could be wrong though
#Magic the Gathering
fallow citrus
twilit canyon
it is legal
reprinted in the big score part of the sheet
so its standard legal rn
zinc shard
golden plover
rigid scarab
Kinnan, Slicer, Winota, Teferi
golden plover
The eldrazi precon commander's mana cost is disgusting
rigid scarab
HYDROGEN BOMB VS COUGHING BABIES
golden plover
I hate it and I hope they delete him from the game
Here you can actually read his effect
Boring AF, but I can't tell what it costs
Notably our first printed card with "Kindred"
rigid scarab
Hopefully reading the effect?
||Devoid||
||Whenever you cast an Eldrazi spell, you may pay {c}{c}. If you do, copy all spells you control, then copy all other activated and triggered abilities you control. You may choose new targets for the copies.||
fallow citrus
is it 5c I can't really tell
golden plover
It's 5c
rigid scarab
is it 5c I can't really tell
Its WUBRG but you can pay colorless for all of them
fallow citrus
oh cool
rigid scarab
Its so you can play the poopy BFZ devoid eldrazi
golden plover
Hopefully reading the effect?
||Devoid||
||Whenever you cast an Eldrazi spell,...
I think that's a 4?
As in {C}{4}
rigid scarab
No its definitely 2?
I think if you need 5 mana
Thats just a straight up crap commander
golden plover
The two symbols look slightly different
Also I doubt they'd give you the ability to copy your entire board at CC
rigid scarab
Eldritch Immunity
||Instant||
||Target creature you control gains protection from each other spell until end of turn.||
||Overload {4}{c}||
rigid scarab
Also I doubt they'd give you the ability to copy your entire board at CC
Its copying ||spells|| not creatures
golden plover
Oh true. Still feels like it'd be too good for a 5C goodstuff commander
rigid scarab
I mean keep in mind its only on ||casting eldrazi||
golden plover
golden plover
I mean keep in mind its only on ||casting eldrazi||
Ehh true, he's probably turbo dog shit then
I just hate that mana cost
golden plover
Llhurgoyf tribal??? The fuck?
rigid scarab
To me playing colourless commanders is way too cool for me to consider running him
rigid scarab
Did jund really do self mill
rigid scarab
On brand for simic
rigid scarab
I take it over "When thing happens, draw card"
"When thing happens, play land"
We're so close to a simic commander that just reads like
"If you would draw a card, draw two instead. You may play an additional land on each of your turns."
golden plover
Oh wait the simic one is every land type, not just basics. Still lame shit but also didn't that break the rules last time?
rigid scarab
In what instance
golden plover
[[Nearby Planet]]
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Land
Rangeling (This card is every land type, including Plains, Island, Swamp, Mountain, Forest, Desert, Gate, Lair, Locus, and all those Urza's ones.)
Nearby Planet enters the battlefield tapped.
When Nearby Planet enters the battlefield, sacrifice it unless you pay 
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"Here's a nice place we haven't hit yet." āCaptain Rex Nebula
golden plover
Oh huh, the Jund one just says ||"create a tarmogoyf token",|| doesn't define it. Hope we're not moving to more non-defined tokens like Garth
sudden lava
Yay tomorrow's thursday, commander day
copper pecan
Oh huh, the Jund one just says ||"create a tarmogoyf token",|| doesn't define it...
i really doubt they'll do a lot of these
modern horizons is aimed at super enfranchised players so it's allowed to do really weird shit
lusty trench
||oblivion sower at the mythic slot|| oh yeah this is legit
lusty trench
But it's 2/W 2/U etc
It's an existing one though so
Only issue is the mana base which is gonna be
Yeah
I'm amazed at how well nuked these images are
Like damn you minimize and then maximize it over and over in photoshop
golden plover
Wouldn't be a leak without the cards being unreadable
golden plover
i really doubt they'll do a lot of these
Probably not, but the only ones that've done this in the past fully spell out the card
It's a weird change to see it just say "make a goyf"
fallow citrus
fimsh
twilit canyon
merfolk time
lusty trench
twilit canyon
they boutta clear the meta
lusty trench
Forgot to spoiler it there we go
fallow citrus
she mer on my folk till I islandwalk
lusty trench
Local professor found with a grin from ear to ear
golden plover
This card fucks
lusty trench
Flavour text is a fancy "fuck your blood moon we fish moon now"
fallow citrus
š
lusty trench
Apparently the colourless card next to the portrait art card in the previous leak is a ||colourless elemental blast||
sudden lava
List of possible unrevealed ACR cards found on Game Knights Archidekt page.
Animus already shown tho
note its a rumor
trail anvil
damn that's crazy lmao
stark skiff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9eyXuKOpwE&ab_channel=TheCommandZone
why the hell would they allow kinnan lmfao
rigid scarab
why the hell would they allow kinnan lmfao
Its cedh
stark skiff
except like none of the other commanders are cedh lol
or even close to kinna
just saw game 1 and it looked like typical kinnan.
rigid scarab
It's incredibly surreal to have play by play narration of cedh gameplay
rigid scarab
except like none of the other commanders are cedh lol
Its hydrogen bomb vs coughing babies
Closest competition is winota
I think deadass Etali would have done better in that pod
stark skiff
Closest competition is winota
obviously just a terrible episode for it to be titled cedh
rigid scarab
If you look at the decklists they're certainly more powerful than anything you'd see on GK
And at least all the commanders have been considered to be or were once viable
stark skiff
im shocked josh didnt use Thrasios
glad peak
Wait is winota no longer good?
stark skiff
he used Thrasios combo in some other channel and infinite'd so he knows what to do
rigid scarab
Probably the best Boros commander?
stark skiff
so him picking that deck seems like a total throw
glad peak
Also slicer and tef in a video to showcase cedh is 
rigid scarab
Slicer is probably my last pick out of the cedh meta to represent the format
Not even a partner commander?
stark skiff
yeah Josh used Thrasios/Vial Smasher. so he knows how to infinite. this episode just seems poorly done tbh
rigid scarab
Maybe the direction of the episode went "Let the cedh man do the cedh thing while the people known for casual get to look blown out of the water"
Because it's not like these very in-tune MTG players don't know that these aren't the greatest meta picks
stark skiff
yeah thats what shocks me about it
rigid scarab
It's almost definitely something with direction
stark skiff
maybe they just want kinnan banned 
rigid scarab
The direction definitely wanted to make the cedh content creator look like the expert in the room
glad peak
Worst part is I know the others could put up a actual good game if they wanted
glad peak
Iād be surprised if the command zone people didnāt have cedh even with the stuff they push for in the edh community
stark skiff
the comments are funny praising the episode lol
rigid scarab
The Command Zone people have outright said that they're not a fan of this big WOTC commander push
And they're literally sponsored
They did a great job with the "unwritten rules" podcast
Saying at the end of the day it all depends on what your table is like
stark skiff
Saying at the end of the day it all depends on what your table is like
yeah pretty much
rigid scarab
And these aren't strict rules but moreso reasons why some people may be a bit upset
stark skiff
my locals are all casuals but then that one guy with kinnan shows up
rigid scarab
Oh yeah pubstompers suck
glad peak
I would love to get their insight outside of their podcasts and their content making methods
I know theyāre nearby so maybe Iāll run into them in a random lgs 
stark skiff
Oh yeah pubstompers suck
the prizing isnt even good and he knows its literally not even cedh but up to him.
rigid scarab
The worst pubstompers are the ones who want to make it the fault of everyone else that they lost
rigid scarab
I know theyāre nearby so maybe Iāll run into them in a random lgs <:nyaruhodo:87...
