Magic the Gathering

[golden plover]

Why didn't kaito, the wanderer, and Tamiyo think of dropping something on him

[rigid scarab]

Why is every big name story trying to copy endgame

I dont get it

[golden plover]

Because it made marvel a lot of money

[rigid scarab]

The heroes casually fight back and swiftly handle the enemy invasion

(While throwing in some witty quips along the way!)

[golden plover]

Also reminder this isn't even the first MTG endgame

[rigid scarab]

But Endgame had big 'holy shit' moments

[golden plover]

WAR was also endgame and also bad

[rigid scarab]

There are exactly 0 of those moments in the MOM story

Now now

WAR wasn't endgame

It was Infinity War

Actually WAR was in 2019

Yeah it was 100% endgame

[dense berry]

war was totally endgame

[rigid scarab]

Probably written in the same time as well

[golden plover]

The question tho is, which sucked less. WAR or MOM?

[rigid scarab]

Let's weigh it out

MOM was way more of a colossal disappointment

Had a way less cool villain

And pulled a lot more shit out of its ass

[lusty trench]

War at least had a meaningful character death

[golden plover]

Yeah WAR at least killed someone

[rigid scarab]

WAR had the Forsaken book

[golden plover]

I know MOM killed Wrenn but she'll be back

And Tamiyo is a ghost and all the other stakes got undone

[trail anvil]

aftermath was oof too

[golden plover]

Oh yeah Aftermath was terrible

[rigid scarab]

WAR had its shitty ass story printed on paper

Its got that going for it

[dense berry]

the suits at hasbro are likely the same suits at disney who want to attempt to cash out on the lowest risk reused plot they can

[golden plover]

Oh right speaking of aftermath, why was Ob trapped on New Capenna?

[rigid scarab]

Fog horn sounds

[golden plover]

He literally ended the SNC story by planes walking off new Capenna and going "you'll never understand my master plan"

[dense berry]

aftermath ruined Phyrexia

[golden plover]

I'd argue ONE did enough damage for that

The ONE story was great. Everyone passed the idiot ball around all story

"Hey Lukka don't meld with that creature."
"Hey Nahiri don't hide your infection."
"Hey Jace the bomb will still work"

Also they went "actually Nahiri can control her compleation" and then immediately went "sike! She can't"

[rigid scarab]

I think MOM was a way weaker main set narrative

WAR has more irl vile stuff in it

[golden plover]

MOM is way worse than ONE, yeah

[rigid scarab]

If you count Forsaken

[golden plover]

But ONE was BAD

[rigid scarab]

Which if we're counting Aftermath

We can count Forsaken

[dense berry]

i dont think any of the authors for MOM/Aftermath actually communicated amongst each other

[golden plover]

Honestly they should just kill Nahiri off now

If they're not gonna write her in an interesting way, just kill her

[rigid scarab]

The WAR story also got TCC to come out of English Professor retirement to talk about how bad it was

Which was funny

[golden plover]

And I'm on record as being a Nahiri defender

[dense berry]

the fate of every mtg character unfortunately

remember garruk

[rigid scarab]

Who?

[golden plover]

(Not fully, but Nahiri can be more justified than people give her credit for)

[dense berry]

we cant have this guy who literally punched a woman be plot relevant

[golden plover]

Everyone goes "oh she's crazy and nuked a plane" which, yeah. But also that happened because she asked Sorin to spare like 5 minutes to prevent her plane from getting nuked first and he went "Can't, too busy playing with my angel daughter"

And Emrakul was gonna breach somewhere anyways. All Nahiri did was decide which plane was gonna get nuked

[rigid scarab]

I mean that's an 'explain not justify' thing imo

[golden plover]

Yeah. Obviously nuking innistrad was bad

But Sorin fucked her over first and I can sorta see why, if done by a better writer, she'd have felt justified to drop Emrakul there

[rigid scarab]

Remember "Nothing will be the same" when talking about MOM

[golden plover]

Oh lmao, yeah

All that meant was "we can put legendaries on any plane"

[rigid scarab]

I think its wild how we've yet to talk about the BRO story

Honest to god

What happened in the BRO story

[golden plover]

The BRO story was fine...

Kinda largely nothing

The DOM story was really dumb btw

[rigid scarab]

Brother's War was like

THE thing that got people into MTG lore

[golden plover]

Love spending 1/3rd of the story playing shitty "The Thing" with the most obvious imposter

[rigid scarab]

They literally piggybacked off of it for a narrative

And it turned out

'fine'

[golden plover]

It's clearly not gonna be any of the ones we care about and there's only 1 new person in the group

Wonder who the sleeper agent is

[rigid scarab]

Btw

LOVE how they compleated one of the most beloved MTG characters

[golden plover]

And then the stupid reveal of "oh actually Ajani got compleated offscreen and killed Jaya" was funny

[rigid scarab]

Offscreen

[golden plover]

And then he got better on fucking [[Negate]] of all cards

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/mom/68/negate

Negate <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
Counter target noncreature spell.
Teferi gave them time. Karn gave them a chance. But it was Melira who paid the ultimate price to free Ajani from Phyrexia's grasp.

[rigid scarab]

Do we even know how he got compleated

[golden plover]

Nope

And the healing process doesn't make sense either

[rigid scarab]

It was the covid vaccine

[golden plover]

It cost melira her life and Karn's spark to fix Ajani and Nissa

And they just magically shed all the machine parts

And Nissa fully regrew her hair

[rigid scarab]

What if her hair is

Uh

[golden plover]

But Nahiri is mentioned having to rip the parts out of herself in the Zendikar rubble

[rigid scarab]

Tree stuff

[golden plover]

And nobody tried to heal Nahiri

She just woke up and went "oh I'm better now. And evil for some reason"

[rigid scarab]

Jace is

????

Vraska is

[golden plover]

God the Phyrexian arc was dumb

[rigid scarab]

????

[golden plover]

Jace is totally fine somehow

He mentioned having this genius master plan

Wait didn't Norn also send him to do something and he went "sounds good" and then died off screen?

[rigid scarab]

I dont think he died

He just...

Stopped being there

DMU to MOM is like

WOTC made a for fun DND campaign

[golden plover]

He Planeswalked away at the literal last second

[rigid scarab]

And the players just

Used it as the framework for the lore

It actually reads like a DND campaign

[golden plover]

Honestly with how good NEO was at setting up the Phyrexian arc, I expected... Anything

[rigid scarab]

Bet he's on ravnica again

[golden plover]

Should've known from SNC that it was gonna be shit

[rigid scarab]

Hey

Give props tp

Kaldheim

[fallow citrus]

jace after that storyline was literally just

[golden plover]

Oh also don't forget about the headmaster Killian killed off screen who got a card that randomly brought them back to normal in Aftermath

[fallow citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/imgone-outtahere-drewgone-drewhill-fatdrew-gif-20091396

[golden plover]

That was funny as hell

He literally threw the compleated headmaster off a building and they died died

And then they got a card next set

[lusty trench]

Aftermath is a huge failure of adhering to the lore

[dense berry]

the phyrexian planeswalker shit implies to me that they hired a bunch of different writers, didnt bother properly informing them of the lore and mechanics of phyrexia and then had them work on their stories independently and almost certainly received minimal revisions

