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hmmmm
Also any random 2M baseku throws at you is now a TOD
Apparently the official English patch notes dropped
Does someone have a link?
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@cosmic forge also you can combo into body change through Level 1 into Level 3
corner only tho
According to patchnotes only the red one should be plus?
apparently charged dust now gives positive bonus?
The finishing attack does
The red one guard crushes but we don’t know the frame data on any of it anyways
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Wait. @late frost
“Last Resort - Attack can now be comboed into.”
I HAVE NO OTHER OPTIONS.
(It only does 25% if you combo into it.)
Very free three bars spent
plus assist because there's no way to combo into it by itself
Plus I'm pretty sure it does less than the minimum damage on his other Level 3. (Could be wrong about that tho)
The big meme here for me is Tien absolutely mashing Tri-Beam in limit
I mean thats how I played Tien
Good old raw Level 7
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Oh my god this is comedy
It's extremely good at stopping SD
@austere garnet I dont remember if you ever played FighterZ but this is frankly funny even if oyu havent
Why is it so active lmao
Man
Some part of me was waiting for arcsys to say "sike" and release the "actual" balance changes
Doesnt look like its possible anymore
Is Yamcha WFF into DR any good
It's a real threat
Unfortunately you won't get big damage off it, but it's another thing for your opponent to worry about
LK said white wild assaults aren’t frame 1 invuln 
We’ll see but if that’s the case it might be potemkover bros…
cowards 
Pretty sure I'm already confirmed this
UK*
no it's different for everyone I hear
also I can doomer now
the sin buffs SUCK
I remember them addressing both fs and beak on the notes, no food* but I guess they don't want that move to be real in this game
wait i thought that wild assault used meter?
just saw kizzie kay labbing a combo and it didn't
It uses burst meter
supposedly, yes
kizzie kay doing 100% tension and 50% burst combo on johnny that doesn't do 50% on wallbreak
combo was sick though
There are 3 variations
Orange is fast and good for combos
Blue does a guard crush but isnt invuln, Im not sure what its good for
White is invuln midway and guard crushes and is the by far best one
wait sorry wtf there's variations of using it?
i was more meaning by for each character
ahh ok
why has nago got it whilst 6H now guard crushes?
also they actually just gave nago a non super reversal lmao
🤷
Like its weird because Nago was also generally arguably buffed
And he got the best version of WA
The other 3 that have it are Bedman who was ass, Potemkin who was mediocre, and Goldlewis who got nerfed for it
so he received nerfs for previous moves but new content buffed him up in general?
btw which characters got the new special moves mentioned?
oh that was more about them saying there was new specials like may jumping off dolphin
why ram
Yes! Hell yeah! Come on baby! Come on!
It’s also good for combos
Staggers on hit cancels into everything
Imo it’s better than orange
In most senses
It also guard crushes
Millia having a blue one is good bc it lets her guarantee HKD off hits from anything
If you’re somehow too far for 2k to hit you can cancel into mirazh throw or c.S and it combos
Also i saw zedediah lab setups that beat deflect shield and still give you 50/50s
So we’re still back
You can do CH 2p into 6h into wild assault into a HKD, or get 2 50/50s on block
Im trying it on Millia and it just doesnt seem to work from anything
Like idk how to combo into it
Maybe Ill just wait til people figure out how it works
5h
C.s too I think
6h
It combos off any level 2 normals I’m pretty sure
Maybe that’s just the orange one
Based
Ngl Im liking Bonnet
I might switch to her fulltime from Millia as well
I don’t think you can combo into charged WA but it doesn’t really matter
Ino gets a lot of stray buffs from system changes too
She can convert off her best pokes much easier
/ at all
Ok so i gave johnny a try
Ino suffered a lot from having good pokes but not being able to convert off them
Ngl i not sure if i like playing him
Idk might just be a personal thing
He feels kinda
Boring?