Mudkip lives in LA?
Move over Adam we got a new mr moneybags
stark skiff
I know theyāre nearby so maybe Iāll run into them in a random lgs <:nyaruhodo:87...
id be surprised if they even hit lgs lol
stark skiff
Move over Adam we got a new mr moneybags
you?
glad peak
I work near the place they flew people out to during the viewer showcase videos, idk if theyāre still located there lol
stark skiff
I work near the place they flew people out to during the viewer showcase videos,...
they recently moved to burbank
glad peak
I thought they were there a couple years back during the viewer showcase games
stark skiff
idk if they were there before, but they moved to a new office in burbank
like a couple months ago
glad peak
Oh nice
stark skiff
Move over Adam we got a new mr moneybags
sell me your confetti foil rhystic study already 
glad peak
I know a couple shops in Burbank that play both edh and cedh maybe Iāll snipe them there lol
rigid scarab
The one time mudkip will actually play edh
stark skiff
holy crap speaking of confetti foil when did double season spike
was at like $150 now $400 lol
glad peak
Some of my less magic playing friends are finally changing from edh only players to standard players
stark skiff
Some of my less magic playing friends are finally changing from edh only players...
oh no why
lol jk
glad peak
Standardās decent for now lol
stark skiff
Mudkip wants to kill every single edh player
he'll never take me alive
glad peak
But Iām glad theyāre finally out of the āwhy did you attack me with a 1/1 Iām going to hard target you for the rest of our games togetherā state in the group
stark skiff
mudkip sell me a confetti foil rhystic study 
glad peak
Iāll make your current one confetti for free
rigid scarab
(He'll print out a foil sheet)
broken fjord
I'm kinda digging Duel Commander, as of late. Guess I just need to take a break from multiplayer for a bit.
glad peak
My friend found a bunch of rhystic studies in a book store garage sale for like $5 for the bulk package and he didnāt share 
The box was otherwise a bunch of random commons
broken fjord
You don't understand. All of their decks need each copy.
glad peak
They only play red green
They could sell it for a lot more which I think he did but to none of us 
broken fjord
If they play it fast enough, and in hushed tones, maybe they'll get away with it.
atomic harness
yeah Josh used Thrasios/Vial Smasher. so he knows how to infinite. this episode ...
Word
trail anvil
Standardās decent for now lol
what makes you say that
glad peak
Itās pretty fun right now but probably just due to a bunch of brews
trail anvil
I feel like I'm seeing a lot of the same stuff with slickshot being in a lot of games
that artifact deck that spams karnstructs seems like the most innovative thing I've seen so far
glad peak
To be fair I like decks with slickshot type cards
trail anvil
fair enough
glad peak
Played kiln fiend combo, phoenix, murktide, and shredder good stuff so it makes sense for me to like it lol
trail anvil
I never really liked them cause playing them felt like a glass cannon and playing against them felt like removal checking
and now we have a meta relevant one since it has built in evasion and plot gets around sorcery speed removal
sleek ferry
holy you guys are trolling
slicer, teferi and winota are all valid cedh options
are they kinnan? ofc not, but very few decks are
what fucked them was they had no sense of threat assessment for cedh
a lot of the plays DJ/Josh/Jimmy did were pretty questionable
golden plover
Winota has sorta fallen off, but that's because Stax is mediocre rn
But the other two are very valid, especially Slicer
twilit canyon
stax isnt too bad rn
winota's issue is she lacks black tbh
rw have strong cards but bad tutors
sleek ferry
stax has fallen off, I do agree with that
golden plover
I mean, who do you play for Mardu stax?
twilit canyon
gitrog won a recent online event on an actively bad list
golden plover
I have an answer (I play Ghen Stax in cedh here and there)
twilit canyon
if gitrog can, so can winota and slicer
golden plover
But I dunno what other options are worth running
twilit canyon
tymna jeska
sleek ferry
CEDH has favored a midrange game for a good while now, even Codie is building for the long game now
and I would actively put Codie above winota currently
twilit canyon
look at my ukkima list rn
primer list
its adapted entirely to midrangr
it only makes sense
sleek ferry
yeah, I mean that's the meta now, it only makes sense like you said
twilit canyon
this doesnt invalidate aggressive playstyles or stax
it means u need a plan for a game going long
golden plover
I guess there's Zurgo? But he's not great
And yeah, Tymna Jeska is probably your best bet
There's also Tymna Vial Smasher, but I dunno what she really adds for you
sleek ferry
Slicer can definitely do stuff, and even top 4 a tournament, but slicer is probably the most matchup dependent imo
sleek ferry
Slicer puts everybody on a clock yeah, but it shines even more the more ad naus decks you have at the table
twilit canyon
hes a clock yes. gives stax pieces a true finality
twilit canyon
Slicer puts everybody on a clock yeah, but it shines even more the more ad naus ...
not just naus. one ring and necro are hurt too
sleek ferry
yeah, I just said ad naus because ad naus decks are on both of those also
golden plover
Also winning off attacking is kinda an axis a lot of Cedh decks aren't prepared to combat
twilit canyon
not often on one ring but also one ring is staple in non-black
golden plover
Sure, there's a lot of removal, but combat isn't what you're trying to deal with most of the time
twilit canyon
Also winning off attacking is kinda an axis a lot of Cedh decks aren't prepared ...
not true. winota and blue farm and sisay and kenrith are famous turn sideways cards now
golden plover
I mean there's definitely more now than before
twilit canyon
theres a reason ppl been testing sfm with sworda and jitte
golden plover
But most decks are built around killing combo
sleek ferry
but rn probably the best decks are blood pod, kinnan, and that third slot is hard to say, I'm tempted to say tivit as of rn
twilit canyon
deluge, culling rit, and other board wipes have gone up in value a ton
golden plover
I've had a lot of good experiences with Roghark Yoshimaru because I'm hitting you with a 15/15 on t3 before boards are set up
twilit canyon
but rn probably the best decks are blood pod, kinnan, and that third slot is har...
