if predictions are right, we will get our alt commander for Limit Break on that day
#Magic the Gathering
sudden lava
glad peak
May 3rd, gonna mark on my calendar for when I should not look at mtg reddit
Hopefully I’m wrong about the amount of custom alt arts people are going to post there about her
fallow citrus
trail anvil
ew
fallow citrus
yeah I'm not a fan
twilit canyon
this is extremely funny though
tef +, flash in battlefront, put in narset into play
on their draw spell
golden plover
Feels very magical Christmas land tho
I guess you're running all of it in the same shell either way, but what does the deck do when it doesn't hit the two
I guess the card might have a niche enough home in cedh tho
Gets most stax pieces
copper pecan
https://vxtwitter.com/jabjabber_/status/1901660050977853945?t=0Pe9ratcdXjFRhrdXY...
i keep forgetting that time raveler costs 3 mana
i play a lot of brawl so i'm used to the alchemy version, which costs 4
zinc shard
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/mtg-arena/announcements-march-17-2025
We're getting precon Standard decks in the shop
5c Domain, Jeskai Oculus, Golgari Graveyard, Gruul Mice and Mono Red Aggro
past socket
Little friendo mice?
trail anvil
more like little foe mice, those fuckers are too quick
past socket
They are your friends but not the opponent’s, got it
But if not friend, why friend-shaped
steady onyx
question
how many lands in draft
i drafted with my friends
and I put this deck together
but i played 1 game cause all the timr we had
and got mana flooded completely
its 40 card
trail anvil
17 lands is typically the standard
steady onyx
we made a cube to play with
steady onyx
17 lands is typically the standard
i was on 14
;-;
and like all i drew was lands
is that just unlucky
trail anvil
since you have some land cyclers that's probably a bit more forgivable but yeah, that sounds unlucky
trail anvil
1 game is a super small sample size though
steady onyx
fair eno if h
enough
i did find out i love cube tho
now i gotta play ygo cube with oeople
peoplep
lusty trench
"tribe that has received support forever Vs tribe that received support in the last 4 years"
Cats were always gonna win
barren cairn
twilit canyon
oh nonland
still
makes get lost even worse again
i like it honestly
3 mana 3/3 trample and probably a 4/4 at absolute worst with spare maps
eshki seems like a pain to extract value from
zurgo lacks haste tbh
trail anvil
wait it doesn't create it on etb wtf
zurgo really should've had haste
felothar just looks nuts all around if you can do a decent go-wide
I kinda wanna try eshki as a commander
zinc shard
copper pecan
[[villainous wealth]]
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copper pecan
neat
stark skiff
oh cats already won
Jeez both sold out already
sudden lava
Oh hey cards
sudden lava
Love the new lands, and Eshki looking so nice
zinc shard
Card from a SLD got posted early by accident
trail anvil
yep that sure is dragon rooftop storm alright
probably appropriately costed considering how strong dragons are, but I'm sure that's gonna attract all the johnnies and timmies
past socket
Dragon Omniscience-ish time
trail anvil
[[rooftop storm]]
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Enchantment
You may pay 
rather than pay the mana cost for Zombie creature spells you cast.
"Let those idiot priests tremble! A new era in unlife begins here and now. Oglor, raise the lightning vane!" —Stitcher Geralf
trail anvil
fun with [[tiamat]] I'm sure
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sudden lava
[[ebondeath]]
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sudden lava
with anything that lets you sac
its no rooftop storm+ Acererak tho
OH and should go without saying, tiamat as commander also works here with a sac outlet
but thats gonna make the mana tax in the long run VERY expensive so you better be closing out the game with your storm of dragons
trail anvil
I think there are way easier infinite combos than 8 mana rooftop storm and getting this into your graveyard
sudden lava
Like the tiamat combo (which tutors ebondeath, but ebondeath has to be in deck)
its a very cheese card, but 100% better infinite combos exist
gritty nest
would a [[Magda, brazen Outlaw]] deck that runs a bunch of dwarves that say "do random thing, destroy target land" be unfun?
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lusty trench
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/948945646524710942/1351353925067866193/...
Damn zurgo lost muscle
lusty trench
Oh yup the dracogenesis is 1 card lethal in tiamat
Alternatively grap miirym, terror of the peaks and then just high power dragons, play miirym, player terror, get two terrors and slam the high power dragons
golden plover
Card from a SLD got posted early by accident
Not sure how I feel about Jim Crow on a magic card
Feels weird to go out of their way a lot of times to avoid cultural sensitivities and then... Bam 1920s caricature
Like technically the crow alone isn't racist... But it's kinda hard to separate him from that
glad peak
would a [[Magda, brazen Outlaw]] deck that runs a bunch of dwarves that say "do ...
If you can figure out a way to finish out a game with that advantage, no
But people will complain regardless since Magda gonna Magda and because lands are sacred for some reason
rigid scarab
Alternatively grap miirym, terror of the peaks and then just high power dragons,...
We did it everyone, we found a way to accomplish lethal with free spells.
golden plover
Is standard elves real now?