Like, the card stuff is cool but it's basically all that he can do
Well it’s kind of hard for Johnny to live up to the hype
Ino dives still have low enough recovery to link 2k after a TK
I think that means they just reverted it to pre patch
yeah cards were always gonna be less fun than coins
coins and leveled up mist finer were what made him bonkers in xrd
I still think he’s really fun though
I'll have to play him once I get my hands on the dlc
Mfc feels weird kind of
It doesn’t look like it has recovery but it feels like it
Tbh I think its early to say how fun Johnny is
oh did they nerf it?
You can still do it in combos though
Since people havent figured out stance cancel stuff yet likely
big fan of the anti projectile super
Mfc?
Mist Finer Cancel
Mist finer cancel
you could turn any move into plus on block
eh it's pretty easy to play him for a day and decide whether you like him or not
whether others get advanced tech or not later on
Still wondering why was anji the one character who got hit the hardest
Ram is right there
Anji caught a lot of strays but also he’s still fine ish
Zatos also right there
also zato is right there
Zato actually died
Apparently (according to my friend) Zato players are saying hes fine?
nah Anji is eating really damn good
Fish is actually a good move so we'll take those
Fish is good and the system mechanics are good for him
I heard gobou thinks zato is still good
hold on gimme a sec
Apparently the changes to P followup are good too
let it upload
I’m more than sure that zato is still relevant
He just struggles more at what he already did before
anji's new move eats jabs so he has meaty oki now
Yeah anjis move takes away a huge amount of the risk of spin in neutral
It gives anji a real option vs projectiles and jabs which he didn’t have before
prc grab was the thing I hated most about spin
Nerfing damage doesn’t matter when everyone’s damage got nerfed too
I don't know why you got to lose on your own counter if your opp had meter
Everyone’s damage got nerfed
Like literally everyone I think does less damage now
Nago kind of looking crazy again btw
No 6h fukyo otg but he has actual high lows now
Oh yea btw
What do people think of HC now?
Havent seen much strive content post s3
I haven't seen enough
It’s day 1
right now, and this is day 1 keep in mind
I'd say Happy Chaos is probably worse now?
just by looking at data
he does a lot less damage off his wall-to-wall counterhit wallbreak combo
I want to say that burst being fullscreen also kinda matters a bit
Everyone agrees he’s worse nobody knows how worse
Yea
HC can still do steady aim shoot block burst
I think the question people are asking is
"will Leffen be able to rob a Top 8 at EVO with HC again"
like the real question
HC still seems like a tournament winning character
well certainly but not rob a Top 8 with like
four straight 3-0's
certainly not "I have zero losing matchups"
If all they nerfed was his damage that doesn’t really affect his matchup spread that much
Damage is maybe the least important thing to consider in a matchup unless it’s at an extreme like nago being able to kill chipp off one interaction and a guess
HC still has best in class neutral, very good offense etc
If anything the wall slump nerf matters more than the damage one
Which is huge
Also is it really robbing a top 8 if he cleared with all 3-0s
I know leffen is an asshole and all of that but it’s not like being a bitch who plays a good character takes away his skill
nah it's nothing to do with leffen's personality
This is like when lost soul won every major for 8 months straight with elphelt and people said he sucked
did you see the matches?
the main flow of the matches was HC gets any hit -> converts into a wallbreak -> positive bonus lets him either reset resources + neutral or let him continue pressure -> they either get hit again and die to a second wallbreak conversion
Yes
or they get zoned out by chaos' buttons
That’s a character being good
If it was any other player on HC would you say he robbed his way through top 8
People didn’t talk about umisho like that
yes, I hate the character and I've been hating him since he came out
And she played him when he was even better and in a more cuntass way
I don't like Leffen but I don't think highly of Umisho either for that
I think umisho was and remains to be one of the best strive players
Playing a good character doesn’t make a player worse or morally bankrupt or whatever
Play a game to win
I mean tbh Umisho also just plays whoever she finds fun
ye
She switched off HC to an arguably weaker character
How long has she played sol now
I think it was Sol most recently wasnt it
by "don't think highly" I just mean I don't stan them
Yeah she’s on sol now
I don't think they're Hitler
Leffen's personality is another issue though, absolutely
Shrug
I would be fine with his sort of dickish tone but the controversy involving Mew2King is something that's inexcusable p much
What was the controversy again?