?
in what
sleek ferry
cedh
blood pod is agreed by the entire communtiy to be the best deck in the format
Kinnan constantly puts up results
twilit canyon
terrible conversion rate for botg
*both
blue farm > any other deck right now
its really hard to justify tana > kraum
sleek ferry
conversion rate also takes usage into account though, what's blood pod's player count vs blue farm's player count? same for kinnan. I wouldn't be surprised if kinnan is the most played cedh deck by far
golden plover
I think cedh is actually one of the few remaining formats where things are region dependant too
twilit canyon
kinnan probs the most played for sure
golden plover
Like obviously there's very good decks that see play all over
twilit canyon
but its often get shit on in some aspects hard
golden plover
But local metas shape play too
twilit canyon
blood pods only issue is tana
if tana was as good as kraum, itd be as viabke
*viable
golden plover
Like back home I saw a lot of Yuriko, which was tough for Elsha. And around here, I'm seeing a lot more aggro decks that don't kill me fast enough
sleek ferry
I also think there's A LOT of bad kinnan players. and i would even argue kinnan is harder to pilot than both blood pod or blue farm on a micro decision level
twilit canyon
for sure
golden plover
Oh yeah, there's so many bad kinnan players
twilit canyon
kinnan not having a ton of tools hurts
golden plover
Any "best deck" in any tcg gets bad players
golden plover
Because people think they can just play the best list and know the game
twilit canyon
needing to rely on veil of summer for protection is tough
and u dont have black to snipe an abolisher or silence
play patterns on kinnan need to be super tight
golden plover
and u dont have black to snipe an abolisher or silence
Just Kenrith's transformation it, easy
golden plover
It's literally fine as long as you literally always have it
twilit canyon
steal
sleek ferry
I think in general it's really hard to find good CEDH players that push your ability to have to make those decisions in general. You can win playing bad on any of these decks, and that can just give you the fakest confidence
twilit canyon
[[praetors grasp]]
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golden plover
Oh yeah, youve got Gilded Drake and that's it
There's probably another, but I don't remember it off the top of my head
twilit canyon
but if an abolisher is in play, they arent gonna let u take it or its gonna resolve and the game ends
twilit canyon
There's probably another, but I don't remember it off the top of my head
[[flesh duplicate]]
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twilit canyon
[[phantasmal image]]
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sleek ferry
btw, shout out to [[molten duplication]]
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sleek ferry
I've been loving this card lately
twilit canyon
but again its rare to see one in play for long
golden plover
In Elsha Abolisher only comes down the turn I'm about to win
twilit canyon
its neat as a 2 mana dockside clone yea
golden plover
Rarely the turn beforehand if I'm getting greedy and know it makes it around the table
golden plover
I should try Molten Duplication in Elsha
Flash in another dockside whenever? Sounds worth it
sleek ferry
kinnan also has a good amount of tools though, you want to get mystic remora, rhystic study, TOR or consecrated sphinx down early for that extra card draw though
you also max out on clones for that reason too
golden plover
Terrible idea: MH3 gets riding the dilu horse as a reprint
If this happens I'll fit as many annoying mechanical ruling nightmare cards into a single commander deck and torture my locals with it
hidden ermine
[[Riding the dilu horse]]
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golden plover
The only sorcery in the game to not use +1/+1 counters and instead just permanently buff the stats
copper pecan
i feel like they won't do that since it's a pie break
copper pecan
true
also it's genuinely pretty good in limited
i've played against it in cube and it performs much better than you'd expect
golden plover
It's really solid as a card, yeah
copper pecan
they should make the dilu horse a card
fallow citrus
nah you can't it's being ridden
copper pecan
mounts were introduced in thunction, they can do it now
fallow citrus
the dilu horse is still in p3k though
liu bei been trying to ride it to standard but bro's stuck back there
fallow citrus
o shit nice
lusty trench
Apparently the eldrazi deck has pain lands
Huge if true
Also there's a 6 mana enchantment that copy's the eldrazis you cast apparently
copper pecan
Apparently the eldrazi deck has pain lands
i know gavin verhey has been talking about making the duals in precon decks better so that tracks
lusty trench
You know what's scarier than 1 void winnower?
It also apparently has morphon which err
I love casting my commander for nothing ty
I like how spindly they're making all the eldrazi
sleek ferry
Man, I wonder if Eldrazi will be back after this set
fallow citrus
depends
if they had something else that could ramp them into eldrazi or some more smaller ones then I could see them being an alright aggro deck
rigid scarab
In the top 10 best counterspells list where does it go
Because its definitely somewhere in there
lusty trench
Below swansong/flutter storm imo
fallow citrus
flusterstorm has a niche it fills which makes it good though
lusty trench
Yeah I just don't think this is that great
lusty trench
I could be completely misreading this cards power level because I'm mainly a spellslinger style deck player
fallow citrus
..well I guess I just discounted every blue colour combo lmfao
kind of mid even in murktide because your small dudes are red
lusty trench
But the creatures I play are there for a reason, if I'm sacing one after I've spent mana on it to counter a spell that's gonna feel awful
fallow citrus
I would rather sac my rishadan dockhand than let an important spell resolve
rigid scarab
I guess thats the thing
You're paying for the counterspell in advance
And its cmc is the creature you sac'd
fallow citrus
also it's just 3 mana so even if you draw it late it's a very playable card
card does feel like it's merfolk pushed though
lusty trench
It's probably a 1-2 mana counter spell when you think about it like that and then you're also going down a card in the exchange granted it might not be an impactful one
But yeah it's likely for the fishes
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Creature ā Merfolk Wizard
Flash
Other Merfolk you control get +1/+1.
Sacrifice a Merfolk: Counter target noncreature spell unless its controller pays .
"You're just one more pollutant to be removed from the sea."
