#Gacha Chat
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fucking finally
now we only need an np upgrade 
collab art is in penacony with vita
im guessing vita will be the first hi3rd to come to hsr since she has canonically become a masked fool
im pretty convinced we're gonna get vita
and here the main DC hoped to escape Virgil memes
is this hsr?
thats vita the newest masked fool
japan's most dateable genshin man is... wrio??
i appreciate the duke but what the hell
unexpected that he beat out xiao and childe and kazuha and thoma
wow
kayea being 20 is surpusing?
and kazuha being 10 is also increidbly surpurisng
kinich gaming and wrio are the 3 new additions to the top
kazuha is older (in terms of release)
wuwa?
Starrail
wow
Only missing the other 2 parts of the event was busy farming the new simulated universe
Only 2 occurrences and 2 relics left
areo pulling waifu before meta i see
ok
I mean a good story can change a life lol
I don't even know why I pulled
yeah but so can an incredibly fat ass
lmfao
mabye its just new so i remember it more
Tho I haven't prefarmed tappa so I can't tell
i need to save for sunday and fugue next patch
:icant:
meta sheep smh
and im likely buying e2 acheron this 2nd half
then dont
I just want youhu 
i really need better artis for my two main teams rn
But I don't want jiyan
It's a game
and i might also build ratio/moze
So play with your heart, as long as said heart doesn't bankrupt you
so i can run ratio moze aventurine topaz
Lol
I wanna do them ass parrys
claras so awesome but she can feel so bad against some fucking enemies
Still haven't build her maybe next patch
shes my only build character
or well build
but i also havent playted
since beginning of game
and the lightning girl
Ye she can solo like everything
i spent like so many bad decisions
just to make her good
cause that was fun
basically being a 1 hit
but doing mad damage
shes like a good blade
:rolf
There's like newer holograms like the crownless or Inferno rider with new moves that do a lot of hurto
Tactical hologram
ohh
the hardest one for me was uhhh the light dude
that if u parryt
did a big attack back
Kage no bullshit no jutsu
Just Mephis clone attacking seperately
Or you u mean mourning aix
The birb
Aix has a weired hitbox on one attack
no it has the thing
where if u like parry its attack
it sends like 5 unblockable missles
and when ur perm on 1
u cant do jack shit about that
Solo u need to have like a specific distance to him to dodge all blade or 1-2 will clip you
Or get close to a wall since they apparently dissappear in them
Otherwise u dodge with the I frames from a intro attack or ult
Latter is helpful vs crownless because he has like a long ass 10 hit combo or something
are you trying to make me fall to temptation
unrelated but 1. how much space does it take up, and 2. how does it perform on bluestacks?
It's less than Genshin or Star Rail
does the base update finally kill the 252 setup : ^)
that's a low bar since those games are enormous
- currently looks like just under 10gb
- it has a dedicated PC client, so no need for bluestacks
just under 10 gb for the pc client?
it's just under 10gb on my phone, i'm having trouble finding where it's stored on my PC lol
ok nm found it, the majority of its size ends up going to appdata
launcher + all of those files looks like around 14-15 gb on PC
makes me wish al finally did its own pc clinet
it works on bluestacks but there are times it gets weird bugs that they never seem to fix
for example there's one when you pull a gold or occasionally go into a gold's page and exit out too quickly or something, it causes one of the layers of the game to have this weird gold on it
don't think i've ever encountered that on my bluestacks
if i ever replicate it again i'll post it
and with the bugs i do encounter, i'm always uncertain whether it's bluestacks specifically or actually AL as a whole
it's a weird effect
account name must be 6-16 characters
argor is only 5
damn making me add the 42 at the end : ^)
for a while, opening the new 3d dorm for the first time any given day would cause my game to crash
no idea if that was a bluestacks thing but it was quite annoying
seems to have been fixed with tempesta patch though so probably not just bluestacks
opening mine takes a while to load it in but that's probably less bluestacks and more my computer being a bit older
but i haven't tried since new update so maybe i will
gonna take a guess that rerolling nikke isn't worth the pain
uhhhhhh
i myself rerolled about 8 times, it takes like 10-15 mins per reroll, and honestly i got pretty lucky to get my god roll within 8
understand i'm diving in completely blind so
in general i'd say no though, not unless you're overly concerned with getting a headstart by guaranteeing early meta nikke pulls
also my early game luck in gachas tends to be overwhelmingly high
also with the new 100 standard roll pity they're adding on anni patch next week, i think the answer will definitely become no
because one of the nikkes to aim for in a reroll currently is liter
but now you can get her guaranteed after 100 pulls
so eh
is there any particular benefit to starting the account during anni as opposed to now?
well, i doubt the new 100 standard roll pity will be retroactive so any pulls on standard banner you do now won't contribute to that which is unfortunate
like gbf has a system where you get a beginner banner roll based on the banner that was up when you started
nikke doesn't do that, but you do get an early 10-roll that will have a guaranteed standard SSR in it
does that go on standard roll or is it its own banner?
i think it counts toward standard
one benefit of starting now vs anni is that you can do the currently running event and get free pulls from the event shop
well the counterargument is that if i delay starting, that means less progress
what's the current event and how feasible is it for a new player to get out of?
a new player can definitely clear enough of the new event to get the 20 free pull currency (10 standard + 10 rate up)
nikke has 3 "temporary participation nikke" that are high level and can used infinite times during the event
oh well that just sounds cheesy
so new players can just use them for content that beginner parties can't handle
they're pretty indispensable for early progression and should honestly be considered a catch-up mechanic lol
anyway i think i'm just gonna bind this one and probably not bother rerolling
🫡
(haven't actually gotten into game yet but i assujme that's how it works?
you can use salted emails to reroll with no consequences, like if your email was [email protected] you can just do argor42+1@gmail, argor42+2@gmail, etc
rerolls require running through the early tutorial and take like 10-15 mins per
there's no real "binding"
yeah i wouldn't worry overmuch about it
If i want the new player stuff from the anni, i assumr i can still start early?
