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summer hornet
Oooof
Lingsha should be viable for him, I think
But if that fails, yeah Gold Dragon Young will get you there
glossy latch
I'm not gonna try today
But I'll keep Archer as an option in mind
I guess I do need to start pulling sustains again >.>
I've mostly been pulling DPs
runic ether
theres been powercreep across the board
lingsha and hyacine are just insane
huohuo is also stronger now thanks to energy reqs
gallagher remains goated but hes a lot more limited compared to hyacine
glossy latch
Tbh I wonder if I'm doing something wrong with Lingsha because she doesn't really feel insane
Maybe I need more speed on her
runic ether
speed is a good one yeah
lingsha cares a lot about speed
that or you focus on her personal damage with an aoe buffer
glossy latch
Like as a healer she is decent but I find she struggles to keep up at some point
Eh I'll see
old galleon
fire m3 update: got another sword and the last axe i needed
still only have one staff drop lifetime lmao
rate i'm going i'm gonna need to put the sword on auto reserve before seeing another staff
already have to do that for the axe since i only need 2
finally got another staff drop
..immediately after which i got an extraneous axe drop
silver osprey
SKADISH LET'S GOOO
slow raft
She even has the stupid pants 
silver osprey
dull bridge
BRO
WTF IS THIS
i was just watching like the new trailers from hsr
and liike isnt this the fucking idiot from genshin
who blocks us??
they look the exact fucking same squares
wispy goblet
All these Nikke missing person teasers is making it suspiciously likely that the RE collab is up next....
summer hornet
https://x.com/LimbusCompany_B/status/1967876116645072968?t=WnA2rYcrT2LJnMTLVeRAj...
Skadi Ishmael?!! So we're tripling down on the Seaborn focus (and it makes sense for Ishmael too, tbf)
slow raft
Personally i wouldve expected gladiia, but ig skadi makes sense too
Notably, skadi is easier to make a corrosion for, given ishar-mla
summer hornet
Oh yeah that's also a good point lol
Just remains to be seen if the other EGOs will be Iberia/Aegir-focused or do general popular picks like Kalsit
slow raft
Well, my unbiased opinion is that we should also get mizuki
Itll provably just be popular pcks tho, with only a slight skew towards the seaborn, i imagine
summer hornet
Mizuki IS tied to the Seaborn tbf lol
slow raft
Thats the only reason i suggested him, yea
Realistically well probably get some combination of kal/mon3tr, blaze, amiya, wisadel and chen
High copium is reunion members or sui siblings
summer hornet
My brain was drawing a line from Gregor to Thorns for some reason, but it doesn't really make sense the more I think about it alas
Everyone seems to agree that Faust is Kal'sit though lmao
slow raft
Faust ptilopsis is the real pick but they dont want you to know that
Yi sang is more of a kal'sit than faust but the woke mob isnt ready for that take
summer hornet
Now that I'm in part 2 of Canto 4 I can start to see it
But that still means Faust is the #2 best match
silver osprey
Notably, skadi is easier to make a corrosion for, given ishar-mla
And ishar-mla's also loosely based on ishmael
glossy latch
... yeah that might do it
:[
Realisitcally it doesnt
I just died to the axe guy again
glossy latch
Hes bound to get a rerun soon-ish
Maybe in two patches
I should probably check my Lingshas build
Eh
Eventually™
slow raft
X
runic ether
She even has the stupid pants <:icant:1310294700384714813>
i see wym lmaoo
its a cute design tho
glossy latch
Maybe I should switch to an ERR light cone?
If Im using Lingsha in a non-break team, should I use Post-Op over What is Real?
runic ether
if you use energy, quid pro quo is best
runic ether
oh for archer
silver osprey
🤔
https://x.com/GoldSebi/status/1967928684721094998
Is everyone just getting anchors now
runic ether
ehh i think what is real is still best for lingsha
slow raft
its a cute design tho
Her base design is solid enough if you ignore the pants but then her e2 has her in this weird ass pose and her pants holes are also somehow different?
slow raft
The skins are bangers tho so no reason to use the base
glossy latch
Im also trying to farm up skill mats for Bronya and maybe try it with Phainon
runic ether
Her base design is solid enough if you ignore the pants but then her e2 has her ...
i like the orcas. but the cowboy pants are very odd. tho she does have somewhat a cowboy-like design
slow raft
Skadi the corrupting heart also slays in all iterations
runic ether
loses the whales, gains... a leviathan...?
slow raft
Long story short this is a bad end id where the eldritch being she defeated takes over her body
runic ether
ah so not necessarily ocean themed
slow raft
Still ocean themed since its ishar-mla of the seaborn
You can see a buncha little "fish" float around her
old galleon
among the abyssals i'm partial to gladiia but i'm nto sure if she'll be relevant for the collab at all
slow raft
Well the collab is pretty solidly seaborn themed so maybe wrll get more than one abyssal hunter
runic ether
i see. on closer look they do seem like angel fish
slow raft
But i figure wed get specter before anyone else
Since its also easier to make a corrosion for her
summer hornet
Yeah I use that one as default; it's so good
slow raft
Sadly gladiia doesnt have anything that even comes close to awakening 
summer hornet
Not yet
slow raft
here's one of her skins
Can we even post the other one here
old galleon
lol
other one might be a bit risky even with spoiler tag
so idk
it's not a bad one but i do prefer her first skin regardless
slow raft
Sadly gladiia doesnt have anything that even comes close to awakening <:pensivec...