Oh god what did they do to her
This art is bad, but at least the card is good
They just took Vampire Nighthawk out back and shot him
COME ON MAN
No fucking shot they don't ban beanstalk now
Why's it an instant too??
twilit canyon
she's bad 
twilit canyon
this is also rather mid even if it becomes 3 mana draw 3
trail anvil
jesus fuck this set seems pushed already
zinc shard
hidden ermine
Didn't Ugin lose his spark?
subtle sierra
Wtf is with the weird coloring on the keywords
twilit canyon
Didn't Ugin lose his spark?
nope
twilit canyon
Wtf is with the weird coloring on the keywords
i think its highlighting it for new keywords/abilities in the set
shouldnt be how they look in-game
golden plover
this is also rather mid even if it becomes 3 mana draw 3
It's instant speed stock up??
subtle sierra
Thank god they look dogshit
twilit canyon
It's instant speed stock up??
dont worry stock up is also garbage
golden plover
It's pretty fucking good most of the time
zinc shard
golden plover
Stock up is seeing a ton of play rn
twilit canyon
yeah because theres nothing else
golden plover
It's literally the best version of its effect they've ever printed
zinc shard
twilit canyon
stock up is a perfectly serviceable card but its not good
golden plover
I dunno, stock up is pretty fucking good
zinc shard
golden plover
And this one is annoying as hell that it's "6" MV
No shot they don't fucking ban beanstalk now lol
twilit canyon
i thought it was 4 mana and was about to be hyped
zinc shard
trail anvil
4 mana 4/5 with free spell would be ban territory
twilit canyon
reanimator pod
thats not too bad tbh
kotis is ass for sure
yeah
its ass
villanous wealth is good cus it scales
x cost is goated
being a 2/1 for 4?
tough
zinc shard
oh they didnt show the Sultai Dragon card
trail anvil
this is just a voltron commander tbh
trail anvil
flashback with upside whew
trail anvil
tbh I'd want to run the main set betor with this deck just cause of that life halfing ability
zinc shard
twilit canyon
flashback with upside whew
its a solid discount but i wish this was an instant
zinc shard
Yoooo Zurgo
trail anvil
its a solid discount but i wish this was an instant
story of every sorcery tbh
trail anvil
the temur cards look so fun already
zinc shard
Special Guests only tho...
fallow citrus
that scalding tarn is beautiful
trail anvil
bro there's no way this set already isn't gonna sell like crazy
twilit canyon
hope its all 10 as special guests
zinc shard
twilit canyon
that ugin cannot be real
wotc every other set: another 10 eldrazi buffs
zinc shard
Looks like thats it
fallow citrus
wotc every other set: another 10 eldrazi buffs
they simply cannot stop themselves
trail anvil
wotc every other set: another 10 eldrazi buffs
Patrick basketball meme
twilit canyon
they really went "we heard you like devourer so we gave you a better karn liberated"
"what if all your colorless spells had devourer cast trigger?"
trail anvil
I like how the ult is insane on top of everything else too
twilit canyon
its been long enough, time to powercreep karn liberated
fallow citrus
no way tron doesn't get killed in modern with this on the horizons
twilit canyon
zinc shard
WOW
twilit canyon
tron, like prime titan, is eternal
twilit canyon
ik u meant eldrazi
the same p much applies
i dont see them killing the deck
i think ultimately, it'll be allowed for a while
while ugin is def better karn, it can also suffer from the same issues as karn
it has a much higher ceiling and better board control
better ult too
and it ramp
with a static
okay so like
its better in every single way
but
fallow citrus
its better in every single way
twilit canyon
it is still a planeswalker in modern
some decks will eat it on the stack for breakfast
and it isnt a complete nuke to creature decks like spirit dragon is
twilit canyon
nut draw scenario
turn 3 ugin, exile a 2-3 mana thing they have
+0, cast kozilek's command x=1, ugin trigger, exile another thing mv2 or so
command exile mv1 + make a token to defend ugin
or if board clear, draw a card
trail anvil
this thing is gonna plague the brawl ladder 100%
fallow citrus
trail anvil
the more I think about this card the less strong it seems. sure it triggers beans, but there's a solid chance on turn 3 you might not be able to cast this, and if you're paying 4 mana for this then sure it triggers beans but there's probably better stuff to do
it's an instant but even in graveyard decks we have black overlord
trail anvil
she's bad <:icant:1310294700384714813>
also on the other hand legit I think this elspeth might be standard playable. mono white control is like fringe, and not only is she a token doubler but can serve as a finisher and removal in a pinch
either way she's gonna be like $40-50 cause of commander ig lmao
twilit canyon
mono white isnt lacking finishers
and shes not providing raw card advantage outside of the engine
trail anvil
caretaker's is a slow-ass finisher in a meta with monument and zur
the turn she comes down is 2 bodies tho
stark skiff
This ghost fire is fire
stark skiff
These are nice
twilit canyon
the turn she comes down is 2 bodies tho
2 1/1s
stark skiff
FETCHLANDS
Finally the missing ones
stark skiff
Really like both commanders of this one
twilit canyon
what gave you the impression first, that it'd trigger on etb, or twice
steady onyx
when it casts u ecile one and then another trigger for colorless being cast?
is there a diff between cast and etb?
fallow citrus
yes
hidden ermine
Oh thats actually a neat foil
twilit canyon
https://vxtwitter.com/wizards_magic/status/1902047802844188755?t=2_Tp1LZ8MJooBR0...
fucc
fallow citrus
I might have to get the non foils depending on how expensive they are
but the arts alone tempt me
steady onyx
i wanna buy a ghostfire rare
glad peak
I’m sad they have a cycle of cards with “— of the storm” and we haven’t seen dragonstorm’s other famous song
steady onyx
they look vewy coowl
glad peak
Fury of the storm fits in perfectly with a couple khans
Wait we haven’t seen through the fire and flames yet either
subtle sierra
oh wow a foil i'd actually like
this is something
this is a set that will be standard legal, right? i'm very clueless when it comes to mtg sets
glad peak
Yep
subtle sierra
that's nice
glad peak
But remember there’s always a bunch of cards not standard legal
subtle sierra
hopefully this has things i like so that i might consider playing again
steady onyx
theres no colorless commander that can tutor colorless right
and there is no proliferate in colorless roght
sleek ferry
I'm going to say something that some people here aren't going to like
glad peak
I don’t think there is but ugin’s good enough to see play in those decks that you don’t need any of those extra things
sleek ferry
but that UB money let them make a set this crazy
cause this set is fucking crazy bro
This might be the craziest standard set I've ever seen
twilit canyon
ppl who hate ub will hate regardless. ppl who dont care or like it will like it anyways
but i agree this set seems to be going hard
pulsar talon
Cant believe i'm reinstalling arena for this
I was so happy just calling it quits over spiderman and play a better game
fallow citrus
can't have been that big a deal if you're back already
pulsar talon
it really wasnt but my free time is at a premium rn and i would like to clean my backlog this year
steady onyx
im TOATALLY wuiting ygo for magic now
anyone want my ygo collection
2$ u pay shipping
sleek ferry
@twilit canyon voice of victory is kinda nice no? that mobilize 2 on that effect makes it more appealing than its other counterparts
steady onyx
is the elspeth good btw?
