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#Gacha Chat
old galleon
it begins
i had forgotten eldridge has like 100 skins and an oath skin on top of that
jeez
okay this is cool
i actually really like the occasional naval history posts like this
i wouldn't say i'm specifically a naval or military history buff, but history in general is one of my interests
old galleon
oh i just realized i still haven't done halford pr exp yet
so i can kill 2 birds working on eldridge
slow raft
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rapid bough
i like how the other top 5s (oaths, skins) are all URs, and this "top used" is also 4/5 URs, but uni is the odd one out because that's the power of being the best healer in the game
also seeing unzen in every list makes me sad i'm gonna have to wait so long to use her... like 1.5 years easy before she reruns 😭
honest pawn
https://x.com/quixoclair/status/1822124143862759753
I'm still a hongsang shipper but fausang is good too
old galleon
also seeing unzen in every list makes me sad i'm gonna have to wait so long to u...
yeah you missed a real one with unzen
some don't like her, but fuck em
her design is nice, she has a great skin with great interactables, and she's strong in gameplay
old galleon
i like how the other top 5s (oaths, skins) are all URs, and this "top used" is a...
realistically, uni''s only the best healer int he game bc we haven't gotten a ur who can do the job better
incidentally, she's lasted a bit over 2 years in this position
will they ever make a ur healer? who the fuck knows
rapid bough
her design is nice, she has a great skin with great interactables, and she's str...
one of the people in my guild makes his unzen available for support in guild operations and i use her, and i'm pretty sure even without "proper" gear her damage ends up on par or near it to my backline ships
which is pretty wild since when i use my vanguard ships they're not even close to the damage alsace/NJ/etc do
old galleon
i'd die laughing if they finally released yamato and they made her a dedicated healer and people malded over it
rapid bough
and yeah unzen's skin looks pretty peak
though UR swimsuit skins in general are ez money for manjuu
old galleon
one of the people in my guild makes his unzen available for support in guild ope...
this is a gear issue i think, backline should be destroying guild boss
rapid bough
that said, despite my degeneracy, i did not buy the mogador skin. just the alsace skin
something about mogador's just felt... too much, actually lol
old galleon
you are the reason mogador didn't show up in top 5 skins kek
rapid bough
like that wasn't ordinary everyday horny, that was advanced horny
rapid bough
alsace actually has some cute interactions in her skin like playing with the beach ball
and imo her design in the skin is actually really pretty on top of being obviously hot
i don't like the mask over base alsace's face
mogador is just straight up horny
something else that factored into my decision though is just that, in general, i feel like main fleet ship skins are worth more than vanguard ship skins
because whenever you salvo/airstrike, you get the full art flash (and if you use a skin, it's full art of that)
but vanguard ships don't have any analogue to that
so you objectively see its art less in-game
and no one's getting skins for chibis
old galleon
counterpoint for your degenerate monkey brain: you can eat chocolate off of unzen's foot
old galleon
would also be funny if they do to yamato what they did to musashi
release her, give her a default skin (not even dynamic)
rapid bough
ultimately i'm splitting hairs, clearly in the end the alsace skin hit just the right balance of horny + compelling new ship design relative to base art, and mogador didn't do that for me
old galleon
tbf you're probably using alsace more than mogador in the long run anyway
rapid bough
release her, give her a default skin (not even dynamic)
with my sample size of one UR event, they appear to focus on giving new URs l2d skins now
rapid bough
tbf you're probably using alsace more than mogador in the long run anyway
this is also true and helped my decision
old galleon
with my sample size of one UR event, they appear to focus on giving new URs l2d ...
biszwei's is only dynamic
so it's not surefire
@rapid boughdo you happen to know when the breguet was added to the core data shop? it was definitely there as of last month but i don't remember when specifically it was first introduced there
rapid bough
i believe it was when the rondo at rainbow's end rerun happened
so about 2 months ago
old galleon
that seems like a random time to add it, but okay
at least that way i don't have to worry as much about crafting wyverns
already have 2 of them anyway
rapid bough
didn't they add NJ gun to the gear lab at a random time recently too? or maybe that was during alsace event
old galleon
yeah nj gun was pretty recent too
i dont' remember if it was during french event or not
but i'm not complaining since i get to switch out these barracudas
i've got 2 wyverns and 2 breguets
i'd have more but i didn't take the joffre raid seriously enough to craft any from that
rapid bough
i'm constantly short on core data since i buy 2 shells minimum every month, and last month i think i also grabbed the cog arrays
also probably gonna need to buy some homing beacons for setting up my opsi CV fleet now that i have avp
old galleon
i'd only buy beacons if you know you need the timing adjustment
rapid bough
still a long way away from avp fs5 so not worrying about it too much
rapid bough
yeah i think i only have 3 each atm
i think 6 each is the recommended number? might be overkill but it ensures you have enough for running 2 triple BB fleets in opsi
old galleon
you can do that if you plan to run 2 bb fleets in op si, yeah
rapid bough
that's my ultimate goal and the general recommendation i see
old galleon
i just logged off but i think i have somewhere in that ballpark for shells
rapid bough
mob fleet, 1 CV fleet, 2 BB fleets
i'm a long way out from having enough decent BBs to staff 2 fleets though
hell once i have vanguard MLB'd that will be my one fleet
old galleon
yeah it'll take time
versed pawn
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versed pawn
Like 4 more weeks so I can see neo new nanami
Twitter
Ah wait that dude From the discord is actually gets commissions from Azure lane 
old galleon
yo hol up this 6 dragons summon is actually pretty fuckin based
main aura: 120% all ele atk, 20k boost to all allies max hp
sub aura: 20% boost to all omega weapon skills
you get it from collections in the summer event screen
that sub aura is really juicy
old galleon
https://twitter.com/ArtsJeze/status/1804084344128164121
if you mean this artist, yeah
they have a bunch of azur lane art
versed pawn
Well didn't knew him but he posts his art into the wuwa leak server from time to time
versed pawn
old galleon
Famitsu: I was told one of the Summer Servants revealed in advance for this year’s event will be Ciel. Has that been decided for a long time?
