Magic the Gathering

[golden plover]

Wait this is good, right?

[copper pecan]

maybe?

idk if it's standard viable

[golden plover]

I don't think so but it's really solid in limited

It does procc beanstalk and huts all your overlords tho

[trail anvil]

if you can ramp to this, you potentially hit twice off beans. it pairs really well with overlords, even without bouncing I imagine?

but there's gotta be some kind of omen dragon that works fine enough with this to bounce it, maybe even the cultivate one

[stark skiff]

Wow nice ones. Lots of good SLD this time around

[trail anvil]

why did they randomly put the mana generation in the middle of the effect?

[last glen]

I guess because the damage is the most important part.

[trail anvil]

that's fine, but then it'd make more sense to put the mana at the end

[trail anvil]

https://games.mxdwn.com/news/mxdwn-exclusive-first-look-at-new-magic-the-gathering-cards-dragonstorm-forecaster-and-dragonstorm-globe-from-upcoming-tarkir-dragonstorm-set/

there's the card that searches other specifically named cards

[sudden lava]

Im surprised we didn't get an FF reveal today

[trail anvil]

which character's voice actor has a birthday today

[sudden lava]

Some summoner from FF9

[sudden lava]

there's the card that searches 1 of 2 other cards from Maro teasers

[gritty nest]

how would you build [[!Teysa, Envoy of Ghosts]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/c21/230/teysa-envoy-of-ghosts

Teysa, Envoy of Ghosts

[sudden lava]

Voltron

[glad peak]

Why voltron?

But also, for this one you want to politic, probably stax tbh

You just make a board slog, win through board slogs with your commander and any counterplay through creatures doesn’t work

[gritty nest]

i was thinking similar, orzhov pillowfort basically

[glad peak]

For protection from non creatures you have a lot of choices and stax creatures make it harder for your opponent to layer interaction

[gritty nest]

what stax pieces exist in orzhov?

[glad peak]

Pretty much all of the good ones

[urban crane]

Just came in

[lusty trench]

https://x.com/MTGGoldfish/status/1903336778628755821?t=LYfO2Yii9s0DoiwfAbFw6g&s=19

MTGGoldfish (@MTGGoldfish) on X

Two-mana rock that's both ramp and free card draw, might get some green players on a rock. More previews at https://t.co/gvizDW3VyX

Source: WeChat

X · Mar 22, 2025, 6:43 AM

I love getting shit for retail

[trail anvil]

temur rawr x3

[lusty trench]

You joke but I wouldn't put it past wizards to release a rawr X3 girly secret lair

Unironically it could go hard

[sudden lava]

Protection from creatures is great evasion, Vigilance also lets them be able to still block.

And if the opponents dares to attack us (note add lifelink enabling cards to this deck) we destroy their stuff, and even can run Inkshield in the scenario tesya isnt out yet

[glad peak]

Adding cards specifically for a 7 mana commander seems

Bad

[sleek ferry]

This is pretty good

[[district mascot]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/dft/158/district-mascot

District Mascot <:manag:292901508654301185>

Creature — Dog Mount
This creature enters with a +1/+1 counter on it.
, Remove two +1/+1 counters from this creature: Destroy target artifact.
Whenever this creature attacks while saddled, put a +1/+1 counter on it.
Saddle 1
0/0

[glad peak]

I guess all of the sieges are going into tarkir cube

Funny thing about the tarkir cube, I don’t think I have many dragons because they’re just too good in limited

[trail anvil]

leak but holy shit what is this

||they really wanna prop up elves 😂 ||

[steady onyx]

||isnt that like the same as the green sun twilight? or zenithj? or some shit??||

[trail anvil]

there's a lot of cards like this

[steady onyx]

oh

[copper pecan]

very audacious of them to print this in the same set as craterhoof

[gritty nest]

Am I a dick for hitting a cavern of souls with a [[Field of Ruin]]?

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/moc/400/field-of-ruin

Field of Ruin

Land
: Add .
, , Sacrifice this land: Destroy target nonbasic land an opponent controls. Each player searches their library for a basic land card, puts it onto the battlefield, then shuffles.

[copper pecan]

no

[gritty nest]

The guy got so salty and scooped, it was turn 3

[copper pecan]

bruh

an issue of the skill variety

[lusty trench]

Trouble getting countered? Try: just saying no thank you.

[glad peak]

If you have a card that says your opponent can’t do something then it’s completely fine to remove it

If the guy has no basics then doubly so, their own fault for being so greedy

[golden plover]

Holy shit

[golden plover]

I don't think it's good but it's cool

[copper pecan]

i mean, [[finale of devistation]] is a pretty good card and this is better than that

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/289/finale-of-devastation

Finale of Devastation <:manax:292901509082120202><:manag:292901508654301185><:manag:292901508654301185>

Sorcery
Search your library and/or graveyard for a creature card with mana value X or less and put it onto the battlefield. If you search your library this way, shuffle. If X is 10 or more, creatures you control get +X/+X and gain haste until end of turn.
Some spells sing a quiet tune. Others roar.

[glad peak]

Finale is better because you can search and be a win con

[copper pecan]

sure if you have 12 mana but how often is that gonna happen

[glad peak]

Very often, it’s a consistent wincon for many combo decks

It’s a lot better than invasion of Ikoria, though a lot of people aren’t on that card anymore

[twilit canyon]

finale also pulls fromg y

*gy

+x/+x and haste effect is also massive

[sleek ferry]

It’s a trade off with harmonize ig

I think for typal decks this could be better, if there’s specifically a golgari Typal deck I’m not thinking of rn, this would def be better

You def play this in root decks

[twilit canyon]

for what?

what are you tutoring with it

[sleek ferry]

Probably the 3 mana red vampire to secure kills most of the time would be my guess

[twilit canyon]

what sort of root deck is playing a red vampire

[sleek ferry]

Most of them? I’ve seen [[Voldaren Thrillseeker]] in almost every roots list

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/mom/171/voldaren-thrillseeker

Voldaren Thrillseeker <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manar:292901508796645397>

Creature — Vampire Warrior
Backup 2 (When this creature enters, put two +1/+1 counters on target creature. If that's another creature, it gains the following ability until end of turn.)
, Sacrifice this creature: It deals damage equal to its power to any target.
"The end is always nigh. Let's have some fun!"
1/1

[trail anvil]

roots + cauldron to double up on win cons

that said I don't think tutoring this to the field is the move, but idk

I feel like you have enough value if you can actually stick the combo and should be focusing on that

[sleek ferry]

You still need to last a turn to kill so you can swing

[twilit canyon]

ohh this guy

[sleek ferry]

Thrillseeker is just pinging for 7+ anytime you use it

[twilit canyon]

i generally dont see it in pufe

*pure

[sleek ferry]

Lately every list I’ve run into is on both this + atraxa (Atraxa could be in the side, I’m also assuming you side more thrill seekers depending on matchup)

[trail anvil]

are you also seeing loot still or has that gone away

[golden plover]

This feels good

[past socket]

Chimken snek

[sudden lava]

Even costed

[trail anvil]

surely something is gonna want this specifically

[copper pecan]

another even cost clone for the gyruda pile

[twilit canyon]

that renew ability is neat as fuck

[golden plover]

Yeah I feel like there's gotta be a deck that wants to use it for something

Just not sure what yet

So far I'm thinking you play it and turn all your tokens into Overlord of the Mistmoors

That leaves you with a SHITLOAD of moths

[sudden lava]

good lord the presale price on Jumbo cactuar, the Timmies and Tammies of the world have wallets 😭 ?!

[copper pecan]

it's definitely gonna lower in price once the set comes out and casual players realize it isn't good

[trail anvil]

1000 power creature is just a hilarious top end

[sudden lava]

Forgot a zero, its 10 thousand

[trail anvil]

true

[gritty nest]

it was a 5 color god tribal proxy deck with all 10 OG duals

[glad peak]

Fully deserved with that manabase

Fully deserved to get ruinationed too

[gritty nest]

[[Ruination]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/cmd/134/ruination

Ruination <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manar:292901508796645397>

Sorcery
Destroy all nonbasic lands.
"We have built a wall upon sand. The wall will vanish. The sand will remain." —Oracle en-Vec

[gritty nest]

LMAO

[gritty nest]

Should I upgrade my [[minthara]] deck to not be pauper anymore, or should I keep it as is and build [[teysa, opulent oligarch]] instead?

