Magic the Gathering

[sleek ferry]

Look at Yugioh, my 8 negate board is annoying, but never gets shitted on as much as me flipping a single skill drain

Despite them both being oppressive in different ways

[golden plover]

I think it's the misconception that the Stax deck doesn't take as much skill to pilot as the combo deck

Combo is definitely harder at the end of the day, but it's not like the stax player can just drop every card on turn

[proud shore]

is there any way i can like, give my opponent tokens that deal damage?

[golden plover]

It's a bit different in Yu-Gi-Oh, where skill drain really doesn't take any effort to just go "oh yeah btw you lose"

But especially in edh, you're playing against 3 players as the stax deck

You've gotta make sure you lock all 3 out of the game

[proud shore]

im tempted to play a blue white deck, but also i feel like id start a 3v1

[lusty trench]

Stax has the talking element to it because you have to convince people that while they're annoyed by the stax piece, they're the only thing stopping the combo player from winning

[subtle sierra]

I just had to mulligan to 3

I fucking hate lands

All the other hands had 0-1 lands

One had no plains

[golden plover]

I love running 20 lands and seeing 0

[subtle sierra]

I run 26

[glad peak]

In what format?

[subtle sierra]

Standart

[glad peak]

26 in standard is oof, 26 in commander is pepega

[twilit canyon]

26 is sometimes low in standard

[sleek ferry]

27 lands was the norm pre rotation, but depends a lot on your curve, what colors you're in etc

[fallow citrus]

this may be the whitest white card to ever white

white mana, white rules box, white frame, white art

[golden plover]

Unban her in commander, cowards

[rigid scarab]

I've been hearing that nowadays is like

A really good time to get into standard

[sudden lava]

Other Beholder SL

[sleek ferry]

Standard has been good for a while, but if you love deck diversity in your format standard is real nice rn

[rigid scarab]

I heard it's also affordable rn

ig I'd need to find like

A scene in my locals that actually supports 1v1

[golden plover]

Lair is hard carried by Snuff Out

Overall pretty mid

[sleek ferry]

I really despise rottenmouth viper

[fallow citrus]

not watched it yet but based on it being a cardmarket video it'll be good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5MdiuevZJA

[trail anvil]

this card feels like a highroll to me. when it's really good it's insanely good, when it's bad it's really bad

ofc the ceiling being attacking with it after landing it and the basement being sacrificing your whole board then eating a removal spell

[sleek ferry]

sigh komi, you never faced the combo I see

[trail anvil]

sure, what's the combo

[sleek ferry]

[[calamity galloping inferno]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/otj/116/calamity-galloping-inferno

Calamity, Galloping Inferno <:mana4:292901508712890379><:manar:292901508796645397><:manar:292901508796645397>

Legendary Creature — Horse Mount
Haste
Whenever Calamity, Galloping Inferno attacks while saddled, choose a nonlegendary creature that saddled it this turn and create a tapped and attacking token that's a copy of it. Sacrifice that token at the beginning of the next end step. Repeat this process once.
Saddle 1
4/6

[trail anvil]

is this with push//pull or smuggler's surprise jund

[sleek ferry]

you run, Greedy Freebooter, charming scoundrel and the such, get rottenmouth down on 3 and yeah you can use push and pull or the artifact that revives from the gy

i think push and pull is a little more cope though imo, but if you resolve it then yeah you won the game

[copper pecan]

https://x.com/MTG_Arena/status/1824136879379304743

MTG Arena (@MTG_Arena) on X

Awwwwwwe 🥰

Twitter · Aug 15, 2024, 5:31 PM

[sleek ferry]

there's also the black talents that you run

whose name escapes me atm

[twilit canyon]

this is insane

[sleek ferry]

oh I love Radiant Swan

[trail anvil]

"if this creature is named awestruck cygnet" is a fun effect text

[golden plover]

This thing's text is so wacky. Had to read it like 3 times to understand it

[twilit canyon]

its worded this way so that mockingbird doesnt immediately destroy the game with it lol

[golden plover]

Now that I finally get how this card works, it feels... Bad?

It probably plays a bit stronger than it reads

But it feels bad

[copper pecan]

idk it seems really strong to me

like this is a 5/4 flier as early as turn 2

[golden plover]

How on t2?

It needs to see 3 fliers enter

It's not a flier itself

[copper pecan]

oh wait i misread it

turn 3 then

[golden plover]

Like I guess you can do it t2 with 3 ornithopters

[twilit canyon]

t1 this t2 ornithopter + 2 mockingbirds

its fat

[golden plover]

That feels very magical Christmas land for a single 5/4 flier

The only formats with ornithopter in them aren't slow enough for this to be any good

[sleek ferry]

[[radiant swan]]

[lost widget]

No card found for “radiant swan”

[sleek ferry]

oh wait, I was thinking of [[salvation swan]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/blb/28/salvation-swan

Salvation Swan <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Creature — Bird Cleric
Flash
Flying
Whenever Salvation Swan or another Bird you control enters, exile up to one target creature you control without flying. Return it to the battlefield under its owner's control with a flying counter on it at the beginning of the next end step.
3/3

[sleek ferry]

nvm I'm much less excited now

[golden plover]

Yeah nah I think this card is dogshit

Especially in the limited

[twilit canyon]

you only need to enable the 1st one

[golden plover]

I'm aware

[twilit canyon]

every single other one is a 5/4 flyer

[sleek ferry]

yeah, I would probably agree, I don't think a 5/4 vanilla is great

[golden plover]

Still needs to survive and see 2 other fliers

[twilit canyon]

thats still insane pressure to have available

[golden plover]

I'm thinking of it like a legends of Runeterra champion

[sleek ferry]

especially in a world where we got so many solid 1 drops in BLB

[twilit canyon]

there isnt tho

[golden plover]

And in that context, this feels unplayable

[twilit canyon]

the 1 drop quality has been extremely bad

[copper pecan]

even worst case scenario this is still a 2/1 for 1 which isn't bad

[twilit canyon]

the meta for blb has been super slanted towards midrange and control

[golden plover]

Yeah but there's better Savannah lions

[twilit canyon]

because the 1 drops have been pretty mid/bad

[twilit canyon]

not really?

[golden plover]

The WOE mouse isn't seeing any play

[twilit canyon]

theres not many savannah lions that turn into 5/4 flyers

for playing cards you already want to play

[golden plover]

I think I'd almost always want to play [[Cheeky House-Mouse]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/woe/7/cheeky-house-mouse-squeak-by

Cheeky House-Mouse <:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Creature — Mouse
"Get back here, vile rodent! I was almost done cursing that ring!"
2/1

Squeak By
Sorcery — Adventure
Target creature you control gets +1/+1 until end of turn. It can't be blocked by creatures with power 3 or greater this turn.

[twilit canyon]

itd be one thing if it didnt perform super well with mockingbird

this card doesnt become a 5/4 flyer that then turns all future mice into 5/4 flyers for 1

[trail anvil]

what other cards would you run in azorius flyers

[golden plover]

Yeah, but realistically, does this one either?

I don't think this guy survives enough to flip in most contexts

He's probably killed on sight if you're really worried of a 5/4 flier

It's either a deckbuilding restriction (playing enough fliers) or he never flips imo

[twilit canyon]

theres no good 1 mana removal spells in alchemy anymore

the only one is dead weight

and thats a sorcery

and seldom played

[golden plover]

Realistically, I can't see him flipping any turn before 4-5

[twilit canyon]

and you'd play it with some existing good flyers

mockingbird is one

[golden plover]

And if your payoff for playing a flier for turn for 3 turns is a single 5/4 flier, you're losing

[twilit canyon]

thopterist exists as well creating bigger ornithopter

[golden plover]

[[Emporium Thopterist]]?

