eh I think it fits
#Magic the Gathering
trail anvil
lusty trench
golden plover
And considering fancy arcane signets hold value, it's probably worth it
lusty trench
Me looking at the profs picks for best cards in commander from thunder junction was an experience
some of these cards are decent but they’re not top of the set
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I played a casual edh game for funsies
One of the players was on new obeka
Plopped down timetwister
They hit me for 5
5 timetwister triggers on the stack 
I didn"t take a single turn for like 3-4 rotations of rhe table
Then they won by making 8 token copies of loxodon warhammer
lusty trench
? How are they making copies of time twister?
Also why tf are they playing timetwister in casual
twilit canyon
timetwister has no interaction with obeka
twilit canyon
[[timetwister]]
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lusty trench
Timetwister is one of the power nine
twilit canyon
[[timesifter]]
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I was playing a hydra deck and flipped lands 3 times in a row
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https://scryfall.com/card/mrd/262/timesifter
Yeah this oops mb
twilit canyon
i love having an encyclopedic knowledge of magic cards
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Me with yugioh
twilit canyon
timesifter is kinda dogshit
but damn u got sacked if u only ever saw forests
rip
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They literally took it out of the deck the moment it got removed xd
Cause trying to resolve 5 triggers simotaniously was uhhhhh
UHHHH
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"whose turn is it again? I lost track 20 minutes ago"
twilit canyon
new obeka is so much easier to understand compared to old obeka
@clever sun and i have been testing a truly powerful version of new obeka and it flows way more cleanly
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Its simplier but I do like older obeka more tbh
This person did build it as voltron and I love voltron thougg
clever sun
Oh new Obeka doesn't need to build Voltron
That's a waste of resources Imo
I thought about it but ultimately, you only ever need the two extra upkeeps
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Probably falls off the higher power ovwrall you go I imagine yeah
clever sun
That should win the game on the spot
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It was interesting seeijg how exponetial some effects got
clever sun
Mhm
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When you had equipment that puts +1/+1 counters on upkeep
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Sorcery
Suspend 2—
(Rather than cast this card from your hand, pay and exile it with two time counters on it. At the beginning of your upkeep, remove a time counter. When the last is removed, you may cast it without paying its mana cost.)
Search your library for a card, put that card into your hand, then shuffle.
clever sun
[[Mox Tantalite]]
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Artifact
Suspend 3—
(Rather than cast this card from your hand, pay and exile it with three time counters on it. At the beginning of your upkeep, remove a time counter. When the last is removed, you may cast it without paying its mana cost.)
: Add one mana of any color.
clever sun
[[Inevitable Betrayal]]
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Sorcery
Suspend 3—
(Rather than cast this card from your hand, pay and exile it with three time counters on it. At the beginning of your upkeep, remove a time counter. When the last is removed, you may cast it without paying its mana cost.)
Search target opponent's library for a creature card and put that card onto the battlefield under your control. Then that player shuffles.
clever sun
[[Ancestral Visions]]
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Sorcery
Suspend 4— (Rather than cast this card from your hand, pay and exile it with four time counters on it. At the beginning of your upkeep, remove a time counter. When the last is removed, you may cast it without paying its mana cost.)
Target player draws three cards.
clever sun
She's actually just strong
Not sure if she's outright better than old Obeka though
And I think if I'm playing Grixis, I would do it for Inalla or Rog/Silas
At least in a tournament setting
But she has potential
twilit canyon
real
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Once said friend discovers how she works with suspend
Oh they had Profane tutor in the deck lol
clever sun
Oh then they just haven't found the line yet
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Idk how casual/comp my local edh scene is
I know a few have cedh decks
But I wom't be able to play MTG again til like
May 29th
So it doesn't really matter rn
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https://scryfall.com/card/mh2/47/inevitable-betrayal
God this is nasty
clever sun
I stole Misty's Thoracle and Profane Tutor put Consultation right to my hand the same turn
Even without it, every cEDH deck is running some nasty creature that is worth stealing
In my brief testing I've taken some Hullbreaker Horrors, Opposition Agents, Orcish Bowmasters, and Docksides
lusty trench
https://archidekt.com/decks/7253633/yeehaw for casual edh how is this looking?
atomic harness
Finally some good food
golden plover
Terrible idea: I wanna build a cube where everything has the least synergy possible
No draft archetypes because 95% of the cards are from a random draft archetype and are really parasitic
trail anvil
are these the ones where an artist goes off of a kid's drawing?
golden plover
Nah, they're diaromas
trail anvil
they are? those are pretty detailed models then
golden plover
Yeah, artist does very detailed models
lusty trench
They even have videos of the dioramas too showing what's happening in motion
For aura shards for example it shows the cat going around and destroying the room
trail anvil
that's pretty crazy
lusty trench
I gotta respect it this is one of the most intricate lairs yet
glad peak
Terrible idea: I wanna build a cube where everything has the least synergy possi...
Seems like a bomb heavy format unless you want to literally do a random power level per card thing and hope nothing works together
Otherwise there’s the bad cards only cube
golden plover
Seems like a bomb heavy format unless you want to literally do a random power le...
I'm grabbing really parasitic cards
glad peak
Most of the parasitic cards work with themselves so it’s not always too bad, you’ll have to look pretty far back or do tribes without support
golden plover
So far this is what I've got
Stuff like [[Kor Castigator]] is what I'm looking for
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golden plover
He very technically has synergy with other cards in the set, but it's not likely
sleek ferry
[[huntmaster liger]]
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Creature — Cat
Mutate 
(If you cast this spell for its mutate cost, put it over or under target non-Human creature you own. They mutate into the creature on top plus all abilities from under it.)
Whenever this creature mutates, other creatures you control get +X/+X until end of turn, where X is the number of times this creature has mutated.
