#Gacha Chat

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mental acorn
runic ether
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sleep paralysis hong lu except its lord of hongyuan

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and he says "answer me, heishous"

timber sigil
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@idle grove @rapid bough first 10 pull of Helen's signature weapon ayy

idle grove
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ayyy nice

summer hornet
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He's such a treasure

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Same

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Only up to part 2 stage 11 though

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And NGL ||I skimmed through the Smile Time stuff. I just genuinely couldn't do it||

slow raft
wispy goblet
idle grove
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more nikke codes as of today

copper steppe
wispy goblet
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RWBY did what

copper steppe
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yeah they did that

slow raft
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ok but the dc crossover was really funny

silver osprey
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Wack anni, didn't even use Mutsumi or Sakiko's skills once

glossy latch
long tree
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Dont care still using all three cause its what god intended

old galleon
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neon is only slightly worse in those contexts, to the point it's not really noticeable except maybe in neutral raid contexts (and i'd say even that is undetermined right now)

she's still great

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also they still don't want to put rapi in s pvp (which i get, but there is an indom comp with her that's at least usable)

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anyway, obligatory reminder that tier lists are at best rough references and at worst completely useless; neon is more than good enough to be used just about anywhere, so go wild

glossy latch
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... yknow someone actually had a good point in that ZZZ and RWBY thread

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The new characters just kinda don't look like anything in particular?

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Like there's not really a design throughline I can latch onto, there's elements there and they're cohesive visually but it doesn't really sum up to anything in particular?

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Other than Roxy, which might well be why she stands out to me

glossy latch
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Anyway I guess we got obligatory "Ovven rants about ZZZ designs" out of the way

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@rapid bough Lynae summer skin is leaked btw

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Also Chisa apparently

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(Well as in its leaked were getting those, no details as of yet)

idle grove
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I don't believe in their ratings too much

old galleon
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for the criteria they have, neon's rankings are fine

question is whether you agree with the criteria, and, even if you do, how much stock you put into it

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as i've already said, she's great; people who like her, as well as people who want to optimize solo raid, were already rolling for her or already used mileage on her

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so rankings on a tier list were never gonna matter for them

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even for other people, ss is still very high (even if not sss)

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neon will undeniably see use in lots of places

wispy goblet
versed pawn
old galleon
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world top ranker has 42b damage

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their top team has 15b on its own

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(isabel/arcana/cindy/anis/crown)

summer hornet
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I'm sure I'm going to regret starting this discussion up again, but I saw like 4 different posts of it on Youtube so I finally caved and did one myself

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FYI, the contentious character slots (least favourite, overrated, warmed up to) had runner-up contenders of Tribbie, Hyacine, Castorice and Cyrene

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(I'm sure you know what they have in common)

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while the fave character runner-ups included Phainon, Aventurine, Boothill and DHIL

runic ether
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sure i'll fill this out

summer hornet
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Expected and basado on the whole

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Sparkle as fav skill animation is super surprising though

idle grove
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I saw one of these for gfl2

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seems like they'r ecatching on

summer hornet
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kinda bizarre, but I guess it's just that season again

runic ether
summer hornet
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Fair enough lol

glossy latch
idle grove
glossy latch
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Some of these I'm a little iffy on but broadly I think this is right

summer hornet
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Sampo as expected lol

glossy latch
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Look the funny con man hit the neurons just right

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I did debate him or THerta for the voice one though

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THertas voice is 👌

summer hornet
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Sampo honestly stole the show from his first appearance, I don't blame you a bit

patent swift
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wait I'm stupid

glossy latch
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No this is HSR, not Legend of Zelda nyaruhodo

patent swift
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saw it

glossy latch
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Also Dr. Ratio obviously includes his followup attack

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Its part of the skill

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Also Im surprised no one commented on the Astral Express

summer hornet
runic ether
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sparkle is far from underrated shes gotta be one of the most popular hsr characters as a whole

glossy latch
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Oh that was from a gameplay perspective

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I was still using her before her novaflare

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And before Archer

glossy latch
summer hornet
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did you ever watch Fate/Zero?

glossy latch
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Nope

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Not a Fate guy

long tree
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not a fate guy
hsr is legit just singularities but planets

pastel bear
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hsr is legit just shit from a butt that's what it is

patent swift
patent swift
summer hornet
# glossy latch Nope

I don't think I need to spoil it but for that miniscule chance, ||All Dreams End When the Dreamer Awakes||

pastel bear
summer hornet
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.........you hated Archer at one point?

pastel bear
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no I just took a while to warm up to him

summer hornet
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Ah, okay

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It was the same way for me too at first

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.....just that that was like a decade ago

patent swift
glossy latch
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Firefly as best ultimate animation is a choice™

patent swift
glossy latch
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She barely even has an ultimate animation lmao

summer hornet
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I mean it's a transformation

pastel bear
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I really only liked saber and kiritsugu and berserker (fate zero) but then I read fsn and archer brought me joy

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UBW still the 2nd best 2004

patent swift
glossy latch
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I mean yes I do like her general rider theme but her ultimate is barely even a transformation

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She just pulls out swords and her visor shifts

pastel bear
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her kit is a complete fumble and a disappointment to the entire genre she supposedly references

patent swift
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like all hsr kits

pastel bear
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should've had her ult be a transformation and then have a second ult with a rider kick

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that way you can actually see her schoolgirl outfit in combat

glossy latch
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I mean I'd have accepted her transforming when she enters combat

long tree
pastel bear
glossy latch
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Im shocked Jing Yuan isnt in "prettiest character"

old galleon
# pastel bear

might as well be about me: fate/stay night at that point

pastel bear
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well yes

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bedivere is a stronger man than me I wouldn't have left saber's side for at least a million years

long tree
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Handsome definitely

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Pretty to me has more feminine connotations

glossy latch
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I see

runic ether
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at least from the get go

pastel bear
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it's only really because I watched fate/zero first so that was my reference for "cool" characters

runic ether
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i watched zero first too

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but i walked away with gil being my fave (i did like p much everyone tho)

pastel bear
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I liked gil so much when I was 12 that my brother gave me a fgo account with only gil on it

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it's kinda like having kevin durant as your favorite basketball player when you're young

runic ether
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i imagine hes frequently reran enough where if you want him u can get him

pastel bear
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oh this was back in like 2016 when NA just launched

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or 2017

old galleon
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fgo global was 2017, yeah

pastel bear
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takumi feh was my gateway into homosexuality now I like swords and fighting for justice

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I will never forgive him

wispy goblet
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okay
Solo Raid time

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and by that I mean
time to start prepping for Solo Raid

wispy goblet
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okay

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one hour later

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I am finished prepping

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just kidding

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we are now teambuilding

rapid bough
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...what was one hour of prepping if not teambuilding

wispy goblet
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gearing and levelling