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/ymkm/5/emporium-thopterist

Emporium Thopterist <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338>

Creature — Vedalken Artificer
Thopters you control get +2/+0.
At the beginning of your upkeep, conjure a card named Ornithopter into your hand.
1/1

[golden plover]

This feels bad

What deck is playing t1 Savannah lions into T2 vanilla 1/1 for the eventual payoff of a 5/4 flier

[twilit canyon]

theres aready multiple solid cards available for this deck type

if you want to go in on aggressiveness, theres [[duelist of the mind]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/otj/45/duelist-of-the-mind

Duelist of the Mind <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338>

Creature — Human Advisor
Flying, vigilance
Duelist of the Mind's power is equal to the number of cards you've drawn this turn.
Whenever you commit a crime, you may draw a card. If you do, discard a card. This ability triggers only once each turn.
Nathan Steuer, World Champion XXVIII
*/3

[twilit canyon]

[[spyglass siren]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/lci/78/spyglass-siren

Spyglass Siren <:manau:292901508754702338>

Creature — Siren Pirate
Flying
When Spyglass Siren enters, create a Map token. (It's an artifact with ", , Sacrifice this artifact: Target creature you control explores. Activate only as a sorcery.")
1/1

[twilit canyon]

if u want a more laid-back control type shell theres [[aven interceptor]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/otj/4/es/interceptor-aven

Interceptor aven <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Criatura — Bribón ave
Destello.
Vuela.
Cuando el Interceptor aven entre al campo de batalla, exilia el hechizo objetivo. Se trama. (Su propietario puede lanzarlo como un conjuro en un turno posterior sin pagar su coste de maná.)
A tus oponentes les cuesta más lanzar hechizos desde cementerios o desde el exilio.
2/2

[twilit canyon]

even outside of blue/white

[trail anvil]

why did it pull the Spanish one lol

[twilit canyon]

[[deep-cavern bat]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/lci/102/deep-cavern-bat

Deep-Cavern Bat <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manab:292901508872273920>

Creature — Bat
Flying, lifelink
When Deep-Cavern Bat enters, look at target opponent's hand. You may exile a nonland card from it until Deep-Cavern Bat leaves the battlefield.
The first shriek locates the prey. The second immobilizes it.
1/1

[trail anvil]

oh interruptor is the English name

[twilit canyon]

[[darkstar augur]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/blb/90/darkstar-augur

Darkstar Augur <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manab:292901508872273920>

Creature — Bat Warlock
Offspring (You may pay an additional as you cast this spell. If you do, when this creature enters, create a 1/1 token copy of it.)
Flying
At the beginning of your upkeep, reveal the top card of your library and put that card into your hand. You lose life equal to its mana value.
2/3

[twilit canyon]

aclazotz

alchemy rankle

[[rankle pitiless trickster]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/yotj/11/rankle-pitiless-trickster

Rankle, Pitiless Trickster <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Creature — Faerie Rogue
Flying
Rankle has lifelink and haste as long as an opponent controls no creatures.
When Rankle enters, you may pay 1 life. When you do, each player discards a card and sacrifices a creature.
Whenever a player discards a card, Rankle perpetually gets +1/+0.
1/3

[twilit canyon]

aurelia's vindicator and archangel of tithes

[[praerie survivalist]] can also work in a more aggressive shell

[copper pecan]

you are wrong about this, thopterist is really good

getting a 2/2 every turn is strong

[lusty trench]

Brawl kinda fun

[copper pecan]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/636013795507961892/1273771234148225056/IMG_8066.png?ex=66bfd367&is=66be81e7&hm=e86f426d13a6a353d0b16cf541aa75b63a5641a76d5d6efd06156e731abf96aa&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=481&height=662

[twilit canyon]

kinda good ngl

[lusty trench]

That’s a lot of advantage damn

[twilit canyon]

[[sunscorched desert]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/akh/249/sunscorched-desert

Sunscorched Desert

Land — Desert
When Sunscorched Desert enters, it deals 1 damage to target player or planeswalker.
: Add .
The only relief in sight is a mirage.

[twilit canyon]

uep

[copper pecan]

so does this make 3 deserts per player or 3 in total

[fallow citrus]

3 per I think

[twilit canyon]

gut feeling is each player makes 3 deserts

[trail anvil]

can't you brick your opponent's draws with this? I imagine if you're running a card like this you actually want the deserts and you get the draw as well

[golden plover]

I think that's technically the intent

[trail anvil]

also if you flicker it does it become 6/10 guaranteed?

or does it choose among the 10 cards again so it could hit zero

[golden plover]

Also.. that feels weirdly small for a calamity beast

2/4 for 3 is a very small beast

[lusty trench]

It's one less power than the wolf

[trail anvil]

still funny to me that repel calamity does not indeed repel all the calamity beasts

[lusty trench]

Does it not?

It hits eluge, lumra, maha, ygra, lynx, this, the elk and the boar

And dragon hawk if you count that but I don't

[trail anvil]

the wolf and this no?

[[repel calamity]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/blb/27/repel-calamity

Repel Calamity <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Instant
Destroy target creature with power or toughness 4 or greater.
The living seasons come to grow, to burn, to wither, and to freeze. As natural as it is for the Calamity Beasts to live, it is just as natural for them to die.

[twilit canyon]

the player who plays a desert while the horse is in play also gets 3 life and draws a card

[trail anvil]

oh power or toughness nvm lmao

[twilit canyon]

so u cant exactly brick them

[golden plover]

I think it does hit every calamity beast

[twilit canyon]

unless they cannot afford to play a colorless land

[trail anvil]

oh it's "a player"

that's way worse

is this not unplayable then

[golden plover]

Oh yeah, it gives the opponent the draw too?

Card is ass wow

[twilit canyon]

depends

if you are ramping deserts

[golden plover]

Damn, 0/2 on BLB alchemy cards

[twilit canyon]

u are going turbo on draws

it shouldnt matter

[copper pecan]

you gain the 3 life regardless of who plays the land

[golden plover]

That's not the part you want tho

They'll just drop the deserts on turns their land colors don't matter to draw cards

The deserts effectively replace themselves

[twilit canyon]

right and you would, in your deck, be drawing way more cards

[golden plover]

Unless they're on a deck that ABSOLUTELY needs a specific colored land drop every turn, there's no reason not to just drop the deserts on turns it doesn't matter

[twilit canyon]

its perfectly fine and wants an archetype built around desert ramp

[golden plover]

Nah, you only draw on your deserts

[twilit canyon]

it should be

correct

[golden plover]

They draw on theirs

[twilit canyon]

you will be playing way more deserts

like

you build this playing mostly deserts as lands

and ramping deserts

[golden plover]

I dunno what deserts exist in standard tbh

Well alchemy

[lusty trench]

Could make an outcaster green blade deck

[golden plover]

Because this has the same issue the bad bird has elsewhere

You're moving too slow otherwise

[twilit canyon]

outlaws printed 10

no

15?

maybe 20 deserts

[golden plover]

I guess you've got them, yeah

But they all come in tapped

So you're taking the turn off every time. Which is gonna feel bad if you're not ahead

This card probably only really benefits you if you're ahead then

[zinc shard]

I could see Harbinger in an Elspeth deck

to deny your opponent the card draw

[sudden lava]

first day of locals with my new grouphug deck, almost pulled off wincons multiple times. But both attempts were stopped by a haywire mite (making me not able to simic ascend) and a "generous gift" of a 3/3 elephant targetting the boots I was giving my twenty toed toad

and I faced the weird match up of grouphug vs grouphug

[trail anvil]

tbh that's one of the few things I don't like about grouphug, when you get 2 decks in the same pod I feel like resources really get out of control there lol

[stark skiff]

heh thats funny i played the Rabbit precon today and managed to pull out wins with it

Perch Protection @trail anvil

[sudden lava]

and worst, it was 3 person pod for the grouphug vs grouphug deck

[trail anvil]

I'm glad you have seen the light

[sudden lava]