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/clb/286/minthara-merciless-soul

Minthara, Merciless Soul <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Creature — Elf Cleric
Minthara has ward , where X is the number of experience counters you have.
At the beginning of your end step, if a permanent you controlled left the battlefield this turn, you get an experience counter.
Creatures you control get +1/+0 for each experience counter you have.
2/2

https://scryfall.com/card/mkm/234/teysa-opulent-oligarch

Teysa, Opulent Oligarch <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Creature — Human Advisor
Deathtouch
At the beginning of your end step, investigate for each opponent who lost life this turn.
Whenever a Clue you control is put into a graveyard from the battlefield, create a 1/1 white and black Spirit creature token with flying. This ability triggers only once each turn.
2/3

[sudden lava]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/448940916833648640/1353440455580192930/image.png?ex=67e1a926&is=67e057a6&hm=94455114df87c4444f059fc56ad02648e70fcbc459bd8a6971ece3cb678e6b8d&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

Info on the seeded packs

33.3% chance for mythic rare of the clan isnt too bad odds, otherwise 66.7% chance of 1 of 9 rares. Also the dice are neat

[glad peak]

Oh hey it highlights how each of the clans shifted their primary colors

[fallow citrus]

https://x.com/anzidmtg/status/1903823550345007179?t=ZqBKfefdZaTQ3FTMg115fA&s=19

anzidmtg (@anzidmtg) on X

i had this cursed thought and now you must too

X · Mar 23, 2025, 2:58 PM

[glad peak]

that would be great but then there's the problem with one half of the tables potentially having a draw

not to mention cedh has a lot of draws as is

[lusty trench]

Someone ping me when the temur deck gets revealed

I want to see what they consider what a dragon deck needs versus my experience playing it

[sudden lava]

you are gonna have to wait till the 25th

[lusty trench]

I just want to see if they'll do better than the last dragon deck they made, which was (checks list) the Ur dragon one???

[lusty trench]

Wasn't that deck about goad

[sudden lava]

its dragons+goad

[glad peak]

It’s kinda just a goad deck that happens to have SOME dragons in it, wouldn’t consider it a dragon deck

Luckily draconic destruction was more of a dragon deck

Welp gf loves bloomburrow so much I’m making a battlebox of 10 singleton 40-card decks for her from only that set

Now I gotta test the decks out, already collated the set into the 10 animals

[zinc shard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awVdlEkrJlA

[sudden lava]

Voxy built that deck with chat

also can we get the thumbnail cimo as an emote?

[steady onyx]

ITS TIME

GOLTY\

[trail anvil]

is this the first time we've had decayed printed on the creature itself? love this card

can be used as a finisher and mediocre board wipe

[copper pecan]

yeah this is the first actual decayed creature

all the other cards that used it either made tokens with it or gave it to other cards

[trail anvil]

also 2 mana demon for whatever that's worth

right

[sudden lava]

yeah, an early attacker but dies afterwards and becomes a finisher of sorts later

[glad peak]

Oh that’s very cool design

[twilit canyon]

yeah genuinely sick card

[golden plover]

It's pretty strong too

I think it sees play

[glad peak]

Oh right I forgot to follow up on the chaos draft I did earlier in the week

3-0, deck was nuts

Had a lot of chaff and a couple bombs from other colors

[zinc shard]

sadly doesnt combo with the new Zurgo but still a neat design

[gritty nest]

so I tore apart my sethron minotaur tribal today

[trail anvil]

wait doesn't this go hard as hell?

t3 you can cast this, cantrip and get a 2/2 with haste, trample and prowess on the board, with setup for future turns

[sleek ferry]

I finally did it

Mythic with only mono red goblins

[sleek ferry]

please for the love of god, somebody tell me i can still make boros equipment

[trail anvil]

I'm pretty sure this doesn't go in that deck

[sleek ferry]

girl you crazy

this def goes in boros equipment

this is better than [[glimmerlight]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/dsk/249/glimmerlight

Glimmerlight <:mana2:292901509060886528>

Artifact — Equipment
When this Equipment enters, create a 1/1 white Glimmer enchantment creature token.
Equipped creature gets +1/+1.
Equip (: Attach to target creature you control. Equip only as a sorcery.)
Hope and reliable lighting are in short supply in the House. Glimmers provide both.

[trail anvil]

ew you had to run this?

ig these are good keywords for you and it is a body generator

Flash

Flying

When this enters, return up to one other nonland permanent you control to it's owners hand. If it's a token, draw a card.

[fallow citrus]

woah its uh

[[kor skyfisher]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/mm3/11/kor-skyfisher

Kor Skyfisher <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Creature — Kor Soldier
Flying
When this creature enters, return a permanent you control to its owner's hand.
"Sometimes I snare the unexpected, but I know its purpose will be revealed in time."
2/3

[fallow citrus]

except it can't bounce lands and has a worse statline

and isn't pauper legal

[trail anvil]

and has flash and can randomly be a draw

you already know where people are suggesting to put this

[copper pecan]

does it have to be exactly five?

[trail anvil]

how would you get more than 5?

temur snappy

[copper pecan]

by misreading the card, whoops

i thought it was just "put a +1/+1 counter on each dragon you control"

[trail anvil]

holy stax

[sleek ferry]

harmonize can only reduce generic mana yeah?

[copper pecan]

ye

[sudden lava]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdSa63e9yuE&ab_channel=CommanderAtHome

[trail anvil]

dang will of the abzan is just zombify + targeted edict, that goes hard

[golden plover]

Actually is this better than Snapcaster in decks that can afford 3c?

It reduces the flashback cost by 3

[trail anvil]

in theory, but even in 3c decks needing all 3 pips is a real cost. needing the color for the spell afterwards too is worth a consideration

I feel like this goes even harder with high cost spells though cause you can get a seriously deep discount

[sleek ferry]

I mean realistically, you're never casting this on 3 anyways

[trail anvil]

wait nvm you can't tap multiple creatures

[sleek ferry]

this is like crazy value turns 4 and 5 and beyond

[twilit canyon]

yea what it lacks in bolt snap bolt makes up for raw value of it harmonizing a bigger spell and discounting by 3

[sudden lava]

Yeah but this is still flashback and a body on board, so its fine

Plus you are likely to have stronger creatures out

[lusty trench]

zetalpa in the new commander decks
Do we have to keep doing this wotc

[twilit canyon]

they must keep telling commander players to run interaction in some way shape or form

[sleek ferry]

teaching them how to interact so commander players can stop being shitters, 5head move by wotc

[lusty trench]

The temur roar deck better have an ol gnawbone or terror of the peaks in it (it will have utvara hellkite and I'm going to cry)

[glad peak]

Oh hey an actually playable card instead of 2 bad ones? I’ll take it

[lusty trench]

Calling terror of the peaks bad and utvara hellkite playable is crazy

[twilit canyon]

terror is bad

[sleek ferry]

terror is cute (in standard)

[lusty trench]

At least terror has protection built in albeit one not really worth mentioning

[twilit canyon]

you should see the alchemy lists doing gruul and discounting terror down to 2 mana

its still bad

[lusty trench]

I'm also specifically talking about dragon tribal deck, utvara usually just sits there and dies before the next upkeep

[glad peak]

Terror is hella bad

[twilit canyon]

but now it can be a bit cuter on calamity

[glad peak]

Utvara sees play in mono red stax as a win con

[sleek ferry]

format is too high powered for terror to ever be good again probably

[twilit canyon]

yep

even alchemy is stronger

when u dont see play in alchemy rn u are cooked as fuck

especially when theres a meta gruul ramp deck

[urban crane]

I don’t know if they’ll reprint gnawbone in a precon and terror just got a reprint

[lusty trench]

We've seen crazier reprints iirc but yeah I'm expecting some dud mythic dragon reprint

[urban crane]

I was thinking maybe the sarkon planeswalker

The temur one

[lusty trench]

I'll cry

[sudden lava]

they chose it for this one cuz the 8 toughness synergy with commander, but we dont need the double flapper reprinted anymore so why WOTC

[trail anvil]

[[$zetalpa, primal dawn]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/fdn/584/zetalpa-primal-dawn

Prices for Zetalpa, Primal Dawn

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$0.25

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$0.30 • €0.21 • 0.17 TIX

Commander Masters

$6.49 • 0.25 TIX

Dominaria United Commander

$0.19 • €0.14 • 1.02 TIX

Commander 2021

$0.44 • €0.21

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$0.36

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$0.28 • €0.33

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$0.37 • €0.23

Commander 2019

$0.23 • €0.27

[trail anvil]

it probably is just meant for teaching newer players tbh

tbh give us another keyword commander precon to actually justify the reprint somewhat

[lusty trench]

[trail anvil]

jesus christ what

that timing

anti-removal body + board wipe goes hard

[lusty trench]

Id feel incredibly bad about removing a 4/4 flyer for the price of two cards after they've been cycled the entire game to wipe the board, that shit would deal psychic damage to me

[glad peak]

Good thing it’s an omen so it goes back into the deck

[sleek ferry]

mono black getting a scaling board wipe pre 5 cmc is still pretty good

that doubles as a 4/4 flyer

[subtle sierra]

black eats good

as is tradition

[twilit canyon]

genuinely good

the one unfort part: only the omen can trigger beanstalk for the golgari beans midrange deck

[sleek ferry]

monument decks eating good with this one

[fallow citrus]

what a masterful play

https://x.com/IamActuallyLvL1/status/1903997373602504729

Justin 'IamActuallyLvL1' Gennari (@IamActuallyLvL1) on X

X · Mar 24, 2025, 2:28 AM

[sudden lava]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhX6qXaAa1A&feature=youtu.be