fallow citrus
not rly
twilit canyon
<@480437470870110209> voice of victory is kinda nice no? that mobilize 2 on that...
mhm'
glad peak
Voice of victory’s pretty nice, I don’t think the mobilize matters much but people are playing kutzil for the same reason and this is cheaper
twilit canyon
Voice of victory’s pretty nice, I don’t think the mobilize matters much but peop...
yeah literally grand abolisher 2 in a way
better tymna blocker too
glad peak
Maybe I should restart work on my khans remastered cube
fallow citrus
wonder when the next mtgo all access pass is out
trail anvil
whenever you cast a spell, you lose life equal to its mana value
hence why I wasn't scared of this text, but a cool way to balance it
sleek ferry
Voice of victory’s pretty nice, I don’t think the mobilize matters much but peop...
I mean Kutzil is also 1 more mana
trail anvil
5 mana 6/6 flying lifelink goes hard though too
sleek ferry
and the mobilize 2 has some nice relevance even in standard (not even counting the cedh applications in say najeela)
trail anvil
I feel like the draw effect on kutzil is really far from irrelevant
glad peak
I mean Kutzil is also 1 more mana
what i meant is that any cedh that can play kutzil plays it too specifically only for that effect
the draw effect comes up sometimes but it's pretty rare
sleek ferry
yeah, the draw eff is pretty eh in cedh
trail anvil
ah
glad peak
i can't remember the specific wording on [[najeela]], can you make mobilize give you double the tokens?
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Legendary Creature — Human Warrior
Whenever a Warrior attacks, you may have its controller create a 1/1 white Warrior creature token that's tapped and attacking.
: Untap all attacking creatures. They gain trample, lifelink, and haste until end of turn. After this phase, there is an additional combat phase. Activate only during combat.
3/2
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Creature — Human Soldier
During your turn, spells your opponents cast cost 
more to cast and abilities your opponents activate cost more to activate unless they're mana abilities.
Afterlife 1 (When this creature dies, create a 1/1 white and black Spirit creature token with flying.)
2/1
copper pecan
pretty ambitious of them to put 7 new mechanics in the set
i hope this doesn't mean that they won't be very fleshed out
steady onyx
wait can someone edplain this small queston
cast and etb
they obv arent same
but if i card has cast trigger and etb trigger
i assume
cast is firdt?
then etb
lusty trench
My fomo hitting my hard with the dragon commander deck but then I remember dragon decks feel like ass to play and are less interesting eldrazi
zinc shard
When you declare you're casting a spell, the cast trigger will go on the stack and resolve before it enters the battlefield.
golden plover
My fomo hitting my hard with the dragon commander deck but then I remember drago...
Wild thing to say when Eldrazi is already less interesting Eldrazi
lusty trench
It's just kinda cause most dragons are deal damage or draw cards or make treasures
Or the good ones anyway
Whereas eldrazi actually feel like otherworldly things with how odd their effects can get
fallow citrus
cast and etb
when you put smth with a cast trigger on the stack you get the cast trigger then too, you resolve that before the card etbs
then you get the etb
steady onyx
ok
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Dragons making treasure is at least flavourful as hecc
Shoutout to Ganax | Guild Artisan as well 
glad peak
We’re getting a 2 mana 3/1 red mana dork, weird
trail anvil
We’re getting a 2 mana 3/1 red mana dork, weird
with a mode to randomly kill fliers too
glad peak
lol taigam not escaping the turns commander allegations
the devotees and monuments are a good sign for making this draft set good
sudden lava
Im gonna need 2 Taigams
trail anvil
yeah this seems like a nice way to do 3c draft
steady onyx
this is gonna be fun
trail anvil
strategic betrayal seems really interesting, but I feel like there are a lot of disposable creatures rn?
trail anvil
static snare looks like white witchstalker frenzy
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The monuments look so lovely
steady onyx
everything looks so lovely
how much will the ghostflames be!
50? 100? 300? 400+
or do we not know
copper pecan
i assume
cast is firdt?
yes, the cast trigger happens before the spell resolves
twilit canyon
im really liking omen
steady onyx
the adventure but shiffle into deck?
twilit canyon
its been that way for a long time now
twilit canyon
we are just seeing a more balanced way to handle that
trail anvil
3 cards on one card is a command
twilit canyon
i believe they want to avoid more cards like [[cryptic commad]]
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Actually am curious on what the first Double Faced Cards were
trail anvil
i believe they want to avoid more cards like [[cryptic commad]]
do you mean strength wise? cause sublime epiphany wasn't that long ago I feel like
trail anvil
but it's so fun 
twilit canyon
the effects are scaled more properly
even if a card does a lot, its doing it less efficiently than others
ie: the omen ramp is worse than typical 2 mana ramp spells of which we have 1-2 in standard rn
trail anvil
I kinda wished the strixhaven commands were a bit more pushed like prismari was tbh
twilit canyon
but, it is also a 5 drop
trail anvil
but yeah that cycle seems nice
someone mentioned kotis would make a better mutate commander than otrimi, which I can really see
stark skiff
Wow these look like shit
reminds me of those awful IG ones
golden plover
reminds me of those awful IG ones
They're even fully textless like them
Because everyone knows what Aesi, Chulane, and whatever Rhada that is do
Textless.... Godrick?? Does anyone know what this card does?