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we are now mock battling

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this one is gonna be tough

rapid bough
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ok the new weekly wuwa boss is much less painful with aemeath team since it can get a quick tune break and kill before it starts fucking teleporting around like mad

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SK/qiuyuan/galbrena is interrupted too easily and mogged by boss movement so it is not the play

rapid bough
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lord have mercy i am so shit at banyue

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ether 8 was hell

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the fact that all of his moves can animation cancel themselves and lose tons of damage just does not compute in my brain

wispy goblet
old galleon
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i mean, if they insist on giving us fire week again

summer hornet
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Finished Star Anis part 2 and chapter 20 of the main story

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||went through the full album/EP for T.T. Star and… honestly, I liked each sequential song more than the last. They put a ton of effort in and it shows, but Clickbait and Accelerate just did better for me than All Eyes on Me. Seeing Mustang be Hanson again almost broke my heart though, in a good way||

As for ch20 ||I now understand why Argor said Dorothy is complicated. I was ready to start dropping elbows on Johan but instead he actually grew on me and Dorothy dropped lol||

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||The items around the chapter 20 map helped illustrate his backstory pretty effectively too. He was “New Hope”, a rising star among commanders, but after a failed important operation and a falling-out with an incompetent/conniving executive he cut ties with the Ark for good. If I had to guess||

rapid bough
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||johan's brief bit as an antagonist took me a bit to get past since he does literally just leave the commander for dead... but he really has been on goat watch ever since. the eden spear side story and goddess fall event do a lot for him as well so you don't even know the half of it. also his EN VA is fucking fantastic||

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||and re: doro's complexity... all i can say is that the most recent story chapter (46) is a payoff for 3 years of buildup of her storyline and it is soooooooooooo fucking good||

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some tough choices made here

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prettiest was between ade and flora, fav elysion between rapi and arcana, and i thought about putting neon for missilis but didn't since that still kinda strikes me as a technicality lol

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also liveryn was not an option but i'd put her over crow for dislike

versed pawn
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rapid bough
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(i love every second of it)

rapid bough
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also putting nicole as my least favorite agent was rough. i love her design (she's the reason i got into the game lol) and obv she's basically evergreen in terms of combat meta, but her personality is by far the most grating to me among the agent cast. couldn't think of any other agent that annoys me like she does so sadly she gets the ignoble placement

summer hornet
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Laplace and Quency fought over the Missilis slot

rapid bough
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based, i was between quency and naga once i decided i didn't want to put neon there

summer hornet
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Cinderella and Anis were both runner-ups for prettiest

rapid bough
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i thought about putting cindy under prettiest for the "beautiful" meme but she had enough squares on my grid already lol

summer hornet
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She is beautiful lol- Ade is just really, really refined

rapid bough
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dolla under "coolest" is a neat pick, she do be aura farming

summer hornet
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Every time I see Dolla I think of Bazett lol, so that plays a role too

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Terrible quality gif but she's another badass suits lady

rapid bough
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can't go wrong with women in suits

summer hornet
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Drake is actually pretty funny too, come to think

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Neon isn't outright funny as much as she makes me chuckle when ragebaiting antagonists

rapid bough
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you haven't seen drake's greatest moments yet

old galleon
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how do you even get that grids site to work

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clicking on the options does nothing

rapid bough
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click and drag?

old galleon
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what am i supposed to be dragging

rapid bough
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options from the list on the left to the boxes of the grid on the right

old galleon
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yeah the options are just thumbnailes of different games

rapid bough
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try searching by clicking in this box

old galleon
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yeah i found the problem

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i was trying to do one for azur lane and there is none

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as in, the grid template exists but the list of characters doesn

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t

rapid bough
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rip

old galleon
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tbf there are almost 800 ships

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but still

rapid bough
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it's funny that they made a grid template but don't have a list to populate it

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guess whoever was using the grid probably just added custom images as necessary

timber sigil
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I love everyone on the roster but I def have favourites

rapid bough
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easy florence or vepley for me

rapid bough
timber sigil
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daiyan supremacy

rapid bough
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not surprised at all to see daiyan occupying half of your spots

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damn you really don't like klukai huh lol

timber sigil
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compared to the rest of the roster

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like if I had to pic k1

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it'd be Klukai to take the spot

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don't get me wrong her kit is great and all

rapid bough
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i mean i also put her in overrated

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surprised to see her in discard tho

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v6 klukai been carrying our asses since release

timber sigil
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oh wait discard means something else?

rapid bough
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ullrid a good pick for underrated

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i mean i interpreted it as "doll i'd remove from the game/get off my roster" or similar

timber sigil
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100% Ullrid is mega underrated

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ohhh

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errr

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lemme rework this lmao

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there we go

rapid bough
timber sigil
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real shit

silver osprey
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Erm

slow raft
mental acorn
runic ether
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gotta be capstone ryo... already tho? crazy

summer hornet
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I mean it's about time, right? Cause we already got an Intervallo and Bokgak

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*2 bokgaks

runic ether
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ig the timing does make sense

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more or less half way through season 7

mental acorn
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I was kind of expecting them to finish with the other house of spiders ids first

long tree
glossy latch
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Oh hey, 3 more pulls

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Time to try for Iuno again

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Nope 😔

runic ether
silver osprey
glossy latch
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Oh I think I have Silver Wolf built now

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... huh

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That was easier than expected

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I guess I can finish leveling her skills then

rapid bough
glossy latch
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Finish leveling them

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I have all her major traces and most of the minor traces leveled up but the last couple levels take so many resources I figured Id just do the 3 times drop event first

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Smh

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I am being unusually reasonable with her for once

timber sigil
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Dushy got that elite ball knowledge

long tree
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be NtE
friendliest gacha system on the market bar limbus
open world gta like where you can just dick around if you get bored
hire vtubers for marketing
use gen Ai
don't disclose it
lie about it
even to those you hire to advertise
dubismile never seen a game take a shotgun to their own leg this quick that isn't like the parent company being a dick or just EoS

old galleon
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how to speedrun eos without announcing eos before launch?

glossy latch
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Wait what did they use ai for?

long tree
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A lot of art

glossy latch
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Ingame or promo?

long tree
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In game

glossy latch
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Ah

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Cant even blame the marketing agency

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RIP

old galleon
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this one was pretty straightforward

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i also did wise calamity dhaat but i could not get it to work the way i wanted it to

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i still cleared it but i'm not happy with it

glossy latch
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1% off from 260% energy regen on Mornye 😔

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Low DEF too

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Im gonna have to grind echoes still once Im done with her skills

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Oh Im supposed to use a DEF 4-cost

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That makes sense

idle grove
glossy latch
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Its Promeia first half, right?