3/4
golden plover
I don't want cards that do literally nothing
I want them do something, but very much not any synergy
glad peak
There are the tribal cards that give buffs and make their own tribe tokens
golden plover
I want them do something, but very much not any synergy
sleek ferry
Do the 2 drop pirate that adds either an artifact or pirate from the top 5 when it etb’s
modern minnow
like 10 arcane cards
golden plover
I wanna do a couple Arcane cards, yeah
trail anvil
wait does the new obeka give you upkeeps equal to the damage you inflict or the number of players you hit?
also am I tripping or is [[aloe alchemist]] insane value
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Creature — Plant Warlock
Trample
When Aloe Alchemist becomes plotted, target creature gets +3/+2 and gains trample until end of turn.
Plot 
(You may pay and exile this card from your hand. Cast it as a sorcery on a later turn without paying its mana cost. Plot only as a sorcery.)
3/2
trail anvil
plotting is good vs board wipes and open mana and you get a monstrous rage while going +0
twilit canyon
[[obeka splitter of seconds]]
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twilit canyon
to a player = that many additional upkeep steps so i would imagine if u have something like [[helm of the host]]
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Legendary Artifact — Equipment
At the beginning of combat on your turn, create a token that's a copy of equipped creature, except the token isn't legendary. That token gains haste.
Equip 
Forged out of flowstone for the queen of Vesuva.
twilit canyon
and she attacks and hits 3 ppl
you would get 3 triggers that each give 2 upkeeps
ie 6 upkeeps
trail anvil
jesus that sounds fun
stark skiff
ie 6 upkeeps
holy helly this sounds fun af
Court of Ambition sounds fun af with this
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chat am I cooking(aka what can I add to this)
copper pecan
you could probably cut a few lands
if your cards max out at 3 mana you really don't need more than around 20 or so lands
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Land — Sphere
: Add 
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: Add one mana of any color. Activate only if Mirrex entered the battlefield this turn.
, : Create a 1/1 colorless Phyrexian Mite artifact creature token with toxic 1 and "This creature can't block." (Players dealt combat damage by it also get a poison counter.)
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on turn one it still taps for red to play chick/swiftspear worst case
and in late game it makes fodder tokens
twilit canyon
you should look at mtggoldfish for more tuned mono red lists
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this is just my budget turn my brain off to grind gold list atm tbc
I'll probably build something more like, good, once I have a decent pile of wildcards
twilit canyon
most striking thing i see is the lack of 4x lightning strike and the inclusion of some more mid choices like kami's flare and ral's reinforcements
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jusstification for ral is prowess trigger that isn't just a burn spell, kami's flare I'll probably cut yeah
twilit canyon
u will want just a burn spell for prowess triggers
if u want non-burn, go [[wren's resolve]] i guess
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https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6306706#paper does this look good as a base
(keep in mind I know absolutely nothing about how to evaluate for standard)
twilit canyon
yep i only dont really like witchstalker's frenzy since prowess rarely has more than 2 attackers
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golden plover
copper pecan
me when i don't know how to read
twilit canyon
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Even as a commander stan I gotta admit the format has gotten so oversaturated with product it needs to be toned back
golden plover
Yeah MBT is right on this one lmao
Although the only reason pends didn't ruin yugioh was because they completely changed how the mechanic worked and then also nerfed the shit out of every pendulum forever
lusty trench
It has been too long, MBT has forgotten to pay the 800
sleek ferry
Idt commander ruined mtg per say, but the game is bloated with commander made cards
But as someone that got into commander and branched off to other formats, I think it’s a solid entry point just to see if you even like the game
Now, the people that strictly play commander and try to tell you about constructed formats without knowing what they’re talking about, they’re the issue
copper pecan
Although the only reason pends didn't ruin yugioh was because they completely ch...
pends weren't even good most of the time, i dunno why people think they ruined the game
golden plover
pends weren't even good most of the time, i dunno why people think they ruined t...
Because they dialed them back super hard after PePe
copper pecan
okay but that's like saying xyz ruined the game because of zoo
one deck using the mechanic being strong doesn't mean the entire mechanic is inherently broken
outside of qli and pepe specifically, pendulum was totally fine
golden plover
Yeah fair. I don't think pendulum killed the game, but they definitely overcorrected from fear of it doing that
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I think the hate for pendulum comes because the mechanic is bloated conceptually yet also extremely underutilized
the most they ever did was like, printing good spell effects on mons
almost never going into more interesting avenues like pend scale manipulation, caring about what kind of card is in the pend zone, what type of card is in there, extra deck pend mons basically did nothing, etc
glad peak
There’s also how (at least from my perspective) the yugioh game itself got very popular in the xyz era right before pendulums along with the internet era
And with pends being the target of hate early on it keeps permeating
sudden lava
clever sun
Amazing. He recommended zero good cards for Obeka
stark skiff
Amazing. He recommended zero good cards for Obeka
actually interested in potentially making this. do you have a sample list by any chance?
sudden lava
what color combination are people hoping to play at pre-release?
stark skiff
btw how is card kingdom's quality in shipping? Noticed some magic cards are cheaper compared to tcg and considering of buying from them if its good
trail anvil
btw how is card kingdom's quality in shipping? Noticed some magic cards are chea...
I've only used them twice but both times they were pretty good
what I like about them is what they always tout in their ads, that everything you order is in one package so you don't have to open a ton of envelopes
copper pecan
what card is this even supposed to be
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Creature — Goblin Shaman
Exalted (Whenever a creature you control attacks alone, that creature gets +1/+1 until end of turn.)
: Add , 
, or .
He protects the fetid bog from light, life, and the hideous sound of laughter.
0/1
golden plover
God who thought this was a good idea tho
copper pecan
god i hate when they print cards without text
i get that some people like them but like
it's really annoying to have to look up what a card does instead of just being able to read it
fallow citrus
I like cards without text if the artwork is the most recognisable one
not for a secret lair like that tho
golden plover
It technically has the text
It's just hidden in the art
But yeah, this is really hard to read and it's even tough to read the name
Seeing it across the table, I'd have no clue what it does
I was trying to see if his clothes have the reminder text for exalted on them
Also notably, this superdrop was delayed and a lair shorter than usual
I'm betting the last lair was supposed to be Fay Dalton arts but they cut ties with her before
Oh right, this is the last card missing from the Diaroma lair
Was hoping it was gonna be [[Nethori]] but Karador is cool too
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golden plover
[[Nethroi]]
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golden plover
[[Nethroi, Apex of Death]]
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Legendary Creature — Cat Nightmare Beast
Mutate 
(If you cast this spell for its mutate cost, put it over or under target non-Human creature you own. They mutate into the creature on top plus all abilities from under it.)