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fallow citrus
sac a merfolk for spell pierce is even worse
lusty trench
I think this gets a pass because it's also an instant anthem and forces your opponent to play around it
fallow citrus
I think "forces my opponent to play around it" is redundant when they're going to have to play around the idea of a counterspell anyway
might be a dirty card to flash in subtlety and then sac it for a free counter
lusty trench
That's fair, but I think the idea of they might have a counter spell and have a clear way to counter on board is better than just they might have a counter spell
fallow citrus
I just think that for the archetype of deck this is made for it's nuts
and right now in modern that is basically just merfolk
lusty trench
Oh yeah if it's in a decently creature heavy blue deck it goes hard
fallow citrus
other blue decks either only play blue for spells or have cards like murktide you don't want to sac
twilit canyon
sack non token blue
its basically just for merfolk
delver cannot afford to sac a creature. neither can murktide
sleek ferry
In the top 10 best counterspells list where does it go
Youāre overrating it imo
Nontoken blue creature is a pretty big ask
fallow citrus
true
fallow citrus
going to be a very fun deck to play
lusty trench
Enjoy a shit meme
trail anvil
fuck this is gonna be terrible to deal with in hbrawl lol. are mh3 cards in historic or we don't know yet?
lusty trench
twilit canyon
historic and timeless
lusty trench
The leaker is an average r/freemagic user so I censored the text
trail anvil
I like how we're just giving the already powerful eldrazi duplication of their crazy effects 
"you thought one emrakul was enough"
lusty trench
He's called ulamog the ceaseless hunger not ulamog the "stops at two meals" hunger
Honestly with this deck I don't think I can combine my zhuldock into it so ig I'm just proxying the titans to use in this
fallow citrus
necropotence but worse yeah
lusty trench
I mean it's not as good but once upon a wind is once upon a wind
lusty trench
He blasting onto the scene
fallow citrus
thats so cool it's in modern now
pulsar talon
Wait when do you have to discard for hand size?
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fallow citrus
it's literally the very end of your turn
trail anvil
oh shit this is nice in some brawl decks
fallow citrus
you get your endstep then have to go into cleanup after
pulsar talon
I see
lusty trench
You do it at the end after you've cast all spells you want to at instant speed and all end of turn effects have triggered
pulsar talon
How often do you just draw 15+ off this?
lusty trench
You go deep on this and then cast whatever you want with once upon a wind
trail anvil
doesn't this have a very similar problem as necropotence, the big differences being more effects punish drawing and the hand size restriction means 2 less cards
lusty trench
In modern specifically idk how playable this is but cedh can probably use it
fallow citrus
it has more of an issue than necropotence because your opponents can just remove this when you play it
trail anvil
oh right
fallow citrus
necro you can at least spam the triggers in response
lusty trench
Yeah it's easily worse than necropotence
trail anvil
nvm that's a pretty big difference
fallow citrus
you can't even use this for reanimator because it exiles your stuff
so yeah I just don't see this being modern playable
unless I'm missing something big
twilit canyon
im sure necrodominance will still be busted
pulsar talon
oh wait
i didnt read at the beginning of your end step
i thought it just like
drew 19 and you killed them
fallow citrus
just thought
sapphire medallion print in modern, are we gonna see a high tide leak soon
twilit canyon
i will personally break into their head quarters and ask to talk if they print high tide into modern
fallow citrus
just think about how fun that could be
lusty trench
sapphire medallion print in modern, are we gonna see a high tide leak soon
All the medallions are in apparently
Necrodominance plus sheoldred
Pay 15 life draw 15 gain 30
golden plover
Is Kappa gonna be a problem in modern?
He seems like a potentially problematic card
twilit canyon
canoneer?
meh
no affinity lands no sol lands
no mopal
card will probs do little
golden plover
There's the bridges and some of the other stuff tho
fallow citrus
affinity isn't real in modern right now so it'll just make it a tiny bit better
I guess because of [[simulacrum synthesizer]] it gets a bit better too
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lusty trench
fallow citrus
twilit canyon
fallow citrus
gilded drake died in p3k
gilded drake born in mh3
golden plover
Huh that one isn't a commander card
lusty trench
Ayo that's really nice
broken fjord
Thief hits one ring, so it's still nice
fallow citrus
Pearl-Ear seems really cool
broken fjord
Stormdrake is just another gilded drake in cedh, yeah? Most creatures are 4 and under
fallow citrus
yeah
think the important part though is it's gilded drake in modern
also if you play multiple it means that like
you steal drc the first cast lets say
second stormdrake can take something with 7cmc
which just so happens to be murktide lmao
broken fjord
It's removal in the worst case, which isn't the worst thing ever
fallow citrus
it's a very cool card that I'm interested to see in use
sleek ferry
If theyāre pushing 3-5 color Eldrazi builds
Donāt filter duals prob just go up in price?
lusty trench
New info apparently there's a land that imprints a 7 cost or higher card to tap for 2
fallow citrus
perhaps but depending on which ones are good it might just end up being mono + colourless
like green e-tron
copper pecan
in what way?
twilit canyon
non creature nonland
copper pecan
green can remove nonland noncreature permanents
golden plover
Oh I missed noncreature
Also, Shilgengar is the demon that convinced Edgar to feed his family the angels to become vampires
sleek ferry
Gengar is always up to no good smh
golden plover
Also Pearl Ear helped steal [[That Which Was Taken]]
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Legendary Artifact
, 
: Put a divinity counter on target permanent other than That Which Was Taken.
Each permanent with a divinity counter on it has indestructible.
"This god held prisoner in human hands has put all humanity in the hands of angry gods." āMasako the Humorless
trail anvil
pearl-ear looks really fun as a commander
sudden lava
I went through misery
My 1 commander game for the week, nearly 2 hours of being handcuffed by the Kwain player
fallow citrus
trail anvil
detective's phoenix
Haste
If this card is in your graveyard: Sacrifice a clue, return it to the battlefield.
this isn't the actual effect, but it probably will be something close
twilit canyon
aint no way brainstorm
is getting printed into modern
thats just an absurd cantrip power level spike
trail anvil
wait lmao it wasn't there before? how did I pass over that
fallow citrus
people are saying most likely it's just a reprint in one of the commander decks
twilit canyon
oh i hope so
cus itd be ridiculous to add brainstorm but leave ponder banned at that point and completely powercreeps a lot
fallow citrus
[[cephalid coliseum]]
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Land
: Add 
. Cephalid Coliseum deals 1 damage to you.
Threshold ā , , Sacrifice Cephalid Coliseum: Target player draws three cards, then discards three cards. Activate only if seven or more cards are in your graveyard.
atomic harness
Cephalid is the goat
golden plover
aint no way brainstorm
I'm p sure the leaker is using precon cards to go "Oh look what's in modern"
Considering Brainstorm is a card that's been discussed being banned for power level reasons in Legacy
Wotc has said before that Brainstorm would be banned in Legacy realistically, but it's only not because it's a format staple
golden plover
God they're going so hard on making that one commander deck boomer jund
Also, this answers my question that had me worried
Goyf is now a defined token
lusty trench
I like how reading the deck description of fill grave and then avenge the dead gives you 0 idea that itās just goyf
Itās all goyf
golden plover
Wait no that's a rules change
The reminder text isn't rules text and the defined token has a mana cost
They're doing something fucky with token rules this set
fallow citrus
maybe they're just giving it a defined mana cost so you cant do like [[engineered explosives]] for 0
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Artifact
Sunburst (This enters the battlefield with a charge counter on it for each color of mana spent to cast it.)
