Magic the Gathering

[tardy echo]

gg

[twilit canyon]

if they were real? they'd give us pyroclasm on a 2/3

[tardy echo]

Well they’re doing like iconic old power spells

The issue is also just that red doesn’t really have a ton of those

[twilit canyon]

not any that are like

[tardy echo]

Jokulhaups…

[twilit canyon]

balanced enough and/or goated enough

cus bolt on a body will be toxic

i'd love it

[tardy echo]

Wait actually wotc has the opportunity to do something so funny

[twilit canyon]

but they wont do it on a worthwhile body

[tardy echo]

Armageddon on the white on jokulhaups on the red one

[twilit canyon]

they could add meltdown but that card is situational af even if cool

wait

i got it

stone rain

[tardy echo]

Tsunami on the green one

gg we saved magic

Is there a black destroy all lands

[twilit canyon]

so fucking true

uhhh

i think there is?

but black got reanimate

[tardy echo]

There must be if there’s a green one

Desolation angel I guess…

[twilit canyon]

not happening

tho it could be cool to have it cast a creature

[tardy echo]

Grabbing an iconic creatures activated ability would be cool

[twilit canyon]

when prepared, bop

when prepared, firebreathing...

when prepared... uhh

flying, vigilance?

[tardy echo]

Like uh maybe the red one will prepare to pay 0 mana and add mana in any combination of red or blue up to this cards power

you’re welcome

[twilit canyon]

[tardy echo]

While this card is prepared when you cast your second spell create a 1/1 monk creature token with prowess and give it a haste trample and +1/+1 counter

[twilit canyon]

fuck that make it monastery mentor and dont tell anyone it was white

[tardy echo]

I want mentor back in standard

Or who’s that one

[twilit canyon]

it is in standard

[tardy echo]

That adds mentors when you play spells

No way

You’re a liar

[twilit canyon]

[[monastery mentor]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/tdc/125/monastery-mentor

Monastery Mentor <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Creature — Human Monk
Prowess (Whenever you cast a noncreature spell, this creature gets +1/+1 until end of turn.)
Whenever you cast a noncreature spell, create a 1/1 white Monk creature token with prowess.
"Speak little. Do much."
2/2

[twilit canyon]

i did

fuc

when did we get rid of

[tardy echo]

Ok you’re actually a liar gg

[twilit canyon]

oh if ucking hate commander

[tardy echo]

Did they patch this out of foundations or something

[twilit canyon]

i remember it got reprinted in tarkir dragonstorm... commander

[tardy echo]

Wait this was a mom card holy

[twilit canyon]

nah it was in march of the machines fr

[subtle sierra]

Yeah when cosmogrand came out

[twilit canyon]

but we need to actually kill commander

[tardy echo]

Why did mom randomly have old goat cards

[twilit canyon]

it was kinda based

[tardy echo]

Fauna shaman monastery mentor

And none of them saw play

[twilit canyon]

mentor is too format contextual to see play

ie: its legal in pioneer and modern for ages now

but

legal in legacy rn and its... eh

still restricted in vintage and i would never want it at more than what it is

huh speaking of... i should brew something for timeless

we are about to get fow

so we are entering the 2nd new golden age of timeless

fr this time

[tardy echo]

Tbf vintage is like a format made for that card

It rewards endless durdling like no other

And PO Is a machine that lets you endlessly durdle like no other

[twilit canyon]

mentor is restricted to make sure your durdling isnt interrupted by offense

card says "what if we ended the game in 2 turns" and vintage players collectively said "no i dont want that"

[sudden lava]

Displacer Kitten casting ancestral recall over and over

[trail anvil]

yeah that'll go hard

https://b.thumbs.redditmedia.com/iFaN7kgEW7Y9WX4M9UDaQfzNewMrr2EqFH_pQPZzQQY.png

I love r/magictcg's banner today

[subtle sierra]

I do not get it at all besides the nadu in the corner

[sudden lava]

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/Gr5PyDkzBoKzs3k0htGaXhx-tt69Px87AN7pbOZ7WHo/%3F1743206800/https/cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/b/1b8c1345-4279-4e29-b58c-efacccb8e47f.jpg?format=webp&width=549&height=765

Bonus combo card

[glad peak]

You missed the infinite

Oh there it is

[sudden lava]

Storm-Kiln makes it infinite yep

[trail anvil]

chandra was changed to be straight in the war of the spark book iirc, rather than being lesbian with nissa

the left one is the princess bride UB

[sudden lava]

With Artist you just mill the table out

[trail anvil]

the middle art idk, I only see fblthp being chased

[sudden lava]

Or grapeshot

[glad peak]

Yep, there’s potential that you play this package in cedh just because the recall isnt that bad

You don’t run grapeshot here

You just do everything on the stack before the first recall resolves

[sudden lava]

but the memes though (but yeah just mill em to death)

[glad peak]

And then continue to recall them if they try to win on top of the recalls

5 mana is kinda rough though

1 brick for 2 cards that are already played is good enough probably

[trail anvil]

this dude had a lot of draft chaff in the mwm prolly cause they don't play brawl much, but they almost got me

shelly in the draw 2 each turn format is even more scary

[subtle sierra]

Ok so is this worth running in a control deck

It ends up being a wincon and is a wizard for the broken cancel that leaked

And it blocks 1s from poking you

[sudden lava]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HExE_aCaQAAr5w3?format=png&name=small

I'm now realizing, this in Bumbleflower.

[sleek ferry]

It’s good all around, you’ll probably see it most in simic mill though

[subtle sierra]

I was actually thinking it as a wincon for my izzet thing

[past socket]

😔

[subtle sierra]

Also simic mill?

Never seen that

[sleek ferry]

[[glacierwood siege]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/tdm/189/glacierwood-siege

Glacierwood Siege <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manag:292901508654301185><:manau:292901508754702338>

Enchantment
As this enchantment enters, choose Temur or Sultai.
• Temur — Whenever you cast an instant or sorcery spell, target player mills four cards.
• Sultai — You may play lands from your graveyard.
The Sultai approach was silent. The Temur response was deafening.

[subtle sierra]

Oh yeah, but i assume this isn't just simic

Simic has no removal to be control, do they just not care for aggro?

[sleek ferry]

Maybe you play black, but your curve now is pretty damn solid between tidecaller, riverchurn, the siege and kitsune’s technique

[knotty ferry]

What's the broken cancel that leaked

[sleek ferry]

I’m assuming the prismari charm?