runic ether
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of course

versed pawn
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I gotta say czn made some stellar changes since I put it off

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For how to build and farm decks for your characters

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And New characters have more then one build now which is nice too

glossy latch
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I wonder how stupid of an idea it would be to try and pull Promeia early before getting Silly OgreThink

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Ah wait no I want his weapon too

rapid bough
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time to test some solo raid

old galleon
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i'll be doing that later tonight

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didn't get neon with freebies so i have a decision to make whether i use mileage or not

rapid bough
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lol i watched sky's video and saw his team tank half of the big double slash AoE at the end and thought "maybe i can do that!" and the first half instagibbed both isabel and anis... guess not, just gotta cover the whole thing

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might've been a diff with timing on the crown shield but CBA to work it out, it's not a huge difference in cover time

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just realized my maid mast's skills were sitting at 4/4/4 despite using her all this time across so much content icant

old galleon
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mine are only 7/7/7

runic ether
wispy goblet
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for free?

old galleon
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signal alt when

rapid bough
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decided to get ambitious with scarlet/trina and was pleasantly surprised the damage difference wasn't actually huge, this frees up nayuta and RRH so i don't need to do a miranda team which is great since miranda team was giving me a fucking aneurysm on this boss, somehow ein was stealing the buff from ada even when ada was bursting

wispy goblet
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already down from 5.25% last night

toxic cloud
wispy goblet
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ZZZ servers up
right after my Nikke dailies

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it's time

digital marlin
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fuck it

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i blame khaios

rapid bough
rapid bough
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i am almost certain with perfectly optimal play i can get well over 6b with cindy team, i was just BARELY short of a final cindy burst

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but unless i'm at risk of getting knocked out of the top 3% by tomorrow morning i won't bother

wispy goblet
rapid bough
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30 pulls baybeeeeeeeee

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well that made my decision about lucia's wengine easier (60 or so pulls later)

old galleon
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i got a bit over 7b and i don't care enough to try to optimize this much more; i don't have enough mats for all of neon/isabel/everyone else (neon is the priority)

wispy goblet
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story time

rapid bough
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i will never understand how you just jump right into the story at 11pm lol

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oh right, yoink

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oh this is a very neat addition

wispy goblet
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STORY NON-SPOILERS
||Belle horny on main again||

rapid bough
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||i assume that's referring to remielle, in which case... is she wrong tho?||

wispy goblet
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||Fairy confirmed thinks Zhao is a "baddie"||

glossy latch
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Welp, didnt pull Promeia early enough to justify pulling for her

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Guess I have to wait before I can pull more 😔

rapid bough
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the sfx on promeia's "perfect parry" with her EX special is super satisfying

wispy goblet
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STORY NON-SPOILER
||ayo Hailey keep that shit on the down-low||

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||uh oh chat||

wispy goblet
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STORY SPOILERS
||Ahh, so she's just that old.||

runic ether
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uhh did anyone have lucia wengine vs m1 calc on hand

wispy goblet
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not on-hand on-hand

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you could check an okMuzzy or Rivyn video guide
they have calcs consistently

runic ether
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ugh but i didnt wanna search smh

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flipping a coin

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m1 it is

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yoink

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75 pulls... not bad not great

rapid bough
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i always find the w1 vs m1 debate for any given character where the two are close to kinda miss the point

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if it's close or even if m1 is slightly better, i still go w1 every time because the rate of getting that is significantly better lol

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plus sometimes sigs are splashable to other characters in ways that character dupes can't be

wispy goblet
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SUPER OMEGA HYPER SPOILERS
||so it's getting thick now||

wispy goblet
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Story chapter took me about three hours
with some meandering and live-blogging
tried to see all the dialogue and little things

silver osprey
versed pawn
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why is CZN ost so short PGR_AlphaCry

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all them 1:30 tracks

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some need to be longer

silver osprey
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Oh no Misg fell for the drunk demon lady as well

mental acorn
runic ether
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as in the demon lady

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ik who misg is

silver osprey
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The guy who makes limbus art

runic ether
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ik who misg is

silver osprey
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Oh I read that the other way around

summer hornet
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Who even is this

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Is this a trend or something

slow raft
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A game thats coming out at some point in the future

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The trailer (and presumably the game) heavily features this girl and people are very normal about her

summer hornet
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Lmao

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I see

versed pawn
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aioobahn is pretty busy lately i guess

runic ether
mental acorn
summer hornet
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Glad she's still taking names

rapid bough
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tribe tower 830
mirror container

it's joever

old galleon
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afterglow intensifies

rapid bough
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also nikke hard event ||that ending seemed kinda... phoned in?

anis retiring + prika/mint forming their own group being summarized rather than an interaction we see for ourselves seems like such a waste. plus no further housekeeping with mustang/hanson or mrs. miss? feel like there was a lot left on the table here and that's just the two major examples||

old galleon
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||at least it gives them room to work with for future events||

old galleon
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||surely we get mint and prika event||

rapid bough
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it was different from anomaly MC since it had a permanent core so damage was a lot higher, i bursted it down almost entirely before its slipper phase

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very fortunate for my tower progression to reach these floors right as anis/neon release lol

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i cleared mother whale at 780 and now mirror container at 830 pretty easily all thanks to anis

rapid bough
wispy goblet
old galleon
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||the story arc of the ark's star is long, but it bends toward closure||

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||or something like that||

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||wasn't what i was expecting but i was fine with it||

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||now to start speculating on what fresh hell will come of the anni event in 5 months||

wispy goblet
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||The two easy predictions are Hansel and Gretel, or two of the Four Beasts, probably Behemoth and Leviathan.||

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unrelatedly
2.8 story was very enjoyable

old galleon
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this ended up being super easy

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not complaining

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and the challenge fight is full of sword and katana party bonus

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literally a "how many times do we gotta teach you this lesson" fight unless it has any particularly dumb gimmicks

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the fruit of my labor

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ez

chrome pilot
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Does anyone know what's the deal with the AI use allegation is Neverness to ever?

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Is it actually genai imgs or people misunderstanding generated texture or procedural stuff.