, Sacrifice Engineered Explosives: Destroy each nonland permanent with mana value equal to the number of charge counters on Engineered Explosives.
golden plover
Yeah but tokens haven't had defined mana costs outside of Squad and Copies
This includes tokens that are 1:1 cards like Ajani's Pridemate and Lllanowar Elves
copper pecan
i'm so glad that they're bringing back kindred
fallow citrus
Yeah but tokens haven't had defined mana costs outside of Squad and Copies
I know, just giving a reason as to why they might have done it
could be a powerful remover for 0 mana cards/tokens in this set, who knows
golden plover
True. Still a weird change
zinc shard
man this is literally "Jund: the deck"
twilit canyon
this is great. im glad i tossed this suggestion enough times to where wotc listened. its been a big issue for arena players building super mid decks and having no idea how to go about building for a format.
wait this may be a new feature from untapped
not wotc
lol
some day
surely
zinc shard
twilit canyon
???
this card is so confusing
i know its just your graveyard
but thats still insanely good?
raw a t1 1/2 with a fetch
this mfer only ever gets better though
possible 1 mana 2/3
not super difficult to be a 1 mana 3/4
lusty trench
The revive also makes it more than just a stat stick like goyf is, makes it a constant threat
twilit canyon
The revive also makes it more than just a stat stick like goyf is, makes it a co...
revive isnt trivial to enable but its also not hard
this card is just good
lusty trench
If youāre making a crime deck, make it with marchesa
Sheās the only crime card that triggers more than once a turn
golden plover
Woah 1 mana escape goyf
twilit canyon
t1 bauble target yourself -> fetch if necessary -> goyf
gg ragavan
cycle street wraith in response to a bolt
copper pecan
twilit canyon
lmfao
twilit canyon
found a fun little bug
whenever id move a card from the bottom to the top of the sb
i would create many eidolons
if moving from top to bottom the same would happen but not as many eidolons
it also wouldnt save the sb moves
until i clicked done
it would also clear the copies if leaving the sb screen
fallow citrus
average burn player
sudden lava
Already leaked, but now it isnt a potato
lusty trench
Oh wow
trail anvil
hybrid with colorless looks cool tho
copper pecan
having them not be 2s is way less bad imo
copper pecan
this would be awful in a colorless deck if you needed to pay 10 mana to use it
twilit canyon
unplayable
lowest you could realistically cast this for in a deck like tron would be 8
copper pecan
i feel like it would be really wack for a legendary eldrazi to not be usable in a colorless commander deck
especially when the precon it's in is colorless
lusty trench
especially when the precon it's in is colorless
To be fair we donāt know that yet
The deck apparently has the pain lands too
So thereās probably more to it that colourless
golden plover
The 2s would look bad too but at least we've already got [[Reaper King]]
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Legendary Artifact Creature ā Scarecrow
(
can be paid with any two mana or with 
. This card's mana value is 10.)
Other Scarecrow creatures you control get +1/+1.
Whenever another Scarecrow enters the battlefield under your control, destroy target permanent.
It's harvest time.
6/6
golden plover
Either way, this is custom-magic mana
copper pecan
just because they haven't done it before doesn't mean that they shouldn't do it
fallow citrus
everything is custom magic because wotc can print whatever they want in their game lmao
I've never understood this complaint
granite badge
escape is such a underused mechanic imo
golden plover
I just think WUBRG hybrid looks ugly af
It's realistically fine
But like, it just looks gross
golden plover
Escape is either unplayable or BROKEN
fallow citrus
[[uro]]
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fallow citrus
but yeah you have [[uro, titan of nature's wrath]] for example
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Legendary Creature ā Elder Giant
When Uro enters the battlefield, sacrifice it unless it escaped.
Whenever Uro enters the battlefield or attacks, you gain 3 life and draw a card, then you may put a land card from your hand onto the battlefield.
Escapeā
, Exile five other cards from your graveyard. (You may cast this card from your graveyard for its escape cost.)
6/6
fallow citrus
[[ox of agonas]]
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Creature ā Ox
When Ox of Agonas enters the battlefield, discard your hand, then draw three cards.
Escapeā
, Exile eight other cards from your graveyard. (You may cast this card from your graveyard for its escape cost.)
Ox of Agonas escapes with a +1/+1 counter on it.
4/2
golden plover
And [[Kroxa, Titan of Whatever]] to a lesser extent
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golden plover
[[Kroxa, Titan of]]
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Legendary Creature ā Elder Giant
When Kroxa enters the battlefield, sacrifice it unless it escaped.
Whenever Kroxa enters the battlefield or attacks, each opponent discards a card, then each opponent who didn't discard a nonland card this way loses 3 life.
Escapeā
, Exile five other cards from your graveyard. (You may cast this card from your graveyard for its escape cost.)
6/6
fallow citrus
but yeah escape is solidly in the camp of storm to me
where it's fine if they print some but they shouldn't start making it everywhere
golden plover
Yeah, outside of draft chaff escape is a SCARY mechanic
I think the big isuse is they undervalued how much mana most escapes should cost
They definitely overcosted Escape Elspeth but even stuff like [[Cling to Dust]] was too problematic in Standard
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Instant
Exile target card from a graveyard. If it was a creature card, you gain 3 life. Otherwise, you draw a card.
Escapeā
, Exile five other cards from your graveyard. (You may cast this card from your graveyard for its escape cost.)
In bleak Tizerus, all hope crumbles in your grasp.
golden plover
TBD was slept on, but this set was kinda crazy in Standard
copper pecan
i don't think cling was problematic, it was just good
golden plover
It was a little too good, but that's also because of the other escape cards
It wasn't like banworthy, but it's a card that was supposed to be draft chaft and it was everywhere
[[Chainweb Arcahnir]] was also too good for Draft chaft
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Creature ā Spider
Reach
When Chainweb Aracnir enters the battlefield, it deals damage equal to its power to target creature with flying an opponent controls.
Escapeā, Exile four other cards from your graveyard. (You may cast this card from your graveyard for its escape cost.)
Chainweb Aracnir escapes with three +1/+1 counters on it.