in my experience, for most games, rerolling is a totally meaningless exercise
when it comes to getting standard banner nikkes, rerolling is pretty unnecessary
this and/or oberon are probably the biggest exceptions to that rule, yes
it's only really used as a tool to guarantee an early pilgrim, which are rarer nikkes that are almost always very strong
and even then that's mostly just a QoL thing
the early game is dead easy and can be beaten with basically any party
cannot be overstated how big a qol either of those two are
anni is still a week away
all those freebies i linked earlier only start then
Yeah but i mean you daid theres stuff for new players
Am i gonna be able to get that if i start now, a week early, or is it gonna count me as not a new player anymore
game starts doing its thing
hit with instant opera
alrighty then
oh those are gonna be for literally everyone, even me who's coming up on a year PT
i was just saying they'll benefit new players more
Nyaruhodo
won't be the last time that happens
i'm just saying that certainly sets a tone for what i expect the story to be
not the first time i've been hit with that kind of vibe in a gacha
on an unrelated note
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welcome aboard your latest depression simulator, hope you enjoy
well my download's taking a bit but that's expected
i'll find some time later to get a start on it
btw i don't know if you have a preference for JP, KR, EN, etc depending on options available but i can wholeheartedly recommend the english dub
The story in NIKKE is genuinely better than I thought it would be, though it still starts moderately cookie cutter
they really spared no expense getting a good voice cast
i usually play english dubs if they're available
current exception is another eden since i started with the jp and got used to it
yeah no doubt, though some of its best stories are actually told in events
overzone especially is amazing, as is red ash
i'm not some anti-dub elitist or whatever
gotta unlock those in the archives and play through
even random ones like nya nya paradise can actually make me cry
sometimes they just strike a particular chord
regi posted his profile, here's mine though my friends list is maxed out so you won't be able to add me lol
thank goodness the profile card covers the summer rosanna burst animation underneath which i would normally not be able to post here
anyway, next question
how big, if it's a thing, is gear in this game?
you know from al that gear is king over there
it's pretty big but not in the same sense as azur lane which has a huge variety of it
initially there are 3 nikke types (attack, defense, support) and 4 slots for gear (head, chest, hands, feet), and said slots are distributed per type
so 12 pieces total but it's obvious where each piece goes, and all pieces are made equal, so there's no AL bamboozling where a gold piece of gear is actually shit and shouldn't be used or something
later on it gets a bit more complex with manufacturer gear which i won't explain since it's not relevant at the start
that some unique gear or something?
sorta. it's gear that gets a bonus when equipped on nikkes of a certain manufacturer, which are the equivalent of factions in AL
there are 5 factions (elysion, missilis, tetra, pilgrim, and abnormal, though abnormal is kind of a cop-out since it's only collab units)
and are "faction teams" any decent or is it an al situation where you just use the best available
that gear eventually becomes your endgame gear and has a whole lot of RNG rolling for the best bonuses attached to it
some games actually make faction comps more worthwhile, not sure if this one's in tha tcamp or the al camp
there is content that will force you to use faction teams, so it's obviously relevant there
outside that, it's best available
tbh i'm surprised al hasn't done the same yet
faction comps really aren't a thing in nikke though, i can't think of any skills that are like "other tetra nikkes gain 30% ATK" or something
there are other types of synergies, like buffing other attacker nikkes, or there are also element damage bonuses (water, fire, electric, iron, wind) that can be buffed
but i don't think there are any faction buffers
is this another game where the earth element is dead?
iron == earth, honestly idk why they named it that
and the elements that nikkes get assigned seems largely arbitrary. right now water is the weakest since its strongest units are
- a winter seasonal limited unit that we're still waiting for a rerun on
- re:zero collab units that will probably never rerun, rip
water is the weakest
where have i heard that before
elemental advantage really doesn't matter except for endgame raid content anyway
but there it becomes crucial since you'll often need at least one nikke of the correct element to break a boss shield or something
if there's anything i know about games with elemental advantage, at some point in that game's life, it becomes critically important
it happened with granblue, definitely
for general gameplay i can't remember when i have ever cared about it, it's always just best units available
most relevant on-element content having enormous damage reduction for other elements, for example
i only start concerning myself with it in raid content
i guess there's also a recently added game mode called simulation room overclock where it matters too, but that's about it
and it only matters if you make it matter, since it's a game mode where you pick your poison out of a bunch of different ways to make it harder for increased rewards
is that their experiment with roguelike stuff or something?
wow, this 90++ node looks annyoing af
i wouldn't really call it roguelike, since your power-ups and enemy buffs are set in stone as soon as you start
correct
is it just pretender go brr or what
i swiped a chloe/elisa/castoria/oberon comp from the spreadsheet but it sucks
but it may be them experimenting with buffs to give enemies in a future roguelike mode i guess
wave 3 is a huge range and there's a legit non-zero chance (although it's low) that wave 3 just doesn't clear
and that's with mlb bg on chloe
oh another advantage of starting nikke right now is the free red hood skin, i think that expires this month and is prolly never coming back
it's got the quality of their $60 gacha skins but it's free
so worth
login, points ladder, some other means?