Takeuchi: We have a meeting where we decide which characters will be playable, and for the star of the show, the Anniversary Servant, sometimes we settle on one immediately, and sometimes it takes forever for us to decide. This year was one of those where we flip-flopped a lot, and someone in the meeting suggested Ciel. But Nasu and I spoke in sync, saying no to Ciel.
Famitsu: Can you tell us why not Ciel?
Takeuchi: Simple. She doesn’t make sense as FGO’s anniversary Servant. Arcueid’s surprise factor only works once, and even then, she only fit the bill after we forced her into the special role of Archetype:Earth. Despite that, the discussion continued toward how to release Ciel regardless, and our solution to that was making her a summer character from the Servantverse.
Famitsu: I didn’t think we’d ever get a Servantverse Ciel.
Takeuchi: For that reason, I made the base of her design a regular Ciel swimsuit, and advanced from there by adding all the sci-fi elements. Since overdoing it carries a risk of making Ciel fans feel like that’s not her, it took some fine-tuning to let her feel in place in FGO while also keeping her recognizable.
tbf there's a vocal contingent of the fanbase that already thinks it's not her just by virtue of her being from the servantverse
so idk
alrighty, i'm gonna go actually do a proper ending for project identity
aiming for ending 8
versed pawn
My god I dig this design so much why can't you come to global faster 
runic ether
its a joke since his fanbase is largely women
and ppl have sent mihoyo death threats bc of how much he's liked by women
childe experiences a similar dilema but hes more popular with fujoshis
if theres anything to discourage tho is that wanderer recently had a rerun so it'll be a bit before his next one
likely another 3 months give or take
on one hand, enough to hit guarantee + weapon
on the otherhand, its 3 months
honest pawn
and as cute as he is, my desire can only take me so far
runic ether
yea
if u dont love genshin's gameplay (and grind tbh)
its not gonna stick
i think the gameplay is p great overall but it is still an open world sandbox
hoyo does expect u to actually explore it
rapid bough
aiming for ending 8
which one's that
i ended up going for the "stellar actress" ending, i think it's called
and i think that was 99% motivated by the fact most people said it was the easiest
some of the paths are way harder than others lol
the stat gains are not balanced
honest pawn
I'll actually try Genshin out to see if the gameplay bothers me
runic ether
I'll actually try Genshin out to see if the gameplay bothers me
if you liked botw, you'll likely enjoy genshin's gameplay
again tho it comes with the flaws of the open world sandbox and the benefits
long tree
Genshins a little more restrictive about what you can do in the open world to begin with compared to botw, namely the lack of the tools and the terrain interaction being missing apart from elemental barrels, but other than that it plays about the same
Later on though the locations have fun mechanics that are a lot of fun
rapid bough
lol
can you imagine if that always fired in the direction she was facing instead of locking on a target
it'd be so much worse
runic ether
yeah
summer hornet
https://x.com/click_burgundy/status/1822415657725812994
Hungry Clicker is a Tohsaka fan, you love to see it
runic ether
big daddy should be a boar thiren so we will 100% get more furry furries
"I'm Caesar herself, the leader of Sons of Calydon." Caesar King
"Take a seat anywhere you like. Make yourself at home."
"As you've come all the way to the Outer Ring, consider yourself a guest of the Sons of Calydon!"
"Uhh... Big Daddy, what does she mean by 'the exchange of gifts'?"
she may be stupid
tracked down his leak
old galleon
took me like 5 hours but my rerun of project identity is done
i remember why i never bothered touching it again after the first time
tb might be cute, but the game mode is horribly unoptimized
honest pawn
...I feel sick
Koyanskaya of Dark didn't get a buff...
we only have one more set of reveals, and the two characters are both casters, who I don't give a shit about
these buffs were kinda disappointing imo
slow raft
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old galleon
oh right i didn't post about it in here yet
merlin and nursery rhyme are today's strengthenings
idle grove
merlin getting buffed I thought I'd never see the day
copper steppe
merlin invul has 10 np battery and crit boost
summer hornet
The man atop the tower has gotten even stronger... He's going to destroy us all
sour tendon
merlin buff is huge
honest pawn
MERLIN BUFF???
old galleon
merlin invul has 10 np battery and crit boost
this plus it got its cooldown reduced by 1 turn
so now it's 6 instead of 7
honest pawn
of all the servants to buff
old galleon
merlin system isn't real, it won't hurt you
merlin system: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGwwSa0sxLE
requires your attacker to have 50% self charge on 6 turn cooldown or less
which should be most of them in the era of append 5
70+30
self 50+koyan 50
koyan 50+self 50
since you're stuck using the self batteries on turn 2 instead of turn 1, i don't think it's compatible with the 7 turn cooldown ones like s bb
slow raft
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digital marlin
That's an A tier edit
long tree
Ah fuck I’m cooked zzz got me
runic ether
lucy keeps picking up names every time we see her again
started as lucy -> luciana de montefio -> luciana auxesis theodoro de montefio
we're gonna see another 2 added next
old galleon
augusta luciana auxesis theodoro de montefio smith
copper steppe
john smith
long tree
Raphael ambrosius costeau
astral drift
long tree
Finally getting around to doing the BB interlude
It’s funny as fuck
BB: “lets spin the wheel, oooh looks like you get -20% Debuff resist, poor senpai is going to get stu-“
Arjuna alter:
runic ether
i got both twins in a single strike with 11
versed pawn
augusta luciana auxesis theodoro de montefio smith
would be nice if there would be a ongoing meme where her name becomes longer everytime she mentioned
runic ether
shes not beating the fischl allegations
versed pawn
14 seconds to slow for shiyu 6
smh
few more skill levels in soldier 11 should do the trick i guess
runic ether
i hear 6 is quite tough atm
versed pawn
switched the team arround
tried with anomaly first on the dog takes to much time
dog has like combined hp of the entire 2nd wave
tho i think i should be fine just leveling up their skills to get more dmg
runic ether
just wait for jane
sour tendon
boy oh boy the price of freedom is steep
ibuki is so good but my np1 summer ibuki is heavily outclassed by my max investment summer kiara
old galleon
s kiara should be fine
i guess if you can't really justify ibuki in general farming bc of kiara, you can at least justify her in content where rulers exist to cover the gap
although off the top of my head, i'm not sure what relevant content has many rulers to deal with, aside from random 90++ nodes and that one aqua marie wave
Wave 2: 21k Ruler, 304k Ruler Scáthach-Skadi, 21k Ruler, 97k Ruler, 22k Ruler, 104k Ruler, 23k Ruler, 111k, Ruler, 23k Ruler (3 at a time, 3 turn limit)
this thing
versed pawn
never again
sour tendon
i guess if you can't really justify ibuki in general farming bc of kiara, you ca...
