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rapid bough
well yeah i'm assuming all else held equal here lol
runic ether
i believe hugo is similar as well as eve and zhu yuan
where if u play them super optimally, they can get real close to miyabi
verdict is still out on yixuan but i assume she will be around that tier too
oh also, m6 pan will make a big difference for getting to that gap for yixuan
hes still bis
rapid bough
tier list agrees with you on eve specifically anyway
runic ether
but his m6 is actually crazy
rapid bough
she's got the expert tag in the tier below miyabi just like yixuan
though i think eve is less "expert" tag and more "team comp/loadout" tag
runic ether
hmm
maybe tho u also main eve so it may seem more intuitive as u have played her more
glossy latch
Evelyn has some optimisations
rapid bough
the difference between m0w0 eve with no lighter/astra, and m0w1 eve with both lighter and astra, is... uh, ASTRAnomical
runic ether
okay fair
glossy latch
Mostly around getting maximised chain attacks in the stun window
runic ether
if we toss eve, haru, 11, zhu yuan in a more generic support comp of say
rapid bough
a properly optimized eve with her best team definitely gives miyabi a run for her money
runic ether
lucy/caesar
i think eve would fall behind the others
but if u have her optimal team
its like a hot knife through butter
rapid bough
yeah that's sorta what i mean
eve is probably the character most improved by a proper comp in the game atm
she's fine in generic comps but she goes absolutely ballistic in optimized ones
runic ether
whereas crackhead haru mains are clearing with him on a box of scraps in a cave
rapid bough
to play haru optimally you do kinda have to play like you're on crack so that tracks
actual 500apm bullshittery happening there
where's that gif of the guy about to pop a blood vessel while he smashes his keyboard
that's your average harumasa main
runic ether
wrong
they are adhd kiddies on adderal
haru mains are on this type of movement at any given moment
theres a tiktok compilation + asmr vid + train run vid playing on the other monitor
rapid bough
they relate to haru since they also need meds to get through the day
runic ether
lol
runic ether
magic
rapid bough
i've tried to understand it and it's literally too big brain for me
runic ether
its genuinely fighting game annotations with the frame windows matching
rapid bough
i watched a video with a combo summary and it had like 40 steps that you need to execute in 5 seconds
and if you're not frame perfect on any step the whole thing falls apart
it's insanity
glossy latch
... right
rapid bough
sometimes i think i'm good at video games and then characters like harumasa come along and disabuse me of that notion
glossy latch
Anyway got a long workday before I can try rolling for Yixuan
Do we know what the phase 2 banners are?
runic ether
caesar jufufu
runic ether
i was thinking of caesar wengine but shifu took me to pity
i didnt mind it got me 3 m6s i was hoping for
but oof
rapid bough
i'm the opposite end of the spectrum lol
got insanely lucky with yixuan in 30 pulls but now i'm in an awkward spot with none of the dupes i kinda want
i'll be dead and buried before i pull just for 4* agents though
glossy latch
Hmmm
rapid bough
hmmm caesar's wengine is definitely tempting
but she's sorta fallen out of favor as a top tier support option so i'm not sure how much use i'd actually get out of it
glossy latch
I'm debating getting Yixuans engine if it's that much better than f2p alternatives
runic ether
but she's sorta fallen out of favor as a top tier support option so i'm not sure...
pure comfort
rapid bough
it feels so bad that she doesn't actually have a good option besides her sig though
runic ether
I'm debating getting Yixuans engine if it's that much better than f2p alternativ...
it is but it isnt
as in, she is herself
really good
so her wengine is like
you drop a nuke and 5 minutes later carpet bomb the place
runic ether
we're still so early in this game's life span, these discussions will seem silly in like a year or so when we have more wengine options and possible craft options
rapid bough
i feel like not pulling for her sig is banking on the possibility that future rupture wengines will be better
which is likely, but how long you wanna wait for that
especially considering the current difference between her sig and second best option is in-line with what other characters have had
despite those other characters having significantly more secondary options
ugh whatever
given my limited number of pulls it's actually mostly a question of whether i want yixuan's sig or ju fufu
and the answer to that is ju fufu 100% of the time
runic ether
yeah new character > wengine
rapid bough
plus i recently pulled for lighter's wengine and i fucking hate pulling for wengines
so i'll take a break and just live with yixuan being slightly less than completely absurd
rapid bough
while the BP wengine is her best option short of her sig, it's still pretty mid
actually i take this back
the BP wengine isn't even her second best option apparently, at least not at level 1 (which ofc it will be)
the f2p rupture wengine is better at level 5, which of course you can actually get to since you can craft more
ugh
rapid bough
guess that was a poorly advised BP purchase but oh well
runic ether
i'll try the math later
later as in: when i get the bp wengine
i'll build up a f2p wengine to p5
rapid bough
it's not a very significant difference either way
runic ether
wispy goblet
hey asking for a friend
how big is ZZZ on phone
just remembered I won't have access to my computer for a week
honest pawn
I need Streetlight Office to come back
slow raft
these mirror dungeon challenges are a tad bit challenging huh
cant believe i cant just do 10k damage without any preparation in my sinking team
honest pawn
the blooming yi sang in question:
slow raft
yeah he only did 8k, what a fraud
(i probably shouldve found a way to inflict fragile)
i only have the 10 k damage, the "win with only 1 survivor", the kill 6 at once and the 50 mds open still
honest pawn
tbh I'm not too big of a fan of the challenges but I'm too lazy to do all of them
I want the rewards but I don't wanna put in work to get the rewards
curious!
slow raft
technically you can get all but one of the rewards without the work
slow raft
runic ether
wise stealing her pudding is really on brand
rapid bough
when ju fufu releases, i assume she's optimal for yixuan, so does that comp become yixuan/fufu/astra or yixuan/fufu/pan?