[fallow citrus]

https://x.com/WillErker/status/1904193304343744923?t=0vKwi-t8zG9daEj72BTIZg&s=19

Will Erker (@WillErker) on X

This card is sick

X · Mar 24, 2025, 3:27 PM

oh yeah, this just lets you cast all those for 1

1 mana coco goes hard

also means if you cast coco with 5 mana and hit this you can just do it again

[zinc shard]

whoa

oh wait

I thought that said 2 less and was about to lose it

[copper pecan]

yeah i'm seeing a lot of people misread this

[pulsar talon]

Surely this breaks something in eldrazi

[zinc shard]

I mean if you're able to pay 3 colored mana sure

[fallow citrus]

yeah you aren't playing it in eldrazi

[[kozilek's command]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/mh3/11/kozileks-command

Kozilek's Command <:manax:292901509082120202><:manac:292901508943577088><:manac:292901508943577088>

Kindred Instant — Eldrazi
Choose two —
• Target player creates X 0/1 colorless Eldrazi Spawn creature tokens with "Sacrifice this creature: Add ."
• Target player scries X, then draws a card.
• Exile target creature with mana value X or less.
• Exile up to X target cards from graveyards.

[fallow citrus]

like you can do this for 3 I guess?

but it isn't castable

https://x.com/HanweirGarrison/status/1903984087175483473?t=WoEe1la1bwpUUBROw-bVnA&s=19

Garrison (@HanweirGarrison) on X

Welcome to my standard play patterns for the next year.

X · Mar 24, 2025, 1:35 AM

[steady onyx]

bro i wanna play this so badly

dimir ninjas

with 1 ninja

:(

[zinc shard]

Oh I didnt even think of that

[fallow citrus]

I also saw the rakdos version of this which just uses the copy leyline with this to double rakshasa's power twice and kill

which is bad but funny

[copper pecan]

https://vxtwitter.com/BanditMTG1/status/1904262098814931309

this seems pretty good

[glad peak]

Wait what’s the wording again on raid and does this work?

Nope doesn’t work

[zinc shard]

card is cool, just not sure what decks would play it

[sudden lava]

edh card

[past socket]

Making my first from scratch deck around Arcades, the Strategist. Super excited for this step as a Magic player

[sudden lava]

give it to your 3 color commander or whatever to protect it from swords to plowshares/path to exile

[past socket]

Sounds ballin for Arcades hilariously enougj

[sudden lava]

https://x.com/covertgoblue/status/1904241853878436108

CovertGoBlue (@covertgoblue) on X

The Full Throttle incident
https://t.co/TfgZudb4xo starring
@Cimoooooooo @coL_Amazonian @VoxyTwitch

X · Mar 24, 2025, 6:40 PM

funny full throttle moment

[past socket]

SAW THIS

RIP Wezl nonbo

[sudden lava]

Nice reverse garnet, should've just drawn it

[gritty nest]

Will beach get banned?

Breach *

[rigid scarab]

Maybe

[trail anvil]

that's what prof told me so it has to be true!

[zinc shard]

.

[sudden lava]

Watching the Cimooo commander episode now

[rigid scarab]

If this means that my special guest breach will go up if it isn’t banned next list

[stark skiff]

rich

[steady onyx]

i liked it

it was funny to watch

[subtle sierra]

Repost

[sudden lava]

I like your profile pic

[subtle sierra]

Thanks ig

[sudden lava]

yw

[glad peak]

i want breach to not get banned specifically for that reason now lol

[trail anvil]

that dunce hat thumbnail is too alluring

[past socket]

Wonder what some of the sillier Defender creatures are for very Arcades reasons

[sudden lava]

(Ok one of these doesn't have defender, but it has a big butt)

[past socket]

Was finding Pride at least to be a funny idea.

Who doesn’t love to draw a billion cards

[sudden lava]

the simic crocodile cheating mana cost and touching cardboard, just blue-green things

[past socket]

And one does run stuff like [[High Alert]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/rna/182/high-alert

High Alert <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manau:292901508754702338>

Enchantment
Each creature you control assigns combat damage equal to its toughness rather than its power.
Creatures you control can attack as though they didn't have defender.
: Untap target creature.

[past socket]

(Which can actually go infinite with one of the Defender Dorks

[sudden lava]

other newer options

[past socket]

Was thinking that one new Sword that has a lower equip cost based on the number of colours as another way to protect Arcades

Sure it’s only hexproof against mono colour stuff bu a lot of strong removal is mono-coloured

[trail anvil]

do 4 mv mana dorks actually see play anywhere

[gritty nest]

Which mkm precon should I pick up? The only one I can’t get is deep clue sea

[zinc shard]

what playstyles do you like?

[gritty nest]

I think it’s better to say ones I don’t like

Stax, it’s not fun to draw go

And uh

I’m leaning away from tribal tbh

That’s about it

[zinc shard]

memorys abit rusty but looking at the lists

Deadly Disguise is an aggro deck
Revenant Recon is a control/self-mill deck
Blame Game is a politics?/pillow fort deck

So whichever one sounds more appealing

imo Revenant Recon looks the most solid out of the box

[gritty nest]

Yeah I looked at it and saw it was a mill recursion deck

Blame game I heard is also about goading

[zinc shard]

unrelated, but it looks like Prof doesnt have a video about those decks... weird

[trail anvil]

I'd recommend against deadly disguise, I heard that one is very un-functional all aorund

the other two should be pretty fine though

[zinc shard]

oh Blame Game has [[Trouble in Pairs]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/mkc/15/trouble-in-pairs

Trouble in Pairs <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Enchantment
If an opponent would begin an extra turn, that player skips that turn instead.
Whenever an opponent attacks you with two or more creatures, draws their second card each turn, or casts their second spell each turn, you draw a card.
Together, they're greater than the sum of their rap sheets.

[trail anvil]

oh shit bracket 3 /s

[gritty nest]

Deadly disguise has jeskas will too

[subtle sierra]

I read this as trouble in paris...

[zinc shard]

but who was there?

[gritty nest]

Who wasn’t there

Unrelated note but this makes me laugh

[zinc shard]

damn it i forgot to do my Tribe Nine dailies

[zinc shard]

also looks like he did do a video, it just didnt show up on Youtube search for some reason https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEeWiTGMWCw

[gritty nest]

Don’t forget deliveries

[sudden lava]

https://preview.redd.it/tdm-thunder-of-unity-journal-du-geek-v0-3zy096q0auqe1.jpeg?auto=webp&s=dd0e9ff2487c0506bd6f3495463873d234f079fc

[copper pecan]

isn't clint lockwood the guy from cloudy with a chance of meatballs

[lusty trench]

https://tenor.com/view/random-bullshit-go-moon-knight-random-random-bullshit-gif-25725102

[twilit canyon]

this is not at all random

this is the most jeskai card to ever jeskai

[lusty trench]

I mean more so in the way it's jeskai throwing out their entire toolbelt

[twilit canyon]

no flash actually means its kinda shit rip

[golden plover]

It's probably not that hard to do a cantrip into it

[waxen timber]

This is just way better Inspired Ultimatum.
1 less life, 1 less damage, 3 less cards draw
But, easier to cast, is instant speed, 2 tokens and the bounce is really good

[sleek ferry]

I would play this if it was a cat

but it's not

[golden plover]

I think it's a limited all star ngl

[sleek ferry]

110%

[golden plover]

Even outside of limited it's pretty playable

But it's really good in draft

[sleek ferry]

eh, that's debatable

[golden plover]

Oculus might try 1

They can opt and play it to get 2 more bodies on board

[sleek ferry]

for what, there's no point

[golden plover]

Actually.... It gives oculus a bit of a backup plan if they're playing under RIP

They can do a Phoenix impression with her and eidetic memory

[glad peak]

Really good in limited but I have no idea why it matters if it’s a cat or not

Might be fine to side in vs aggro, 3 mana 2 bodies with lifelink is nothing to scoff at in a faster game

[twilit canyon]

we created a jeskai variant that can play through rip

[twilit canyon]

oh commander card 💤

[glad peak]

Commander cards in sets are the worst thing to happen to magic

[twilit canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/maçavras1-gif-16101498646883457546

[zinc shard]

Oh didn't even notice

[twilit canyon]

me when i see previews and then the commander set symbol

[zinc shard]

https://magic.wizards.com/en/news

Temur Dragon precon is up

[twilit canyon]

whowas it again who wanted

@lusty trench

[zinc shard]

Its a twitch stream rn but I'm sure they'll have the list posted soon

[rigid scarab]

Magic the TCG vs Magic the board game

[lusty trench]

Saw the reprints

https://tenor.com/view/sad-walk-of-shame-shame-shameful-head-down-gif-5548725

Goldspan gone, ol' gnawbone gone, terror of the peaks gone

[rigid scarab]

Wow

These are like

Bad reprints

Commander decks lately have had

Good reprints

[lusty trench]

They're like

fine

But it's clear they're keeping the big dragons to sell sets later

[stark skiff]

Dang of course all the good SLD are gone rip

[lusty trench]

the deck doesn't even have ganax or klauth or astral dragon

I get klauth and astral ig gotta sell reprints somehow

But where on earth is ganax

I'll suck it up but damn

[trail anvil]

they didn't reprint some core dragons but as far as I can see the price is fine for reprints?