I already forgot what the charms do ngl

[subtle sierra]

No

It's literally just cancel, but if you control a wizard you gain colorless mana equal to the countered spell cmc during your next start of main

Which is why tidecaller being a wizard is nuts to me

[sleek ferry]

Oh it’s just mana drain

[glad peak]

It’s much much worse manadrain

[subtle sierra]

I mean it is but for a cancel that is in standard it's great imo

I think it's an acceptable alternative to three steps if you have wizards

[trail anvil]

I feel like you want to be playing wizards as a focus if you're running this no?

unless you want to resort to something like changeling stuff

[subtle sierra]

The idea is that most of the time three steps is only a cancel anyway

So it having this upside only happening sometimes is fine

But if you happen to open a wizard your opponent had to think very carefully if they wanna remove the wizard first before committing

Cause if you have a wizard on the play, and they drop a stock up on you you're dropping a jeskai revelation on them on turn 4

They have to remove it otherwise the tempo swing is fucked

Which is a tempo swing in itself

[atomic harness]

what happens to battle creatures when they die?

[[lazotep convert]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/mom/231/invasion-of-amonkhet-lazotep-convert

Invasion of Amonkhet <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338><:manab:292901508872273920>

Battle — Siege
(As a Siege enters, choose an opponent to protect it. You and others can attack it. When it's defeated, exile it, then cast it transformed.)
When this Siege enters, each player mills three cards, then each opponent discards a card and you draw a card. (To mill three cards, a player puts the top three cards of their library into their graveyard.)
Defense: 4

Lazotep Convert
Creature — Zombie
You may have this creature enter as a copy of any creature card in a graveyard, except it's a 4/4 black Zombie in addition to its other colors and types.
As the lazotep covered his body, he heard Norn's voice fade from a deafening clarion to a distant whisper.
4/4

[atomic harness]

does the battle side hit the gy or the transformed creature

@gilded glade

[gilded glade]

it dies as a creature, MTG checks "last known information" on dies triggers, and last known was it being a creature

[atomic harness]

tyy

[subtle sierra]

Idt this was posted

This is incredibly good

[trail anvil]

you intend to use it like an untapped dual I'm guessing + finisher later?

[subtle sierra]

Well i certainly do

3+ color decks usually lack manlands

So if you're control and most of your stuff is sorcs and instants anyway

This is just a free painland that is also a manland

That is somewhat nuts

[fallow citrus]

woah that's really good

me when my control deck can fix mana perfectly

[golden plover]

Holy shit

That's nuts

[subtle sierra]

Yeah

[golden plover]

Rip Soulstone Sanctuary

I guess Soulstone's vigilance does in fact matter, but this feels straight up better

[subtle sierra]

Wait fuck it stays a creature

It keeps getting better

That is fucking insane

Remember how i said this was the best set ever?

[golden plover]

Yeah it's like Soulstone

It doesn't turn back

But Soulstone isn't also mana fixing

[subtle sierra]

I also have 3 April fools ones

[copper pecan]

you can't fool me, i know that "sent to a graveyard" isn't proper mtg templating

it should be "put into a graveyard"

[fallow citrus]

I know mtg cards get more and more pushed but you lost me at that ward cost

[atomic harness]

[[valgavoth, terror eater]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/dsk/120/valgavoth-terror-eater

Valgavoth, Terror Eater <:mana6:292901508780130304><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Creature — Elder Demon
Flying, lifelink
Ward—Sacrifice three nonland permanents.
If a card you didn't control would be put into an opponent's graveyard from anywhere, exile it instead.
During your turn, you may play cards exiled with Valgavoth. If you cast a spell this way, pay life equal to its mana value rather than pay its mana cost.
9/9

[subtle sierra]

Valgavoth is 9 mana renny

Regardless that you never pay it

Lili is 3

It's a 3 mana 3/3 with ward that needs a creature and makes you go 3 for 1

That is beyond nuts

[tardy echo]

Legendary creature with no name sigh

[atomic harness]

Yugioh ahh card

how does bracket 1 tivit even work sphinx turbo?

[tardy echo]

Also

I didn’t see these posted so

Dry cards

[subtle sierra]

I like deduce

[tardy echo]

If only it was a better card

[knotty ferry]

Am I stupid, how do you attack with [[restless reef]]? Give it haste or something?

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/lci/282/restless-reef

Restless Reef

Land
This land enters tapped.
: Add or .
: Until end of turn, this land becomes a 4/4 blue and black Shark creature with deathtouch. It's still a land.
Whenever this land attacks, target player mills four cards.

[subtle sierra]

It's a creature

If you pay 4

[tardy echo]

When something becomes a creature it doesn’t get summoning sickness

[knotty ferry]

Yeah but

Ohhhh

Wtf

[tardy echo]

Unless it’s only been on the field that turn

[knotty ferry]

TIL

[subtle sierra]

It does

[knotty ferry]

.

[tardy echo]

So if I play a land and then earthbend it it will have summoning sickness

[subtle sierra]

Yes

[tardy echo]

But if I earthbend a lend from 2 turns ago it won’t

[subtle sierra]

That's why it gives haste

Lol

[knotty ferry]

Ok so I can't attack with this

[tardy echo]

Silence

[subtle sierra]

You can

[knotty ferry]

Without haste

[subtle sierra]

It didn't enter

It just became

Changing types doesn't make it a new card

It isn't ygo

[tardy echo]

If you manage to untap reef the turn it enters and animate it will need haste

In no other circumstance will it need haste

[subtle sierra]

^

[knotty ferry]

Ok so just to clarify, on my turn, if I use its ability to turn into a creature (and have not tapped it for mana, I assume this is key), I can attack with it

Correct?

[subtle sierra]

Yes

[knotty ferry]

Ok

[subtle sierra]

If it's not the turn it entered

[knotty ferry]

But if I tap it I can't because it enters tapped

Tap it for mana I mean

[tardy echo]

Correct

[knotty ferry]

Sick

[subtle sierra]

Well doesn't enter tapped, but it is tapped

Slight semantics

[knotty ferry]

I've only played a couple games with it but I get the utility as a blocker

And I guess it can force damage sometimes

[subtle sierra]

And it can mill a wincon if you're lucky

Manlands are good

[knotty ferry]

Also added [[fountainport]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/blb/253/fountainport

Fountainport

Land
: Add .
, , Sacrifice a token: Draw a card.
, , Pay 1 life: Create a 1/1 blue Fish creature token.
, : Create a Treasure token.

[knotty ferry]

But I still haven't used it for anything good lol

[tardy echo]

Having lands that do damage is just always good

[knotty ferry]

Just mana

[tardy echo]

When your mana base also simultaneously gives you a mana dump

[knotty ferry]

But I can see the utility in some gamestates

[subtle sierra]

Spat i will blow your mind

That's why they're called utility lands

But yeah

What cake said

Having the land being both your mana and the mana dump is good

[tardy echo]

It makes the card anti screw and anti flood

That’s also why anchorage is so good because it actively digs through your deck if you’re flooded

[knotty ferry]

Wtf is anti scree

W

[[anchorage]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/lci/280/restless-anchorage

Restless Anchorage

Land
This land enters tapped.
: Add or .
: Until end of turn, this land becomes a 2/3 white and blue Bird creature with flying. It's still a land.
Whenever this land attacks, create a Map token.