The day i respect leffen is when he gets top 8 at tekken's evo
people accused Mew2King of sexual assault, and he had to come out and reveal to pretty much everyone in the world that he had a condition that categorically made it impossible for any of the allegations to be true
and it was explicitly something he didn't want revealed because he thought it'd be something he would be made fun of for
So real
oh right they made fafnir fullscreen right
They made revolver hit lower to the ground made 2k 5f buffed far slash
Fafnir hits from like 2/3 of the screen
Buffed 6h but it still sucks
Also system stuff is good for him
He gets a casual 200 meterless off ch f.s
Whereas before I’m pretty sure he had to RC to get in that range
With wild assault
And Leffen was involved in that somehow?
yeah
@cosmic forge I just realized they powercrept Yamcha (again)
one of Yamcha's unique strengths is that he can naturally combo his Level 1 into Level 3
but now everyone can do it on anchor
Wow, DBFZ is really lore accurate
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Why lmao
for the comedy
it's so that he can say "nothing personal, kid"
Tien got some nice buffs but like not too many
Who got buffed the hardest this patch do you think
He needs it
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god johnny's theme is such a banger
just lean
need to review themes again, have to say town inside me has grown on me slightly
Man
I definitely am not as good at the game as I used to be
You ever play so hard your fingers start bleeding?
Oops
2M
so i tried playing nago with crawl on the background
i should try that again sometime
welp.
beats dp, beats white wild assualt, is yrc proof, doesn't build them tension to super until after the throw if they dont fd, you cant press a button to hit me out of the loop. its an actual checkmate off of roundstart.
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There are options to beat HC steady shot GC
You can dash block into his face to RPS with him or if you have a good backdash you can backdash shot and then you’re at an advantage I believe
Neither are easy but it’s not like HC hits you once and you should just unplug, people have already labbed out all the counterplay to steady aim from before they nerfed it
So strive has basically outright removed regional pricings from steam at the start of season 3
Wtf
Man i love Just Lean
In a game whose tracks are all about self reflection and talk about the character's viewpoint in life
Johnny's theme is just "This man never took an L ever"

@faint ice midare is so broken I don’t even care about the fuujin nerfs
we do love fish
It just lets him blunt force interactions at literally every point of the game
It’s + enough on block that he can just do whatever afterwards too
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Trunks Level 3 will never not be hysterical to me
though hearing the japanese version was a mild jumpscare lmao
people complained about the low grab range so much that ArcSys snapped
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Bro I can roll you with bottom 1
Yeah bro. You're not ready for my jacko. I'll start you off with bedman to test your skills
Anji changes make him a real character

Anji was a real character before
He was fine before he’s better now
Fish makes spin one of the most ignorant and easily blunt forced moves in the game and in exchange anjis RPS on offense isn’t as good
it's exaggeration for the sake of portrayal of my elation
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@rare yacht this seems like a combo youd enjoy
man
my favorite part of the namek saga was when refrigerator said "さらなる進化を求めて正解だった" and then started goldening all over the place
@austere garnet which game was Sean good in
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It wasn’t new generation was it
NG and 2nd strike
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2nd Impact specifically he was top tier iirc
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Her lack of reasoning for wanting to be in MK other than to be in MK is kinda weird, but I've seen Jennifer's body, so Nitara could be a good performance from her. 