[lusty trench]

It's mainly in that game knights kobold

Who's fine but not like super important

I didn't even know this existed

[trail anvil]

yeah this certainly was a dragon that existed

[fallow citrus]

of all of the dragons, this was one of them

[glad peak]

Yep, this was used as an anti-stax stax finisher in Magda for a bit until Barry came out

[lusty trench]

Barry?

[urban crane]

New stuff is really nice though

[glad peak]

[[barkform harvester]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/blb/243/barkform-harvester

Barkform Harvester <:mana3:292901508771610624>

Artifact Creature — Shapeshifter
Changeling (This card is every creature type.)
Reach
: Put target card from your graveyard on the bottom of your library.
The farmers hide when it runs out of potatoes to harvest.
2/3

[glad peak]

Barry

[lusty trench]

Ah

[urban crane]

You like the new dragons though?

[glad peak]

Barry is my favorite win con

[lusty trench]

They're fine, the stand out is the 2 mana mimic one but otherwise they're all serviceable

[urban crane]

I mean also with the reprints except astral dragon I pretty much went and bought al expensive dragons I really needed in advance

[trail anvil]

wait how does this work

[glad peak]

It’s an artifact dwarf so all you need is clock and you’re likely to have Magda already

So how it works is this:

[lusty trench]

Most of the expensive dragons are bad like ancient copper or ol' gnawbone. They feel very win more. If you've got terror and goldspan you're probably fine though

[glad peak]

Step 1: make 15 tapped treasures
Step 2: grab vexing bauble
Step 3: grab grinding station or battered golem
Step 4: make infinite untapped treasures
Step 5: crack bauble, draw a card
Step 6: use Barry to sent bauble back into the deck
Step 7: use Magda to fetch bauble
Step 8: Repeat steps 5-7 until you draw your whole deck
Step 9: lightning bolt your opponent
Step 10: use Barry to put bolt back into the deck
Step 11: use Barry to put bauble back into the deck
Step 12: use Magda to fetch bauble and then crack bauble
Step 13: repeat steps 9-12 until everyone’s dead
Step 14: ???
Step 15: win

Technically you only need 10 treasures but the extra 5 is just for backup plays if you somehow get stopped in the middle in which case you go into the grinding station plan

[trail anvil]

fun

[lusty trench]

I'm gonna have to think on if I want to cancel my preorder for the deck

[glad peak]

Back in the day it was elixir of immortality but damn that line was long

Magda really had an amulet titan level difficulty decrease

[urban crane]

Wouldn’t call them bad

[glad peak]

Like it’s crazy to see how many people still think amulet titan is a hard deck after all the changes throughout the years

[lusty trench]

They mainly just hit the board and either they're removed before they do anything or they're winning you the game from a position you probably should've been winning anyway from

[zinc shard]

https://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/tarkir-dragonstorm-commander-decklists

All 5 precons. Keep in mind prices are skewed because of the new releases

[copper pecan]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/948945461597831218/1354184611063922818/image-159.png?ex=67e45e32&is=67e30cb2&hm=663e0bd6900fbe7a5af90e6426ce77f06cd4dedc84ae1a43c55ee69bf628931b&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=584&height=819

this seems pretty strong

[twilit canyon]

this is quite solid yeah

[past socket]

Slight Magic art rabbit hole, Animate Wall’s art is just peak

[golden plover]

https://preview.redd.it/1vk9z5n82vqe1.jpeg?auto=webp&s=e471da7028b6415f7ba678b622024d3e0254fc2e

Oh wait Beanstalk plays this

Booo they gotta ban beanstalk

[twilit canyon]

i cant think of a situation you play this in any beanstalk deck

we have ride's end, leyline binding, this town

[golden plover]

It's a side grade to rides end

Cheaper if dealing with an untapped big threat

Or if something has vigilance

[twilit canyon]

ride's end is vastly stronger

binding deals with any untapped big threat

theres literally no point

[golden plover]

In most cases, but it's an option for when they'd be paying full price on rides end

It's still just another Beanstalk watchlist card this set, even though the Sultai one is more likely to see play in the deck

[twilit canyon]

if you are paying full price on ride's end you are at a point in the game where the 2 mana doesnt matter

[golden plover]

True

It just sucks that the ones with green in them this cycle are on the standard problem watchlist

Actually it's probably an overlord mirror sideboard option

Hits the opponent's overlords in enchantment mode (ride doesn't)

Likely replaces Loran in the side

[lusty trench]

https://moxfield.com/decks/Aj7TNP0C9kudB8Uoma7jsg

Tried to fix the deck a bit with minimal money spent

[lusty trench]

I'm probably missing some good cheap dragons

[sudden lava]

now thats a wild price difference

[steady onyx]

wow

[lusty trench]

https://vxtwitter.com/Chord_O_Calls/status/1904685327874138490?t=co5EcuwkjVEqPudW9_wRIw&s=19 what gets me here is not the rarity decrease but that the card on the right is 7 years old

[sudden lava]

Temu(r) Palladia

[glad peak]

oh hey an actual elder dragon

[golden plover]

Jesus yeah that's crazy how Palladia got powercrept by a fucking uncommon

[twilit canyon]

palladia was always a fraud

[golden plover]

Yeah but that's like rare level uncommon

[glad peak]

palladia was always trash tbh

[golden plover]

Complexity creep and powercreep is kinda fucked

[glad peak]

that's an uncommon level mythic

[twilit canyon]

palladia could have been an uncommon

[golden plover]

Ehh, rare

She's legendary and has a lot going on

But not a ton interesting going on

[glad peak]

she's literally just keyword soup but slightly worse since her hexproof can be taken away

double french vanilla even

[trail anvil]

damn, this is an uncommon?

[zinc shard]

Got the Triskadecaphile win

[glad peak]

as usual, limited bomb

[sleek ferry]

https://x.com/saffronolive/status/1904883816918876173?s=46&t=DdUsqNPs-c3IFDRYOhiq8A

Saffron Olive (@SaffronOlive) on X

Bitterbirdsom

X · Mar 26, 2025, 1:11 PM

[zinc shard]

Looks like a secret lair got leaked... Composed of Food TOKENS

[golden plover]

Ohh I was wrong... This one is getting the day 0 errata

They could bake in a "X can't be 0" rule for endure maybe

[hidden ermine]

Why would it?

[golden plover]

It can make 0/0 tokens the turn it comes in

It's probably fine, but they've typically errated cards that can make 0/0 tokens so X can't be 0

[trail anvil]

you keep saying this

I guess everyone was wrong about the "hydra with set mechanic" guess

[sudden lava]

what you mean?

[golden plover]

Yeah everyone was thinking Harmonize

[sudden lava]

Ah

[golden plover]

Tbh this is far more playable than harmonize would have been

[sudden lava]

Mobilize hydra wouldve been funny tho

[golden plover]

Makes your board either tall or wide easy

[trail anvil]

or sultai mechanic since hydras are typically sultai

or one was or whatever

[golden plover]

Renew would've been harder to work, but I could've seen it

Tbh renew could've worked, but people expect 1/1 counters from hydras

And Renew is also just kinda looking underwhelming rn

[golden plover]

Not bad

[zinc shard]

"Your life ends 3 turns from now!"

"..."

[trail anvil]

this is the most tarkir temur saga

[gritty nest]

ill have to buy this at some point, i collect all official food token arts

[zinc shard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sr6tUfXS8CI

Its time

[copper pecan]

just don't buy them if you don't want them

these are just reprints

[urban crane]

1 collector

[steady onyx]

lean

clean

[sleek ferry]

This is nice with a solid stat line

[fallow citrus]

holy

https://vxtwitter.com/DroodHT/status/1904965576365420997?t=gjCFrCVfjBEb6Mkz1W2kPw&s=19

[subtle sierra]

hmm i said i liked this foil but

this is too shiny to me

[copper pecan]

yeah same

[sleek ferry]

Idk if I like the scales after looking at it now

The foil is fine

[lusty trench]

Ribbed for he-

[subtle sierra]

i just absolutely hate foil that obscure the background of a card

[lusty trench]

I'm still waiting for the rest of the reveals but this is probably my vote for most boring design of the set

[sleek ferry]

Nah, the Jeskai sorcery that literally does Jeskai stuff is the most boring by far

[trail anvil]

ngl at 8 mana this could've just pointed at any target

[golden plover]

It's fucked up that sorcery doesn't even counter the spell

Like I'm paying 8 mana, that shit should win me the game

Oh wait it's only 7

Still, a 7 mana instant should do a lot and not "fuck it just make it do all the Jeskai effects "

[urban crane]

Is there a better ninjas matter commander than yuriko?