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People keep talking over another and not showing any clips or screenshots.

old galleon
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my understanding is that they claimed no gen ai was used in game, even to people they had paid to advertise it

they were quickly alleged to have used obvious gen ai

i don't know much beyond that or if the allegations are true

chrome pilot
old galleon
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one of the clips i saw was of an in-game movie or ad or something showing on an in-game tv

chrome pilot
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Could you send me the clip.

old galleon
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i dont' have it on me, it's something i saw when scrolling a couple days ago

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i can try to dig it up

chrome pilot
old galleon
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if it takes me a while and i find it i'l ping you

chrome pilot
wispy goblet
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It became a decently big subject in one of the communities I'm in
Lemme do some light digging

old galleon
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@chrome pilotthis is the one i saw

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you be the judge

wispy goblet
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Another allegetion I have heard (although this one hasn't blown up)
is apparently this is the same dev team that got caught stealing assets from a hoyo game
this is hearsay on my part

sharp swan
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rapid bough
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god damn it's about time it got an official preview/teaser lol

sharp swan
rapid bough
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guess i should watch edgerunners between now and the collab release

summer hornet
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It's a good show

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(Make sure you've got water or tissues on hand tho)

pastel bear
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you should watch a better anime instead

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I recommend space runaway ideon

summer hornet
pastel bear
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there is no thumbs up you're going to DIE

summer hornet
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Lmfao

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Deflected

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Unrelatedly

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I got up to stage 9-45 in Limbus Company

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And have suffered my first loss since... 9-28, I believe

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Canto 9 fights are no joke though

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︀︀#Rebecca

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summer hornet
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Every fight in Act 3 ||feels like at least a half hour of strategy lol. Red coins on red coins, tons of unique status effects, and a LOT of staying out of the insanely tough NPCs' way||

lusty egret
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Coming Soon: Story Event "Mobile Suit Gundam Thunderbolt: Bandit Flower"!
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︀︀▼ Event Bonus
︀︀Clearing stages with units eligible for event bonuses in your formation offers benefits such as increasing the number of items that you can earn from the event.
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︀︀In this event, the units concerned are mainly those with the "Mobile Suit Gundam Thunderbolt" and "Mobile Suit Gundam" Series.
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It's that time of the year

runic ether
runic ether
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oops

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||i once saw valencina roll a 102 on her evade on floor 14||

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anyways slight tip for 9-45 if you havent cleared

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||dont forget to go for the heart||

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nah but fr

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||the trick is really to set verg up and really divert as much into you as you can while letting him eat up as many good clashes in his favor||

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||kodya is amazing for this and while w corp heath and cockcliff are both great, they sometimes enable themselves with a ton of unbreakables and get nuked by the excision coins||

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||dieci rodya is insane here for her survival but you dont care. you'll burn through those modules freely. go for the damage and sinking app||

summer hornet
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I used Knight of Despair and Ricardo the first time

runic ether
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||and as for heath, middle heath is strong yeah, but wild hunt's application is goated||

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||the emperor's shield passive is really not a fan of status app||\

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||and, if you let wild hunt build up his passive, he can end up reanimating rodya near the end||

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in short

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||use high status application or fast appliers, and prepare for a long fight. eat bad clashes to let vergilius take the more dangerous clashes, and then when he pops his ego, always take the excision coins for him||

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||wild hunt is great at keeping rodya in the game and kodya with her positive sp form is the way to go for better defensive clashes, but totally dip into her negative sp form near the end to push the last bits of damage. dont be afraid to unequip all ego in case you are afraid of corrosion pushing verg to the edge and causing a game over||

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basically

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||its a lesson from the past fights so far with needing to balance out fighting with just 2 sinners and knowing ball with excision coins like a certain sinclair.
needing to balance out the way for vespa and ezra's great clashing while knowing when and how to let them eat shit from matthias when your own clashing would get you killed
and guiding vergilius to finish a fight faster like when you fought valencina||

runic ether
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||seven heath and kurokumo heath both have pretty good application. but their overall lower clashing can sometimes cause them to eat shit too fast. i would unequip all ego if you use either.
heathcardo has damn great clashing and fights back but his best clashing skill is unbreakable which means you can end up having turns where your only option is to let the emperor nuke you.
dieci rodya as mentioned is fucking invincible but she can end up not mattering cus of it
liu rodya has good app but poor clashing. same deal as heath's other ids in that sense and then both ring rodya and princess rodya can do a ton of work here||

rapid bough
runic ether
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holy shit this refraction ricardo fight is fucking peak

vernal snow
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i still need to beat rufo in less than 24 turns

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such a fuuuuuuuuun boss

sharp swan
patent swift
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No way ggst crossover

pastel bear
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the lone and level sands stretch far away

runic ether
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i tried butterfly and deluge for a lil bit but i realized it was gonna just be better to furioso her

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and it was

timber sigil
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@idle grove @rapid bough as expected Klook has a large majority

old galleon
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so this fight fucking sucks

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aldo ns and gariyu are probably my most hated aac fights

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incidentally, those two are two of the last ones i hadn't done yet

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for aldo, he has some gimmicks

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first one is he changes elemental weakness and immunity depending on your frontline

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second one is he steals your af bar to do his own af at certain points

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then there's the point threshold

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380 million

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doesn't sound like a lot considering some of the ones i've posted in here with several billion

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buuuuut his party bonus requirements are awful

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dragon+guiding light

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guiding light consists of exactly two characters in teh entire game (aldo and cyrus, for their silly chrono trigger x slash reference)

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dragon has a few more characters, but they are very annoying to make work cohesively in this fight, esp with all the damage aldo shits out

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sooooo after trying cyrus' new stellar awakening in this fight and still not working, i finally caved and went with a wind team

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ofc this means no party bonus, which makes getting to 380 million a lot harder

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even with this team it took me a lot of runs

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gariyu aac still isn't happening btw

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the only party bonus trait for that one is water, my water units are not up to the task of dealing with all the damage gariyu shits out

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and neither is the above team i just made work in the aldo fight

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(maybe)

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iirc point threshold on it is like 234 millino

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i def have the damage

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but i need to survive

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hm

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i guess i can give it a try but i'm not expecting much

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yeah no

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zero chance

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he nulls wind

glossy latch
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Free Rebecca huh

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I guess that gives me another potential havoc team

old galleon
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as usual, heavenly tsukuyomi can get fucked

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at least this one was pretty straightforward

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bonuses this time are a generic eastern requirement and specific ones for lands of mi, shin, and ro

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so they're just telling you to use the not!japanese characters

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point threshold on this one is 356m, so this is way overkill, but fuck heavenly tsukuyomi

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now that i think about it, garulea really went all in on the japanese influences, to the exclusion of most else after a while

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you got some chinese influence with characters like lingli especially, but "eastern" really did come to mean "japanese" for this

sharp swan
late canopy
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Not just the same studio

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Same director too

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The man himself

glossy latch
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Guess who forgot to level his Pulchras skills nyaruhodo

wispy goblet
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Is she at least M6?

glossy latch
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(I do have the core skill maxed out but I guess I just never finished leveling the base skills)

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Ye

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Oh I also just dont have enough hamster cage passes

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So its not just me being forgetful nyaruhodo

chrome pilot
patent swift
silver osprey
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Chat where'd my ricardo go

vernal snow
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no more gambling

silver osprey
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I was planning on buying Middleclair and pulling Ricardocliff

rapid bough
glossy latch
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She was leaked as havoc

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But its not 100% confirmed

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Though I would be very shocked if she wasnt havoc

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Just character-wise

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Ok I think my Mornyes echoes are now good enough that I dont have to bother

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Just need to wait for weekly resets to get hecate mats now

rapid bough
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was anything more about her leaked? like role (support/main DPS/sub DPS/etc)?