1/2
twilit canyon
it was a perfectly serviceable card
it doesnt do anything in formats anymore really
maybe just pioneer
but that format isnt really real
golden plover
I'm not saying it should have been banned, but it was EVERYWHERE in standard
Arcanir sometimes sees pioneer play
twilit canyon
context of the format
golden plover
I just intentionally picked two very weak cards with escape
To pinpoint that escape on otherwise mediocre cards ends up making them VERY good
twilit canyon
this is ignoring the actual mid cards with escape that never became good anyways
aracnir is not a mid card its arguably a better version of existing green hate pieces
same with cling to dust
thats a playable card without escape
golden plover
I mean, I did mention that escape was also sometimes just really bad
twilit canyon
that disqualifies the mecahnic from being unplayable or broken
kroxa is fine
cling is fine
golden plover
Kroxa was a problem in standard and pioneer for years
twilit canyon
kroxa is fair
golden plover
So it wasn't banworthy
But like, Kroxa was really strong its entire time in standard
twilit canyon
if kroxa was the most broken card in that standard, we would have had a super fair format
twilit canyon
and we leave fire design behind now and have for a few years and where is kroxa?
fine
but not broken
often cut in many deck slots
no room for it
golden plover
Escape is just really hard to balance is more of the point
Too good and you get Uro and Breach
twilit canyon
id argue uro is fine now
card sees no play in timeless
its washed
too much mana and too many requirements for the card to be good
its also not seeing any play in legacy atm and sultai is meta
golden plover
I honestly don't see it being fine considering it's banned in modern
golden plover
Timeless is way higher power level than most formats
golden plover
Yeah, but Uro is another card that gets better based on the power of the format
Uro is better in older formats because there's way easier ways to escape him quickly
twilit canyon
and yet it sees no play in them
vintage can t1 or t2 uro
yet they dont
its too weak
legacy has a meta sultai deck focused on midrange
and it sees no play
i think the only deck in legacy with uro
is bant beans
and its not great
timeless doesnt run it either even with rituals and fetches and baubles
it would also not have a real home in modern
uro has an awful match up into [[dauthi voidwalker]] too
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Creature ā Dauthi Rogue
Shadow (This creature can block or be blocked by only creatures with shadow.)
If a card would be put into an opponent's graveyard from anywhere, instead exile it with a void counter on it.
, Sacrifice Dauthi Voidwalker: Choose an exiled card an opponent owns with a void counter on it. You may play it this turn without paying its mana cost.
3/2
twilit canyon
and it isnt like they have had a hard time designing new cards with escape
[[lunar hatchling]]
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Creature ā Alien Beast
Flying, trample
Basic landcycling (, Discard this card: Search your library for a basic land card, reveal it, put it into your hand, then shuffle.)
Escapeā, Exile a land you control, Exile five other cards from your graveyard. (You may cast this card from your graveyard for its escape cost.)
6/6
twilit canyon
[[grim captains locker]]
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Legendary Artifact
: Surveil 1. (Look at the top card of your library. You may put it into your graveyard.)
: Until end of turn, each creature card in your graveyard gains "Escapeā, Exile four other cards from your graveyard." (You may cast a card with escape from your graveyard for its escape cost.)
twilit canyon
[[from the catacombs]]
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Sorcery
Put target creature card from a graveyard onto the battlefield under your control with a corpse counter on it. If that creature would leave the battlefield, exile it instead of putting it anywhere else.
You take the initiative.
Escapeā, Exile five other cards from your graveyard. (You may cast this card from your graveyard for its escape cost.)
twilit canyon
[[skyward robber]]
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Creature ā Bird Rogue
Flying
Escapeā, Exile five other cards from your graveyard. (You may cast this card from your graveyard for its escape cost.)
Skyway Robber escapes with "Whenever Skyway Robber deals combat damage to a player, you may cast an artifact, instant, or sorcery spell from among cards exiled with Skyway Robber without paying its mana cost."
3/3
twilit canyon
[[charred graverobber]]
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Creature ā Skeleton Mercenary
When Charred Graverobber enters the battlefield, return target outlaw card from your graveyard to your hand.
Escapeā, Exile four other cards from your graveyard. (You may cast this card from your graveyard for its escape cost.)
Charred Graverobber escapes with a +1/+1 counter on it.
3/1
zinc shard
fallow citrus
wait is this just [[calibrated blast]] for standard
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Instant
Reveal cards from the top of your library until you reveal a nonland card. Put the revealed cards on the bottom of your library in a random order. When you reveal a nonland card this way, Calibrated Blast deals damage equal to that card's mana value to any target.
Flashback (You may cast this card from your graveyard for its flashback cost. Then exile it.)
trail anvil
MDFC land spotted š
trail anvil
I'm really hype
copper pecan
i'm so excited for this set
modern horizons preview season feels like a magical time where anything is possible
fallow citrus
yeah it's a very fun time for spoilers
copper pecan
i remember when [[urza's saga]] was revealed and everyone lost their shit
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Enchantment Land ā Urza's Saga
(As this Saga enters and after your draw step, add a lore counter. Sacrifice after III.)
I ā Urza's Saga gains ": Add 
."
II ā Urza's Saga gains ", : Create a 0/0 colorless Construct artifact creature token with 'This creature gets +1/+1 for each artifact you control.'"
III ā Search your library for an artifact card with mana cost 
or , put it onto the battlefield, then shuffle.
twilit canyon
very powerful card, but its also such a cool design
fallow citrus
the best kind of card
I love the immediate cope on the post with meltdown saying that this means they're bringing arti lands back lmfao
not a chance
although it would be fun
fallow citrus
yep
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Artifact
Worn Powerstone enters the battlefield tapped.
: Add .
Even a fragment of a powerstone contains within it not just energy, but spaceāvast dimensions trapped in fragile crystal.
golden plover
[[Breya, Etherium Shaper]] is in the goyf pack
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Legendary Artifact Creature ā Human
When Breya, Etherium Shaper enters the battlefield, create two 1/1 blue Thopter artifact creature tokens with flying.
, Sacrifice two artifacts: Choose one ā
ā¢ Breya deals 3 damage to target player or planeswalker.
ā¢ Target creature gets -4/-4 until end of turn.
ā¢ You gain 5 life.
4/4
lusty trench
Ayo that's pretty gooood
For casual commander it's probably not doing anything elsewhere
golden plover
Instant
Exile the top three cards of your library. You may play those cards this turn. At the beginning of the next end step, if any of them remain exiled, create a 0/1 colorless Eldrazi token with the eldrazi sacrifice text
The Breya art is sick
lusty trench
Breya on her vogue modelling arc
golden plover
MDFC land spotted š
It's murder
Destroy target creature of planeswalker
It's either 3 or 4 mana and we've gotta see what the land side does
fallow citrus
fury lmao
lusty trench
Grief is the card on the left of it
So we're likely getting the full cycle which was expected
golden plover
Yeah they're in the special guest spots
We already saw solitude
The whole cycle was expected but Fury was the only one that was maybe questionable
copper pecan
It's either 3 or 4 mana and we've gotta see what the land side does
[[hagra mauling]]... TWO!
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Instant
This spell costs less to cast if an opponent controls no basic lands.
Destroy target creature.
