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slow raft
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Knight of despair is obviously heathcliff, idk what youre talking about

honest pawn
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but heathcliff already haaaaaaas a walpurgis ID

vernal snow
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Let the people without ids get some

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She needs it

slow raft
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Rodion already got red shoes, i fear

timber sigil
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this game is actually taunting me

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Jiangyu is right there

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let me fucking obtain her

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AAAAA

runic ether
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crazy aura

astral drift
slow raft
slow raft
runic ether
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well guess i have some free time. time to start canto 5

honest pawn
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PEAK IS BACK ON THE TABLE

runic ether
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you said that about the last canto (it was very good)

honest pawn
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what if I told you each canto outdoes the one before it

runic ether
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that would be kinda crazy

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but

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it'd make sense

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oh duh okay i feel dumb every time i remember that outis was the name odysseus used when talking to the cyclops and whenever outis acts in behaviors and ways im like why the-

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oh right

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man i love gregor but did he really have to jinx this journey this way

slow raft
honest pawn
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yeah 7 was a bit of a letdown

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but we ball nonetheless

glossy latch
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I swear Im gonna get M6 Pulchra before I get a single Panda

slow raft
slow raft
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And i alreqdy had her m6

runic ether
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well at least if u want pan, hes guaranteed next patch from the 4 star selector shop

rapid bough
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m0 pan and m1 pulchra and gonna stay that way because i ain't buying a 4 star selector

glossy latch
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Id also rather not tbh

slow raft
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No shot it costs real money

rapid bough
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no lol it costs 140 of the signal currency you get from pulling

glossy latch
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Ye

rapid bough
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but i could be getting 7 more pulls with that currency

runic ether
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its totally free yea it just gives up 7 pulls

glossy latch
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So the equivalent of 7 pulls

runic ether
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but, a guaranteed 4 star is 10 pulls

slow raft
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Oh they want you to give up the good currency for that icant

rapid bough
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but i ain't pulling for 4 stars

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i'm pulling for the S rank agent

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the 4 star guarantee is just a bonus lol

glossy latch
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Am I misremembering or does ZZZ not give out free 4* very often?

runic ether
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they cycle it like genshin

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4 star -> wengine -> bangboo -> 4 star

slow raft
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Guess im to used to using the bad currency from arknights

runic ether
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we are on wengine

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we just got a bangboo

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next patch should be a free 4 star

rapid bough
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kamano manato moment

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or w/e his name is

glossy latch
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They better give me the panda

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If I dont get him

runic ether
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probably a lighter situation

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komano right before orpheus

slow raft
runic ether
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is it an official community discord even?

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lol

slow raft
honest pawn
rapid bough
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it was meant to be

runic ether
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also his tits jiggle way too much to not be an s rank

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hes the biggest and most muscular man hoyo has made in all their games among playables

rapid bough
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he do be an absolute unit

runic ether
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autism be damned meursault always comes in with the funniest commentary whenever needed

slow raft
slow raft
runic ether
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hes not my fave but damn i kinda like all of them a lot anyways.

rapid bough
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so it's not guaranteed

runic ether
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pulchra gets the full furry debuff

rapid bough
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she's a big titted flirty furry

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that's not a debuff

runic ether
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u know who is likely to be an a rank though? damian

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he was in the playables trailer

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but his model doesnt inspire s rank

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despite it being possible hes among the most important characters in this patch cycle

rapid bough
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ye shiyuan is also a wild card

runic ether
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right

rapid bough
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he has NPC/future death/future baddie energy and idk which

runic ether
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hes probably related to the character we couldnt see the face of

rapid bough
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"baddie" in the antagonist sense

runic ether
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ye shenguang

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iirc

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they have very similar hair

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and thiren features

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plus he was nowhere to be seen in trailers

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hes absolutely more important than we know rn

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but idk if villain or secret ally

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my bets on some things:

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||damian is secretly working for the mayor. i see him as kind of a male jane doe where hes purposely acting a part of a villain-ish character||

rapid bough
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||damian isn't nearly as villain-ish as jane was when she was undercover tho||

runic ether
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||ye shiyuan is related to the girl at the end of the trailer and i am betting that they will be related to a secret within the whole of yunkui summit and/or failume heights or the lemnian hollow as a whole||

rapid bough
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||in fact several NPC convos basically allude to the fact that the workers loved him (at least before the exaltists tried to frame porcelumex)||

runic ether
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||like how the mayor had contacted hugo for the whole shebang in 1.7||

rapid bough
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||idk i just don't like that it would reinforce the binary the game has seemingly fallen into, "secretly working for the mayor" or "secretly an exaltist" lol||

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||and then we get confirmation those two are actually the same thing because the mayor is an exaltist||

runic ether
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||i partially feel like this is what will be the point of confrontation between the siblings later||

rapid bough
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||bro blew up our airship, sussy baka||

runic ether
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||seems to me that the game's story, at least for 2.x, has been setting up a war between two sides. like despite all factions, these major players are the ones who had been running things in some capacity despite everyone else's best efforts||

runic ether
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||i think the thing im most suspicious about the mayor for rn is how he presented the pic of carole to the siblings with no context. hes hella baiting them. and i believe the tech he gave, may have actually come from here.||

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||at this point, it'd be more surprising if he wasnt actually a villain||

rapid bough
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||i mean it was literally the mayor's voice giving the go-ahead for sarah to shoot down our airship||

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||there's something supremely fucky going on||

runic ether
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||inb4 twin brother||

rapid bough
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||also i think dialogue at some point during the event mentions that yixuan escorting us on the airship was a last minute change on her part because she "foresaw danger". it was originally meant to be both the proxies on that airship, no yixuan||

runic ether
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ye

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that was i think

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||ye shiyuan who told us that.||

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||who told us yixuan predicted this and decided to escort one sibling herself there||

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||which i wonder if again, was meant to further awaken the proxies powers through tech carole developed. which by now, im p sure, she is the actual leader of the exaltists||

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||even tho the exaltists all have individual factions within||

rapid bough
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||there's way too much unknown about both carole and sarah as a Big Bad for them to not at least be connected||

honest pawn
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thought my discord wasn't loading correctly for a sec

runic ether
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lol

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for all its faults in execution, i do think zzz's story has the potential to be very interesting

rapid bough
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||it can't be a coincidence that the proxies are looking for their surrogate mother/mentor who allegedly caused the hollow disaster that destroyed old eridu, and now there's a big bad bitch named sarah on the other side who has exclusively remained in the shadows but is seemingly orchestrating literally everything (and has only been seen in person by a select few, notably not including the proxies)||

runic ether
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||yeah figuring out sara's motivations will be key. i dont believe her to just be pure evil||

rapid bough
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exaltists are annoyingly one-note atm

runic ether
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||though i wouldnt want her to get redeemed||

runic ether
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||like in 1.7 where dina was very much kind of on her own with her own small branch. which gives us reason to believe that the whole of the exaltists are somewhat more united on a goal but they take in smaller sects that are willing to do whatever to get results||