[knotty ferry]

Oh I fucking hate this card lol

I played vs it once and it was aids

But that was 2 weeks ago

[subtle sierra]

Mana screw - too little lands
Mana flood - too many lands

[tardy echo]

Was the card annoying you or the deck

[knotty ferry]

I legit couldn't win cause this kept blocking my shit lmao

[tardy echo]

But generally all of the non-red man lands see pretty consistent play in different decks

Red doesn’t need it because it’s all aggro lol

[knotty ferry]

[[soulstone something]]

[lost widget]

No card found for “soulstone something”

[knotty ferry]

Bro what's it called

Lemme find

I saw one that I haven't added yet

[tardy echo]

I guess the selesnya one doesn’t get played either

[[soulstone sanctuary]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/fdn/133/soulstone-sanctuary

Soulstone Sanctuary

Land
: Add .
: This land becomes a 3/3 creature with vigilance and all creature types. It's still a land.
By tradition, travelers touched the pillar for good luck. One day, it decided to travel as well.

[tardy echo]

V good card

[knotty ferry]

Wait

So if I summon it

[subtle sierra]

It does

[knotty ferry]

I can still tap it for mana right

It's still a land

[subtle sierra]

Yes

[knotty ferry]

Ok cool

Oh that's kinda cool for this one too

[tardy echo]

Where

I’ve seen spire more than prairie

[subtle sierra]

Idk maybe

But like if you can fit one you play it

[knotty ferry]

Cause you can summon it, attack, it has vigilance and summons permanently so on ur opp turn you can tap it for mana or keep it as a blocker

Holy

[subtle sierra]

Unless you're turbo aggro

[knotty ferry]

Yeah I gotta add this card

[tardy echo]

Vents is the only one that I actually haven’t seen joely moly

[tardy echo]

What selesnya colors aren’t turbo aggro

[golden plover]

Prairie sees some play in the Selsenya gear hulk decl

[subtle sierra]

Yeah

[tardy echo]

On gibbity??

[subtle sierra]

It's played in cage

[golden plover]

Vents is a 1-2 of in Rakdos Monument

[tardy echo]

Cage is a fake deck

[golden plover]

Spire is probably the least played

[tardy echo]

Well yeah

[golden plover]

Wait how could I forget Ridgeline

[knotty ferry]

Tbh I think I make so many mistakes with land placing, sometimes I place my lands in the wrong order bc I'm not thinking carefully about what I can use on which turn

[golden plover]

No one plays fucking Restless Ridgelit

[knotty ferry]

So I gotta pay attention

[tardy echo]

Ridgeline saw a lot of play 2 years ago

In Yuna

For the 2 weeks she was good

[golden plover]

Vinestalk and Cottage both see some play in their flavors of Cub deck

And Cottage was real good before that

Fortress saw decent play in the past in Esper Bounce and is still decent

[tardy echo]

Bivouac is also a fake card

[golden plover]

Hey when Boros aggro is playable, Bivouac isnt bad

[tardy echo]

Still isn’t very good

That’s like saying spire wasn’t bad when everybody was playing the izzet looting deck

In general all of them are good cards the issue is moreso finding decks for them

[sleek ferry]

Spire was always bad though

Bouvac had some realistic fringe cases

Can anybody think of some green birds

Not named birds of paradise

[tardy echo]

All the green chocobos

And my goat gilded goose

[sleek ferry]

oh gilded goose is a good one

[tardy echo]

There’s also a zodiac bird I think

[glad peak]

Really 💀

[stark skiff]

[golden plover]

What are we doing man

[stark skiff]

Its over the game is ruined boys

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/252175743512084480/1488936170732650516/RDT_20260401_1220399057186603695492241.jpg?ex=69ce975e&is=69cd45de&hm=542e29a103b59022cf7a203d5cd85e71b53d735b0b53899b9fe7f2c054d43fe5&=&format=webp

End someones career at the cost of your junk

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/252175743512084480/1488936821135114394/IMG_1322.jpg?ex=69ce97f9&is=69cd4679&hm=ed400fdb106ddd3cebfbd8412794080a29ab2f479d0ff3945973931199ba98b7&=&format=webp&width=464&height=648

Pest Ophiomancer

[tardy echo]

Wait is this real

They actually did channel I’m so fucking smart

It would’ve been cool if standard legal sigh

[golden plover]

On the bright side, by the time you've got a 7 power creature you PROBABLY don't need channel

[tardy echo]

Yeah I think that’s the idea

Esp in edh

[golden plover]

Fuck I need him

[tardy echo]

Holy Poggers

@atomic harness

[glad peak]

I need him but I’m not going to waste my time on standard championships

[atomic harness]

HOLY

[twilit canyon]

top tier

[glad peak]

Top 8 prizing for standard championships, very expensive to enter even if it’s soft

[stark skiff]

Warp in Bygone Colossus ez

[tardy echo]

now every opponent has a turn to kill the channel

gg

[stark skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/moe-money-problems-noproblems-sissy-gif-7455837

[tardy echo]

That’s the other thing

But also u can force prepare it with other cards

[glad peak]

I’m gonna just buy it off people for less than half the price it is to enter

[tardy echo]

So I guess for like 5 mana 2 cards u can go looney tunes

[stark skiff]

this just reminded me to buy ocelot pride. the frog art is nice too will need to get it

[tardy echo]

What’s the funniest thing u can channel pay 39 for in commander btw

[tardy echo]

Holy

[golden plover]

This guy is cool as fuck but I don't like the way he looks

[tardy echo]

Wait I have a vision

[glad peak]

Exsanguinate, always

[golden plover]

Why is he made of bubblegum and gross

[tardy echo]

The white prepare spell will be shaharazad @twilit canyon

[tardy echo]

Oh hey another card for ashling

[glad peak]

Theyre really trying to push us to play the outdated version of reanimator aren’t they

[glad peak]

Has anyone found more April fools ones?

Believable ones like the liliana

[tardy echo]

“Believable”

[glad peak]

It at least looks like a card with real art unlike the lotus one

[tardy echo]

Wait so are the April fools cards like sleeper cells made by wotc or something

[glad peak]

The Deadpool ones are

[tardy echo]

Why couldn’t it have been in the standard set

[glad peak]

This is what we ask every spoiler season, welcome to the team

[tardy echo]

Feels weird to be an end step trigger but the prepare isn’t an instant

[tardy echo]

For a card like channel it makes sense but on this feels bad

[golden plover]

Braingeyser on the blue

[tardy echo]

BRAINGEYSER

That spell is also sick

If only it was standard

[golden plover]

They split the twins but didn't give them partner?