Its soo good
https://youtu.be/pWU3RKBSGx8?si=vR3JSsb_zoZd_kT-
summer hornet
I hope the Specter Alter fits came through in good quality
slow raft
it's not a bad one but i do prefer her first skin regardless
I do like her nloodline of combat one quite a bit too, yea
runic ether
ohh yeah specter was the other arknight character im more familiar with design-wise cus an artist i followed hard shipped skadi specter
summer hornet
Irene's an absolute treasure
She's technically fearsome but in comparison to all the Abyssal Hunters she's just wet cat energy
slow raft
She's technically fearsome but in comparison to all the Abyssal Hunters she's ju...
Incredible aura loss from this trailer i fear
https://youtu.be/ViYqM7bTzbk?si=L-aee82LTUL5zBRK
Yooooooo
old galleon
golden age status: returned
slow raft
This post was fact checked by real iberian patriots: TRUEEEE
Btw, what are yalls speculationd for the faust, hong lu and gregor egos?
summer hornet
Faust: Kalsit/ Kal'tsit
Hong Lu: Someone Sui, IDK who
Gregor: W would be neat, Thorns Alter I could see, maybe something like Mylnar for a random left field pick
old galleon
oh right i was checking some of the more recently released arknights units and raidian looks cracked
esp as a welfare
slow raft
Clearly hong lu get surtr/blaze so he can get another immortality passive 
silver osprey
If Faust isn't Kal I'll be disappointed in KJH
Gregor could work for with some guys
old galleon
just surtr it, coming to a limbus company near you
silver osprey
Mlynar has one of his arms with a gauntlet and all
slow raft
Sui sibling for hong lu feels a bit tol obvious but then again so was abyssal hunter ishmael
You can probably use any of the war veterans for gregor
summer hornet
Oh right, Hoederer
silver osprey
I think the only character with an actual prosthesis on their arm is Vermeil
slow raft
Roach for roach is, again, a bit on the nose but i think they do love advertising wisadel so who knows
silver osprey
Well only the community calls Wisadel a roach no
slow raft
Mylnar i would like, but thats simply cause i love mylnar and not cause i think hes actually that good a fit
summer hornet
silver osprey
Clearly hong lu get surtr/blaze so he can get another immortality passive <:nyar...
Oh he could be Specter
slow raft
True
slow raft
I mean the canto 4 enemies with chainsaws give rupture, right?
slow raft
X
mental acorn
70
old galleon
very nice double melantha pull
summer hornet
Double too is crazy
*Double MON3TR
Anywho- I don't think he's the best fit, but I could see Thorns working as a fit for Gregor
slow raft
i dont even have enough for a hail mary 10 pull
mental acorn
beautiful
silver osprey
X
runic ether
h
slow raft
I hypothesized the theme for the fingers to be different kinds of hierachies the other day but this also seems lile a very apt lens to view them through. We dont know much about the pinky atp so it could also be comfort in freedom but it still would fit
https://x.com/RideForDeath/status/1967670158627094897
X
runic ether
its been out for a week
dull bridge
ok
runic ether
I hypothesized the theme for the fingers to be different kinds of hierachies the...
freedom feels more apt for the pinky
dull bridge
and after this is ice land
runic ether
yes in theory
dull bridge
which means only 2 more patches?
wasnt the storline
ice land then field of flowers?
or smt
runic ether
in the livestream they plan to extend the story scope to make genshin last for another decade or 2 in their words
bruh
runic ether
aka they want to course correct before they face another drastic drop off like hi3rd had after their story concluded
dull bridge
well yeah
i understand
but still
i want to finish this story
also isnt the cool edgy hot lady now playable
and is the hot dude playable now
or is he kahnreaih
runic ether
you're gonna need to specify
dull bridge
idfk
tart dude
and hot dude
hes voidy
i havent played genshin in like 2 years or smt
i forget
tart lady
who has the big whale
runic ether
skirk
dull bridge
yeah
runic ether
she was made playable not too long ago
dull bridge
ooh is she good?
shes like mega powerful in story
so she better be good
and the void dude
who we know about for a while
but he will never be playable
runic ether
she is strong yes
dull bridge
is she stronger then eula
runic ether
by miles
dull bridge
:(
runic ether
eula was barely good on release. its been almost 5 years since
runic ether
she's been powercrept to oblivion
dull bridge
cause i imagine hes still fucking god tier or something
slow raft
https://x.com/eienteiii/status/1967988693135925414
Im ready to get her identity of a certain fixer with such colourfully named skills as "G.S.H.", "O.R." and "G.S.V"
runic ether
xiangling, xingqiu, fischl, bennett, sucrose are all still top tier characters
sucrose is now significantly better than kazuha
dull bridge
al the 4* supports
hm
i sense a trend
i like xqq
he was always one of my favorites
it seems diff in star rail tho
the 4* supports are now just powercrept
by like robin and sunday and ect ect..
tribbie now
like ting yukong for a period of time iirc, pela might still be good idk
but i feel they designed the stuff in hsr so it was easier to pwoercreep
but idk
runic ether
the only good 4 stars in hsr are serval, pela, gallagher, hunt march (kinda), moze (kinda)
serval is only good because she is a stand in for the better characters for therta
dull bridge
but like iirc
runic ether
pela is sussy as hell rn and arguably not good
technically tingyun works? for saber and phainon
dull bridge
ting used to be mandatory in older teams
runic ether
but shes not great
runic ether
qingque is fine in theory
runic ether
her dps peaks are just not there compared to archer
dull bridge
where he is still mega powerful
runic ether
and hes free so
dull bridge
so like, is it because most of the newer genshin characters are damage
cause thats the fun new flashy abilities
runic ether
like ting felt like benett
tingyun never had bennett's swag
her issues were plain to see in comparison
dull bridge
tingyun never had bennett's swag
well yeah, but she felt equivlient ish at a level
runic ether
vs bennett who really has no flaws
dull bridge
i know muhc more limited pool
but like idk
like
have there been new good supports
in genshin
like i want to asume zhong is still fine?