Perch Protection is goated

[trail anvil]

soon all shall be protected in the perch

[stark skiff]

I was going to pass to a Mothman deck but he Cyclonic Rift'd so I used the Protection to give the other Bello player a turn. So it went Bello then Mothman then Bello

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-gif-dancing-gif-meme-gif-14833186920628703517

[sudden lava]

oh and my locals isnt doing commander party bloomburrow cuz they did it on set release instead

[trail anvil]

tef protection + the ultimate politics piece in one 😎

using it in response to a board wipe is probably the best honestly, cause having to rebuild following that means the extra turn has less impact

[atomic harness]

[trail anvil]

fml I wanna play standard brawl but this format is legitimately all etali, jesus christ

[golden plover]

Love losing a game because I kept a 2 lander (and 2 baubles) and drew no lands for 6 turns

The highest MV card in the entire deck is 4

[copper pecan]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/948945461597831218/1273950622399336518/image.png?ex=66c07a79&is=66bf28f9&hm=1128a2b65b3a59c33f94c562b6e6c2ed8f208a4415ed4931630898522beda552&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=436&height=662

[last glen]

[[Rhystic Study]]

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https://scryfall.com/card/jmp/169/rhystic-study

Rhystic Study <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338>

Enchantment
Whenever an opponent casts a spell, you may draw a card unless that player pays .
Friends teach what you want to know. Enemies teach what you need to know.

[barren cairn]

[golden plover]

Rhystic Study is dogshit in 1v1

I figure you probably can safely gift it

[lusty trench]

5 mana wheel feels bad

[golden plover]

Actually wait... Is that a token or conjured? Gift's shitty wording makes it unclear

[barren cairn]

I guess it's a token mainly because "gift a fish"

[golden plover]

Yeah, but gift isn't clear and alchemy conjures cards

[trail anvil]

I think it's a conjure

it really is hard to tell though

[golden plover]

Gift is worded really poorly in general for the sake of being "cute"

Like the token creatures from gift being defined in CR and not the card's rules text

[copper pecan]

it's conjure

also this card seems crazy

[golden plover]

Offspring for 1? The fuck

So you just evoke a solitude and pay an extra 1 and take 2 off their board for 1 mana

[copper pecan]

just saw someone describe this as "impregnating the cards in your hand" and now i hate this

[subtle sierra]

You didn't need to say that

[golden plover]

I still wouldn't be surprised if it gets nerfed to offspring 2 tbh

[lusty trench]

Good luck fellas

[copper pecan]

Winter, Cynical Opportunist 2BG
Legendary Creature - Human Warlock
Deathtouch
Whenever this attacks, mill four cards.
Delirium - At the beginning of your end step, you may exile any number of cards from your graveyard with four or more card types among them. If you do, put a permanent card from among them onto the battlefield with a finality counter on it.
2/5

[trail anvil]

https://imgur.com/a/yblb-cards-AcWuoKt

[trail anvil]

I can't help but feel like other commanders do this effect better

[copper pecan]

probably

also aminatou seems to be a creature

[lusty trench]

The rakdos one is a 9 drop lmao

[golden plover]

How the fuck did they despark Aminatou

She can literally just go "Oh I want my spark back" and she'd have it

[trail anvil]

knowing how they design these nowadays I have no doubt it's gonna get a discount effect somewhere

[golden plover]

She could also have just gone "I don't wanna lose my spark"

[trail anvil]

ig they either nerfed her or she decided she didn't need it

[golden plover]

Yeah no shot the Rakdos one doesn't have some form of cost reduction

[trail anvil]

couldn't she just effectively planeswalk by shifting omenpaths or whatever

[lusty trench]

Depends because they have done high cost commanders once before

[golden plover]

Yeah, I guess. But it doesn't feel likely she'd give it up in the first place tbh

[lusty trench]

With sauron

[copper pecan]

calling it right now, it's gonna be affinity for enchantments

[golden plover]

I was thinking it'd be based on opponents that take damage or something

Zimone has landfall

[stark skiff]

The desert one is high

[trail anvil]

the desert one has extreme cost reduction lol

[trail anvil]

I actually kinda fuck with this

I hope that surveil is 2 at least cause that'd be some great filtering

[copper pecan]

wow a simic landfall commander, never seen that one before

[golden plover]

Simic Landfall and Rakdos caring about damage

Very exciting new territory

[trail anvil]

I don't think we've confirmed the rakdos one at all lol

actually wait was it in the blurb

[golden plover]

The writeup is group slug

He cares about damage in some form

[trail anvil]

I mean I'd be more interested if it was like kediss than rakdos or something

supposedly embercleave is in this spellbook lmao

that oughta be fun to lose to

[twilit canyon]

aggro's been extremely weak and this having potential for embercleave means it can maybe save them

[sudden lava]

Inb4 it has a way to reduce cost

[sudden lava]

It seems to be magecraft

Not landfall

[golden plover]

Honestly it'd be kinda funny if it didn't have a way to reduce cost and was just something dumb like "ETB deal 30 damage to all opponents"

[golden plover]

It's landfall, you can tell by the kerning and the wording we can read being consistent with the wording for landfall

Magecraft is worded differently

Magecraft is "whenever you cast an instant or sorcery spell" and Landfall is "whenever a land you control enters"

They're different text lengths

[golden plover]

Underlined the "a"

[sudden lava]

Yeah all I can see is pixels, and it be weird for her to be landfall considering the theme of her deck. Unless it's like "Landfall, add an instant from your graveyard"

or something

[steady onyx]

i like simic i hope the simic deck is good

[sudden lava]

oh right forgot the new trap card mechanic, so instant or the trap card mechanic

[golden plover]

Traps are a mechanic from Zendikar

They're not new

[[Mindbreak Trap]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/mb2/168/mindbreak-trap

Mindbreak Trap <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant — Trap
If an opponent cast three or more spells this turn, you may pay rather than pay this spell's mana cost.
Exile any number of target spells.
"Life is a maze. This is one of its dead ends." —Noyan Dar, Tazeem lullmage

[sudden lava]

griswold I dont mean like that

https://youtu.be/Is_ghoPFjrw?t=2816

"Casting things at instant speed, it also has a new mechanic we haven't even shown yet in it"

"Mysterious face-down cards"

https://tenor.com/view/yugioh-card-gif-10921362

[lusty trench]

We already have those though

Foretell

[sudden lava]

Yes, there is gonna be a new foretell in the set

mechanically distinct foretell

[golden plover]

Yeah I don't know why they'd not just reuse foretell tbh

Foretell works for a horror setting too "Omens foretold" and stuff

[zinc shard]

https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/s/wQN6UEGNOU

[lusty trench]

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN A SECRET LAIR THATS WORTH THE ASKING PRICE

🎊🎊🎊🎊🎊

[golden plover]

That's a $100 reprint (in foil)

[trail anvil]

isn't [[$dolmen gate]] pretty nice too

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/lrw/256/dolmen-gate

Prices for Dolmen Gate

The List

$17.33

Lorwyn

$19.60 • €10.54 • 0.02 TIX

[lusty trench]

Damn I can't afford not to miss that lair but I'm never gonna get the chance to get it

[golden plover]

That's the card I was referencing, yeah

[trail anvil]

oh I thought [[$stranglehold]] was money

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/cma/87/stranglehold

Prices for Stranglehold

Judge Gift Cards 2022

$7.95

Commander Anthology

$6.12 • €6.13

Commander 2011

$6.27 • €5.57 • 1.97 TIX

[trail anvil]

guess not

[sudden lava]

https://x.com/wizards_magic/status/1824476215014527355

Magic: The Gathering (@wizards_magic) on X

As the sun sets on brat summer....