astral drift
X
runic ether
when ju fufu releases, i assume she's optimal for yixuan, so does that comp beco...
pan is better than fufu for yixuan even though fufu is optimal for her atm
so yeah the comp is yunkui summit
rapid bough
pan is better than fufu for yixuan even though fufu is optimal for her atm
this sentence is making me short circuit
i feel like one of the names somewhere in here should be astra
but i don't know which
old galleon
would have been nice for one of these to be the rateup character, but i'll take it
premaya's pretty outdated and i'd already had her at 4* forever now, but mazrika is a functional support at least
runic ether
i feel like one of the names somewhere in here should be astra
if u want astra on yixuan, pan is better overall
otherwise, astra is not on the team more or less
rapid bough
if u want astra on yixuan, pan is better overall
oh so you're saying that if you run astra, then the comp is yixuan/pan/astra rather than yixuan/fufu/astra
are we assuming pan m6 for this? or is that also true at lower mindscape levels
asking because i'm nowhere close to pan m6 lol
is pan going to be on fufu's banner too? do we know?
nm just looked it up, it'll be ben and corin. lame
runic ether
its true even on lower than m6. m6 skyrockets him for yixuan but his buff is unique to rupture and its really really good for rupture
it just gets. astra-nomical at m6
at m6, you can consider dropping astra for pan
rapid bough
well the biggest reason i ask is because it'd be really nice for astra to not be a BIS support on literally every team ever lmao
so if yixuan/fufu/pan is as good as or even slightly better than a comp with astra that'd be nice to save astra for use elsewhere
as an eve stan i ofc am mostly concerned with using her with eve
glossy latch
Damn
I was only 8 rolls off of Hugo
Also guess I got her early enough I can aim for her weapon now?
In ZZZ the weapon banner isnt guaranteed is it
runic ether
75/25
glossy latch
I see
Also are we getting a free copy of the panda?
... huh
Why did I get an S-rank engine in my first 10 pull
There was no pity on this
runic ether
making it up for not getting hugo
the phantom thief came to bless your next few pulls
quick buy a lottery ticket
glossy latch
It was Brimstone but like
runic ether
thats not even bad
glossy latch
This was so early I should be able to just roll down a second time and get it
runic ether
Also are we getting a free copy of the panda?
yes and no
the 4 star selector from the shop will include pan after 2.0 concludes
since its now a full on selector
no waiting for a specific one to roll around
u can just get a copy of a 4 star once a month
glossy latch
Ah
But I usually use it to get rolls lmao
Oh well
Who is Brimstone even good on
runic ether
any and all atk agents
particularly its great on 11 of course
but nekomata, zhu yuan, hugo, sanby can all use it
glossy latch
I guess its just a better Starlight engine
runic ether
ye more or less
gets way better if u onfield
so for 11, its goated
eve also does super well with it with minor adjustments to her playstyle
runic ether
oh right lol
glossy latch
And Billy has Nekomatas signature
runic ether
brimstone does beat out neko engine on billy
glossy latch
I can believe that
runic ether
if you play his standard team comp
glossy latch
But then Id have no one to use that engine on lmao
runic ether
i think it falls behind brim too
glossy latch
But then Id have to fix his discs again
runic ether
oh yeah haru would love brimstone
tho
idt u need it and a crit engine is often better
glossy latch
No wait that part is easy
runic ether
if you dont have the balance
glossy latch
I do
Ill have 100% CR and 165% CD with the setup
Marcato lets me run 100% CR and 195% CD but it loses him raw ATK I suppose
runic ether
yea
and his best team he shouldnt be struggling for the raw cdmg
ie: qingyi nicole
only time when raw atk may be saturated is astra as a teammate
glossy latch
Dont have Chingyi
glossy latch
Merely M3, and Im not pulling on the regular banner now
glossy latch
Id hope so
Either way, now its just a question of getting enough rolls to get Yi Xuans signature
runic ether
we have like
some 150 odd pulls this patch p sure
so
if u want it, you can get it
glossy latch
Yeah Id be shocked if I wont get it
Also genuinely no clue on who to get from the standard selector(s)
I could get Rina M4 and aim for Rina M6 but idk how much that matters
runic ether
rina has okay mindscapes past her 1st
idr how impactful her m4 is
how is your lycaon?
hes another good option
glossy latch
M1 already
My options are basically, get Grace and/or Nekomata just to have them
Build towards Rinas M6
glossy latch
And ... thats basically it?
glossy latch
Lycaons doesnt seem that good past M1, Koleda feels entirely redundant at this moment and S11 ... yeah
runic ether
i went m2 on 11 cus shes my goat
it'll be 2030 and i'll still main 11
why is yixuan's bird mogging me
glossy latch
As for standard signature, hmmm
runic ether
another brimstone
glossy latch
Has to be hellfire gears no?
runic ether
koleda sig for lighter?
runic ether
it is actually quite good on him too
glossy latch
Mmh
Anyway, hey, I guess Ill have my ether coverage soon too
Except
Do weaknesses even matter for rupture agents?
runic ether
ye
somewhat
like yixuan is just really strong anyways
but she will be favored in ether-weak content
glossy latch
I see
Anyway, I think thats enough ZZZ for the day
Ill build Yi Xuan and then use her once I get her signature
Oh lmao
One of her best alternatives is ... Nekomatas engine
Almost worth considering just sticking with that lmao
runic ether
yeah lol but eh i think u get more overall from the hp values u can get from the free options
glossy latch
Hmmm
The downside of pulling for the weapon is that I dont get any Mindscapes, the upsides is that its guaranteed
I could instead aim for Astra but my Evelyn team hasnt really struggled on anything so far
old galleon
got to use a scam mold and i now have c1 noir
glossy latch
Idk if I can keep winning more than I already have
rapid bough
why is yixuan's bird mogging me
omg she is such a fucking dork i love her
rapid bough
I could instead aim for Astra but my Evelyn team hasnt really struggled on anyth...