maybe im wrong tho
runic ether
zhongli is bad
dull bridge
damn ok
do u just not need defense anymore?
well i feel u didnt always need it
but like is it def not needed anymore
runic ether
the best supports in genshin have been citlali for specifically pyro dps characters, xilonen i guess? shes pretty generic but not bad to have. and the current best is escoffier
dull bridge
who?
runic ether
who is specifically hydro/cryo exclusive
runic ether
no
dull bridge
ok yeah
i played thru fontaine on og release then stopped
havent oipened game since
but i wanna again at some point
to finish up story
runic ether
chevreuse c6 is stronger than ever
runic ether
i guess u can count ineffa as top tier "support"
actually yeah u have to count ineffa
since escoffier also does a fuck ton of damage like ineffa does
dull bridge
what do teams look like in genshin anywayd
dps sustain element activator dmg buff?
i mean like for element if u need like lightning to superhcarge or smt
is that shit still good
like the hyudrobloom
with ninja lightning lady
megabloom
whatever it was caled
runic ether
dps/enabler/support/sustain
runic ether
shes like zhongli's shields mixed with fischl's off field
dull bridge
and fontaine
dull bridge
shes like zhongli's shields mixed with fischl's off field
thats stupid
runic ether
but she also has lunar electro charge as a reaction enabling
dull bridge
lmao
runic ether
which is electro charge but it crits
dull bridge
so is shogun now crept for lightning enable?
dull bridge
are any old dps good or is really just the rly old suppots that were super strong and still super strong
runic ether
the only pre-natlan dps characters that stand up to current dps is arlecchino, who is objectively weaker than mauvika in the same role and clorinde same deal
(not weaker than mauvika just weaker than varesa)
oh and neuvilette
dull bridge
oh neuv was always cvoo
cool
but like those were both fontaine
so no sumeru or pre are good
dull bridge
:(
runic ether
it'll be a pain
dull bridge
but like story is still ez?
i should be able to clear with eula and fishcl and idfk
whoever
dull bridge
oh one more question
runic ether
no?
dull bridge
forgot
runic ether
c6
dull bridge
ok
runic ether
yeah its intended
dull bridge
yeah i know
runic ether
they didnt like it bc there was niche teams it hurt
runic ether
no
dull bridge
ok
summer hornet
Considered grabbing these two, but I don’t have Stainless and I still like Ines’ e2 art just a bit more
long tree
in the livestream they plan to extend the story scope to make genshin last for a...
We gonna pivot from ass to giga ass story
runic ether
part 1 of natlan was pretty solid
dull bridge
We gonna pivot from ass to giga ass story
i mean to me the story has been like fine... but adding more is just gonna make it worse i feel
dull bridge
the question will be how do they fuck it up
oversaturating it methinks
glossy latch
Wait they actually want to extend Genshins story by a decade?
dull bridge
causew like they will just add so much it becomes bad
runic ether
Wait they actually want to extend Genshins story by a decade?
yep
digital marlin
dull bridge
😭
digital marlin
Finally
runic ether
me neither
dull bridge
I dont see any way to extend this story for that long
by adding a bunch of bad shit
watering down story
summer hornet
I mean, it's easier for HSR imo
summer hornet
Just add a half dozen side planets
dull bridge
in the nitty gritty
glossy latch
Yeah because HSR barely has an overarching plot and an intentionally open world (universe)
Genshin ... doesnt?
Like I get how you would continue after finishing this story
But extending it is just
Odd
runic ether
yeah
dull bridge
:[
im like doing story rn
fighting nikador
and like
imma be so real
i aint taking too much into consideration of what he does
because he cant do any dmg thru my aven shields
and acheron ult is one shotting each phase
just feelsd weird cause i just played through clair obscur
where ieach boss that was ahrd i had to fight multiple times
and now here
glossy latch
Oh apparently Manato is actually good now
Good for me, Im already aiming to get him and Lucia
runic ether
he is extremely good yeah
oh some pretty neat enemy desi- nemo from library of ruina!?
glossy latch
Watch me not get a single Manato 🙃
Also they changed Lucias design slightly
... I genuinely am not sure why
runic ether
runic ether
Watch me not get a single Manato 🙃
free from monthly shop after the version ends... i guess
his m6 did get nerfed and m4?
so he really just needs m3
slow raft
funny skeleton man
summer hornet
When does the 3.7 beta start?
runic ether
a few days into 3.6
summer hornet
Man
I'll toss my pulls at SW and Archer then
Hopefully I get e2 on one of them sooner rather than later
dull bridge
i got a crackhead theory ||oronyz or whatver is saying mother after traveler took picture of oronyz with MARCH camera, so match is oronyx morther im so smart this is gonna be proven true after i continue story just ened to say it||
||and the vision with mem has marches memories||
summer hornet
dull bridge
||or is this related to elio...||
WAIT
thats it
||but the freezing makes me think more of mach||
||the mention of script really makes me think more of elio though, maybe elio and march are related, 
||
slow raft
dull bridge
@runic ether is it more important for luocha or rmc to hvae better artis
with speed and such
runic ether
just keep grinding
dull bridge
im going to
runic ether
worry about that later
copper steppe
the farms call
runic ether
old galleon
done a few fire m3 runs today, so far i've gotten only 2 needless axe drops
exalto staves are gonna take forever at this rate
mental acorn
the music remains stellar as always
and man they're really gearing up for some heavy shit it's only 15-3 why do you have to drop so many flags
I like the simulation bit that's a neat spin on challenge mode
mental acorn
I'd very much like to try reed s3 on 15-9 but I think my emulator might explode
mental acorn
ah fuck here we go
jesus they really went all in on this
just loaded into a stage and instead of one of the usual tips it just said "It's quiet... Don't leave me here."