i mean she works for the most part so i still use her to save bond on Kiara (and the jack-o pose np is excellent)
she just doesnt hit as hard
she loops all berserker/assassin waves better too but then I have a high investment scheherazade for that too
rapid bough
why are most ZZZ hollow corruptions like... reasonable tradeoffs or completely irrelevant, and then there's the "dodge CD is longer" corruption which is the most annoying fucking thing in existence
absolutely wack balancing
runic ether
its not meant to be directly punishing bc one of the hollows cares about you getting corrupted
but, it is a gameover condition
so they didnt want it to be ballbusting if you got corrupted which further pushed you to lose in more than just being too corrupted
rapid bough
no that's fine, the corruption system as a whole doesn't bother me
but the existence of the "dodge CD is longer" corruption which is ballbusting confuses me
it's the odd one out as being genuinely annoying in all situations
runic ether
oh lol yeah that one feels like it missed a buff
its like the only one thats just only downside
rapid bough
i was doing a run with a bunch of dodge resonia (especially the one that puts you in bullet time or w/e it's called for 4 sec after a perfect dodge which imo is one of the best resonia in the game lol)
and got hit with the dodge CD corruption right before final boss and nearly lost my marbles
still cleared but it was 10x more painful than it had to be
runic ether
i think that one should buff your damage for dodge counters but increase the cd
rapid bough
imo no buff could reasonably balance it out because having a longer dodge CD is just that annoying and some enemies seem balanced around being able to repeat dodge several times in quick succession
though i wouldn't argue with a buff lol
runic ether
we'll see
apparently in 1.1 they plan to rebalance some things about hollow zero
i think the nineveh pact of punishment will get a bit of a rebalance cus iirc ben just doesn't work vs one of them but idt thats intended
cus then seth and in 1.2, caesar will be unviable there
rapid bough
idk shit about current "endgame" but is ben useful? feels kinda like the best teams i see are attack/stun/support
runic ether
ben is good
like actually really good
it depends on playstyle
but defenders are an in-between of stunner and support
ben gives good buffs and has solid stun ability
but his buffs arent as good as a dedicated support and his stun isnt as good as a dedicated stunner
seth is more or less the same
the other benefit they have is that they actually can do a ton of damage
so its actually possible, given time and content
that defenders would be better to run over attackers actually
it can depend on the content
or similarly
could be the defender replaces a support
or a stunner
rapid bough
i see
guess it's kinda hard to evaluate their potential since ben is literally the only defender in the game lol
runic ether
its hard to gauge exactly cus we only have ben playable
and seth is coming in the 2nd half of 1.1
and then both ben and seth are getting a buff from caesar releasing
since she's a physical defender
so they will tailor content in 1.2 to fit her
runic ether
"You don't seem too fired up. Need a little spark~?"
Burnice White
"Not bad, right? I made this Nitro-Fuel with a brand new flavor using a special ingredient that I got from the city."
"What? You're going back to the truck for a nap? You don't want to be too hyped up after finishing your drink, right?"
"Speaking of which... You've got a vehicle! I've concocted some of my own super-efficient fuel. You should give it a try!"
versed pawn
my god games really wants me to spend so badly to get the next 3 units starting with jane
long tree
"You don't seem too fired up. Need a little spark~?"
Burnice White
"Not bad, ri...
Grace's wife probably
slow raft
Kinda sucks that im missing a vital member of the emiya family
When do they start giving us old welfares again?
old galleon
evocation 1 should be around late march to early april next year
old galleon
which key member of the emiya family do you mean btw?
there's irisviel but you could also be referring to chloe
old galleon
irisviel is in evocatoin 4
so september next year
(chloe's also in evocation 4 so you don't lose any extra time)
slow raft
Marking it in my calendar as "family reunion"
Oh right miyu also exists doesnt she 
Ah well
old galleon
miyu ain't welfare so you'll have to roll her at some point
anyway, evocation gives us blessed artwork so i'm happy for that alone
slow raft
miyu ain't welfare so you'll have to roll her at some point
Whenever theres a back to school campaign and i dont have any plans for the near future i might try my luck
old galleon
i just choose to ignore that sieg's also in here for some fucking reason
slow raft
I did like oath under snow
rapid bough
wtf hoyo is absolutely cooking with these next few character releases
why they gotta make me want all of them, i don't have the pulls for this god dammit
digital marlin
i just choose to ignore that sieg's also in here for some fucking reason
Maybe due to being a homunculus too?
glossy latch
Are all ZZZ banner units girls so far?
slow raft
the 5 stars are
idle grove
was wolf dude not a banner character or was he just a base 5*
slow raft
hes standard yea
runic ether
Are all ZZZ banner units girls so far?
yeah
we know vlad is most definitely goimg to be a 5 star as will big daddy based on leaks but there is a disproportionate male to female ratio atm
iirc its similar to early genshin
there was just venti, zhongli, childe, and xiao
and it was all girls for quite a good while
digital marlin
Girls just sell better
sour tendon
the lb6 boss rush is fun
idle grove
wait until you get to lb7
slow raft
my body is ready
sour tendon
i know nothing of lb7 aside from some of the servants and the location
and i already can tell its gonna be the best
long tree
I just know about the ||dinosaurs||
runic ether
theres hope that big daddy is actually big as fuck
glossy latch
She's using underslung flamethrowers?
