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it's so peak
||a sibling of a particularly larger size||
btw, how far are you into canto 8 so far, kata?
||a blood relative from the same generation that is quite enormous||
oh so youre past the ||dungeon?||
||the first one yeah, i assume there's a second||
I Have Seen What Comes Next (6 unbreakable coins) and I Fear
||thoughts on said first dungeon? also the reveal of jia mius plan||
||crazy good they're actually on track to top canto 7 i didn't think it was possible||
||jia mu is kind of a gamer but she also has to die||
||i said the same when i was playing through it as well.||
||actual chills when she said "you use the head"||
||also when binah was on screen but you dont have the context for that||
||also the entire "i ask again" fight was peak||
||truth nuke||
||wild that they are no longer satisfied with having one narrative peak per chapter||
good thing douman is a fake caster
caster of limbo
gets shredded by kama (an assassin)
now who's a fraud
Not a single librarian @ in the quotes or comments
https://x.com/misg1111/status/1998717844729843852
need her to be jolly
i guess i'm happy with above 30k across the board
but man the HP inflation on bringer is real
i remember getting near 50k back in the day lol
Kitasan rerun is in 6 days
idk, i assume some weirdness to do with the fact that banyue's banner is only 2 weeks
oh right
guess they want next DA reset to happen next patch
that'd make sense
otherwise, shunguang will get a week with a shilled boss
tho ig they could just do it again...
improved by switching my eve and yixuan teams, neat
broke 100k, now i'm happy
i could probably improve even further by using dialyn with eve
but making that fight work with eve took years off my life, there's so many ways to switch her in at the wrong time and fuck up your combos
plus i still don't know shit about dialyn lol
as i type this out though... now i'm a bit curious
33765 with dialyn over lighter... so very slightly better
i'm sure there are ways to optimize the fight to go HAM and break 40k or something but i'ma call it there at least for now lol
ah i'm still on astral eve too, puffer is better w/ dialyn
guess i'll tinker again in the future
... bro
How do you have a top 2k >:[
Also is the PEN set actually better than uh
Woodpecker Electro?
with dialyn yes
Ah
though technically woodpecker hasn't been her best 4pc for a while
before dialyn, it was hormone with optimal play, or astral if you were running her with astra (and astra is on lullaby)
with dialyn, it's puffer
i guess if you have none of the above it might still be woodpecker lol
i need to update my Eve too at some point
but i struggle too much to get decent gear on my other units without it that i keep pushing her off
just finished ut3'ing all the heishou and brought them into a md, this shit really tickles the brain just right
fuck yeah carve the path of a lord
Do you know about the lord hong lu coin trick btw?
I know very little beyond Use The Defense Skills
he wishes to clear a path
she, clearing the path my lord
lord hong lu uses rusty commemorative coin really well
he will use his s3, get his heishou jumping
and then he will use his s3-3 (4? idr) which is the one where hes alone
its really stupid busted for dps
legit strat: convert his whole skill kit into s3
also his counter cycles heishous in and lets them use their s3s, which rewards a full heishou team. the only 2 that cant truly contribute to this chain is meursault (and ishmael) atm, and it will often also be really broken anyways since, while not as broken of a counter skill as maost, its a stupid good counter
ohhhh I see the vision
the heishou rupture team becomes really absurd in md when you dont have to really care about the rupture count
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is that ||Lady Sunbringer|| at the start of the video
the marcel group jacket is there but
we cant really get a good look to see the head to check for any horns
oh they have translations if CC is turned on
Rupture needs... a banner thats longer than 2 weeks!
they should have ran banyue and dialyn the full patch 
man looking up eve vs shiyuan vids was the worst thing i ever did
fucker out there is getting 51k with eve/dialyn/astra all m0w1
i can't even break 40k
granted i don't have dialyn/astra's weapons but astra's isn't that important and dialyn's is good but not 11k+ good
they also have last reset's buff which was better than this one's but still, jesus fuck
i still see people breaking 40k on this reset and i top out at like 38k with the sweatiest play i can muster
i just ain't built for this
why is it aura farming
On one hand, ebil honse
On the other, Super Creek was an Umamusume who may have become Char's mother
Trainer-san, I want to play Evil Goo Goo Babies
so this is what they meant by the evil and intimidating horse...
Super Creek has 2 sides
@timber sigil @rapid bough what are the best ways to increase the combat power number on units
I assume the remolding pattern has something to do with it now
it does, but not as much as you'd probably think
the combat power number mostly doesn't matter after 11-12k imo, it goes up with stat increases but weights certain stats you might not care about (like HP) higher than others, so a high number doesn't necessarily mean your stats are what you want them to be
weapon attachments are usually your biggest stat increases
then the new remolding pattern
then neural keys
dupes (for fortify levels) also give significant increases but obviously you can't really control those for the most part
sure sure
I'm just going to focus on my fire team rn so I'm making sure they all have the best stuff
the only burn team member i've upgraded the remolding pattern to 60 for is qiongju
everntually i'll do sharkry
but it's a relative waste for vector/reissi
i think the correct thing to do with them is upgrade to 40 since 41+ is where most of the cost is
Potential Zhao disc
yeah I'm just gonna do QJ and Sharkry
as is tradition
Death, taxes and bad rolls om promising discs
@rapid bough @idle grove
lmfao
lore inaccurate since klukai is actually a good cook if you make her a chef on the crew deck
once again proving she is all we need
There is hope for my skill issue
honestly really curious to see where they go with ||the qingming sword's side effects on shunguang. there's a disconnect between story where it's the last resort that puts her out of commission for several days, versus gameplay where she's going qingming mode multiple times per fight||
||i find it hard to believe she gets released under the current narrative where she's actually slowly killing herself during gameplay... but it would also make her far more interesting if we didn't just find "the cure" where she can use the qingming sword for brief periods with no side effects, and is actually still doomed to a tragic end with possible future plot beats of forgetting the proxies/friends/past major events/etc||
||personally i don't think hoyo has the stones to not give us some mitigation of the qingming sword's effects, if only because it makes managing shunguang's story easier long-term, and translates to her gameplay better. but man if they rock up next patch and she's forgetting interactions with the proxies (like the current diary event) permanently with no end in sight? she'd be so much more engaging as a character||
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I want him desperately
You just had to be there when her design was first revealed.