You did not forget me.
pastel bear
schizophrenia
lusty egret
Owo
summer hornet
If it wasn't for you switching accounts I could grab screenshots if you doing the exact same thing lol
Pot and kettle
I say this fully aware that I myself am a dented teapot
Also also also
I am currently going back and forth between Canto 4 and Chapter 9 in Arknights
- There is zero heterosexual explanation for this
- this is massively, royally, deeply fucked up and I didn’t think Arknights would commit to it
mental acorn
15-13 after is so fucking hype
summer hornet
Also explains why I was so baffled by the entire Reed sibling plot line, it was because it was meant to follow a story chapter I hadn’t started rofl
mental acorn
2) this is massively, royally, deeply fucked up and I didn’t think Arknights wou...
horrible war crimes for everyone 
runic ether
1) There is zero heterosexual explanation for this
meursault banger to word count ratio is unmatched
summer hornet
He's so deadpan and taciturn that it fooled me at first, but he's actually hilarious
runic ether
limbus has a really smart sense of humor across the board
old galleon
2) this is massively, royally, deeply fucked up and I didn’t think Arknights wou...
generally speaking, if you don't expect arknights to commit tos omething, it'll probably end up committing to it at some point
story goes pretty hard
summer hornet
My first thought was "interdimensional clowns", and I remembered that there's a giant portal of some kind in the North ☠️
But seriously
||they carpet bombed a city with ORIGNIUM BOMBS||
runic ether
interdimensional clowns
i didnt know gubo and jia huan were in arknights
old galleon
||they carpet bombed a city with ORIGNIUM BOMBS||
||would you expect anything less||
||the fuck's a war crime||
mental acorn
My first thought was "interdimensional clowns", and I remembered that there's a ...
well, the names of the things that come out of the gate start with c so that's close enough
you know what else starts with c? cognitohazard 
runic ether
cock
versed pawn
actually unbelievable that Qiyuan has harder animations then galbrena
pastel bear
210 SQ dropped on Castoria, no dice
I can maybe squeeze 90 more out before her banner ends but that's chewing into my savings
feels really bad to spend this much and not get anything back
the good news is that I'm completely uninterested in everything for the next year after this
so after Castoria's banner ends I'm probably just gonna be saving up for Aesc and Oberon's rerun
copper steppe
aye i feel you mate
it does feel like shit
speaking for many years of experience
astral drift
https://x.com/getmoneyghoul/status/1968143166470791520
very cute
slow raft
canto 8 spoiler
||https://vxtwitter.com/them_failure/status/1965488685878837744||
mental acorn
15-16 ||THE VILE DEMON APPEARS 
||
slow raft
X
silver osprey
Bro the deployment drone isn't even categorized as a drone wtf
HG just doesn't want me to use glaucus at all
idle grove
X
mental acorn
what a fucking chapter
old galleon
what a fucking chapter
fgo-ass ending screen
astral drift
old galleon
daishouri indeed
slow raft
X
summer hornet
Omedetou!!!
toxic cloud
runic ether
runic ether
smh and ppl complain about my gacha luck
digital marlin
you do it with out effort and consistently
runic ether
nemodion would be fucking peak
slow raft
meursault should be martina tbh
silver osprey
||Gah the antichrist is here||
mental acorn
||down with the evil one 
||
glossy latch
@digital marlin ... so the middle floors are meant to be high investment targets right?
Because my Augusta could not 3* those
digital marlin
i havent even looked at those yet so i cant
glossy latch
Oh I thought you had already done those
digital marlin
nah was planning to wait for the banners to appear and work on my teams before een touch it
glossy latch
Also yeah turns out you were right, Augusta is actually doing just fine with these stats
glossy latch
... wait how does Augusta actually work
Im just pressing buttons
Oh no thats just how you play her
Gotcha
versed pawn
Floor 3 and 4 have heavy attack buffs when shielded
And Augusta gets shields when's she attacks
Was actually close for me still don't loek the need 4th team addition
glossy latch
Yeah I dont think I can 3* them tbh
old galleon
granblue is unplayable right nwo and i'm hearing priconne and uma have the same issue
someone nuked cygames lol
old galleon
people already memeing about fighter origin killing cygames
since that was supposed to release today in japan
old galleon
issue at their data center, apparently
gbf, priconne, uma (jp) at minimum are affected, idk about global uma or shadowverse
astral drift
summer hornet
This is really clever, nice
Also glad it doesn't use years as a filter category like the HSR and Genshin Wordles do
old galleon
gbf is officially in maintenance
gonna need some long djeetas or something at this rate
summer hornet
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I literally uncapped him on a whim right before this fight lmao
||AND IT WAS RIGHT AFTER THE OTHER TECH LIBERATION GUY SAID “IN THE FUTURE I’LL MAKE IT EASIER FOR GUYS LIKE YOU TO JOIN US” (ADLIBBING OBVS)||
||AND THEN SHE USED SUNSHOWER INSTEAD, AND IT ALSO HAD SINKING||
||NGL Samjo was a smarmy brat up until his very last scene, but I still felt really bad for him going out the way he did. And Dongrang just being like “oh well, we’ll remember him” was just. Wow (derogatory)(, like wtf man)||
||I’m probably going to have to reread the prologue after this because we keep getting unsubtle callbacks to the moment the Sinners were bound to Dante, on some FGO Crypter rebirth type shenanigans, but I barely remember it at all lol||
Arknights’ ||Joan of Arc is here, and she’s baller af. Also, I haven’t said it at all before now, but Outcast is like. UNBEARABLY cool; I’m imagining her having a voice like Grayson from Arcane. In a complimentary way||
runic ether
||NGL Samjo was a smarmy brat up until his very last scene, but I still felt rea...