#MTGDuskmourn

Twitter · Aug 16, 2024, 4:00 PM

[golden plover]

This feels really lame tbh

Like I don't get how they're referencing brat summer

You're a corporation, you can't have a brat summer

[copper pecan]

what the fuck is brat summer

[golden plover]

Very "how do you do fellow kids" especially since Duskmorn has nothing to do with brat

[golden plover]

Charli XCX's new album, brat

[lusty trench]

It's basically just being loud and chaotic

[copper pecan]

what if brat summer was called gyatt summer and it was skibidi

[lusty trench]

We gotta take away your internet salt

[golden plover]

Also, this album came out in June

[lusty trench]

I'm gonna say it

Brat summer is the equivalent of dudes who want to be joker

[golden plover]

Brat summer is like a fine bit

It's not particularly exciting on its own

[lusty trench]

Oh if you're saying it as a bit sure

[golden plover]

Yeah, the serious "I'm in my brat summer" people were annoying

And this just feels.... Bad

Like Wotc stop y'all didn't consult a single gay person about this lmao

[lusty trench]

To be fair

I highly doubt there is a lack of LGBT people at the wotc office

[golden plover]

I'm sure there isn't.

[lusty trench]

Just that there's less of them at the top

[golden plover]

Which makes this way more baffling

Surely someone should have gone "yeah this is dumb"

[copper pecan]

this is probably just some intern shitposting

[lusty trench]

You know what could've saved this

Them saying bat summer

[golden plover]

Honestly it would've fit Bloomburrow better

[sleek ferry]

I don't see anything wrong with Brat summer tbh

it's like hot girl summer

[golden plover]

There's nothing wrong with the meme of it

It's just not fitting at all for MTG lmao

And it's very corporate and out of touch to randomly theme their socials after brat 2 months later

[lusty trench]

I mean that wasn't good either, but anything that thrives on being chaotic or quirky makes me shudder

[golden plover]

If they did this as "bat summer" for Bloomburrow maybe

But it's just weird and cringe lmao to see them doing this

[trail anvil]

what the fuck is this lmao

just got hit by triple bandit's talent in draft

[lusty trench]

Ugh tomorrow I’m gonna have to do research on when secret lairs go live and stuff to hopefully have a chance at the karlach one

[stark skiff]

August 29

[lusty trench]

Ye but I also have to know the time

And I’m bad at time zone stuffs

[sleek ferry]

You buying me one?

[stark skiff]

These are ass bro. I would never buy you some booty ass product

[sleek ferry]

[golden plover]

I've gotta try and get a box of MB2

[stark skiff]

Oh is that gonna be in the new SL drop?

[golden plover]

Yeah

[stark skiff]

Guess I’ll try for it

[golden plover]

I want a box

[steady onyx]

@twilit canyonyou had mentioned some cards I could ugrade the shadowheart deck with but I cant seem to find the list, would you mind saying them again

[twilit canyon]

yes i would

#1020928983883325522 message

here figure it out yourself

[steady onyx]

ok

what does fetchland mean?

[trail anvil]

https://scryfall.com/search?q=o%3A"pay+1+life%2C+sacrifice"+t%3Aland&unique=cards&as=grid&order=name

prismatic vista isn't really considered part of the cycle but the rest are there

[steady onyx]

so for my deck I would just want polluted delta

since im only dimir colours?

[trail anvil]

you can run anything that grabs an island or a swamp, the intent is to grab something like the shock land that's in your colors

[steady onyx]

and idt i can play lands that dont have my colour

oh

that makes sense ok

[trail anvil]

[[watery grave]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/rvr/291/watery-grave

Watery Grave

Land — Island Swamp
(: Add or .)
As Watery Grave enters, you may pay 2 life. If you don't, it enters tapped.

[trail anvil]

it doesn't matter for fetch lands since they don't actually add that color of the mana. those colors are just quick references to what lands they fetch

[golden plover]

Komi pfp change? Feels wrong lmao

[steady onyx]

oh

[trail anvil]

yeah lol

[steady onyx]

i see

ok

[golden plover]

Ill get used to it but damn it's been like 10 years

[steady onyx]

and is the mana base more important than the other cards

so mana base over like the counters

since they can technally be used in more decks

[twilit canyon]

holy shit thats komi

i thought it was my sister for a sec lmao

[twilit canyon]

yes

[golden plover]

Yeah I can't believe Komi changed his pfp

[twilit canyon]

the fetch lands you can use in your deck are:
misty rainforest
polluted delta
bloodstained mire
flooded strand
marsh flats
verdant catacombs

prismatic vista

and scalding tarn

yep

[sudden lava]

Debating on if I should trade in my borderless prismatic vista or not

[twilit canyon]

you can use 8 fetches

[steady onyx]

ooh wait

[twilit canyon]

in 1 2c deck, you can fit 8 fetches

[steady onyx]

these dont need to grab bassicl lands

that seems really strong

[twilit canyon]

only prismatic grabs only basics

the rest can grab [[watery grave]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/rvr/291/watery-grave

Watery Grave

Land — Island Swamp
(: Add or .)
As Watery Grave enters, you may pay 2 life. If you don't, it enters tapped.

[trail anvil]

she does have a good taste in profile pictures

[twilit canyon]

and anything that says >island swamp

[trail anvil]

most notably the surveil land

get that consistency

[twilit canyon]

underwater whatever the fuck

idr the name lol

[[undercity sewers]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/mkm/270/undercity-sewers

Undercity Sewers

Land — Island Swamp
(: Add or .)
Undercity Sewers enters tapped.
When Undercity Sewers enters, surveil 1. (Look at the top card of your library. You may put it into your graveyard.)

[twilit canyon]

and [[underground sea]] of course

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/vma/323/underground-sea

Underground Sea

Land — Island Swamp
(: Add or .)

[steady onyx]

i didnt have eitehr of those in the list

should I add them?

[trail anvil]

I wouldn't bother with that one unless you really wanna spend hundreds for a very tiny amount of consistency tho

[twilit canyon]

yeah

wait a minute

[steady onyx]

i wanna cut this stupid card

[twilit canyon]

i think i added both to the list

[steady onyx]

this is what I hav e

for list

[twilit canyon]

i only didnt add the sewer

what card do you wanna cut

[steady onyx]

the storage one

idk it might be good

but it feels so slow

idk

[twilit canyon]

hm

what

[steady onyx]

[[dreadship reef]

[[dreadship reef]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/tsr/276/dreadship-reef

Dreadship Reef

Land
: Add .
, : Put a storage counter on Dreadship Reef.
, Remove X storage counters from Dreadship Reef: Add X mana in any combination of and/or .

[steady onyx]

mabye this card is good and i just diddnt know

[twilit canyon]

oh no this was a budget inclusion

[steady onyx]

so i can cut this for the one

undercity sweer

sewe

[twilit canyon]

do you want me to edit the decklist for the land upgrades?

i can do so right now

[steady onyx]

nah

imma keep a seprate list

cause that will take me more time

[twilit canyon]

okay i can make a copy and edit it there

[steady onyx]

sure

if you dont mind

that would be awesome

[twilit canyon]

do you only want land upgrades

or just

in general upgrades

[steady onyx]

honestly all upgrades

[twilit canyon]

https://www.moxfield.com/decks/KKs2bY9Q7Uqp_sjLN5nqlg

did it without too many crazy inclusions or anything that'd be super absurd as in

reserve list cards

or cards that are cedh level

ah shit 1 sec

okay its good now

only thing i missed adding was dark ritual and entomb

@steady onyx keep dark ritual and entomb in mind

[steady onyx]

ok

thanks

[trail anvil]

mana drain was probably my best ever use of a mythic wildcard

actual wincon

[golden plover]

Hmm, thinking of trying the vintage [[Valki]] tech for both my Lurrus decks in timeless

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/khm/114/valki-god-of-lies-tibalt-cosmic-impostor

Valki, God of Lies <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Creature — God
When Valki enters, each opponent reveals their hand. For each opponent, exile a creature card they revealed this way until Valki leaves the battlefield.
: Choose a creature card exiled with Valki with mana value X. Valki becomes a copy of that card.
2/1