[glad peak]

Nope

And the others who are adjacent work better without ninjas

Even without commander ninjitsu she ticks every box you want in a ninja commander

[trail anvil]

print this at 2 mana cowards /s

[twilit canyon]

no fr

[sudden lava]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1125148508920479744/1354600893353558026/sto8x3uub4re1.webp?ex=67e5e1e4&is=67e49064&hm=706897dfbb3428262064b46c1277bcc760992d7e9b107715f36d00b463113d9e&=&format=webp&width=588&height=818

[lusty trench]

Avenge your fallen brother stormshell

[glad peak]

Welcome back durdle turtle

[zinc shard]

[[Solemnity]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/hou/22/solemnity

Solemnity <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Enchantment
Players can't get counters.
Counters can't be put on artifacts, creatures, enchantments, or lands.
The arrival of the God-Pharaoh marked a betrayal of both gods and mortals.

[golden plover]

This guy is WORSE somehow lmao

Oh wait, he draws you three cards

Ehh, he's still bad

[zinc shard]

btw

[golden plover]

Almost all of these are dogshit tho lol

[trail anvil]

I love this card, it's a shame there are so few turtles

ik someone's gonna try to make it work with changelings though

hopefully we get more turtles soon, there seems to be an uptick

[glad peak]

You can play this with spiderman and draw a bunch of cards

[last glen]

What's the tag to search by future standard

[sleek ferry]

3 of these cards see play today

2 are fringe playable

3 are fringe playable*

[golden plover]

Wait which three

[sleek ferry]

Green shell, hall clade and aegis turtle all see play today

Blossoming, bedrock and Kogla are all fringe playable

[golden plover]

I've literally never seen any of those see play

[glad peak]

Only kogla has a chance of seeing play

[copper pecan]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/948945461597831218/1354599823793193041/image0.jpg?ex=67e5e0e5&is=67e48f65&hm=6230bb8585e5192b84cc43be429548cabed7906329d97e4c9b493d7f3309813c&=&format=webp&width=669&height=930

meandering towershell... TWO!

[golden plover]

I love that he's equally as bad

[past socket]

Anytime is Turtle Time

[golden plover]

It's happening

[copper pecan]

wild that a combat trick is apparently good enough to get banned

[golden plover]

I think it's moreso the fact that you can do it for 1 mana in conjunction with Hero

Can do like 7-14 t2-3

[copper pecan]

oh yeah true

[golden plover]

Hopefully this means they're also hitting beans and this town

[copper pecan]

i guess they saw how weak heroic was in theros standard and overcorrected

[golden plover]

The thing is valiant is fine

[twilit canyon]

hope this is fake bc they would need to do a wide sweep of bans

otherwise aggro is just not keeping up

[copper pecan]

the big bad bean ban

[golden plover]

I mean beans, this town, and rage levels the format very fairly

[twilit canyon]

it'd be whatever ig to do a soft rotation now

[glad peak]

So I’m making a singleton 40 card flavor bloomburrow battlebox, adding calamities to the archetypes with weaker decks but now I have a dilemma

[golden plover]

Beans is gonna have to go sooner rather than later as is

Aggro is still good to a slower format with Turn Inside Out instead of Rage

And this town kills pixie

[twilit canyon]

it really isnt

[glad peak]

Should I allow duplicates across decks (apart from lands and duos since that’s what they’re meant for) or no

[twilit canyon]

rage is reach

killing pixie kills the most accessible midrange lists more or less

[golden plover]

Dimir probably becomes the deck to beat then, but Dimir is playing a fair game plan

And that'd open the format up to more options

[twilit canyon]

yeah with curiosity drawing like 200 cards

that doesnt open up the format

[golden plover]

Dimir is easy enough to play through

Decks can be built to beat it

As long as they're not throwing against aggro or overlords

[twilit canyon]

so then they cant beat it

cus they cant throw against aggro or overlord

[golden plover]

I do think Beanstalk and Rage bans opens the format a ton

[twilit canyon]

not really

i think its fine to leave them unless they will actively go for more bans

cus aggro would be ass without the reach from rage

[golden plover]

Beanstalk is gonna have to go sooner rather than later

[twilit canyon]

beans is also kind of whatever

if you remove it, the midrange/value decks just have very little which can be fine if you want to soft rotate the current good decks

[golden plover]

And if Rage is confirmed on the chopping block (provided this isn't a bug) hitting the other big two levels the field

Beans is a 2 for 1 into removal at worst

Since it replaces itself, any removal against it nets you 2

And then if it's unchecked it takes the game

That and the fact that beanstalk encourages cheating mana is the issue

Beans would be a fair card if you had to actually spend the 5

[twilit canyon]

it'd be bad

[golden plover]

But the fact that it staples cantrips onto your 1-4 mana spells is silly

[twilit canyon]

the whole point is to cheat on the value

[golden plover]

Nah, the card was for WOE's Simic draft archetype

Which was 5+ cost spells matter

I feel like the way it works is an obvious oversight

[twilit canyon]

thats silly to think they werent thinking of the overlords when making it

and this town

and the other cards that discount themselves coming up

it'd be horrible design

[golden plover]

Maybe to an extent, but the modern ban proved they didn't factor in mana cheating as much as they should have

The benefit to cheating on mana should be cheating on mana anyways

[twilit canyon]

sure ig

[golden plover]

Adding a draw on top (and again, worst case your opponent goes 2 for 1 to remove it) is a poorly designed card

[twilit canyon]

this is the cost to value decks in the current era of magic though

[golden plover]

I think it's only a matter of time before beans eats a ban in everything but commander/legacy/vintage

[twilit canyon]

get 2 for 1s is literally how you play magic

at least in midrange

[golden plover]

Yeah but it's 2 for 1 at worst case

It scales exponentially with how easy mana cheating is

And Tarkir adds at least two options for that (beans totally sides the Abzan one if it's not dead at that point)

[twilit canyon]

those cards are irrelevant

[golden plover]

Nah, beans sides it for the mirror and unfortunately any card that's "5+ mana" is worth looking at in conjunction with it rn

If beans goes the Abzan one definitely doesn't see play

[twilit canyon]

you're so focused on hard to cast cards

that cost 3

when beans is trying to cheat on cards that cost 2

[golden plover]

It's not that hard to cast the Abzan one for the domain mirror

[twilit canyon]

the only cards beans plays that cost 3 at their cheat is gren overlord which rebuys the mana

and white overlord which is also cheating on its cost exponentially as a wincon with zur

[golden plover]

Takes their overlords before they become creatures, gets your stuff back from Leyline, and is better than destroy evil or Loran for the slot

[twilit canyon]

theres a real upside to destroy evil and loran

[golden plover]

All of that + draw a card in the mirror seems silly

[twilit canyon]

loran is a body on board and destroy evil is extremely efficient

[golden plover]

I don't think they main it, but it's definitely a side slot if they don't kill Beanstalk on Monday

[sleek ferry]

If rage is a foregone conclusion to be banned, then you have to ban beans tbh

[twilit canyon]

yep and probs a few more things

[trail anvil]

hasn't the "monstrous rage is banned" bug been around for a bit?

[trail anvil]

I finally got bumbleflower working how I want it

[twilit canyon]

maybe from its alchemy ban

but who knows

[trail anvil]

maybe

[trail anvil]

yeah that certainly is a temur uncommon

3 mana on the second elephant is nice but wow we really elephant spamming out here

[rigid scarab]

Surely they could have given the elephant token trample

[copper pecan]

probably not

this would have been too good for limited

[polar lake]

oh hey is a [[call of the herd]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/plst/DMR-153/call-of-the-herd

Call of the Herd <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manag:292901508654301185>

Sorcery
Create a 3/3 green Elephant creature token.
Flashback (You may cast this card from your graveyard for its flashback cost. Then exile it.)

[past socket]

Ph00nt

[golden plover]

This feels like the missing piece for the Mardu mobilize midrange deck to be real in standard

[sudden lava]

Going Mardu for prerelease

[golden plover]

Creature - Goblin Warrior

Mobilize 1

1R, Sactifice this creature: It deals damage to target creature equal to the number of creatures you control.