||samjo is a really interesting character because he represents the average feather. maybe a bit more dedicated than others, but still a rather "typical" person who lives in the nest.||
also man
||i was reminded of how fun that was to see dongbaek using "lobotomy ego.||
summer hornet
||I haven't played Library of Ruina or Lobotomy Corporation, but it was still a really fun fight. Had to borrow you guys' Heishou Hong Lu supports, but I cleared it in one go- I don't think I'd have managed without him lmao||
summer hornet
runic ether
||I haven't played Library of Ruina or Lobotomy Corporation, but it was still a ...
||lord hong lu is a particularly busted id. being able to be immortal in 2 different ways is particularly fun||
summer hornet
||Plus the ability to string together consecutive ally AOEs with Heishous||
runic ether
i see the burn team
summer hornet
It just lined up lol
runic ether
no its like actually not a bad idea to go into it like that lol
lord hong lu can do so much
summer hornet
Heishou Sinclair was what made me decide to use the Liu South IDs to get to 7 people
Since he can use both, and I was already running Magic Bullet Outis
Also
runic ether
magic bullet is strong enough to carry
even tho her full potential is only unlocked with the ego
summer hornet
||wtffff, I knew he was shady but my perspective of the entire Singularity is being flipped on its head rn||
runic ether
||effloresced ego letsfuckinggoooo||
old galleon
gbf maintenance is over
toxic cloud
torn harbor
Very exciting time for Wizardry Daphne
The "meta" has been turned on its head with a single update cause they buffed how good 2 handed weapons are and they scale gorgeously now
dull bridge
@runic ether my brains been going, am i crazy to stop farming for algega and that crackehad team thats gonna take so many resources, and instead use that farm for rmc and pull phainon on rerun? because i already have his 2nd best lightcone and a rly good ting wit like 170 spd and bronya and i can do phainon rmc ting bronya... or should i continue the algegleglalea farm, or should I oull evernight because evernight is support and I dont have any good supports and I only pull dps
cause i feel having a phainon team and acheron team feel pretty future proof, like acheron still feels insane as im using her now in moc pf and apoc and shes old now ig
slow raft
X
silver osprey
Gregor should've just been normal
long tree
Gregor should have his bug limb be a regular human arm
runic ether
<@480437470870110209> my brains been going, am i crazy to stop farming for algeg...
bro... just keep grinding.. theres a double event even
dull bridge
bro... just keep grinding.. theres a double event even
i am going to keep grinding, but like i ngl like phainon design more but idk i just feel i wuld rather play with phanion at more power since his bis dosent like well hes more f2p friendly then alegea
old galleon
fighter origin requires 30 of each m3 omega anima as part of the origin unlock quest series
this means i can't farm fire m3 right now
bc the raids are so damn full it's pointless to try to blue chest
great
summer hornet
old galleon
<:nukgar:1232064229373378712>
m3 anima ended being one of the easier parts of the overall grind
unlocking origin classes themselves isn't hard, but the uncap mats are brutal
every 10 levels you need to feed the class more mats
the third uncap (not even the last one!) needs 3 eternity sand
Prerequisites: All Row V classes at Level 20, Quest on Zinkenstill
Row 1 Evolution unlock (First-time only):
These mats will not be required again!!! It is only the first time.
- Stage 1: 30x6 Island Mats
- Stage 2: 30x6 M2 Omega Anima
- Stage 3: 30x6 M3 Omega Anima
- Stage 4: 30x6 Six Dragons Mats
- Stage 5: 30 Ultima Units, 30 Tears of the Apocalypse, 30 Cunning Horns, 30 Abyssal Wings
Fighter Origin Uncap 1:
- 80 Gladiator Distinctions
- 1500 Sword Stones
- 1500 Axe Stones
- 250 Blue Sky Crystals
- 80 Silver Centrums
- 250 Genesis Fragments
Fighter Origin Uncap 2:
- 80x2 Dusk/Dawn Anima
- 100 Silver Sword Shard
- 100 Silver Axe Shard
- 150 Legendary Merits
- 10 Damascus Crystals
- 200 Immortal Fragment
Fighter Origin Uncap 3:
- 3 Eternity Sand
- 1 Ultimacy's Dawn
- 1 Ultimacy's Star
- 1 Ultimacy's Dewdrop
Fighter Origin Uncap 4: (Good luck!)
- 1 Heavenwake Sphere (300 Valor Badges)
- 25 Tome of Martial Secrets
- 25 Tome of Esoteric Secrets
- 25 Tome of Virtuosic Secrets
up to the third uncap the mats aren't that bad, but 3 sand is annoying
the ultimacy mats aren't too bad but do need a cp investment on top of what you already needed to invest
but uhh
so the mat that costs 300 valor badges was already known
what wasn't known was that it'd also need 25 of each of the mastery raid gold tomes
i guess the saving grace is that these aren't hexa or faa0 mats
but it's still annoying
and there'll theoretically be 10 of these classes : ^)
slow raft
X
silver osprey
Limbus x AK trailer should be tomorrow I think
maiden veldt
yay
slow raft
Limbus x AK trailer should be tomorrow I think
yeah thats the usual timing
with the info on monday
runic ether
https://x.com/slampuppi/status/1968353124172853723
yeah she would be into mastodon
glossy latch
Hmmm
Yknow Ive realised, gachas tend to have the worldbuilding be relative seperate from the story as it were, dont they?