Deathtouch, lifelink
Whenever this creature mutates, return any number of target creature cards with total power 10 or less from your graveyard to the battlefield.
5/5
twilit canyon
absolutely love this lair + planskers art here
golden plover
Yeah I think it and the other artist series are the highlights of the bundle
Fallout stuff is just fomo
And the Hierarch is just... Bad
sudden lava
lusty trench
Is that all the lairs revealed?
zinc shard
Gladiator's the next Midweek Magic
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I'm doing pretty well with mono red prowess in random que
trail anvil
[[commandeer]]
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trail anvil
dang the cheat cost is good enough for historic?
twilit canyon
its not that
they just outright dont want free spells in historic
i asked him about pact of negation but dave hasnt answered yet but i imagine its just bc of the prohibitive cost associated the next upkee
twilit canyon
also commandeer is really broken
it may not seem that way
but when its good
its insanely good
trail anvil
I imagine if you can afford the cost you can steal something game ending
twilit canyon
yup
fallow citrus
does historic have beans
twilit canyon
yes
fallow citrus
explains a lot then
golden plover
Who the fuck is this Dimir dude
All the others are like the guild master or someone close to it
This guy is just... There?
Wait is the Rakdos one [[Juri]]?
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copper pecan
i remember seeing these when i first started playing and nobody knew who he was then either
twilit canyon
thats so dimir of them
copper pecan
my best guess is that he's lazav
golden plover
I think he's just a random guy
golden plover
Could be an early design of circu
Nah you're totally right, he's Circu
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[[Circu]]
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[[Circu dimir]]
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Oh this guy
lusty trench
The cool black and white lair is already sold out in foil
wotc tf is wrong with your supply that this happens for regular drops within 10 hours
golden plover
Changing them from print to demand was a mistake
lusty trench
Mistake implies they didn't know what they were doing
golden plover
Oh true
lusty trench
I was gonna pick up the fallout deck to put the artifacts in my erriette but I remembered I liked leaving the game table with my organs in tact
copper pecan
Changing them from print to demand was a mistake
it's not like they did it for no reason
they changed it because people were sick of waiting like a year for the coin flip deck thing to ship and they didn't want that to ever happen again
stark skiff
the Fallout lands are pretty neat for a SLD. Better than the special edition lol
lusty trench
they changed it because people were sick of waiting like a year for the coin fli...
Regular lairs ship at about the same rate as they used to and they could've just limited it to secret lair decks
golden plover
they changed it because people were sick of waiting like a year for the coin fli...
Coin flip was an exception because of the stupid poker chip
99% of lairs before the change shipped like 2 weeks later
This was purely for FOMO
zinc shard
It got a reboot
golden plover
Fuck I might get into mtgo then
2000 cards, a fair bit of them playable for $40
Damn, no Elsha tho
Oh fuck, it's got [[Wheel of Fortune]] in there tho
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golden plover
And all the shocks
atomic harness
oh im surprised they mentioned moxfield
golden plover
They use moxfield for the official decks
You get one in every non-standard format
Humans in Pioneer, Delve in Pauper, Infect in Modern, New Braids in Commander, and Burn in Legacy
atomic harness
Neat
twilit canyon
3 of 3
this was easy
the last one was tricky since i almost missed that sun titan itself is also a valid target for pacifism
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sleek ferry
I got the first one
I partially answered 2 and 3
For 2 I missed the fact that you don’t get the draw
For 3 I missed knight of malice as a valid target
Here’s another one
Alright I went 2 for 3 on this one. What’s the precedent for scenario 2 though?
Oh nvm I missed the “takes them out of the game” part
twilit canyon
3 of 3 again
twilit canyon
Oh nvm I missed the “takes them out of the game” part
ye
trail anvil
happy stonks day
atomic harness
3 of 3 again
sudden lava
nice
twilit canyon
for draft sure
haste and ward for 1 mana is okay to get late or find in your sealed pool
zinc shard
oh the Gladiator event only lets you precons
lusty trench
Some players are saying this is a new swiftfoot or lightning greaves
zinc shard
thats dumb
lusty trench
Which is like categorically wrong
trail anvil
Some players are saying this is a new swiftfoot or lightning greaves
it's not but I feel like it's a decent additional option if you want more colorless haste
ward 1 is so insanely different from hexproof or shroud lol, that's just an inconvenience
lusty trench
Ward one is that pop up window that asks you if you're sure
trail anvil
it's a curve breaker tbh, which is why it's so nice on cards like raffine
lusty trench
It's nice if it's extra but when you're clearly paying for it it's not amazing
trail anvil
ye
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I imagine the comparisions are surface level
"Look new boots that are cheap to cast cheap to equip and give the creature its equiped to a protection keyword"
lusty trench
They yoinked this poor baby boy from the vault
And turned him into a marketable plushie
waxen timber
That is an ugly plushie
lusty trench
It’s a dice pouch but even so damn they could’ve spent a bit longer on the face
glad peak
Aw he baby
lusty trench
Someone pointed out why loot looks odd with his mouth open
He has a pitbull mouth
The large flaps on either side of his teeth where the mouth can still open are there in pitbulls to bite and breathe at the same time
fallow citrus
has pitbull features
found the mtg creature called cupcake
lusty trench
It’s such a juxtaposition from its design intent to be cute, I have a feeling it’s that way to make it more unique with an air of danger but it just looks super out of place in mtg
zinc shard
https://youtu.be/S4Zjf_V9ia0?si=VmUfbXA5iBbmehhv
2+ hours of games
lusty trench
Lot of coins
sudden lava
sleek ferry
is prerelease this week?'
sleek ferry
Alright, I'll see if I sign up for my locals one for friday
atomic harness
Hf thuggerino
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Secret reach?
zinc shard
A lot of times in limited people would swing with Flying Creatures without checking if their opponents creatures had reach
copper pecan
there wasn't really a visual indicator for reach before yeah
twilit canyon
rip to secret reach creatures
trail anvil
god this is actually such a buff to bad players in draft tho lol
zinc shard
It reminds me of when Master Duel added an animation to show what column Imperm was activated in
trail anvil
man [[otharri, suns' glory]] gets out of hand as a commander so quickly
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Legendary Creature — Phoenix
Flying, lifelink, haste
Whenever Otharri, Suns' Glory attacks, you get an experience counter. Then create a 2/2 red Rebel creature token that's tapped and attacking for each experience counter you have.