That feels wrong

[twilit canyon]

god willing

[tardy echo]

Is shaharazad the only card not playable in any format at all

I guess conspiracies are also banned in every sanctioned format

[sleek ferry]

do I dare look to see how much the preorder for the commander precons has gone up

[twilit canyon]

chaos orb is also banned everywhere iirc

[fallow citrus]

Adrix art is going to have the other half of that magic circle on I bet

[sleek ferry]

this is cool

[fallow citrus]

based and hydrapilled

[tardy echo]

True all the looney tunes cards

Ante and falling star and chaos orb

[stark skiff]

https://www.gamespot.com/gallery/heres-an-exclusive-look-at-mtg-secrets-of-strixhavens-witherbloom-pestilence-commander-precon/2900-7627/

for it all in one place

[tardy echo]

But shaharazad is the only one banned for power level technically

[twilit canyon]

mannnnnn i just realized this is commander

ik ophiomancer is kinda goated but like fuck

[glad peak]

Shaharazad isnt banned for power

It’s banned because it’s a looney toon card like chaos orb and falling star

[golden plover]

Why the fuck are you a commander card

Would've been so cool in the main set

[twilit canyon]

would it kill them to preview commander later

after the main set

[tardy echo]

It’s banned for a lack of power

[twilit canyon]

im gonna go personally give gavin a wedgie

[tardy echo]

Does shaharazad even like do anything

[golden plover]

It's literally in the middle of main set reveals this time for some reason

[tardy echo]

[[shaharazad]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/arn/10/shahrazad

Shahrazad <:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Sorcery
Players play a Magic subgame, using their libraries as their decks. Each player who doesn't win the subgame loses half their life, rounded up.

[tardy echo]

Ok lose half their life

I legit thought it just made you do that

[golden plover]

Like come on, I don't wanna have to pause every time a card is cool to make sure it's standard legal

[sleek ferry]

am I bugging, aren't commander reveals usually after the debut video?

pretty sure tarkir was like this as well

[twilit canyon]

its always in the middle of the set reveal

[sleek ferry]

and aetherdrift

[golden plover]

I should just start assuming that anything remotely cool is commander by default

[twilit canyon]

its why i thought mentor was in standard cus i saw it in tarkir dragonstorm previews... but it was tkd commander

we should do the moral thing and stop making edh stuff

[sleek ferry]

I do feel like the commander exclusive prepare cards should have been more commander focused, like dark consultation/tainted pact on the black prepare card

[tardy echo]

Have we seen the black prepare card for commander

[glad peak]

Because people would complain about it being there even though thoracle is nowhere in sight

[tardy echo]

The reanimate is standard legal

[stark skiff]

https://www.ign.com/articles/magic-the-gathering-secrets-of-strixhaven-prismari-deck

[tardy echo]

Also isn’t ancestral recall standard legal

[twilit canyon]

underworld freeze
underworld breach, enters prepared. spell: brain freeze

[tardy echo]

I’m so confused by whether they’re making an actual cycle out of this or not

[golden plover]

The blue should be Thoracle with a prepared tainted pact lol

[twilit canyon]

abandon hope

if u wanted to be interesting...

thoracle with plunge into darkness

[golden plover]

Oh can we also get a new Elsha that comes with a prepared sensei's divining top

She can travel in an omenpath to teach at Strixhaven

[tardy echo]

Also when are we gonna get the mono blue commander who’s prepare spell is 5 colors for no reason

[golden plover]

It'll be Mono-White you fool

[sleek ferry]

they are, the standard ones are the most iconic spells from each color, the commander ones are less iconic cards in their color

[twilit canyon]

friday reveal

trust

[tardy echo]

Seeing

[twilit canyon]

u know this does make me wish we'd get an elder dragon and their respective charm and/or for bolas, cruel ultimatum

[tardy echo]

The wording made me think it was slightly more specific

[sleek ferry]

Once we reveal the lightning bolt mono red prepare card in the main set, it's over for you noob midrange/control players

[twilit canyon]

its gonna be 5 mana

[tardy echo]

I think red prepare gamba would be cool

Unironically

[twilit canyon]

prepares when you spend like 20 mana

[tardy echo]

This would be a great set for expend to have come back

[sleek ferry]

I think the prepare cost is just going to be hard tbh, I don't expect it to be more than 3 mana, and high key expect it to be 2

[twilit canyon]

nah no way its at 2 without it being a dogshit body

[subtle sierra]

Colorless

[tardy echo]

Also what’s the green one gonna be

If not channel

Natural order??

No fucking shot they make it regrowth/reclamation

[twilit canyon]

giant growth

[tardy echo]

That would be so fucking lame

[golden plover]

Wait where's my prediction

[sleek ferry]

yeah that's what I mean, 2-3 mana 1/1, When this creature deals combat damage, Prepare it, or some dog shit like that

[golden plover]

Red: 2 mana 2/1 with haste, bolt is prepared on etb and whenever it deals combat damage
White: 2 mana 1/1 with lifelink and the ajani's pride mate effect. Prepares salve on etb and each upkeep (each time you gain life if they wanna push it)
Black: 3 mana 2/3 or something with deathtouch. Prepares dark ritual on etb and you can sacc a creature to prepare it. Opt
Green: 4 mana 5/5 trample. Prepares giants growth on etb and either landfall or whenever you play a creature

[tardy echo]

We already have reanimate for black no

[golden plover]

That was rare

[tardy echo]

Also I think white will be swords

[golden plover]

Not mythic

[tardy echo]

Or path maybe

[golden plover]

The cycle is mythic rarity

[twilit canyon]

red will wheel

[sleek ferry]

you think we're getting both a rare cycle and a mythic cycle? I think that's wishful thinking tbh

[golden plover]

Didn't Maro not outright say it's a mythic cycle

[sleek ferry]

did he?

[twilit canyon]

we should

[golden plover]

I can't imagine they'd do half a cycle at rare and half at mythic

Whit can be balance if they're cool with it

[twilit canyon]

also prepared matters this set

i dont see a world where we dont get rares and mythics with prepared

even if we dont get all of them being iconic spells

[tardy echo]

I still don’t think so

[golden plover]

Red is 100% gonna be bolt

[twilit canyon]

its gonna shock

[golden plover]

Nah they could put bolt on it with some dumbass condition

[twilit canyon]

doesnt enter prepared

[tardy echo]

It would be so funny but idt they’d print anything that feelsbad in the year of our lord

[twilit canyon]

only prepares after spending 2 mana + dealing combat damage in a turn

wym

thy print cards still in 2026

[sudden lava]

I like this, now I gotta check what reprints were in my potential add pile and put them back into my bulk

[golden plover]

Was cauldron familiar too much to ask?