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not that my hopes are high for her viability since she's free, but considering i don't have a full roster and my only havoc unit is rover, i'll take anything i can get lol

glossy latch
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No

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But judging by how PGR did it, the two likely work best in the same team, in which case I expect Rebecca to be the DPS

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And idk, we got Xiangli Yao for free and he was very viable back then

patent swift
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My friends are play nte icant

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I wanna yell at these guys but I'm too lazy

glossy latch
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I wonder how Lucy plays

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Shes the one Im more interested in

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... even though she'd be my fourth Spectro carry lmao

patent swift
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Did wuwa ever get over the waifu slop allegations

glossy latch
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Depends on what you mean by that

long tree
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Which tbh fair game knows what it's audience wants

rapid bough
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...did it? i feel like the last super waifu-coded character was cantarella a year or so ago

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like obviously the majority of characters are still female if that's what you mean by "waifu slop"

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but i feel like it took a detour into toying with ML harem-y stuff with rover, hence the joke name "gathering wives"

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but it hasn't really struck me that way in a hot minute

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the fanservice seems dialed down anyway, no lahai roi character so far comes even close to cantarella breasting boobily lol

glossy latch
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Hence why I asked what you mean by that

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The majority of the characters are still female

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And theyre all still conventionally attractive

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But they also are all characters who have more than just being attractive to them

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So, eh?

patent swift
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Ahh

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Might try it for cyberpunk idk

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Unrelated

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How long would reading the good parts of fgo take

old galleon
patent swift
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Ok but like

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In hours

slow raft
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I mean lb 6 and 7 alone are like

old galleon
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idk, 50+ at least

slow raft
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Giant chunks

old galleon
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and i might be lowballing it

slow raft
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Lb6 has about 600k words

patent swift
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50+ is less than I thought there's no way its that little

slow raft
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Thats longer than all 3 lord of the rings books

patent swift
slow raft
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And while not every lb is that long

patent swift
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Its fucking WHAT

old galleon
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well part of it is how fast you read

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i read in games relatively quickly, you might be slower

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lb6 is very, very long yes

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it's also deep into the game

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do we need to post the paper image

slow raft
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Lb6 is about 2-3 times as long as a regular lb from memory

patent swift
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I read fast

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Also what's an lb

slow raft
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Lost belt

patent swift
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Because I'm not playing fgo my only context is gonna be the stories

old galleon
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lost belts are part of the second main story arc of the game

patent swift
old galleon
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the first one is singularities

slow raft
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First chapter of fgo had you dealing with singularities, second one is lost belts and third is [redacted]

manic jayBOT
old galleon
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anyway

patent swift
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What is that

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And why is he dressed like he broke in

old galleon
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that is a physical representation of how long the lb6 script is : ^)

patent swift
slow raft
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Idk how accurate this is but you can see the rough growth

runic ether
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damn what happened after babylonia

slow raft
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Solomon was the finale of act 1

old galleon
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final part of act 1

patent swift
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OLYMPUS???

old galleon
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lots of battles, less hard story content

slow raft
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Up until lost belt prolouge is sidestories

old galleon
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and yes, olympus is a thing

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lb 5.2

slow raft
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Some of them are good, some of them are agartha

old galleon
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then in that chart, you see lb6 is split into 3

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and each one is quite large

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well, 3's shorter than the other two by a noticeable amount but still decent

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anyway, the "good" parts of fgo depend on your tastes and what you're into

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but generally speaking, you'll probably see people claim camelot/babylon are the strongest parts of part 1

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and lb6/7 as the strongest parts of part 2

slow raft
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Yeah id say up to and including america are quite weak overall

old galleon
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the part 1 stories are significantly shorter than lb6/7, on the whole

slow raft
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You could probably skip it all except for fuyuki and not lose much

old galleon
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i said 50 hours, but that's definitely lowballing it

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also if you're into greek mythology you might enjoy the atlantis/olympus ones too

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just know that there are definitely some liberties taken

idle grove
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is there a vn reader for fgo to read each chapter like there are for other gachas

patent swift
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Its fate

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Of course there is

old galleon
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lemme dig

idle grove
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there you go

pastel bear
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I will say it loses a lot without the presentation

old galleon
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i don't think it's completely caught up but that should work for parts 1 and 2 at least

runic ether
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maybe reading this after reading wonder lab fully

wide bison
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Don't go there

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that's hell you're walking into

pastel bear
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🤪

wide bison
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I just wouldn't read FGO as it's long

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Nothing about the quality i'm just not ready for something that long

old galleon
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understandable

pastel bear
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not like FGO has anything worth reading except for some of the later lostbelts

wide bison
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eh i'm sure it has a good story

pastel bear
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oh and britain

wide bison
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i've gone through objectively worse franchises

pastel bear
runic ether
pastel bear
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FGO encounters are awful and actively anti-F2P at some points

runic ether
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as in... i dont know how f2p i could be to clear all content

pastel bear
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genuinely not worth playing

slow raft
old galleon
slow raft
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It is doable entirely without pulling but the difficulty shoots up significantly, esp in the later lostbelts

old galleon
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i'm a very low spender but i'm also a launch player

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for someone new...

patent swift
old galleon
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well tehre is a special summon ticket for a 5* from a pool, some of those are decent to start with

pastel bear
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F2P/gachaless in late FGO is more of a challenge run than a legitimate and supported experience

old galleon
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evocation shop system will add a ton of welfares

pastel bear
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which is the worst part

old galleon
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the main issue is you'd be missing some very nice servants to run double systems with

slow raft
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Fwiw, arts is easy to substitute since the pathetic lesbian exists

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Is she in the friend point pool?

old galleon
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i do think ryuki is exaggerating a little on it being "anti-f2p", but some fights deep into the game can be a bit annoying

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xu fu? yes

pastel bear
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ryuki

patent swift
slow raft
# old galleon xu fu? yes

Yeah so you could do friend castoria + xu fu and then whatever arts dps you can get your hands on and that should carry you all the way through to atleast götterdämmerung

slow raft
runic ether
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hm

old galleon
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down horrifically

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also her summer alt is this year

runic ether
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i shall keep my comment to myself

pastel bear
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grinding mats to upgrade skills is also a pain

runic ether
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theres no auto farm right

slow raft
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Yea

runic ether
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so u just have to

old galleon
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no auto farm supported in game

runic ether
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actually play the game

old galleon
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youc an set up a macro

slow raft
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Or

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As everyone else does it

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Just use a 3rd party app

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:)

old galleon
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but it's not like sweeping automatically like some games have

old galleon
slow raft
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I think its even against tos but iirc you usually dont get caught

pastel bear
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I hope you like the game's combat system

runic ether
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yeah even if they have a good story...