, Tap an untapped Rebel you control: Return Otharri from your graveyard to the battlefield tapped.
3/3
trail anvil
instant board from removal is so hard to deal with and there are so many synergies in boros for go wide tokens
doesn't help that I keep playing vs this deck in 3 player pods lol
sleek ferry
[[breeches the blastmaster]]
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trail anvil
just realized [[jace reawakened]] is the first planeswalker the base mode of bloodchief's thirst can hit on arena
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zinc shard
Garbage card /j
twilit canyon
fun jace fact: he can cast a t3feri or narset for 0 mana
golden plover
Spellify 31
🔵
✅
https://commandersherald.com/games/spellify
@lusty trench I can identify that fucker on sight
lusty trench
Wizards favourite 20p rare
golden plover
If I see 3 pips and "whenever" on a blue legend I know who the fuck it is
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mono red prowess is so fun holy
fallow citrus
I wish I could still find it fun
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I love the silly combat tricks this deck incentivies
like a few games where I hold up removal until declare blockers just to pump my creature and kill a threat my burn spells can't
sleek ferry
I wish I could still find it fun
Wait till we get show-off you’ll enjoy it
fallow citrus
Wait till we get show-off you’ll enjoy it
show off?
sleek ferry
[[slickshot show-off]]
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Creature — Bird Wizard
Flying, haste
Whenever you cast a noncreature spell, Slickshot Show-Off gets +2/+0 until end of turn.
Plot (You may pay and exile this card from your hand. Cast it as a sorcery on a later turn without paying its mana cost. Plot only as a sorcery.)
1/2
copper pecan
the 16th, i think
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Damn I'm hoarding wildcards rn
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https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6306706#paper does this look good as a base
Cause this list has a lot of thunder junction cards
Is there a modern version of prowess out of curiousity
Cause moderns the only 60 card format popular at all in my area
Wait holy shit why is Play with Fire like $10
fallow citrus
card is good
and yeah modern prowess exists
you get to actually pop off and do cool things in the deck
like underworld breach
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Oh the mtggoldfish list said $9.9something
Maybe its just the price showcase being wacky
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you get to actually pop off and do cool things in the deck
Man I wanna keep it mono red cause I like turning my brain off and hitting face
golden plover
Oh the mtggoldfish list said $9.9something
It's pricing all copies
twilit canyon
Man I wanna keep it mono red cause I like turning my brain off and hitting face
you need to go 2+ colors for prowess
at least for a format like modern
granite badge
Looking at the list I'm guessing its cause of the blue draw spells
Which can dig for pieces you nedd
twilit canyon
preordain is just a really really powerful card
and if u havent played with it before, expressive iteration is one of the most absurd cards ever printed
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[[Expressive iteration]]
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Yknow
This reads bad on first take
But if you read it as "draw 2 but you get to pick what you draw from the top 3"
Yeesh
You can also choose what gets exiled so that's another plus
twilit canyon
look at top 3, draw 2
for 2 mana
the typical draw 2 is found at 3 mana and wont give you a choice
twilit canyon
theres a reason its banned
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Is it still [divination]
twilit canyon
yes
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[[Divinitation]]
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twilit canyon
[[quick study]]
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twilit canyon
3 bans
also considering:
your deck already is running 4x preordain which is scry 2 draw 1
4 mishras bauble
which is 0 mana delayed draw 1
and 4 dragon's rage channeler
which surveils 1 on non-creature cast
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Banned in legacy not in modern is crazy
twilit canyon
a typical expressive iteration may very well be
surveil 1 -> look at top 3 -> exile 1 free spell or land -> draw 1 -> draw another card
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Can I get away without the fetch lands on a budget
I probs can"t build it rn anyway
Only time modern happens in my area is mondays when I work
Til next month anyway
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Yeah I just owe taxes and pay for a lot of my owj stuff
twilit canyon
hm fair
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I have negative disposalble income
twilit canyon
i would be wary of getting non-fetch lands since a fair bit of them went up in price
twilit canyon
the shocks then u should be fine
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I have a single steamvent somewhere
twilit canyon
fetches though are particularly important for this deck because they are a free card in grave for [[underworld breach]] and delirium
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Mmm makes sense
I have underworld breach somewhere yoo
Maybe it was in the binder I threw away though
twilit canyon
and having to buy other duals that could have been spent on fetches sucks
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Yeahhhh
Fetchs are good to have in general I'm sure
It'd probs equivalent to like
Owning sets of all the pots n hts in yugioh
twilit canyon
yeah more or less
fallow citrus
something decent is uhh
twilit canyon
lands are hwat u want to hoard in magic
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Yeahhh
fallow citrus
the surveil lands could be playable in the deck if you want to cheapen it up a abit
twilit canyon
i would be wary of those too
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Hate how they never print untapped lands at uncommon
twilit canyon
since they went up in price and this is a super good aggro deck
fallow citrus
well it wouldn't make them money
twilit canyon
u never wanna play tapped lands
the thing about prowess in modern rn is im unsure who goes for show-off
and i know show-off needs to be played
but do u cut druid and accept the loss of grind? or maybe ssm's time is done?
maybe its drc but drc enables crazy breach turns
much to consider for show-off and its place in the list
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Yeahhh I'm tempted to buy standard mono red prowess but I can't show up to my lgs mtg events until I go to day shift next month
Next closest lgs is an hour away
twilit canyon
kind of a vanity purchase then just to have it?