[twilit canyon]

case in point wait this is kinda cool

[tardy echo]

the issue with white is all their iconic cards are like the saltiest shit ever

[golden plover]

I don't even need it to be full familiar. I just wanted it to be etb damage

[twilit canyon]

why do u need the familiar

[glad peak]

“Just gitgud scrub”
-old school white player

[glad peak]

I like how white went from the most based color to the most basic

[golden plover]

Ygra is in standard

[tardy echo]

Oh this one is standard

Truly the most annoying way to do these reveals

[twilit canyon]

im saying!

[golden plover]

It's bad so it's a standard card

Just gotta remember that today

[twilit canyon]

the sooner we can excommunicate commander the better

[stark skiff]

wow this garbage

[glad peak]

Commander doesn’t deserve to be supported

[twilit canyon]

wotc is telling me this couldnt have been in the main set??

[sudden lava]

ok so only one in my possible add pile.
Now to watch the other reveals

[stark skiff]

If you want it all in one place again here you go:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3yAlH27sl4

[sleek ferry]

It would have likely not seen play, why would they put it in if that’s the case

[golden plover]

This couldn't be in the main set???

[sleek ferry]

Oh I like that class actually

[golden plover]

Dammit this would've been the perfect place to do a cycle of classes actually

[stark skiff]

yea its pretty flexible

[sleek ferry]

Damn I like this too

[glad peak]

There’s enough cards designed for commander in every main set that unplayable but interesting standard cards could’ve come into the main set

[stark skiff]

yea this Orzhov deck is fire. I wanted to make Eriette and this is basically meant to be it lol

[sudden lava]

yeah reading the article ones first, the video reveals are cooler

[sleek ferry]

Good thing standard has an infinite number of interesting cards right now lol

[stark skiff]

HOLY

[golden plover]

Yo it's me

Why the fuck is he a commander card

[glad peak]

We could have more but we need more boring commander cards in the main set

[sleek ferry]

And if commander didn’t exist, this game would be in just as bad of shape as Yugioh pre Overframes

[glad peak]

There goes wheel

[sudden lava]

ok yeah glad I went prismari over witherbloom

[twilit canyon]

nah not at all

[sleek ferry]

I know hating on edh has become the “cool and hip” thing to do, but they’re literally the players keeping the lights on at WotC

100% lol

[glad peak]

Since when was hating on edh the cool thing to do

[golden plover]

So it will be bolt

[stark skiff]

on the internet since always

[sudden lava]

ooh

[sleek ferry]

They’ve even evolved to hating on Cedh now

[golden plover]

It's braingeyser

[glad peak]

That’s channel, we got that already

[golden plover]

We already saw it

Oh wait was it channel?

[glad peak]

Oh wait braingeyser?

I can’t remember what card goes where

[golden plover]

Same

[stark skiff]

cedh has always been fun to hate on tho

[sleek ferry]

The black class is kinda boring

[glad peak]

It’s always been edh players hating cedh and cedh not caring

[golden plover]

I think quandrix got geyser because X spells?

[golden plover]

But it might have been Prismari got geyser because big spells?

[sudden lava]

Mudkip Im reading the article

[golden plover]

In conclusion who give a fuck

[stark skiff]

honestly the Boros deck looks weak af

[golden plover]

Both were bad commander cards

[glad peak]

Edh is cringe, let’s be honest; also correct

[tardy echo]

Is braingeyser banned in commander?

[sudden lava]

Actively ignoring images in the chat

[tardy echo]

Channel is

[golden plover]

Huh supposedly not

[sleek ferry]

The boros one high key has some of the best upgrade potential (yes because we just add breach and sevinne’s reclamation)

[golden plover]

I'm not sure why you'd post something to the chat then if you're ignoring it?

[twilit canyon]

average summer behavior

[tardy echo]

Ok so why do you then impose that on everyone else

[golden plover]

I'm actually so mad this fucking dog can't be in the main set

He'd have given Orzhov a neat way to interact in current standard

And would've been pretty cool

[twilit canyon]

yeh

unfort ig

[stark skiff]

that dog is sick lol

[golden plover]

Orzhov kinda needs something rn

And the dog would've helped enable Orzhov mid

[stark skiff]

oh Guardian Augmenter is getting a reprint. Needed one.

[sleek ferry]

I would wait and see, we've only had like 10% of the main set actually revealed lol

[golden plover]

Fuck it, just print Sheoldred the Apocalypse into standard lol

[golden plover]

He has the commander set symbol

The dog is fucked

[sleek ferry]

I know, I'm saying wait and see what silverquill gets

they managed to make quandrix more interesting which was far and away the least interesting school during our first visit

surely they can do something for silverquill

[sudden lava]

Oh yeah my friend is gonna really enjoy the quandrix deck

3 read, 2 to go. Lorehold and silverquill

[tardy echo]

The way to make orzhov good again is to print pixie payoffs so good they make you drop blue again

gg

[sudden lava]

wheel of fortune on a stick XD

Moonshaker cavalry reprint insane

[stark skiff]

https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/secrets-of-strixhaven-commander-decklists

All the lists

[tardy echo]

Why on gods green earth is this 5 mana

[golden plover]

What the fuck

That's awful

Should've just grabbed anything at that point

[tardy echo]

White doesn’t get unconditional reanimation

Esp not for any permanent

Bc then this just becomes Omni machine

But it could probably have been 3 mana

And def should’ve been 4

[golden plover]

I think 4 would've been fair at uncommon yeah

[tardy echo]

Also random question how did Omni win the game after they stopped playing invasion I legit forgot

Did they just hit you in the skull with 4 marangs

No combo kill?

[golden plover]

Yeah pretty much

They safely drew the whole deck and sat on 4 marangs

You "had a turn" but they'd have 4 counters in hand

[sleek ferry]

Ben Bateman dropped full deck openings of all commander decks btw @stark skiff

silverquill one has some nice reprints

[tardy echo]

True I guess

I was just wondering if they found some other combo kill

[sleek ferry]

it looks like all the precons reprinted fabled passage too in a new art

which is sick

[tardy echo]

Bc I kinda wanna try playing Jeskai Omni

Or maybe esper

[past socket]

https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/secrets-of-strixhaven-commander-decklists

[lusty trench]

Damn these reprints are crazy

If i didnt have the moonshaker full arts i would be howling for the boros deck

[tardy echo]

Someone just mentioned and I only just realized but wotc will prob use fracture as a way to unkill all the important planeswalkers

Personally I hope we get tamiyo back

[lusty trench]

Storyteller staff
Moonshaker cavalry
Monologue tax
Archeomancer map
Bitterthorn

All in one deck

Mad

[past socket]

[[Staff of the Storyteller]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/soc/111/staff-of-the-storyteller

Staff of the Storyteller <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Artifact
When this artifact enters, create a 1/1 white Spirit creature token with flying.
Whenever you create one or more creature tokens, put a story counter on this artifact.
, , Remove a story counter from this artifact: Draw a card.