The ENTIRE feed was fanart of her. People who drew Arknights, people who drew other games, people who haven't drawn before, people who STOPPED DRAWING came back to make draw her.
Everyone LOVES Raidian.
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2 more standard recruit bonuses + tia and helm being added to it is pretty damn nice
notable new player experience improvement to be able to guarantee the tia+naga duo and access to helm's treasure since it's far and away the best one in the game atm
surface improvements are welcome and necessary, and seems like almost all of them are what players would want, so heading in the right direction there
i know i saw a lot of people saying to just scrap the mode entirely, tbh i've always seen the vision but the initial release was just way too tedious. these changes (+ i hope whatever else they haven't listed) will go a long way to improving it
one thing they didn't list that i put in the survey was to just reduce the number of clicks required to do the 3 dailies
i try to do a few days' worth (like 15+) at once and the amount of clicks needed is diabolical
just finishing a single daily requires going through like 4 confirm dialogs, madness
also if you ever change the sector they appear in (i prefer sector 1 since it's smallest so less travel required to complete), once you finish a daily it resets the location so you have to re-select what you want
minor frustrations like those add up when you're dealing with them every day, potentially dozens of times
Wizardry Variants Daphne
Abyss 4 is here
My characters are constantly getting frozen
Also this cat works at the new town's adventurer's guild
i'm :3 as fuck man i'm :3 for real
so :3 right now
Just had someone retweet the latest azur lane tweet and these guys are so shameless man, there is no shot 
is it the cow ship
Yea
i don't play AL anymore but of course she popped up on my reddit feed lol
and that's just her base design
guarantee she has a release costume that's even more shameless
replying to this to go back to it later
bc granblue dropped this
i have 270 gold moons and i must scream
oh also free draws have started in granblue, granted they're only singles for now
anyway, first batch of christmas characters this were reinhardtzar and bennu (released with november premium)
the other batch is released with this month's flash, being zeta and maria theresa
spoilering the uncap art just to be safe, tho i dont' think it's that bad ||https://media.skycompass.io/assets/customizes/characters/1138x1138/3040628000_02.png||
and there's the empress
you even do the incredibly lewd act of hand holding : ^)
kashino has been out since 2020
did they release another cow ship?
oh they did
cowpens lol
anyway, gonna go read nikke dev notes now
i haven't played arknights in a long while and i love raidian, so this tracks

Who doesn't really
nikke has a lot of surface mode improvements in the works, so that's good
Canto 8 spoiler
||https://vxtwitter.com/Marciszek___/status/1997337932256928164||
i would hope they do, with all the problems it has and all the rage it spawned
but it's good to see actually written down in public
the legendary
hopefully all this makes the mode less of a tedious slog to do
they also said 2 collabs next year instead of 3 so that they can put more focus into nikke's story
which i'm fine with
2 collabs per year was standard until this year so seems like just a return to form
and a teaser for new year being something they wanted to write for a while but no actually substantive reveals
this last year was unique with the stellar blade collab
given that was a collab with themselves lol
yes, but it's still good to announce in advance
bc otherwise you'll have peopel going "collab 3 where?" all the time
the director's note of 3rd anni explicitly taking a difficult but necessary direction ||makes me think inherit (except for noah) is DEAD dead||
||same for nihilister and indivilia, probably. chatterbox should be dead but that fucker can never die and imo there's too much mystery left in what he actually is to kill him off quite yet||
||can we please turn the loquacious one into the deceased one||
oh there's a second post
rapi rerun is officially confirmed
not that it wans't predictable given the last few ny events, but nice to get confirmation
||core 7 rapi will happen||
helm and tia being added to that standard pity is good too
esp helm
yeah i gave my thoughts up here
overall a relatively minor dev note but all the things they announced are good so hard to argue
people have opinions on the third anni
that range from "good, keep killing nikkes" to "they manufactured these nikkes' deaths"
personally i'm of the opinion that death isn't the only form of stakes available to story writers, and it shouldn't be used lightly
but that it also shouldn't be outright avoided if it adds to the story
i also think it's really easy to say "kill more characters" until it's your favorite one on the chopping block lol
also that, yes
that said, nikke definitely had an issue up to this point with being noncommital towards character death
i don't really have a huge attachment to inherit or eden in general, but i empathize with their fans
while death isn't the only way to raise the stakes, when it's repeatedly ignored or dismissed it can lower them
red hood has had what, like 4 different "final farewell" moments now? lol
i think there's some sort of balance between not having death at all (which is fine if that's teh story they want to tell, but they clearly don't), having death but not all the time (which is fine too), and having death but death not being a real consequence (the dragonball problem)
but i'm no professional writer so i'm not gonna argue too much about where that balance is or what i think it should be
it's cool that the director basically admits they got a bit caught up in the "hero's journey/hero saves the day" narrative with the commander and realized that an adjustment was necessary, even if only for a time
if nothing else, yes, that is a necessary correction
the commander isn't god, nor is he nayuta
so he can't be everywhere at once
and he sure as hell ain't omnipotent
nikke is usually at its best when it embraces its post-apocalyptic/dystopian roots and realizes shit isn't all sunshine and rainbows
i mean, look no further than some of the more universally acclaimed stories
overzone?