fwiw if there's any one investment that improves an account more than any other... it's miyabi. but a close second is astra
runic ether
Idk if I can keep winning more than I already have
rapid bough
astra is for real one of the biggest account crutches there is
she drastically improves nearly any team you can put her in
rapid bough
I could instead aim for Astra but my Evelyn team hasnt really struggled on anyth...
also you say this but don't you regularly have trouble S ranking shiyu? eve/lighter/astra just claps any and all content, even fire resistant
rapid bough
But I dont have a guarantee on her
see misty gif
glossy latch
Not regularly no
Its only when the enemy weaknesses are double ice or ice/ether
And I have Yi Xuan now 
rapid bough
well getting sig weapons is always a min/max decision which sounds like you don't need to worry as much about if you can clear content comfortably
rapid bough
Misty gif must have came in clutch
he had guarantee from losing on his quest for hugo
digital marlin
Oh oof
glossy latch
Yeeep
... I did get her early tho
And a 5* from a single 10 pull on the weapon banner giving me a guarantee
digital marlin
At least there is luck there
rapid bough
i got her in 30 pulls so i'm doomed for another run of burning ~160 pulls per character for several banners straight
glossy latch
Granted it does feel like my Jane Doe team is just not strong and idk why
Gonna try it with Lucy over Seth this time
rapid bough
sad truth is jane is just kinda relatively weak nowadays
you don't have her best secondary DPSers do you? burnice and vivian?
runic ether
you gotta really pop off on jane with vivian or burnice to have her do well
glossy latch
I have Vivian
rapid bough
o
glossy latch
Thats why its a little odd
runic ether
astra vivi jane
rapid bough
yeah that's a team where astra is a huge force multiplier
glossy latch
Like Im running Jane Vivian Seth usually
runic ether
also are you getting your disorder triggers right?
runic ether
remember if you hit corruption -> if u take even a millisecond of time too long before triggering assault, your damage actually disappears
rapid bough
planning anomaly triggers
imagine not just going full unga bunga
i straight up have never once paid attention to my anomaly buildup on any team, i always just button mash and whatever triggers, triggers
never had issues clearing stuff
runic ether
it can make a big difference in getting a clear or not
at least on content that doesnt outright favor jane
but if u do want her clearing almost anything, paying attention to the timing on triggers will net massive damage
u do have a rather generous timing window
glossy latch
Oh of course Lucy is way better
runic ether
around 1.5~ seconds
glossy latch
๐
rapid bough
seth do be kinda stinky
runic ether
seth really needs his m6
and he wants to be on his own ngl
he doesnt favor jane as much as we were lead to believe back then
rapid bough
nah jane is as proxy sexual as the rest of the agents
rapid bough
hard to argue jane and seth are a canon ship when i don't think they've interacted at all outside of jane's agent story
whereas she's had several proxy interactions since then and is probably the most overtly flirty member of the cast
rapid bough
and he wants to be on his own ngl
i'm convinced "seth dps" is a psyop you're running just to fuck with us
old galleon
wouldn't be the first seth good at dealing damage
runic ether
its not a psyop i just hang around the mains subreddits and cn adderall teens
rapid bough
lol fair
i just don't see how it would work, all his animations are so long and slow
runic ether
he has good anim cancel windows
rapid bough
he's basically built to be an off field support where you queue something up and swap off
runic ether
hes not as hard to play as haru
honestly
dps seth plays like how yixuan plays
u quickswap a lot and manual swap
man if he gave better buffs, he may have been goated for yixuan off his own damage at m6
rapid bough
i see the vision since his m6 does read like it's cracked
but god i can't imagine a world where that isn't clunky as shit because of how long the animation is
do you just abandon the quick assist it gives at the end and swap out early? wouldn't you lose the shield?
runic ether
yep
but you can refresh
oh shit nice
dottore is probably playable here
and varka is not a twink
alice has sleeves
this confirms she's not playable
hoyo's armpit fetish is too strong
this region honestly looks sick
rapid bough
also didn't realize seth's additional ability was kinda good... 20% shred for all anomaly resistance seems decent
i'm finding out that i may have just been using seth ultra wrong
rapid bough
all i ever did was defensive assist him in for the shield, queue up his ex quickly afterward and quick assist away while it was still up
rapid bough
basically his best attack is his hold-basic which i was never using 
imagine actually reading a character's kit
though in my defense, back when i actually used seth he was not yet m6
so significantly less impactful overall
runic ether
he was passable at that point in time
but nowdays, actually reading his kit, he def scales better
rapid bough
if you defensive assist him in for the shield and quick assist, can you queue up his hold-basic fast enough for it to start and still have the quick assist prompt up?
runic ether
i believe so
rapid bough
because if so that's kinda goated
runic ether
should be part of the basis for quickswapping
rapid bough
i was queuing up his ex special with that bit of extra time
shoulda been hold-basicing
at least when his resolve meter is up
i imagine you actually need to alternate, EX to build resolve when he doesn't have it and hold-basic when he does
glossy latch
Nearly S-ranked the full Shiyu
Shiyu 6 is the bottleneck this time
I hate Palicus
Though I probably also need to optimise my Jane gameplay still
summer hornet
MasterSkirk0618
YourSpaceTime
VoidStar0618
Genshin Redemption codes
Understood maybe a quarter of the trailer but it went hard
Shame about the lack of dubbing
runic ether
we are approaching end-game in genshin
(kinda not really)
moreso we finally are getting to know what the fuck has been going on in the background for a while
runic ether
im happy they are
with how mid and disorganized natlan was, if schneznaya was bad, it'd probably be over for genshin
so giving us a region of buffer before to also clean up other regions would do well for the game
plus, i expect this was planned long in advanced
glossy latch
Wait is Skirk fighting Surtalogi?