runic ether
yeah
fire anomaly
basically zzz's version of dot
except theres no kafka, you just need to build enough anomaly to trigger the effect and if combined with another effect you get disorder triggering the remaining anomaly stacks
tldr:
anomaly buildup happens when dealing attribute damage
enough build up and they get a status effect trigger
stacking anomaly proficiency like how in genshin you build elemental mastery to get more damage
runic ether
tbf, we dont have a dedicated anomaly support
only supports in the game are strange basically
technically rina helps
and nicole is busted but she works for other teams better
versed pawn
rina is currently arkward to play with someone like piper
runic ether
yea
versed pawn
maybe if u have m1 because thats like 11 seconds where the small ones stay on field
runic ether
grace piper jane may be the goal but even then
i'd replace piper and get rina but still there
burnice maybe does enough?
versed pawn
yeah i most of the time only use rina ults for the energy shes gives her team so u can keep reapplying anomalys via skills
runic ether
we'll see with jane and burnice tho
the premier anom team may be grace/jane + caesar + burnice
versed pawn
i see jane deal like 2x times the dmg of piper on assault
since she allready has a lot more attack and that crit proc for assault
runic ether
yeah jane is super good
piper has more i-frames iirc
but jane will hit dps thresholds
versed pawn
4 more butchers and i have her core passive boss mats
versed pawn
i did
runic ether
ah that makes sense 
versed pawn
my brother hits 50 tommorow
runic ether
i hit 50 in the next few days grinding out qingyi mats
versed pawn
also janes core passive makes no sense its jumps from E 25% to F 40% crit chance for her assault
it legit goes 21/22/23/24/25/40
runic ether
might be adjusted come live game
versed pawn
with the 40% and 0.16 ratio u need only like 400 proficency to have 100% guarantee crit
sour tendon
slow raft
old galleon
it's not too hard to do 100 interludes in 6 months
just space them out a bit so you don't have to rush
copper steppe
thats a lot of interlewd
summer hornet
I’ve got like 20 interludes myself lol
It’s not like they’re bad, but my drive for Interludes compared to Rank-Ups, basic farming, or story quests is just always lower
old galleon
every 10 of each gives you 10 sq tho
so it's not a bad idea to knock them out over time
slow raft
ive got 4 not counting seiba
long tree
do friend summons for haberiot dupes
Get 3 saber lily's
GRAHH LEAVE ME ALONE
old galleon
truly the windows xperience
old galleon
congrats
long tree
Koyan is close too and her bond CE is decently useful
sour tendon
damn it i want junao so bad
arjuna so cool
i have a plump morgan so he's useless for my gameplay loop but damn it hes so sick
long tree
Bro fgo is killing me wdym raikou is rate up now
slow raft
Nah
Thursday/monday will be kit teader first
And then next week wednesday will be release
honest pawn
https://tenor.com/view/erlking-heathcliff-garn47-limbus-company-project-moon-gif-3792232321590785269
slow raft
YOU HAVE GIVEN UP YOUR SMILES
AND THE HOPE INSDIE YOUR EYES HAS BEEN STOLEN
long tree
Ay my partner now has a decent team line up (s Ibuki, waver, friend support castoria, and then a Saber to use if they need more survivability)
slow raft
Suprisingly, my leadt favourite milli song in limbus
Even tho its from my favourite canto so far
copper steppe
Ay my partner now has a decent team line up (s Ibuki, waver, friend support cast...
thats pretty decent indeed
long tree
I’m gonna ask them to save until castoria gets a rerun
copper steppe
i think she has a rerun in december or so
slow raft
With their own castoria they can prolly clear like
90% of the game just off of that
I was gonna say that maybe theres some invuln/ dodge spammers thatll get them in trouble but then i rembered that s ibuki has an inbuilt way to deal with that
sour tendon
having castoria + a blue looper means you've won the game
a blue looper + waver is also very good
idle grove
can't wait until extra record comes out and tamamo gets a buff that makes her castoria level
sour tendon
honestly shes still very good but its 2024 the super supports need party batteries
that morph skill is also still completely outdated
they could easily tack on a 30% party charge + 30% np gain roid
morph is essentially a non skill
idle grove
yep
glossy latch
Ok 85% over 115% Yunli
Finally got some decent pieces
Only the sphere could use an upgrade really
slow raft
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versed pawn
astral drift
old galleon
||rip jalter||
astral drift
i wish rereading parts of the story wasnt such a chore
OC3 is in northern italy or something
old galleon
||can't wait for the cute vampire lady to be the scum of the earth||
astral drift
||if evil why hot||
old galleon
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s passionlip meme is finally dead
and the other looks like chiyome
that or we live in the worst timeline and they bait with ce art
old galleon
and i would be one of the salty bois
that passionlip art is great
(in large part bc she's actually wearing suitable clothes)
please don't bait us nasu
long tree
I like how it's more conservative than her normal outfit
Makes sense for her character
old galleon
would actually make for a tasteful welfare tbh
since they don't do different outfits to start with (asdie from skins i guess)
runic ether
zzz leaked va direction for caesar and burnice
actually super love that billy anby and nicole are all relevant to other factions and are likely major players in the world of new eridu
anby with obol squad, nicole with the void hunters, and billy with calydon
epic
oh theres even more
sour tendon
guh
prettiest final ascension art in the game imo
scheherazade has just about every positive modifier for me
mortal iron
I uh... huh
idle grove
isn't the summer event meant to be starting today
idle grove
summer bb too is amazing
slow raft
Also summer tlaloc mooncancer and summer mhxx alter
And this summer has something to do with oc3
summer hornet
Seems like it is Ordeal Call 3, straight up
They'll be adding it to main interlude later this year
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summer hornet
Just gotta get through the main story for it, that's all
Okay so a point has been raised to me
BB ribbon is usually pink, right?