[lusty trench]

And it seems that wotc is ignoring a lot of the lore it came with

[dense berry]

they dont have the writers anymore

the story ended years ago

[golden plover]

Also more than a few phyrexian walkers is weird anyways

[lusty trench]

Remember when huatli and saheeli lost their sparks and were stuck on separate planes

[golden plover]

It's mentioned in NEO that the only way they were able to compleat Tamiyo was a modified Reality Chip + new phyresis

[lusty trench]

Jin got that 5g oil

[golden plover]

But then by ONE you can just get compleated by the oil like normal

[rigid scarab]

Wait fucking what

What the fuck are they doing on ixalan

[golden plover]

Did the oil change? Since you know for a fact that they didn't put a chip in Lukka or Nahiri

[lusty trench]

idk

Omenpaths that conveniently went to the right plane first try

Ooooooooo

[dense berry]

remember when the oil just made the things subjected to it seek out compleation

[golden plover]

Yeah true. It was still a process

[rigid scarab]

All this and

[lusty trench]

Oil needed an os up date

[dense berry]

as opposed to the modern narrative that it magically transforms people

[rigid scarab]

I still think Crimes of Grindelwald had a bigger asspull

[golden plover]

Then by ONE you just randomly grew metal parts

Also, remember how killing Norn randomly shut down all the phyrexians?

Well not the ones that went back to normal

[lusty trench]

How are you supposed to tell they're evil if parts of their bodies don't turn into blades/tentacles

[golden plover]

What determines if you were able to go back to normal or if you were gonna get shut down?

[lusty trench]

The writers

[golden plover]

I know the obvious answer is "if we plan on using the character in the future"

But like is there a certain point where you're just too fucked?

[lusty trench]

Presumably ajani

[golden plover]

Because Nahiri literally exploded herself so they couldn't use her body

[dense berry]

remember when mtgs story wasnt a black and white superhero movie rip off

[lusty trench]

Remember when that one oil immune character fucking died to revive ajani

[golden plover]

Oh right guys I forgot about another thing everyone forgot about in ONE/MOM

[lusty trench]

[golden plover]

Tybalt

[lusty trench]

Man got loony tunes'd

[golden plover]

Gets compleated offscreen, shows up on an uncommon, dies

[dense berry]

like between urza and yawgmoth in the 90s you didn't have a "good guy"

[rigid scarab]

That's the Domri Special

[golden plover]

But his death was a death death, despite Nahiri doing way more damage to her body and just growing it back

[dense berry]

you had hell creatures and some douche who wants to kill them

[lusty trench]

At least it's not the dack special ig

[golden plover]

At least domri got a card that set and also died on a card

[rigid scarab]

The story definitely had at least one bad guy

[golden plover]

Tybalt didn't even get an alchemy card

[dense berry]

it had multiple bad guys

[golden plover]

Like it sucks when they get relegated to alchemy cards, but tybalt should have gotten something

[lusty trench]

Damn how's tybalt gonna have his salty run back with sorrin now

[golden plover]

I just want Nahiri to body Sorin at this point

No more sad broody useless vampire

[lusty trench]

Nah bro I think he's earned the brooding for a bit

It was one set of brooding

The other was him just being a prick

[golden plover]

He's allowed to brood a bit, but he's literally done nothing useful ever

[dense berry]

so many old walker beefs from the duel deck eras just went nowhere

[golden plover]

"Sorry can't help save your plane, my angel daughter is sad"

[lusty trench]

Nah he sealed the eldrazi and later killed his own daughter to save the plane

[golden plover]

I liked in WAR how the two were too mad at each other to do anything useful

[lusty trench]

He's done more than a lot of walkers

[rigid scarab]

The Last of Us Special

But Last of Us had like

A whole ass game explaining Joel's reasoning

[golden plover]

You're right, but I'm also a certified Nahiri defender

So it unfortunately makes me a certified Sorin hater

[lusty trench]

By that logic what has nahiri done

[golden plover]

If the writers were competent she would have been the reason they could have undone compleation in ONE

She.... Um blew up the Phyrexian arena?

[lusty trench]

Sealed the eldrazi sure, then cried to sorrin and when he changed his mind on his priorities over the years, instead of doing something about it herself, malded and nuked a plane

[golden plover]

She beat the shit out of Jace for being annoying

That was funny

[lusty trench]

Yeah but beating up the character that has no physical skills isn't huge

[golden plover]

She's probably one of the strongest current walkers when the writers don't forget about her

[lusty trench]

Hes got mental shit but that doesn't work when you're naheri and you have rocks for brains and just get mad for any reason

(old school Chandra core)

Imagine being upset about a threat, and then immediately 180ing and unleashing said threat on someone else and then doing nothing to help against it

imagine

Which sucks because I liked naheri

[golden plover]

The threat was gonna happen somewhere in the multiverse no matter what

All Nahiri did was pick where

[lusty trench]

Sure, but she could've done it where the others were and worked on a containment solution

She chose where to put it to use it as a weapon

And then do nothing about it

[golden plover]

True but that was because Sorin fucked her over first

She's not in the right or anything, but if they wrote the story better, you could see why she did it

[lusty trench]

Someone going "My priorities have changed over millennia of having to carefully manage the races of my planes so that they don't genocide each other, find someone else to help" and then 180ing isn't a motivation I could see working regardless

Expecting someone to keep their word over 5 years is something, over thousands is another thing entirely, people and circumstances change

[golden plover]

Yeah true. I was moreso talking revenge for Sorin going "sorry can't help, gotta watch over my daughter"

[lusty trench]

There is no revenge to be had there though

[golden plover]

True, but that's on the writers

Nahiri just gets written really poorly

[lusty trench]

If sorin went "oh I really don't give a shit about the rest of the multiverse, they can all die in a fire and I will just watch on with my plane safe" that'd be justified

But then you antagonise sorin

And thus he'd be poorly written

Because while he's a prick, he's not that much of a prick

[golden plover]

True. It's clear they wanted you to understand where both were coming from

And then randomly forgot about that and went "nah actually fuck Nahiri"

[lusty trench]

Naheri and sorin are just two characters I can't see natural conflict between

Especially not to the degree it'd turn to either of them allowing the conflict to grow outside of each other

[golden plover]

The idea was supposed to be that both worked together and could only tust each other and then screwed each other over

But they couldn't figure out a reasonable way to do that

So it became "Oh actually genocide"

[dense berry]

a classique tbh big corporations dont understand interpersonal strife so the conflicts end up large scale destruction because anybody with sentience can understand thats bad

[fallow citrus]

are there enough explore cards in lci to make explore decks a thing in standard again

[last glen]

What's the payoff

getting away with fewer lands and slightly fatter creatures?

[fallow citrus]

well the fatter creatures really are the payoff

1 drop 2/2 isn't bad on curve normally

[last glen]

Hmm
Can you combine it with descend mechanics maybe?