old tales?
arguably red ash too
(so a lot of the anni/half anni stories)
yeah lol
tbh in that context the events of eden's spear aren't that out of the nrom
though even some of the side stories are goated for that too
well, goddess fall and eden's spear
i really liked terminus ticket just now for instance, reminded me of miracle snow
||i want to know what teh ramifications of a human dying on the surface on their watch will be : ^)||
hard mode ending incoming
but with all that said, i do also enjoy a bunch of the happier stories they do
tho i guess "happier" is relative
yeah lol it can't be depresso all the time
the best stories are ones that strike a balance, old tales does that for instance
pretty brutal for 80% of the time but that makes the last 20% of "we are so back" hit that much harder
terminus ticket does that too ||(other way around tho lmao)||
makes me think back to footstep walk run, it was good but definitely not as good as old tales
and i think the reason i feel that way is because it was just one long depression bomb, like "here's rapi living her worst life for 3 hours straight"
it ended on a high note but a much shorter and more understated one than old tales
footstep was focused on rapi, while old tales was more expansive
yes, cindy is the focal character of old tales, but there's a lot more going on there
and, bluntly, the grimms are more historically significant than rapi
at least as presented in the context of the overall story (as opposed to just the commander's story)
idt the scope or overall importance to the universe is really a differencemaker, at least not to me
if pressed, i guess i'd say the differences in presentation boil down to old tales having the full depth and weight of an anniversary event
while footstep is "only" a new year event
one of the few stories in nikke to genuinely make me cry for example was nya nya paradise and that's as minor an event as it gets
my issue in hindsight with rapi's event is that it was just rapi torture for like 99% of its runtime lol
nya nya sounds like a story about cats, and it is not that hard to make a depressing or sad story featuring animals
it got a bit numbing
i'm not gonna discount the emotional impact the story has, of course
but subject matter can also play a role
the highlights of old tales for me were the character moments of cindy and abe, and a bit of oswald the goat
arguably less so after she met red hood, but yeah
honestly could take or leave the rest of the old tales squad, at least at the time
(though after 2.5 anni they can pry mermaid from my cold dead hands)
definitely the start up until she met red hood was "how badly can we try to break the cutie"
I'm not as sure that ||Indivilia will be permanently dead, if only because she's never been pullable. I think the only purely historical characters we've had are alts of living characters.||
And if ||Indivilia is still on the table, then a Nihilister alt probably is too.||
... Im starting to realise 24k hp might not even be possible on Lucia with perfect rolls
what're your w-engine and disc sets
The support one and the hp one and not her signature (I think Im on vault?)
dear god have you been farming lucia disks since her release
meta posted this once upon a time, can't imagine it's not true anymore
my takeaway was that it is technically possible but insanely hard
my lucia is just short of 23k HP and i'm happy with that lol
||true, and to be fair, the "difficult direction" they were talking about was definitely killing inherit and maybe nihilister. i don't think anyone was crying when girlfailure indivilia "died" lol||
||that said, thus far indivilia has been exclusively an antagonist and has nearly killed several characters we love (anis, neon, marian, chime, crown). she's got a long way to go before she's justifiably playable||
||and on that note, it does still surprise me they made liberalio playable. she's endearing enough so far strictly within the main story, but never forget she directly caused the events of goddess fall and would probably do it again in a nanosecond even with hindsight||
||she's on an interesting path after being shown that humans/heretics/raptures can co-exist equally, and seems to be want to talk earnestly with the queen about it, but she's still on mom's side until further notice||
Not only her ... but yes
Yeah Im not sure I can get there
Im at 22.7k
last i checked i was like 22950 and yeah, getting beyond that requires insane levels of optimization and +4 or more HP% rolls on basically every piece that can get it
Dang
again, 24k is possible
you just literally need godroll disks in every slot
like, "every disk has +5 into % and/or flat HP"-level godrolling
and even that might not get you there if the spread of flat vs % isn't quite right
3 days left for Kita rerun
||indivilia does have some fans i'm sure, but yeah, her "death" i'm sure had many more people cheering||
BAM another 1500
yes sir glory to cygames
More gems for the Kita fund
canto 8 spoiler, but its an fgo reference so i think only regi would get it out of the active limbus players here
||https://vxtwitter.com/dovetree14/status/1932117937751835067||
Ueda Kana... Rinface for New Year's 2026?