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||i can believe that some sects genuinely believe in helping all of humanity survive the hollows for good||

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on limbus: i am really appreciating that all the sinners who have so far experienced their traumatic cantos have come out on the other side more developed

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watching yi sang yap a lot more

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sinclair tho

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he feels like an actual character and hes been great too

simple wind
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Creechur acquired

honest pawn
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one complaint I do have with Limbus is the lack of customization

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a big part of LobCorp and Ruina that I liked was making your own little guys and gals

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like playing dress-up with dolls

versed pawn
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cant wait for the next pgrr patch

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usually not much of a reader but the latest chapter got me gripped

runic ether
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ah yes unknowable horrors from the depths

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my favorite

versed pawn
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Original theme music we made for action game: Punishing: Gray Raven

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Compose:
Music: FLuoRiTe
Mixing & Mastering: Haloweak & Hyoukuro

砺刃百炼,慑尽八荒无人握;
星隐鞘归,韬光霜淬敛刀光;
待时而动,执剑所向...

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good ol vera finally getting a new frame

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its a support tho but her movesets looks so nice

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boss theme starts at 5:05

wispy goblet
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me when I discover Zhu Yuan has an alternate fire mode used by holding down the attack button

runic ether
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wow rim is one of the coolest designed npcs in this game holy

rapid bough
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stun -> zhu yuan chain -> hold attack go brrrrrrr (ft. EX special + ult if up)

wispy goblet
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how do I do dash attacks during strings
is it direction plus space

rapid bough
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holding a directional key while you're attacking should trigger her dash attacks

wispy goblet
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weird
didn't feel like it when I was doing some material grinding

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granted I'm way overleveled for what I have unlocked so it doesn't matter too much at this juncture

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I gotta finish chapter 2 or 3 so I can take the next proxy certification

honest pawn
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I'm gonna be honest

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canto 8 spoilers ||I don't like Jia Qiu's design||

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just really boring

runic ether
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ricardo!?

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like ricardo milos??

slow raft
honest pawn
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ugh I might as well get back to limbus story

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that mersault ID is too peak

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we already know about the walpurgis stuff and it looks like a skip for me

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but it does give me time to get hong lu and mersault shards

rapid bough
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has bro been playing yixuan without playing her basic tutorial too? lord have mercy

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man i wanna open nikke and just sit at the splash screen listening to the login song since it's not accessible in the jukebox/spotify/youtube yet

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it's a vibe

slow raft
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Obvs the most you can see this is with the abnos and distrotions

rapid bough
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and that her EX has a perfect parry mechanic that you should be abusing the shit out of?

wispy goblet
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smh I can't even regular parry

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where's my drive impact

slow raft
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bro its actually so easy to hit dw about it

wispy goblet
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lemme FADC

rapid bough
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yeah yixuan's EX parry is incredibly forgiving

slow raft
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It didnt even feel like you had to time it

rapid bough
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the more important part is that after you hit it, you keep pressing EX until she does her wing explosion attack

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also does a gorillion damage + gives her a hefty adrenaline refund

wispy goblet
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also isn't she a stance character

rapid bough
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idk what you mean but she doesn't have stances that i know of

wispy goblet
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she switches between two modes
has different moves in each

rapid bough
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negative

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she has the same moveset at all times but multiple resources that give her access to various additional moves once they're maxed

wispy goblet
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smh how does she use her two different ults then

rapid bough
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e.g. a second ult when she maxes out her technique bar

wispy goblet
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smh is it literally you just ult again

rapid bough
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i mean mechanically yeah it basically is, but it's a different move with a different animation

wispy goblet
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oh it's if your tech bar is full

rapid bough
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it also gives her a point (i forget what the name is but it's something thematic) she can use on a special "fuck everything in this area" attack right after

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but you have to hold sprint to use it

wispy goblet
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Can't believe the DMC-a-like is making me do more than mash left click

rapid bough
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so it's like max technique bar -> press ult -> hold shift after ult is done to nuke everything near you

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the post-ult nuke is important since it generates a shitton of adrenaline for more EX specials/hold basics

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and is also the best CC in the game

wispy goblet
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I see

rapid bough
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brother just play the tutorial it explains all of this

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yixuan is deceptively simple and forgiving to play but you need to actually know her mechanics to make use of them lol

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frankly i think the community in general overstates how hard she is to play, people said she's harumasa level and it's like not even the same galaxy of difficulty as harumasa

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she's similar difficulty to eve imo, who is really not that hard once you get the hang of her stun combos

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then again there was that pompey fight i saw on reddit where someone had an eve/lighter/astra team and scored like 10k more points than i can with that team with the same basic gear (no dupes or eve sig)

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so maybe there's some secret tech that juices her damage bigly that i'm just not privy to and that's where the challenge really ramps up

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i did recently discover you can do a perfect EX dodge and parry to lighter on the same attack which is super nice for generating her resource + setting up lighter simultaneously

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but that's not a 10k point damage difference

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i suspect it's just a buff maintenance diff, properly setting up disk + party buffs before going into stun window can make a big difference

wispy goblet
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Randomly
Her stun build seems weirdly high for a DPS

rapid bough
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wym

slow raft
wispy goblet
# rapid bough wym

Just fiddling with her
Felt like she was building stun was faster than I expected

rapid bough
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oh you meant building stun as in accumulating it lol

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correct term is daze btw okbuddy

old galleon
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in today's episode of "new nikke server gets exclusive shit the older servers don't have right now", the arabic version of nikke is getting a free rupee skin

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also, til nikke is getting an arabic version

runic ether
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well that was a hell of a boss fight

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honestly i like this guy. i hope he doesnt bite it at the end of this canto somehow

slow raft
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the indigoat elder?

runic ether
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ricardo

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hes cool

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also first time i've seen the defeat screen

slow raft
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ricardo is based yea

runic ether
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but ultimately, manager don pulled trough when i figured out he takes 2x damage

slow raft
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i love that he literally punches the id out of you

runic ether
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all over some hair coupons

slow raft
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reasonable crashout tbh

honest pawn
runic ether
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i did somewhat lose it when yi sang was beginning to apologize over smee and hes like who

slow raft
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whomegalul

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it also helps ricardos reputation that his theme fucks

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themes actually, both middle finger toujou and middle finger battle are great

honest pawn
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it's so funny you say that

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because I hate ricardo's theme

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I can only imagine him shaking his ass violently whenever I listen to that theme

slow raft
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Canto V Story Theme
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Canto V
EPISODE 5

The Middle Finger

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honest pawn
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I do think that Ricardo is a character you really wouldn'