Mobilize 1 on a 1 drop feels really strong

[fallow citrus]

remind me what mobilize is

is it just make 1 token on etb

[subtle sierra]

Isn't it attacking token on attack

[glad peak]

And then sac the token at the end of turn

[golden plover]

Attacking 1/1 token on attack, sacc at eot

[fallow citrus]

oh sure

so t1 that guy t2 sharpshooter then you swing and maybe do 3

[glad peak]

Another card for celes but I don’t think I want it

Celes already doesn’t play aristocrat effects and molten is better since you have unearth on it

[golden plover]

You'd be doing 4 there

Since the sharpshooter does 1 on the token's etb

But there's cards with mobilize 2-4

I think mobilize has real legs

[[Avenger of the Fallen]] seems very good

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/tdm/73/avenger-of-the-fallen

Avenger of the Fallen <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manab:292901508872273920>

Creature — Human Warrior
Deathtouch
Mobilize X, where X is the number of creature cards in your graveyard. (Whenever this creature attacks, create X tapped and attacking 1/1 red Warrior creature tokens. Sacrifice them at the beginning of the next end step.)
2/4

[golden plover]

[[Zurgo, Thunder's Decree]] seems decent

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/tdm/237/zurgo-thunders-decree

Zurgo, Thunder's Decree <:manar:292901508796645397><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Creature — Orc Warrior
Mobilize 2 (Whenever this creature attacks, create two tapped and attacking 1/1 red Warrior creature tokens. Sacrifice them at the beginning of the next end step.)
During your end step, Warrior tokens you control have "This token can't be sacrificed."
"Hear me, Mardu! Our freedom is only beginning!"
2/4

[golden plover]

And [[Venerated Stormsinger]] also helps make sure the tokens hurt

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/tdm/97/venerated-stormsinger

Venerated Stormsinger <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manab:292901508872273920>

Creature — Orc Cleric
Mobilize 1 (Whenever this creature attacks, create a tapped and attacking 1/1 red Warrior creature token. Sacrifice it at the beginning of the next end step.)
Whenever this creature or another creature you control dies, each opponent loses 1 life and you gain 1 life.
3/3

[golden plover]

This feels like it should've been uncommon tbh

It's like good enough, but that 5 mana is a big ask

I don't see a world it sees play over Buried Alive, an uncommon

[glad peak]

Sure but a buried alive on a stick? Interesting

[fallow citrus]

[[buried alive]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/mh3/273/buried-alive

Buried Alive <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manab:292901508872273920>

Sorcery
Search your library for up to three creature cards, put them into your graveyard, then shuffle.
The scrape of shovels and the tumble of cold dirt soon muffled their pleas.

[fallow citrus]

2 mana more for it being on a body makes me not sure if it's worth

[golden plover]

And the colors are a lot harder

Upside is that it doesn't have to be creatures

But I'm not sure what else you'd flashback?

There's a commander line where you ditch dread return, Thoracle, and [[Nacromeba]] with 1 other creature out and consult in hand

[lost widget]

No card found for “Nacromeba”

[golden plover]

But... That doesn't feel like it's real

[[Narcomeba]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/grn/47/narcomoeba

Narcomoeba <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338>

Creature — Illusion
Flying
When this card is put into your graveyard from your library, you may put it onto the battlefield.
"What bait do you cast to catch a dream?" —Ravnican riddle
1/1

[golden plover]

Oh wait that doesn't work

Since that's two blue cards

[zinc shard]

p1p1?

[copper pecan]

either serpent or gift

[twilit canyon]

i'd take gpg here

just a great card all around that can fit various deck types

[golden plover]

Yeah definitely gift

Also, am I cooking

https://moxfield.com/decks/XStyct-9FE2kYbXK2JVWRA

[glad peak]

You can do narco gravecrawler vengevine

[glad peak]

Definitely gift here

[golden plover]

Why Gravecrawler over Bloodghast in that scenario?

[glad peak]

Let me check the wording on [[vengevine]] again, I remember cast being necessary

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/2xm/185/vengevine

Vengevine <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manag:292901508654301185><:manag:292901508654301185>

Creature — Elemental
Haste
Whenever you cast a spell, if it's the second creature spell you cast this turn, you may return this card from your graveyard to the battlefield.
Leave but a shred of root and it will return, bursting with vigor.
4/3

[golden plover]

Oh so it is

[golden plover]

Hmm how do we feel about this

It's potentially nuts

[sleek ferry]

I like it

Idt it’s nuts

But it is a solid card with good stats

[golden plover]

The haste does a lot there

[sleek ferry]

It’s arguably a better cedh commander than it is anything else

[golden plover]

It can't really make overlords every swing (good) but it can do a lot

[lusty trench]

Deathtouch
...I mean sure fuck it ig

[golden plover]

And if it copies one of the good mobilize guys it can be wacky

Funny enough, if you make [[Zurgo, Thunder's Decree]] the token, he won't sacc himself

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/tdm/237/zurgo-thunders-decree

Zurgo, Thunder's Decree <:manar:292901508796645397><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Creature — Orc Warrior
Mobilize 2 (Whenever this creature attacks, create two tapped and attacking 1/1 red Warrior creature tokens. Sacrifice them at the beginning of the next end step.)
During your end step, Warrior tokens you control have "This token can't be sacrificed."
"Hear me, Mardu! Our freedom is only beginning!"
2/4

[twilit canyon]

in 1v1 you get wrecked by removal with this

[golden plover]

That's more of a draft play for that, but it's cute

I dunno, you get the guy back if they remove this

[twilit canyon]

yeah somewhat but it slows down that creature too

[golden plover]

OHH WAIT

Ketramose

Wait that's real

Ketramose will draw you the card off him getting exiled

And then your ketramose is live before you meet criteria

[sleek ferry]

The issue with mardu rn in standard is simple

Mardu cannot keep up with other decks in the late game, so you need either a high value combo, or a way to keep tempo

Neither of which they currently have

Nor have they revealed a solution to

[golden plover]

True. But luckily if Beans goes, Mardu gets a bit more of a chance

[sleek ferry]

Sadly would still not be enough

[golden plover]

Nah, it slows the deck down a town

Mardu gets better

[twilit canyon]

still lacks the best overlord

and it lacks the best advantage card in curiosity

[golden plover]

But it's still got decks like Dimir it's not necessarily winning rn

[sleek ferry]

Mardu would need a significantly lower power meta to shine

Power level is too high in standard right now

[twilit canyon]

theres just not a lot of reason to splash red in wb/x

[golden plover]

I think there's a decent chance if the shell is strong enough, but it really depends on Monday's banlist

[twilit canyon]

this card sure can work a bit with ketramose but ideally in a ketramose deck, you're enabling him to attack consistently and this card cant serve as emergency removal either

[sleek ferry]

If you want to look for a color combo that should be better post tarkir, izzet is probably what I’m looking at, abzan even

[golden plover]

And I do think at least a couple of the Mardu cards spoiled play better than they read

[twilit canyon]

i agree with both

possibly temur

[sleek ferry]

Nah, Temur shit looks cope

I’m ngl

[golden plover]

I dunno about Abzan, but I think Temur and Sultai got a bit of decent support too

Issue for Sultai is also it competing with Overlord piles

[twilit canyon]

sultai is not gonna cut it

abzan is already the meta colors for domain

[golden plover]

I think like 2 of the Abzan cards are playable in domain rn

And if beans goes, one is unplayable

[twilit canyon]

im not playing 3c cards in domain besides zur

im looking at cards like scavenger regent

disruptive stormbrood

the widling idr the name but it can search a basic has potential

getting access to kishla village and great arashin city is also big

if theres enough dragons in the deck too, i am also looking at caustic exhale

possibly even united battlefront as a card because it can cheat in temp lockdown and another value 3 drop nonland noncreature

ill let others get distracted by mid tier 3c cards

[sleek ferry]

Difference here is the good cards that are in abzan colors are just generally good cards. The good cards that are in mardu colors right now, go against what the new Mardu cards wants to be doing

Mardu’s direction is all over the place right now

[twilit canyon]

they can never decide if its aggro, midrange, or value

[stark skiff]

reminds me of the Altair deck from AC

[sleek ferry]

Trust me, nobody wants mardu to be good more than me. It was the first deck I hit mythic with

[twilit canyon]

and it cant take good advantage of the 2c pair combos well either

boros stuff doesnt synergize with rakdos stuff which doesnt synergize well with orzhov stuff

[sleek ferry]

Like the only stuff I can think of that could be good with the new mardu stuff is the rakdos zombie that recurs itself, but then you want to be playing some mill probably and now you have a list that’s just wonky

In other news, idk how to feel about the new goblin. It’s obviously good, but it’s probably not that good in actual goblins

[twilit canyon]

its fine

technical upgrade in the boros/jeskai convoke decks

cus it can help be a 1 drop and then late, it can nuke if the board stalls

but the board stalling likely includes a board wipe which limits it a lot and the fact that it can only hit creatures sucks

[sleek ferry]

No yeah, the card is good in other decks. It’s a much needed 1 drop for a lot of decks

[lusty trench]

set is called dragonstorm
All the dragons are bad in dragon tribal
Honestly... Idm a lot of the clan dragons (not you temur) are fun designs enough themselves

The delve one is cool as hell

[sleek ferry]

You thought you were getting another goldspan dragon?