you'll get it immediately on login
she was the winner of this year's popularity poll so she got a free costume
and i assume red hood is gacha
yeah, and she's a pilgrim unit which are rarer than other normal units and can't be wishlisted in any way
but she's the best unit in the game and the skin is good + free
so why not pick it up
and where have i heard this before
new gbf players having bubs flashbacks
unfortunately most of the best units in the game are pilgrim units
is that just nikke's grand system
nah i'd compare them to azur lane URs
gbf has two gala banners per month which have various limited charactesr on them you can only roll at that time
hm
nah pilgrim units can be pulled from all standard gacha
they're just rarer
new ones release on anniversaries and get rate-up banners for that duration, and then enter the standard pool
this upcoming anni is gonna release 2 new pilgrims at once which is new
also, i just realized that i am incredibly stupid
whenever i fielded my bazett i would deliberate really hard which of my own support to use for her of all the meta ones
but i somehow forgot that i have a 10/10/10 summer skadi until just now

trauma response to the np2 jeanne i got when i pulled for her ig
on the upside you get to enjoy jalter's animation update 2 years early
oh i mispelled
like here's the first row of my character list sorted by power, with pilgrim units starred
3 pilgrims in the top 5 when most gameplay is parties of 5 should say basically everything
lol why is that so big
dammit paint
it was especially insulting becuase i saw that sweet golden ruler card
wait spooked by jeanne while going for s skadi?
i mean jeanne does eventually get better
but holy shit
i would flip
okay something on my computer is triggering nikke's anti-cheat
so i need to figure that out
after i relocate
damn can't believe argor is a cheater
argor really cheats?
no dignity
yeah im not figuring one out on my own, time to consider the spreadsheet
unironically
i think im gonna go one lower
god damn, the constant 10-pulls over the last few weeks of azur lane have reminded me just how much of a coin sink pulls are
before this run of events i was sitting pretty on more money than i knew what to do with
now i'm in conservation mode just to make sure i have enough to pull
drake MLB acquired
i know she's never been particularly strong as far as rainbows go, but with my limited dock she's still probably one of my better available vanguard units
still got fs5 left for her too
drake bad is a meme
she's not as good compared to other options, mainly rainbow options
and there are some newer golds comparable to her
but she still steamrolls much of the game
yeah she's a member of the "early rainbow that has been powercrept" club
but even a powercrept rainbow is still in the top 5% of usable ships
i particularly like her self-heal on barrage, will probably use her as a mob tank for a while so i can use agir/anchorage elsewhere
that'll give me time to get her fs5 when her skills change to let her work better in other slots too
also time to unlock azuma for my last coinable DR until series 4 gets it and i can coin haku (and hopefully some day agir) to fs5
alleged CN nikke censorship not lookin too hot
i feel like i've seen censored azur lane skins that show significantly more than even the uncensored versions of anis (left) and rapi (right) here
wonder if it's azur lane being made by a domestic developer and nikke being foreign-made
also this isn't in-game art, it's promotional, so there's a possibility it's just overcensored for marketing purposes and it won't be that bad in-game... but yikes
hell, i feel like ZZZ is getting away with more overt fanservice than this right the hell now lol
hoyo privilege i imahine
wouldn't be the least bit surprised if hoyo has some leeway
but also may be that CN devs get more leeway in general
i feel like these arent bad but they feel lazy rather than anything
covered up more but not in an interesting way
the laziness is really obvious on the right character's (rapi) chest
like even ignoring the breast reduction
all definition is gone from her jacket lol
it just looks like a t-shirt
yeah it feels like an edit
not a real rework
reducing breast size? sure can say shes on a sports bra now whatever but it like lost texture/detail
yeah
could be just nikke devs being extra safe cus its their first time coming in to china?
entirely possible but hard to say for sure without seeing what in-game looks like
i can totally understand if they play it ultra safe with promo art
ultimately the thing to look out for is future character designs and how they adapt to a new market for the whole market
as in: hoyo doesnt compromise on their designs for each nation same with arknights from what i've seen
every region gets basically if not just the exact same art
fwiw apparently nikke has been cooking this push into CN since january, and let me tell you that some of its raunchiest designs have been released since then
so it sure feels to me like potential CN censorship hasn't compromised their designs elsewhere
which is interesting. feels like they would try and mold their designs as a whole to fit all regions cus then u dont have to work too much to do any additional censors
here's an example of a censored design from the recent summer event (refer to the bottom left note that this is only for marketing)
i can't post the uncensored design here, if you want to see it look up "rosanna chic ocean"
but this at least seems to be an example of a censored design that they at least were somewhat creative with
all the floral parts of the censored design aren't in the uncensored art
man really called this "censored"
could easily see that being the "censored" design for nikke,yes
feel free to look up the actual design to understand
you have no idea how restrained that image is relative to its in-game appearance
the in-game appearance i'm not posting for good reason, lol
wtf OC3 boss has EQ levels of HP and forced support
somehow always locks down my rulers' buster cards
Man hoyo could make a real good mecha game if they tried
@rapid bough how viable are the purples and blues generally? idk how many golds i'll have access to in the short term so i figure i'll have to run some of them but are they particularly usable beyond the early game?
no
nikke is gold spam
purples/blues may as well not exist for any serious content
with like one or two exceptions for pvp
anis has a gold summer alt that is quite good
rapi is still waiting for a gold alt on her end
i've seen her, but probably won't get her anytime soon assuming she doesn't show up normally
it's basically a meme in the community at this point
rapi SSR alt is shift-ups "break glass in case of emergency"
yeah she's only available during summer events, she'll be back in like august next year
lmao
you'll get one guaranteed gold from the first tutorial 10-pull
and SSR rate besides that is 4%
oh right, is there any sort of delay between global and...korea i think?
whatever it was introduced in
and ofc like all gacha it'll throw a bunch of standard vouchers at you at the start
nope
so no clairvoyance then
well i don't live in china so that doesn't apply to me
indeed
so i guess i'll treat it sort of like azur lane in that way
probably won't get too reckless with pulls
honestly i'd try getting as far as you can without pulling at all
if you save your pulls until anni drops, that's when the 100 pull guaranteed pity will be introduced
oh also that default tutorial roll, i assume a bunch of the characters are just guaranteed from it?
