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Man I hate the double drop event right now I wanna use all my energy on character xp and weapon XP 
Almost done with having my 2 teams and lvl 60 and 60 weapon
90++ drops eggs
---With the 9th year, I've also gotten the impression that welfare Servants have had their performance significantly increased.
Kanou: We decide on performance like that after discussions with TYPE-MOON, and recently we've made it so that the distributed Servants are able to show their power in a wider variety of situations. At first, we were just focusing on increasing performance to the extent that distributed Servants would better be able to survive in the 7th chapter. But, personally, I think the best reward from playing an event is the welfare Servants, so we thought it would be better for the players if the Servants they got from events would be able to retain a more active role, and as a result their performance has to be generally higher than in the past.
---So you'll stick to that same level in the future as well?
Kanou: Yeah. We have no intention of lowering the bar again. That said, FGO is balanced around a sense of usability while trying to avoid abrupt power-creep, so they'll still have to abide by that.
lol
lmao even
---Can you give us some hints as to what kind of preparations you're doing for the final chapter?
Kanou: The big new mechanics are something that I've discussed with Nasu, and that I feel will be the culmination of everything we've done so far. I think it will really tie everything together, everything we've done and why we've done it.
---It's been said many times that it's a good idea to raise a lot of different Servants, and I assume that still holds true?
Kanou: I think you'll definitely want them at bond 10. I would also say that it'll be advisable to raise the skill levels of lots of Servants, too.
---I see. So will it be something like being forced to use many different Servants?
Kanou: We'll just have to see, won't we? (laughs) I think this will be something that can only be done in "Fate". I'm aware that some people aren't raising a lot of Servants because of the cost of materials to upgrade them, but it would really please me if you would put your hearts into this.
Aka "we know it's tough, but suck it up"?
pretty much, yeah
they could just give us a real bond daily like they had at the beginning, but nope
anyway, reminder to go collect profits 1 minute before maintenance starts
Famitsu: Hearing that makes me want LB7's King Camazotz sent to me immediately. Does he have any chance of being summonable?
Nasu: He interacted enough that he can be called if there's any reason for it. The problem is that I already used Camazotz to his full potential in LB7, so I'd rather let him keep resting.
considering nasu lies as naturally as he breathes, camazotz ny servant 2025
What time does maintenance start again?
when maitenance ends
midnight edt, so in about 3 hours 20 mins from now
||Famitsu: Right after summer, the first Olga Marie Quest appeared. Tells us what got them implemented.
Nasu: I wanted an event where you could throw in all the Servants you raised, a challenging gimmick battle with 30 Servants. That was the initial concept. There was no need to make that a mandatory battle, but without content like this, there's no point to leveling Servants. Since Olga Marie would go a long time without screentime after LB7, we decided to implement that both as a reminder that she'll still be relevant and as a vehicle to do something significant with gameplay.
Famitsu: Is that some kind of foreshadowing for the aforementioned new gameplay to come in the 10th year?
Nasu: Correct. The new gameplay elements will probably unlock as soon as you beat all Olga Maries… be prepared.||
probably safest to spoiler it even though it's probably safe
regardless nasu's certainly on one
lmao he stole from gradius to implement the badges in aqua marie
oh and also flare marie was theoretically recruitable, so fuck you nasu
got my profits with like 10 seconds to spare lmao
Cyborg daughter or nanomachines son
@long tree should i use coins for lr 17 and frieza
Nah world wide celebration is soon and you’re gonna want to save coins for if you miss one of those
NVM i just pulled it
thank you 30 stone summons
okay so im just that goated with the sauce in this anni
i assume theres no reason not to summon saber if you dont have her?
herc and emiya would be the only contenders but im not regi so an np2 emiy is more than enough for me
and hercules is an inferior version of van gogh anyways so i dont think i need him
when are we getting that FSN servant anyways
please do not be cross with me Herr Vater
I'd say just go for Saber, even if you have her already
which I don't think you do?
yeah i dont
yooooo, she said the line
I've been playing this game on and off for 6 years and I've been spooked two (2) times
by Waver and the WANG
but I only just now got Saber
ive been playing this game for 2 years and ive been spooked two (2) times
by jeanne and jeanne
in the same banner
actually thats wrong i also got europa, napoleon, drake and ozy through a spooks
jeanne and jeanne (funny)
accidentally spent 150 boxes on yi sang instead of faust
Ideal.
More like suicideal
I will happily trade you 300 yi sang coin today for a paus tomorrow
also I think I need to spread the good word of snaust
snaust
oh hey its the picture from the rr3 sheet
You did what?