old galleon
a lot of gachas have significant worldbuilding in side stories, events, or other content that isn't the main story
pretty standard at this point, ye
hell, some even have their main stories told through events (azur lane lmao)
glossy latch
That too but its like specifically that the concepts introduced in the worldbuilding tend to be relatively adjacent to the main story
HSR is the only one I can think of where thats mostly not the case
runic ether
limbus company's world building is tied quite heavily to the story as necessitated due to dante's amnesia and how each sinner is tied to certain districts
glossy latch
That doesnt surprise me too much
But like, ZZZs entire hollow concept (and at this point Fairy as a concept) has barely even come up beyond being vaguely related to the cults motivation
And the mechanics behind resonators tend to go under a little in WuWa
rapid bough
nikke intertwines its world with its story pretty closely
plenty of main story beats rely on aspects of the world built previously either in the main story or in an event
runic ether
you know
zzz's story/world is basically mirroring limbus/project moon
its such a stark contrast in how much stronger limbus writing is bc they both share a very similar premise
last city in the world, the outside is incompatible for humanity/extremely difficult for them
but the city in project moon's work is significantly more antagonistic to... everything
slow raft
i think that one is a difference in tone i think
glossy latch
Has Fairy even been relevant at all in the 2.x chapters?
slow raft
i do agree that pms writing is stronger tho
rapid bough
Has Fairy even been relevant at all in the 2.x chapters?
i wouldn't use the word "relevant" but she's popped up a few times for dialogue and to alert the proxies to certain things
runic ether
yeah zzz's tone is def more bright
glossy latch
ZZZ barely even feels like its post-apocalyptic
rapid bough
kinda depends on how deep you get into the lore tbh
i thought the 2.2 story was pretty dark
glossy latch
Moreso from the general vibe
rapid bough
i mean yeah sure it generally keeps a pretty upbeat tone
but it's largely nailed the serious moments when it wants to as well
runic ether
ZZZ barely even feels like its post-apocalyptic
limbus doesnt either very often if it doesnt want to
it can but it doesnt
slow raft
limbus hones more in on the dystopia than the post apocalypse
rapid bough
nikke also doesn't really until it drops a fucking reality check depression bomb on you out of nowhere to remind you that everything sucks
glossy latch
Like WuWas 1.0 story was bad
But at least the world actually felt post-apocalyptic
I think its because its a lobby-based game and the hollows dont feel very ... memorable as locations?
runic ether
hollows could easily have been made more threatening is my big point vs zzz's story/world
rapid bough
kinda depends on where you are in the ZZZ world
walking through lumina square or sixth street, yeah no post-apocalypse vibes really at all
glossy latch
Yeah and thats fine on paper
But lumina square and sixth street are almost all you get to see of the world
rapid bough
going to failume heights or ballet twins and looking at the fucking massive hollows in the distance? pretty different
glossy latch
And theyre far more memorable than the hollows you get to play in
rapid bough
also i can't remember if it's in a cinematic or actually in-game but the moon is covered in hollows too which looks quite eerie
glossy latch
But eh, ZZZ has some early instalment weirdness
But yeah WuWa has some absolutely fascinating worldbuilding regarding physics as a whole being out of whack and the world being kinda topsy turvy in how it works
But it only sometimes comes up
Its a bit of a shame
Granted the one time they delved deeper into some of it was in a dogshit side event soooo
rapid bough
ZZZ has a ton of subtle worldbuilding details, like everything that gives it the "retro" feel from the importance and type of music to the film motifs
very little of it is actually addressed in the story, but it's all there sorta just in the background
runic ether
i think if hollows were as dangerous as distortions and abnormalities in pjm, it'd be of benefit to the world of zzz
of course, shouldnt be nearly as... depressing
glossy latch
Like the launch characters all had clearly film genre inspiration
And most of 1.x did too (minus stars of lyra tbh)
But 2.x ... havent mostly
runic ether
but having a hollow disaster on the level of the pianist, which killed some 200k ppl when it happened, would be a lot more... threatening
glossy latch
Unless Spook Shack are japanese horror inspired specifically
runic ether
its scooby doo
glossy latch
Conceptually sure but visually they dont ... really have that vibe?
glossy latch
But yeah just something that came to mind
Mostly because of WuWa and stuff like overclocking ... not coming up at all
slow raft
but having a hollow disaster on the level of the pianist, which killed some 200k...
all that noise for something thats not even an aleph
glossy latch
Fortes at least still matter
runic ether
its a fucking waw is crazy
glossy latch
Between Phrolovas composition and Cristoforos storytelling
slow raft
its a fucking waw is crazy
actual queen of hatred victim
glossy latch
Still cant believe one of the villains abilities is basically writing fanfiction that become reality
... yknow I was trying to exaggerate for comedic effect there but Im realising that that is literally how it works
old galleon
The deed is started
summer hornet
Whose brilliant idea was it to make a STRONGER Ort
summer hornet
Was the first pseudo-immortal planet-assimilating lifeform not enough of a threat
slow raft
i forgot that the sr selector is limited so now i need to hurry and i am having a real hard time narrowing it down lmao
runic ether
lip
summer hornet
Lmfaoooo
slow raft
Lip has a pretty fun kit but idk if im that into the bbs
runic ether
im surprised there are summer sr characters
digital marlin
i think zzz just needs the characters to really experience some true loss
What exactly do you mean by that?
slow raft
im surprised there are summer sr characters
Well yeah, gotta have an sr for every ssr banner
runic ether
What exactly do you mean by that?
proxies should face a massive loss that causes a lot of pain to the cast in some capacity
digital marlin
im surprised there are summer sr characters
The event stories revolve around the servants so they need a couple of them for the story that aside
summer hornet
Tristan, Fujino, Percival, Wu Zetian or Kriemhild would be my suggestions
Aside from Passionlip
runic ether
knowing nothing about these characters, kriemhild sounds interesting
digital marlin
I can't imagine what kinda of big loss proxies can really suffer since they technically speaking only have themselves and fairies at their core group and really don't have much outside of fairy themselves
slow raft
kriemhild was my top pick tbh
runic ether
I can't imagine what kinda of big loss proxies can really suffer since they tech...
playable character death(s) of course
summer hornet
The event stories revolve around the servants so they need a couple of them for ...