Wait lemme guess what he does:
Haste?
Celebration - He becomes a 5/5 dragon with flying until EoT?
[[Godrick, Cloaked Reveler]]
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Legendary Creature — Human Noble
Haste
Celebration — As long as two or more nonland permanents entered the battlefield under your control this turn, Goddric is a Dragon with base power and toughness 4/4, flying, and ": Dragons you control get +1/+0 until end of turn." (It loses all other creature types.)
3/3
golden plover
Got the dragon stats wrong and forgot about the fire breathing
But... Not a bad guess
Oh it's all dragons fire breathing? Never would have guessed that lol
copper pecan
textless cards my beloathed
copper pecan
wow fuck the graveyard
stark skiff
Fuck the gy
subtle sierra
Fuck the gy (only in mtg)
trail anvil
honey wake up, another acererak card just dropped
subtle sierra
Is black eating good again?
trail anvil
black always eats good
subtle sierra
True...
subtle sierra
Did we get any good control cards in this
I saw the white 2 drop that's nuts
But that's aggro
trail anvil
I don't think so far, last set was big for control though with [[stock up]]
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trail anvil
and ride's end
trail anvil
ugin you play more in colorless decks to abuse the shit out of that static
exile on cast and draw probably isn't enough for 7 mana in standard I think
subtle sierra
Also ic green got 2 cards that search and place lands
👁️
Only green effect i like
steady onyx
i do like that art
golden plover
Welp that was an underwhelming midweek magic. Everyone is just on burn, since you can kill on like t3
glad peak
We already knew about that combo lol
It’s just a better heartless summonings
What’s more interesting is the sultai commander dragon enabling 4 horsemen and actually having a win condition with it
[[mesmeric orb]] + [[basalt monolith]] to mill yourself, shuffler to bring back everything and trigger commander, and dread return getting back thoracle (assuming your pile hit the end of the deck before the shuffler) or [[glint leaf archdruid]] to take everyone’s lands
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Artifact
This artifact doesn't untap during your untap step.
: Add 
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: Untap this artifact.
trail anvil
trail anvil
it's pretty cool
twilit canyon
this is p nice
trail anvil
ye maelstrom pulse with card selection instead of extra destruction in fringe cases
zinc shard
Welcome back [[Binding of the Old Gods]]
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trail anvil
I have no idea how to judge this card
I do, [[krenko's buzzcrusher]]
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trail anvil
doesn't hit lotus but stuns the land
zinc shard
Giant Plummet
sleek ferry
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How is this not just really good lol
glad peak
it's pretty good, not sure how applicable it is since it's a pretty narrow target for 2 mana
twilit canyon
and not too many counterspell decks that want a 4 mana dragon with kiln fiend strapped onto it
glad peak
2 mana is a lot for a counterspell but it is attached to a threat so maybe it's good enough since it's not a waste against most decks?
oh wait it's an omen, not an adventure
i dislike it a bit more
sleek ferry
There’s already fringe spellslinger decks, they just need a reason to go into red
This is a good start
Oh wait it’s not an adventure
wtf
sleek ferry
Yeah, I thought it was an adventure
sudden lava
yeah it's a new instant/sorcery subtype called omen
last glen
Are there any mechanics that benefit from putting a card back in the deck rather than going to the GY?
glad peak
not that i know of
sleek ferry
Alright I thought about it a bit more and it’s not bad
glad peak
it's fine but it's nowhere near as good as expected
it gets better in a wider card pool but has to compete against a lot of 1 mana and free counters that hit more targets
golden plover
Hmm what if instead of hitting Beanstalk, the next list hits Overlord of the Mistmoors
It doesn't outright kill Domain and instead forces them to either go all in on Zur or run something like Atraxa again
It would kill control, but if they're trying to slap the deck on the wrist, it'd be the hit imo
glad peak
tbh beanstalk is the right hit by almost every metric they care about
the new set has hybrid costs that buff beanstalk, have more mana fixing for 4c control, and beanstalk is a much older card
golden plover
Yeah I think so too, I'm just thinking what if they decide to give a slap on the wrist to overlord piles
I think Beanstalk is the right call 100% of the time
sleek ferry
Hit beanstalk and monstrous rage and the format is better off probably
golden plover
But I can see them hitting Mistmoors, or if they wanna be real lame, hit Zur
glad peak
financially beanstalk getting hit is better because of packs too
golden plover
Remember when they did that in Kamigawa? Hit Fable like a month before rotation lmao
Could do that with Zur, but I think that'd be really stupid
golden plover
Hit beanstalk and monstrous rage and the format is better off probably
For sure, Turn Inside Out would be the replacement in aggro and that doesn't give trample
golden plover
Best to worst banlist hits:
-Beanstalk and Rage is the best
-Just Beanstalk is totally fine too
-Just Rage is a terrible idea, makes it into a t0 format
-Mistmoors would be a funny hit
-Zur would be a terrible hit
Anything outside of that doesn't feel realistic
sleek ferry
Best to worst banlist hits:
-Beanstalk and Rage is the best
-Just Beanstalk is t...