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i think im okay for sure

pastel bear
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yeah limbus company's gameplay is just an objective improvement over FGO's formula

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and it's just watered down ruina

runic ether
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thats because ruina is the greatest game maybe ever clearly

slow raft
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It is certainly my favourite game ive ever played so

summer hornet
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True Firepower! That's who she is!

「GODDESS OF VICTORY」: NIKKE 3.5th Anniversary—the BGM for the new Overspec Nikke, Neon: Vision Eye, is here: TRUE FIREPOWER!

🎧 TRUE FIREPOWER
Composer – NieN
Lyrics – N.U.
Vocal – B.A. Wheeler
Arranger – NieN
Guitar – NieN
Mastering – Cosmograph


【Neon:Version Eye】
Neon, now...

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It's giving Guilty Gear

rapid bough
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it's a certified banger

summer hornet
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Gods why did they make the Elation Path in HSR

summer hornet
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And it's because HSR made an entire extra character class and named all its gimmicks after memes

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Including, "Certified Banger"

rapid bough
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cursed

wide bison
summer hornet
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Certified Banger, Punchline, Aha Instant

summer hornet
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Remembrance worked so well they wanna do it again

wide bison
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I'm just using this time to go

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all in on Feixiao and Firefly

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My break team is crazy right now

summer hornet
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Kinda same lmao

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Finally finished getting SAM to e2

wide bison
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I've got E2 FF, Dahlia, and only E1 Fugue

summer hornet
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I don't have any eidolons on the supports though

wide bison
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I'll maybe get Phainon LC for her later but that's for again, later

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With how cracked my break team is I can 0 cycle the king in AA

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It goes in the square hole

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Elation gimmick boss?

summer hornet
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I have been unable to clear this AA pensivecowboybread

wide bison
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That's right

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It goes in the square hole

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I need to just get E2 Feixiao to go with my E2 Robin

summer hornet
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My break team is fine, same for Phainon, but my third deep developed team is Garcher with Sparkle

wide bison
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Archer doesn't need investment so he's just sitting there for me

summer hornet
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I went E2S1 for him

wide bison
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i wanna try and get E2 saber

summer hornet
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I also got e1 Sparkle and e1 Silver Wolf

Was gonna go E3 for the extra skill levels (and a lack of interest in other characters), but them rumors of ||SP Aventurine and Fate collab P2|| started dropping

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Saber seems like she's in a really awkward spot right now

wide bison
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she'll get support soon

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trust

summer hornet
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If they could do it for Sparkle they can do it for Saber, surely

glossy latch
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Ironically enough Elation doesnt have that issue

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Because the free lightcone is good lmao

old galleon
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they'll add a new mechanic called rank-up quests where you can do the quest and she'll evolve into lord logres

long tree
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Going back to the fgo conversation it is crazy to me how the game doesnt have an auto or skip function when it's skill level up material requirements are so large

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Like what do you mean i need 150 of an item each 3 minute run has a 30% chance of getting

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What am I playing gbf?!

old galleon
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at least gbf has pro skips and you can join pub raids, do minimums for blue chest, and dip

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not gonna pretend gbf is the paragon of efficient gaming but they've at least made some things a bit more manageable

summer hornet
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I don't miss GBF, per se

old galleon
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dont' blame you

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it's still extremely grindy

summer hornet
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I still have fond memories though

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I don't regret getting the Valentine's cards for Lecia and Cassius

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I'd probably put them a tier below Arknights in terms of consistent event story quality

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Maybe 1.5 tiers below

silver osprey
mental acorn
summer hornet
rapid bough
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finished zzz story, verdict: quite good

||the overall story was moderately interesting though the last part was obviously by far the best. the remielle exposition dump near the end was a bit heavyhanded but much-needed tbh, and i like the introduction of a faction war of sorts between remielle and sunbringer, though i'd bet money the "assassination" isn't what it seems and that all sides are "good" and we all end up teaming up against whatever dumb bullshit TOPS is up to by the end of the roscaelifer story. speaking of which, youkai was sorta namedropped during the story and then literally nothing came of it? that was odd and probably the most prominent hanging thread||

||cissia continues to be more involved and a much better character than i though she ever would be. also her VA absolutely nails her performance. very strong showing from the girl i figured would be one-patch-and-done
sbilly was fun but his story felt kinda phoned in... he just upgraded because reasons, dude felt like he was in this patch to meet a male character quota more than anyone else. also him leaving his past behind was just given one throwaway hamfisted line when we don't know anything about it really so it had no real meaning? if i were a billy fan i'd be pretty disappointed on the story front, though the combat was fun
promeia's gap moe may actually rival caesar's and her gameplay is so satisfying even if it's pretty simple||

rapid bough
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consider yourself... shocked okbuddy

wispy goblet
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Nikke Co-Ops up

wispy goblet
# rapid bough finished zzz story, verdict: quite good ||the overall story was moderately inte...

||If Billy, Cissia, and Promeia become the new core friend group throughout Season 3, I think there's a lot of potential fun in their dynamics. Also the rest of the Cunning Hares are almost certainly in Roscaelifer, so we'll have that touchpoint being consistent.||

||I'm so glad I pulled Cissia. She's so fun in gameplay and as a character, and I'm glad we're likely to get more of her moving into Season 3.||

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by the way
people smelling the 3.1 agents will be Remielle and Sigrid
based on characters that currently have IDs in the beta

runic ether
wispy goblet
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interesting thought
the "Notorious" Sweeper we fight in story
doesn't look like it has any scheduled DA appearances

rapid bough
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||seems like for 3.x we will literally just have the cunning hares again, hopefully ft. cissia as an honorary member... though it's hard to say how promeia will factor in or be part of the gang consistently given everything she has going on, from her actual character ("don't trust krampus or me") to her job||

rapid bough
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so leaks were half right (they had lucy as spectro but rebecca as havoc)

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also double pistol units, static mist/phasic homogenizer stocks through the roof

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i have like 50 standard pulls banked until i get the 10 limited weapon pulls from anni to throw at hiyuki's weapon to know whether i go for a second EoG for her or static mist for lynae

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urge to just go for static mist is stronger than ever

wispy goblet
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ZZZ EVENT SPOILERS
||she knows||
||uh oh||

rapid bough
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probably the only expert S rank i will manage, did it for love of the game

rapid bough
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idk how wuwa normally does drip releases but the fact they released both rebecca and lucy and no lucilla is curious, says to me that lucilla isn't next patch