"wait and wishlist" strat paying off at a fitting time
LET'S GO AZX
L E T S G O A Z X
I'm so close to spending gems on more slots
very sneaky of them to give Winter Brid surface movespeed and Winter Diesel range up
something else i noticed belatedly is that liberalio became the best wind option for +dmg taken
i was using quiry before lol
saved me a synchro slot
but tbh, if you've unlocked everything on the surface so far, it's not worth pushing synchro slots for 8 full squads
realistically i only use 2 teams atm
sanis/x.diesel/rapunzel/rrh/OSmihara
x.brid/brid/naga/scarlet/s.doro
and even then i only use both at once to speed up dailies
the weekly bosses and base defenses that you'd use elemental/support teams for aren't useful yet, so i just don't bother
i didn't push surface very hard, but hopefully the planned fixes make it more fun
bc i want to like the idea
i'm not sure it'll ever be "fun" because ultimately it's another set of chores to do
but so long as the streamlining cuts the time investment required into a fraction of what it was, i'll be happy
it's going to become very significant to character power once the beta ends
there's lots of room to expand it to be more interesting/interactive, but right now they just need to cut down on the tedium
because doing those bosses/base defenses weekly as they currently work would suck ass
luckily the changes they mentioned in the dev note are all moving in the right direction
the boss fights are kinda fun
unfortunately the controls a little too unresponsive to really evoke that good RTS feel
yeah improving the controls should definitely be in the pipeline too
idk why they don't let you select multiple squads at once but they really need to add that feature lol
imo the boss fights are too long, and they said they plan on shortening them to start
but i hope with some control updates they can introduce more mechanics to the bosses
would much prefer short and interactive to long but afk-able (which is what they currently are if you bring 2 support squads lol)
Canto 7 spoiler || https://www.reddit.com/r/limbuscompany/s/Jcn7Iyvezf ||
poor suomi lmao
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Not a single iota of subtlety in this trailer
Almost like a wizardry variants... Daphne
it is insanely dumb how they chose to release leva and lenna's events for this anni
lenna's event takes place after part 2 of leva's and contains significant spoilers for it
but part 2 of leva's event doesn't become available until after lenna's event ends
wtf were they thinking
forcing people to spoil what i imagine are major twists in part 2 of leva's event just because they'll lose access to lenna's event if they wait is absolutely diabolical
i'm just gonna blast through Lenna event and reread after I finish Deep Oblivion ngl
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canto 8 spoilers
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actually peak
no 360 noscope tho smh
if only

Gorgeous 
probably the correct choice but requires you to know it has spoilers ahead of time
i knew and went through anyway because i know myself and that i probably wouldn't actually go back and reread it lol
but i feel bad for anyone who didn't know and went through and was both confused initially (since dialogue talks about events in odesa) and then very spoiled at the end
side note, lenna event genuinely felt like a 2 part event crammed into one part
it had so much dialogue and jumping around
easily the most dense 1 part event yet in terms of story content, to the point it was jarring specifically because it had to jump around so much to fit what it needed into its runtime
good story tho, especially the second half. first half was mostly setup and tbh got a bit confusing as the story was developing in like 5 different disconnected ways at once and it was unclear how they would all connect
ig i'm waiting until it gets added to archives
PoV zzz is the only gachagames I can do dailys at 
another eden is extending the chrono cross collab
apparently also updating the characters for stellar awakening and making glenn playable
should happen in february
for reference, that collab was originally scheduled to end in december next year
now it's scheduled to end in 2031
They sent each other to brazil

I love being evil
obligatory reminder for fgo people to finish traum
next event, a lotto event, requires traum completion to play to its fullest
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She's just like me fr
Yay
the power of weaponized tone deafness
finished up miranda's favorite item earlier
so that makes four
i guess miranda core is finally live
speaking of, miranda+mihara shenanigans are fun
dang I should have done solo mode yesterday
had a long day today and now I'm wiped
might just do a five-auto run
competitive goo goo babies who wins
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Raidian do be the mom of all the RI kids
standard misty reaction to not having insane gacha luck
no im going huh at haing e5 himeko
i can start gaining the free 5 stars after 50/50 losses to her soon
i know you are, but i couldn't pass up the timing
i have enough saved up free 5 stars in this game i can just get her to e6 and start doing so hmmmmm
I basically have Dahlia guaranteed, but if I win the 50/50 Id have rolls leftover
... not sure what to do with em
God how long does it take to verify files???
Oh lost the 50/50 to Blade
Huh
Thats a new one Ig
Dahlia Obtained 
Had to get to soft pity twice tho
Oh ok
3.4 drained me so im relying on everything we get this patch to get Dahlia
i have her guranteed at least after losing xu fuan last patch
I guess I feel less bad about having to get to soft pity now :)
im like 20ish pulls away from getting her
tho im not super inspired to play too much hsr
Idk how good her E1 is lmao
iirc its okay
i think her s1 is better overall...? but thats cus it takes less pulls u know?
Well I lucked into it so I guess thats not a concern for me
Also hey, Blades a thing now Ig
Not a clue if hes even worth farming for
I’m 10 pulls away from soft pity
Could exchange for it, but I wanna save up 600 to get another Bronya LC
The daily tickets will get me there anyways
no he'll be live tomorrow
Me when I'm playing Crystron
Now the only question is ... who do you even replace with Dahlia, Ruan Mei?
Yeah makes sense
you jest but

the only thing i've heard about this patch is the 2 minute lesbian sex scene between dahlia and black swan
Ah yes the procrastination
time to solo raid
Nice, got two artifacts rerolled on Phainon and got pretty good rolls on both
At this point I just need sunday for him tbh
On the other hand, oof, Dahlia has kinda rough f2p options for the lightcone
It's pretty much just resolution huh?
... and I've already used my two copies
I guess I can give Fugue Solitary Healing?