But BB Dubai has a yellow ribbon
copper steppe
https://youtu.be/L479UjyXmXY?si=6gnijTU6Wu9ZUSbO
was that fucking ||hakuno||
summer hornet
slow raft
Interesting kit on ciel
If im reading atlas correct she gets class advantage vs sabers as a passive?
astral drift
Looks like I finished OC2 just in time LOL
slow raft
archer moon cancer lol
"The design is sick and all but you do understand we needed a moom cancer, right?"
glossy latch
... am I missing something about floor 11 part 1 of this Spiral Abyss?
How are you supposed to 3* this
astral drift
bb dubai better have a tanned version
long tree
But BB Dubai has a yellow ribbon
Its probably her, given they don't usually give two a unit two of the same seasonals unless there's been a significant difference between forms
Which means this summer event is gonna get crazy
idle grove
bb dubai better have a tanned version
great minds think alike
long tree
Also it'd be wild if they gave her a summer form before making her default summonable
idle grove
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summer hornet
Also it'd be wild if they gave her a summer form before making her default summo...
Lady Avalon lol
long tree
True
slow raft
bart having mash as his main servant of course
summer hornet
If anyone was gonna find a way to clear with exclusively hair bang characters, it'd be him
...I wonder if he Grails himself
slow raft
Np is buster
honest pawn
WE'VE WON
slow raft
She does a weird arts buster hybrid thing for skillset tho
honest pawn
long tree
She just reads like she does everything lmao
honest pawn
lemme read her kit and I'll be back
long tree
Heals every turn, 50% battery, gains np charge on buster cards, reduces enemy charge and removes guts on arts cards, 100% crit damaged bonus at max hp, heals, buff removal resist, debuff resist, heals when hit, buffs Def 100% for 3 hits, 6 turn cooldowns on all skills, can act like a solo servant for a turn (replaces all cards with hers), sure hit and Def ignore on a 600% np1 np that also inflicts death at 100% on an enemy and restores her np guage 20%... And then her passives regen even more, give bonus damage Vs alter ego and saber, as well as increase crit damage by a further 12% and debuff resist by 20%
She doesn't die and hits like a truck
Her crit damage is gonna be insane
honest pawn
single-target
that third ascension
gomen, ciel-senpai...
I guess I'll be skipping your banner after all...
summer hornet
Who do you use for single target bosses?
summer hornet
Understandable; have a nice day
honest pawn
really it's the third ascension that truly killed the dream for me
arc's better girl anyways
idle grove
Twitter
runic ether
new enemies in 1.2 for zzz
https://imgur.com/a/UPw9gcG
i hope this is hoyo gauging interest in true furries for playables
old galleon
I guess I'll be skipping your banner after all...
you know you don't have to use her third ascension, right?
i mean i like it, but you can always use the other two
and they even get alts (the swimsuit one shows more skin; the teacher one removes the glasses) depending on your preferences
honest pawn
this game sucks
idle grove
second ciel art is best
glossy latch
ZZZ is fully lobby-based right?
runic ether
lobby based?
runic ether
... am I missing something about floor 11 part 1 of this Spiral Abyss?
also this
slow raft
more like lobby cringe!
runic ether
its yelan propaganda
runic ether
there is an open world but not for exploring
there are rally commissions that are somewhat open-ended
but its missions
slow raft
also saying queue up in this context is really funny im ngl
runic ether
but yes this is how i beat floor 11
of this abyss cycle
2x hydro
i went 3x in this case but
could have been just double
if i was in your spot rn, i'd do navia, furina, xingqiu, healer
astral drift
second ciel art is best
baste
runic ether
its very yelan propaganda as i said
cus yelan is able to yoink them in her thin line and then drag them towards her
glossy latch
also saying queue up in this context is really funny im ngl
Mostly using MMO terminology
runic ether
are you joining for rat yelan
glossy latch
Who?
runic ether
jane
i was hesitant at first but then i realized she literally was just a yelan expy
only she's a rat girl
glossy latch
Whats her gimmick?
runic ether
she applies anomaly quickly and can crit with anomaly
basically like if kafka or black swan could crit
runic ether
she's 2nd half
so if u want her u can guarantee her
this game's best teams are overall quite centered on the 4 stars available atm
ellen + sokaku
11 + lucy
zhu yuan + nicole
grace + nicole
billy + nicole
neko + nicole
basically its nicole all the way down
40% def shred is pretty silly
but the new end game doesnt care about clearing fast its about surviving so stunners and defenders like ben anby and seth are important
glossy latch
Noted
WuWa does have an upcoming free character Im curious about too soo
Ill have to see
runic ether
also wow i didnt notice but
now i did
sokaku's va
was swapped
its fucking paimon
i recognice corina's voice when she says food
both sokaku and lucy had va swaps
such a weird case with the va studio behind zzz
i like sokaku's new voice
but im not sure on lucy
she has a good new voice but her new va doesnt quite nail the sass she gave in one of her character select screen voices
u can pat the fucking bangboo
glossy latch
... ZZZ is 100GB????
slow raft
digital marlin
keep it up and you will be next victim of Takechi
astral drift
copper steppe
||its you||
old galleon
nametag
zoom in
ka
so they're kazu baiting and this is actually violet : ^)
(this probably is actually kazuradrop, which still leaves the question of wtf "bb dubai" is)
glossy latch
Thats still a lot
astral drift
the hotel we're staying at is Marion Hotel lol
old galleon
oh no it's lb6 all over again : ^)
long tree
My initial reaction:
Oh those are nice particle effects for the corruptio- AYO MISSILES??
glossy latch
Also whats ZZZs story like?
runic ether
wait theres two new end game modes?
runic ether
Also whats ZZZs story like?