mortal iron
that's fair
glossy latch
Do we even know wtf that thing is?
runic ether
nope
not really
we have some guesses but
only loosely bc of how childe's foul legacy looks similar to it
and that surtalogi was keeping the whale as a pet
if u want true brainrot: it kinda looks like a voidranger from the anti-matter legion
and a lot of what nanook brings back look like leviathans/whale-themed dragons
digital marlin
looking at the enemy in the new Expert challenge its just an Ethereal version of the
Automaton Grizzlys from HSR
runic ether
the fat guy?
its very different model
but it does schmove somewhat similar if thats how the 3d environment would have it move imo
slow raft
i can choose 2 characters out of rina, koleda, lycanon or nekomata, who should i go for?
glossy latch
Rina and Lycaon are the two best ones here, at least on paper, does depend on your account tho
runic ether
i can choose 2 characters out of rina, koleda, lycanon or nekomata, who should i...
lycaon is goated. rina is good too. but imo, i lean lycaon
slow raft
yeah i got 2 thanks to the 300 pulls reward ive been saving
i figure at this point i migth aswell cash it in since im only getting dupes in my lost 50/50s
slow raft
have you hit 4-48 yet?
slow raft
i see
yeah many people have levied the criticism of "too long" at canto 4
certainly longer than all the cantos after it
long tree
What s rank engine should I pick
runic ether
brimstone for most ppl
unless u have been pulling a ton of attack wengines for your s ranks
the next up is dependent on your roster
koleda wengine is great on lighter and other stunners for the most part
the only one thats kinda whatever is lycaon wengine
nekomata wengine is only 20% worse than yixuan's personal if u have her and nothing else
glossy latch
Nvm S-ranked Shiyu
Evelyn is better than Jane + Vivian on this ๐
Werent we meant to get 20 pulls ontop of 1600 polychromes from login rewards?
runic ether
from daily logins
rapid bough
Evelyn is better than Jane + Vivian on this ๐
not surprising since you have her wengine and lighter lol
i've used eve/lighter/astra (ik you don't have astra but i don't have eve's wengine either) on fire resistant content and it's still outperformed my non-miyabi teams lol
synergy is just too strong
on that note, this rolly polly boss can go fuck itself
the phase after it gets its miasma shield and starts rolling around to divebomb you is dogshit
despite being fire weak, eve team this shiyu is kinda buns because the shiyu buff doesn't help her basically at all
but i am a simple man, i see fire weak i use eve
rapid bough
i mean all shiyus are easy for me to time and have been for a while, but i like optimizing my runs
glossy latch
Thats where I ended up clutching with Evelynns team
rapid bough
my first try was like a full minute worse
but i didn't bother posting my s6 time because i have two functioning ether teams so i just steamrolled that one
this is what it ended up being
rapid bough
yeah i don't have yixuan built at all yet
still a long way from using her in content atm
glossy latch
Im hoping to get her W engine soon
So I can try for Astra as well
At that point my account is basically all set up for any enemy weakness configuration
Even the rare and illusive double phys weak
runic ether
im still getting used to the fat fuck
rapid bough
i'm basically used to everything but his rolly polly phase
that phase seems like real bullshit to me
i swear the perfect dodge times for his divebombs are off
either that or i hit performance issues where my game hitches a fuckton of frames right when a divebomb happens and it eats up my dodge input
glossy latch
... oh right I still need the panda
rapid bough
i've noticed that happens on some bosses, notorious marionette does that to me
glossy latch
... oops
rapid bough
perils of getting yixuan in 6 rolls is that you never get her 4* optimal A rank partner lol
glossy latch
Yeaaaaah
Thats why I want to get the W engine early so I can pull for Astra and panda too
rapid bough
given both pan and astra are really good (pan for yixuan and astra in general), i'd prioritize pulling for astra since pan is on her banner too
rapid bough
guarantee's not going away ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
glossy latch
Im gonna get the weapon first and hope it happens early enough so I can maybe pull a couple times on Astras banner
Hopefully get at least a Panda
summer hornet
Also they made recruit messages faster, mega pog
I can stop dodging the ranged and sniper tags now
runic ether
the time was kinda bad and i was wondering what happened
turns out in my wengine shuffling i accidentally an engine
summer hornet
Lmfaooooooooooooooooooooo
runic ether
i wonder how hugo does vs dina
old galleon
Lmfaooooooooooooooooooooo
is that claude fire emblem
summer hornet
If it was, I still wouldnโt be able to romance him as a guy
runic ether
we got character preloads for orphie "magus" magnusson, yuzuha, and komano manato are in the slots. thats probably the 2.1 lineup
fuck. i kinda want all of them lol
and idk who i'd want to be an a rank
rapid bough
kinda don't care about any of the 3 right now but we'll see how things end up looking gameplay and story-wise
suspect it'll be a skip patch for me tho
well, depends on what reruns are i guess
if eve reruns then i'm getting her wengine at minimum
speaking of getting wengines, it occurs to me that pan is a defense agent and caesar's wengine is going to be available in the second half of 2.0
is caesar's wengine BIS for pan as well? that makes it even more appealing
runic ether
honest pawn
he's pretty...
runic ether
indeed
honest pawn
if he's not like terrible or anything I might download the game...
honest pawn
icy flicker
He is pretty great electric unit. Was Free (no idea if he still is) and yeah he is very pretty
runic ether
honestly learning him properly is just also a lot of fun
slow raft
X
wispy goblet
watched the collab announcement
wispy goblet
Don't forget ur CD KEY
NIKKESTELLARBLADE
Also
They're running a panel between the Nier devs and Shift Up
Could it be the fabled Nier rerun?