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t see in Ruina

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and is a big sign of a shift in tone between Ruina and Limbus

slow raft
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to much whimsy in his life yea

runic ether
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oh absolutely the theme fucks

slow raft
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ricardo was one of those roadblock fights on release but it think hes one of the few they didnt nerf

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they had "hes weak to blunt damage please guys just use blunt damage" pinned in the community discord for weeks when canto 5 was going on

honest pawn
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I've never personally gotten roadblocked in Limbus but maybe it's just because I got a lot of units

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you'll hear me say this a lot Misty but I'm a certified Library of Ruina glazer and I much prefer the fights there over Limbus'

slow raft
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the only times i was really roadblocked was funny mariachi auntie

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tho it did take me two tries to beat ricardo

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and the end of canto 7 fight i did in a sleep deprived delirium so it took me a bit

slow raft
honest pawn
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wish I could say the same but I got into limbus after that nerf so lol

runic ether
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yeah i've seen ppl say they got stuck on ricardo and against dongbaek but it wasnt too bad

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lost to ricardo bc i just didnt really understand what the gimmick was

slow raft
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dongbaek from what ive seen is like the first point in the game where you ahve to actually understand the mechanics

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like up until that point you can very easily get by with just auto combat, esp with newer units

runic ether
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win rate spam like im farming

slow raft
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so alot of people find the fight to be hard even though, realistically, its not really that hard

honest pawn
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I think my favorite Limbus fight has gotta be (spoilers for 6) ||Erlking and Catherine||

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it's on the easier side but it has so much sauce

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easy contender for number 1 has gotta be ||distorted heathcliff|| though

slow raft
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this is a very controversial opinion but im a big fan of my form empties

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obs its missing a layer compared to story fights but i like it regardless

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the ost is also very different and i like the atmosphere

honest pawn
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I've never really had a memorable abno fight in Limbus compared to Ruina

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but I've never really fought railway bosses

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wish they'd add them back as permanent content

slow raft
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well theyre rerunning mfe soon so well see how fucked that fraud is when faced with post season 1 ids lol

glossy latch
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I do have to say

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WuWa is so pretty sometimes

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Its actually really impressive how good of an eye devs have for this stuff

digital marlin
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sometimes?

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game is gorgeous

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especially Rinascita

glossy latch
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Yeah but the scourgewing quest in particular stands out

old galleon
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apparently nj is super short

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as in < 5 ft tall short

digital marlin
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what the hell

old galleon
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use this information as you will

digital marlin
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i feel lied too

old galleon
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yeah shit makes little sense to me too

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her skins def don't make her out to be that small

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but her 3d model apparently scales out such that her default skin in the 3d dorm is 4'9

rapid bough
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yeah i commented on that back up here lol

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4'9 is much shorter than even i thought she scaled to though

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i gotta assume that's not how short she actually is and the 3d dorm proportions are whack

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it's prolly not a coincidence that the other 3d dorm girls (sirius, noshiro, anchorage) are all short as well, i'd believe they just reused the same skeleton

astral drift
astral drift
old galleon
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blessed

long tree
slow raft
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Grats

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Sometimes i see ads or footage with this character and i almost consider starting the game

old galleon
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~~blue archive went full-on fantasy the last few years : ^) ~~

glossy latch
runic ether
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ahab and queeqeg are also women in this game which adds that gay tension ishmael and queeqeg had still gay good shit limbus

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also ahab looks cool as shit

rapid bough
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god the co-op changes are ultimately such a minor thing but so nice

glossy latch
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... touché

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Finally at soft pity

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So now I should get a better chance

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Noooope

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Oh well, tomorrow were getting another event

long tree
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Weapon funds

glossy latch
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I am expecting to get both her and her weapon yeah

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I just wish it wouldnt take so long >:[

long tree
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I'm at like 35 on weapon pity

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God I'm happy, for dps' I got an aero option, a havoc option, multiple spectro options, a fusion option, and a glacial option

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Only issue is I cant use aero and havoc at the same time

glossy latch
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Just learn danjin :)

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But also mood

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Its nice to have coverage ... once I get Carte

slow raft
wispy goblet
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holy
co-op is saved

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being able to AFK it is so good

runic ether
slow raft
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She still hasnt recovered from that time ishmael called out her bootlicking at the end of chapter 3

wispy goblet
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took 20 pulls
currency = saved

rapid bough
wispy goblet
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hmm
maybe instead of pulling for guillotine classic to MLB her
I will simply purchase her spare bodies with black tickets

rapid bough
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sounds reasonable

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personally i'm basically saving my standard mileage tickets for nikke 2 at this point lol

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i can't get favorite items fast enough to justify spending on LBs for those nikkes, i just wishlist and pray and between that and molds it's worked quite well so far

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and the nikkes available in the current rotation don't really matter much

wispy goblet
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I'm at 461 black tickets rn

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I'll see where I'm at when I hit 600

rapid bough
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basically waiting for them to add something else to buy with standard mileage

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i'm at over 1000 lol

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i think i've only spent standard mileage once (on one dupe when i was breaking the 200 wall)

runic ether
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wow ishmael and queequeg are as gay here as they are in the book like actually tho this is pretty crazy

rapid bough
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so my current amount of tickets represents the number of standard pulls i've done in total since starting the game, -200

runic ether
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ah but i know where this goes ultimately

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yaoi or yuri. its doomed either way.

slow raft
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Its also very funny that heathcliff of all people got the queequeg id

runic ether
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ah

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i understand that ship a bt more now

slow raft
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I mean people have been imagining them hatefucking since before chapter 1

runic ether
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hm

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i can kinda see it?

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but i see it a lot more with this

slow raft
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Yeah canto 5 does alot of work for prooer communication between the 2

honest pawn
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project moon is very queer-positive it's very nice

rapid bough
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well now i know i'm not buying the yixuan skin, since i've gotta save my monochromes for yuzuha's skin

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alice's skin is also based but i don't plan on pulling for alice so w/e

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the neon parasol and life vest raccoon in yuzuha's skin are peak

summer hornet
old galleon
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challenge her to a duel

summer hornet
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All arguments should be solved with duels, after all nyaruhodo

runic ether
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also i went from taking a week and a half to finish canto 4 to finishing canto 5 now in a day

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wtf

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i was fully expecting ahab to be finished here

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hermann is putting together a league of losers though???