twilit canyon
fair
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Its cheap n fun to goldfish with
I try to keep my draft decks togheter too when possible
I still have my MOM sealed deck somewhere
The local crowd is only edg/drafr
My local lgs keeps trying to get modern going but it firing is rare
Its always an uphill battle anywsy
I tried getting the mtg crowd to try yugioh my senior year of hs
golden plover
Modern is struggling to have LGSes run it rn
I live in the biggest city in my state
And out of the 4 good LGSes in my city, only 1 does modern on Wednesdays
One does modern once a month
They also only do pioneer that often tho
Anything but standard and commander is kinda dead on arrival rn
granite badge
Yeahhh
Like commander is fun but I wanna branch out into other things too lmao
Thats like, half the point
twilit canyon
magic is at its best when you have many options on how to play it
golden plover
Yeah, I just wish there were more local scenes for actual formats
Sold out of pioneer because once a month isn't really worth holding onto a deck
How the fuck are there more furries in my city than people who play non-commander formats
All the furries play commander, so that doesn't count
granite badge
Lol
I'm just glad the mtg regulars didn't say a peep when I walked in wearing a dress
Most of them know me somewhat which helps
I joke on the lgs discord about birb things
I actually gave a newcomer to the local scene some of unopened binders I had sitting in my desk
They're a disabled vet iirc so they don't work
They already have like, half of binder 1 filled
Buying collectors boosters constantly
stark skiff
Random ruling question. For Agatha of the Vile Cauldron, she only reduces generic mana right? So for Anzrag, the Quake Mole, if Agatha had 5 power I would still have to pay 2R and 2G for Anzrag right?
sudden lava
Liking https://youtu.be/BFBaoJXkCIk?t=580 this game so far, of course Oko showed up
rigid scarab
Random ruling question. For Agatha of the Vile Cauldron, she only reduces generi...
Yes. She only reduces generic mana
waxen timber
What colors did you go in deckbuilding? Simic?
sleek ferry
I don’t have my actual prerelease till tonight, I just bought this one for myself. Going off the commons and uncommons I got izzet would have def been the move
twilit canyon
thats cool
sleek ferry
lusty trench
Just saw the most cracked box of thunder junction I’ve ever seen get opened and just barely make its money back which feels odd
sudden lava
legendaries I got in total at prerelease were: Vadmir, tinybones, Baron Bertram, and 2 Breeches the blast maker
rigid scarab
Just saw the most cracked box of thunder junction I’ve ever seen get opened and ...
OTJ has a good amount of pretty good cards that should probably go back up with time
Reanimate, Mindbreak Trap, Mana Drain
sudden lava
wait tinybones is worth 18 dollars?
rigid scarab
Most of these will drop by a lot once more come into the market
But this is also just a pretty good card
trail anvil
black ragavan /s
rigid scarab
Oh this is so much worse than ragavan its not funny
But ragavan at home is like
Still kind of a ragavan
trail anvil
it's a super good card, commits crimes and has existing skeleton synergy in standard ye
golden plover
Pre-release prices are always super inflated
He'll settle at like $8 unless he's REALLY good in something
golden plover
Huh completely forgot they put Kambhal in the set
But that's probably because this is a completely different guy
This is an old Asian man
But this is a middle aged black guy? These are not the same dude lmao
Both are good cards tho
golden plover
He's a lot younger in the second one
Like it's the fact and hand wrinkles that are missing in the new one that make him look like an entirely different dude
His facial features are also a bit different, but that's a common problem with recurring characters
Everyone's facial features are a little off every once in a while
Like these Jaces are different guys
lusty trench
After playing with the new Jace he feels really underwhelming
Reads better than he plays
twilit canyon
?
that sentence makes no sense
hes underwhelming
but he reads worse than he plays?
lusty trench
Sorry goofed
lusty trench
It’s probably because I’m not focused on cheating him out which is fair or I’m just not good at gaining value from him, and nah in edh
twilit canyon
no one is trying to cheat him out cus there are very very few ways to do so
it wouldnt improve things too much
and in edh yeah he would suck
lusty trench
That’s a shame, I still think I’m gonna play him cause he looks cool and does a decent enough job at filtering/getting an extra play in if he sticks around
twilit canyon
he should be solid in modern pioneer and historic and timeless
lusty trench
Sadly not formats I play, but I’m happy he’s got a home somewhere at least
rigid scarab
Where's jace's pioneer home?
golden plover
Yeah I can't see him slotting in anywhere in pioneer
twilit canyon
control
rigid scarab
For its loot?
Its plot ability does not look too great in control
Especially if you want this to compete with wandering emperor and teferi
twilit canyon
plot is going to be the most relevant part since he keeps ticking up
you cant let control keep having free draws or removal or even the cheaper planeswalkers
twilit canyon
get lost is the big one
also jace can exile chromehost seedshark and later cast it for 0
which gives it insane value turns
trail anvil
he's definitely black in this one, I think you're thrown off by the shadows
golden plover
Nah, he's black in both but he's more asian
trail anvil
what?
barren cairn
Damn
I'm getting mogged in prerelease
Turns out Rakdos is shit when every color has good removal
broken fjord
My locals is now hosting duel commander. Been looking into the format. Having a hard time deciding what to commit to.
barren cairn
Got rolled the whole time
lusty trench
Had an absolutely cracked prerelease
Opened prismatic vista, transition vista, torpor orb, crackle with power, foil bill, terror of the peaks
sudden lava
Nice
granite badge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kcq4OZnJIn0
"mtg but if it was yugioh"
sleek ferry
Opened prismatic vista, transition vista, torpor orb, crackle with power, foil b...
Off 1 prerelease kit? Or just in General?
lusty trench
One kit plus the bonus packs they gave
trail anvil
that new terror art is so good
lusty trench
Looks like a monster hunter dragon
twilit canyon
optimizing timeless sorin ripper
beat red burn, izzet phoenix, the mirror, the mirror again but splashing white, and omni
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Creature — Elf Shaman
: Exile target land card from a graveyard. Add one mana of any color.
, : Exile target instant or sorcery card from a graveyard. Each opponent loses 2 life.
, : Exile target creature card from a graveyard. You gain 2 life.