"Din, turn around! Now!" āDoros, expedition guide
Hagra Broodpit
Land
Hagra Broodpit enters the battlefield tapped.
: Add .
"I think we somehow got turned around." āDoros, expedition guide
twilit canyon
this time the land comes in untapped
golden plover
I mean, we don't know that
It's already one cheaper
But looks like the land is G
fallow citrus
this time the land comes in untapped
for the low low cost of 3 life obviously
twilit canyon
death's shadow buff
lusty trench
It's black
fallow citrus
crop rot in modern no way
oh nvm
comments said apparently in the video it was a dmr copy of the card this guy is just hiding to bait people
glad peak
Yeah Iām hearing that a lot of the leaks without visual on the icon is bait
golden plover
I think the leaker has been doing that a lot
Like I'd wager Kappa and Brainstorm were also him trying to bait people
copper pecan
yeah given how recently gavin verhey said that wotc considers kappa to have been a mistake i wouldn't be surprised if it was bait
golden plover
He also said he didn't have enough time to show off the uncommons in one video
And then said "whoops wasn't supposed to show that yet" in the Breya one
Dude is intentionally being an ass
lusty trench
Another leaker confirmed that cannoneer isnāt in modern
golden plover
He's totally sprinkling in random cards that would be broken in modern for attention
I'm gonna need to see the set icon stamp on a card to believe it
urban crane
Managed to get it at LGs
lusty trench
Rootin tootin turn 2 shootin
copper pecan
currently labbing a combo between [[caustic bronco]] and [[shadow of mortality]]
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Creature ā Avatar
If your life total is less than your starting life total, this spell costs 
less to cast, where X is the difference.
"Build your towers as tall as you want. The shadow always reaches higher." āMessage scrawled on an alley wall
7/7
copper pecan
i don't think it's consistent enough for competitive play but it is very funny
urban crane
Managed to get it at LGs
My sample booster pulls
golden plover
i don't think it's consistent enough for competitive play but it is very funny
Someone took this to the pro tour
copper pecan
oh damn i guess i wasn't as original as i thought i was
zinc shard
copper pecan
oh this is way better than what i was doing
i was in mono black and was just running a bunch of surveil cards
golden plover
Could always play with their list then and see if you like it
zinc shard
golden plover
Oh they brought back the ugly side view for the showcase style
That confirms there's some form of K'rrik in the set
lusty trench
I like this one cause it looks like that one comic
golden plover
Since we saw his side view on one of the art cards
lusty trench
Hold on
golden plover
I think it's super hit or miss
lusty trench
golden plover
There's a ton of them that looked really bad in commander masters because it's hard to identify who it is
But hey at least my useless son Talrand got one
It worked great for Mikaeus
But it was awful for all the regular humans like Teysa and Selvala
lusty trench
"I am the bridge between the bulk rares and consumer, spellslingers and pack openers alike crumble at my whim."
golden plover
Like the regular people just aren't distinctive enough for it to matter
Pop quiz: Who is who out of these three
Answers: ||Yuriko, Azusa, Azami||
trail anvil
actually I got those right
azusa has a pretty distinct hair clip and those earrings (?) and hair loop are enormous
yuriko was probably just a lucky guess though cause of her hairstyle
trail anvil
she does have the tattoo on her chin
golden plover
Oh true, I always forget about her tattoo
trail anvil
oh yeah yuriko also has that weird claw staff
golden plover
I'm torn on the style tho, sometimes it's good and other times it's not
trail anvil
I'd probably get the azusa one, she looks gorgeous in that
fallow citrus
maybe I'm in the minority but I really like the side profile idea
golden plover
It's really good on distinctive ones like
Neheb looks cool as hell like this
Don't think it worked for the Titans tho unfortunately
Like this just kinda becomes a blob of... Whatever
Really hard to tell what's going on here
fallow citrus
yeah I don't think they work on the titans
golden plover
I think my favorites tho are the Neheb, The Mikaeus, and the Tatyova
Like this really works for her because she's very distinctive
Selvala was kind of a miss tho
Same with Kykar
Like he just looks weird here
fallow citrus
nah I think the kykar one is good
golden plover
I just think he looks silly like that
fallow citrus
can't say I see it personally
fallow citrus
it's more of a look you'd get if it was embossed on a coin or something so not really a side profile portrait
golden plover
Well there's some on Domiaria
But his regular art doesn't strike me as Domiarian
He kinda looks like he's from Mu and Jiang's plane based on the outfit?
fallow citrus
with that art I would argue the side profile improves the card's look
golden plover
Yeah, I think his arts have kinda both been misses so far
He's interesting tho, I'd like the see a new take on him in the future
Hmm.. he's not Jeskai
He can't be from Tarkir, since their Aven don't have hands
Really leaves either old Kamigawa and he's long dead or Mu's Home plane
trail anvil
I like all them but Kozilek
I'm glad they did this style cause it's unique even if it did get mixed reviews
copper pecan
Really leaves either old Kamigawa and he's long dead or Mu's Home plane
neither of those planes have been shown to have aven
i think kikar is probably from somewhere we haven't been
golden plover
We don't really know much about Shenmeng
It's possible Shenmeng does have Aven
The wiki says they're maybe from Amonkhet but that's def wrong
Amonkhet aven are almost all falcons
stark skiff
Oh they brought back the ugly side view for the showcase style
i think theyre all ugly lol
trail anvil
even neheb? that skull detail fucks
stark skiff
yeah Mikaeus is like the best one imo
trail anvil
mikaeus looks like he's on the demon days cover, but in a good way
lusty trench
Apparently we have the red and black flares as well as a new ulamog and the other eldrazi face commander, though unconfirmed due to no images
Someone on mtgrumours has compiled a doc of the leaks though if you want to read them
golden plover
Same person said the 5c precon's manabase is dogshit
lusty trench
My thoughts on it are the black flare is good because you can sac grief to it, the red one is okay, ulamog is complete dog water and the other face commander is funny
lusty trench
Same person said the 5c precon's manabase is dogshit
Tradition fulfilled
lusty trench
I read ulamog and was just like āthis could be in standard and do absolutely nothingā
lusty trench
Uro in the simic deck
Reaver cleaver in one of the decks (3 are red)
And archon of cruelty in jund
Black farewell in the jund deck
copper pecan
what do you mean by black farewell?
like is it actually just farewell but black or what?
lusty trench
It destroys creatures, planes walkers, battles, exiles graves and counters on players
Thankfully not exile
copper pecan
oh okay
stark skiff
Uro in the simic deck
Reaver cleaver in one of the decks (3 are red)
And archon ...
damnit just picked up the archon lol
sleek ferry
Yours is holo no?
stark skiff
yeah
sleek ferry
Shouldnāt really have any effect on the holo price
stark skiff
oh thought itd be part of the boosters
lusty trench
Reprints don't make it to main set/collector boosters
Ulamog confirmed real, the leaker chose to make their own mock images, but the alternative eldrazi commander matches up
stark skiff
Reprints don't make it to main set/collector boosters
Ah thanks. Didnt know.
zinc shard
Farewell for Black
urban crane
Destroy al battles?
twilit canyon
looks to maybe be just 5
subtle sierra
the black mana icon seems to be a little on the left, so i kinda see it being 2 of them
but ig it can be 5 too
zinc shard
oh apparently this is an edh card
atomic harness
modern minnow
ngl i kinda wish that the portrait cards had some form of background might be controversial
stark skiff
Finally picked up this baby.
atomic harness
Finally picked up this baby.