Tibalt, Cosmic Impostor
Legendary Planeswalker — Tibalt
As Tibalt enters, you get an emblem with "You may play cards exiled with Tibalt, Cosmic Impostor, and you may spend mana as though it were mana of any color to cast those spells."
+2: Exile the top card of each player's library.
−3: Exile target artifact or creature.
−8: Exile all graveyards. Add .
Loyalty: 5

[golden plover]

People are running Valki to snag the opponent's Lurrus in the mirror and also can flip in control matchups

[twilit canyon]

they do this in vintage cus they have moxen and lotus

so casting flipped valki is trivial

timeless is strong yes but it doesnt has these options

[golden plover]

I mean, you're probably not flipping it that often tbh in general. From what I've seen its mostly just hate for the other lurrus

Trying one in the main and side for both my Lurrus lists

[twilit canyon]

lurrus is way more rare in timeless

[golden plover]

Not with energy and frog and stuff

[twilit canyon]

with frog yes

[golden plover]

I'm seeing a ton of other lurrus in mythic rn

Dimir and Mardu are both on it a lot

[twilit canyon]

ive been playing mostly standard alchemy rn so idk

but i remember that in timeless lurrus was a niche choice

[golden plover]

I think the Valki tech might be the move rn

Considering a ton of lists are on lurrus

Well the good lists

The bad energy lists are still on Phlage and stuff

[twilit canyon]

thats insane considering phlage is the stronger card

ig they are punting certain match ups

which i guess is fine

grief scam decks arent popular themselves

[golden plover]

Nah, I think Phlage is worse in energy

Imo, I also just wouldn't wanna be on Phlage rn with how much black is in the format

[twilit canyon]

phlage is the deck

no

[golden plover]

Surgical Extraction gg

[twilit canyon]

if theres a ton of black in the format

you want to be on phlage

phlage auto-beats any scam

if they see phlage in your opener with grief they auto lose

[golden plover]

Phlage wins against scam but loses to anything with surgical extractions in the board

[twilit canyon]

nope

or else modern scam would dominate energy

but it doesnt

they cannot board surgicals against just phlage

but they cant scam phlage either since its a waste of a discard

but if they dont then they lose to phlage

theres a reason scam in modern has fallen out of tier 1 and its bc of phlage

they cannot beat the card

and the decks playing phlage you cannot play surgical into

you dont wanna be the one caught going t1 grief -> discard phlage -> reanimate grief -> surgical phlage

thats game-losing

you lose 6 life and are down 4 cards in your opener to still have your grief get fried by bolt or static prison

phlage is the strongest non-nadu creature in modern and likely the strongest in timeless

only deathrite shaman competes

which btw if u are in black, you should be on 4 drs

[copper pecan]

who the fuck is this guy

like seriously whomst is this man

[lusty trench]

You fool

You dare question him in his domain

[fallow citrus]

god magic players and literacy smh

it's Niall Silvain, duh

[twilit canyon]

its a green man

[glad peak]

Woo my playgroup is finally on the pdh train

[sleek ferry]

? That’s Neil Sullivan

[stark skiff]

New pickups

Forgot this

[sleek ferry]

Prerelease innkeeper’s talent? You’re not beating the rich allegations

[stark skiff]

Yeah foil. I got it for cheap cause I’m poor

[clever sun]

Based

[lusty trench]

That ain't pre release that's promo pack

[sleek ferry]

That’s even more expensive no?

[lusty trench]

Nah, promo packs are the things your locals throws at you

Pre release kits arent as common

Especially given they need an upfront

[sudden lava]

Le bat friend

[zinc shard]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MagicArena/comments/1eut31n/whats_holding_this_back/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

One of the weirdest reddit posts ive seen

[trail anvil]

yeah someone did notice it in the comments at least. they either don't speak English and are using a machine translator or for some reason this is an AI post

[glad peak]

It’s most likely a non-English speaker who’s pretty old (judging by some words being used/translated)

Could be AI translations with little actual training done but with professional documents not fit for social media but who would have that tech and use it on Reddit of all things

[stark skiff]

quick question with Bloodletter of Aclazotz, how does it work with commander damage and lifelink?

[twilit canyon]

[[bloodletter of aclazotz]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/lci/92/bloodletter-of-aclazotz

Bloodletter of Aclazotz <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Creature — Vampire Demon
Flying
If an opponent would lose life during your turn, they lose twice that much life instead. (Damage causes loss of life.)
Its very presence rips old wounds open to bleed anew.
2/4

[twilit canyon]

commander damage is strictly combat damage

[stark skiff]

got it. how about for lifelink interaction?

[twilit canyon]

i dont think it has any interaction with lifelink

the ability only cares about opponents losing life during your turn

so your bloodletter would deal 2 and gain 2 life and your opponent would lose 4 life

[stark skiff]

got it. figured there was something up with it compared to like the red sources that double or triple

[twilit canyon]

no it specifies life loss

[glad peak]

If bloodletter gets lifelink no life would be gained since damage and life loss are different

On the other hand, this card is great in that one decepticon

[stark skiff]

wait you would still gain 2 no?

[glad peak]

That’s assuming you attack with the bloodletter

If we go by what the ability would be able to get you, it’s none

[stark skiff]

right assuming Bloodletter + LL it would gain 2 and not 4

thanks for the confirmation

[glad peak]

Blitzwing was a fringe bad cedh deck for a bit, right? Whatever happened to the pilot of that deck

[twilit canyon]

who knows

[zinc shard]

... My Haywire Mite... got Swords to Plowshared... on turn TWO

[twilit canyon]

the card's very good

[trail anvil]

kellan deck
yeah that tracks

[atomic harness]

Haywire mite just be the goat

[fallow citrus]

https://x.com/BWheelerMTG/status/1824915713322299764

Benjamin Wheeler (@BWheelerMTG) on X

Incredibly Reddit (derogatory) land

Twitter · Aug 17, 2024, 9:06 PM

[subtle sierra]

insel

[copper pecan]

blue players incels confirmed?????

[last glen]

Lab support in magic confirmed?

[glad peak]

It sure is a heckin labyrinth

Also confirms lovely lady is indeed green blue

[golden plover]

Huh just lost to a really interesting Jeskai control list. It was standard Jeskai control, but it ran Show and Tell and Omniscience to get a wincon off

They took g3 too because I sided in my show and tell hate g2 (deafening silence and vexing bauble) and they simply sided out the show and tell package into g3, so I had 4 dead cards

[twilit canyon]

that was too close

almost fumbled it at the end but

sultai gaming gets there

lilysplash mentor is so strong

easily one of the best uncommons in the entire set if not the best?

[sleek ferry]

[[Lilysplash mentor]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/blb/222/lilysplash-mentor

Lilysplash Mentor <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manag:292901508654301185><:manau:292901508754702338>

Creature — Frog Druid
Reach
: Exile another target creature you control, then return it to the battlefield under its owner's control with a +1/+1 counter on it. Activate only as a sorcery.
"Splashy entrances are my specialty. And they can be yours too. Try again!"
4/4

[sleek ferry]

Oh yeah this card is crazy

[twilit canyon]

value is insane all over the place for it

too easy to create game ending loops with it

used it with splash lasher and finch formation to loop attackers in or lock a board

every game i saw it i won easily

[atomic harness]

how was spellgyre?

[twilit canyon]

it was filler mostly

but it came in handy once or twice

[zinc shard]

https://vxtwitter.com/RarranHS/status/1825180343709659440

[granite badge]

i misread this as Renren for a second lmao

[sleek ferry]

I read the same thing lmao

[golden plover]

Holy shit I was 10 minutes late to getting to the festival in a box and they're already sold out. What the fuck WoTC

Literally impossible to beat the scalpers and bots

Oh wait the site display is fucky lmao. It displayed as sold out despite the sale not being available yet?