Disagree hard on this. If rage is gone, it opens the game up a bit, because you don’t have to overprep for aggro. It would take a lot for us to ever get a t0 standard meta again
Sheoldred’s reign of terror wasn’t t0, izzet dragons wasn’t t0
golden plover
Actually yeah you're kinda right. Decks only look the way they do rn because of aggro, and it's what makes domain so good
Domain would be best deck still if aggro loses rage
So domain has to lose beanstalk too
But the format would open up more if aggro couldn't t3 kill you randomly
twilit canyon
we dont need to hit anything right now honestly
this would be hitting just to hit cards and shake up the meta just because
golden plover
There's a list at the end of the month
And I feel like beanstalk has to go if nothing else
Especially because of the twobrid mana thing they're doing in Tarkir
twilit canyon
theres a list but there doesnt has to be changes at the end of the month
not for standard at least
glad peak
Inb4 beanstalk is gone everywhere except standard
twilit canyon
golden plover
Beanstalk has already been a problem forever
twilit canyon
standard is the place it is abused the least probably
maybe legacy if only cus beans in legacy is weird
glad peak
Yeah, legacy beanstalk is
golden plover
But if any of the twobrid cards are good (the Sultai one looks like it slots right in), it's gotta go
twilit canyon
none of the hybrid cards are all that
glad peak
The sultai one is pretty good
twilit canyon
yeah you can pay 2 mana and then 3 mana to draw total 4 cards and progress nothing towards the board state
golden plover
The Sultai one lets Domain play Stock Up at instant speed basically
twilit canyon
domain mana is not built to cast sultai at 3
glad peak
Wouldn’t say it’s great but it’s fine in decks that are running stock up currently
twilit canyon
and you are not adjusting to 3 mana stock up at instant speed when you could play overlord instead
golden plover
I wouldn't be surprised to see them running it
twilit canyon
me neither but it wouldnt be great
golden plover
But twobrid is a theme for this draft
So a lot of cards that should cost 3 will have an MV of 6
Which will mean more shit that proccs Beanstalk
twilit canyon
yeah so?
i highly doubt we'll see anything truly worth running compared to what we have now
between ride's end, leyline binding, overlords
maybe the sultai one is enough for some greedy decks
golden plover
I dunno, I just think beanstalk definitely needs to go. Cannot see it making it to 2027
golden plover
Damn, wish that was in the main set
Marginally playable?
Oh wait it's a "may"
Nevermind this card sucks
fallow citrus
would it be better if it was june
golden plover
Actually, most modern wheels have been "may" effects. Is that Narset's fault lol
trail anvil
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1125148508920479744/1351979616784486480...
this is so fun
spelljack dragon
sudden lava
alternate use for tempest technique, Eriette mass stealing your creatures by teaching them ethereal armor
glad peak
Will of the jeskai is very interesting
Both alone wouldn’t be good even at a lower cost but together?
People are just calling it jeskai’s will lmao
past socket
Fair lol. Adaptive Training Post sounds super fun
golden plover
Will of the jeskai is very interesting
I like it. I just wish it wasn't a "may"
Since the opponent will only wheel if it helps them
glad peak
I think it’s fine that’s it’s a may especially in a turbo deck
golden plover
Yeah, and luckily it should give everything you wheeled flash, right?
glad peak
Yep
I like it in Mardu turbo decks
I wish I could play it in krark tymna but flashback is a no go for that deck
Speaking of, krark tymna is a sick deck, I love it
zinc shard
im surprised they didnt reprint [[Hinata]] , since the deck has some cards that care about multiple targets
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Legendary Creature — Kirin Spirit
Flying, trample
Spells you cast cost less to cast for each target.
Spells your opponents cast cost more to cast for each target.
Hope races on sunlit hooves.
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copper pecan
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stark skiff
Also new Rat Colony
Ooo where
stark skiff
New Secret Lair "Garden Buds" sold March 24th at 9 AM Pacific
These SLD not doing it for me smh
rigid scarab
alternate use for tempest technique, Eriette mass stealing your creatures by tea...
Tempest Technique needs to enchant creaturess you control
golden plover
the new surrak kills everyone if bowmasters targets it lmao
Oh my God you're right. It kills you if Bowmasters targets it lol
glad peak
(it doesn't kill everyone but close enough since you die lol)
sudden lava
Tempest Technique needs to enchant creaturess you control
oh mb
glad peak
oh shit
pulsar talon
trail anvil
hell fuckin yeah brother
trail anvil
3/3 deathtouch is a meaty body
potentially being cheaper from gy sounds nuts with this
zinc shard
Rare Land cycle
golden plover
Honestly I'm eyeing harmonize as a sleeper busted mechanic
subtle sierra
👁️
golden plover
Actually I'd go as far as to say any instant with harmonize that isn't a counterspell would see constructed play
glad peak
i mean, probably
keeps your options open and is great for using resources that wouldn't otherwise be used
golden plover
If they're smart, they're all sorceries
But I can see them accidentally making one an instant
glad peak
even a combat trick would be very good
golden plover
Yeah if you can hold the "mana" for it
sudden lava
Im guessing all the precons will have a "will of" card
glad peak
[[patchwork beastie]]
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glad peak
i'm not sure tbh
twilit canyon
Rare Land cycle
the weakest is the white land fors ure
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golden plover
Sultai Reanimator/Omniscience?
Tolarian Terror is another option
I dunno what the shell of this deck looks like
But I think harmonize is sleeper busted
sudden lava
WAIT YOU DONT HAVE TO TAP A CREATURE
yeah you can just pay the full price if you dont wanna tap
golden plover
Yeah so the floor is just flashback
hidden ermine
That cycle doesnt look very even in terms of balance tbh
Surely red is just far and away the best one?
Wait the black one only exiles from your graveyard?
copper pecan
they don't do cards that exile things from your opponent's graveyard as a cost
also i feel like you're overrating the red one
5 mana is a lot just to impulse 1
the blue one seems much stronger imo
hidden ermine
Blue is the other one that seems good yeah
The rest seem mediocre to bad
Idk, the red one feels like its just inevitability
copper pecan
it's too costly for what it does
i think all of these except for the green one are at least decent
actually maybe the green one is okay too
[[castle vantress]] saw play in standard so it's not out of the question that this also could
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Land
This land enters tapped unless you control an Island.
: Add .
, : Scry 2.