i doubt it'll be retroactive so if you can save your pulls until after that's added you can rack up some free progress
it's any non-pilgrim standard pool nikke
pretty sure she's not good
i'm logging back in so i don't have my roster in front of me this second
but oh well
like i said, i'm not rerolling, it's fine
wheenver the game lets me grab it i'll at least grab that red hood skin
the 100 pull pity that's being added on the anni patch will let you choose between liter, naga, and alice
all of which are extremely good, but liter in particular is absolutely the pick if you don't get her otherwise
at some point i'll put an effort to learning mechanics
but i need to get acclimated to everything else first
i'd worry primarily about getting as far as you can in the campaign, and making sure you clear your 5 event stages per day
the game's idle resource gain is tied to campaign progression
so the farther you get there, the more idle resources you'll earn
well if the game would let me in i'd go work on that lol
for w/e reason logging in takes a long time for me
i have no idea why but nikke has inordinately long login and loading times
even on PC
easily the longest of any gacha game i've played
been stuck on 5/7 for like 10 mins now it's insane
even ae on steam is faster
also i'll assume by default that all the tier lists i assume are out there for this game aren't too meaningful
bc i found a tier list aggregator which divorces the lists from any of their contexts, apparently
but my experience with tier lists (yes even ectl in azur lane) is that at most they can be a quick reference but aren't an end-all
you're definitely stuck somewhere then
it's long but not that long
try restarting
the two tier lists i know of for nikke are prydwen and nikke.gg
both are fine and should have separate lists for certain parts of the game
e.g. campaign, pvp, bossing, etc
they're generally pretty reliable, the one thing to be wary of is that they ofc assume endgame
so alice for instance will be very high in both tier lists
but she is extremely investment heavy and actually kinda sucks before you get optimal gear
so just blindly following the tier list can be misleading in that sense
but the placement of most characters is reasonably reliable to get an idea of how good they are
nah it finally loaded
well it also dropped a random 2gb download for seemingly no reason
but i'm in now
but yeah i don't mind lists assuming endgame
in most games pretty much anything can work for simple progression
but i'm also not some complete idiot who bases all his value judgments of units based on what a tier list says
there aren't as many caveats to nikke character tier placement as, say, azur lane
no retros, unique augments, faction buffs, etc
but i'd say context matters a bit more
same sorta deal as mob vs boss loadouts in AL
in nikke some characters which are great for wave content absolutely suck for bossing and vice versa
oh wait auto battle exists here lol
yarp
idk how competent it is tho
competent enough that i only really turn it off for content that's meant to be challenging
aight
oh how far do i need to push campaign before event stages become playable?
also why does teh game insist on putting your name in full caps when everything else is de-capped
that's gonna irk me forever
probably like chapter 3 or something? not very far
but i don't honestly remember lol
if you said the event was available from the start i would've believed you
well idk if it is but i assume not
but i'm only in ch 2 right now, which i don't expect to take super long
early chapters are quick yeah
oh wait it is playable now
event dialogue casually drops that people can become nikkes
ok
surely that's explained or otherwise alluded to early in the campaign?
that's not some major spoiler trust me lol
it's a central fact of the setting
i feel like some early chapter absolutely has to make that clear, but maybe c2 is too early
all nikkes are cyborgs, basically human brains in robot bodies
again, that's not meant to be some dramatic reveal later in the story, that's meant to be pretty clear early on
i didn't think it was some dramatic thing, but no, it hasn't come up in main story yet, that i can recall
okay so what am i supposed to be doing in th eevent
the first challenge stage destroyed me so i assume it's not that
you should be able to do the challenge stage if you use the temp participation nikkes
wonder if they're unlocked by campaign progression or something, idk
events are generally
- challenge once per day
- 5 stage clears per day
yeah i don't see any temp participation nikkes
so i'm guess i need to go further in campaign or something
they look like this in the squad creation screen
and in the top left, the pink flag should show you how many uses of them you have left in various types of content
Even in like chapter 10 I still hadn't gotten a mention to that
no shot
that was never unclear to me personally
in fact that's like a main part of why killing marian early on is meant to be an early emotional hook
since it's meant to be understood you're killing a human, not just some rando pretty robot
well, you're killing a being who also saved your ass, so there's a bit more to it
sure, but that's also a big part of why rapi/anis/etc. early on are so aloof about the MC
they expect to be treated like garbage robots
anyway i'm trying to screen my shit but my tool's acting up but suffice to say i don't have broken temp nikkes right now
the complete list of nikkes i have are signal, anis, rapi, neon, ether, belorta, and a gaggle of blues
it's fine i'll just push campaign for now and figure it out later
oh the cash shop has free packages that i'm not sure they ever directly tell you exist, you just have to figure that out yourself
yeah but they'll bother you with that red dot that means "something to do here" until you check
(by going into the cash shop and resisting the bait)
I mean I did get that part, I guess I just assumed that they were full cyborgs created by the three big companies- mind and all- and that that was why they were so discriminated against.
Guess that was my misunderstanding
i mean it's been a LONG time since i played through the first few chapters
so maybe it wasn't as clear as i thought
but something made me take that fact for granted from very early on in the game
i mean whether they're human, formerly human, or whatever else, not!!shikikan treats them as human anyway
so the distinction doesn't matter that much to me
the degree to which it matters varies by character, but some nikkes have storylines related to how they were as humans that ofc relate to how they are as nikkes
esp since it disables auto and i have no idea what i'm doing on manual right now
The later you come back to them, the easier they are
And it's an extra gem source if you're ever in a crisis~
EX stages lock your nikkes to a predetermined level so the only way to make them easier is to get better nikkes, or better gear, or level skills
incidentally they're almost all pretty easy, but yeah they're basically like a gem bank
not high priority to do until you need the gems or just have nothing better to do
that's fine then
i did notice they lock levels, but they also scale up
the issue is gear and skills
(hence why the challenge stage murdered me)
your particular issue is probably actually just the nikkes you have
you ain't exactly marching out the best of the best lol
also true, but on the other hand, if i'm gonna optimize for anni, i kinda have to make do
speaking of, anni will two free SSRs
oh also that red hood skin is one of the best free skins i've come upon in any gacha
one i know is decent
so if i ever pull her that'll be nice
You should eventually get good stuff just from the standard banner
it's the same quality as their $60 skins believe it or not lol
but it's a reward for her winning this year's popularity poll so they handed it out for free
ye i can tell
it's actually absurd
but....getting her probably ain't happening anytime soon
i hope you do for more than just using the skin
red hood's the best nikke in the game
and is suitably difficult to pull lol
that said, she was released during the 1st anni
2nd anni is giving us cinderella and grave as two new pilgrims
pretty good chance they are extremely powerful too
i'd expect it
fgo anni tends to drop extremely powerful units, so if nikke's in that vein, well yeah
thus far nikke annis have been
0.5 - dorothy (pilgrim, very good but kinda powercrept)
1 - red hood (best attacker in the game)
1.5 - crown (best support in the game)
2 - cinderella and grave, TBD on where they fall
okay is anything in the general shop worth grabbing with credits?