rapid bough
damn they cooked on these collab designs and the new scarlet skin
nier collab rerun is kinda cope but would be very blessed
wispy goblet
Depending on Eve's burst screen
I'll be very tempted to MLB
I won't, because that's out of my budget
But(t)
rapid bough
eve's shooting pose has me like
i feel like several characters/skins' worth of mediocre jiggle physics all went into eve instead lmao that is insane
wispy goblet
Problem:
Collab is running while I'll be on vacation
And because I got a desktop
I won't have a laptop to play Nikke (or ZZZ) on for a week
How big is ZZZ on phone
Asking for a friend
rapid bough
dunno, never tried installing it on mobile
i think i remember hearing it's like 20gb?
wispy goblet
I dunno how I'll make room for both ZZZ and Stellar Blade Mobile
But uh
Guess I'll find a way
rapid bough
but yeah i was kinda whatever about the stellar blade collab before these announcements but seeing the designs has gotten me on board
i had forgotten what a collab from an IP that's equally as goon as nikke could look like
wispy goblet
Of course they made the skinsuit the gacha skin
rapid bough
yeah lmao that was guaranteed
it's also greatly amusing to finally have an actual data point for the "gacha skins cost as much as an actual game" line
since now you can either roll the scarlet skin on gacha for (likely) $60, or buy stellar blade complete edition for $80 which gives the skin but also an entire actual game lol
old galleon
oh they made eve iron
they also made raven iron
i would say we might finally be getting iron content but they also had that chance post-rapi and didn't take it : ^)
wispy goblet
since now you can either roll the scarlet skin on gacha for (likely) $60, or buy...
The base game is $60
which would suggest the value of the skin is $20 or less (since you're getting more than just the skin for the difference)
old galleon
Finally did this
rapid bough
The base game is $60
which would suggest the value of the skin is $20 or less (s...
i know lol
that basically makes it the same value as a normal nikke skin
to be fair, the gacha costume pass also gives other goodies like pull vouchers and upgrade materials
which you won't get if you're just getting the skin off buying the stellar blade complete edition
but realistically those aren't why anyone buys a costume pass
wispy goblet
But(t)
You will be getting
A full DLC for another game
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except maybe the whalest of whales
also, now that they're rerunning skins, it's basically confirmed the goodies that are in any season/gacha pass aren't actually part of the price
since passes are $20, and so are rerun skins which don't have the pass bonuses
digital marlin
How big is ZZZ on phone
Asking for a friend
i have it downloaded and it looks to be 26 Gigs
long tree
Keep in mind that's only gonna balloon more
slow raft
X
old galleon
6k stones and she still won't come home but she has time to do whatever this is ๐
okay suddenly i guess i'm playing ace attorney
runic ether
slow raft
X
glossy latch
Wow ok WuWa really doesnt want me to get Brants weapon >:[
Fine Ill get Cartethyias then
Grumble grumble
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just finished watching the stellar blade collab livestream
it appears they cooked
one thing i did notice is that i could swear that scarlet's voice in the stellar blade DLC is her old VA (ratana), but her voice in the new nikke skin is the same temp VA that voices her in new year new sword and the SBS gacha skin
if so that is strange and makes me sad since ratana is amazing as scarlet and her new VA, while decent, just don't hit the same way
there is also something amusing (in the sad way) about the scarlet gacha skin being part of the complete edition promo, but the eve skinsuit gacha skin not being part of it
tfw you have to pay $60 for the eve gacha skin when you can just buy stellar blade and use it in the game for "free" (obviously you have to buy the game but you're getting a lot more out of $60 spent on a whole game than $60 spent on some awooga pixels lol)
i'm not particularly tempted by that gacha skin anyway, i think her base look + base burst ani are already really good
and the scarlet gacha skin looks... odd. the proportions are off, i hope they fix them
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i wonder if they're going to give 4 free pulls apiece or just 1
the only other times there have been two gacha skins running simultaneously they give 4 free pulls for each, but that's also only been during annis so uncertain whether that's an anni perk or a "2 gacha skins at once" perk
i assume the former, but this'll be the first time it happens outside an anni event so i guess we'll find out for sure
glossy latch
Oh apparently Cartethyia somehow got worse without CIaccona and her signature is more important than before
Damn ๐
Guess I really do have to get her signature
versed pawn
170 pulls m1 xi and sig
even got m5 panda
probably wait for next patch to get his last dupe from shop
uh
did they change her again
few days ago people where upset they buffed carthe mults 1 week before the patch which made her less reliant on cia
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170 pulls m1 xi and sig
that's pretty goddamn lucky lol
versed pawn
zzz is my blessed game
i still spend tho
got the topups from 30 downwards
keep the most expensive ones for units i want
glossy latch
did they change her again
Iunno, thats just what beta testers are saying
glossy latch
Ill see, Im just probably saving the 71 pity for her signature at this point
runic ether
need these as skins
versed pawn
wuwa does reruns pretty quick
just wandered arround and saw this
i pretty much emptied majority of this patch
man was i grinding like crazy
glossy latch
u could get cias weapon on rerun if u really care
Brants actually
I dont even have Cocaine
versed pawn
i probably will not pull for a while after carte since i have 3 complete decked out teams by then
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glossy latch
Got the W-Engine within 13 rolls
Thats 38 rolls for 3 W-engines, 2 of them signatures
Jesus
Well back to farming for rolls for Astra I guess
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game sent you an olive branch after denying you hugo i guess
glossy latch
More like multiple lmao
Im not about to complain though
Maybe Ill even get lucky for Astra ๐ค
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wait 3 wengines? what's the third? i thought you got s11's in a single 10 rull and now got yixuan's
glossy latch
Yep
And the last time I rolled on that banner before that was when I get Evelyns in 15
runic ether
my weapon luck in genshin is still p nutty too
glossy latch
And WuWas was only good to me once
runic ether
at least wuwa cant lose the 75/25 to
glossy latch
Yep
But Im usually going deep into pity ๐
And in HSR I have never pulled on a weapon banner
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my ZZZ weapon banner luck has been basically mid
i've only pulled for two sigs, both took me to early soft pity but i haven't lost a 75/25 yet
i'll definitely crash out after being taken to pity and then losing a 75/25
runic ether
weapon banner pity at least is lower
glossy latch