Without Vantress's knowledge, the realm would lose itself in darkness.
twilit canyon
surveil 2 is stronger than scry 2. exile from your gy gets massive value with ketramose and insidious roots. cant be countered is of course good, and the red impulse is solid advantage.
twilit canyon
talk about an early concession
zinc shard
not pictured is a discounted Thunder Junction pack
golden plover
So I'm goldfishing Elsha lines and had something I've never seen happen before come up. Played [[Intuition]] but we've got one of the 3 in hand (breach, top, sevinne's reclamation). What do we take here? Flooting?
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golden plover
If top is the one in hand you just show helm
But I drew breach before intuition which makes the line... Weird
glad peak
Do you run LED?
You can fetch LED and 2 interaction spells and if you can land breach you win
zinc shard
https://moxfield.com/decks/Xt8pST5cMkiPiBYtgeJL6g
Any thoughts on this deck? Trying to keep it under $100
trail anvil
[[$shardmage's rescue]]
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trail anvil
I feel like you want this in any lightpaws deck
trail anvil
man locals tonight was not it, 2 slow storm players into stax 😭
golden plover
You can fetch LED and 2 interaction spells and if you can land breach you win
Oh duh. I think I had already used LED that time, but that's usually the fetch too
glad peak
How much are the enchantments that you can activate to put back in your hand?
twilit canyon
hello village rites but worse
ig it can have some use as a removal spell
but its really not great tbh
golden plover
It's better than village rites
It takes their guy or draws you two
Or you sacc something that's gonna die anyways in the swing
It's a removal spell and a combat trick
With draw 2 stapled on
That shits GOOD
- Kill their 1/1
- Kill your 1/1 and draw 2
- Kill your guy in a swing and draw 2
- Kill your token that's gonna die anyways and draw 2
- Target your guy with a village rites and draw 4
The versatility of this is kinda wacky
Also notably standard legal with bloodghast
I think you take it every time in limited ngl
twilit canyon
nah
look at it this way, its an instant speed one time skullclamp
the ceiling is fine
golden plover
Yeah, and skullclamp was fucked in limited and standard
It's also a combat trick and a removal spell
twilit canyon
but the issue is that you really are just paying 1 black for an instant speed skullclamp effect once
thats not ideal
it makes no permanent progress in the game unless its used to kill an x/1
golden plover
The floor is that you pick off a 1/1 or a damaged creature
But it's also a combat trick or kills one of your mobilize tokens
twilit canyon
in limited, or constructed, this effect is often just one u dont want to have to enable in other ways
theres a reason sacrifice decks fall off really fast once metas develop
golden plover
A deck running this would have ways to enable it
twilit canyon
or they never stick
and its because a lot of their cards fall apart in quality when they have nothing else to do
golden plover
Also consider you can flash it in in response to a kill spell on your guy
You +1 off their kill spell
twilit canyon
in this card's case, imagine you dont have an x/1 of your own
golden plover
This card is super versatile
twilit canyon
Also consider you can flash it in in response to a kill spell on your guy
thats not a good play
it also highly depends on your target
unlike village rites
or corrupted conviction
ie: your opponent torch the towers an x/3
golden plover
If they're gonna kill your guy anyways no reason not to throw this on him on the stack
twilit canyon
you give it +1/-1
golden plover
I think you're undervaluing the insane amount of versatility here
twilit canyon
you dont draw, and you go down a card
yeah bc that versatility has a limit
its versatile but all its options are pretty whatever
rest of the cycle seems to be out
this one is neat
nothing insane but its a ton of value options
shuffling back removal for mv 3 or less at 2 mana is good value
they are all quite neat
nothing that crazy
zinc shard
twilit canyon
draft chaff mythic
it feels like they added a 3 instead of a 2
hell
a 1
would have still been likely mid
golden plover
Deflecting Palm, but it also draws you that many
This card is GREAT in limited
Found the card getting a day 0 errata
trail anvil
why's that
zinc shard
If you have a way to untap it and make infinite black mana you can make infinity 0/0 spirits, but that's a lot of hoops to jump through
golden plover
why's that
X can be 0 rn. They typically avoid letting you do that with tokens on X for death triggers
I'm like 50/50 on if it actually gets it, but it's in line with other cards that can do the same thing getting them
zinc shard
I think it's fine, you have to tap it.
trail anvil
yeah tapping seems like enough
golden plover
Yeah, that limits it enough it's not broken
It's just consistent with other token effects of its kind it gets one
trail anvil
and you have to always pay 1 mana
golden plover
I don't think it will tho
Good limited card tho
Oh wait his flavor text is misspelled
The character in the Abzan side story was "Cemil" not "Cemal"
trail anvil
maybe it was updated during development and they forgot to change it
golden plover
Most likely yeah
glad peak
Sultai shadow waddup
glad peak
that's uh
huh
i really like that card even if it's very expensive
will of the mardu and within range being alt win cons for najeela tempo is interesting
people were running the 3 or 4 mana card that buffs by 1 and etb deal 1 to player enchantment for a bit and these are probably better
sudden lava
Infantry + cactuar meme here
But realistically, I may throw infantry shield into the Limit Break precon
trail anvil
gaining 3 life is also really nice rn
the other 2 modes are also potentially super nice
glad peak
this set is giving so many cool cube cards
glad peak
this is pretty amazing in sealed but idk if i want it in cube, might be too overwhelming?
rigid scarab
||”I’m siding out my Anger of the Gods. I thought Jamin was going to be on Pack Rats and I haven’t seen it for two games.”||
||”So for game 3 I’m going to be siding in 3 copies of Pack Rats!”||
glad peak
yep, sounds like a magic game to me
zinc shard
trail anvil
this feels like clash of wills x stubborn denial
past socket
OOO like [[Aether Spike]]
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Instant
Choose target spell. You get 
(two energy counters), then you may pay any amount of . Counter that spell unless its controller pays for each paid this way.