its a bit more simple compared to hsr and genshin atm
but theres a groundwork of deeper lore
basically: humanity's at the brink of destruction due to the emergence of the hollows
giant spaces that warp people and technology and are functional mazes on the inside
analog tech is usually fine within the hollows
and some ppl have natural born resistance to the adverse effects of them
you play as belle and wise. a duo of hollow investigators who work outside the law known as proxies. the duo is already legendary by the time you start and are searching for... something
we dont know what they are searching for yet but they have specific interest in a particular hollow
versed pawn
The new shiyu defense isn't too hard u just need to make sure nobody dies no time limit
Free 10 pulls
versed pawn
The enemies on the last node with the brick hits like a truck tho
old galleon
it's neat but not without flaws
if you have a 3 enemy wave and the biggest enemy is in the far left position, you can't np it with this setup
so you have to hope your third card+extra attack can kill it
astral drift
long tree
The thighs are bigger than her waist tf
idle grove
I don't need to know about her waste
long tree
English much difficult
runic ether
okay the new shiyu defense is sweet
runic ether
something to be said about how zzz has some of the best gamefeel
when you get a sick parry or dodge the game lets u feel like ur the goat
idle grove
Twitter
honest pawn
first of all, berserker nodes are a no-go
long tree
Why?
copper steppe
have less np refund me thinks
slow raft
^
Caster have the most refund followed by
Rider i think?
And then it goes all the way down til berserkers
You can usually arts loop zerks still tho, as long as its 3 enemies still
idle grove
yeah arts looping less than 3 seems to suck always
slow raft
Some servants can do it
Especially if you put plugsuit knto the equation
I just muramasa everything and that usualy works
long tree
Bruh I need 22 eggs for castoria I'm gonna cryyy
idle grove
best investment in the game
long tree
I'm gonna be grinding for year's eggs hate me
summer hornet
They debuted with Lb4, so that's probably right
It's the annoying node with the buff clearing snake dragon, though
If you mess up your 3-turn it will hurt
idle grove
yep!
it's what I hated about farming eggs
and then at some point I think I just pure prism'd a lot
summer hornet
LMAO
idle grove
no it wasnt eggs I prismd because that was before they released
it must have been another annoying mat
summer hornet
I think I used Arash and Caster Umu for that node, just to avoid plugsuit
old galleon
first of all, berserker nodes are a no-go
plenty of loopers can loop zerks
depending on overkill you may need swap oberon and/or ocean flier over bg
but zerks aren't unloopable
honest pawn
is there a reason not to run oberon in castoria comps
would you have another mystic code you'd rather run
old galleon
bc you're running 2x castoria and any other mystic code
2004 for np gain in certain contexts is noteworthy
s ibuki can also run atlas now in the era of append 5 iirc
summer hornet
Why does 2004 always get raised for NP gain above the other MCs, btw?
old galleon
go read its third skill
summer hornet
I'm pretty sure Babylonia Mystic Code has an NP gain buff too
old galleon
yeah and it probably has other bells and whistles which make the np gain component worse
summer hornet
go read its third skill
....any chance you're willing to just post it here
I'm on mobile data - I can, but it'll be mildly vexing
old galleon
give me a sec
wiki's being a bitch
at level 10 s3 raises the target's np gain by 50% for 1 turn
it also has an np strength buff on s1
old galleon
tbf babylon s3 isn't awful either
40% np gain for 1 turn with a 10% charge
but it has a worse offensive buff
more often than not you probably prefer the extra numbers on the np gain component with the ability to have the higher np damage buff
as opposed to what babylon provides
but ymmv
but anyway, plenty of arts loopers can loop zerks
it's zerks and assassins mainly that you have to watch for
zerks have .8x np gain per hit, assassins have .9x
meanwhile casters i think are 1.2x
i don't immediately remember the numbers on the other classes
long tree
belle says rizz in the new zzz patch
THE BRAINROT FOLLOWS ME
rigid pilot
is there a reason not to run oberon in castoria comps
It's not optimal for all teams
Sometimes, you have more than enough refund and some Mystic Codes have a strong utility
slow raft
Sometimes you wanna save time or bond farm for a different servant
rigid pilot
Also true
rigid pilot
Buster farming is busted yes but it is time consuming more than the better Arts loopers and the slot dedicated to Oberon is often something you can spare for a third bond support
summer hornet
I feel hesitant to arts loop now because my Castoria is bond 10
old galleon
i just gave her a bond grail
bc i know i'll be using arts (and buster) for a long time to come
really between the two it'll depend on my mood
honest pawn
I guess I'm blessed to have NP2 Arc + Koyanskaya
old galleon
but valk looping is incredibly fun for me
rigid pilot
I've bond grailed her, Oberon, Koyan, Mélusine, and S. Kama I believe
I'm Quick farming right now
Taking a bit of a break
Cus I need S. Skadi to be bond 10 soon
summer hornet
I shouldn't be surprised they're all bond 10 already lol
old galleon
i've only used 3 bond grails so far
- arash
- merlin
- castoria
4 and 5 will be oberon and koyan whenever that happens
also arash is bond 11 now lol
(i actually do use arash a lot despite everything)
summer hornet
I've bond grailed everyone who reached bond 10 (all seven of them lol), but the only ones who are still seeing active use are Emiya, Castoria, and Ishtar
summer hornet
Cus I need S. Skadi to be bond 10 soon
Her bond CE isn't particularly great, is it?