1/2
trail anvil
thought this was a vampire too for a sec lol, just a really good black card
twilit canyon
it hangs in timeless because t1 dark ritual -> sorin -> vein ripper
it is a lot more vulnerable and has more outs
but it is decent
i personally always saw it as shit because it has no game against omni-tell
at least, with my changes, i have test of talents to ohko the deck
trail anvil
ah lol
clever sun
optimizing timeless sorin ripper
Do you really need seven ways to hate on Omni?
twilit canyon
yeah i feel this deck is dogshit if it cant beat omni
zinc shard
twilit canyon
got a poker contract? the dream
granite badge
Man I missed thunder junction prerelease
I was told it was only Friday but apparently there was a pod yesterdsy I missed
granite badge
looks like my lgs is doing draft every saturday thankfully
stark skiff
this image invokes fear
Why? Just hit the bottom ez
sudden lava
actually wait what is this exactly
A vending machine
sudden lava
Why? Just hit the bottom ez
Imagine if it ate your booster box
zinc shard
Watchs my box get damaged from a 7 foot drop
trail anvil
hopefully it's actually one of those fancy ones that has an arm to slide onto it from the shelf
glad peak
Watchs my box get damaged from a fancy arm
stark skiff
Imagine if it ate your booster box
just win another one yolo
trail anvil
was told to repost with tumblr since I yoinked the meme http://athousandlights.tumblr.com/
lusty trench
"when I get my next draw I'm going to wi-"
You fool
You do not get a "next draw"
The meteorite is coming
golden plover
@lusty trench new commander deck uses "they" exclusively in Gonti's blurb. Thankfully they're finally consistent on Gonti
lusty trench
Ayy
trail anvil
but what if they're genderfluid 😎
golden plover
Technically most Aetherborn kinda are
They're all genderless but some pick a set of pronouns
They've used "he" for Gonti prior, but it looks like they've corrected that and Gonti is exclusively "they" now
trail anvil
ah shit these are really good
damn even the texture on the mastery pass orbs are cool
granite badge
time to build mono red prowess uvu
trail anvil
honestly considering the same route of just crafting 3 more slickshots and just jamming monored lol, sounds like easy ladder climbing
trail anvil
I'll trade you for some mythics, there's so many in this set especially with big lmao
granite badge
me when you tap out
granite badge
also btw is "starter deck duel" unplayable for anyone else
I don't want to build other decks just to do the daily gold quests so I'm trying to do loaner deck events but every single game I've tried to que for dces before the game even starts
sleek ferry
me when you tap out
show off is super cracked
zinc shard
Man
sudden lava
Who will be the quickest on the draw to redeem 6 packs
trail anvil
fuck a voja woo
twilit canyon
wow that is incredibly deep cut
granite badge
I think my opponent ragequit at my top deck lmao
granite badge
etchings of kumano exiling cards I delete via burn damage is honestly pretty relavent way more than it has any right to be
trail anvil
ye there's a solid amount of gy relevance in this format
golden plover
twilit canyon
granite badge
I dun get it
copper pecan
both draw a card off of the evoke elementals
lusty trench
Satoru at 3 am looking for beans
copper pecan
https://mtgarena-support.wizards.com/hc/en-us/articles/25736956145556-Patch-Notes-2024-36
"There was a crash that involved using Kami of Transmutation to make a battle an artifact, then make the artifact a creature, then Arcane Adaptation to make it a creature type, then Roaming Throne with that creature type, then removing counters from the battle."
how in the world was this glitch discovered
trail anvil
holy shit lmao
stark skiff
https://twitter.com/PlayMTG/status/1780645932809253304
How are cons usually for mtg? Thinking of going but I’d be going solo
copper pecan
idk i've never been to one
glad peak
Last one I went to was very busy and had a bunch of pickup games and the prize wall was pretty nice
Bounty commander games for tickets and lots of side events
Speaking of which I keep forgetting to unroll the posters I got from there
It’s been 6 years
golden plover
MH3 flipwalkers
Ah yes, what could go wrong with introducing another 2 mana walker to modern
Although she's not necessarily free to flip
Oh wait you can flip her really easily
T1 ||Grist||, T2 grief with not dead after all
lusty trench
Idk she's not like wrenn and six good
copper pecan
yeah this doesn't seem even close to as good as wrenn
fallow citrus
these all seem really mid
grist might be okay in yawg? but they dont want to give the slots up
lusty trench
Yeah they're all not good, ral feels like the closest to something decent but eh
waxen timber
Tamiyo seems like the best
fallow citrus
ral is just [[goblin archaeomancer]] right
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Creature — Goblin Shaman
Each spell you cast that's red or green costs less to cast.
A good Gruul shaman can work a whole clan into a frenzy. A great one will wait until the enemy's nearby.
2/2
granite badge
Like at face value its just strictly better gobling electromancer
Which idt is bad neccisarily
fallow citrus
Ral is good if you want to play storm but also lol
granite badge
Storm is fun, its been on my list for ages to build
lusty trench
4 dud mythics in a premium back though feels oof
golden plover
They're definitely designed for commander
fallow citrus
unless I've hugely misevaluated them grist is probably the only one that will see play
WHY ARE THEY DESIGNING CARDS FOR COMMANDER IN MODERN HORIZONS
golden plover
Which is kinda lame in the modern set
lusty trench
If I'm not mistaken mh2 also had a fair amount of dud mythics, its just odd they brought back flip walkers for them to be like this though
fallow citrus
idc if the flip walkers are duds because people would complain if they were low mana bombs too
but I wish they were at least more interesting
golden plover
If I'm not mistaken mh2 also had a fair amount of dud mythics, its just odd they...
Yeah, I mean stuff like [[Garth One-Eye]] has no place outside of commander
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Legendary Creature — Human Wizard
: Choose a card name that hasn't been chosen from among Disenchant, Braingeyser, Terror, Shivan Dragon, Regrowth, and Black Lotus. Create a copy of the card with the chosen name. You may cast the copy. (You still pay its costs.)
A humble appearance belies a master's skill.