[glad peak]

if the supply is 0, show sold out, right?

[golden plover]

Lmao I assume that's the backend that they show

It's fixed to show a timer now

But it was a "sold out" for a bit

[glad peak]

i love incorrect backend lol

[sudden lava]

https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/magic-story/side-one-welcome-home

https://tenor.com/view/haunted-mansion-madam-leoda-gif-7604719058888710160

[golden plover]

https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/making-magic/state-of-design-2024

Takeaways for MKM and Thunder Junction were that both felt paper thin design-wise and that they didn't really feel good thematically

More good things for thunder junction in the gameplay department but worldbuilding and lore were... Not good

MKM basically has no good things about it even from MaRo lmao

Also Maro said that they can print UB cards in other sets with in-universe themes. Would be interesting to see it actually happen since they haven't yet tbh

[copper pecan]

it has

[[wreck and rebuild]] got reprinted in the otj commander decks

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/otc/250/wreck-and-rebuild

Wreck and Rebuild <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manar:292901508796645397><:manag:292901508654301185>

Sorcery
Choose one —
• Destroy target artifact or enchantment.
• Mill five cards, then you may put a land card from your graveyard onto the battlefield tapped.
Flashback

[golden plover]

MKM is also referred to as "the worst selling sets in many years"

[golden plover]

Oh huh, so there is then

I wanna see what they do for one with more world specific flavor (ie the one ring) then

One Ring, OBM, Nadu, and Writhing Chrysalis are all specifically mentioned as design mistakes btw

[glad peak]

that means they're going to get banned, right? right?

wait what's wring with chrysalis?

[golden plover]

Chrysalis is a ridiculously mythic common in Draft

[copper pecan]

chrysalis was too good in limited yeah

[golden plover]

It basically effectively wins you the game in limited and it's common

The other three are probably not getting banned anytime soon

But the fact they're aware all three are design mistakes are interesting

[copper pecan]

of course they're aware, they're not blind

[golden plover]

Yeah true

Although I definitely think Nadu and OBM were intentionally mistakes, probably One Ring too

There's so many knobs on Nadu and OBM that could have been very slightly tuned to make the cards reasonable

[lusty trench]

I don’t think they took away what they needed to from mkm tbh, they know it sold well but they noted people liked the murder mystery theme… which implies they think people actually cared once the story came out given that they were too frightened to use existing or established characters instead using characters that have minimal showings just to off them.

Shadows of innistrad is the most similar set to it and handled the mystery aspect much, much better

[golden plover]

Yeah tbh, most of the story impact is kinda nothing

Simic has a new guild leader every few years as is

[lusty trench]

Avacyns death was a big deal for a lot of players and the fact the mystery involved Jace, the magic franchises icon, sorrin, fan favourite established character, nahiri… ain’t got much to say about her but they needed an antagonist and boy howdy did they certainly stuff her into the role, and emrakul, last of the eldrazi titans and easily the most popular

[golden plover]

Teysa is back (even if it's an alchemy card, which makes the conclusion of that feel weaker)

[modern minnow]

surprised people liked otj limited so much

format really grew stale for me

[golden plover]

And like... Who was really caring about Trostani?

[lusty trench]

From what I played of otj limited it’s fine

It’s just this year is lacking in good limited sets so it stood out as one of the less bad

[golden plover]

There was probably someone else in the MKM story who died

[modern minnow]

wasnt horrendous but the extra bonus sheets made it so you got robbed way more than usual

[golden plover]

But I'm forgetting who

[lusty trench]

Mh3 being the highlight so long as you don’t go about chrysalis

[golden plover]

Yeah OTJ draft is very bomb heavy

[modern minnow]

mh3 even with chrys wasnt that bad tbh

like i still enjoyed that format after playing an obscene amount of it

[golden plover]

MH3 draft feels very fair, but it does kinda suck to see Chrysalis in it

[lusty trench]

Yeah it’s not an egregious mistake just one that tips the scales a little too much

[modern minnow]

ye it is a massive blemish on the set

[golden plover]

It's just a bit too strong, but the draft is the best one in a while

Also lol at Nadu being called a design mistake in the state of design article and not getting banned on the upcoming banlist and still being modern legal

[lusty trench]

I feel like had they talked about the bloomburrow limited environment there would be a lot of choice words

Because boy howdy is it a limited environment

[modern minnow]

they tried not to lorwyn

but ended up lorwyning

[glad peak]

inb4 their logic for not banning nadu is "there are a lot design mistakes in modern"

[golden plover]

Honestly I don't think they'll bring it up

Theyll ban Shuko and go "we want to dial the deck's power a bit back" and call it a day

[lusty trench]

To be fair that’s not like a bad reason but it’s sweeping degrees of mistakes under the rug

[golden plover]

And Nadu is definitely intentionally a mistake

[lusty trench]

Like spilling a bit of water on the floor is a mistake, as is tripping over and breaking your arm

But the two aren’t equal

[golden plover]

There's so many minor things about Nadu that are too good. The fact it's out of bolt range, 3/4 flier for 3 with upside, the fact that it gives everything its effect, and the twice per turn

Like they could have made it a 2/3 for 3 with its other effects nerfed a bit too and it would have still been strong

[golden plover]

It'll be interesting to see how they talk about Bloomburrow limited next year ngl

It's very "on rails"

So it'll be interesting to see what they have to say about it

[lusty trench]

“Are you playing on curve?”

That is bloomburrow limited

[golden plover]

Are you playing one of the good tribes and on curve? Gg

Are you playing one of the bad tribes and not on curve? Gg

[lusty trench]

Nah even if you’re playing dog shit tribes if you’re on curve you can usually do something, there is rarely a way to swing the tempo back

[golden plover]

Yeah true, but it's a lot harder to win if you're not on one of the good tribes

Either way, interested in what they say about Bloomburrow and AC next year

I assume AC will take the title from MKM as "worst selling sets in years"

[lusty trench]

Apparently it sold what they thought it would so

Likely lower print numbers

[golden plover]

Makes sense

Also we're 3:3 on "We learned that Modern Horizons was too good and shaped eternal formats too much"

Oh I'm not getting that box

Oh... It went down to 60 minutes

And then back up...

Oh 45 minutes... Maybe I'll actually get to buy it...

Oh no... They took my estimated wait time away entirely... Shows nothing now

[lusty trench]

Good luck pope

[golden plover]

I don't think the no estimated wait time is a good sign

[golden plover]

Order placed

[glad peak]

woo

nice

[golden plover]

That was painful

[stark skiff]

Fml the box is today!

[golden plover]

Better get in line rn

It's probably sold out already

[lusty trench]

Got a friend to get me the DND lairs for astaron and karlach so I'm gucci

[golden plover]

Oh are they up too?

I went straight for the festival in a box

[lusty trench]

Nah

They're up 27th

But they're good at getting in the line

[golden plover]

Ah gotcha

[stark skiff]

Working so I won’t make it

I would need someone to get in line for me and I’ll pay them back

[golden plover]

It's still not sold out, but it says "limited quantity"

[stark skiff]

Yeah I don’t think I’ll make it

[golden plover]

If you can get in line now, you can maybe do it

[stark skiff]

How much was total with tax?

[golden plover]

$264

[stark skiff]

Got someone to buy me one. $275 in Cali

[golden plover]

Ayy not bad

@lusty trench just now getting around to reading the new story. They SUPER nerfed Aminatou

[lusty trench]

Expected

[golden plover]

Her power only shows random outcomes now and it's only once per person (per unexplained timeframe)

[stark skiff]

The SLD inclusion in the box is new?

[golden plover]

Nah, they did that last time too

[stark skiff]

Oh I meant these specific cards are new?