I will say though, I really do wish they didnt focus as much on "goonerbait" with Yixuans design
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my guy you are playing the wrong game
glossy latch
I am aware
Jokes aside, ZZZ does manage to mix that stuff with good designs with some characters
But less so with Yixuan
runic ether
buy her skin to goon less is a choice
her anims and voice and character genuinely dont fit the og outfit tho
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i was kinda whatever about her base outfit for a while but now that we know more about her character i think i like it more
before it felt like it was pure goonbait, so instead of leaning into the "eastern mystical grandmaster" aesthetic they could've gone for they just gave her a low cut top with a bunch of cleavage and booty shorts
but now we know she is the complete opposite of the "eastern mystical grandmaster"-type and plays it up only as a placebo for people who are looking for it to feel better
glossy latch
I think thats fine its just like
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so the elements of her design that are more steampunky actually fit, since her personality is much more toward that end of the spectrum anyway
glossy latch
You can do a mix of eastern mystic and modern practical clothes without going full on latex suit and breasts the size of honeymelons
glossy latch
I swear they exaggerate the jiggle on those in her default animation on the character select screen
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ZZZ is a known low-g environment
glossy latch
I mean
glossy latch
Jane Doe is a femme fatale and hers dont jiggle nearly as much
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there's 100% been goon and jiggle powercreep since jane
i actually think eve might have the most jiggle in the game
across all her animations anyway
glossy latch
Maybe, I havent noticed it though
But yeah I guess thats just a personal issue with ZZZ
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like if zhu yuan was made again today the cheek movement would be legendary
as-is she has almost no jiggle
game's just doubled down on that aspect of character design as time's worn on
runic ether
i actually think eve might have the most jiggle in the game
manato will creep her
i think only yixuan has bigger boobs than he does
glossy latch
game's just doubled down on that aspect of character design as time's worn on
And Im not a fan
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you knew what you were getting into the minute that jane demo hit
you could've gotten off the wild jiggly ride
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i think only yixuan has bigger boobs than he does
i'm still not convinced yixuan has the biggest chest in the game
haven't billibili's finest scientists determined rina's the goat on both chest and butt size
and caesar's way up there for chest too
glossy latch
I mean I think Janes design doesnt sacrifice as much for hornybait as Yixuans does
I dont think Janes design is perfect, but it has a lot of nice touches
runic ether
haven't billibili's finest scientists determined rina's the goat on both chest a...
idk i feel like its cope
shes huge
(yixuan)
idt rina and caesar close the gap
though they come close
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I mean I think Janes design doesnt sacrifice as much for hornybait as Yixuans do...
again, there has absolutely been goon powercreep since jane
glossy latch
Like her usually having her thumbs in those straps over her chest mimicing a rat pose
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i actually think most of jane's goon bait was outside the game
runic ether
ripped leggings is sexy
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no PV/teaser for any character matches the sheer sexual energy she projected in hers
runic ether
yea in-game, jane is way more like...
glossy latch
And she is a femme fatale, so it makes sense for her to lean into it
runic ether
and honestly
this does apply to almost all characters
they really arent as sexualized in game
fanservicey yeag
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i mean that depends on what you mean
runic ether
*yeah
but like, there isnt any "oh oops my top fell off" or "my buttons cant hold my blouse!" sexualization
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they are absolutely sexualized with sheer leggings/shorts on big asses and huge tits
but no one's going out there pointing it out
it's just them all being passively hot
runic ether
yeah the actual game doesnt really reference it more or less
which is good imo
they are subtle in text
for the most part
i cant think of any comments about someone's breasts or ass in-game
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i don't think i've seen any but there have definitely been a few trust events that are like vague "X character gets close to proxy and proxy can smell their perfume or notices their figure" or some shit
runic ether
even the marketing brings attention of course but they arent like. raunchy about it. even the caesar demo having the girls showering was more used for the comedy of how "guy-like" and casual caesar is
especially when compared to lucy being such a diva
glossy latch
Anyway, its not like WuWa doesnt have a similar issue (and moreso an issue with how few male characters WuWa is releasing)
God some of the concept art really makes me wish we got the game they were originally aiming for
long tree
The world is not ready for when ceaser learns what being a lesbian is, we're talking massive cringe fail flirting
runic ether
caesar isnt that dumb
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also the best aspect of yixuan's design is her birb pfp in the texting app (i forget what its in-unvierse name is)
glossy latch
Having Rover be an outright Eldritch creature would've gone so hard
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this shit is so fucking funny
long tree
caesar isnt that dumb
figures out she is one then
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that's absolutely SSSSSS-tier dork material
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absolute cinema
runic ether
i dont main yixuan, i main this bird with a weird number of eyes in weird places
runic ether
genshin issue too lmao
glossy latch
And the final game is all pale
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isn't that a distinct issue in basically all CN gachas
long tree
You could just say gachas in general
runic ether
as i said, i just cant take wuwa seriously when i saw lupa in the trailer and her pose and ass looked exactly like the pantless mydei mod
rapid bough
You could just say gachas in general
nikke has plenty of choco-nikkes
long tree
nikke has plenty of choco-nikkes
Its different when its used for sex appeal
runic ether
zzz is decently varied. not great, but okay
glossy latch
Even this character didnt make the cut
runic ether
nekomata and komano
glossy latch
And shes probably one of the most conventionally attractive of all the concept art
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Its different when its used for sex appeal
i guess but not sure i follow in this case because basically every character in nikke is used for sex appeal
when everyone's super...