I prefer Pearls on Fugue, Solitary on Dahlia because Fugue already builds EHR to make Pearls more consistent
And Dahlia shares her BE in sustain teams so giving her more is a bit more valuable, as long as Fugue has 220 post buffs
oh my god
So apparently Chey-chan's camping mode animation isn't just a singular animation, it dynamically changes based on the zone she's currently in:
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Mizuki 
Lost the 50/50 to Soldier 11 😔
Need to hope I can get an early S-rank for Banyue then
We a losing our 50/50s huh

Yeeep
Second one today too
And Im not sure I can get 60 rolls in the remaining 12 days >.>
holy shit don chan
lost the 50/50 to bronya
luckily that was only hafter 20 pulls and nsince i had 200 pulls ready and waiting i was able to get dahlia after another 76
@idle grove @rapid bough Cheyanne's kit
god extreme calibration is so fucking expensive
tbh the main bottleneck isn't even the chips
it's sardis gold lmao
oh is she another phys unit
yep
HSR has blessed me today
I’m surprised you didn’t have e6 on March and Gallagher already
my gacha luck in hsr is basically nonexistant
All the screencaps I’ve seen from the 3.8 story so far are crazy yuri-coded
The user, the yugioh character or the genre?
yes
Truly the unchanging
what are we, some kind of the unchanging?
This is getting too harsh we all can't lose the 50/50
Says who
... yknow the worst part is its probably correct to not get Banyue and get the void hunter
Physical is an element I only have Jane Doe for
And Im stacked on fire
Im in much the same position
However, (un)luckily, i likely wont have enough rolls to hit pity twice by the time banyue releases, so i will have no choice but to not get him anyways
I mean he already released so
But also same
Im 45 rolls from soft pity and I think I can get 25 at most
Especially because hes only around for 12 days yeah
I am hoping I still get him because he looks fun
And I just genuinely dont care for the void hunter
Other than her being a good physical unit
me with jane and m2 alice
i do not need ye shunguang
also she hasnt been written the best either
my concern is a jane rerun
If you try him you will know if you actually think he is fun
If we see a Jane skin in this Friday's preview stream....
Ill do the event soon™
But tbh Id be surprised if he isnt fun
But I have to get lucky and he wont have his sig 😔
Alternatively I get the void hunter and her sig
Which is like good and Shiyu and DA have been rough lately
But idk
I could also just drop ZZZ for now and check back when it has a story I find interesting or character designs I vibe with
"oh that's a cool prop- holy shit that's skade"
https://x.com/skadels/status/2001308702364590141

i would also be shaking at having 859 unclaimed missions
if sanby/astra rerun leaks are confirmed then i am going to leave this next patch with absolutely no savings
i want shunguang, sanby, and astra m1, and probably sanby's weapon. TBD on shunguang's, she seems the most likely to have solid f2p options and i have a 3* brimstone 
that's my break glass in case of emergency
you have almost 1600 quartz, so you're probably not gonna have an emergency anytime soon, esp with no new servants until at least new year
i can never feel too safe with this game
True

dawn of the final day
it's been a long road
Good run guys, but idt limbus company is beating fgo
https://x.com/Arev948/status/2001316787787362644
fgo vs nikke lol
fgo has the weight of 10 years and a whole pre-existing ip behind it
nikke is great but it has little chance
Yeah nikke has basically already lost which is why im predicting the next stage alr
So FGO vs Arknights?
you simply have to believe
Overall i think i agree with all the results so far for gachas ive played except maybe ptn vs zzz
fgo vs ak was how the previous gacha game story tournament ended too 
That was also the finals last time iirc
I dont think you can put reverse 1999 over arknights so the only possible change could be the #limbussweep
is limbus beating pgr?
aight
The Type Moon oldtypes vs the Limbus sleeper agents...
honestly, i'd be fine with nikke or limbus beating fgo just for it to be something different
Type moon vs project moon 
ak vs limbus would be crazy
It is pretty much pure cinema all the way up at this point
3 months ago we were friends; now we're at war
Im thinking back to the collab and man that was so peak
I loved the part where we killed the ocean
kjh's church of the deep oc 
Honestly last knight is one of the most ineresting boss designs weve had in a while, maybe ever
The freeze mechanic was really novel
(and traumatic)
Honestly all the enemy mobs were really cool ways of implementing Arknights mechanics
....their red coins were also much easier to handle than the Heishou and Bloodfiend mobs have been so far
zzz sneak
Woah what is that doing there
i'm curious what the hoyo enjoyers think of ZZZ's story compared to their other main IPs (hi3, hsr, genshin)
also yeah i feel like this bracket just shouldn't be allowed to have FGO lol
it's basically a cheat code for this discussion in particular
i haven't played it myself but i know its reputation, and even if it didn't have that reputation it's attached to a gargantuan IP that does have that reptuation so
zzz's story is... by far the worst of the main hoyo games and all 3 of the main hoyo games rn are far worse than honkai impact 3rd
its a bit hard to compare zzz's story in a sense? because genshin has had quite a lot of time
and it has had some real stinkers
some lows far worse than anything zzz has made
honestly the 2.0 story/setting was such whiplash vs 1.0 that it put me off from even playing that much.
i didn't install zzz to play a chinese temple management simulation...