I thought it was like exclusively buster crits or something
old galleon
iirc s skadi has a neat one
long tree
My bond grails are forfeit by default unfortunately due to Arc
rigid pilot
old galleon
yeah partywide 30% buster crit buff
rigid pilot
I have used a bit more than I remember lol
old galleon
that's pretty good
sour tendon
buster farming is nice but the amount of buster farmers that are actually worth using is deceptively quite limited
sour tendon
more worth than arts looping
old galleon
plus you have to consider that most people won't have all the options
sour tendon
i would say the most ideal buster looper is caster cu
old galleon
like yeah, if you want an st buster looper kintoki is incredible, but a lot of people won't have him
summer hornet
old galleon
and caster cu is in a similar boat; np1 caster cu is awful
sour tendon
any buster looper that requires starting charge CE is imo fake
summer hornet
Few months old but the only one whose bond level has changed is Koyan, I think
old galleon
that's most buster loopers tho
sour tendon
hence what im saying
old galleon
it works out fine bc most event ce's are 50% charge anyway
sour tendon
true but like with a 50% starting charge ce, arts can still loop incomplete wave setups
the only usage for buster to me is those incomplete nodes that cant be refund looped properly
old galleon
that one definitely depends on your looper of choice, but yeah
again, i use whichever one suits my mood at the time
sour tendon
of course im also in the uniquely privileged position of having every super support
old galleon
sometimes i want to use s valk to kill my enemies in a hail of smg fire and a big-ass nukue
sour tendon
as well as plenty of loopers of each color
old galleon
sometimes i want to send my enemies to the underworld
both are valid
i don't really quick loop too much, and it'll be even less so now since i don't have my own s skadi
sour tendon
i got sskadi only because all scathachs are queens
old galleon
tbf a comp of skadi/support s skadi/oberon might work for whatever quick looper i use
but that feels wonky and i'd probably rather just use buster at that point
sour tendon
also granny glasses ascension
astral drift
buster is (mostly) universal so i dont have to look up wave comps before going in
lazymaxxing
sour tendon
if you have one of the really good arts loopers it usually doesnt matter
especially ibuki
old galleon
i personally like any of the loopers with at least one good anti-trait on them nowadays
where good is like anti-earth or something
anti-man is nice but if it's on a buster looper, koyan already gives that
old galleon
jp's probably had at least a few 90++ with foreigners by now too
sour tendon
most 90++ require a slightly more specialized team comp
astral drift
some events ive gotten so lazy i just farmed 90+ til the end
sour tendon
i feel my acc is just too progressed to settle for 90+
old galleon
but yeah, i'll probably stick with 90++ where at all possible
i might dip down into 90+ if the specific node is too annoying
sour tendon
like why even have these high investment nukers if i dont clear the powercreep content
old galleon
but i'll probably give 90++ a real effort everywhere i can
astral drift
i'll put in the effort for NA but not JP lol
sour tendon
this first 90++ was actually easier than 90+ for my acc
old galleon
yeah the 90+ was clearly geared for s valk
and then by the time you got her all set for farming, you probably cleared out a good chunk of the shop already
sour tendon
another thing about the 1/1/1 90++ structures is they still get 6 slot arts schlooped by vlad
old galleon
vlad being the baseline is fun since s castoria exists now too
but i'm not sure how many 1/1/1 structures exist beyond this last one
usually it's more like the standard 90+ comps, with like 2/1/3 or 3/2/1 or some other variant thereof
sour tendon
apparently the next one is 2 turnable
sour tendon
oh yeah forgot we talked about it here
i wonder what all team comps will work aside from iyo
old galleon
s ibuki is probably fine
sour tendon
eh mine is only np1
honest pawn
nvm I gotta pull for Ciel
old galleon
it's still really tough for me bc i resolved to np5 ciel when she dropped but s eresh is the anni servant and probably won't rerun for a while
in that regard, eresh should probably be higher priority for me
but ciel's kit is more unique
astral drift
time to save up so you can do both
old galleon
i mean i'm saving regardless
but i doubt i can np5 both on f2p quartz in just 2 years
and that would be the goal
sour tendon
i wish they would retcon AE kiara into beast
old galleon
draco a3 is at least somewhat mature woman, i guess?
astral drift
but i doubt i can np5 both on f2p quartz in just 2 years
never say never
old galleon
i think i know what you're referring to
and yeah, that wouldn't fly in fgo lol
then again azur lane dropped alsace a few months back and still isn't r18 on the shop, so who the fuck knows anymore
sour tendon
my cope is one day they might add a mechanic that allows a servant to change classes
and servants like tiamat, kiara and kama would be able to reclass to beast
long tree
Iirc didn't they say Draco is the only summonable pan human history servant?
For beast I mean
old galleon
i think so
sour tendon
yeah they did
long tree
It do be type moon
sour tendon
they love their asterisks
old galleon
you wouldn't be summoning more beasts
you'd be classing them into beasts
gotta think like a yugioh card writer : ^)
long tree
I feel like kama beast is impossible now thanks to the development she's gotten
long tree
Kiara could easily be a beast again
sour tendon
shes still unredeemed scum
long tree
Because she's always down for degeneracy
sour tendon
honestly them making eresh a beast kinda undermined the impact the class has imo
long tree
Tiamat would likely need a catalyst of some kind to be a beast again, she's pretty chill as a servant
long tree
honestly them making eresh a beast kinda undermined the impact the class has imo
Yeah I still don't really understand why she's a beast
Other than gameplay
old galleon
i imagine it's a lore thing we'd get at some point in the summer and/or oc3 story
that or it's in her profile somewhere
sour tendon
its servantverse lore so its inherently disappointing and pseudo canonical at best
old galleon
also summer only needing fuyuki but the real shit needing oc prologue is funny to me
sad for new players tho, since i think that gates the welfare
long tree
What is the welfare btw
old galleon
no fucking clue
some were speculating hakuno(n)
but there's nothing concrete that i'm aware of
long tree
0 way they give her out for free
summer hornet
I mean, the previous track record of Type-Moon protagonists in FGO...
sour tendon
i feel like beast is gonna be the next foreigner or mooncancer
where they originally kept the class sacred and exclusive
old galleon
yeah idk what they're thinking with mooncancer either
sour tendon
but after the 2nd or 3rd they just pump them
summer hornet
That's what happened with every extra class lol
long tree
Ah true I forgot shiki assassin was event
old galleon
like they drip fed the non-bb ones over the years but now we're getting at least 2 in thsi event alone
long tree
Kiaras made sense she was fucking with BB
old galleon
shiki is just from a different time
part 1 was extremely conservative with extra classes
if shiki were released today, her regular, human form would probably have a good chance of still being an assassin, but they might justify some other shit
and i see no shot of void shiki being a saber
summer hornet
I think the Shiki comment was about protagonists as welfares
But I agree about Void Shiki being extra class if she was released today
long tree
Legit all I know about shiki is they're completely cracked lore wise in terms of strength
Especially void shiki
summer hornet
KnK is a lot of fun, if you ever take the jump
long tree
What is that, an anime?