Looks like most of the explore LCI cards are in green and blue

[twilit canyon]

theres some pieces all over but nothing solid to make a whole deck

[fallow citrus]

that's a shame

[twilit canyon]

caves will probably be a thing but its unknown if it will be any better than just going pure domain ramp

[barren cairn]

Two opponents haven't shown up for prerelease

[lusty trench]

Oof

[barren cairn]

More packs for me ig

My promo was the uhhh

Big mono red dino

[last glen]

The one that discovers, or the one that makes tokens?

[barren cairn]

Discovers

I also bought a precon

[last glen]

What are the best-in-class ways to reborn stuff in Pioneer

Need some recursion for my Fungus deck

[fallow citrus]

so this just makes a lot of dudes on one swing

[trail anvil]

pog nice

[[$growing rites of itlimoc]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/lci/188/growing-rites-of-itlimoc-itlimoc-cradle-of-the-sun

Prices for Growing Rites of Itlimoc // Itlimoc, Cradle of the Sun

The Lost Caverns of Ixalan

$4.98 • €3.84

The Lost Caverns of Ixalan

$11.66

Judge Gift Cards 2022

$40.21

XLN Treasure Chest

$28.92 • €19.95

Ixalan Promos

$30.94 • €20.94

Ixalan

$13.44 • €12.68 • 0.02 TIX

[trail anvil]

think the price will go back up on this later?

[twilit canyon]

not for quite a bit i think

[dense berry]

i picked up a foil fierce guardianship and a extended art orc bowmaster

[barren cairn]

really cool card still

also got a commander i wanted to build and the merfolk precon

the merfolk precon is v good value lmao

[trail anvil]

yeah it's a really good card

[rich bronze]

Turn 3 heroic wins feel good

[copper pecan]

https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/SEQPDJy7oPv2Tyl5YC-JNcG0MwdNsRZQY4EwzVUPnP0/%3Fpid%3DImgGn%26w%3D1024%26h%3D1024%26rs%3D1/https/th.bing.com/th/id/OIG.wX27ZJV42lRtsw5W3Omo?width=662&height=662

[dense berry]

apparently this cat devil is offensive

[twilit canyon]

in what way is jetmir offensive?

[dense berry]

didnt they remove cat from all the devils in mtg

[twilit canyon]

no

[trail anvil]

are you thinking of rakshasa?

[twilit canyon]

they removed it from rakshasa which are not cats

[trail anvil]

jetmir is just a literal fat cat

which is an amusing pun

[dense berry]

has any rakshasa being a cat ever actually been relevant

like to the story

not the game

also I don't really get the "in the deep lore of the source inspiration they weren't X" like they have tons of creative liberty fantasy creatures

[trail anvil]

I think the big thing is that they're part of hindu mythology compared to fantasy universes

[glad peak]

I think they had some influence as a species in tarkir but that’s about it

[copper pecan]

rakshasa are from a widely-practiced religion and wotc felt that their previous depiction of them was disrespectful so they're changing them

jetmir isn't a rakshasa

[lusty trench]

The brokers deal in law, the riveteers in construction. What do I deal in? CASH - Jetmir presidential campaign 1923

[fallow citrus]

this made me fucking howl
https://vxtwitter.com/Clark_Confidant/status/1723747490405732519?s=20

[trail anvil]

omfg

[last glen]

gems on sale in MTGA today

[last glen]

oh shit

set goes live tomorrw

gotta decide if I preorder anything or not

[trail anvil]

I thought it was the day after tomorrow

[twilit canyon]

it is tuesday

[last glen]

oh

well

preorders end tomorrow

so I gotta decide

[last glen]

easiest keep of my life
(I did not keep)

[sleek ferry]

oh i got baited, LCI release isnt today

[rigid scarab]

Silly thugs

[last glen]

apparently it's tomorrow

[zinc shard]

Next Game Knights is Wednesday

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7m5tgIa-k0o

[last glen]

smh apparently only the dino commander deck has its price going up

[sleek ferry]

speaking of, what was the best deck for the historic no banlist event @trail anvil

logged into mtga to play for the first time in a while

[rigid scarab]

They're the most in demand

I WOULD pay the $45 at big box stores

If yknow

Singapore had big box stores

[sleek ferry]

these might be the best commander decks since

idk

[rigid scarab]

Commander Masters were technically good decks

[sleek ferry]

I just got singles from those decks

the decks themselves were eh

but it did have some win cons i needed

[rigid scarab]

Finding a place there that would actually sell the decks at MSRP would be like finding a wincon in lifegain

Pretty much the only stores taking stock of them are gaming stores

[sleek ferry]

Singapores situation is kinda fucked yeah

are all the mtg players in singapore just whales?

[rigid scarab]

A good amount of whales but not all of them I'd say

We got some whales

We got some Proxy Patricks

But you know what I'm actually ok

I pulled a Cavern of Souls from my sample pack

[sleek ferry]

yeah you fucking went + like 250

tbf though, I always found myself going + with set booster boxes, but never by over 100 like you did

[rigid scarab]

I think with the precon plus the set box

I may have genuinely gone +200

[sleek ferry]

didnt you pull a fucking mana crypt

plus cavern

[rigid scarab]

Mana Crypt Dockside

Actually

The problem is actually getting the dockside off my hands

[sleek ferry]

do you already have one or something?

also which art is it

[rigid scarab]

List print in LCI

[sleek ferry]

yeah, but which art is that, is that the og art or the reprint art

[rigid scarab]

Reprint art

I think most people who would want a Dockside in Singapore would just proxy it

Also facebook groups which is like the premiere way to sell cards

Is mainly whales

So you gotta hope someone puts up a WTB for the card you're selling

[sleek ferry]

thats most facebook groups for tcg's in general

[rigid scarab]

Unless you wanna sell at marked down prices at an LGS

[trail anvil]

misty was saying rakdos blood moon

.

[sleek ferry]

ah thank you

i just wanted my free 1k xp

[fallow citrus]

https://vxtwitter.com/SaffronOlive/status/1724098308761694307?t=vGyz-rdmd3DnP2irCepmJg&s=19

https://vxtwitter.com/SaffronOlive/status/1724099441366270198?t=pUiYk0gYK1pI8pnz6UZK6w&s=19

[twilit canyon]

this is neat

[sleek ferry]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcec66j4IuA

[trail anvil]

fuck me is atraxa really the best commander in both cedh and hbrawl

actually it's arguably ragavan in hbrawl but still

[lusty trench]

https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/s/pJ2BYchVIA

[fallow citrus]

oh I didn't read the tweet mb

reddit post

[lusty trench]

[twilit canyon]

shes far from the best in cedh

[dense berry]

i tried to watch the whole video

seems his data is good and he understands what he's looking at

there are some quirks to the cedh community mindset that makes some of these numbers the way they are

[sleek ferry]

I mean even he said flat out, Atraxa is probably between an A tier and B tier deck

Rather than an S tier deck as the data suggests

[dense berry]

first off tymna kraum (blue farm) is by far the most common and respected deck in the format so its winrate vs entry is more cannibalized by mirrors than anything else

[glad peak]

Huh vial thras being considered good is something I haven’t heard in a while

Solid, sure, but top tier is been a while

[sleek ferry]

Also, if you hear what he says, specifically about vial/thras it’s true

You don’t care about your commanders as much, you care about the fact that you’re in 4 colors

[glad peak]

Same for pirates, it always seems to be a deck that starts decent then gets bad throughout the year

I know but the problem is why is vial thras top tier but not any other 5c commander with a mana outlet

[sleek ferry]

Could just be a familiarity thing, like when people think “oh let’s add green to grixis” the first commander paring they might think of is thras/vial since they’re 2 of the most well known commanders

[glad peak]

I guess? Though it does support my theory that cedh doesn’t have enough data for even the top tier decks to determine what’s optimal

[dense berry]

because theyre all 5cmc

[glad peak]

Sisay’s 3 cmc

Also wasn’t there the argument for 1 color 5cmc with multiple color identities being playable due to having a lot of colorless mana rocks a thing?