[past socket]

Neato

[glad peak]

Yep that’s what’s likely going to happen but I don’t know how to feel about them removing all impact from prior sets

[tardy echo]

Well it would prob still be a quota shift a little bit

As we’ve already seen imported planeswalkers are color shifted

Rakdos tamiyo… possibly a fate worse than death

Mono black Gideon dimir lukka etc

Idk what other planeswalkers died

Orzhov wrenn I guess

Mono blue jaya actual fate worse than death holy

Idk any other dead planeswalkers

And also it means that we could reset zhalfir and Phyrexia!!!!!! The same plot line forever and ever!!!!!!!!!

[twilit canyon]

lmfao

true!!

wait what if they just make the phyrexians the good guys vs idk

the fomorians

[tardy echo]

Holy shit could you imagine

Reality fractured phyrexians were the good guys but all their colors are the same but the fomori are evil

Do the fomori and phyrexians even have anything to do with eachother

What was the civilization that the phyrexians took all their tech

[burnt relic]

yawgmoth of benevolence and kindness

[tardy echo]

Wdym he’s already benevolent and kind he strives to gift us all with perfection

New yawgmoth who makes you stupid and hates pacemakers and iPhones

[twilit canyon]

that was mirrodin

uhh the fomorians have nothing to do with p much anyone even to this day. loot was their only real key in iirc

[tardy echo]

wtf I thought it was a diff one

And then they just got dropped on mirrodin

And that’s when they became 5 colors

Weren’t they hanging out with the myr guys?

[twilit canyon]

the phyrexians? yeah a bit

well more corrupting them but

same deal

[tardy echo]

Are the myr also on mirrodin

If so, poor choice of name

[twilit canyon]

they are

[fallow citrus]

myrodin

😔

[copper pecan]

that was the thran, from dominaria

mirrodin didn't exist until after the first phyrexian arc

[twilit canyon]

oh ig the thran was really the very first that yawg conquered and utilized for phyrexia...

i kinda forget he was a bastard from day 1

truly generational

[copper pecan]

even before phyrexia he was already a eugenecist

[trail anvil]

god I might actually get the quandrix precon

the x theme is great and a ton of these cards look really fun

[past socket]

Also happy for the rsther nice Unbound Flourishing reprint for the X spell enjoyers

[trail anvil]

ditto

[knotty ferry]

i wish mtg arena had text chat

this fuckass blue red otter deck is so aids man

the worst part is it actually looks kinda fun to play

[trail anvil]

this is why it doesn't have text chat

also better get used to that fuckass deck, it's a large chunk of the meta

[tardy echo]

Storm decks are always fun to play

Spellslinging is fun and having 10000 triggers on stack is fun

And swinging for 20 damage all at once is fun

Prowess lets u do all of the above

[knotty ferry]

I could see myself becoming an otter duelist

Sorry, not duelist

Planeswalker

[sleek ferry]

Wizard

[knotty ferry]

The best red blue otter Planeswalker in the midwest

Oh

Wizard?

Wtf

[sleek ferry]

Yeah like your people with the white hoods

[knotty ferry]

????

How are they my people

[trail anvil]

an otter Planeswalker? like ral?

[knotty ferry]

Yes!

Ral, crackhead wit

[sleek ferry]

Ral is really the mvp of the past year, man was an otter and now he’s a teacher

[twilit canyon]

welcome to the izzet guild

[sleek ferry]

Not to mention what he does for ruby storm

[knotty ferry]

Ok hold on, I can't be part of the guild yet

I need more mythic essence

Not essence

Whatever the currency is called

Pesos

[twilit canyon]

fine

get strong

[knotty ferry]

I'm just upgrading my current deck

Tbh I wanna fuck around with my creature lineup

Deep cavern bats is so hit or miss

Sometimes it's the best card ever other times 2 mana is so much

[twilit canyon]

yeah thats the issue with 2 mana discard

unfort they dont really print good 1 mana discard outside of duress but thats a sb card

[tardy echo]

Did he even die btw

Or did they just pick him to get color shifted because he’s hot

[sleek ferry]

?????

[trail anvil]

the latter

[tardy echo]

Ok

[twilit canyon]

the latter

[tardy echo]

I’m glad to know there are now 2 incredibly hot planeswalkers alive in the universe

[trail anvil]

jace is totally fucking up reality so he can bring gideon back to life

he used to sit in the cuck chair

[tardy echo]

Sigh

[sleek ferry]

Gideon was before my time, but he looks/sounds like the most vanilla character ever

[trail anvil]

tbh so is jace

[tardy echo]

He was pretty boring as a person

The card was fun to use

[twilit canyon]

there was really not much to him

[tardy echo]

And he was easy on the eyes

[twilit canyon]

kaito eats his planeswalker becomes a creature design space

[trail anvil]

man though

when are we getting gay ajani

[twilit canyon]

not nearly as much as gideon

wym ajani has always been gay

[tardy echo]

I think there’s still a way to define a cool diff between gideon being a creature tied to loyalty ability vs kaitos just being a passive thing

But as a general concept yeah

[trail anvil]

we need it canon

[past socket]

I just understand it is possible imperative that the planeswalker remains intact probably

[atomic harness]

prepared Shaharazad sounds amazing @tardy echo

[tardy echo]

Holy you’re just Satan

[atomic harness]

Buddy you were the one advocating for it

@twilit canyon please give Gavin a super wedgie

[stark skiff]

It’s honestly the one I’m probably gonna get the others look so boring

[trail anvil]

wtf the quandrix one looks boring to you? dang

[stark skiff]

Just realized the new lands count all the opponents at the table. These might actually be sick for commander

[stark skiff]

I’m here to magic not to do math

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-alert-bumper-adam-devine-pitch-perfect-lame-gif-17474980

[trail anvil]

suit yourself, more big bunguses for me

[stark skiff]

Idk +1 counters just bores me. Seems every precon cycle does it nowadays.

[sleek ferry]

Wdym the lorehold one is easily the best one

[stark skiff]

only precon without its dragon. its ashamed of it

i will say it at least gives boros something else to do and Quintorious is a chad. I may get it to mess around with.