5/5
copper pecan
apparently garth's effect originally was something that cared about cards that were first printed in alpha, [[city in a bottle]] style
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copper pecan
this version of the card was rejected for obvious reasons
granite badge
wow thats a memory issue and a half
granite badge
WHY ARE THEY DESIGNING CARDS FOR COMMANDER IN MODERN HORIZONS
cause its the only format wizards pushes nowadays 🙂
sudden lava
oh leaks?
fallow citrus
wizards please cancel commander
sudden lava
Flavor fail on ||the Grist, why is it a 1/2 and not a 1/1?||
lusty trench
Built different
fallow citrus
the answer is bowmasters
sudden lava
||Grist Hunger Tide was a 1/1 when not on the battlefield, so would've made more sense to make it a 1/1. Guess they're wearing their anti-bowmaster sock today||
fallow citrus
also the creature does dick all on the board immediately so at least it can maybe block a small poke
copper pecan
balance is more important that flavor
||having it be a 1/1 would make it a much worse card||
fallow citrus
yeah
sudden lava
Ah cool. Also Im so ready to head to locals and play some commander with some thunder junction stuff
rigid scarab
WHY ARE THEY DESIGNING CARDS FOR COMMANDER IN MODERN HORIZONS
wdym this is what everyone wanted
Everyone wanted Modern Horizons to be Commander Horizons
Honestly
Everyones #1 problem with magic was that WOTC just wasn't paying enough attention to Commander
golden plover
I still can't get over MH3 having precons
COMMANDER PRECONS
Would have been the perfect opportunity to bring people back into Modern if they made challenger decks
Obviously they wouldn't do a full set of fetches and shocks and stuff, but they could have made semi-decent modern decks for like $50
rigid scarab
Honestly
Once The Command Zone is in charge with a deck reveal
I cant wait for them to dog on them like they did with commander masters
Imagine THE commander channel on youtube doing a sponsored deck reveal and them going "Yeah I'm really not feeling this product"
golden plover
Oh I'm sure this set is gonna get shat on hard
It's gonna be like 50% mega pushed cards like the last two
And then 50% unplayable garbage
For the highest price of a set yet
rigid scarab
What was the ratio of playable to unplayable in terms of MH2
golden plover
MH2 didn't have as many format warping cards as MH1
But the format warping cards in MH2 are WAY crazier
rigid scarab
Oh so the scale could just be tipped even more
I mean regardless of it representing the wrong set
They're still commander precons
They're still gonna sell
And WOTC knows it
Well maybe they don't
Commander Masters precons are still rotting in shelves
golden plover
It's called "Charge $150 for blinged out versions"
golden plover
In a precon? Never
They'll print him in the main set despite it being pretty unlikely he'd do anything in modern
@fallow citrus @twilit canyon would dockside in modern see any play?
twilit canyon
no
golden plover
Gotcha, so he's perfect to print as a mythic in the slot
I was p sure he'd do nothing, but I wasn't sure if there was some modern deck I was forgetting about where he'd blow out the game
rigid scarab
Only thing they haven't done is print cards that specifically mention commanders in non-commander sets
golden plover
Actually... You're wrong
It was a reprint, but there's one
[[Aminatou, the Fateshifter]] got a reprint in Double Masters 22
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rigid scarab
[[Aminatou, the Fateshifter]] got a reprint in Double Masters 22
Ok well
They haven't printed any cards that specifically mention commander into non-commander formats
Except legacy/pauper but like
Cmon
golden plover
Oh wait yes they have
golden plover
They haven't printed any cards that specifically mention commander into non-comm...
Technically you're right because it hasnt been printed yet
But there is another
Actually a whole keyword
Sucks because freerunning could have just been Prowl too
But it had to mention commanders
rigid scarab
I mean let's be honest ACR is a commander set in disguise
Actually
Every set is a commander set in disguise
I'm like that astronaut about to get shot
golden plover
You're right
But this set is modern legal
Hate the idea of cards in constructed formats referencing commander
fallow citrus
I don't care if there are playable cards that reference commander bc legacy and vintage
but I don't want products designed for a format to actually also be made with 2 formats in mind
golden plover
I mean you know Ezio's WUBRG effect is just there to make him a 5c commander for assassin's creed tribal
But also, freerunning is literally just prowl and the only reason it's not is because commander
Which is annoying to do for a modern set
sudden lava
fallow citrus
I mean you know Ezio's WUBRG effect is just there to make him a 5c commander for...
I mean you can literally play commanders in legacy so again I'm not bothered about that
it's only a modern set because they want to make modern into legacy lite
golden plover
Yeah, but legacy was designed as an "every card in the game" format
And cards aren't designed directly for legacy
It's weird to have cards "designed directly for modern" that reference your commander
trail anvil
this doesn't look like a designed for modern card
golden plover
It's definitely not
This set is "secretly" a commander set
But it's modern legal to force spikes to buy product if one or two of the cards end up being tiered
trail anvil
the 5c especially just reads like they wanted to push it as a commander too
golden plover
It's not even an effect that needs wubrg
It's an effective could do for just BB realistically
trail anvil
idk about bb, that's way too easy
golden plover
They literally just stapled on "pay WUBRG" so that he can helm your assassin's Creed tribal
Maybe BBB?
trail anvil
but double black pips on the first effect and wubrg on the second is rough
golden plover
It's an effect that could be done in just black
trail anvil
I'd just do like 5BB or something
golden plover
I imagine the set leans towards black
It's an aftermath set
So it's not draftable
trail anvil
not in regards to draft, but getting an opponent to 10 life seems easy
lusty trench
I think they reduced the commander precon prices this time around compared to commander masters
Still like £55-60 tho
fallow citrus
Yeah, but legacy was designed as an "every card in the game" format
hence "they are trying to make it legacy lite"
golden plover
True
fallow citrus
oh someone made a good point that MH3 ||tamiyo would be playable in legacy because you can just brainstorm and flip her immediately||
clever sun
But is she worth flipping?
fallow citrus
not really
golden plover
You can... Wait a turn and get the brainstorm back off her -3
That's... Not that good
glad peak
Huh more storm support in Ral but probably not good enough
Doesn’t solve any of storm’s issues
waxen timber
Tamiyo's front side is decent in some decks. Like if there was a card that was 1 mana tap to make a clue, it would see some play
glad peak
I have seen some people play Temur storm just for anarchomancer but I don’t think that’s standard
waxen timber
Her backside while not being busted, is amazing considering you get that off 1 mana
sudden lava
||its weird how she's a 0/3 flyer that wants to attack||
waxen timber
Huh more storm support in Ral but probably not good enough
Not knowing when he flips and ||the one damage he deals you|| seems like big downsides
zinc shard
The bad country accents are making it really hard to get through this Game Knights episode
glad peak
Him flipping is just an upgrade, and ||the one damage|| probably doesn’t matter as much since you’re expecting to ||lose 2-4 life before the flip||
sleek ferry
rigid scarab
https://youtu.be/TXf0PZneB1g?si=dbRhCZ5TYNiUpwyf
||Honestly Pestilience looked like a really cool deck||
zinc shard
oh didnt realize the face commander for Thunder Junction got added to Arena.