i assume any of the tier 1 equipment gets shelved relatively quickly
nope. buy the one thing that has a 100% discount and ignore the rest
okay seriously full capped name is gonna irk me forever
yeah it's kinda a bummer
like it's early gen pokemon all over again and it's annoying
oh also i assume bond levels can be raised manually
i can't imagine the tickets are actually worth the cost
they're not for two reasons
- you get a TON of them just from doing other shit
- there are "advise sessions" that let you raise affection once per day, so you can slowly get bond levels without them
but re (1), for instance here's what i have with only buying them once or twice to do a mission lol
i almost never use them, just level bond slowly
i actually only use them on collab units because those don't get advise sessions
oh another thing
whenever you unlock the friends list, fill it up with people, it will suggest some to add
you can send/receive social points that can be used for lower rate pulls on the social point banner
just free pulls, so why not
oh that kind of thing is standard in a lot of these kinds of games
nikke is actually the only one i've played where it translates to pulls though
snowbreak for instance has you send/receive stamina from other players
oh also this soundtrack hits about as hard as truck-kun hits an isekai protag
nikke's OST is fantastic
even the basic battle themes are enjoyable to jam to
i'm pretty sure they actually created a real studio just for their music because people loved it so much
but i also consider that pretty standard in a good gacha at this point
Level Nine i think the name is
ARKNIGHTS RIPOFF LMAO
i have several nikke songs on my spotify lol
okay so that makes level nine and monster siren for two known gacha music thingies
actually the last 8 songs i've added to my spotify have all been nikke songs lmao
might consider making an obligatory nikke playlist for my own
idk if it's unlocked yet for you but you can also make a playlist in-game
there's a jukebox functionality that lets you make playlists, change lobby screen music, etc
yep
anis is a bit abrasive in the early going isn't she
in fairness to her, i'm pretty sure she outright says she thinks she's being put on a suicide mission right before c2
(and she's not entirely off-base)
she does, yes
but she also lays the sarcasm toward not!shikikan pretty thick at points
why are you calling him not!skk, he is skk smh
wait does jp dub call him shikikan
i think there's more than one way to refer to a commander and might depend, but idk for sure
i know the nikke community waffles between calling him "cummander" and "shikikum" soooo
pretty sure he's skk in JP
again, in fairness to her, early MC is pretty fucking clueless lol
Nasu still cooking
might rival lb6 for best chapter if my questions get answered
the battles were freakin hard man
had to actually use command seals
these new AL text chat events are fucking hilarious
mogador is beyond simple horny jail, she needs to put in horny gulag
nah that's for horny russians
...embed, pleaseee
mogador gets the horny pillory
i would have said guillotine but i'm not about shipgirl murder
the nikke song that's actually stuck with the most is https://open.spotify.com/track/2lC1QrHaCz9NbBxtiLuUdf?si=36cf17fb7c434924
was from this year's summer event
slower and more relaxed but absolutely immaculate vibes
lots of songs that go hard that i love too though
tbh the red ash soundtrack is nothing but bangers
every bit of the game's soundtrack that's related to red hood absolutely slaps
ak 13-14 after ||THE WHITE WOLF OF VICTORIA! SHELLS AS SWIFT AS A WIND STORM, SHIELD AS STIFF AS A STEEL WALL!||
@rapid boughevent shop priority is the advanced vouchers first?
yeah, those are the vouchers used on rate-up banners so they're best
advanced vouchers > standard vouchers > skill books > core dust boxes > consoles (role/manufacturer ones) > credit/battle data boxes > spend excess currency on core dust
also this question comes up a lot, but those boxes with the 1H, 2H, etc. timestamps on them
that's not an expiration time, the boxes are permanent
but they can be redeemed for that much time's worth of your idle resource gain
so if you gain 10 core dust per hour idly, a 2H core dust box gives 20 core dust
this means the boxes scale with your outpost level, so it's best to save them until you need them to progress, since redeeming them later makes them more valuable
and core dust is the major bottleneck resource for a long time, so it has priority over credits/battle data
note this omits re:energy. don't bother buying it, it's a waste of currency since you get plenty through other means
normally if you're around for an event's start and clear all your stages each day with a squad that gives a 100% chance for extra event currency, you can full clear the event shop
obviously though you're arriving mid-event so gotta prioritize, if you can get all the vouchers and skill books before the event ends then that's a W
LMAO shoukaku has no chill
so much personality in these short text exchanges, love em
Kancolle Zuikaga vibes
No that makes sense tbh
He is just a cool dude who appreciates tea
@old galleon btw, like many other gacha, nikke has key redemption codes for free goodies, and a bunch were revealed during the anni stream recently. there's like 20 pulls worth of redemption codes available right now
i know you're not gonna bother rerolling, and fair play on that, but it's arguably easier than ever right now with all the free pulls you can get immediately at the start
ofc without rerolling you prolly wanna save these vouchers for when the anni starts, for free progress toward the 100 pull pity
already used the codes, yes
haven't rolled since i already said ii was saving

oh right how much should i be leveling my units in the early game?