Wow kid I hope you have hexproof effects too
stark skiff
Wow kid I hope you have hexproof effects too
whats that
urban crane
Finally picked up this baby.
This seems fun fair and balanced
stark skiff
This seems fun fair and balanced
it is. It dies to a literal 1 mana cost spell in Swords to Plowshares or Path to Exile.
urban crane
Exactly
trail anvil
man playing diamond promos makes me remember how impossible these are lmao
for some reason the moment you're about to reach that my winrate becomes 50% and the losses are all right before the promotion
and I'm getting flooded in this latest game
atomic harness
it is. It dies to a literal 1 mana cost spell in Swords to Plowshares or Path to...
This is why you need hexproof little one
urban crane
My sample booster pulls
Also love saying earlier on I have never seen something good from one of those sample packs than I get this lesson is complaining about packluck works apparently
sleek ferry
for some reason the moment you're about to reach that my winrate becomes 50% and...
I spent like 2 weeks being 1 win away from diamond once
Was literally going 50/50
copper pecan
also no name
it looks like the name is "goodbye"
trail anvil
I spent like 2 weeks being 1 win away from diamond once
glad to hear it's not just me, swear wizards has a sensor
golden plover
i assume this is like 6 mana?
It's definitely 6 mana
The black is over enough to be 4BB
copper pecan
it's 4bb
golden plover
Yup. Weird it specifies battles tho
I guess there's like no interaction for them yet
trail anvil
I think they legitimately just wanted to hit every mode that wasn't covered by farewell (graveyard and creatures overlap obv)
golden plover
Fair
Also, we somehow finally got the art for proposal?
No clue where this came from, but the card's art is known now
This is probably actually the stolen copy then, but it's weird to see the card with art regardless
sleek ferry
This was a great game https://youtu.be/LA3KYTAf6Qc?si=WmyQCZk8cof3syeH
sudden lava
Yo Brian Kibler game 
glad peak
Yo Thor gaming
sleek ferry
God damn
twilit canyon
that was yuta watanabe
glad peak
I swear someone named takahashi was banned too but I might be mixing up names again
lusty trench
One of the mh3 leakers seems to have gotten hit
Theyāre deleting their leaks and saying to instead respect the official release and await further information from wotc approved sources
sudden lava
they didnt get the pinkertons sent at least?
copper pecan
it looks like they made the decision on their own
sleek ferry
Did you guys see this 2.5 hour classic from today? https://youtu.be/ZngjRhd_t-g?si=rpdmmF5oWyQVTGqF
stark skiff
Theyāre deleting their leaks and saying to instead respect the official release ...
dude got replaced by an alien
sudden lava
bonus card from the doctor who secret lair is a 15th sonic screwdriver
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I get his ability can add sonic screwdriver from the top 3, but you would've thought Ruby Sunday would've been the bonus card.
sleek ferry
Itās a nice art at least
golden plover
Theyāre deleting their leaks and saying to instead respect the official release ...
Dude probably got threatened with legal action if he didn't tbh
Or was just scared the Pinkertons were gonna show up again
Yeah dude was forced to stop
Complete 180 take
modern minnow
most gun to head thing i have ever read
golden plover
Dude was going "Oh shit y'all gotta see this"
Then 2 days later "respect the hard work that goes into previews"
modern minnow
surprised you decide to leak with 0 opsec why does this keep happening
golden plover
I mean yeah the leaker def should have cleaned up after themselves
Although if they sent the Pinkertons again, that's fucked too
Unless the leaker outright says it, we'll likely never know
But that's a message under duress lmao
rigid scarab
The leaker also could just
Lie
To stir up conversation
I think WOTC knows by now that sending Pinkertons is 100% a PR suicide
golden plover
I mean, it didn't end up doing shit last time
rigid scarab
I see people still talking about it today
rigid scarab
Dude probably got threatened with legal action if he didn't tbh
He probably knew about what would happen
golden plover
I see people still talking about it today
Yeah but no one stopped buying cards or anything for sending the 1800s-ass villains from Red Dead after a guy over cardboard
rigid scarab
Yeah but no one stopped buying cards or anything for sending the 1800s-ass villa...
I've definitely seen people who said "Quit because pinkertons"
copper pecan
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/948945461597831218/1234554699882172508/card_y24-otj_grenzo_crooked_jailer_p3l1ul4v1aa8.png?ex=66312829&is=662fd6a9&hm=c4adc292b28109b03f49aed34a59a78074babec97df36b52435d86551652ce83&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=476&height=662
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heist is like spellbook but the spellbook is every nonland card in your opponent's deck
you do the [[siphon insight]] thing to the card you draft
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Look at the top two cards of target opponent's library. Exile one of them face down and put the other on the bottom of that library. You may look at and play the exiled card for as long as it remains exiled, and you may spend mana as though it were mana of any color to cast that spell.
Flashback
zinc shard
Saphire Collector seems crazy, since the Saphire can count towards your 2 spells a turn
golden plover
Can't you flicker it or whatever?
Also, Heist is probably a really shitty mechanic then
zinc shard
ye
golden plover
Since historically playing the opponent's cards doesn't do much for you
This doesn't even take them out of their deck
Just copies them
zinc shard
being able to cast the spells for free might make it worthwhile
copper pecan
This doesn't even take them out of their deck
it does take them out of their deck
golden plover
Maybe? But it's probably super weak unless it literally shows you their entire deck
copper pecan
card advantage is card advantage
golden plover
Yeah but historically cards with that effect have done nothing
twilit canyon
only if your opponent's deck is shit
copper pecan
[[agent of raffine]] saw a lot of play in alchemy
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Creature ā Human Rogue
, : Choose target opponent. Conjure a duplicate of the top card of their library into your hand. It perpetually gains "You may spend mana as though it were mana of any color to cast this spell." Then they exile the top card of their library face down.
1/2
copper pecan
[[clone crafter]] was also pretty decent
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