Unless people no longer agree with it (understandably)

[dense berry]

its an iffy thing getting a 5cmc commander out

even in bluefarm kraum is only castable with jeweled lotus

for the most part at least

[glad peak]

Yeah, people were using that justification to play kraum+tevesh for a bit iirc

[dense berry]

and sisay as an outlet requires a number of garnets

its an entirely different deck from say a 5 color goodstuff with mana outlet setup

[twilit canyon]

its way too much mana to cast them where it would be better spent on a win

[dense berry]

i have a 4cmc commander in cedh and i consider her nearly uncastable

jeweled lotus + control commander free spells has completely warped the format around it

[twilit canyon]

tbf a good part of it does come down to how strong and efficient cards like 3c sisay, tymna, thrasios are

the higher mana u go, the more of a justification u must make to have them be the commander

[dense berry]

i wish jlotus wasnt used as a premium chase

so i could at least hope for a ban

[modern minnow]

If the colour identity rule was removed what would the best cedh commanders be

Thinking stuff like actual 5c lurrus

[glad peak]

Yisan sure is a deck at 5c

Or even better, roggy poggy but with an actual good partner

[dense berry]

ragavan, Rog Tymna, sidisi undead vizier, rocco cabaretti caterer, jhoira weatherlight captain etc come to mind

ragavan would warp the format

[glad peak]

Actually yeah ragavan would be insane

Fixes both card advantage and mana issues while being turn 1 play

[dense berry]

imagine the 5 color goodstuff deck but you need your opening hand to have a blocker or kill spell for all the ragavans before you in turn order

[modern minnow]

Rag does seem vile

It also kinda does the rog thing slightly worse too

[glad peak]

Speaking of which my friend wants me to make them a ragavan deck so filled it with orbs, swords, and mass nonbasic land destruction

It’s a funny deck

[dense berry]

rog but for 1 more mana you get a jackal pup statline and you get to pretend you already casted your tymna and paradise mantle

and once they kill it you can just start dashing it

[trail anvil]

soulherder lagrella is a drug

wash away + never giving them a rhystic study trigger feels so good

[trail anvil]

what's everyone trying day 1 of lci?

I was gonna build monoblue but that feels like it's gonna be a bit rough with tons of people running cavern of souls

[twilit canyon]

im going down in the mine

nah im not testing any of the new cards tho

[last glen]

Built a new Dino deck

Feels too slow rn
Needs more ramp

[trail anvil]

are you playing both of the dino ramp creatures

I just wanna find a cheap build for day 1 testing so I don't spend my wildcards until the good stuff is found tbh

ik lands are safe investments but they aren't new toys

[last glen]

which ones are you talking about
I swapped out Gisath kid for Marauding Raptors
and have some elves
format is Explorer btw

[trail anvil]

o idk how well dinos are gonna hold up in explorer comparatively

[last glen]

they were doing alright for me

[trail anvil]

I meant ixalli's lorekeeper and intrepid paleontologist

[last glen]

ahh

[[paleontologist]]

[lost widget]

Multiple cards match “paleontologist”, can you be more specific?

[last glen]

[[intrepid paleontologist]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/lci/193/intrepid-paleontologist

Intrepid Paleontologist <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manag:292901508654301185>

Creature — Human Druid
: Add one mana of any color.
: Exile target card from a graveyard.
You may cast Dinosaur creature spells from among cards you own exiled with Intrepid Paleontologist. If you cast a spell this way, that creature enters the battlefield with a finality counter on it. (If a creature with a finality counter on it would die, exile it instead.)
2/2

[last glen]

hmm

I don't know if Palani's Hatcher can cut it in Explorer/Pioneer

Marauding Raptor too good at accelerating

[sleek ferry]

Ngl, I’m not seeing much I like in this set for standard

[lusty trench]

Very happy I pre ordered hunting veloceraptor, saved £15 lmao

[zinc shard]

https://youtu.be/vA5qMDnyLc0?si=hcuuF0VbHFmFIELr

[sudden lava]

gotta watch that later

Voxxy is on the cool naya dinos

http://www.magicspoiler.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/Pantlaza-Sun-Favored-Variant-The-Lost-Caverns-of-Ixalan-Spoiler.png

[rigid scarab]

Not the coolest Naya dino though

[sudden lava]

damn that was a good Game Knights

[stark skiff]

Haven’t watched it yet but how can it fail. They have like two of the best guests that can deliver lol

[sleek ferry]

Alright I found a cool deck for this standard

[rigid scarab]

We never did know the cool deck for this standard

[trail anvil]

I'm currently running orzhov craft, I think it's pretty cool

I just want to find a home for thousand moon smithy cause the card is fun

[rigid scarab]

That's a pretty cool deck for this standard

[trail anvil]

mycotyrant fucks

[lusty trench]

It's time once again for some new secret lair prizing, let's see what we got

Murktide is badass

[glad peak]

Bleat me dry lmao

[fallow citrus]

it's so good

[golden plover]

Damn, there's only gonna be 4 copies of that dark ritual

[sleek ferry]

That Murktide is so good

[golden plover]

The murktide is also gonna be (relatively) affordable for the three

The not so great looking spell pierce is for playing an event, murktide for winning

[twilit canyon]

that murktide

[last glen]

you can't purchase the Jurassic Park skins with gems
This is mondo unfortunate

[stark skiff]

Damn that Dark Ritual SLD is nice af

[lusty trench]

Man jurrasic world cards are expensive

[trail anvil]

that spell pierce flavor text is a little on the nose

[golden plover]

Too bad there's 4 of it in the US lmao

[dense berry]

im not usually a fan of secret lair alt arts but that murktide is fantastic

i hope they didnt copy and paste the dragon's head from somebody else's artwork

[trail anvil]

uh oh that does kinda look like nicol bolas huh

[rich bronze]

https://mtgdecks.net/Modern/deck-decklist-by-narca-1803980

I like this tron list

Won a recent prelim

[barren cairn]

God I hate the merfolk precon

[rich bronze]

Would y’all say we’re in a tier 0 meta

[lusty trench]

Perks of taking a land out of your deck

Free
Easy
The card you put in could save you
Cons
Literally none, just draw better???

[meager isle]

Pretty sure hoogak had double that

[rich bronze]

Never over 30% of the winners meta overall ? Iirc

Can’t find the exact numbers

But it did worse than scam does in challenges

[twilit canyon]

yea but it doesnt has to be. if murktide was not so oppressed by other decks, this would be a really fair meta between scam and murktide

[rich bronze]

Idk if I wanna play cantrips dot dek into OBM

[twilit canyon]

exactly what i mean

[meager isle]

are you seriously saying scam is better than hoogak?