But yeah, it's uncommon that we get only a 5star introduced without either a 4star, 3star, or welfare to accompany them
runic ether
even if it will never happen from hoyo
summer hornet
Shes a really good DPS lol
slow raft
on the other hand
summer erice is a limited char
summer hornet
Pretty sure Summer Erice had issues with the instant death timing last I heard?
slow raft
doesnt the instant death only matter if its before damage?
summer hornet
NVM then lol
idle grove
knowing nothing about these characters, kriemhild sounds interesting
summer kriemhilde moment
old galleon
instant death being before damage cripples lancer erice's looping consistency
it needs to be after damage
slow raft
summer erices isnt before damage
idle grove
og kriem is great too
runic ether
summer kriemhilde moment
why is she a vampire
idle grove
a shark actually
runic ether
no like why is she so pale
digital marlin
That's just her style
idle grove
yeah thats just how it be
slow raft
no like why is she so pale
german
idle grove
many such cases
runic ether
i see
glossy latch
summer kriemhilde moment
Thats ... a very confusing outfit
idle grove
how so
slow raft
shark
glossy latch
Half shark onesie half what I would describe as stripper and then the random solitary stocking that is connected to the shoe (?)
idle grove
it's a summer outfit of course she's in a bikini 😔
glossy latch
Ok but then why the half shark onesie
Surely youd sell more if you have one outfit thats full bikini and one thats full shark onesie
old galleon
shark
https://prd-game-a-granbluefantasy.akamaized.net/assets_en/img/sp/assets/weapon/b/1040615200.png shaaaark?
idle grove
also it's cute
idle grove
says me
slow raft
kriemhild, in this case
idle grove
I would fucking die if I wore any onesie at the beach
glossy latch
Krill issue
idle grove
glossy latch
(There is in fact one type of shark that eats krill, I double checked)
slow raft
narrowed it down some more
old galleon
if all of those are for np1 of a servant, edison gives you access to a bleached earth coin node using nito/2x koyan/edison so that you don't have to run some double douman comp or whatever
but that's the only meaningful use case i can think of for him
slow raft
yeah theyre all np1
summer hornet
You've already got one of the Merlins right?
slow raft
ive got lady avalon yea
wispy goblet
people really smelling that the RE collab before anni based on the newspaper teasers Nikke has been posting
Allegedly one of the barcodes says "Evil is near" if you scan it
wispy goblet
If the RE collab is indeed before anniversary, I hope they announce it officially before the end of the rerun banner so I can make more informed pulling decisions
dull bridge
ok
am i crazy to say
mem
is giving me paimon flashbacks
the tone of voice is similar
and its slowly driving me insane
slow raft
X
pastel bear
do you think ahab would make you wear the whale costume to bed
runic ether
do you think ahab would make you wear the whale costume to bed
god i hope so
runic ether
spitting
https://x.com/xeranthe_txt/status/1965677501507928107
ahab is objectively hot
slow raft
you know all the so called "hag enjoyers" are fakers because they use outis instead of ahab
(did you know that name stands for assigned hag at birth?)
runic ether
outis is good yes
but she is like 40
isnt moses like nearing 50? now thats another "hag"
once im done with library im digging in to leviathan and distortion detective with a bias towards dd cus moses is fucking peak
slow raft
isnt moses like nearing 50? now thats another "hag"
moses is p neat yea
https://x.com/misg1111/status/1967653844944589242
X
runic ether
pastel bear
I need her but not in a sexual way, I need a detective to find my lost cat in a village in the alps
runic ether
honestly love this thing and i know little about it
slow raft
i need her
slow raft
honestly love this thing and i know little about it
its just a silly little dog, very adorable
runic ether
ezra is good too but shes not a near 50 woman smoking a pipe with a permanently tired look in her eyes who has clearly seen way too much shit at this point
dull bridge
i love this dude he was in phainon trailer
slow raft
WHAT
WHAT
WHAT
I HUATE AMPROERPEHTOUIS
dull bridge
wha happen
||trinnon die||
neon ore
rapid bough
If the RE collab is indeed before anniversary, I hope they announce it officiall...
consider it announced
rapid bough
oh
wispy goblet
the RE collab units might not
rapid bough
oh the summer and winter units will absolutely be back
rapid bough
the only current limited rerun worth your mileage is summer anis and you already pulled her
helm is niche at best and the rest are bad
you save
mental acorn
wispy goblet
X
rapid bough
RE girls looking pretty good in nikke art style
probably gonna be a much more by the numbers collab than stellar blade was, but i will be cautiously optimistic
i assume the newspaper teasers they were releasing about the disappearances in the ark are tie-ins to the RE collab which is encouraging
the stellar blade collab excelled primarily because it tied in directly to the nikke world, if they can do that again with RE it should at least be acceptable... but considering nikke and RE have far less overlap i doubt it will be quite as extensive a crossover lol
rapid bough
VO sounds kinda flat, especially from ada, but i'll reserve judgment until i hear it in-game
it'll be cool if we even get a VO, so far the only collab that's been fully voiced is stellar blade
wispy goblet
saw the D: Killer Wife skin
rapid bough
gacha skin pog
D keeps winning
prolly a skip tho, base D:KW is still so peak
my wallet is always happy when i can skip a gacha skin lol
summer hornet
So the Canto IV dungeon requires me to use my own Yi Sang. I can get a bunch of leveling mats from the event shop; should I level the OG or this other one?