I don’t believe in asuka like that idk
Simply don’t have the faith
I also believe in Bridget a lot more than that
Idk he might be
Sol was really underrated last patch
Until the end when people realized how strong he was
Roster wide nerfs are bad for him but equally bad for other very strong characters (most notably Ram), and the advantages he gets out of using WA are insane
Meanwhile his gameplan isn’t exactly susceptible to deflect shield and his f.s got buffed
Sol finally gets a good reward off of 6s again, can hard knockdown much more consistently and fundamentally didn’t really lose much besides BR2 jumpscare in neutral
Combined with very large nerfs to some of his worst matchups
I don’t think at this point that bed is really distinguishably worse than like
Pot
I have no idea who to play this patch
That might be my biggest disagreement on the list actually
I wanna just laser focus on one character
it's between Chipp, Bridget, and Giovanna
note: I haven't played Chipp seriously at all in Strive
all 3 of your options are solid at least and fairly different too
but if you're a fan of abusing movement it may not be bridget
probably Chipp then
when I played him in accent core vs friends it was the first time I felt free in an FG
It is just kizzie's feels after say 2 weeks of the patch
I don’t think beds actually bottom 1 and ^
but bedman is a lot better
Yeah idk that list doesnt seem right
But also he still has some really core issues
Test and Gold below Millia is weird
I don’t think he’s really strong I just think he’s actually fine now
Since Test got massively buffed and Gold has White WA, while Millia seems to have been nerfed relative to the cast?
I knew a message including millia & gold was coming
Bed before the buffs was like pseudo not a real character
Test buffs weren’t really massive
i can't tell if the jack-o change to her super (from throw to strike) is a nerf or buff yet
seems just different
Millia definitely improved
Its a buff tbh
The super change was v good
And millia benefits massively from WA, has plenty of ways to deal with deflect shield, and also didn’t get her damage reduced that much comparatively to cast
Her pressure got safer which is huge
Where do you use WA on Millia?
And everybody doing less damage benefits characters like her and chipp more than your average sol bad guy
can you wild assault in air?
Literally anywhere you want
No
Thats been the issue I had trying to figure her out, and when I watched top level Millia players they also basically never used WA on anything other than wallbreaks
Deflect Shield does also stuff some of her disc oki, though not the full oki
Which isnt a big deal
But its also one of the few things Deflect Shield is actually good at
I’ve been using it to hitconfirm off far pokes, mixup during positive pressure, but mostly for wall breaks
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uhhh, I'll see if im lazy for locals or not
kk
Orange combos off level 2 normals and blue combos off level 3
I don't know millia inside or out
but she definitely has routes that connect now
that did not connect last patch
And again beyond system mechanics millia pressure is a lot safer now
Which was one of like the super core core issues she had
Are you sure?
And she wasn’t exactly bad
... wait lemme just test it actually
She wasnt bad, but she was low mid-tier
Whereas Gold and Test were significantly higher already
And Test got mad buffed
There was a very low perception of test coming into this patch
Most people thought test was dogshit
And again test didn’t really get mad buffs
5h change is nice 214s/h changes are nice but neither are exactly game changing
It took me an unreasonable amount of time to even figure out what possession change did
I thought i was misinputing
Ok checked youre right
Didn't 6h get a lot better
oh maybe I'm thinking of 5H
Or just mirazh throw
Like fS 5H WA doesnt get you a combo does it
The 5h buff is like fine
It does
I think I already told you that when the patch dropped even
yeah mb 6h is already the good one you use into succubus super
Doesnt work?
It depends on the space
Well Mirazh cS
At the very tip I think you might only be able to mirazh 2k 2d
If you have run momentum with f.s it definitely works though
I can only get it as a blue combo
Also I saw testament players say that they shadow nerfed w the grave digger proximity thing
Something about tick throws
Idk
I can’t post the clips in this server bc file size but I have multiple clips of doing wild assault into various conversions
It definitely works
Is there a way to not sideswitch?
Backthrow after mirazh
Also do you have a route that gives you proper disc oki?
Mmh
Idk, I still think Gold at the very least is rated too low, and I wouldnt put Millia in the same category as Banquet or Ky
Sin being that high is wild though
Apparently the buffs this time were really good?
Sin buffs are yuge
Ram is also weirdly high
Kara super not costing stamina is giant, new backdash is giant, all the other buffs are good too
Ram is still ramlethal idk
Didnt she get a shadow nerf too ontop of the nerfs she already got?