[rich bronze]

I say that but the murktide scam matchup is like

50/50

[rich bronze]

More represented in challenges on modo, yes

Better? Who’s to judge

[meager isle]

well I'm asking you

do you consider scam better than hoogak

what was the top cut percentage of the last large irl event

[twilit canyon]

as a deck, scam will beat hogaak nearly 100% of the time

but as a meta presence, the modern that gaak went into didnt have nearly as many answers for it as the modern meta has answers for scam

the issue with scam is that the natural predators are not good into up the beanstalk and solitude

[meager isle]

I meant during their respective time yes

I don't mean if we unban hoogak rn

[barren cairn]

How do you follow through in any given game of mtg lol

[twilit canyon]

?

what do you mean?

[barren cairn]

Currently kinda salty ig

Just got my metaphorical kneecaps blown out from under me in a game where I was doing p good

[twilit canyon]

if u dont like losing while ur ahead, u probably dont like playing midrange/control

[rich bronze]

No

I think scam is overplayed

I also think scam is the best deck in the format

And needs a ban

[twilit canyon]

we ban bean obm and ring and the meta stablizes

[rich bronze]

Ring?

Eh

I’m off the ring ban train

beanstalk… maybe, but orcs first

[meager isle]

wasn't tron the most represented top cut at the last gp?

[rich bronze]

The numbers show that bean decks are doing TERRIBLY

[meager isle]

I wouldn't keep using modo as the end all statistics

[rich bronze]

Yes that was forever ago and has never happened again

[twilit canyon]

i think we get rid of ring and beanstalk with obm bc without obm, i think ring and obm would go crazy

[rich bronze]

Ring is DEAD

[meager isle]

because we havent had a gp since then...

no wait not gp, pt

same thing

[twilit canyon]

no no

[rich bronze]

We had a million big events

[twilit canyon]

ring and beanstalk are not doing hot

[rich bronze]

No gp

[twilit canyon]

they are objectively not good into modern's meta rn

bc they are really bad into obm

[rich bronze]

They’re doing terribly

[meager isle]

no, the last modern pt/gp was july?

maybe later but I forgot the exact day

[rich bronze]

Look, ring and bean aren’t good rn

kk

[meager isle]

in modo

[rich bronze]

Irl too

[twilit canyon]

the issue i have with beanstalk and obm is that they are inherently oppressive to non-scam and its why the modern meta cant adapt to scam

[rich bronze]

Beanstalk should go before ring does tbh

[meager isle]

gonna just ignore pt/gp like that huh?

[rich bronze]

It’s more problematic

[twilit canyon]

if they ban obm, then bean and ring should go

maybe not together yeah

maybe one goes and we see if ring is fine

without obm + bean

but idt it would be fine long-term

[rich bronze]

Ring is honestly LESS hilariously broken than bean

And I think that there’s a decent chance

[meager isle]

gotta sell lotr set before we ban obm or ring

smh

[rich bronze]

It might be ok long term

OBM goes tho

[twilit canyon]

i think ring is cracked still bc of the protection and how it can chain into itself

[rich bronze]

Bean… maybe probably

[twilit canyon]

bean is just absurd

[rich bronze]

It’s only salvaged by being 4 mana

[twilit canyon]

unless they ban all evoke elementals

[rich bronze]

At 3 it would be banned yesterday

[twilit canyon]

shit u would have to ban more than the evoke

[meager isle]

is beanstock playing in non evoke decks?

[twilit canyon]

ban lorien, cut, and binding

[meager isle]

[[lorien]]

[lost widget]

Multiple cards match “lorien”, can you be more specific?

[twilit canyon]

[[lorien revealed]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/ltr/60/lórien-revealed

Lórien Revealed <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338>

Sorcery
Draw three cards.
Islandcycling (, Discard this card: Search your library for an Island card, reveal it, put it into your hand, then shuffle.)
"Look on us now with friendly eyes! Behold the trees of the Naith of Lórien and be glad!" —Haldir

[rich bronze]

I legitimately feel that the ring will be around for a while now because of beanstalk… that’s why I bought a playset for tron, I plan to sell if/when beanstalk gets banned

I’m 100% sure that bean goes first

[twilit canyon]

i personally think they should probably go together

[rich bronze]

sold my bowmasters recently lol

[meager isle]

can we ban all the 1 mana landcyclerS?

[twilit canyon]

the 1 mana land cyclers are fine

[meager isle]

I don't like it when decks play 14 lands

[rich bronze]

I’ve played a lot and I honestly think the ToR by itself is okay even without OBM policing it… maybe

[twilit canyon]

they dont play 14 lands?

[rich bronze]

But either way if the ring is banned I doubt it crashes too hard

[twilit canyon]

i think this is only true if u play ring into murktide

or rhinos

[rich bronze]

It’s now an edh permastaple

[twilit canyon]

since ring just cannot get going into those decks without good effort on your part to stick it

[rich bronze]

OBM, however

Would crash hard

[rich bronze]

I think ring would pull an opal

Of still being ungodly expensive

When banned

[twilit canyon]

opal has the edh clout too

obm does too but to a lesser extent

since the powerlevel for ppl to include obm in edh is higher in general

[rich bronze]

I mean that’s what I said

ToR would keep most of its value if banned

Cuz edh

OBM would not

[twilit canyon]

the funniest thing they could do is restrict the one ring in every format

[rich bronze]

I don’t want a restricted list in modern

[twilit canyon]

nah not a restricted list

[rich bronze]

Higher variance for no reason

[twilit canyon]

just a rules text update for the one ring

only 1 copy allowed per deck

[rich bronze]

sure, still higher variance

Just ban it or don’t tbh

[twilit canyon]

oh i know

itd be funny though

[rich bronze]

Agreed

I still think the play is ban OBM and announce another B&R in a month or so

Then ban bean, ring or both

Depending on how it goes

I dislike preemptive bans unless it’s something egregious

Doesn’t cut it tbh

[twilit canyon]

that would be a super safe path but i do think itd make the format kinda cheeks for a bit still

i think min, they should axe obm and bean

ring maybe going a bit later

[rich bronze]

I wouldn’t complain

[rich bronze]

If it’s still broken I’d sell asap lol

[twilit canyon]

me neither. the thing is that it would just reset modern to nearly pre-lotr anyways so ppl would feel bored about it

[rich bronze]

I mean

I have creativity

Sleeved up

😛

stonks

[twilit canyon]

man thinking about creativity. i was reminded that i played into someone who was playing ent in domain creativity

the idea was there for sure but i think the brainfart was not caught fast enough

[rich bronze]

lel

man creativity seems

So fair

For a recent top deck

Somehow

doesn’t it?