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like she grabbed gubo (i assume trying to get yi sang), now shes got ahab who just lost massively. idk about hong lu's brother much and sonya hasnt really done much

honest pawn
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finishing the Canto in one night is impressive

silver osprey
glossy latch
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Still no Carte

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The game is mocking me >:[

mortal iron
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@lusty egret oh shit it's deathscythe hell EW ver and BUILD FIGHTERS

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Reiji WOW

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Wait this is like the first time I think build fighters have been in a Sd Game besides maybe the suits

lusty egret
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OwO

glossy latch
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Finally

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I got Carte

mystic python
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Congrate

glossy latch
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Now I just need her weapon

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Mildly frustrating I had to get a few rolls into pity for both though

mystic python
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Ye same, is unfortunate but it's what I expect at this point

glossy latch
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Used up all my luck in ZZZ lmao

slow raft
glossy latch
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And theres the weapon nyaruhodo

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Only part left is farming echoes

glossy latch
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Oh and materials for skill upgrades ig

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Turns out I needed way more of those than I thought

digital marlin
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Already farmed skill mates in 2.3 but missing Mats to actually finishing leveling her and her weapon

copper steppe
mystic python
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And she goes 44111 so tacet field sucks

lusty egret
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Is it my phone or G Eternal is extremely slow and prone to lags today?

rapid bough
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upcoming brown dust 2 justia skin is confirmed as a $50 gacha skin

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smh devs taking the wrong lessons from nikke

old galleon
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rip

rapid bough
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that said, it does appear to at least arguably have better value than a nikke gacha skin lol

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has a new sprite and skill cutscene, but also a l2d interactive scene like the glupy diner ones

copper steppe
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if fgo can have free skin so can you lol

rapid bough
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until this point, brown dust 2 was really nothing but free skins

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it didn't have any paid skins, and you'd pull costumes on gacha that double as alts with new skills

copper steppe
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how is even the gameplay of brown dust 2

old galleon
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turn based rpg on a grid, ymmv

copper steppe
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fft style or fire emblem?

rapid bough
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yeah idk if i have a game to really compare it to, but it's a top-down turn-based RPG on a grid

copper steppe
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but thats suprising lol

rapid bough
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also the wedding eclipse skill cutscene did indeed kill me

old galleon
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you can reposition your units on your grid but it's otherwise a fairly standard turn based rpg

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as far as gachas i've played go, it's kinda weak on the gameplay side comparatively

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imo anyway

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but i like some of the character designs and it's about time for anni so

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anyway that's apparently the free stuff we'll be able to get

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seeing some people complain refi wasn't lewd enough, and i am reminded that those kinds of people still exist

versed pawn
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as far im concerned i finished the cardgame event in wuwa

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its like a mix of a cardgame and autochess

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very cheesy at times

summer hornet
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I WILL BE THERE NO MATTER WHAT

runic ether
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i am not immune to old woman yuri

summer hornet
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At the top of my roll priority is Gundam 00 and Build Fighters

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AND GUESS WHO WE'VE GOT NOW

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REIJI VON ARISTA, BABY

rapid bough
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it's pretty funny seeing the bd2 community reaction to the $50 gacha skin because it's all "scam scam scam" (and they're not wrong)

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meanwhile the nikke community is just like

old galleon
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bunny loen gacha skin that ||removes the pasties||

wont' happen but it'd be funny to watch people mald

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anyway, you know my opinion on nikke's costume gacha, so you also know my opinion about bd2 premium skins

runic ether
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and then they never did this again

rapid bough
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"ate it up" in what sense

runic ether
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it sold well

rapid bough
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lol

runic ether
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most liked it a lot

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it was for diluc

rapid bough
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i mean, was it a good skin

runic ether
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his regular model is... a bit dated

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yeah it was

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it was a huge revamp

rapid bough
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i struggle to think of any given skin in any game being worth $50 but there is a value proposition involved

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the $50 or $60 skins in brown dust 2/nikke consist of some sexy moving pngs basically since the art is all 2d

runic ether
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some ppl saw it as scummy to rework his og model and pay for it but it has unique effects, looks great, it was high effort to most skins at the time

rapid bough
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it's easier to justify a skin in a game like genshin since there's a whole 3d model

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and presumably custom particle fx and shit too

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also a key point here (imo) is the fact that the skin is tied to a gacha system

runic ether
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his splash art

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in-game original

rapid bough
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so you buy tickets and roll for the skin, and it's guaranteed at $50's worth of tickets but you can get it earlier

runic ether
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oops

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meant to link the skin

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hes even a bit taller

rapid bough
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diluc vs the cooler diluc

runic ether
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also kinds funny: u can see more hoyo-isms in the design on the new skin

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a lot less symnetrical

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ponytail

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bangs got bigger

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but yeah no one disliked it enough but we havent gotten a new one in like

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2-3 years

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which is why im glad zzz seems to be going the route of dropping skins more often

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even if for yuzuha im too big a fan of her og outfit, and i dont plan to pull alice

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the option existing is good

rapid bough
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patiently waiting for an eve skin

old galleon
rapid bough
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funny thing about that arrangement is that i actually think she looks best in base lol

old galleon
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honestly, same

rapid bough
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well, other than the skinsuit gacha skin, but that's not enough of an upgrade to justify the purchase

old galleon
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i prefer her base to skin suit ,but skin suit is second best

rapid bough
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holy shit random bd2 anni stream freebies in the mail

slow raft
old galleon
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whale
miss d noises intensify

runic ether
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shouldnt have promised her many more whales hermann

rapid bough
old galleon
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HAPPY2025BD2DAY

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the other stream code

slow raft
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Indigo elder is prolly my favourite character from canto 5 tho

rapid bough
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got base lathel, base schera, and red riding hood rou off the 3 guaranted 5* tickets

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kinda shit but it was all free so i'm not complaining

old galleon
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got starting 5 star, chapter 2 5 star, and rou costume

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that is certainly a pull of all time

rapid bough
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oh we got the same thing? lol guess it's scripted then

old galleon
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no

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i was talking about yours

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i'm not even in game right now

rapid bough
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oh

runic ether
old galleon
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i just found it sad that the freebie seemed that malicious to give you dupes of two of the first characters in the game

runic ether
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though i wonder if its a match up difference

rapid bough
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dupes are dupes are dupes

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base schera is still a good costume

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base lathel not so much

old galleon
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schera is at least decent

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i can't think of a single legit use case for base lathel at this point

runic ether
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since indigo seems to specialize in killing these whales

old galleon
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as for rou, can't really say how good her red riding hood costume is

runic ether
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but with how scared shitless ppl are of vergilus, i can imagine he has more experience killing people

old galleon
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anyway, whenever the game sees fit to let me in, i'll go report my own results

old galleon
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okay so my rolls were granhildr (new), edgy lathel (dupe), alice glacia (dupe)

slow raft
# runic ether but with how scared shitless ppl are of vergilus, i can imagine he has more expe...