She still has massive fuckoff buttons and good pressure
And the new special is really good
Ram is very good because her kit loves wild assault and her new move is great
Also yeah wild assault is like made with Ram buttons in mind
Hm
I guess we wont have the tournament results to make any good conclusions for a while so
I guess maybe she is fine
I think most of the stuff on that list is probably pretty true I just really don’t believe in asuka like that
I think he’s good but inherently like really volatile
I mean the test case 3 setup is stupid
And he is also stupid tanky
So I can believe it
Im more unsure on Chipp and Ram
Chipp mostly because whiffpunishing got a lot easier for everyone
Once asuka eats like one hit he loses all his mana and has the lowest life total in the game lol
And thats like, the thing he had going for him
Only if they manage mana poorly, iirc a full mana bar requires you to take about 2/3 of your hp to deplete
mortobato not doing 90% on its own anymore is nice at least
And beyond that asuka loses to getting hit in a much more immediate sense
During which you have the highest life total in the game by a lot
Is an issue I found
Asuka health is deceptive
Like iirc without mana he takes 1.5 times damage, which is higher than the highest chipp has of ... 1.27?
the asuka player is always using HP mana regen unless they have free meter
And with mana he takes 0.75 damage, lower than the lowest of 0.96 that Pot has
Well he’s not often going to have a completely full mana bar unless you’re getting rolled, asuka players normally use health mana regen, and he has one single DP that’s extremely slow, no reversal super
Like I don’t think he sucks
0.94 actually for Pot
I just don’t think he’s like super ultra strong
Also for Millias damage, does haircar only scale when it starts the combo or when its used in the combo?
He seems like a super feast or famine character
The latter I believe
Doesnt that reduce her damage quite a bit then?
Since iirc the optimal routes all went through haircar
The corner to corner c.s route maybe got a notable damage decrease but most of her routes go into hair car towards the end of the combo
And even otherwise millia going from dealing 220 damage to like 190 is much less of a big deal than like sol going from 300 to 200 if yk what I mean
I mean thats generally true except
I dont think Sol lost any damage this patch did he?
BR proration is huge
The only new routes sol got use WA
Which casually scales your combo insanely hard
Also there is something funny of putting Millia and Johnny adjacent in the same tier given how many Millia players have now switched to Johnny
Unless they found a new crackhead route using 2k that was previously unthinkable
Oh wait looks like Zed is sticking to Millia
Rat however switched 
Which is a real shame, I loved watching Rats millia
Rat made people stop downplaying millia and then switched to a different character
Truly a modern LK
Idk if people really were downplaying Millia tbh
They certainly were
She just genuinely wasnt that good, he was just the best Millia tbh
Millia was never in my opinion remotely close to bottom 3 or bottom 5
Even then sometimes he just got into matchups where its like "welp, I lose I guess"
Oh like that
Eh she hasnt been bottom 5 in ages
But Id say somewhere between launch and the first patch of launch she was
She hasn’t been bottom 5 ever besides maybe actual release patch
You should see Faust
But yeah Id say from second patch onwards she was usually somewhere in the lower half of midtier
Fausts in a similar state ye
nah
Started a bit worse
Faust is cooking
Nah Faust this patch is cracked
Not even going crazy about this patch
Only took the most pushed move ever
Id say Faust this patch is somewhere on Axls level tbh
but yeah he was awful launch but they really made him a solid character
Maybe higher
Cancel item toss into normals why not
Then again Axl is like a weird enigma
I think Faust is like a real character now
I still dont know what to think about him
But I just didn’t see the vision before
Everyone said he was like finally good last patch or the one before that I just did not understand
Like Axl is on paper a Zoner but it feels like every Axl I watch is a crackhead who just runs in to combo you
Apologyman made him look broken but apologyman is also insane
And somehow it works???