"The shield doesn't block the fire physically. It tells the fire to stop." —Genku, future shaper
past socket
Ended getting a really foil retro when I bought the Satya precon from the pack
glad peak
damn, if you hit the condition of stub you get a force spike
zinc shard
Secret Lair: Tragic Romance
past socket
Angel of Despair art I quite like
trail anvil
this art is pretty sick
stark skiff
Secret Lair: Tragic Romance
Wow this is nice
golden plover
This feels unironically playable? It's like baby spellseeker for standard
lusty trench
Relevant creature type protection too
golden plover
True
sudden lava
[[strip mine]]
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Land
: Add .
, Sacrifice this land: Destroy target land.
Unlike previous conflicts, the war between Urza and Mishra made Dominaria itself a casualty of war.
sudden lava
Trade in your tokens for their lands
subtle sierra
Wouldn't the tokens not become a land tho
So unless they become land some other way
Or does mtg not work that way?
golden plover
Damn, powercrept [[Return to Nature]]
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golden plover
zinc shard
All my creatures are now [[Maze of Ith]]. Good luck
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Land
: Untap target attacking creature. Prevent all combat damage that would be dealt to and dealt by that creature this turn.
fallow citrus
hm
if you exile a fetch and have a way to recur tokens you can grab every land in your deck
doesn't really break cedh
golden plover
I was thinking turn everything into bazaar of Baghdad
glad peak
Doesn’t need to break cedh but it’s an instant card for rogthras
golden plover
But I'm not sure what deck in green wants a board of bazaars
glad peak
They always want more cards that have the effect to make creatures mana dorks
[[gaea’s cradle]]
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Legendary Land
: Add for each creature you control.
"Here sprouted the first seedling of Argoth. Here the last tree will fall." —Gamelen, Citanul elder
golden plover
Oh true
golden plover
[[gaea’s cradle]] <:KEKW:622347587516628993>
Even better, [[Strip Mine]]
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Land
: Add .
, Sacrifice this land: Destroy target land.
Unlike previous conflicts, the war between Urza and Mishra made Dominaria itself a casualty of war.
glad peak
I wouldn’t count of them going out of their way to include other lands that aren’t already in the deck for this card tbh
golden plover
Fair, but strip mine doesn't hurt to run
copper pecan
yeah strip mine is a fine card on its own
golden plover
Most cedh decks run one as is
steady onyx
it looks sick
twilit canyon
this quote truly lifes my loam stupid style
zinc shard
Goddamn is this overpriced
golden plover
You draw like 12 cards usually
trail anvil
I think I need that sultai deck badly damn
trail anvil
value aside I'm obsessed with graveyard decks and this is certainly one of them
sudden lava
Or does mtg not work that way?
"sac this land" just means sac this permanent
zinc shard
steady onyx
commander
wait so not in standard p
😭
i wanted to play like agatha soul cauldron deck
glad peak
Why would you want loam in standard 
sleek ferry
Was this posted?
sudden lava
Was this posted?
Yes, when you posted it 🙂
twilit canyon
Was this posted?
nope. but its pretty sick. like a hybrid dha
golden plover
Was this posted?
Something Something good in Isshin
copper pecan
X
subtle sierra
twilit canyon
"its called ponza cus i was hungry"
glad peak
“It’s called deadguy ale because I like beer”
“It’s called full English breakfast because I like breakfast and I can have anything I want”
golden plover
I feel like decks don't get fun names like that much now
Scam is kinda the only recent one?
past socket
Taking the steps of making a Commander deck from scratch for the first time, down for any recommendations on Jeskai Commanders . (Partly got having a bunch of Islands, Plains and Mountains already around for other update stuff and also just really vibing with the colour combo.) Will happily look at whatever since beggars can’t be choosers though very much like strategies similar to [[Satya]] & [[Tetzin]] , the two that got me into Jeskai in the first place.
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Legendary Creature — Human Artificer
Menace, haste
Whenever Satya attacks, create a tapped and attacking token that's a copy of up to one other target nontoken creature you control. You get (two energy counters). At the beginning of the next end step, sacrifice that token unless you pay an amount of equal to its mana value.
3/5
Legendary Artifact Creature — Gnome
Whenever Tetzin or another double-faced artifact you control enters, mill three cards. You may put an artifact card from among them into your hand.
Craft with six artifacts 
(, Exile this artifact, Exile the six from among other permanents you control and/or cards from your graveyard: Return this card transformed under its owner's control. Craft only as a sorcery.)
2/2
The Golden-Gear Colossus
Legendary Artifact Creature — Gnome
Vigilance, trample
Whenever The Golden-Gear Colossus enters or attacks, transform up to one other target double-faced artifact you control. Create two 1/1 colorless Gnome artifact creature tokens.
The sum is greater than the parts.
6/6
trail anvil
[[narset, enlightened exile]] is a very typical jeskai commander
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trail anvil
as for commanders that have that playstyle, I feel like that's more common in other colors but I could be wrong
golden plover
Taking the steps of making a Commander deck from scratch for the first time, dow...
My personal favorite is [[Elsha of the Infinite]]
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golden plover
She's the most Jeskai ass Jeskai commander
past socket
Also the new Elsha seems pretty neat too [[Elsha, Threefold Master]]
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sudden lava
She's the most Jeskai ass Jeskai commander
you say when Narset exists
golden plover
Yeah but she's not as cool
And Elsha has the easy win button
[[Sensei's Divining Top]] and [[Helm of Awakening]]
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: Draw a card, then put this artifact on top of its owner's library.
Artifact
Spells cost less to cast.