[golden plover]

Oh yeah the SLD is

Currently exclusive to this too

[stark skiff]

Oh neat

[golden plover]

Tbh outside of the Omnath I'm not feeling the lair but it's included so hey

Also that swords is like $60

And the ponder is like $40

[twilit canyon]

why did ppl think these were expensive again?

[sleek ferry]

Ig if you’re a new player 9k gems is a lot

But an existing arena player? These shits are dirt cheap

[stark skiff]

I just really like the artwork lol

And yeah I was thinking about buying this Swords version so neat it’s included

[golden plover]

They're expensive if you don't already have the cards

16k gems is $50 a digital only deck

They're also kinda shit decks for the price

[stark skiff]

The DND lairs are tomorrow right?

Guessing like at 9 pacific?

[lusty trench]

27th my guy

You're a week off

[stark skiff]

lmao i thought it was this week cause of the dumb mystery box. thanks.

[zinc shard]

https://youtube.com/shorts/ZVZKlC5YHNo?si=rC9DkB1dcucDqpJc

[lusty trench]

Cruelclaw is one of those decks that's either a cute gimmick or war crimes

[glad peak]

Do you know how little that narrows it down?

[lusty trench]

Apparently aminatou now has the power to grant people totems, one off items that grant it's wearer the monados power by letting them see a possible future where they die at the moment of the decision or action that causes it

So we're likely getting cards that depict death scenes of the main characters without having to have them die

[copper pecan]

so this is the monado's power...

[lusty trench]

I am in the process of expressing my awe of the strange and god like power that the legendary sword known as and described through my colony's history as the monado has, and can truly feel how this is impacting my current situation...

IM REALLY FEELING IT

[golden plover]

Ngl I kinda hate this guy

He's always like "This commander is SO BROKEN he can suck my dick. He DOES THIS ONE EXTRMELY niche SITUATION and IT MAKES ME FURIOUS. I hate when THEY PLAY THEIR 4 CARD combo."

[stark skiff]

in the few stuff ive seen him in he does seem like someone who would annoy me in irl so i never followed his stuff lol

[golden plover]

I don't wanna hear the same bit for literally every commander

Just "If you play this card you're an asshole and this card is terrible. You can (do thing the commander wants to do) and basically, you're a dick"

Literally one bit

[twilit canyon]

same one bit icant

[lusty trench]

I like it mainly cause of the way he says things

[golden plover]

He at least has fun wording yeah

But I wish he'd switch up his jokes

Since the joke is always "here's why this commander is broken but with funny language"

[stark skiff]

It’s what gets the clicks

[golden plover]

True

[trail anvil]

I like it idk

[glad peak]

He has a funny way of saying things which I like

The content of what he says reminds me of regular edh people so I’m glad he’s making fun of that too

Sort of wotc’s fault for designing so many casual war crime commanders recently though

[zinc shard]

https://youtube.com/shorts/a3hU_5r5nFA?si=1v68qzWVdfT7BVpi

[sleek ferry]

As luck would have it, high noon is an amazing card when your whole deck plays at instant speed

https://tenor.com/view/dj-khaled-another-one-one-gif-5057861

[sleek ferry]

Alright this one I felt genuinely bad about

Got him in the dou port interrupter loop

[golden plover]

https://preview.redd.it/y1yitg8h6ujd1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9cd0843765b04899982f87224be6f0f19deb0e73

This is definitely meathook, right?

No way it comes back in standard tbh. Gotta be a special guest slots

[lusty trench]

Could be a bonus sheet thing too

I doubt it though since they haven’t said anything about one

[golden plover]

Bonus sheet "spooky cards" feels very Rakdos slanted too

So it'd be hard to get color balance

It's gotta be special guest meathook I feel

No way they'd ban it in standard twice

[twilit canyon]

forgot to post this last night. i've been hard farming this limited set

but, i keep getting too cocky and nearly fumbling the 7 wins

6-0 into 1-2 tech

a benefit of red sucking in this set

is that u can hard cut off red and get hugs, and both emberhearts without having to pick them yourself

[sudden lava]

https://youtu.be/fxN6tutRMxY

InsertD&Djoke

[rigid scarab]

OTJ's bonus sheet with "criminal cards" was also blue slanted

[twilit canyon]

a lot of red and black too

[golden plover]

Hmm so ||that's not Zimone||. That's gonna make her cards really confusing considering they have her name on them

Why did Tyvar spend the whole time being a dick to The Wanderer because she's royalty? I get that, but bro, you're a prince

Tyvar does loop back around to being nice to her

But it's a weird comment from a noble

[steady onyx]

is there somewhere i can get the images that are in game for mtga

like the high definition card arts?

i can find some of the works made by the artist

but i assume they put more renderd images in mtga

for cleaner look

[zinc shard]

Might have found a new Brawl deck

[sudden lava]

https://youtu.be/8AZyOe2ejqY

[subtle sierra]

god i know these decks are bad but like

why the fuck are toxic decks allowed to have 7 counters by turn 3

this is stupid

[trail anvil]

yeah that's just toxic unfort

[steady onyx]

gonna ask this again

[fallow citrus]

think this will be your best way to find them

https://www.mtgpics.com/

[stark skiff]

Oh shit Wick Im working on it right now

[trail anvil]

why did they put the horse in this deck lmao

[twilit canyon]

horse is pretty stupid good

but it makes this deck a bit inconsistent

horse should have been in the frog deck

[trail anvil]

frog deck is clearly just too broken 😎

is the horse that good? I just realized that you gain the life no matter what but it seems weird to me still

[twilit canyon]

its really strong

[trail anvil]

oh they put it in this one cause of [[sanguine soothsayer]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/yblb/11/sanguine-soothsayer

Sanguine Soothsayer <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manab:292901508872273920>

Creature — Bat Cleric
Flying, lifelink
Whenever Sanguine Soothsayer attacks, conjure a card named Sanguine Bond into the top fifteen cards of your library at random. It perpetually gains "You may pay rather than pay this spell's mana cost" and "When this permanent enters, draw a card."
2/1

[twilit canyon]

dawg what the fuck can i jus ttake this whhole pack

[trail anvil]

jesus lmao

[lusty trench]

Dear lord

[trail anvil]

what'd you even take from this?

[twilit canyon]

finneas

i was already on gw

[trail anvil]

oh wow lmao then you're set

[lusty trench]

If this was P1 P1 I'd be in a cold sweat

[trail anvil]

there's hella good bunny cards in there too, 7-0 incoming

also apparently mtga doesn't consider mdfc lands towards eluge's island count? unless there's some weird rule I'm not taking into account

[twilit canyon]

i ended getting caretakers talent and a ton of token makers im beyond set

now to ruin it by splashing lilysplash mentor

[trail anvil]

jesus fuck

[glad peak]

if it was p1 p1 then sure you take shredder since you're not locked into a color combo, right?

or is railing good enough in blb draft that it doesn't matter

[twilit canyon]

p2

unfort

[lusty trench]

Selesnya is an extremely good colour pair to tunnel into, meanwhile blue can leave you stuck in otters or rats, or if you’re lucky birds or especially frogs

I’d probably go finneas purely because tunneling into selesnya just works

But passing the other two feels so shitty

[golden plover]

There are no MDFC islands

Eluge only cares about islands

Not just lands

[trail anvil]

eluge turns lands into islands

[golden plover]

Oh huh

[trail anvil]

[[eluge the shoreless sea]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/blb/49/eluge-the-shoreless-sea

Eluge, the Shoreless Sea <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338>

Legendary Creature — Elemental Fish
Eluge's power and toughness are each equal to the number of Islands you control.
Whenever Eluge enters or attacks, put a flood counter on target land. It's an Island in addition to its other types for as long as it has a flood counter on it.
The first instant or sorcery spell you cast each turn costs (or ) less to cast for each land you control with a flood counter on it.
*/*

[golden plover]

Lemme check rulings then

[trail anvil]

it worked work every land that wasn't an mdfc

[golden plover]