wispy goblet
I'm tempted
I'm gonna have to do my budget calcs
runic ether
So the Canto IV dungeon requires me to use my own Yi Sang. I can get a bunch of ...
seven yi sang is p solid
hes fast, clashes solidly
not the biggest damage
and he has good debuffs
rapid bough
just read someone got 40k on miasma priest this DA with yixuan m0w1/pan/fufu
best i can do is like 35k... oof
i'm thinking one of these days i'm gonna have to learn manual chain attacks
summer hornet
seven yi sang is p solid
Sounds Gucci; I’ll get him to uncap III asap
rapid bough
seems like every pro gamer that's maximizing points uses manual chains
rapid bough
just read someone got 40k on miasma priest this DA with yixuan m0w1/pan/fufu
occurs to me they might have m6 pan though and i don't
i don't think i have any pan dupes lol
runic ether
Sounds Gucci; I’ll get him to uncap III asap
if possible, utpie 4 is where he truly shines
but thats a fair bit of mats for just an okay id
pastel bear
So the Canto IV dungeon requires me to use my own Yi Sang. I can get a bunch of ...
I'm disappointed
but I suppose not everyone is willing to have the same dedication to my glorious bird king as I do
runic ether
if you have the shards, i'd shard liu yi sang as you already have a bit of a burn team going
and i dont believe there's content u cant clear in this game with a burn team
summer hornet
*if* possible, utpie 4 is where he truly shines
Yeah I don't have a single uptie 4 lmao
runic ether
dw about uptie 4 yet
summer hornet
Yeah, eventually lol
runic ether
i'd just grab liu yi sang if u can then
okay theoretically, the best id u can grab for yi sang is ring pointillist student
its best in bleed, but not exclusive to bleed
and synergy does matter in this game
summer hornet
B r u h
runic ether
ye
but i wouldnt rely on it
always best to bring your own invested
btw how's your ishmael ids looking
summer hornet
Ahahaahahahaha
I've not rolled since Walpurgis in anticipation of the Arknights collab
So I don't have a ton of stuff
runic ether
ah fair fair
ur bound to get some 000 ids in the collab unless ur goated
and more shards of course
shi ish isnt bad at all though
neither is butler ish
butler ish is just outclassed but not bad
summer hornet
I used Butler in Mirror Dungeon once, which is why she's uptie 3
Or is that 2
Still
runic ether
thats 2
but still same deal
butler ish isnt bad
molar boatworks ish is just straight up better though
which... okay kind of makes it worse given the fact that ultimately, u can just grind out and get any id pretty freely
summer hornet
Lmaooo
runic ether
but i'd def wanna get my hands on an 000 ish id
special shoutouts to zwei ish
tanky af
molar ish is also goated
but shes a sinking monster more than anything
liu ishmael also exists for burn
if you are going in on the magic bullet outis theme
summer hornet
So Heishou Lord Hong Lu, Ring Pointillist Yi Sang, and Liu Ishmael
summer hornet
if you are going in on the magic bullet outis theme
I probably will
runic ether
lord hong lu is so fucking cool man
even tho i do love his full stop id
but thats walpurgis
runic ether
So Heishou Lord Hong Lu, Ring Pointillist Yi Sang, and Liu Ishmael
ring pointillist if you are gonna do bleed
otherwise i'd actually opt for synergy
summer hornet
Walpurgis will be right after Arknights, right?
summer hornet
ring pointillist if you are gonna do bleed
Poise, Burn and Rupture have appealed the most so far, I'd say (not a surprise, given the 000s I've started with lol). Sinking is neat too, albeit with the caveat of these negative coin bosses ☠️
runic ether
sinking is my main
its a lot of fun
but its kind of expensive from scratch
burn has some solid scrappy easy to get units
rapid bough
new ZZZ db website like hakushin popped up https://zzz.hoyobase.com/?lang=en&branch=release
i like the layout more than hakushin and it seems faster
so that's nice
runic ether
sinking needs one or both yi sang sinking ids
one of which is walpurgis
butler faust technically? tho shes 00
wild hunt heath
knight of despair rodya
walpurgis as well
dieci hong lu, edgar family gregor
molar ish
butler ish works there too
and all this so that yeah they will all immediately betray you when facing a negative coin boss/enemies
sinking can beat them. it isnt pretty though
the only burn units you wouldnt be able to grab would be firefist gregor and lce faust
both of which are fantastic but not needed
meursault has a goated af burn id in thumb capo meursault which also can cover tremor but actually is insane as a standalone id in general thanks to his bullet mechanics
lord hong lu has 1 in his skill 1 and his base skill 3 is unbreakable
but thumb meursault can make all his skills unbreakable
wispy goblet
pastel bear
YES
glossy latch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWzgwpiesoE
Wait
Isn't Fuli meant to be alive still?
idle grove
👀
silver osprey
I'm gonna have to pick between fluid sac or Kal ego fml
At least we can finally get rid of garden of thorns for Gregor since Młynar is a WAW
dull bridge
ok i just finished the one where myedei becomes ||god|| now how many more patches before i catchj up
2? 3?
i woud love to catch up before next patch
dull bridge
i want 50% crit rate on jingliu right
cause i get the other 50% from my talent?
i want 50% cr and then stack as muhc cd as posibl
mystic python
Yeah 50, if you have Sunday he gives 20 so you'd have her on 30 instead
Stack HP rather than cdmg, and use a HP chest instead of crit
Assuming you're using the updated kit, not the old one
silver osprey
X
slow raft
dull bridge
Stack HP rather than cdmg, and use a HP chest instead of crit
oh thats new shit
gonna need a hp chest now
timber sigil
runic ether
https://x.com/Marile_fanatic/status/1968981082180612290
danteh...