"This little prize will cover your head, your spells, your bets, and your behind!" —Pashad ibn Asim, Suq'Ata trader
past socket
Giving Artifacts, Enchantments or Sprceries Instant speed sounds extremely funny
Well one’s on top of your deck anyways
golden plover
There's a lot of things you can do with her
But top lets you stack the deck
So you're always getting what you want
And with Helm it's free to draw your deck
trail anvil
golden plover
Not bad
Mardu/Jund mid is looking realer by the day
AND HE SURVIVES NOWHERE TO RUN
zinc shard
golden plover
Hello siege rhino 2
copper pecan
idk i feel like 5 mana is a lot for something like this
might see play when the overlords rotate
golden plover
I think he's good for limited but nowhere else
past socket
But yeah will keep Elsha in mind! Got a lot of different suggestions. I imagine you could go about her in so many ways but defo understand Top being a must include no matter what
lusty trench
When is the temur deck reveal?
past socket
From Elsha to Arthur, to Jeskai Kykar to Jeskai Aragorn to even Zedruu
sudden lava
When is the temur deck reveal?
twilit canyon
idk i feel like 5 mana is a lot for something like this
this would have been good like 15 years ago
lusty trench
25? Bruh
I just want to know if it's worth preordering so I can dodge the people buying it up in mass
twilit canyon
you and every commander player
imo though, no
there are really no precons worth buying anymore
just on the principle of their price
golden plover
The Sultai one at least breaks a bit past even
golden plover
And the Aetherdrift Esper one was better than even also
twilit canyon
and then build the deck yourself it'll 100% be cheaper
golden plover
But most don't technically break even
sudden lava
Still waiting on the turtle spell in the set, the "dragon wincon", and the card that can tutor 1 of 2 different cards
golden plover
Wait... Is it finally the time for Jund midrange
Throw all the good new black stuff in here
And we can do some damage
twilit canyon
we have a functional new vengevine and you called it midrange
ghast was just not worth unfort
golden plover
I mean, the idea is that if we don't see the vengevine line we're doing "midrange" shit
golden plover
Ghast isn't worth it in the Gruul build
golden plover
But I think this deck gets a lot of new support in Tarkir
Avenger of the Fallen and the red threshold 3 drop probably help a ton
Oh... This is just a weird aggro slant lol
twilit canyon
its
yea lol
you are intentionally going above the regular aggro
but not deep into midrange to be worth it
golden plover
I guess we get to sideboard Sheoldred?
That's "midrange"
But I do think with the new cards, there's some big potential for explosive turns
And since we're running mobilize tokens and because it's an insane card we probably run the skullclamp instant
lusty trench
just on the principle of their price
Usually I'm lucky in that I get the sought after decks for retail but yeah... The only dragons really worth getting right now are like... Goldspan, Terror of the peaks and tiamat. The rest are just kinda big dumb Timmy cards and you can just sub in budget options.
golden plover
We also probably run Tersa in there
twilit canyon
And since we're running mobilize tokens ~~and because it's an insane card~~ we p...
dont
golden plover
She's like slightly bigger fomo
golden plover
I dunno, I'm expecting that card to play better than expected
twilit canyon
at that point, its not midrange at all and its going to feel awful to draw them
golden plover
But it's an easy cut if we don't settle on it
Yeah calling this Jund Midrange was a lie whoops
Other issue is what does this deck do if it can't see the graveyard?
twilit canyon
lose
golden plover
I guess you're still beating them to death with a lot of hasty guys?
It can play no graveyard better than Roots at least
twilit canyon
3 mana 4/2s and 2 mana 2/2s are not where i'd wanna be
yeah but roots is pretty bad too
golden plover
Since roots cannot play without its grave at all
Roots is unplayable but everyone tries to make it work every set
I guess we've got access to pawpatch in the side?
It's not enough but we bring it in in g2-3 if they have graveyard hate
zinc shard
I just want to know if it's worth preordering so I can dodge the people buying i...
Its a dragon deck. it's gonna be expensive
lusty trench
My thoughts is like is it gonna be modern horizons eldrazi or commander masters eldrazi you know?
zinc shard
Secret Lair: Twisted Toons
golden plover
Outside of the racist fatal push these are all pretty cool
And they're all fairly decent cards
zinc shard
stark skiff
there are really no precons worth buying anymore
Agreed 100%
stark skiff
Secret Lair: Twisted Toons
Yo these are sick wtf
past socket
Makes me glad of doing my first attempt at making a deck from scratch
lusty trench
Y'all seen the sticker secret lair?
twilit canyon
fuck
golden plover
I just don't vibe with the new Sultai zombies
twilit canyon
i hate commander i hate commander i hate commander i hate commander
golden plover
I get that they didn't wanna do zombie slavery anymore
twilit canyon
i was hoping he was in standard
golden plover
But like... The new aesthetic doesn't fit
lusty trench
I think the reason I'm not huge on it is the posing?
Very stiff but idk if that's by design cause zombie
golden plover
Yeah that's just kinda what Sultai zombies look like now
lusty trench
Damn the sultai precon kinda has spice
I like how so far there's like
Maybe 2 dragon cards I'd consider good in the set
For tribal I mean
Like these are the timmiest cards I've ever seen and I play eldrazi
First one is like closest to being good
trail anvil
I keep pronouncing "yathan" like "yaythan" in my head
lusty trench
Oh apparently the artist for the sticker secret lair got caught tracing another piece of artwork they did
glad peak
Have a chaos draft soon, gonna probably do mom, ktk, and war
Maybe eld or 5th edition?
stark skiff
Oh apparently the artist for the sticker secret lair got caught tracing another ...
Which is the sticker one?
trail anvil
@stark skiff
https://www.reddit.com/r/MarvelSnap/comments/1hkuj07/rian_gonzales_variants_might_be_in_danger/ tracing accusation
lusty trench
Ty was struggling to find it
glad peak
Found conspiracy, I’m getting packs for those