old galleon
anime movies based on light novels, yes
summer hornet
Ufotable movie series
long tree
All I'm getting when I Google it is a series called beyond the boundary
old galleon
it translates to something like that, yes
it's called kara no kyoukai
you'll probably have an easier time finding it wherever you watch anime that way
long tree
I'll have a look see if they're on crunchy or prime or something
old galleon
as you'd expect from nasu, there is a lot of dialogue in these movies, so if you're not into that, be warned
but there are some pretty nuts fight scenes too
summer hornet
Ufotable makes the action slap, but there's usually like one big scene per movie
long tree
I remember seeing the herc Vs saber alter fight
old galleon
the knk movies far pre-date heaven's feel
old galleon
i think they're like mid-late 2000s or so?
summer hornet
By like 10 years
long tree
This shit blew my mind
summer hornet
2007-ish
summer hornet
This shit blew my mind
It's still crazy that they went from Demon Slayer to HF to Demon Slayer and back and forth again
sour tendon
https://tenor.com/view/saber-berserker-gif-22179452
heavens feel part 2 is the best anime movie of all time
old galleon
the only other thing i'll say is, i'm surprised they released fujino as a 4*
sour tendon
and this is the best anime fight scene ever
summer hornet
Every new release just pushed their animation power further, till Entertainment District finale
old galleon
i was absolutely convinced they'd release her as a 5* way back when
summer hornet
Nowadays, they would
old galleon
absolutely
old galleon
heavens feel part 2 is the best anime movie of all time
i'm glad i got to watch it (and the first one) in theaters
covid really fucked the third one over
summer hornet
and this is the best anime fight scene ever
They literally topped it in the third movie lol
It's still absolutely insane
old galleon
the third movie is great but it was absolutely made worse for me bc i had to watch it on my computer instead of a theater screen
summer hornet
But Salter vs Shirou+Rider is a solid step up
long tree
and this is the best anime fight scene ever
Looks a lot different than Goku Vs kid buu (I am heavily biased)
old galleon
hail satan hail satan hail satan
also i think gohan v cell tops goku v kid buu but i think it's fine too
long tree
I don't really see Gohan Vs cell as a fight tbh
old galleon
(if only they didn't assassinate gohan's character in buu arc)
long tree
It's like 5 minutes long
It's just Gohan getting dog walked, then him dogwalking cell and then the beam clash
I appreciate the emotion behind it though
long tree
To turn this more towards gacha talk, I like when dokkan adds attacks in from different moments in the series during an animation
It's hype
old galleon
i still haven't tried dokkan
summer hornet
Dokkan animations have come a LONG way
old galleon
i imagine it's not that bad if y'all are still on it
long tree
Its fun for a while but it does get samey
summer hornet
Like originally I think they might've been worse than FGO
long tree
I usually just hop in for big events now
summer hornet
But now they're literal movies
old galleon
fgo still has some caster ball animations so that's a low bar to clear
summer hornet
Teq God Goku and Vegeta still sticks with me (since I was running a movie heroes team when I played lol)
long tree
Reminder that these are all sprite animations
long tree
You can get the individual limbs poses and shots in the files
summer hornet
If your phone is really old or the Internet is bad, it'll slow down just enough to where you can tell how disjointed it really is
But it's impressive all the same
long tree
It's a game held together by 9 year old glue and dreams but it somehow has more qol than fgo
It's crazy
old galleon
fgo does occasionally get qol tbf
ofc it's hit or miss as to whether it actually fixes anything or pisses people off
summer hornet
Ye
long tree
TBF to fgo, the dokkan wallet is deep
old galleon
well yeah, being a property of dragonball z will do that
summer hornet
You still can't see the full list of effects and statuses that units have in FGO
old galleon
fgo ain't exactly hurting for money but it ain't dragonball
long tree
Iirc it and legends make up 45% of bandais revenue
summer hornet
TBF to fgo, the dokkan wallet is *deep*
FGO regularly brawls for the top three anytime it has a new banner, even after all this time- that's the thing
long tree
To be fair is that Jp or worldwide
summer hornet
JP; Clairvoyance means that we don't spend quite as much over here lol
long tree
Cause dokkan hits top 1 everywhere regularly
summer hornet
Anniversaries and New Years still hit the big time, cause GSSR, but that's about it
summer hornet
I didn't think people actually liked super 17
long tree
Me either
old galleon
like at least with the shenrons i can probably think of some who at least like nova or whatever
summer hornet
I don't like him lol, and I love MVP 17
old galleon
but super 17?
sour tendon
They literally topped it in the third movie lol
the fights in part 3 are good but this is fate peak imo
it shows servant mechanics so perfectly
and pays off the entire saber being the strongest plotline thats been building for decades
you can juxtapose it with the gil/herc fight where nerds online (and even gil himself) say that had illya just not been so close by gil could have easily lost
summer hornet
I do think hf2 is a better movie all around
sour tendon
and then you see saber just completely body bag him
summer hornet
Since they kinda slipped up with actually explaining the finale to HF3 (which is PRETTY IMPORTANT!!), as well as the final fight's mechanics
sour tendon
hf2 reminds me of The Dark Knight in that if you scrubbed the lore from it and it was just an action thriller it would still be a masterpiece
long tree
On the topic of dokkan while it's at least slightly recent, I like how they can take a piece of art like this, and make an entire unit out of the what if scenario (what if Gohan and Goku fought cell together)
summer hornet
hf2 reminds me of The Dark Knight in that if you scrubbed the lore from it and i...
...other than the ending, cause that's a pretty explicit cliffhanger
But if you look at it as a horror movie bad end, I can see it
sour tendon
oh man the ending is so fucking good
but i do see what you mean
i was waiting for sakura to waste that fucking clown for so many years
long tree
I keep forgetting how light they make the servants