[past socket]

Hydras are hella cool

[zinc shard]

An MTG Player calling another MTG Player a nerd

[glad peak]

ok nerd

[stark skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/television-comic-con-convention-deadpool-slap-fight-gif-14859259

[glad peak]

I finished the marchesa anti farm farm deck and I’m sad to announce I have to remove the uncounterable kozilek reshuffle plan

I’ve brain freezed myself on a combo turn dumping kozilek one too many times

Makes space for the recall infinite though, I already run kitten and ska

[trail anvil]

I got lorehold which surprised me

[glad peak]

I got punished for being an analyst irl

I got put into the cringe college

[stark skiff]

Which one is this one

[stark skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-homer-simpson-bully-yell-shout-gif-3872960

[glad peak]

yes

Quandrix

[past socket]

Maths nerds

[past socket]

Also kind of wanna try the quiz dealie

[glad peak]

it's pretty easy to game ngl

7 questions and each answer is just "what college do you want to enter" in different words

[zinc shard]

wouldnt recommend it, you have to enter your e-mail and sign up for promotional e-mails

[subtle sierra]

not a surprise

[atomic harness]

Finally
@glad peak https://youtube.com/shorts/KD8c6n9H55M?si=oMi5D78RbNiL0w3-

[stark skiff]

Triumph of the Horde

[sleek ferry]

Sick art

[golden plover]

Uncommon to mythic because $20 btw

I guess it'd be a bomb in limited but so will most of the bonus sheet. Crazy fucking upshift

Wait no I lied this card sucks ass in limited

[[Overrun]] was uncommon in foundations

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/fdn/230/overrun

Overrun <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manag:292901508654301185><:manag:292901508654301185><:manag:292901508654301185>

Sorcery
Creatures you control get +3/+3 and gain trample until end of turn. (Each of those creatures can deal excess combat damage to the player or planeswalker it's attacking.)
Nature doesn't walk.

[lusty trench]

Battle royal reprint poggies

[golden plover]

So turns out there's actually a system for the rarity and this specifically breaks it: If it's standard legal, it's printed at its normal rarity. If it's not standard legal and common/uncommon/rare it's rare. If it's not standard legal and mythic, it's mythic

[sleek ferry]

Please tell me this is real and not bait https://x.com/saffronolive/status/2039652028561891710?s=46&t=DdUsqNPs-c3IFDRYOhiq8A

Saffron Olive (@SaffronOlive)

Standard Ponza incomin!

X · Apr 2, 2026, 10:31 AM

[subtle sierra]

set code checks out

i'd say yes

[sleek ferry]

We are so back

[subtle sierra]

not only checks out but it's in the checklist i have

https://www.mtgpics.com/card?ref=sos122

[stark skiff]

How do I reprepare

[subtle sierra]

other cards

there's an artifact and a land that do that

[glad peak]

Vibrance has grown on me a bit, I can cut the current win con and I lose points in the “winning over the top” category but one more tutor

Also chatterstorm is new tech, dunno how good it is

Rest is stock

this town is just bad bad

[atomic harness]

Yeah

i dont like it

[glad peak]

Apple of Eden is a meta choice btw, if your meta is all midrange decks then you use it to take the rhystic player’s interaction

[atomic harness]

Not bad

[glad peak]

4 mana sorcery speed though

[tardy echo]

We get more reveals today right

[atomic harness]

Is bender's water skin anything for kinnan, little mudkip?

https://tenor.com/view/futurama-bender-dance-gif-5319769

[tardy echo]

Also idk if anyone posted from yday but

City of brass manland

Tap for colorless pay 1 life for any color only for sorceries/instants 5 mana to become a 2/4 wizard that gets +1/0 whenever u cast a spell

[atomic harness]

Yeah that one is pretty good cake

Yummy Dark Rabbit said so...

[subtle sierra]

I did

[tardy echo]

I didn’t see it so it’s not there

[subtle sierra]

Landmine!

[tardy echo]

[sleek ferry]

Get pinged idiot!

Sigh, the landmine bot will be missed

[glad peak]

Uhhh you sure can try it

I wouldn’t

[atomic harness]

I'mma work on rog thras

Chatterstorm

[glad peak]

I swapped to marchesa

24-26 interaction spells in a deck that rewards me for interacting and can turbo is pretty pretty good

[knotty ferry]

I'm buying stuff for my deck and every time I see a borderless art I wanna buy it

Holy fuckkk

Hooooly

[sleek ferry]

That’s a usable sideboard card

[knotty ferry]

Yeah I put it in my card

Cart

[sudden lava]

gryson card

[[gryson]]

[lost widget]

No card found for “gryson”

[subtle sierra]

[sudden lava]

[[ghyrson]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/40k/124/ghyrson-starn-kelermorph

Ghyrson Starn, Kelermorph <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338><:manar:292901508796645397>

Legendary Creature — Tyranid Human
Ward (Whenever this creature becomes the target of a spell or ability an opponent controls, counter it unless that player pays .)
Three Autostubs — Whenever another source you control deals exactly 1 damage to a permanent or player, Ghyrson Starn deals 2 damage to that permanent or player.
3/2

[sudden lava]

https://tenor.com/view/started-blasting-gun-eyeglasses-so-anyway-i-started-blasting-gif-16955226

[glad peak]

as much as i would like to play ghyrson curiosity control, he takes so much to do anything that he just isn't good

even vivi is borderline

[trail anvil]

holy

[subtle sierra]

[trail anvil]

and then something to pump the mana into

draw 2 discard 1 on a 2 mana instant is already a decent rate, the fact that this can go face too

[golden plover]

This feels like it'll be problematic down the line

T2 Ashling into t3 that into... Something? Jeskai Rev?

[tardy echo]

They saved the cool cards for today I see how it is

Also all the prismari stuff for some reason

[fallow citrus]

izzet looting

goes hard

[golden plover]

Wait that's 7 or more???

I read that as 7 like Library

https://moxfield.com/decks/hZXvEKf1B06_IPYGoUVU5Q

So this is a real core idea yeah?

Basically the standard Jeskai mid stuff but swap Shiko for the ability to play Jeskai Revelation on 4

[glad peak]

I would probably try it over scute swarm

Scute’s pretty sus but makes tokens for cradle, chatter does similar but has a more impressive first turn

[sudden lava]

WOW
Just WOW

[fallow citrus]

this seems like unplayable for 5 mana

actually not seems it just is

[copper pecan]

it's probably good in limited

[trail anvil]

I was gonna say is this not a nice limited card? so much modality

[fallow citrus]

was this posted

[subtle sierra]

leaked like a week ago

[golden plover]

Hilarious card, awful card

[subtle sierra]

idt anyone posted steal the show tho

can't see these posted either

[trail anvil]

nice you can force your opponent to trade their hand

[subtle sierra]

uh

no

isn't any number also 0

[trail anvil]

oh any number

dream dead

[glad peak]

So… I think I found a gifts line for marchesa but it’s bad bad

Emiritus, lively dirge, kitten/ska, underworld breach

If I had that much mana I should be winning regardless but the emiritus kitten ska combo is so resilient when the first ancestral gets put on the stack in an interaction heavy deck

[tardy echo]

Ska?