Generational trauma
obv just a weekly but top millias are enjoying https://twitter.com/TeamSaltyEU/status/1698813246927417627/photo/1
apologyman did so much work
In older games axl was a midrange character as opposed to a zoner
Oh I dont know Sorani
In xrd he was basically Leo
Nice to see Eddiction doing well tho
- on block crossup special combined with an 8f DP
Axl historically has been inclined to play as less of a zoner bc the risk reward of his zoning is generally not super favorable
Which has only gotten worse as time goes on
And yeah now that I checked out some early tournament results
Millia is actually kinda cooking
Guess I just cant wrap my head around her new stuff
Well I think the most important changes are like
Sorani won another one too
The insidious ones
Gold is also doing really well in early results, as is HC (duh), Sin, Jack'O (?) and Chipp
Like H DP nerfs, proration nerfs, weight changes
Have yet to see a single Ram top though
Thing is zando's generally been the top ram and he's on Asuka atm
I mean ye but its not just top of top level players topping since its mostly smaller tournaments
nah ram since launch I believe
Solstice switched to gio, zando switched to asuka
But no Ram player is doing well
All of the top Ram players switched a few patches ago
GideonTG is like an ok player iirc but he topped twice under the new patch I think?
I mean imo
Ram is just consistently overrated by the western players
I think Japan has a better assessment of Ram
There are like 0 Ram players in jp
They all dropped her after the j.h nerf which was like day 5
Lmfaoooo
Loaded statement
There's SQ in NA I guess
Another 2 Golds 
Gold is definitely rated too low, character is kinda cracked rn
fS nerf hurts but white WA is crazy
It is just kizzie's pov
Yeah remember
Being able to WA into starting pressure is kinda insane on Gold ngl
Oh Marvelo is still on Chipp?
I thought he switched to Asuka
Kizzy plays an extremely midrange dominant character who has pretty high damage
Which definitely informs his opinions
Anyway for now I think Imma stick with Johnny
I just need to learn how to actually play Johnny
I might be playing Johnny too aggressive? Im guessing he is supposed to be more midrange
(Who struggles to contest close range hyper aggressive offense)
((sol/ram/chipp))
johnny 6k is made for the fearless
Thats not even the one
I just keep trying to do TK Mist Finers after doing regular pressure
Only do TK finer if you have a card down
Otherwise you’re begging for death
The thing about Johnnys pressure is that you can choose to safely disengage at basically any time
Yeah you can just do 2144 and then actually releasing MF while you’re dashing can catch mashing
Mmh
I think fastest possible MFC is 22f
Tbh it might just be that Im not used to playing midrange characters
Idr what attack levels his normals are
Except Hakumen
But Hakumen is weird
(And fun)
I guess Ill just have to learn Johnny
Also is Deal unsafe on hit?
(Air deal)
Depends on how deep you are
It knocks down if you hit with his hand
Don’t try to use it like pin though
Pin would destroy strive
Also didn’t they say they aren’t bringing back legacy moves
Besides BTL
Did they?
I didnt know that
I thought they said as much
Maybe someone lied to me on the internet
Inconceivable
did zato count as their 6
Nope
Who tf am I missing then
Ram, Gio, I-No, May, Faust and Anji
Oh may lol
Technically may getting the P stop on dolphin is a legacy thing but K is a new move
I would literally rather chipp be able to TOD me off 5p than get teleports back
Well while I wish characters had more movement I do not miss the days of teleport>RC>obliterate
Faust does that shit and it’s already annoying now imagine the fastest character in the game doing it
Then play xrd 
Johnnys weird air teleport tech is sick for that reason too
I would if my favourite character wasnt both unreasonably hard and not very good
Answer is fine people just downplayed him
I mean I dont think he is unplayable
But the fact that he is a bit too hard for me to be anywhere near good
He’s not broken or w/e but like good neutral average damage good conversions
And that he isnt even that good
Kind of a dealbreaker
Like I like that Strive is simplified in some regards
I just wish that didnt come at the cost of kneecapping movement
(Thats why Im hype for Project L)
(Simplified but with sick schmovement)
when your schmovement meets my ram size viego normal into a 50% bnb
Project L didnt look that high damage tbh
Anyway, guess Ill see how Ill do with Johnny
Also I hope they change Deflect Shield to stuff Guard Crush
I still dont get why Deflect Shield just loses to guard crush
The move is already mid as hell but now its also bad vs one of the few things youd think it would be good against?