Colour fixers are the cream of the crop, the abolute highest rank a fixer can earn.
The specific criteria as to what makes one is unkown, but the hana association gives the colour and title to fixers who "demnnstrate great renwon" in a particular field, so its assume that it just goes to the best at a particular thing. Of course this being the city, they are also almost always absolute killing machines.
The average colour fixer can probably deal with ricardo himself without much issue truth be told, but powerscaling in this verse is a bit wack so who knows

versed pawn
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may i have some of them infinite loops sir

honest pawn
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but there's obviously some strength that comes from hunting those creatures so it makes sense he'd be able to almost one-shot Ricardo

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if you put Ricardo up against one of Ruina's Colors he gets rocked in 5 seconds

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I'd also imagine Xiao or similar Grade 1's would be able to deal with him pretty easily

glossy latch
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Oh Carte is gonna be a pain to get Echoes for, isnt she

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On that note, Yixuan is nearly built at this point

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I just need one more Blade and Branch Song disc (slot 5 or 6) and an upgrade to whichever I dont replace

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Got insanely good discs 1 and 3 which is a plus

runic ether
digital marlin
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The 4* feel easier to farm compared to 3* due to being in a fixed location and not having limited a.ount you can farm per day but the 1* are just DisgustCat

glossy latch
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Yeah its the 1*

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I only need to get a better main 4*, the secondary one is already decent but those 1*

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Yeesh

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I got 3 that didnt roll CD, so Im running around with half the recommended CD

digital marlin
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Wish we had better farming for the echo exp too

glossy latch
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Mood

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And I havent even levelled Aero Rover yet >.>

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Btw @runic ether is Grace actually any good for Miyabi?

runic ether
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shes fine

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you'd probably really want astra though

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since grace wants to have enough field time to trigger her stuff

rapid bough
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grace has a "not all that good in general" problem lol

runic ether
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yeah content is doable on grace

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but

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well at least shes not nekomata

glossy latch
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Does Grace actually need field time?

rapid bough
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she at least has a niche (applying shock), even if she's not particularly good

runic ether
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dps ben gets better results than both as a carry

rapid bough
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neko just has nothing

glossy latch
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I thought her advantage was low field time

runic ether
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for miyabi she'd want more

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more than normal

glossy latch
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Damn

rapid bough
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she's made for mono-electric shock spam comps like yanagi/rina/grace or smth since she juices shock

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for disorder (i.e. miyabi) she's meh

glossy latch
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I wanted to find a way to free up Yanagi so I can run Yanagi as the electric option because I dont get Harumasa still

runic ether
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yanagi grace rina is actually quite good

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but this is more a case of yanagi is good

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like real good

glossy latch
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I know there is technically mono-Ice

runic ether
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i feel like ppl didnt linger on yanagi much bc of miyabi but she is crazy strong too

glossy latch
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But Id have to change the discs on Soukaku then >.>

rapid bough
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yanagi has been sold short by being miyabi's frost stack generator for so long lol

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she's stupid strong on her own too

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i bet she reruns next patch, i'll prolly pick up her sig

runic ether
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we're seeing this with alice rn basically

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shes a physical miyabi more or less

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but she doesnt has nearly the oomph cus she doesnt care about the other anom triggers

glossy latch
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Tbf Yanagi is just really convenient for Miyabi

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But maybe Ill finally level up Lycaon to run mono-Ice, Ill see

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I also do need to finish maxing out Yixuan though, Im

rapid bough
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fair warning mono-ice is dummy hard to play properly

runic ether
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mono ice is great

glossy latch
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So close

runic ether
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but

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yeag

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lol

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its actually a bit difficult to play well

rapid bough
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mono ice is prolly the hardest team in the game to play, maybe tied with optimized harumasa comp

runic ether
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optimal haru is harder for sure

glossy latch
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RIP

runic ether
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but i'd compare it to about

glossy latch
#

But yeah, Yixuan just needs 2 discs and EX-skill upgraded

runic ether
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the difficulty u find from maining the a ranks

glossy latch
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And Ill be done with her

rapid bough
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even suboptimal mono ice probably goes hard enough to 20k+ deadass or S shiyu tbf

runic ether
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like seth, billy, anby corin

rapid bough
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it's all the little optimizations people do to extract every ounce of damage that's really hard

glossy latch
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Unfortunately the 2 discs I need are the 2 hardest ones to farm >.>

runic ether
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5 and 6?

glossy latch
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Yep

runic ether
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lol welcome to the club

glossy latch
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Disc 6 is probably ok but like

runic ether
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im hoping we get genshin's optimizations soon

glossy latch
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It only has crit rate, and I want CR/CD

runic ether
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that should be the standard now with crafting discs

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or relics

glossy latch
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I also need to see if I keep farming the new domain or go back to blade and branch song

runic ether
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new

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new one by far

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every stunner their mother and their brother needs the new set

rapid bough
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yunkui is just for yixuan rn but the stun set is BIS for every stunner

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you're gonna want lots of it

glossy latch
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Yeah, but Astral Voice is also really good lmao

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Ill see tho

rapid bough
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well ideally in an attack/support/stun comp, your support is on astral voice

glossy latch
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I do need a second B&B Song disc to activate the 2-pc

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My crit damage is so low rn

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Crit rate is almost 100% tho

rapid bough
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waiting patiently for more info on next patch's reruns

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i'm still unsure whether i really do want to skip fufu

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but if next patch is like... yuzuha + eve rerun, i'm skipping fufu whether i want to or not

glossy latch
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You already have Eve and her signature, dont you

rapid bough
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i don't have her sig

glossy latch
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Ah

rapid bough
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the last infinity stone of my eve comp

glossy latch
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Im skipping Ju Fufu so I can have Yuzuha rolls

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But Im also hoping to get Astra rn lmao

rapid bough
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that's what i should do

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but i got so lucky on yixuan + sig (both in 70 pulls total) that i'm riding a gambler's high

glossy latch
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Lmao

rapid bough
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and tbh yixuan comps feel kinda clunky atm

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and i think fufu would smooth that out

glossy latch
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Also waiting for reset to get Yixuans last core skill upgrade

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Can Yixuan solo Shiyu?

rapid bough
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though one of my problems is not having an energy regen disk 6 for pan atm

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that shit is so important

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he doesn't have enough energy otherwise to keep his buff up consistently lol

rapid bough
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if she can solo 20k an ether weak deadass, she can probably solo an ether weak shiyu stage

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ofc that also depends on how good your team in the other half can do

glossy latch
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I see I see

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Just trying to figure out what Ill do if I dont get panda

rapid bough
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while pan is basically made for her atm, she's good with a bunch of generic defense/supports too

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if you get astra, yixuan/nicole/astra kinda slaps if you have m6 nicole, even despite nicole's DEF shred not being relevant, the CR and ether damage buffs do plenty of work

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idr if you have caesar but she's good with yixuan too

glossy latch
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Nope

rapid bough
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rip

glossy latch
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I have Lucy I guess?