Thought they stopped doing that after Eldraine
copper pecan
they did it in lci
sudden lava
my ride picked me up too early (read turn 4) so had to scoop before I really got to play 😅
still had fun at locals tho
got to turn 1 crime land someone
twilit canyon
i can only think of one
polar lake
[[show-off]]
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polar lake
[[slickshot show-off]]
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Creature — Bird Wizard
Flying, haste
Whenever you cast a noncreature spell, Slickshot Show-Off gets +2/+0 until end of turn.
Plot (You may pay and exile this card from your hand. Cast it as a sorcery on a later turn without paying its mana cost. Plot only as a sorcery.)
1/2
twilit canyon
yeah whats the other one
polar lake
[[ledger shredder]]
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twilit canyon
wizard
polar lake
ITS NOT A WIZARD???
twilit canyon
lmao
yeah no shredder has awful creature types since no one cares about birds much or advisors
polar lake
its fine i can still make Izzet Birds
twilit canyon
if he was a bird wizard hed be even more insane
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Creature — Phoenix
Flying, haste
Phoenix Chick can't block.
Whenever you attack with three or more creatures, you may pay . If you do, return Phoenix Chick from your graveyard to the battlefield tapped and attacking with a +1/+1 counter on it.
1/1
twilit canyon
not by magic rules
polar lake
what about flavor wise
twilit canyon
i wouldnt run chick though
polar lake
yeah true
twilit canyon
4 swiftspears, 4 shredders, 4 showoffs, 4 kumano
thats all you need
the rest are cantrips and burn
polar lake
i totally wont splash white for monastery mentor, and lightning helix
i definetly wont do that
polar lake
i wont
twilit canyon
the mana isnt really there
itll be an awful time trying to make it work
also lowkey mentor is outdated now
sleek ferry
Mentor is very outdated sadly. Source: I’ve been trying to make mentor work since he came back to standard
twilit canyon
third path is unnecessary
you are a prowess deck
iconoclast goes wide but
who cares
polar lake
whats the name of that bird wizard that prowesses your whole team
polar lake
Fugitive Codebreaker?
polar lake
wait why does this card feel familiar
twilit canyon
codebreaker?
polar lake
yeah
twilit canyon
cus its a reworked [[bedlam reveler]]
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Creature — Devil Horror
This spell costs less to cast for each instant and sorcery card in your graveyard.
Prowess
When Bedlam Reveler enters the battlefield, discard your hand, then draw three cards.
3/4
polar lake
i wouldnt bother though
wait but the bird wizard theme, its not about being good its about the flavor
yeah fuck it, we going jeskai birds
sudden lava
yeah fuck it, we going jeskai birds
atomic harness
wizards please cancel commander
Mood
trail anvil
https://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/748126293445443584/rest-in-peace-to-my-father-gene-rosewater RIP
trail anvil
twilit canyon
why did cowboy bebop crossover with mtg and overwatch within a month
whats going on with cowboy bebop
lusty trench
Ossification
Disdainful stroke
Go for the throat
Lightning strike
Snakeskin veil
Entire lair isnt worth a regular mcchicken, this shit is dollar store microwave hamburger
golden plover
It's also JP only and they're gonna be like $100 each
fallow citrus
would be neat if the styles went to arena
trail anvil
I could see that after the japanese WAR arts came over
man I thought my opponent drew the nuts with all this + double down, but managed to push through it
dealing with 4 brazen borrowers is a lot easier when you have a bigger flier
went 7-1 with selesnya mounts, that went really well 
drafted a lot more low cost creatures than I usually do and it paid off hard
polar lake
It's also JP only and they're gonna be like $100 each
isn't it convention special promos?
same with the sleeves and playmats
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Artifact Creature — Necron Noble
Menace
Command Protocols — Other artifact creatures you control get +1/+0 and have menace.
Unearth (: Return this card from your graveyard to the battlefield. It gains haste. Exile it at the beginning of the next end step or if it would leave the battlefield. Unearth only as a sorcery.)
3/2
atomic harness
[[sicarian infiltrator]]
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Artifact Creature — Human Soldier
Flash
Squad (As an additional cost to cast this spell, you may pay any number of times. When this creature enters the battlefield, create that many tokens that are copies of it.)
Benediction of the Omnissiah — When Sicarian Infiltrator enters the battlefield, draw a card.
1/2
atomic harness
Finally, urzas saga tokens can do a billion damage
trail anvil
@twilit canyon watching crokeyz play 4c timeless truly makes me see how many crazy important small decisions you have to make as you go through the game, jesus
(also that jarsyl is actually busted wtf is this card)
trail anvil
yeah I bet. I was amazed when he couldn't even crack a fetch cause both players had DRS
zinc shard
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/announcing-cowboy-bebop-collaboration-promo-cards
Cowboy Beebop cards will be given out during Standard Showdown events from August through May of next year
lusty trench
Are we getting the mat and sleeves?
zinc shard
stark skiff
Wasn’t expecting to find a d20 dragon at locals lol had to get it.
trail anvil
Wasn’t expecting to find a d20 dragon at locals lol had to get it.
sheeeeeesh
polar lake
i just found out rest in peace is in standard due to the bonus sheet
fallow citrus
don't think that's correct