leveling the units themselves? however much you need to progress
leveling skills or gear? don't bother until you have a better idea of what's good
in nikke you only need to level 5 characters at once
down the line you'll unlock the synchro device, which lets you synch unit levels to the lowest level of your top 5 (so if your top 5 is 100, 98, 96, 94, 92, then synchro device will synch nikkes inside to 92)
because it only accounts for your top 5, you only ever need to level 5 and just slap the rest into your synchro device
that said, it's best to level golds over purples/blues, since non-golds have a manual level cap of 160. so to go past that in your synchro device, you need to have 5 golds leveled
yeah right now i've just leveled a few units (including some purples) to like level 5 or 10, very cheap and not harmful to progress
but don't stress about it too much, resetting a nikke's level is very cheap (10 gems) and gives back all the materials you used so it's not a huge deal if/when you switch around who you're leveling
i think i read that synchro device is sometime in chapter 4
but yeah maybe i'll get there today, we'll see
have you unlocked the temp participation nikkes yet? lol
nice
but looks like you're limited on how much per day you can use them in story
(3 each)
yeah
if you spread them out that's 9 guaranteed campaign stages cleared per day (assuming you need to use them to clear; obviously if you can clear without them, do that)
can use them infinitely for events though
yeah 5 per day
you can buy more with gems i think, but still
unless you buy additional stage tokens from the shop with gems
which is worth it, eventually, but not right now for you
yeah the complete list of nikkes i have is "everyone i got from the tutorial roll"
lol nice
remember to add friends and cash in on social points
can get 30 per day, which is 3 pulls on the social banner
can you get golds through that banner?
still not awful
but it's free so why not
2% is still higher than fgo's ssr rate lol
the douse of cold water on nikke's relatively high SSR rate is that the entire game is realistically SSRs
purples/blues are meme units
eventually (i think after 50 pulls on standard banner) you unlock the wishlist functionality
gbf has 3% ssr rate on regular banners, 6% on galas, but ssrs are the only really viable characters
which lets you pick 5 nikkes each from the three main factions (elysion/missilis/tetra)
and that spreads your standard banner 4% SSR rate over those 15 nikkes + pilgrims
can you change the wishlist at any time?
yep, and for free
aight
whenever i do unlock it, is there any specific recommendation on what to take first?
indeed but 1st surprised me
long term you do all of them for all the units anyway, i assume, but short term for a newer player, which one should be prioritized?
i think the current distribution of wishlist priority nikkes looks like
elysion - d: killer wife
missilis - liter, tia, naga
tetra - blanc, noir, rouge, volume
past that it's a combination of "check a tier list" vs "prioritize nikkes you're close to MLB on"
MLB'ing 5 nikkes is important for progression, since you need to MLB an SSR to get them past 160, and you need 5 nikkes past 160 so your synchro device gets everyone else along for the ride
so eventually adjusting your wishlist to target nikkes you're close to MLB on is wise
at least until you get those 5, then you can go back to meta or waifu or whatever suits your fancy
honestly wishlist prio might go a bit wonky with the addition of 100 pull pity giving you guaranteed liter/naga/alice
kinda bonkers they're giving away liter guaranteed, she's basically the best general use support in the game
and naga/alice are both quite good too, but alice is the most investment heavy unit in the game so it takes a while for her to be usable
yes
and though they haven't said anything, i highly doubt it's retroactive, hence me encouraging you to save your pulls
in systems like this, they tend not to be retroactive
so i'm aware i should save
@summer hornet whenever you're around can you post your info? i'll go add you whenever game lets me in, assuming you hvae a slot
prolly had people (like me) remove you since you went inactive 
if you're not sending me social points daily, you're dead to me
friendship metagaming
Not at my tablet rn, but I'll add you later this afternoon
aight
shoutouts to regi + 2 other ppl i know who feed me like 10k credits in hsr
means i never remove friends
i assume for body label shop the only thing worth grabbing here is the ssr mold?
well sr/ssr mold
idek how to get the currency normally but i'm sitting on almost 20k of it
yes
you get it from pulling dupes beyond MLB, mostly for purples/rares
idk what you got 20k of it from since you haven't been pulling but yeah buy SSR molds with it
i assume it's some new player reward
also do unions particularly matter?
mold got me blanc, who looks like she pairs with others?
i assume there's a noir somewhere at least
(or mont for montblanc)
other mold was a total dud, ether dupe
okay so the other is noir
even without her i assume blanc is usable, for what i have right now
yeah, noir or rouge
unfortunately she is much worse if not paired with them
since they reduce her burst CD from 1min to 20sec
so in any fight that lasts longer than 1 burst cycle, she basically can't do anything
yeah they help. there's "union raid" content that rewards currency which can upgrade some character-boosting equips called wisdom cubes
wisdom cubes
lol now i'm forgetting if that's what they're called or if i'm having an AL brain moment
idk if they're called that in nikke but it's def al brain regardless
regardless, union raids give currency to upgrade them which is handy
does it really matter what kind of union i'm in?
i assume most of teh big or active ones don't actively push for newbies
and there's also a lot of people who get to this point of the game and just make their own so there's a lot of 1/20 in the list
anything that indicates it's casual friendly and prunes inactive members is a good bet
there's a few casual friendly i can see but it looks like most of them don't prune inactives as much
well i guess there's this one that's 30/32 gold i can potentially get in?
if you can find "cybex" that's my union (not literally mine, but casual + prunes inactives), i think it has some free space?