i actually fucked with the temple management but that's because i'm a sucker for simulation type stuff
but it was a minor thing and basically an afterthought after 2.0
they added automanagement in the most recent patch so i bid it a fond farewell
imo ZZZ's overarching story is fairly mid at best, but the character stories thus far have been solid and largely carry everything else
which isn't really surprising considering ultimately gacha games rely on selling characters most of all
but they don't need to be mutually exclusive, you can have a strong overarching plot and strong individual character plots
yeah
which was an overall strong point of hi3rd
and genshin for a good while
genshin is honestly surprising it beat anyone rn given that the overarching story is seemingly being thrown out the window for a new one that'll last longer given hoyo's plans after how hi3rd has been feeling now that the main story for that game ended
they've course corrected way too strongly
i mean ultimately you can bet this is largely a popularity poll lol
genshin's still the biggest hoyo game by a wide margin
mmm to an extent
losing to nikke is pretty indicative of current genshin story's quality however
hey nikke's story is pretty damn good lol
ik nikke's story is apparently good
shame it's against FGO
but it is not nearly as large as genshin in terms of popularity
true but it has the advantage of being known for two things
- plot
- "plot"
yeah and even then tho that wouldnt have mattered if this poll was hosted vs genshin from 2 years ago
4.x patch genshin had a pretty damn good story
kinda depends for nikke too, i think you'd see a similar effect if you polled nikke's story 2 years ago
and it may be the most popular cast of characters? or at the very least the 2nd most popular overall cast which came after an insanely good cast of characters
while i do think it's still pretty good, i think the prevailing sentiment is that it was best in the first year or so
but i think that's true of basically every game to some extent
tho i am willing to bet nikke's latest stories are still much stronger than genshin atm
every game's got its highs and lows
every game except for limbus company it started low (not that low really) and its only been topping each and every canto every release including the intervallos
unfortunately it is about to get mogged in this poll by FGO (after it beats nikke)
arknights is the only real competitor to fgo and thats on the other bracket
i honestly didn't know arknights' story was highly regarded (on the level of FGO anyway)
but i don't claim to be tapped in to the gacha community
my only exposure to it is this chat and the occasional r/gachagaming thread
this chat has many limbus enjoyers so i'm familiar with its reputation somewhat
Yeah arknights is p good
arknights sees relatively little discussion here i feel
However it does not have voice acting and sometimes suffers from terminal yapper syndrome
on the subject of terminal yapping
gfl2 is definitely guilty of that at times, but it also has a very good overall story (that got derailed for a while as mica course corrected their initial direction)
ah gacha players worst nightmare: reading
honestly kinda an oversight that girls frontline (either 1 or 2) aren't in this poll
it's more niche than basically every other game but i get the sense it's known for its story even among people who haven't played it
story and feet, gfl2's two specialities
i'ma be real though, i think no voice acting is a major limiting factor to my enjoyment of/engagement with a story
i happen to go one step further though and consider specifically EN VO a pretty important factor to my enjoyment
didn't gfl lose round 1 to fgo or is that not gfl
i think nikke has escaped some of the gooner appearance due to having some good story to where it can be discussed over as having one, but i dont think i've ever seen or heard anything about gfl2 that isnt hardcore about gooning it something heavy
oh it is you are correct
the one i'm missing in here is blue archive
rip, FGO first round, it was over before it even began
No voice acting in story but the gameplay en vo is the best in the buisness, funnily enough
and gbf hit nikke round 1 lol
does BA even have a story? much like misty saying that she's only heard of gfl's gooner reputation, that's all i know of BA
i think it has a story?
wait who plays BA again
Bas story is very ligjthearted for the most part from what i rember
i'm just saying among big gachas that have at least a semblance of one, that one felt missing
Kreek plays
i will glaze arknights story until the day i die but everybody here is either in the same boat so there's not really a point or hasn't caught up yet so it would be spoiling 
the game i actually care about not being in here is another eden, but that one's too niche
if i ever start playing blue archive you certainly won't see me admit to it here
would not stand a chance against a lot of these for the popularity part of it
it cant be all bad if Kree plays it
I played it until i realized i hated the gameplay and didnt care for the story or characters
i feel like BA is probably just one of those games where most of the Gooning is just from the comunity
no i get the sense the game itself leans into the gooning hard lol
but i say that from pretty low exposure
this feels cursed as hell
i think yall accidentally summoned this pop up
The game leans less into the gooning than like
big brother is watching
Gfl
the community is pretty dogwater tho
speaking of leaning into the gooning hard, brown dust 2 has been teasing their upcoming 2.5 anni content and honestly i am absolutely shocked they're still listed on app stores
how long until they just outright show sex on screen
gacha games trying to see how far they can lean before its deemed to far
it's tough to say which of BD2 or AL has toed that line closer
al has shown sex on screen tho
but it's definitely more likely for BD2 to just go all-in on H than AL
they just haven't shown genitals or the like
they've done the "simulated sex" stuff with a lot of skins in the past year
yes, which i count : ^)
BD2 has done that too but also like
the fated guest sequences definitely have very explicit foreplay and show everything short of penetration and genitals in some cases
i feel like BD2 has reached peaks of lewdness that top even AL in terms of what they actually show
whereas al features simulated penetration and the like
but the way they're both going i could see them both crossing a line
i think BD2 crossing the line is more likely than AL since it has less to lose from being delisted on app stores lol
azur lane's never doing a pc client, are they
but more likely they both just continue to exist, toeing the line as closely as possible without crossing it
nah i gave up on that hope a while ago
they even did a mumu collab with mumu releasing an update specifically catered to optimzing azur lane emulation lol
it's joever
lol rip
an AL PC client is basically the only thing that could get me to come back to the game atp
and even that might not
it's probably for the best i dropped it since it's such a huge time sink lol
i'd probably be playing it but i don't have space on this device for all of nikke, another eden, and azur lane, and nikke carries over the other two, while ae def beats al for me
and even if i did have room for them all, yeah, time issue
sad since they're dropping lexington ii soon, who i'd been waiting for for a while
but alas
yeah i saw lex2 reveals