runic ether
ik both vaguely japanese but both are humanoid thirens
and their ear fluff is similar
glossy latch
Tbh I think with WuWa they just got told to rein things in during their concept stage and go for more like
Easily marketable
runic ether
i wonder if they share a father
glossy latch
Becuase they had some wild ideas
long tree
Dragalia lost my beloved i will never forget how your first limited character was a black man ๐
runic ether
one man in his effort to lay with a cat thiren and a wolf/dog thiren
long tree
He was hot too
glossy latch
Like a region that was basically a dried up chunk of sea with a bunch of luminescent corals and stuff like that
Or mobile cities as a big theme
Instead we got 1.0 WuWa which was ... hm
long tree
He was also queer
runic ether
her concept art having full on skeletal fish-like bones across her
she looked so cool
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nikke has plenty of choco-nikkes
come to think of it nikke has been pretty decent at having at least dipping its toes into other body types. chubby, muscular, other skin tones, etc
runic ether
we saw her outside of combat, she was kinda boring but then we see her combat and woops
glossy latch
The curse of capitalism ๐
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obviously to a limited extent because all the characters are still conventionally attractive as a baseline
but it at least has more variety than most gacha i've seen
long tree
Oh shit yeah dragalia also had a black dude in their standard 5 star pool
He sucked ass but they buffed him later and he was like the best wind unit
runic ether
skirk when she isnt even that much better than ayaka
runic ether
but it at least has more variety than most gacha i've seen
zzz has also been decently varied for a gacha. especially with furries
runic ether
pan yi hun m6 where hes laying back sexily has made some ppl bark
the same way ben's m6 has him in a tank top
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i'm not even remotely gay but i can't really blame people for going a bit feral for lycaon tbh
runic ether
ik some ppl who awoke to being gay and furries bc of lycaon
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it is known
glossy latch
I am not surprised
runic ether
some ppl dislike hugo for the gay undertones with lycaon bc they want lycaon for themselves
glossy latch
Hunk with a pleasant voice and a usually calm demeanor
glossy latch
Hes not my type but I get it
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some ppl dislike hugo for the gay undertones with lycaon bc they want lycaon for...
this is very much just a "gooner gacha" thing lol
glossy latch
Granted I dont think anyone in ZZZ is my type lmao
runic ether
this is very much just a "gooner gacha" thing lol
women are way bigger gooners than men
see: love and deepspace
idle grove
lmao I was justa bout to say that
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i am down AWFUL for eve for more than just her design
runic ether
i get it
runic ether
anby is of age
glossy latch
Idk the latex doesnt do it for me
long tree
So autistic she can hear the boss music
glossy latch
For me its moreso that shes short and has a more, hm
runic ether
im p sure the music we hear in-game is actually playing on the w-engine and disc drives
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see: love and deepspace
i know the PvP sensor tower revenue reports are more memes than anything but it's really enlightening seeing love and deepspace top revenue every month and only be going up
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CN husbando gacha
long tree
im p sure the music we hear in-game is actually playing on the w-engine and disc...
She has a line where she goes like "did the music just get more sinister?" Or something, i think she's the only character to point it out
long tree
Husbando soft core h gacha that also has a period tracker in it
runic ether
ungodly amount of money
glossy latch
... huh
long tree
Shit is like consistently top 3 isnt it
runic ether
usually #1
glossy latch
Wild
runic ether
by far
runic ether
it did
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since pokemon is an ungodly money printer
glossy latch
Kinda funny that in every gacha I play there's like, one character I find attractive
long tree
That do be how it work
glossy latch
And only 2 of them are women in suits
rapid bough
there are many characters i find attractive across all the games i play but some of them just hit me different
unironically from waifu to wife
runic ether
She has a line where she goes like "did the music just get more sinister?" Or so...
also for this, thats part of what i mean. i think others dont bring it up bc they arent autistic but anby does despite everyone hearing it
glossy latch
Alhaitham is close, but his personality is more amusing than attractive
long tree
Alhaitham got the piccolo genes
glossy latch
Which is to say, Alhaitham is an asshole, but by god is he a funny asshole
long tree
Mf aura farms by default and effortlessly
runic ether
waifu to wife is a good way to put it
runic ether
i have multiple wives
in zzz
this game just tickles the right design aspects for me overall
rapid bough
there are many characters i find attractive across all the games i play but some...
it's actually a bit of a struggle in ZZZ because previously eve was a clear winner for me here but yixuan is getting damn close and i don't have room in my heart (or wallet) for two mains
long tree
I have none because theyre not tall enough or muscled or big enough for me
runic ether
lycaon, soldier 11, harumasa, hugo, miyabi for me
glossy latch
Cartethyia was designed specifically to appeal to Jot
runic ether
oh i would also add in anby
long tree
They wanted her to be 6ft
runic ether
i really like anby
glossy latch
Oh yeah that reminds me, did you watch the summer games fest thing yesterday Jot?
runic ether
i was sad i didnt get silver anby but i just wouldnt use her
i fucking love eve too
but same deal
long tree
Every time they challenged me on it I added a foot to her height
long tree
Oh yeah that reminds me, did you watch the summer games fest thing yesterday Jot...