has entry level 50 so i'm not quite there yet
rip
i wouldn't rush it anyway
a union raid literally just finished so it should be another half a month til another starts
and that's the only reason to be in a union
aight
i'll just go join that other one for now and get it out of the way, and if it doesn't pan out at some point after i'm 50 i'll go join yours if there are still slots
yeah that's fine
yikes
saw another one last night named (potentially actually offensive term) ||chi99er|| which uhhhh
there's a real world definition for that one that's harmless, but i doubt that's what they meant
which is to say, nikke crew leaders can be pretty dumb
yeah not surprising, gooner gacha games aren't exactly gonna attract the best crowd lol
yeah but even so i did a double take on that one
idk if there's any sort of name filters in this game, but if there are, that's probably why they used 9s
i remember seeing some very questionable guild names in azur lane when i was looking to join one
that's not too surprising either, same reasons
HARMONY cubes
not wisdom cubes
so confirmed AL brain moment
also i didn't say this earlier so just to circle back
blanc is REALLY good when paired with noir or rouge
so that's a nice pull to get off a mold
so i just need one of the other paired nikke
yeah, though having a pair only matters if the fight lasts long enough to burst more than once
since it makes the difference between blanc being able to use her burst skill for every rotation, or only for 1 in every 3
for how early you are in the game, i'd bet you can still use blanc just fine lol
don't think stages last that long this early, probably
ye
and she's still an ssr i can use for that purpose if nothing else
but we'll see how anni treats me on that front
anni will also hand out two free SSRs
we don't know a lot about one of them since she'll be brand new
but the other is returning from the 1st anni and is pretty decent, especially for a completely free unit
lol it's one of the blue nikkes isn't it
yup
yeah idk why the early tactics academy lessons are gated by owning certain blue/purple nikkes
yeah very unfortunate
hopefully you can get it from social banner? that gives lots of blues lol
maybe
you should rush level the tactics academy as soon as new classes are available btw
it's a massive credit sink early but worth it
more idle resource gain + synchro slots
Synchro Slots are EXTREMELY helpful
how dare you make a ygo reference in my gacha server
synchro WHAT
the stare in that gif is unsettling 
the lick at the end is worse
another month end, another obscene amount of opsi grinding to do all at once
why do i do this to myself
@long tree start saving your catfood, we're about to get a collab event we haven't had a rerun for in 7 YEARS
https://x.com/PONOS_EN/status/1850719135308665312
the last time EN had this event was november 2017
yeah usually in the last weekend of the event
lmao
most of them are about as powercrept as you might expect
the super rare was designed around when the paris cat spam was the dominant strategy
a few of the ubers are like
fine
Ah got it so pull just for collection
I'm quite happy with the amount and coverage of my Ubers right now so idm pulling for collection (managed to get 14)
More or less
NINTENDO
I WILL NOT FORGET THIS GRUDGE UNTIL THE DAY I DIE
YOU COULD'VE SAVED ONE MORE DESERVING, ONE THAT WAS STOLEN FROM US

...what game?
Dragalia lost
Elaborate
Dragalia lost was an extremely good gacha made by Nintendo and cygames (of grand blue fantasy and princess connect fame)
It got shut down in 2022
was able to get another mold and it gave me some yandere
anyway that gives me three ssrs now
tho considering d's focus on pierce support they're not really synergetic
at least cdr is neat
Yknow, considering the kind of sentiments i hear from nikke players on social media all the time, im gonna have to call cap on that last one
tbf the in-game commander isn't a nikke player on social media
From a certain point of view, all the nikke players on social media are represented by the commander
Im assuming the mismatch between text and voiceover for marian here is intentional?
what'd she say in the voiceover?
Ive honestly already forgor, but i think it was "we are here", hence why i thought it to be intentional
Welp, ||so much for marian ig. I had been wondering why i had never seen her design before and now i know why||
Only question now is how many story arcs is it gonna take before ||she returns as an enemy with some kind of overhaul(that you can then probably pull as a limited ssr)||
yay i got genshin bp from like 6 months of google rewards
serpent spine is finally mine
i was about to put the "do you have any idea how little that narrows it down" image here but
d: killer wife??
if so, she is extremely good and worth using
one of the best burst 1s in the game actually
lmao this was 100% a self-aware dig at the people playing the game even though it's supposed to be true in-universe
i don't think it is, just some early game jank unfortunately
also guy playing nikke pog
Speaking of
I imagine theres an ssr guarantee on that forced 10 pull,
nevertheless
No clue how good any of these are tho
yes there is
none of them are very good, your account is bricked, it's joever /s
lmao wtf pulled 2 of the welfare unit before ganj-i-sawai (last gold i need from the new run of tempesta)
just remember to resist pulling more until the anni patch drops
Dwai, i am used to endless saving

nikke patch notes confirm 6 free vouchers to pull on the gacha costumes (i think this is good for 4 pulls)? normally you only get 1
unfortunately they're sneaky with this, you can only get the costume starting at the 5th pull i think
but this amount of free pulls effectively knocks $10 off the price to guarantee the gacha costume, which is normally $60
our kind gacha overlords are allowing us to buy these skins for a measly $50 instead
praise be
(it's gacha, so you can get the skins before spending the full amount, but it's vanishingly unlikely)
they justify the price by placing the costumes on a rewards track that also gives recruit vouchers and other goodies, so you're really paying for those goodies and the skin
but it's still highway robbery, easily the worst-priced cosmetics in any gacha i've played
alas i have too much disposable income and i'm a monkey so i will be buying the scarlet costume anyway because it's gorgeous
3.3 Archives - NEW YEAR, NEW SWORD
The **fully voiced **story event NEW YEAR, NEW SWORD is now available in Archives.
Participate in OLD TALES to obtain Memory Films for unlocking story events in Archives.