i locked in that i wasn't coming back when i missed unzen rerun
between waiting for ZZZ's Friday preview stream and the potential next wave of beta leaks
I'm going through withdrawals out here
seeing some people speculate that New Year's won't be Idol Anis
based on the recent dev note
all they said about it is that it's a story they've wanted to tell for a while
if that's not idol anis idk what is lol
what other story+character combo has been built enough to warrant the hype and pomp associated with a NY event
speaking of nikke, was a bit disappointed with the hard mode ending
||not that it was bad--more depresso was expected--but i was kinda looking forward to them showing the ark/central government's reactions to nora's story||
hit me kinda hard for personal reasons, if nothing else
yeah it hit hard don't get me wrong
just felt like a missed opportunity
overall was definitely a big fan of the event tho
continues the trend of winter events being bittersweet lol, but probably my favorite one so far
Honestly Im starting to wonder whats even keeping me in ZZZ at this point beyond sunk cost fallacy
... granted I havent done the HSR story in a hot minute either so
i give zzz flack for a bad story
but the characters (overall) are pretty damn good
and holy shit it has events
the lowest bar of all time has been cleared
for me it's because i like the gameplay and because evelyn brings me to my knees every time i see her
and its beaten hsr

Idk Ive not been liking ZZZ designs in a hot minute besides Banyue
Granted I dont know about their characters since I havent done the story
agree, there has yet to be a character i don't at least like
god i hate how lacking HSR has been with events
kinda whatever on some of the designs lately
well i havent liked seed or orphie much at all
oprhie is aight
and im still not sold on shunguang
Seed is a mix bag
i actually liked both of them, the closest to fall flat for me has prolly been lucia
her story with Seed senior was great
yidhari for me was def the lowest
outside of that shes a bit unhinged
Design wise I think Dialyn is the first character since Yuzuha and Alice that I thought was alright
agree i really like seed's character story, though i agree her character itself i was kinda whatever about
Orphies problem is mostly that the bottom half of her design just completely ignores what the top half is doing for the sake of sexy
orphie i'm overall just whatever about but she's cute so that's carrying it a bit
i liked magus at least
my beloved...

In general the male characters are the only ones I consistently like the designs of in ZZZ
isolde highkey had the best design of any character in 2.0 so far lol
But S-rank characters are rarely male
she left no crumbs on the plate
yeah
|| and she took the crumbs to her grave||
S-ranks/5* yeah
i think its worst that they made a human boss version of her too
i like manato's design well enough but i actually think his highlight for me is the character piece
dude is just the realest
certified real one
its like Hoyo is taunting us
i've loved manato ever since he called out yuzu on her brat/tsundere bullshit early in her intro lol
like, i felt like they were gonna be the cunning hares for the 2.x patches
where they kind of got us involved with everyone besides yunkui summit
also manato's 2.3 cinematic went hard as fuck, especially this scene https://youtu.be/2ZCdSSNPaGs?si=eVByR6iZMH8rTOpr&t=82
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Idk WuWa is the only one where Ive been up to date on the story
honestly a tragedy he was relegated to A rank
Though in HSR that was because of Xianzhou Luofou
his VA work is stellar too
I didnt want to play the Xianzhou story and I never picked it back up lmao
wait wtf wrong timestamp fuck you youtube
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ok fixed it idk why the initial link was wrong
not before S rank billy feeds families
Honestly though with ZZZ I feel like the designs suffer badly from trying to appeal primarily towards a very specific audience
HSR for its faults at least has more variety
(Though I wish we would get non-humans for once)
Its crazy that the most playable non human we have in hsr is svarog
i agree to an extent, it's definitely been true of specifically the last few characters before dialyn
A humanoid robot who shows up as a summon for another char
orphie, seed, lucia, and yidhari all had pretty phoned in designs that seemed to lean too heavily on just being sexy for the sake of it
oh definitely
like im not gonna say that trigger and s11 were perfect
but they felt like soldiers
seed really doesnt
orphie kinda
Orphie would if the bottom half of her design matched the top half
lucia and yidhari felt like they got pulled back in cus they saw yixuan's success and dialed it in
i still think yixuan's design is fine, though it toes the line a little bit it at least fits her character imo
The top half works as a relatively believable military outfit
But then she just has bare legs and thigh-highs
i will say, dialyn, banyue, and zhao are a top design faction
but those 4 in between... idk what happened
God I wish he was a solo unit 😔
Also god I wish we would get Screwllum already
yeaa
Banyue isnt perfect tbh, I kinda think his gauntlets stick out a little too much
like yidhari definitely activates my neurons and i'd have waifu pulled for her if i had the savings
But god by ZZZ standards he is peak
but there's no doubt that her design and personality are at odds, probably the biggest conflict between them in the entire game tbh
mmmm
Getting robot mogged by arknights as a space game is so sad
i don't really like lucia's design but it doesn't stick out to me as conflicting with her
It feels weird cause overall zzz feels like it has more variety than hsr but then you think about it and theres so much homogeny
yidhari looks and (in gameplay) acts like almost a femme fatale like jane, she does the pole dancing and shows tons of skin and shit
Incredibly uninteresting but fine
but her actual personality is like... innocent cinnamon roll
ZZZ has more extreme outliers
HSR has more baseline variety but it doesnt have anything like Banyue or the Panda
WuWa is similar in that regard tbh
Baras lifting up the game like atlas
All humans, but the variety in their outfits goes a long way
... well all humanoid and almost all humans
Still mad Morinyes artificial legs have fucking heels
Real shame on limbus company that they dont have any non humans smh
Way to ruin a good design
woe, 1 million heishou packs upon you
Tbh I do hope WuWa gives us some non-humans at some point but like
They did kinda write themselves into a corner with regards to how the powers work
Basically the only way to make it work is a playable tacet discord
But that's ... unlikely
They shoulda made the adepts more beastial
but there is also
agree
Though tbf, the egos do give some nice non human flair
i saw a zilu art of her with bunny ears and bunny feet and i was like, what was really stopping them? aside from the head
Honestly for HSR I wouldnt mind how human the cast was if it wasnt a fucking space game where we know non-human races exist
playable sentinels
Its just that they only exist as NPCs and enemies
Theoretically, but Idk if they wanna go a step above the sentinel resonators
I think playable tacet discord is more likely of the bunch
tbh i disagree there
Like, the only other gacha i can think of where you can have a playable char like this is reveree 1999
what am i looking at?