[zinc shard]

shoutout to my opponent who played a spell, said "Your Go" after 5 seconds, then 3 seconds later conceded

[twilit canyon]

its midrange in the end

midrange combo

[rich bronze]

It’s twin

[twilit canyon]

but its still meant to be able to play a fair game

yea basically

2023 twin

[rich bronze]

Also why I think keeping twin banned is idiotic

Creativity does the thing but better

And it doesn’t need to run bad cards

[twilit canyon]

twin in current day modern would be so ass

yeah

twin's time has come. just like jtms and sfm and bloodbraid elf

just no longer playable magic cards in the year of our good lord 2023 tbh

sfm a lot moreso

thanks to one hammer

but the other 2?

imagine u cast twin, go to clone, and someone boseijus it past your counter magic

[rich bronze]

A guy at our lgs argues that twin needs to stay banned but gsz should be taken off immediately

Guess what they play

[twilit canyon]

elf players have no rights

[rich bronze]

They’re on titan

[twilit canyon]

Wtf

how do u want

whatever

he can remain a bad titan player for not wishing for depths

[rich bronze]

they think they deserve the boost

[fallow citrus]

the most biased opinion ever lmfao

[twilit canyon]

"i want gsz for titan" is smooth

give me dark depths and i will play titan

or field of the dead

[fallow citrus]

depths would be p cool

[twilit canyon]

actually field of the dead would be hot

[rich bronze]

Tron player : guys we need Cloudpost in modern

[twilit canyon]

look we can clown

but i was hoping to get a cantrip unbanned for murktide and we got preordain back

[rich bronze]

The preordain unban was so sus

[twilit canyon]

my next step is to subtly influence wotc to unban ponder

[rich bronze]

It sounded like some wotc exec plays murktide

And wanted his deck to be better

[fallow citrus]

misty boutta use hypnotic suggestion on wotc

[rich bronze]

“Play the cards you want banned against sheldon” tier strategy

[glad peak]

Welp time to fly to Washington

To uh… suggest the unbans of some murktide boosts

[rich bronze]

Brainstorm FoW into modern

[twilit canyon]

boosting murktide in modern by getting wotc to unban daze and wasteland

[rich bronze]

Also what modern deck do y’all think a ygo player would have the easiest time mastering

hmm

[twilit canyon]

uhhh

do they play meta current ygo?

[rich bronze]

Assume they do

[twilit canyon]

lowkey its either tron or living end

[rich bronze]

LE hmm

Maybe

Manaless dredge? Lol

Not modern tho

[fallow citrus]

There's not really a ygo esque combo deck in modern tbh

I guess twiddle kind of counts?

[rich bronze]

Pesky mana!

Don’t worry the MH3 elementals will fix that

[twilit canyon]

the reason i say living end and tron is bc they have somewhat similar ygo gameplan flow

you search for specific cards

and win the game off them

[fallow citrus]

mh3 elementals are just spirit guides with fake glasses and mustaches

[rich bronze]

UB ygo will print tear into modern

[twilit canyon]

they just unban bridge and gaak to push

tear

[rich bronze]

Bridge is honestly such a weird card

It’s absolutely not a magic card

[golden plover]

Honestly they should just do this anyways

[twilit canyon]

they cooked a little too hard

[twilit canyon]

nah fuck that

[golden plover]

The elementals have proven to be too good since release

[twilit canyon]

i dont want modern to go back to being boring

[modern minnow]

Tbf tear is the most fun yugioh deck so might as well play it in magic too

[rich bronze]

Honestly porting ygo decks to magic sounds a lot more feasible than the other way around

How would you port murktide into ygo

like ehhh uhhh

[fallow citrus]

purrely right?

you just have to treat the noir as the big murktide you drop

[modern minnow]

John murktide is prob reasonable tbh

[copper pecan]

well yeah it's futureshifted

it being weird is the point

[barren cairn]

The merfolk precon is not resilient lol

Like

Amazing how many boardwipes are dropped in the average commander game

[lusty trench]

Merfolk precon has more card draw and graveyard recursion than most

[barren cairn]

I'm not seeing the recursion lol

[barren cairn]

Haven't drawn that yet

[trail anvil]

for a second there I forgot the meme and just thought we were calling chris prat a rat for his irl actions

[dense berry]

im unaware of either

[trail anvil]

chris pratt = crypt rats

[stark skiff]

[subtle sierra]

Crispp rrat

[golden plover]

New card for stolen art tribal

And this time it's not Bolas

[lusty trench]

I knew that bauble looked off, just looks like the guy was slapped on there

[golden plover]

Hey not true. They also edited out the woman on the stairs

Artist owned up to it btw. He went "sometimes I trace backgrounds and edit them later, forgot to edit it later"

[lusty trench]

This is why you save your references and double check at the end

Still unsure why he needed to trace in the first place though, just move it in to the background to see if it feels like the thing that fits with your subject, and if it is, move it into your reference folders, repeat with multiple images, then use those as inspiration for an original background while drawing on the given design document

[golden plover]

Yeah it's a really shitty excuse "oh sometimes I trace a background as a placeholder"

Makes me wonder how many traced backgrounds are still part of his art

[dense berry]

lets not hire Terese Nielsen anymore but lets keep paying these lazy college kids to steal art for use in our game

you hate to see it

[golden plover]

I mean we can not hire terese and also not hire the thieves

And the most notable stolen piece wasn't even a college kid

It was Jason Engel, who has been doing art for the game for 10+ years

[dense berry]

Jason Felix, but yeah

im just saying i would personally prefer to have a skilled Republican artist doing work for the game as opposed to the art thieves theyre hiring now

when the twitter drama is some 60yo lesbian lady retweeting alex jones because its funny vs some devastated artist who has been trying to get their work into the game unsuccessfully for years has to post about how their art was stolen and used in a mtg card

[lusty trench]

David sondered has does multiple MTG pieces, most of which don't have backgrounds other than a sky or dark room

So I'd be very interested to see if this piece was plagiarised as well

[dense berry]

just looked through his catalog

very mid

very in line with the shitty cheap digital art direction they have moved to

hopefully they no longer hire him

[copper pecan]

there are plenty of skilled artists that aren't racist conspiracy theorists

[dense berry]

yeah but none as skilled, recognized and beloved as Terese

[copper pecan]

[dense berry]

also literally nobody has shown the racist tweets from terese everyone just references them

[copper pecan]

terese hasn't been "beloved" for years

[dense berry]

the most i found was she followed alex jones

i saw a tweet from her in response to the drama saying she doesnt have a problem with any group of people

[dense berry]

thats not true we actually have a guy at locals who has an entire collection of her work

[copper pecan]

she was following so many alt right news outlets that there is absolutely no way she wasn't an alt righter

[dense berry]

i followed donald trump that doesnt make me a republican

[copper pecan]

https://twitter.com/wizardbumpin/status/1030568575474561024

it was more than just infowars

https://twitter.com/pintacso/status/1014223365358440448

https://twitter.com/NerdyLexicon/status/1133798728521977856
she also liked multiple explicitly racist tweets

[dense berry]

you haven't produced racist tweets from Terese you have done what everyone else does when asked to show Terese being a racist / terf and posted pictures of accounts she followed

[golden plover]

She also gave art to a racist podcast

[copper pecan]

if she wasn't racist then explain why she was following so many racist people

[dense berry]

keep your enemies close perhaps

[copper pecan]

explain why she liked a tweet that was literally saying the us is controlled by a jewish conspiracy