Opening time: From the end of October 31, 2024 maintenance
How to enter: Lobby → Outpost → Command Center → Recollection → Archives
YOOOOOOOOOOO (bold emphasis mine)
this event was not voiced during its first run, absolute W to give it a voiceover
One day we will have justice for Euden
yes
this kind of thing is what i meant when i said i tended to have overwhelmingly good gacha luck at the start of games
tbf the woman's epithet is "killer wife" so i figured it would have been easy to figure out
she's actually basically a government-sanctioned assassin of criminals and that alt is her working undercover
yea i figured that out quickly
i just found the imagery funny
anyway now my 3 ssrs are signal, blanc, and yanDere
still holding until anni for pulls
the last two are very good at least
and i'm still annoyed i can't progress tactics academy at all bc i'm missing the blue i need for the first mission
😭
if it's any consolation, upgrading it will be walled by credits soon after
it's a huge credit sink early
yeah but that at least feels like it's surmountable with gameplay
for "not having a unit" i have to wait until i pull
which sounds like a weird problem out of context but that's what this anni has done : ^)
in any other scenario where you weren't saving your early pulls it wouldn't be an issue but... yeah, anni's turning things on their head
mhm
but i'll still save
oh also i've pushed campaign to chapter 6
which feels probably a little slow comparatively but i don't think it's bad progress
seems fine to me, especially given you're not pulling lol
with the temp participation nikkes i think you can maintain consistent (if slow, later on) progress until around chapter 20 or 21
that's usually around the time you'll hit the 160 wall and your characters will stop getting stronger for a while
honestly one of my main gripes with nikke is that the campaign is hard combat power gated so you'll reach points where you literally cannot progress for days or up to weeks at a time
there's other stuff to do ofc, just settles into the daily grind
you'd think that a game that actually prides itself on not just being gooner bait and actually having engaging story/characters would wanna make that story accessible to everyone
but nope, i've been playing for about 8 months now and i'm still not able to fully catch up to the story (i'm on chapter 29 of 32 iirc)
and they're adding two NEW chapters with this anni, tfw that's content tons of people won't even be able to access
i'm still riding on the highs of chapters 22-24 though
god that was some good shit, easily the best main story arc in nikke so far
almost certainly, especially given the "undercover assassin wife" shtick lol
buffed in a few areas, but... yknow, nikke
buffed massively relative to her base appearance too funnily enough
which ones, the "capture point" or the "don't let enemies walk too far to the right"
the latter
idk about low level ones, but later on those start getting enemies that autobattle won't target but give you like -10 if they cross the boundary
gotta kill them manually or hope AoE gets em
how to keep your humanity
||find yourself a good noose||
yikes
yeah the stories in some of the lost relics are pretty dire
didn't sign up for my gooner shooter to actually play its post-apocalyptic dystopia setting straight
good lord rapi just cannot catch a break
it almost seems malicious how the story at every turn paints her as an incompetent
til the game actually gave me that one rapi skin
yeah it's free for everyone now despite being a prereg bonus originally (i think)
it was a preregistration bonus, yes
i don't think the game ever let me know i had it in any way tho
i chanced upon it while looking for something unrelated in nikkepedia
i never personally got the impression that rapi was portrayed as incompetent, in fact i think she's meant to be viewed as the elite of the party (and later chapters emphasize this)
her issue is that she's tasked with protecting the unprotectable lol
SKK gliding from one near death experience to the next
i'm not saying she's incompetent, i'm saying that's how i think the story portrays her in the early parts
i never got that, if anything i think MC is meant to be viewed as the incompetent one
i'm not absolving mc, he's actually braindead in this part of the game
he gets much better later but yeah
turns out blank amnesiac faceless MC is not a good commander initially lol
arknights would never
anyway, it's pretty basic but i do like the prereg skin
i like the color scheme, anyway
the skin itself is otherwise identical to her default
yeah i prefer the prereg skin too
her default getup does have a subtle purpose that's somewhat lost if you use the skin though
i doubt it matters much though since i assume her skin doesn't appear in story cutscenes
anyway it's been what, 2 years since the game launched?
i'm wondering if they're just gonna do ssr rapi through story instead of gacha
wouldn't be the first game to do something like that for the playable mc
there's no way they don't do it through gacha just for money purposes alone lol
it'll probably be during a future anni
people thought it was gonna be this anni but that was cope, we knew it was gonna be cinderella well in advance
well yeah, gacha would get them more money, but i still ponder the possibility
it'd be based of them to do it that way but they haven't ever introduced a guaranteed SSR through story
the only two guaranteed units in the game are rapi and anis
and ether i guess from mail
sure, but the playable mc would be an acceptable precedent to start with
i'd be worried primarily because free units are usually not very good
so that might condemn SSR rapi to mediocrity
usually, maybe, but one can cope that they actually put care into rapi
there are obv pros and cons to that tho
at the end of the day i still think it's more likely she goes to gacha, whenever that ends up being
but you have other games doing stuff like mash rarity upgrade post-camelot, arknights with its amiya alts, etc
it'd be really funny if her SSR is just a seasonal limited like anis
hella anticlimactic
tbh knowing the industry this is probably the most likely outcome
but that's how both anis and neon got their SSR alts
neon's unfortunately sucks for gameplay
summer anis is pretty good tho
who'da thunk the girl who can't shut up about "firepower" doesn't have much to show for it?
lacking in both firepower and waterpower smh my head
Do i just soend these here? Seems like the best thung available but idk
is that the body medal shop?
but yeah most people expect SSR rapi to be story-related but released as a gacha banner alongside a major event (likely an anni)
bc if so, yeah, those are apparently the only things worth
yes only spend body labels on those molds
spending them on anything else is a waste
i got my not!yor through a mold so it's got at least some pretty good possibilities
can get any standard banner non-pilgrim from em
Gotcha
ofc it can also whiff but on balance you should get more golds than not, if listed rates are to be believed
i actually have about 500 of those saved that i'll be doing a 10-mold-pull with when anni patch drops
Its very funny that nikkes can freely attack and torture humans but the line is drawn at guns