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And Pulchra, but shes not M6 yet

rapid bough
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lucy's additional ability is annoyingly restrictive but she is still good without it

glossy latch
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Pulchra activates it, right?

rapid bough
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yes, though pre-m6 pulchra is pretty lame

glossy latch
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Just need to get one more copy then nyaruhodo

rapid bough
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she basically brings nothing to the team except daze when she's pre-m6

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if you do get m6 pulchra she is definitely a strong option

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yixuan/pulchra/lucy will almost certainly get any job done

glossy latch
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Well, gotta get either of the banner characters then nyaruhodo

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... and then build them

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I actually hate how slow building characters is

rapid bough
glossy latch
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Really?

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Even though Nicoles main benefit is lost?

rapid bough
#

yes, because lucy's main benefit is also much weaker for yixuan

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i'd bet nicole's ether% buff scales more than lucy's ATK buff

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  • crit rate too
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but idk i ain't a number cruncher

icy flicker
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neither are ideal but i do agree Nicole would make for a better Yixuan team, the cr just nice

glossy latch
#

well

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I already overcap CR on Yixuan lmao

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But also tbf I have Lucy built

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Not so much Nicole

rapid bough
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nicole would be there for debuffs so her build doesn't matter much besides your disk 4set

slow raft
glossy latch
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I guess I have her disc set already

summer hornet
slow raft
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its ishmael limbus company as skadi alter

summer hornet
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Oh lmfao

glossy latch
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Guess who went from M0 to M6 Pulchra before getting a single panda 🙃

runic ether
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lol

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hey at least m6 pulchra is really good

slow raft
glossy latch
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I suppose so but I guess now my best Yixuan team is Yixuan Pulchra Lucy

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And idk how I feel about that

long tree
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fleur cant climb, run, fly or use overworld buffs

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I've been cheated

glossy latch
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She can walk over water however

long tree
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If you're touching water in wuwa youre playing it wrong

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Also this card game event fucks

slow raft
astral drift
slow raft
old galleon
old galleon
digital marlin
rapid bough
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upgrade fourth line: DEF%
all further upgrades go into DEF%

digital marlin
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got this in the same 10

rapid bough
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believe it or not, still DEF%

digital marlin
rapid bough
runic ether
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thats still a really good piece wow

rapid bough
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pretty sure that's basically a godroll for yixuan

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idk if it was intended for her but that's where it should go tbh

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unless you don't need woodpecker 2pc or something

digital marlin
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was looking for good wood pecker for either her or Eve depending on the rolls

rapid bough
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it's a damn good roll in general but the HP% would go to waste on eve but is good for yixuan

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so it should be hers

digital marlin
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i have a feeling so complicated

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can we get the ability to change disc slots

rapid bough
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ATK% main stat 🚮

runic ether
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could be worse

glossy latch
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I have yet to get a 5 CV rolls piece

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Those are possible right?

runic ether
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i have multiple

glossy latch
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Oof

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1/4 rolls into CV on my disc 6

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It was so close to perfect

rapid bough
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holy FUCK

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i just realized sometime a while ago i switched my soukaku wengine from astra to soukaku, probably to try and learn mono ice comp

old galleon
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what, did shift up do something stupid again

rapid bough
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and i never put it back on astra

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my astra has been wengine-less for probably a solid month

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this is amazing

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time to try that pompey fight again...

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if i was stressing about my 10k difference compared to that one guy with basically the same build because my astra was at like half of her buff potential...

glossy latch
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Lmao

rapid bough
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well i definitely got closer but i'm still like 4k away

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but i think that actually is explainable by not having the little optimizations down

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also i'm still not good at maintaining my buffs

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oh wait that was also last reset's pompey, which had a different buff. pretty sure this reset's is weaker for eve's team since the best buff choice isn't as good

glossy latch
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This DA also has higher HP I'm pretty sure

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Also I just realised I basically already have 100% CR on Yixuan since her disc gives CR

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So farming discs is easier lmao

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I should read the discs and kit sometimes

runic ether
wispy goblet
runic ether
#

i've done the same a couple of times with my attacker wengines

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somewhat easy to forget if u arent whaling and going hard on every character + wengine

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some ppl have to share

wispy goblet
old galleon
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good enough to start, you'll eventually reroll it but don't worry about that for now

runic ether
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fuck

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i afk'ed on hugo after i hit 20k points and went to piss and i came back to a really funny wipeout of hugo getting his back blown out to the marionette twins and i couldnt grab it

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well thats another 9 stars on deadass

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no miyabi this time

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yixuan clear was scuffed as fuck

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pan and pulchra are both on astral voice rn icant

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pan core passive is also only d

#

man this was scuffed as fuck and it still 3 stared

rapid bough
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just out of curiosity i put together yixuan/pan/astra on miasma to compare to yixuan/pan/caeasr

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was also scuffed since both pan and astra have astral voice

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but tbh it wasn't that much better

runic ether
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new daze set thoo

rapid bough
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i got like 32k with caeasar and 36k with astra? and that caesar attempt was my first ever so i sucked ass at the timing

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also pan needs an energy regen disk 6 so bad

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can't keep up his fucking buff without it

runic ether
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yea but thats pretty normal for supports tbh

wispy goblet
#

Just finished Chapter 23
cashed in some resources because I was lazy and wanted to keep quick battling
but without a lot of commitment I'll need to full battle now

rapid bough
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he's a defense agent not a support ackshually

wispy goblet
#

I miss not knowing how to play Zhu Yuan
I feel so unoptimal now

summer hornet
#

Act 3 of Fontaine honestly kinda lost me for a month or so with the prison tasks, but literally as soon as that was done my interest reignited with vigor. I get why they did it, and it paid dividends quite quickly, but something about it really just made me lose focus lol

#

Act 4 has been nonstop fantastic so far, in large part because it’s just building on all the setup Act 3 placed lol. I do get why they did it the way they did

||Neuvillette and Wriothesley are way too cool, and IDK if it’s the fact I’m a big brother or my attraction to the showmanship but I’m really loving Lyney. Arlecchino’s impressive, in a terrifyingly effective sense. Like I get why she’s doing what she does and saying what she says, but almost assassinating an Archon in the middle of the night, deciding not to at the last second, and then silently watching as said Archon cries herself to sleep… that was just, oof. And every instinct in my body is saying that resolving Furina’s twisted pathos will be the key to saving Fontaine, so I guess I’m giving her a pass because I’m sure she’s gonna have one heck of an eleventh hour evolution. But obviously Arlecchino can’t and won’t rely on a narrative trope like that lmao. She has 0 qualms about doing whatever it takes and that has to be respected||

runic ether
#

it was 42 long days of this patch

summer hornet
#

Oh GDI none of the images spoilered

summer hornet
runic ether
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thats how long patch cycles last in genshin