[dense berry]

youve proved shes likely a conservative

is that the ZioCon tweet

idk what that is

[golden plover]

I mean, giving art to a qanon podcast is a big sign

Like it wasn't commissioned

She gifted it to them

[dense berry]

she can give her art to whoever

shes clearly conservative

[golden plover]

Yeah but if you give art to a far right conspiracy theory podcast, they can choose to drop you

They did the same to Seb

[copper pecan]

genuine question do you seriously not thing that gifting art to a qanon podcast isn't an explicit endorsement of their beliefs

[golden plover]

Reminder WoTC doesn't employ the artists

They're commissioned

[copper pecan]

like i don't understand how you can possibly take that as anything other than an admission of being a qanon supporter

[golden plover]

There's no "firing" or anything

They just simply stop buying art from them

[dense berry]

she can support whatever she wants to her art is that good

and not stolen

[copper pecan]

do you think wotc specifically asked for stolen art or something

[dense berry]

theyre asking for it with their reduced standards of excellence

[golden plover]

Wotc dropped Jason

They're probably gonna drop David too

[copper pecan]

when they commissioned the guy who stole the stuff they didn't ask him to steal stuff, he did that on his own

[dense berry]

yeah and his not stolen stuff sucks almost as bad as his stolen stuff

i bet his commission is a lot cheaper than Terese

[golden plover]

I mean, they bring on a lot of artists every set and some always suck, yeah

Hell, I've noticed that a lot of UB artists aren't the same as their "core" artists. Same with alchemy

They've probably got varying tiers of artists they bring on and prices per

[copper pecan]

terese neilson isn't like the best artist in the world or something, they have no reason to go out of their way to commission her instead of the thousands of other artists they could commission

[golden plover]

But we're not gonna know unless every WoTC artist mentions the prices

[dense berry]

id imagine theyre NDA'd on that

[golden plover]

Probably

Jason Rainville mentioned he put in way more work for [[Storm the Seedcore]] than he'd get paid for it

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/mom/206/storm-the-seedcore

Storm the Seedcore <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manag:292901508654301185><:manag:292901508654301185>

Sorcery
Distribute four +1/+1 counters among up to four target creatures you control. Creatures you control gain vigilance and trample until end of turn.
In that moment, the fate of countless worlds rested with one dryad and a handful of the bravest Mirrodin had to offer.

[golden plover]

But he chose to do that one

Iirc artists have mentioned that magic pays better than hearthstone, but worse than other tcgs

But we also don't know the numbers realistically, so that could mean anything

[dense berry]

shes very good, highly recognized within the brand and not an art thief, thats three reasons

[golden plover]

I mean Wylie Beckert is also very good

And Dominik Mayer

[dense berry]

what happened with them

[golden plover]

And Bastien Givert

And none of them are racist

[dense berry]

yeah none of those have enough works in the game to make an edh deck

not guay / terese tier

[golden plover]

Mayer is getting there, but they're all newer

[lusty trench]

Hell Mayer now has a crypt

[golden plover]

True. Mayer does really good works

Like yeah, it sucks Nielsen doesn't do MTG art now, but she was also a shitty person

Same with Seb

[dense berry]

im super curious about Seb

because i always disliked his artwork

[lusty trench]

Mayer is actually insanely close to having a playable deck

[golden plover]

Both are great artists, but if Wotc wants to not pay them, they don't need to put up with shitty people

[lusty trench]

Actually let me check

[dense berry]

but people acted like he was the second coming of Guay

[golden plover]

Mayer has been getting a TON of commissions from wotc lately

[golden plover]

Seb went to the Canadian anti-vax trucker Nazi rally and went "well I don't see any Nazis, and these people have good ideas"

Basically outed himself as an anti-vax idiot at best and a Nazi defender at worst

[dense berry]

lmao what do you have a link to the scoop

[golden plover]

It was on his Instagram, it's probably since been deleted

[dense berry]

somebody has to have screenshots

[golden plover]

Here's the text from it

Oh my God I forgot about "a world without QR codes"

What does that mean Seb?

[dense berry]

you know if he didnt have the QR code thing this could have come off as legitimately heartfelt albeit misguided

[golden plover]

I mean it's kinda defending the Nazi organizers

[rigid scarab]

Oh did chat go back to body checking artists

[golden plover]

The discussion was "why were Seb and Therese dropped"

So it's receipts

And David Sondred stealing art

[rigid scarab]

Every art is varying degrees of stealing

[dense berry]

Terese dipped her toes into the pool, Seb dove head first into the deep end

[rigid scarab]

David's was just

On a very high eshelon

[golden plover]

I mean he outright said "oh I sometimes trace backgrounds and usually change them later"

Which means there's probably at least other cards that he didn't change the background on

[rigid scarab]

I don't think there's anything INHERENTLY wrong with tracing backgrounds as a reference point

[golden plover]

Also, speaking of art theft. The girl that Jason Felix stole art from actually has magic art now

[dense berry]

yoooo

[golden plover]

Only the two

[dense berry]

finally talent

[golden plover]

But she's got art that wasn't stolen from her Deviantart now

[dense berry]

all they have to do to increase art quality and decrease the copying and pasting of artworks is go back to using paintings

[rigid scarab]

Have the artists draw on paper and then scan it

[copper pecan]

i don't think there has been a decrease in quality at all is the thing

[dense berry]

thats certainly a take

[rigid scarab]

When was the last Word of Command incident

[copper pecan]

most cards have average to good art, same as always

[dense berry]

average is just a softer word for mid

[lusty trench]

Fellas with this talk of Dominik Mayer I present to you

https://scryfall.com/@Grandurza/decks/e6d68732-7038-420e-a9d7-58c6eb9d8b5c

A legal Dominik Mayer deck

[dense berry]

smh not even lands not guay tier

lmao

the most recognizable artists from the game are all gone

[lusty trench]

Only like 100% dead card in the deck is teferis talent

As the only planes walker Dominik did is not legal

[golden plover]

Sucks too, because that cards art is cool

[lusty trench]

And considering it's a 65 card deck, you can just cut it

[dense berry]

im glad they sometimes get guay back though

the way they let her go initially was bad

something about her style being "too feminine for mtg's art direction moving forward"

and iirc Richard Garfield was like hell nah what

[lusty trench]

I think the best place for guays work would be more ethereal or high fantasy work, for lorwyn I hope they get her back

[dense berry]

guay lorwyn dont play with my emotions now

just have her do the entire block

[trail anvil]

this deck is actually so fun

golgari go-wide with cryptolith rite goes hard af

[fallow citrus]

[[cryptolith rite]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/soi/200/cryptolith-rite

Cryptolith Rite <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manag:292901508654301185>

Enchantment
Creatures you control have ": Add one mana of any color."
The chant was incomprehensible, but its power was unmistakable.