No I did not
glossy latch
Ah hold on then
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eve, yixuan, yanagi, astra are prolly my top 4. miyabi and zhu yuan are close, i think zhu yuan may actually enter my top few once she gets some story focus again. she's been sadly forgotten of late
glossy latch
What do you think of this She-Hulk design
long tree
Not my favourite design for her tbh
glossy latch
Huh
long tree
Mainly just art style
runic ether
in genshin, arlecchino. childe. chiori. and yelan.
long tree
Muscles are goood
glossy latch
... wait who was Chiori again
runic ether
i do love furina though
runic ether
... wait who was Chiori again
glossy latch
Furina is probably my favourite character in Genshin
long tree
... wait who was Chiori again
She make-a de clothes
glossy latch
And she is cute
glossy latch
But I also dunno if I'd feel comfortable dating someone like Furina
Poor girls therapist needs a therapist
runic ether
oh i almost forgot clorinde
glossy latch
Like Furina is undeniably the GOAT of the Archons
And I have nothing but respect for her
long tree
Id like clorinde but even i cant self delude myself into thinking she likes men
runic ether
raiden is my "hoyo wife" as a whole though
glossy latch
But I dont think any relationship with her would be healthy
runic ether
when the add raiden to zenless itll be over for me
glossy latch
Id like clorinde but even i cant self delude myself into thinking she likes men
The term "sword lesbian" was invented for women like her
long tree
At least I have my soft boi in genshin
glossy latch
As for WuWa, Zani is great
glossy latch
Its so funny how Zani is just "massively overworked woman"
runic ether
i do like fugue and sunday too
long tree
Its strange the more of hsr men I see the less I like them
runic ether
i'd be all over zani if i played wuwa
long tree
Jingyuan will probably always be my favourite hsr guy
glossy latch
Genshin?
long tree
Feck
runic ether
to this day though, the 200 i spent on acheron for her e2 is the most i've spent on gacha
and next time she comes around, she's going e6
idk if i'll go r5
runic ether
but i will consider it
long tree
Jing yuan just loved me enough to gift me his e2 and light cone in 40 pulls
runic ether
also, im getting the cat
cus she is a buff to acheron
im invested atp
even if a sidegrade
long tree
runic ether
her voice is so good
honestly, after the 3.3 story, she gapped a ton of characters for a fave spot
rapid bough
nikke has so many to choose from but probably my favorite design+personality combos are anis, helm, naga, and blanc/noir. arcana was a recent release whose event endeared her to me very quickly too so she's way up there but there might be some recency bias at play there
runic ether
ye
glossy latch
Her voice is nice but like
runic ether
thats why i wait to claim a fave
glossy latch
I expected something way more cutesy
runic ether
once the recency bias leaves, if i still like the character, thats wife
long tree
THERE'S TOO MANY TO CHOOSE FROM
Death
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bready is actually too down awful for me though
runic ether
for me in limbus rn, its absolutely faust and heathcliff
i really like these 2 sinners
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Death
grave is way up there in my rankings even if i didn't name her, if that's any consolation
long tree
I bet yall couldn't possibly guess who i liked in limbus
runic ether
that said, limbus only having 12 characters, means that they really do involve and focus on all 12
they are all good
but my 2 faves are faust and heathcliff
runic ether
I bet yall couldn't possibly guess who i liked in limbus
meursault?
u seem like a meursault fan
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i honestly don't think there's a character across all the games i play that's hit me quite like eve in ZZZ though
she's just so peak
long tree
HONG LU BAYBEE
runic ether
wtf
long tree
runic ether
thats an easy pick
long tree
Fluffy boi
runic ether
hes so cute
meursault would have been a harder guess
granted meursault is so fucking funny
unintentionally but he is
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nikke has so many to choose from but probably my favorite design+personality com...
oh fuck i forgot ludmilla here. she's also absolute wife material
wispy goblet
thankfully I'm overleveled enough
that I can clear the story content I'm at with Yi Xuan/Nicole/Zhu Yuan without trouble
runic ether
i honestly don't think there's a character across all the games i play that's hi...
me with raiden
long tree
thankfully I'm overleveled enough
that I can clear the story content I'm at with...
Yi xuan no panda?
runic ether
c3r1 in genshin, e2s1 in hsr
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Yi xuan no panda?
he is a waifu gamer
wispy goblet
c3r1 in genshin, e2s1 in hsr
despite my years of being a brony I am not a furry
runic ether
she will be m2p1 in zzz
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LMAO
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he meant to quote jot
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slowly but surely across future reruns i will m6 eve
wispy goblet
yeah I meant to quote Jot there
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she's the only character i feel compelled to do that for
i want to have any excuse to use her, and m6w1 eve (esp with lighter+astra) will 100% demolish any and all content (tbf, most m6 DPS will)
runic ether
if u had caught the genshin craze, yelan probs would have done the same to you
long tree
despite my years of being a brony I am not a furry
If i can live having to put sunday on my team you can live putting a panda on yours
runic ether
okay being fr, i dont think i dislike any character in zzz
i'd have a hard time picking a strict number 1
rapid bough
i don't think i do either, though there are some i'm just very whatever about
wispy goblet
I'd say my favorite characters in Nikke are Guillotine and Crust
as far as waifus specifically, though
Maiden, Soda, and Arcana are up there for sure
long tree
Yelan and raiden hit the genshin community like reagen funnelling crack into lower income neighbourhoods
runic ether
however we do know she has a playable character id
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i find it difficult to separate how peak nicole's design is (she got me into the game) from how annoying she actually can be in-game lol
runic ether
not named raiden just the girl who looks like her from the void hunter trailer
runic ether
i find it difficult to separate how peak nicole's design is (she got me into the...
she can do no wrong
rapid bough
i know nicole has a heart of gold and i love her for that
but the constantly penny pinching grates on me
long tree
Gaslight (your proxy regarding what money you owe) gatekeep (your money) girlboss (self explainitory)
runic ether
god forbid women have hobbies
rapid bough
correct!