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which is good for my pulls so i ain't even mad

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should be able to go for lucy without regret and satisfy my collector urges

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i assume it's too much to hope for that rebecca's signature weapon will be free as well?

glossy latch
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But hm

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Electro Rebecca is surprising

glossy latch
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But hey, you got phasic homogeniser

rapid bough
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i do, but i use it on galbrena atm and would rather not have to switch weapons around

glossy latch
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Easy solution

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Get another one

rapid bough
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i will eventually but i only have so many standard pulls

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and i'm currently eyeing up a second EoG for hiyuki

glossy latch
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Have you considered just hitting?

rapid bough
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yes actually, that is exactly my consideration for holding out on the 10 weapon pulls to throw at hiyuki's weapon, hoping i hit early lol

glossy latch
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Fair

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Anyway ... no havoc dps after all is not quite ideal for me

rapid bough
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i hope we learn more about lucilla before the patch ends, gonna have to decide whether i spring for chisa for hiyuki, phrolova+sig, or just save for collab

glossy latch
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She's most likely the third slot in the Hiyuki team, but idk if she'll be a bigger upgrade than Chisa

rapid bough
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well i want lucilla for sure, just a matter of planning for when she releases

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if she'll be next patch then there's no way i can pull for anything in the second half this patch

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if she's 3.5 then i'd feel more comfortable doing so

glossy latch
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Ah

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I am gonna say, she's almost certainly this patch

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But fair

wispy goblet
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did the first stage of the new ZZZ event
not exactly my cup of tea
but I think I see the appeal

old galleon
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took a significantly underleveled dzp (115) into 13-4 hard boss fight and she ended up surviving

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viva la anti air

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(on lethal)

long tree
silver osprey
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https://youtube.com/shorts/mGJzV6ArYpg?si=viXUZD9AMKtoOUIw @slow raft @runic ether @mental acorn

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||Muga Arayashu is crazy||

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She just deletes your own nursefathers

summer hornet
astral drift
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wanted kama but couldn't stop rolling

summer hornet
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Jfc lmao

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Congrats on your tanime np levels regardless

slow raft
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alright so youre saying i should probably finish the canto

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im finishing the new endfield story today so i can actually do the event (that im way to late for anyways oops) and tomorrow ill see about canto 9

wispy goblet
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@rapid bough you will not like hearing this
Testing suggests Norma is going to outcompete Dialyn for Evelyn

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i honestly don't pay attention at all to beta testing this early on, they adjust numbers 5 billion times before release

wispy goblet
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Hoping we get another beta drop tonight

silver osprey
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Oh when Arayashu kills the nursefathers she copies their attacks

mental acorn
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i just saw a comment about that

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it's so fucking cool

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and then she does all 5 in the last clip

silver osprey
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They cooked so hard with this ID

runic ether
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our first id with mang too

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i see those rings

silver osprey
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Wait wtf

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Where

runic ether
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you can see it very closely when she does her attacks mimicking the nursefathers

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wrong image

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def meant to share this

rapid bough
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damn i can probably all perfect this and i'm tempted to put respect on the king's name

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side note since this song has pernelle as the singer, anyone see the big mental breakdown she had on twitter? honestly really sad

rapid bough
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tempted to set a new goal to FC all the theme songs...

i can probably get rising higher (rapi), the redhood (...), satellites (dorothy), unbreakable sphere (mermaid). already have unbreakable (cindy) and clarion call (crown)

fatal maid (velvet) and jinx player (rouge) utterly destroy me tho

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^ realized i actually already FC'd rising higher, satellites (on hard actually), and unbreakable sphere. just got red hood and be my star (which i'm calling anis's theme here over all eyes on me) done

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got archenemy (arcana) too

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but fatal maid and jinx player FCs are definitely out of my reach on normal

wispy goblet
wispy goblet
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underskilled
and suboptimal discs
but crossed the finish line

wispy goblet
old galleon
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singer has mental breakdown in public
GRRR SHE SAID NIKKE GOES AGAINST HER VALUES

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(yes, some people took what was a throwaway line in comparison to the rest of it and hyperfixated on it)

glossy latch
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HSR leaks but @rapid bough Lupa is such a good design HSR is ripping it off lmao

slow raft
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I assume lupa is the government mandated "fights with a flag gacha unit" for wuwa then?

digital marlin
slow raft
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Ah the classic, you gotta have one of those

glossy latch
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Yes but also a wolf gladiator

digital marlin
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which makes her Arena mandated

slow raft
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I honestly cant see wolf in either of those pictures but that might be a skill issue on my part

glossy latch
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Oop forgor to turn off ping, sorry

slow raft
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Oh you were judt saying thats her i thought you meant that was one of the things they ripped off

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Also np

glossy latch
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Oooh no no, thats Lupa specifically yeah

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I wonder how long itll take

slow raft
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How long what will take

glossy latch
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:)

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In the interest of actually having someone find it, there's a little change I made besides the red circles

wispy goblet
slow raft
glossy latch
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Damn

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Cant believe Guy would do me like that

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Actually thats a lie I can totally believe it

slow raft
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Was about to say that you do not know me very well then

runic ether
glossy latch
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Oh no its not very hidden I just assumed no one looked for it

slow raft
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I do a sweep on instinct for any picture with the red circles

rapid bough
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i love disk RNG, burned a tuning calibrator and 2 cores on this to get AM main + AP and ATK% subs and ofc rolled shit defense for the other two lines and got upgrades on both instead of anything else useful

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at least the other 2 rolls went into AP instead of ATK%

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on second thought i should've rolled this as a phaethon's melody disk instead of a chained disk for slightly more splashability but w/e, the struggle is the same

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i hate rolling AP disk 4s, they basically only ever have one good substat so most possible rolls are shit unless you luck into a +3 or +4

runic ether
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yeah worst possible

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disc to reroll

wispy goblet
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This is why we take the +1 ATK% and run

rapid bough
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i'm just gonna call it good enough here lol

rapid bough
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can probably do better on defiler but every time i do that fight i hate it a little bit more

summer hornet
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(this is a layered joke)

wispy goblet
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increased my score by around 3k

old galleon
mental acorn
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one but he's bad

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it became the era of the agent instead

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and now we have silverash

rapid bough
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there's the lucilla drip marketing

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welp, no second half pulling for me this patch

rapid bough
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sadly think that's my max

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i've seen people hitting 50k+ with slightly more invested teams, like a 51k m0w0 (gemini) promeia/m0w1 nangong/m1w1 yuzuha and a 53k m0w1 promeia/m0w1 nangong/m0w0 (5* cradle) yuzuha