He shouldn't be "seeing" the front side on the battlefield

So it's probably a bug

Unless they ruled it weird

[trail anvil]

yeah that's what I was thinking

unrelated but I actually kinda wanna play this as an edh commander after thinking how the first spell each turn clause goes way harder in a 4 player format

[golden plover]

Yeah mdfcs only see the chosen side at anywhere other than hand/deck

Seems like a bug

Wait even him seeing the other side shouldn't matter

As long as it's a land in addition

[trail anvil]

apparently it's all mdfcs

[fallow citrus]

apparently they've brought GPs back now?

actually exciting news for once

[sleek ferry]

Any advice on this, some of the questionable decisions are due to lack of wild cards

Like I would love to have 1 or 2 more vipers for example instead of rankle

Also before Misty asks, I crafted the decadent dragons when eldraine first came out, I swore the card was going to be good but it wasn’t, it’s been alright so far in this though

[trail anvil]

I think you need the vipers, the freebooters look really weird without it

[sleek ferry]

Yeah I know but no mythic wildcards

So I’m making due with what I have

[last glen]

just purchase 24 packs smile
easiest wildcards of your life

[sleek ferry]

It’s also why I’m maxing out on Magda

[lusty trench]

Apart from that I’m not sure what could be changed here, this is the definition of rakdos good stuff

Efficient as hell creatures and removal, decent hand refills

[glad peak]

gps coming back is cool but... fully expecting it to be commander and standard and kick out everyone who don't play either format lol

[lusty trench]

Expecting standard is something ig

As sad as it is to say

Where I’m at it’s commander or limited and that’s all

[sleek ferry]

Standard has been based for over a year now tbh

[stark skiff]

Wake up @atomic harness time to top these events

[twilit canyon]

deck was cracked but i got mana screwed a few games in a row and honestly

i played out of my mind to win these 5 games

[stark skiff]

Why is Ashcoat so expensive

[lusty trench]

One printing hard to get high demand

He’s the rat craterhoof

[atomic harness]

Goated

[twilit canyon]

yea in the 8 games i played total, i drew at most, 14-15 lands

[trail anvil]

rip I've definitely been there

or drafting a nuts deck but then you go against someone who clearly had a sealed pool instead

[twilit canyon]

nah that wasnt it for me

i just legit drew 2 lands the 3 losses

and the 5 games i won i was at 3-4 lands most times

this is the price of high diamond/low mythic draft tho cus u can only skill ur way past a bit

u do need a bit of luck when it comes to drafting

[trail anvil]

no ik I'm just saying as another example

[trail anvil]

caretaker's talent ban coming in hot, I can feel it

this thing is white fable of the broken mirror on god

[subtle sierra]

😠

let me have my wincons

otherwise i'll have to go and do inkeeper's vraska...

[trail anvil]

this is the town bike wincon, everyone's hopping on it

[subtle sierra]

haha

hopping

[trail anvil]

haha

[stark skiff]

Fuck time to find some Caretakers

[trail anvil]

I'm seeing azorius control using it though and this shit is actually really solid

fucking deduce triggers it lmao

[subtle sierra]

yeah lots of random shit does

i've been subbing out sunfalls with no witnesses and like

token

sunfall makes token

you got hit by get lost?

token

speaking of

i love this

[stark skiff]

Picked these foils up (and 1 textured foil)

[subtle sierra]

kitty ring

[trail anvil]

that dismember art goes hard

[stark skiff]

personally i like the doggo side more lol

[subtle sierra]

idk all the arts but i see cat i like

[trail anvil]

oh wow that's 2 arts in one

also lmao that flavor text

[stark skiff]

yeah that and anointed procession are reversible cards from the catdog deck

[stark skiff]

damn that otter deck popped off lol

But i also hate these videos where its clear who the threat is and they wanna play cute. At least it was live to boo it lol.

[stark skiff]

Other stuff I picked up

[golden plover]

So Tamiyo is bugged on arena rn in a way that makes her VERY strong

The +2s stack if you don't attack

I guess it's not a huge buff, but love how we can't get an update without random cards getting bugged

[sleek ferry]

I really hate the insta kill Vraska decks

holy

this is more frustrating than vsing rotpriest decks

[twilit canyon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/580869801589604397/1275862023489454131/yzvaj0407x9d1.png?ex=66c76e9a&is=66c61d1a&hm=78062864857e11b95696f2dd888cfa5746da78679cacb5d082e0ca14cc204340&

[gritty nest]

I like this

[golden plover]

God I just lost to a stupid ass Lurrus [[,Tainted Pact]] Thoracle highlander deck. Forgot that Thoracle is "greater than or equal to" and not just greater than

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/ody/164/tainted-pact

Tainted Pact <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manab:292901508872273920>

Instant
Exile the top card of your library. You may put that card into your hand unless it has the same name as another card exiled this way. Repeat this process until you put a card into your hand or you exile two cards with the same name, whichever comes first.

[golden plover]

Should've remembered that killing the Thoracle doesn't save you

[lusty trench]

Dear lord how much I would like thassas oracle more if it had to be on the battlefield when it's effect resolves

[golden plover]

Yeah honestly

It's fucked up you can just kill the Thoracle and 0 = 0 so they still get a win

[twilit canyon]

we invented tishana's tidebinder for this purpose

[golden plover]

Can't play Tidebinder if I'm on lurrus

[twilit canyon]

ergo, you shouldnt be on lurrus

[golden plover]

Nah, literally all the top decks in the format are on lurrus

[twilit canyon]

thats not true though?

[golden plover]

Turns out he's still very good post-nerf

[twilit canyon]

the top decks in timeless are not on lurrus

[golden plover]

Show and Tell is the only one that isn't

[twilit canyon]

neither is energy

[golden plover]

Mardu Energy is

[twilit canyon]

they shouldnt be

[golden plover]

And it's the better build

[twilit canyon]

its not either

[golden plover]

Dimir Control is best deck in the format rn imo

And it's also on lurrus

[twilit canyon]

not at all

[golden plover]

The Dimir deck does everything

[twilit canyon]

if you are talking about the tempo list with psychic frog, that one is on grief

and troll

[golden plover]

Nah, that list is outdated

People are on the Lurrus version now

Nethergoyf does more than enough and you don't necessarily need grief when you can win with Frog, OBM, and Goyf

[twilit canyon]

thats not why you play grief scam

grief frog is strong since frog will get to come in unimpeded

[golden plover]

Yeah, but grief scam isn't the Dimir deck that's good now

[twilit canyon]

and if you're on control, you are on tidebinder

[golden plover]

It's the Lurrus list that's doing way better

[twilit canyon]

100%

4 of mandatory

this is a format that requires you to be on that card

if we are looking at popularity

boros energy is more popular than mardu as well

black doesnt add enough and phlage consistency is huge

the beanstalk revels deck is also extremely popular

and that deck is on kaheera or yorion

[golden plover]

That deck is popular, but it feels like it's been falling off imo

It's really greedy and gets shut down by the better decks

[twilit canyon]

it isnt

its the opposite of greed thanks to beans

and revels also

since you need to answer both or u lose

[golden plover]

Deck gets easily countered tho. It's good, but it loses to Dimir Frog and struggles to get online before either energy can kill it

[twilit canyon]

its the worst match up for energy

energy cant interact on the right axis against this deck

frog also struggles without grief vs this

you get blown out hard by subtlety or solitude going +2

[lusty trench]

Since when is urabrasks forge money

[golden plover]

Energy just goes wide against it. And Frog just shuts it down hard

[lusty trench]

I got like 8 of the damn things

[twilit canyon]

standard meta

[golden plover]

Good in standard

[lusty trench]

Ahh

[twilit canyon]

how do u go wide vs fury

[golden plover]

You do struggle against fury, but you vexing bauble them g2

Deck goes so much slower once Bauble is online