(Inversely weve seen non-evil TDs, just none that were intelligent)
a gun man mirror
The most powerful ego in the game
Is it a Freischütz or something else entirely?
i don't know how to digest that
close
Surprising its not called the black huntsman then
the hunter element is not nearly as present in project moon's universe
the element is def more focused on the magic bullets
Nyaruhodo
Anyway Ill see if I can get Banyue in time or not
Only 39 pulls to hard pity and 11 days to go, what could go wrong 🙃
Think I'm going g to skip till alice rerun
im getting banyue and then praying no jane rerun
It resets tomorrow in fact
(Well friday rather)
Problem is I cleared almost all events
And the only thing I could still do is grind the story out
i also am waiting until an alice rerun but there's too much shit i need to pull in the meantime
shunguang and possible sanby rerun next patch ugh
I think Ill see if ZZZ manages to really hook me again before 3.0 or I might just drop it for a bit
At which point its just HSR and WuWa left
well in terms of character releases it's gonna be shunguang and then the virtual idols
And for HSR Im mostly just seeing how theyll do 4.0 now
the idols will be so nice for saving
so if none of that hooks you then the only thing that could is the story
we'll see who they rerun alongside them lol
but yeah i look forward to not needing to pull new characters for the idol patches
ughhhh i do have a fear that they will do some banger reruns
idt i will even if they turn out to be turbo broken
i want to play the long game of getting my beloved eve to m6 but jesus christ they aren't letting me save
in gfl2 i managed to save up enough to v6 my favorite on a rerun (after getting v1+her weapon on her first run) without needing to swipe the credit card to get an infusion of pulls
but gfl2 gives out significantly more pulls and has hoyo rates but better (fewer pulls needed for pity)
i don't think i'll ever reach that level of savings with ZZZ at the rate they release characters i want lol
Tbh I wouldnt want even my favourite character at M6, that just makes shit too easy tbh
game's already easy
m6 gives me a reason to use the character after the inevitable power creep
the next fire attacker released will probably be better than eve
but m0 of whoever they are ain't gonna be better than m6 eve
and if they are then the game is well and truly cooked on powercreep
the point is for the brute force fun
even without m6 alice, i do like brute forcing her in content she shouldnt succeed in
like wandering hunter
i already brute force eve in content she obviously isn't meant to be used in lol
which is a lot of current content due to rupture shilling
Yeah I will say
glad that thrall gives her a niche again
Ok i looked through them and theres so many good corrosions actually, i just never corrode
Like cool, a bunch of bosses that basically make old teams really clunky against them
Yay
time duck is so cool
i had never seen glup shitto corroded
it's a shame since i think boss design in terms of mechanics has gotten steadily better
Same lol
but their stats and the shiyu/DA buffsets are shilled so heavily toward specific teams
basically inting to use anomaly on defiler for instance
Yeah
Yeah its been kinda difficult clearing endgame content for me without a rupture char
tbh it's kinda been inting to use anomaly on any recent bosses lol, i think they've had it hard lately
miasmic fiend was the last boss anomaly was usable for
And my only really well built team being miyabi
sucks ass on defiler, hunter, and thrall tho
Like i can clear shiyu while hard forcing miyabi and eve but it aint pretty
i know it's easy to forget but yixuan actually is rupture lol
Thats cool for the people that have her ig
My only rupture char is manato rn
use manato you fool
Nah I have her
I tried for yidhari but well
she's still the most fun rupture character to use imo
Tried
(not yidhari, yixuan)
God it sucks to not be able to get every char in a gacha, anyone ever said that?
(playing yidhari felt like bashing my head against a wall)
damn that's a hot take right there
Many such cases
Im glad that WuWa has let me get the ones I care about at least
I think Ive only ever had to skip one character I was mildly interested in (though well see if I can pull Lynae in time lmao)
I think more gachas should let you get everyone like limbus does thatd be cool
the minor expense of monthly passes has been enough to get me every character (i want) in nikke and gfl2
ZZZ (and hoyo rates in general) is too rough for that though
From what i rember azur lane also had that but i think they change that at some point
Other than Changli I got everyone I wanted
And Ive been regularly pulling for signature weapons too lmao
AL is just very generous with pulling currency
But tbh WuWa is still a gacha and Id prefer if it wasnt
but its pity system sucks so there may be times you get boned
In limbus when im not interested in a character i simply get them at seasons end
But thats a topic thats been beaten to death, resurrected, and beaten to death again
Somehow, the topic returned...
Speaking of seasons end, i need to 100% md still
Bit of a yiker that one but i have 5k starlight saved up surely i can do it
im def not 100%ing md before season ends despite spamming a lot of md runs
I only have a few annoying achievements left
Like the themepack ones or the damage one or the md extreme one
All doable, i just need to sit down and do them
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gen z gay horse
I love her
Twitter vid @IHaveBread_
Yknow what I completely turned around on this character I can't wait for her.
Helios is the best
Specially by the time she comes to global her dialogue will be extra outdated
Some of my friends say you should disable character voiices when training her cuz she's too loud but to me that's the best part