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but i just don't think i'm built for it

sharp swan
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Hashire Hashire Wuwamusume

rapid bough
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i did switch my nangong to 2pc KotS to try and get an extra stun which i think is what got me to the 45k because i got about half of a stun in

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51k m0w0 (gemini) promeia/m0w1 nangong/m1w1 yuzuha
but i watched this guy's gameplay (he also had KotS nangong) and they got a full extra stun and then some and idek where the massive daze difference is coming from

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i do know their nangong was fucking juiced tho, every disk with an AP sub was either +3 or +4 AP lol

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i also tried promeia with both 5* gemini and base fusion compiler and got basically the same score

wispy goblet
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W5 Cradle is what some people would call costscamming lamo

rapid bough
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i'll just tell myself that i'm optimal and that the 6k difference is because m1w1 yuzuha is that much better than my m0 kaboom yuzuha

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which may actually be true, but i know there was also some other shit going on to get that full extra stun that i can't figure out

wispy goblet
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Was the Yuzuha on an Impact 2 or Daze 2?

rapid bough
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no

wispy goblet
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hmm
could just be hyperoptimized parry choices

rapid bough
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probably

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though it may also be that m1w1 yuzu has better anomaly buildup and assault does increase daze too lol

wispy goblet
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that is true

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I'm starting to get a feel for Promeia's gameplay loop

rapid bough
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yeah i feel pretty comfortable with her stun rotation with nangong

wispy goblet
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building her Corrosive Cold points feel glacial (ha ha)

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I'm not even remotely doing optimized stun rotations

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I'm just getting her ult and however many held basic EXs I have

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I should skip her sig until rerun
especially if I have no problems with the upcoming Shiyus
but I'm gonna cry and moan about it the whole time

rapid bough
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her sig is probably the easiest sig skip for a DPS unit in a while

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i guess cissia's was an easy skip too if you had no intention of playing her as primary dps

wispy goblet
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If we learn reruns before her banner ends
I might do some #BuildingPity

summer hornet
late canopy
mortal iron
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ah finally 100% all the genshin maps

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okay now i can bitch about the game or smth

mystic python
slow raft
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True, i dont play the game anymore and i bitch about it constantly

mortal iron
sharp swan
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Unicorn won in SEA

mental acorn
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i love democracy

silver osprey
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Who would even vote Theresa lol

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||Girl was dying and still helped the guy who betrayed her and planned for her murder||

rapid bough
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how do i luuk herssen well enough to get 360 here dammit

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i'm even managing my tune break with mornye properly and only triggering it right before luuk's finisher skill + ult at the end of his rotation for max buffs

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can't seem to cross the finish line tho

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i do have to use trial luuk obviously and his loadout is kinda shit so maybe that's why

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but trial hiyuki was enough for dirge so i was hoping trial luuk would be enough for abom

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unrelated side note, luuk's ult voicelines are so good. "i bestow eternal peace" and "my scalpel etches your epitaph" are bars

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i found that i really like hiyuki's voiceover as well, i remember being unenthusiastic on the first teaser but her lines do go hard. i wish her ult2 animation was more impactful though, it's beautiful but doesn't have the big finish that a lot of ults do

silver osprey
runic ether
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shiiit aint that a mfer...

glossy latch
rapid bough
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i am certainly attempting them

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whether i am succeeding is a different question

glossy latch
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Lemme see then

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If I cant do it with trial Luuk

rapid bough
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i am also using trial lynae and my own mornye if that counts for anything

glossy latch
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Mornye doesnt make a big difference but gotcha, gonna use trial Lynae too

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(Well trial vs non-trial Mornye)

long tree
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"How many medals should chars counter attack units take to develop"
"Idk like 30 per unit?"
"That's like more than the medals plays can earn in a day"
"Fuck em"

glossy latch
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Oh I hate this boss

rapid bough
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yeah they picked a very annoying boss for luuk team as well lol

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optimization continues. this team is honestly so much fun

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i can prolly break 46k, i messed up my rotation a bit near the end and wasted some nangong daze that would've given me a longer stun

glossy latch
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Whats weird is that sometimes I dont get full concerto on Lynae off of her rotation

rapid bough
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i also had that issue

glossy latch
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Ill give it a couple more tries

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Yeah idk if this is doable with two trial characters

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Lemme check with non-trial Lynae

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God this boss annoys me

rapid bough
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true!

glossy latch
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Ok I think non-trial Lynae can do it with trial Luuk

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Both trial, not sure is doable

rapid bough
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to be clear my non-trial lynae is probably worse than yours which is why i'm using trial lynae

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i don't have static mist for my own lynae

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trial lynae does have it so

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but i guess maybe i can try it with my own lynae just to see

glossy latch
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Oh prolly

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And unsurprisingly my Luuk can do it first try

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Trial vs non-trial is a big gap

rapid bough
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my lynae has awkward energy regen so she's definitely a no-go

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i ended up just using my aemeath team icant

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it's by far my strongest team since i have aemeath's sig

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i actually got a higher score on abom than i did on heron which had buffs specifically for aemeath... was my heron clear just scuffed lol

glossy latch
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well aemeath is better in general than luuk, and i was also using her BIS team, and also this boss sucks ass for luuk

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doesn't luuk not have his BIS til denia releases

rapid bough
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just saw a 54.6k m0w1 promeia/m0w1 nangong/m0w5 (cradle) clear of 2.8 DA boss

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that's a 9k difference created by promeia sig and w5 cradle compared to my max

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i'm struggling to believe that's how significant of a difference promeia sig/w5 cradle are

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but when i watch this guy's gameplay it's almost exactly what i do except for, somehow, them getting the last stun way the fuck faster than me

glossy latch
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cleared 46k doropoint3

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this was after tinkering with some things, promeia was on w5 gemini and yuzu on w1 cradle

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but it was also my best run in terms of sequencing yet, i got nearly a full extra stun at the end instead of just barely the start of one

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which makes me wonder if going back to w1 compiler on promeia and w5 kaboom on yuzu would've been better

rapid bough
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so close to 48k with compiler/kaboom fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck i think i can do it

rapid bough
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must've had very favorable crit RNG on top of a perfectly sequenced run (or at least as perfect as i can get it)

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i feel like promeia's sig is more important than i'm giving it credit for specifically in the context of optimizing this fight

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it feels like you have to make a choice between having enough daze to get a full 4th stun, or having enough promeia resources to do more than like a single abloom

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i bet her sig's extra AM leading to more anomaly/disorder procs solves the resource problem somewhat so you can just tunnel vision on stunning

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in other news, i cannot believe it took me this long to realize that prika in nikke has the same VA as evelyn

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i need prika playable yesterday so i can MLB her

old galleon
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you're down that bad for evelyn, eh?

rapid bough
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i'll just bump this

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it's not as if prika isn't also mega hot tho