[glad peak]

Storm kiln artist

[tardy echo]

Ahh

[glad peak]

Since you can force people to draw their deck while holding prio the entire time and draw most of your deck before the first recall ever resolves

So the stack will look like:
recall x10000 targeting opponents
Recall x20 target me
Ska trigger
Kitten trigger target emiritus

And when they try to interact in the middle of being recall looped I just loop recall on top of their attempts

Deck no longer needs defense grid or squelcher, can pivot to reanimator, and any interaction can be used exclusively to keep the table alive

[knotty ferry]

https://x.com/IsabellaRobinX/status/2039755572690530315?s=20

Isabella🇵🇷 (@IsabellaRobinX)

nice argument. however, i have already portrayed myself as a mighty elder dragon and you as the frightened first-year student.

X · Apr 2, 2026, 5:23 PM

[tardy echo]

I think we’re overdue for another narset that makes everyone hate standard again @twilit canyon

[twilit canyon]

mono-white narset that rule of laws static

[tardy echo]

Well I was thinking like what’s the complete opposite of what narset does

[glad peak]

With an activated ability that phases out all permanents for the turn

[tardy echo]

Reality fractured narset is gonna be a sultai planeswalker that lets you natural order and the floodgate is gonna be leyline of the void

[glad peak]

So you can start with her on the field if in your opening hand?

[tardy echo]

Glad you understand

[twilit canyon]

lock her loyalty abilities to turn 3

[glad peak]

Reality fractured teferi be like “let’s just worldfire”

[twilit canyon]

reality fractured jaya be like "we must be calm, like water"

[tardy echo]

It was crazy how they did this one single time

And then never again

[tardy echo]

Reality fractured narset makes you pay mana costs

[fallow citrus]

reality fractured ashiok makes it so you have to search your library

[twilit canyon]

you must search

if you fail to find ashiok ults for free

[tardy echo]

I’m shocked btw that ashiok never had a praetors grasp

[twilit canyon]

ashiok's erasure should have praetor's grasped

but they balanced that card for some reason

same set as breach uro and thoracle

[tardy echo]

[[ashioks erasure]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/thb/43/ashioks-erasure

Ashiok's Erasure <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338>

Enchantment
Flash
When this enchantment enters, exile target spell.
Your opponents can't cast spells with the same name as the exiled card.
When this enchantment leaves the battlefield, return the exiled card to its owner's hand.

[tardy echo]

Nah I think this card is salty enough as is

If it was 2ub then sure but mono blue doesn’t really steal spells

[twilit canyon]

i mean true but they could have

[tardy echo]

Why make tbd an even more hateful set than it already was

Lab designed most rage inducing set ever created possibly only behind war of the spark

[twilit canyon]

hmmm that may be throne tbh

unless u mean in terms of baffling balance and lack thereof

[tardy echo]

Throne was broken but the cards weren’t really salt inducing idk

I mean strictly on feelsbad basis

[twilit canyon]

hmmm

[tardy echo]

War of the spark was just 6 trillion stax planeswalkers

[twilit canyon]

i actually do think throne goes ahead here too just cus the adventure removal dorks feel fucking ass at the time

[knotty ferry]

I just spent a morbillion dollars on tcgplayer dot com, I hope my locals is ready to get their shit pushed in by the dimir midrange GOD

[twilit canyon]

you get curved by a stomp into a 4/3 that is also gonna hurt you to kill

[tardy echo]

Idk

[twilit canyon]

aggro btfo

[tardy echo]

Competing with god pharaoh statue and bolas citadel

[glad peak]

Who?

[knotty ferry]

ME

[tardy echo]

Throne was just mid ranging you to death and it was far more broken but like

[glad peak]

[tardy echo]

In a way where u felt like u could play the game

Against a lot of throne cards

Even if you lost while doing so

Cards from war just don’t let u play the game

[twilit canyon]

oh between war and throne no yeah its def war

i was thinking between throne + theros

[tardy echo]

Ahh u mean tbd

Maybe

I don’t actually remember all the stuff in theros anymore

[twilit canyon]

my frustration w theros is that some cards are dog poopoo and others are most broken since alpha tier

[tardy echo]

Thoracle/breach vs oko who wins

[glad peak]

Oko

[twilit canyon]

breach tbh

[tardy echo]

This was later corrected in throne of eldraine, where even the draft chaff broke pauper

[twilit canyon]

throne was before tbd

but yeah lol

[tardy echo]

I know but let me joke sigh

[tardy echo]

Some of them are just so based though

Nyxbloom ancient the wonderful man that you are

Between theros and throne I think fires of invention single-handedly created more hatred than all of the bad guys from theros combined

[knotty ferry]

Wtf there's a card named JIHAD???

Holy shit old mtg was crazy

@sleek ferry now I know why you tell me to avoid premodern players

[tardy echo]

As much as I dislike bringing up the old censored cards I will bring your attention to [[invoke prejudice]]

I guess scryfall doesn’t do bot calls for the racist cards

Regardless, that about sets the tone

[knotty ferry]

I just lookedit up

Wtf

[twilit canyon]

the artist is an actual nazi iirc? or klansmen

[glad peak]

Yep

And then there’s goofy shit like [[stasis]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/me4/64/stasis

Stasis <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338>

Enchantment
Players skip their untap steps.
At the beginning of your upkeep, sacrifice this enchantment unless you pay .

[knotty ferry]

“Today, we will be changing the multiverse ID and removing the Gatherer card image for the card Invoke Prejudice,” Wizards said. “The card is racist and made even worse by the multiverse ID it was unfortunately codified with years ago. There’s no place for racism in our game, nor anywhere else.”

My brother in Christ you made the sandwich

[knotty ferry]

Oh I saw this in a vid

[past socket]

I’m guessing it’s premodern players being chuddy boomers?

Or at least tending to be

[glad peak]

Nah there’s legitimate fun in premodern you can’t get nowadays for sure

But it’s like Edison, a format people say is good when they’ve never played it

[honest berry]

i love searching decks sometimes. criteria - budget, bracket 3. First 5 results are all $900 with their cheapest prints of every car.

[tardy echo]

Enchantress in premodern is fun

But every other part of premodern is not fun

[glad peak]

Every premodern player I’ve met all agree it’s a heinous format but in a fun way lol

[past socket]

I know I enjoy it for sure re: Edison

[glad peak]

I dip in time to time with various decks and it’s mainly fine

Cursed scroll burn is something that could never exist in the modern game for many reasons but is fun here

[tardy echo]

Do I wanna know the multiverse id

[knotty ferry]

1488 apparently

[tardy echo]

Is it gonna be like

Ok

That’s what I was gonna guess actually