[lusty trench]

I was expecting more like decent cards tbh

[twilit canyon]

the dragons are all fine tbh

[lusty trench]

But a lot of it is Timmy bait in a deck you already have to put Timmy bait in

[twilit canyon]

a good chunk of them will be great in limited

a lot will be solid if not good in standard

especially the omens

[sleek ferry]

Yeah I’ll probably try izzet on release and even though I was shitting on it, I got to build mardu

It is my color combo after all

[twilit canyon]

thugs really out here waking up to play mardu piles

i do hope it improves and/or is tuned in some capacity

[sleek ferry]

Only thing that’s coming to mind right now is the new goblin 1 drop, the start your engines Orzhov 2 drop and then yeah, I’m fucking myself over massively because idk if Mardu even has the mana base to be playable

[twilit canyon]

mana is okay as long as you arent too greedy

[sleek ferry]

Me not being greedy? That will be the day

[twilit canyon]

[glad peak]

Cedh is very likely to not play this unless there’s a combo that you can cheat out faster than already exists

[lusty trench]

Wotc making these and praying people don't realise they're bad (they won't it has a picture of a dragon on it)

The winners for dragon tribal this set is like... These two

The mana rock I'm not certain on but is likely good

[copper pecan]

are all the omen cards in the set dragons?

[twilit canyon]

yeah p sure

[golden plover]

Yeah, omen is a dragon specific mechanic

[copper pecan]

makes sense, it seems like the kind of mechanic that would only really make sense on expensive cards

[gritty nest]

When is the B&R update?

[twilit canyon]

lunes

[gritty nest]

?

[trail anvil]

that means monday in spanish

[gritty nest]

Ah okay

Thank you

[copper pecan]

world's largest pawpatch recruit

[subtle sierra]

Imagine lying

[sleek ferry]

I’ve seen bigger

That’s what she said

[zinc shard]

What is happening in this artwork lol

[copper pecan]

wrestling

[zinc shard]

I didn't realize there were two separate people at first

[golden plover]

I love when I can tell that an opponent doesn't know how to play their optimal lines

Just watched my Esper pixie opponent die over the course of 4 turns to my Sheoldred in simplified boardstate/topdecking because they had Stormchasers and Fear of Isolation on board to my Sheoldred, Restless Reefs, and Deep Cavern Bat. They had a Stock Up in grave

Wouldn't have guaranteed they had the game, but stock up would have given them a better chance to dig for a this town than just topdecking for turn. And the this town could've still reset stormchasers

[copper pecan]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/948945461597831218/1355198581316915470/en_161aa7bba1.webp?ex=67e80e88&is=67e6bd08&hm=ddd12ce46819fd40621910ce7c885ac604d0f17f20cbbd3b62d590d89031bf9b&=&format=webp&width=666&height=930

for a second i legit thought this monkey was holding a grenade

[lusty trench]

MONKEH

[golden plover]

I've already lost like 6 limited games to this shit and the set isn't even out

Welcome back Guilds of Ravnica board stall

[sudden lava]

https://tenor.com/view/hmmm-mmmm-monkey-turtle-kung-fu-panda-gif-17129341

[steady onyx]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DljY2xKvB20&ab_channel=CovertGoBlue

ANOTHER?

[glad peak]

What was the lore reason as to why eshki became the dragonclaw other than being a good leader during phyrexia?

What happened to the bearpuncher

[past socket]

Bearpuncher is too boss a title to downgrade to Dragonclaw

[zinc shard]

Alright how do we break this

[last glen]

Needs some cost reduction

[trail anvil]

or just blinking, but there are probably better things to blink

I think it's just a draft card for color fixing tbh

[glad peak]

Sure but he was all of the bearpuncher, the dragonpuncher, and the dragonclaw but no longer the dragonclaw

[last glen]

Doesn't it not give you mana if you blink

Oh
If you bounce it and recast it
infinite casts if you can keep bouncing it

[glad peak]

Infinite storm for [[stormscale scion]] poggy woggies we finally broke storm

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/tdm/123/stormscale-scion

Stormscale Scion <:mana4:292901508712890379><:manar:292901508796645397><:manar:292901508796645397>

Creature — Dragon
Flying
Other Dragons you control get +1/+1.
Storm (When you cast this spell, copy it for each spell cast before it this turn. Copies become tokens.)
Dragons of Tarkir are born fully formed, roars blending with the storms as a single, inseparable voice.
4/4

[trail anvil]

oh yeah you need to cast it lol

[glad peak]

While designing the history of tarkir cube I realized the rebound mechanic really synergizes well with the second spell mechanic especially in limited where you don’t have much card draw to fuel double spelling a turn

[sudden lava]

its an on enter ability, you can blink it

doesn't improve storm count tho

[glad peak]

Damn, the creatures really are too good in dragonstorm for a tarkir planar cube

[last glen]

It explicitly says you need to cast it to get the mana

[sudden lava]

"if you cast it" nvm

https://tenor.com/view/tolarian-community-college-kyle-hill-magic-the-gathering-i-hate-your-deck-reading-the-card-gif-22381436

that makes this significantly worst, not bad just worst. Unfortunately the card is a hard pass for me outside of prerelease

[lusty trench]

Chase inserts spotted

[glad peak]

Yep

[stark skiff]

that Tithe is nice

and jeez how many times they gonna print dismemb er

dont even recognize what spongebob thats from

im guessing the bonus ones are guaranteed?

[lusty trench]

It's from a modern SpongeBob episode

I think it's literally titled my leg

It's where Fred (fish in the dismember), keeps breaking his legs so he can see a nurse he likes

[glad peak]

Most sane person having a crush

[sudden lava]

https://moxfield.com/decks/un1-fhK8gUWzOZDkLNHskg Looked to see if someone made a Kamen Rider Gavv deck on Moxfield, there is one for the elder sister

so on theme

[past socket]

Hungey kot

[sudden lava]

Eat all the human creatures

[stark skiff]

oh actually one of the few new ones ive seen

[gritty nest]

i royally pissed off the potential cheater at the LGS last night and it was worth it

[glad peak]

What did they do?

[gritty nest]

they played a [[!saruman of many colors]] mill deck, did a turn 1 Sol Ring Signet into Ruin Crab

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/ltr/223/saruman-of-many-colors

Saruman of Many Colors

[gritty nest]

i hit that shit with a [[Wear Down]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/blb/203/wear-down

Wear Down <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manag:292901508654301185>

Sorcery
Gift a card (You may promise an opponent a gift as you cast this spell. If you do, they draw a card before its other effects.)
Destroy target artifact or enchantment. If the gift was promised, instead destroy two target artifacts and/or enchantments.
The birdfolk guards flitted angrily. "Seriously, Timbles? Again?!"

[gritty nest]

LMAO

[glad peak]

[[ruin crab]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/znr/75/ruin-crab

Ruin Crab <:manau:292901508754702338>

Creature — Crab
Landfall — Whenever a land you control enters, each opponent mills three cards. (To mill a card, a player puts the top card of their library into their graveyard.)
To an explorer, a priceless treasure. To the crab, a rock to call home.
0/3

[glad peak]

So they were cheating unless they had another rock that made a color

Sus

Oh I misread the initial message lol

How do you know if they were cheating?

[gritty nest]

they always have sol ring signet, every game

every deck

to the point its called the "[Player Name] Ring"

[sudden lava]

@gritty nest People never bother to cut that player's deck?

[gritty nest]

we normally dont, but i may start considering it. We did it once before with someone else and they cut it out

[sleek ferry]

Any reason I shouldnt order 2 play boxes of tarkir for $100 each?

[gritty nest]

singles >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

why spend $200 for a chance at a card when you can spend $200 for what you want

[sleek ferry]

Because this entire set is kinda crazy in terms of value

The dragons will hold value for the Timmies, the cedh cards will hold value because they’re just plain good, and if you pull a fetch that already pays for 1/5th of the box

[lusty trench]

You're likely to still not break even

Keep in mind current prices are preorder prices

The dragons in this set will likely not hold value on account of them being not great even for Timmies, the only cards I'd bank on holding value in that sense is the dragon jewel and ugin

However I will say this: if you want to support more sets like tarkir, buy this set

It will be wotcs biggest indicator people want sets like the ones in the past

[glad peak]

You should get them for draft

[urban crane]

Wb the other planeswalker
And the dragon omen land and the let’s call em clan lands?

[trail anvil]

yeah elspeth is automatically a $40 card because of her static alone

the clan lands are cheeks

[steady onyx]

cause im buying 3 and u should be better then me

[past socket]

Really like that Felothar that does Defender things for Abzan

[trail anvil]

idk though I feel like the value of this set rests on commander and modern relevance, and that's what you gotta go off of ig

[past socket]

This one Aura from TDS at least seems pretty neat for my (in-progress) [[Three Dog]] deck [[Tempest Technique]] I believe it was called

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/pip/120/three-dog-galaxy-news-dj

Three Dog, Galaxy News DJ <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manar:292901508796645397><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Legendary Creature — Human Bard
Whenever you attack, you may pay and sacrifice an Aura attached to Three Dog. When you sacrifice an Aura this way, for each other attacking creature you control, create a token that's a copy of that Aura attached to that creature.
"You're listening to Galaxy News Radio, bringing you the truth, no matter how bad it hurts."
1/5

https://scryfall.com/card/tdc/16/tempest-technique

Tempest Technique <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Enchantment — Aura
Storm (When you cast this spell, copy it for each spell cast before it this turn. You may choose new targets for the copies. Copies become tokens.)
Enchant creature you control
Enchanted creature gets +1/+1 for each enchantment you control.