Id learn Axl but I have no idea how Axl actually works
he's fairly simple to get started with
and you use normals to poke a lot more than the average character
rensen good ofc but you can't throw it at someone jumping at you
oh they simplified the input for tk bomber last patch I think too
Oh its not a DP input anymore
Wack
But yeah idk, its like he is a weird zoner who isnt one
So Im not sure what his gameplan is
Since you cant just spam Cherry Bomb
Like you use your good normals to keep the enemy out for a bit, but at some point you go in right?
is that zato joke tier like they always want to look like they're using underrated character?
Yes
and also there was a lot of reaction to zato's changes
which were harsher than what most character downsides
Tbh Im not convinced that Zato isnt as bad as people are saying
I havent seen any Zato tops yet and I also dont know of any Zato mains that havent switched characters
Jonathan Tene and Gobou are both all-in on Asuka now
Is Latif on Zato still?
PepperySplash is on ... Johnny now?
No idea on Setchi but Ive heard he is on Asuka as well
Latif is still on zato yeah
Guess theres one then
(I havent paid attention to Latif, I dont like him very much)
Keep in mind it’s also week 2 and zato is an extremely technical character
And if every zato player drops zato that doesn’t mean zato is as bad as people say either lol
Not neccessarily, but it does suggest the character isnt great
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It only suggests that if you’re coming to that predetermined conclusion
After sol got nerfed a thousand years ago many sol players dropped him
And he was still very good
guilty gear players are known for being moody with their characters besides the true ride or die players
I mean in Sols case he was infinitely more popular than Zato was pre-patch, and there were still many Sol players left
Besides Latif Im not sure any of the big-name Zato players are still playing him
The true ride or die players drop their characters too
LK dropped millia in season 2 and he was like the millia player ever
Wonder if he will switch back now
idt there was that many sols about
especially before mocchi gave everyone the wake up call
(obv he'll always be huge playrate online etc)
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@austere garnet You know you can just ping her for Shermie, she wont mind
man clearly posted that with the clear intent to confuse the whole world
Why so many C-tiers?
Is this a Modern controls tier list
This is bait or something random like music
If it's music then I'm throwing hands
yeah they should all be in D tier

no lies detected
I'm disappointed in both of you
inb4 it's just based on recent tournament results
This is your mind on results oriented thinking 
You're onto something here
Well I haven’t been paying so much attention to sf6 in the past month
But I do know gief just won a cpt
Ken is like the most everything character in the game
Idk anything else though
no matter what, idom wouldn't put JP in B
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An official video on this is kinda neat ngl
Made a Strive honesty tier list for fun
Couple characters should probably be moved up or down a tier
Gold is probably just in "A true Rapscallion" and Nago in "Pathologic liar"
Johnny could be in "honest" but TK Mist Finer exists
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Has the final roster been announced
Yeah
Some people are coping there’s a hidden 24th character but at this point it’s extremely unlikely
This is the roster
In my opinion the best base roster of an nrs game because I really really hate spec ops
No Sonya is kinda wild
She’s right there in the kameo section 
Also from him gameplay he does look very op
But ig the good thing is too master shang you really gotta learn every character in the game
Seconded especially since it is Shang
They’re great at putting the coolest characters goro in X shao kahn in 11 and now Shang in 1
No Sonya is so insane
Was she really that good in 11 that they took her out of the playable roster lmfao
I’m a big Sonya hater this is perfect 🙏
Shang was in 11 too right
Yes as dlc
I kind of miss shinnok though ngl
Why?