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hsr and zzz too

#

so we finished this patch, and it ends how it ends, and we were left 42 days waiting for the next part

summer hornet
#

….I always thought it was a month for some reason lol

runic ether
summer hornet
#

But it’s 3 weeks per banner, not 2

runic ether
#

ye

runic ether
summer hornet
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||oh lmfao RIGHT, she's number four||

runic ether
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||the captain, dottore, columbina, arlecchino, the rooster, scaramouche, sandrone, signora, pantalone, ----, childe||

summer hornet
#

||yeah, I can see that. Given Arlecchino has The Hearth, which is basically her own clandestine group- technically above board, but willing to be dirty if need be. Technically I haven't seen her fight in the story yet... But I literally own her and have seen her animations lol. There is no way she's not at least as strong as Scaramouche||

runic ether
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||arle may be stronger than her rank suggests anyways but you'll find out as u go along.||

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||childe, by fontaine too, is already much stronger than signora too.||

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||but that was locked behind an event.||

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||the reason childe is called mr worldwide is bc he has shown up in every region up until then and he had even been in the abyss too.||

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||he showed up in an inazuma event with yoimiya and after his training, was said to be stronger than the traveler who had already beaten signora by then||

summer hornet
#

Oh right, Childe was the eleventh huh

runic ether
#

still is

summer hornet
#

Lmfao "we recognize your strength but do not give you the rank of number 10"

runic ether
#

we still dont know who the 10th is

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the theory is held that it'll be the traveler but peeposhrug

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theres also the theory of "it was diluc's dad" or "it'll be diluc"

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but that seat has been absent from well... everything

#

go talk to the mondstat fatui hanging out near the teleport spot to the alchemy table

#

they comment on the latest fatui gossip

summer hornet
#

Wait Kaeya's dad was a refugee, what was the deal with Diluc's dad again?

runic ether
#

kaeya's dad

#

wait did you do kaeya's quest?

runic ether
#

who mysteriously had a delusion in the web comics

summer hornet
runic ether
#

ah caribert

summer hornet
#

Yeah

runic ether
#

kaeya's quest goes over it a bit

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its not huge spoilers though but yeah kaeya was given over to diluc's family at a very young age with an express mission

#

abandoned more like

summer hornet
#

Ohhhh, okay

#

I do remember his profile mentioning his dad dropped him off at the hillside yeah

#

Along with some weirdly charged lines that... Would probably make sense if I'd done his quest I guess lol

runic ether
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his quest came out in sumeru i believe so

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uh wait

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it came out in fontaine

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lol

summer hornet
#

LOL yeah, iirc it needed Caribert or Fontaine to unlock- I'll double check later

runic ether
#

yep

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its relevant to him

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not to his ties to mondstat but to his origins

summer hornet
#

Related but unrelated, going several steps back in convo - ||They did also explicitly say that Neuvilette was a water dragon in Act 4, after teasing at it in Acts 1 and 2. You said the NPCs mentioned it before, but Paimon and Traveler were both shocked to figure it out so I don't think it's terribly common knowledge lol||

runic ether
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||it isnt. as in, despite being alive for hundreds of years, no one in fontaine has questioned it lol.||

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||do his story quest. beautifully written.||

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||the shock was mostly cus they kinda guessed right in the end||

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||but it is somewhat funny that to the fontainians, their head judge has been alive for hundreds of years unchanging and they go oh yeah thats normal and dont question it.||

summer hornet
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||"It's because she's Erza!"||

runic ether
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||he even brought the melusines over to the actual city from the corpse of a dead dragon-monstrocity and again. not many directly questioned it.||

versed pawn
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got the s1 carte

summer hornet
#

||true, even Wriothesley and Clorinde don't question how he has the power to stop the primordial sea lol||

runic ether
#

||well wrio did a bit. before checking out neuv's ass and moving on.||

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||rewatch that cutscene lol.||

summer hornet
#

I definitely will lmao

runic ether
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#neuvillette #repair #seal #cutscene #animation #cinematics #water #surge #defend #primordialsea #fortressofmeropide #prison #jail #archonquest #act4 #cataclysmquickening #fontaine #version4.1 #furina #focalors #neuvillette #arlecchino #wriothesley #hoyocreators #genshinimpact
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summer hornet
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OH MY GOSH HE DOES

runic ether
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||also reminding that childe got ambushed by neuv and he still got a scratch in at the end||

summer hornet
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SIR

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He even says "Wow", I'm dead

runic ether
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they are written a bit (a lot) gay subtext

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in sigewinne's character demo they are fishing in the background

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at any opportunity, wrio and neuv find time to hang out or neuv finds a way to keep him in the surface for longer

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sigewinne sees neuv like her dad and wrio takes care of her like a father as well

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it is more subtle than haitham kaveh

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or tighnari cyno

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but it is def there

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another event missed: during last year's lantern rites, neuvillette got tea for wrio. like 10 boxes worth of it from liyue

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what other gay shit did they do with them hmmm

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ah right they do write to each other very often more than required for work and its stated that the duke goes to see neuv even if not prompted to for work

timber sigil
long tree
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Damn calcharo has hands

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Or cards ig

silver osprey
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timber sigil
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Song 3 a sequel to Song 2?

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kek

slow raft
honest pawn
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fuck it

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I hope hong lu gets it

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I do not care

versed pawn
long tree
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I just made a really tanky team and outlasted him

rapid bough
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just realized i put the new stun set on lighter but ended at 48% CR so i'm getting half the buff from it icant

glossy latch
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God farming echoes on Cartetythia is painful

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I keep getting echoes that have one really good CV roll ... and dont have the other CV at all

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So right now Im running around with 60% less CD than recommended

versed pawn
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People run 4/4/1/1/1

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Fleurdelis also drops pilgrimage with kelpie

glossy latch
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I am running 4/4/1/1/1

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Since her weapon doesnt have CV that just kinda events out

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Pilgrimage?

runic ether
rapid bough
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just saw a CN bro hitting 65k misama priest with m0w1 yixuan/m0w0 qingyi/m6 nicole

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god help me i will never be this good at the game

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really makes me wonder how good ju fufu will really be for yixuan

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i might end up pulling for her...