[trail anvil]

you make a million tokens then you have a million mana

[fallow citrus]

[trail anvil]

there's so many synergies within this deck it's crazy

and you can always just access craterhoof to end the game out of nowhere

[clever sun]

[[The Mycotyrant]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/lci/235/the-mycotyrant

The Mycotyrant <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manab:292901508872273920><:manag:292901508654301185>

Legendary Creature — Elder Fungus
Trample
The Mycotyrant's power and toughness are each equal to the number of creatures you control that are Fungi and/or Saprolings.
At the beginning of your end step, create X 1/1 black Fungus creature tokens with "This creature can't block," where X is the number of times you descended this turn. (You descend each time a permanent card is put into your graveyard from anywhere.)
*/*

[clever sun]

Ah right the big fun-guy

I think this guy has a chance in Alchemy and Historic with the other Fungus/Saproling cards

But also Elder Fungus is such a fun creature type

[sleek ferry]

I swear by the mycotyrant in standard rn

He’s my guy

[trail anvil]

razaketh ❤️

stole the fucking power nine generator with breach the multiverse, razakethed for time walk

[zinc shard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OkZHoNpJ1E

[lusty trench]

New secret lair cards, they come in galaxy foil

The rest of the lairs are whatever

[golden plover]

You're right

https://preview.redd.it/pipvwyko8j1c1.png?width=1080&format=png&auto=webp&s=649ffa2f30d98bad51c805cc223febb2ab172d59

These suck lmao

Why are they all templated different

Also the lotus god is for spending $200 on cards. It's $190 US for the non-foil bundle lmao

[lusty trench]

Best card in that lair is rampaging ferocidon, most expensive is polyraptor, this lair is like $22 in singles

[barren cairn]

The different templating is

[lusty trench]

The Lara croft one is hard carried by shadow spear and I'm not even sure it makes the $40 base value

The Ian Malcolm one is

Well it exists

Mycosynth wave is also something that exists, as is showcase lost caverns

Tales of the time stoppers is absymal

[twilit canyon]

https://teddyfresh.com/collections/tf-x-magic-the-gathering

this is sick

[lusty trench]

Bro the model looks so done in these images

[fallow citrus]

considering I can find the extended art ones for like 15 euros on cardmarket I'd say it isn't lmao

[lusty trench]

Lmao

[fallow citrus]

sorry meant 20 euros for extended

normal is like 10-20 depending on seller

[lusty trench]

Tales of the time stoppers is legit worth a 20 pack of chicken mcnuggets

💀

[barren cairn]

[lusty trench]

Wotc really shitting themselves after printing both blightsteel and emerakul in a lair this year huh

[sudden lava]

T-rex as Etali, she got the justice she deserved

[golden plover]

I wouldn't agree. Etali has a billion printings and despite being one of my favorite creatures, isn't exactly exciting now

Man that lotus god actually sucks

https://preview.redd.it/noj9udqcdj1c1.png?auto=webp&s=15df8286af86346ead99b4c9907e6f9864a08588

It's weird it's not even in the same style as the Scarab god

Why is the flying on the side like that

[rigid scarab]

Eh I like it

[sudden lava]

completely missed what I said

[golden plover]

I like it better than the Scarab God

[sudden lava]

they did her dirty here

[golden plover]

Yeah she should have just been legendary here

But making her randomly etali doesn't fix it

Etali isn't really fitting for Rexy

[sudden lava]

But now she can be a commander

as she should've been in the first place

[golden plover]

Unfortunately that commander is Etali

[lusty trench]

Them as zacama or gishath would've been good but they just reprinted gishath in the set

[sudden lava]

Ian SL

[golden plover]

Also Etali isn't even a trex?

She's a spinosaur

Which is also in the lair

It's a really weird fail to make Etali Rexy

[lusty trench]

This lair is so bad

[golden plover]

Ghalta is actually a trex

You know they're gonna kill the fucking tasugir meme too

Like it's gonna be all the advertising for the lairs

[fallow citrus]

the tasigur lmfao

[sudden lava]

Im waiting for the doctor who SLs

specifically the one that hasnt been released yet

[lusty trench]

Probably won't be till Jan when the 14th is come and gone

[sudden lava]

yeah

[golden plover]

Oh my God the locust god thing is actually way worse than the Scarab God one

The Scarab God lair bundle came out to $195 so you'd have to add another lair

This time the bundle is $210, but it's "10% off" so it comes out to $190

Which means you don't get the locust god

[copper pecan]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/948945461597831218/1176204644997943366/image.png?ex=656e04f0&is=655b8ff0&hm=3a3f980a8f49d8dca8e34bebd2dfa64ae63a6b207a433e776be68fc45f09d310&=&width=311&height=417

jeff goldblum magic the gathering ahegao real?????

[fallow citrus]

I do not like that sentence

[golden plover]

I do not like that card art

Wow that's cursed

[last glen]

It's disastrous

There's something too uncanny about that whole Secret Lair

[trail anvil]

normally I'm a secret lair apologist but wow that's terrible

[last glen]

I don't think it even captures the mood of the scene it's referencing well

[dense berry]

is the thumbnail the actual art on the card

wtf has happened to the art in this game

im not even gonna talk about the shitty secret lair art since thats expected to be shitty since SLD stuff is literally made to be wotc's best production cost to profit ratio product

the art in LCI is just messy

[barren cairn]

lmao

[dense berry]

looking through alix branwyn's catalogue for mtg there are some good works i just really don't care for how plastic their people look

[lusty trench]

Wayfarers bauble artist has been banished to the shadow realm

https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/statement-on-wayfarers-bauble

[copper pecan]

[dense berry]

the worst part of the art was the stuff he added; nothing of value was lost today

i bet this took under an hour worth of work

[trail anvil]

kami of the crescent moon group hug mill ❤️

[sleek ferry]

@meager isle I just saw the new Lotr product in person and it’s actually beautiful

[meager isle]

Oh it has a new rarity?

[sleek ferry]

6 scene cards + 3 set booster packs

[meager isle]

Oh the entire product not the specific cards

[sleek ferry]

These things https://www.tcgplayer.com/product/515910/magic-the-gathering-universes-beyond-the-lord-of-the-rings-tales-of-middleearth-the-lord-of-the-rings-tales-of-middleearth-scene-box-gandalf-in-the-pelennor-fields?country=US&utm_campaign=18143931802&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_content=&utm_term=&adgroupid=&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAiAx_GqBhBQEiwAlDNAZmTeuOzxy6w7eiobp3hQY0Ybf22ljAMwLuLQT-bT_HT1NVXKvVp8rhoCcj0QAvD_BwE

[meager isle]

Yeah I guess they were going for a Christmas gift esque thing and it works

[sleek ferry]

Also set booster boxes are super affordable now compared to before

$140ish

[meager isle]

I thought they were lower

Or was that main set

[sleek ferry]

Draft boxes are 120

But iirc Lotr draft is pretty ass

[meager isle]

[sleek ferry]

Eldraine draft was pretty fun though

Haven’t done ixalan yet

[fallow citrus]

oh shit

magic con chicago

counterspell is for entry and ponder is on-site store purchases

[lusty trench]

Bruvac looking at you like "spell text is in the name dumbass"

[golden plover]

Why does bruvac look like the comedy character in a 2000s British movie lmao

[lusty trench]

...

They dedicated an ad slot to this in the caverns of ixalan packs

Memed creature known for attacking ships and eating them and the crew within... Herbivore secret lair version