He was cool
Him losing to Cassie cage in story mode kinda ruined him
This is MK, so it is kool
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Less than 24 hours too mk1 
Theres a few that create a tumble state
But I thought air deal is always a soft knockdown
Don’t tumbles normally soft knockdown
Gamma is soft
Garuda is HKD actually
Frog is a soft knockdown (imagine if it wasn’t)
Really excited for the MK1 Story mode. 
Me too
Omfg, wtf was that MK1 ||ending LOL? It completely devolved into utter insanity with all those variants, and yet I was glued to the screen to see what crazy combinations they came up with.||
... ah fuck Granblue Fantasy Versus announced a new character that is making me consider playing the next game >.>
adopt some neutral in your life
He has Answers gimmick >.>
This was so funny
Johnny feels kind of comically broken in MK1
Though it is day -2 or something lmfao
But his frame data is just unbelievable
Reminds me of injustice 1 Superman
Trying to get back into Smash
I have never felt absolute fear like playing against a Mii Brawler of Akuma with the tag “MvC2Player”
Like
That’s terrifying
how about a sonic main playing at 300+ ping
Nah
Play Samus
Raz is a Belmont main true and tried
Not quite
I’m not a Belmont main
I’m a Simon main
I used to main Mega Man in SSBU, back during my Megafan phase.
But I was complete and utter trash, so I’ll try an easier character next time I get to play.
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Lmao
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That fucking LoD Ryu murdered me
Watched some MK1 videos
and uhhhhh
wow
Megan Fox cannot voice act to save her life
i feel bad for all the nitara players out there
Dw nobody is gonna play her unless she’s insanely broken
MK players hate airdash characters
She’s hype as fuck though
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Damn, stunt casting went bad? Wild.
I'm actually surprised at how bad
Tbf this is how I learned that ronda did voice work in mk11 but thankfully she did it on the most boring character in the game so it worked out
Yeah, honestly Ronda’s voice work wasn’t even that bad
Relatively speaking
I guess the funny cat lady but I hate Blazblue
So is no one going to mention the meme here
lol
No
Fair enough
Anyway, to play Hibiki, as a character ... Arakune, Hakumen or Amane probably
With Terumi and Hazama also up there
izayoi, hazuma
Hibiki
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I have no idea what that means
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Some new info on the next UNI game
Has rollback
3 new characters, including Kuon
Finishes the current story arc
Which funny cat lady
I see a roster with no izanami objectively better than normal cf
I see we've all been traumatised by the ribcage
(Also I assume Taokaka)
(Idk if Id call Kokonoe "funny")
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The trailer btw
She’s pretty funny
Her wrench has the :3 face
And she’s a whatever that Japanese word is
Trashy woman
I mean I do like her bit in the glasses of eros thing but
When I think funny I think more Taokaka
She’d be a pretty cool character if she wasn’t such a hatecrime
ragna
(The one that I play) is extremely fair and balanced
And (the one that I lose to) is toxic and degenerate
But also koko is like one of the most obnoxious annoying stupid hateful asinine characters in CF
ragna and I wanna say jin are really honest in comparison
due to some late in lifespan developments
Maybe you can say randy is honest but jimothy has some actual stupid shit
I also just don’t care for Blazblue so Taokaka is at least like
mildly entertaining
Insane robbery factor with OD 2757391 different reversals and he can combo off of some of them 19f overhead
... ok am I stupid, or did some character in uni have a big delayed red circle attack that wasnt Carmine?
I love BlazBlue >:[
Wagner?
Hers isn’t really delayed
dude I haven't played under night
but wagner makes me wanna play
Wagner makes me want to quit
Is it just the CS animation
I forgot how much I suck at this game
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I have zero patience
Here
I think that's a new one
Hyde fireball?
Like I swear Ive seen a move like that before
Like exactly like that
But I cant think of what it is
Except Carmines being sorta similar
Is UNI any fun
fair but anytime I get dunked on by a Jin I always think that there's another character that would make me even angrier while doing it