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or at least pulling until i lose a 50 so i can use the guarantee on yuzuha

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the struggle is real

old galleon
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so uh i re-looked at raven's kit and while some people are saying it's actually pretty good, possibly meta, i'm not seeing it

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idk if i'm blind or dumb or if other people can't properly analyze a kit or what

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eve has damage amp on electric enemies, which is already better than anything i'm seeing in raven's kit at a glance

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like, if nothing else, that at least makes her a decent enough off burst in iron weak content

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all i'm seeing on raven is a fairly bog standard kit focused on sustained damage with a smattering of anti-parts

rapid bough
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i imagine it's due to the amount of sustained damage she does

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without going too deep into the numbers, it seems to me like she should be doing more sustained damage than overspec mihara

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especially if there are parts to kill

old galleon
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yeah, and that's fine

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i ain't saying she's bad

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but the way some of these people are talking about her you'd think she's the best thing since sliced bread

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||not sliced bready, don't slice your taste tester||

rapid bough
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one thing that i think the numbers don't immediately show is that she's like A2 in that she has a custom, very long attack animation

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getting to 10 stacks of her DoT is actually going to take a hot minute with how long her attacks take lol

old galleon
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that's even worse

rapid bough
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probably like 20-25 secs, and god help you if it ever falls off. only lasts 5 sec

old galleon
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how much charge speed is she gonna need

rapid bough
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it's not a charge speed issue

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it's an animation issue

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you can't spam shots with her you can with other RLs

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there's a brief cooldown after every attack where the actual animation plays and locks you into it

old galleon
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longer charge speed means she has even more buildup time factoring in the long animation after the fact

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since she wants full charge shots

rapid bough
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i think her charge speed is pretty normal for RLs though

old galleon
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oh right

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go help with this at some point

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there's like a sliver of server progress needed for the last reward

runic ether
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@slow raft btw now that i have access to level 45, i do notice not everyone levels their ids to max. what is the reason to level up to max?

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especially since mirror dungeon brings u up to max level anyways i believe

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is it just favorites?

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or is there a specific meta

slow raft
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Each level increases the offense level of all of the identities skills by one

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Offenese level is complicated but lets judt say that it determines your clashpower

runic ether
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ahh okay so

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a clash-winner focused id

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will always want the max level

slow raft
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Well thats every id

runic ether
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hm fair

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so then whats the focus?

slow raft
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But the reason not everyone is at max level is that theres a shit ton of ids and they just raised the max level

runic ether
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ah

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oh i see

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so its just a lack of resources

slow raft
runic ether
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i thought it was more specific

slow raft
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Yeah people should be catching up soon

runic ether
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like leaving some ids at lower level for specific reasons and whatnot

slow raft
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Well i think it also increases health? And if thats the cade i guess there are some ids that want to die so

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Thatd be the only reason

runic ether
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so dont think twice, just hit the next level cap, and bring up the main ids i want to use up to the max, and then keep moving up

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at least for story

runic ether
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gotcha. i was thinking it was something a bit more specific but i guess i was overthinking it

old galleon
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will never understand people who like a character, read on a tier list that the character isn't game breakingly op, and then decide they're dropping the game

runic ether
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they probs dont really like the character enough

old galleon
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happens with just about every collab lol

runic ether
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ik some ppl for hsr are a bit conflicted on saber

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she's weaker than archer from the prelim numbers

old galleon
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okay that would be funny

runic ether
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but she is 100% pretty damn good

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not op but thats like fine?

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but i have def seen ppl extra salty about it

old galleon
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ye, same in eve's case

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she's not great but she's good, certainly usable, especially for newer players they'd be drawing in with this collab

runic ether
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errr actually though

old galleon
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it's like

runic ether
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that is the slight scummy part

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oh nevermind

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theres a 5 star selector

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i was gonna say shes not super useable if you are new but then i remember new players can get bronya free

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thats about the only real teammate you need for saber

old galleon
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oh there's a perma 5 star selector now?

runic ether
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ideally it'd be sunday

old galleon
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neat

runic ether
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ye

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but yeah with that in mind even

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she's even more f2p friendly

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not as much as archer who is literally free

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but decently

old galleon
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i imagine bronya is still good even if she's been crept after 2 years

runic ether
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yeah

old galleon
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esp if you don't have the unit(s) that creeps her

runic ether
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sunday does just creep her like crazy

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but

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she's still good enough

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though i can def understand it a bit if some ppl are looking to min-max

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and they see her best team is way more expensive than archers too

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and that even with her best team, shes not exactly totally gangbusting every single dps check in the game

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though i still find that very silly

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expecting a collab character to just

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be the be all end all

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and idk where it comes from?

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i dont know much about nikke

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but i dont assume the eva collab units were totally busted

old galleon
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raven isn't technically playable yet tho we do have her kit, she's theoretically fine

eve is playable now and is actually fine imo, but no, not top of the line

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i just find it wild that someone would start nikke for eve or raven, then see their kits are good but not great and use that as their reason to drop it

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like she's not even bad!

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i get not wanting to keep playing if they didn't just enjoy the game

runic ether
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i can understand it as partly a reason that they didnt really love theg ame

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so their fave not even being busted can kind of drop interest?

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but it still feels a bit silly

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though ig they probs shouldnt have started the game

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to begin with

rapid bough
runic ether
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yea

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more or less

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that or they probs shouldnt have kept with the game to begin with

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like i love guilty gear but i have never played a game because they collabed with guilty gear

rapid bough
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i haven't ever started playing a given game because it's collabing with another IP i love and i don't think i ever will

old galleon
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same

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however, collabs are generally one way they do draw in new players

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so even if we don't, plenty of others do

rapid bough
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oh yeah i know that's how they rope in a nontrivial amount of players, at least temporarily

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and also get a bunch of returning players too

old galleon
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that said, still don't know why azur lane has a black rock shooter collab going right now

rapid bough
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the sort that plays the game when they see characters they like, or for major events

slow raft
rapid bough
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and just doesn't bother otherwise

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i'm probably one of a very small subset of gacha players who neurotically logs on and completes all content available for any gacha i play, for as long as i'm playing it

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it's either 0 or 100 for me

runic ether
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oh right actually i remember that arknights gameplay just doesnt draw me in much

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i'd be more interested in endfield

slow raft
rapid bough
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to this day, nearly 1.5 years on, i don't think i've missed a single daily login of nikke

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same for azur lane, ZZZ, etc

old galleon
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arknights is legitimately really good and i'd still be playing it if i didn't have a bunch of other games and shit already on my plate

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but i know the gameplay isn't for everyone

slow raft
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Arknights is fantastic but i have not been able to keep up with reading im ngl

long tree
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Was about to say, arknights I dropped because it yaps. Its absolutely insane how much writing is there throwing out keywords dreamt by eldritch dietys to make you question yourself and your reading comprehension

runic ether
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ah but you see

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im used to that

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thanks hoyo

long tree
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Id argue arknights has it worse

old galleon
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comparatively, i take login breaks in most of the other games i play except fgo

long tree
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At least hsr repeats the same thing over and over again to ensure everyone can at least kinda get whats going on if youre not paying much attention

runic ether
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im ngl tho, if a game is telling us it will be narrative heavy, i cant imagine going into it not expecting to read a lot

long tree
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Yeah its definitely just one of those things you gotta suck up and deal with

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Like it did not lie

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The words can in fact word

old galleon
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iirc arknights didn't start off super heavy on text

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but it definitely ramped up

runic ether
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having a story to tell is nice

old galleon
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i'm a sucker for that, ye

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i don't consider words in themselves a downside

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now if the storytelling sucks, then we have a problem