[sleek ferry]

Mistrise village is like an edh staple going forward

And probably a standard staple too for blue decks

[trail anvil]

oh yeah except the blue land I guess lmao

idk about standard staple though

[sleek ferry]

It’s next spell, so it’s a better utility cavern of souls for blue decks imo

Makes sure all your instant and sorceries resolve

Uncounterable board wipes for azorius

Let’s see what else, Ugin is going to be a $50+ card more than likely, I’d be genuinely shocked if it doesn’t see play across multiple formats

[trail anvil]

is that really what's holding back control rn with pixie decks in the format though idk

zur also just churns advantage nonstop

ugin is an obvious staple yeah

[sleek ferry]

Clarion conqueror + Voice of Victory become some of the best stax pieces we have off rip

Stadium headliner is a great scaling 1 drop

Aetherdrift has 2 non showcase non borderless cards worth $30 and I think tarkir is a better set than it

[glad peak]

I’m equal parts excited about the draft environment and scared because the creatures are way too strong

It really just looks like aggro vs board stall vs dragons

[lusty trench]

Elspeth will be like £15-20 rn and I have no clue how she'll keep value mainly just comparing it to cards that are similar but harder to remove. Clan lands are stinky except for mistrise which will be £10+ probably, and idk what you mean by dragon omen land

If you mean this

£3 rn, will slowly gain in price the longer it goes unreprinted

[glad peak]

[[knockout maneuver]] is a pale imitation of [[savage punch]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/tdm/147/knockout-maneuver

Knockout Maneuver <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manag:292901508654301185>

Sorcery
Put a +1/+1 counter on target creature you control, then it deals damage equal to its power to target creature an opponent controls.
An exceptional bout during the Zenith celebration will be noted by Temur elders and result in recruitment for higher ranks.

https://scryfall.com/card/ktk/147/savage-punch

Savage Punch <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manag:292901508654301185>

Sorcery
Target creature you control fights target creature you don't control.
Ferocious — The creature you control gets +2/+2 until end of turn before it fights if you control a creature with power 4 or greater.

[sleek ferry]

Bought 5 play booster packs from whatnot and hit 2 mythics, gg I got the gambling out my system now

[lusty trench]

Which ones

[sleek ferry]

Rakshasa and Death Begets Life

Not bad for $23

1 of my rares was also naga fleshcrafter which I needed

[gritty nest]

My LGS is doing a precon league, the rules are simple

• Only precons Strixhaven and forward (2021 forward) are allowed, and premium product precons are disallowed (Commander Masters, MH3)
• after each league, you’re allowed to buy 1 standard legal pack, and pick 1 card from the pack to add to the deck. If you get a good pack and want multiple cards, you can skip a pack next league and instead grab a second card

Do I use Tinker Time (Gimbal, Gremlin Prodigy), which is one of the worst precons ever made (it sells sealed for $18.) Or do I use Miracle Worker, the Aminatou precon from Duskmourn?

[sudden lava]

Ordered tempest techniquee

[sudden lava]

Tinker Time with Rashmi & Ragavan as your commander

Alternative option that aren't those two, Quick Draw Precon (Use packs on Wilds of Eldraine packs till you get a twisted fealty? )

[gritty nest]

[[twisted fealty]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/woe/154/twisted-fealty

Twisted Fealty <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manar:292901508796645397>

Sorcery
Gain control of target creature until end of turn. Untap that creature. It gains haste until end of turn.
Create a Wicked Role token attached to up to one target creature. (If you control another Role on it, put that one into the graveyard. Enchanted creature gets +1/+1. When this token is put into a graveyard, each opponent loses 1 life.)

[gritty nest]

Stella Lee is goated ngl

[past socket]

That was for Light-Paws, right?

Wonder if it’d be good for [[Three Dog]] too

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/pip/120/three-dog-galaxy-news-dj

Three Dog, Galaxy News DJ <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manar:292901508796645397><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Legendary Creature — Human Bard
Whenever you attack, you may pay and sacrifice an Aura attached to Three Dog. When you sacrifice an Aura this way, for each other attacking creature you control, create a token that's a copy of that Aura attached to that creature.
"You're listening to Galaxy News Radio, bringing you the truth, no matter how bad it hurts."
1/5

[past socket]

Minus the Storm it seems like a slightly pricier mana costed All That Glitters

[sudden lava]

Pearl-Ear

[past socket]

Oop

[past socket]

Gotta try them in Three Dog too actually, so much value

Pearl-Ear, I mean

[gritty nest]

Three dog is dumb as hell and I love it

My friend smacked him with a [[sages reverie]] and decked himself

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/c18/72/sages-reverie

Sage's Reverie <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Enchantment — Aura
Enchant creature
When this Aura enters, draw a card for each Aura you control that's attached to a creature.
Enchanted creature gets +1/+1 for each Aura you control that's attached to a creature.

[past socket]

Truly ready to help the people fight the good fight

[gritty nest]

Was peak comedy

[past socket]

Almost as much of a double-edged sword as [[Obeka, Splitter of Seconds]] and [[Descent into Avernus]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/otj/222/obeka-splitter-of-seconds

Obeka, Splitter of Seconds <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338><:manab:292901508872273920><:manar:292901508796645397>

Legendary Creature — Ogre Warlock
Menace
Whenever Obeka deals combat damage to a player, you get that many additional upkeep steps after this phase.
"You're living on borrowed time."
2/5

https://scryfall.com/card/clb/169/descent-into-avernus

Descent into Avernus <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manar:292901508796645397>

Enchantment
At the beginning of your upkeep, put two descent counters on this enchantment. Then each player creates X Treasure tokens and this enchantment deals X damage to each player, where X is the number of descent counters on this enchantment.

[gritty nest]

Lmfao

[sudden lava]

https://youtu.be/fBrzkTMfVfY

[gritty nest]

How good is that obeka?

[past socket]

She’s pretty popular at the very least for how fun it is to mess with Upkeep triggers

[sudden lava]

flying banding first strike

[past socket]

Like the Court Enchantments for example

Though Obeka is very much KOS, so defo pack protection

But honestly Three Dog is the only Boros Commander I found interesting

[gritty nest]

Rn I’m building a rakdos midrange? Deck

It uses shadow heart with dragon cultist, steal people’s creatures, fling them back at them/sack them for draw

[glad peak]

Rakdos the muscle with ad naus

[past socket]

Though yeah it was between Three Dog and [[Rose, Cutthroat Raider]] for my first from scratch deck (decided that they were pretty cool and felt it fitting to not play Blue for once as well the first set I ever played with being Fallout)

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/pip/66/rose-cutthroat-raider

Rose, Cutthroat Raider <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manar:292901508796645397><:manar:292901508796645397>

Legendary Artifact Creature — Robot
First strike
Raid — At end of combat on your turn, if you attacked this turn, create a Junk token for each opponent you attacked. (It's an artifact with ", Sacrifice this token: Exile the top card of your library. You may play that card this turn. Activate only as a sorcery.")
Whenever you sacrifice a Junk, add .
3/2

[past socket]

Though ultimately found Boros Enchantress too interesting of a concept to resist

[gritty nest]

my first by scratch deck I think was minotaur tribal

[past socket]

As much as Rose is just a fuckton of value and weirdly plays like Blue with how much advantahe you generate with the aggression of Mono Red

[gritty nest]

yeah

do you run [[Wyleth]]?

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https://scryfall.com/card/cmr/362/wyleth-soul-of-steel

Wyleth, Soul of Steel <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manar:292901508796645397><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Legendary Creature — Human Warrior
Trample
Whenever Wyleth attacks, draw a card for each Aura and Equipment attached to it.
"Two things a warrior needs: a strong sword and a strong will."
2/2

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I think my first deck was group slug with the intention of killing 1 person fast and destroying nonbasics

Mainly to be mean lmao

My favorite deck so far is celes, she plays like a couple of my favorite decks across multiple formats

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[[Celes}}

[[celes]]

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Multiple cards match “celes”, can you be more specific?

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Beater option and draws more cards, defo a good choice

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[[Celes, Rune Knight]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/fic/201/celes-rune-knight

Celes, Rune Knight <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manar:292901508796645397><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Creature — Human Wizard Knight
When Celes enters, discard any number of cards, then draw that many cards plus one.
Whenever one or more other creatures you control enter, if one or more of them entered from a graveyard or was cast from a graveyard, put a +1/+1 counter on each creature you control.
4/4

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This one?

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