and also I just... didn't need him
kill yourself shirou emiya
how many times do we have to repeat UBW, old man
I aint hiding anything
np2 artoria less go
if I had Saber already I'd have gone for the Emiya copies, but I hadn't pulled her 
regend or medea CE from this pick ticket are probably gonna be the rarest CE in the game
because why wouldnt you get this one
i wish the servant and CE selections were separate so i could take medu CE
Bro i havent even started railway, relax
Someone save me from egg farming
Brother, thats what the event was for
Couldn't 90++ consistently
Ah, no hokusaber?
by the by
abby and billy
Oh i didnt post it today
Greedy abigail enjoyers taking the well deserved buff from van gogh(who really need it) 😔
Nope
That and my supports aren't raised to 10/10/10 yet, I'm lazy
Foreigner buster loop with an unupgraded np
And shes single target?
Idk man
yeah idk
the billy buff is crazy and I love it
but I feel like his S1 deserved the tune-up more
half ap embers + every ember node unlock is up
Embers are not the problem my guy
it is for me lol
i have enough grails for a few servants but no embers left after anniversary
he died as he lived: drowned in his ideals
he's still drowning in them today

Ez winnnnnns
You want to take a friend agl UI instead of a teq UI btw
Cause the teq domains clash
Sometimes it can be beneficial for two teq UIs if you know it’s gonna be long
i used both this thing which is funny
Ye that’s fine then
im gonna be 100% real
i dont get how ui goku agl is better than ssbe vegeta
so many events disable dodge or reduces it
and ssbe vegeta never fails on me
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og eresh can bg loop now lol
needs all of 2x oberon/koyan, level 1 mana loading, and the new cooldown append
ok after a few more days with zhu yuan i'm feeling this combat now mr krabs
i still accidentally go dash happy from time to time but that's only when i panic and miss a dodge/assist and all my mechanics go out the window
also the nikke update that released today is a grim reminder of how bad its cosmetic pricing is
$60 to guarantee a gacha skin that, pound for pound, is probably worse than a $10 azur lane L2D skin
sucks too because it's a character and aesthetic i really like but i'm sitting here like "will i ever forgive myself if i pay $60 for this"
granted it's gacha, so there's a chance you get it in less than $60, but that's ofc how they catch you gambling even when the rates are awful
nikke does skin gacha?
aye
well
sorta
every month or two they'll release a skin that is only obtainable through gacha
gfl had something like that too
they also do guaranteed skins as part of season passes and whatnot
those are $20, but they're part of a season pass where you get pulls and whatnot too
i'm not a huge fan of skin gacha mechanics
the gacha skins are $60 to guarantee, and while you do also get pulls/materials along the way, they're not $40 better than the guaranteed skins lol
but i'm spoiled by azur lane/arknights
can't speak to arknights but azur lane's skins and pricing are definitely top of the line
azur lane's weakness is just the limited gameplay impact that skins have
arknights skins are fairly easy to access for f2p since the currency you buy them with is obtainable in somewhat decent amounts without having to buy it
they're mostly for putting on your idle screen
no one's buying skins for the in-game chibis lol
you can't get all of them, or even that many of them without buying, but f2p can certainly get some
that's one area where nikke has it right, since all the L2D assets are used in gameplay too
i'm not a fan of skins having actual gameplay effects
just make them new units at that point
well nikke has alts like plenty of gacha games
so they do sometimes make new units out of what could be skins lol
but the new units will function very differently most of the time
versus a skin which doesn't alter character functionality, just their gameplay appearance
have u fought thanatos ganks yet?
don't even get me started on fucking thanatos
oh you mean since the in-battle models are also l2d you get to see that in fights too
i thought you had meant the skins had different effects on gameplay
whoever designed that one commission that ends with fighting thanatos + dullahan at the same time needs to be fired... out of a cannon into the sun
nah nikke definitely doesn't do that lol
i don't know of a game that does tbh
some games do it kinda unintentionally i guess, i know some league of legends skins are banned in competitive play because their particle effects are harder to see
i'm pretty sure they exist, i just can't think of any either
lmao
god i haven't kept up with league in like what? over a decade?
would have no idea what any of that looks like at this point
i haven't played it in several years at this point, but i still idly keep up with it
its peak
one of the best o&s style fights because of how much it asks you to actually get good
nineveh is also insanely good
haven't unlocked nineveh yet
idek when you get to it
i just hit level 34 IK level lol
which is enough to start ch3
oh you're like 11 ik levels
rip
before nineveh
ah you havent fought the twins yet either. that'll actually be a fun one

i am playing on babby mode so i've never actually lost any commission
just been frustrated here and there by the mechanics of some fights
im having a blast tho cus these bosses are significantly more challenging than genshin
thanatos becomes way more reasonable when you learn thanatos solo
once u learn both fights well, it becomes super smooth
i don't have a problem with thanatos
dullahan is an annoying piece of shit though
teleporting away seemingly every time i start an EX special
bastard
dullahan is the big bulky guy. thanatos is the one that teleports
oh you havent unlocked thanatos' fake out moveset then i dont think
his WHAT
i think that one is only on higher difficulties too
thanatos has a fakeout attack set
where instead of firing his bow, he teleports
i think he can go into the teleport off any of his other attacks as a fakeout
idk if i have or haven't unlocked it but i can say in that thanatos + dullahan commission he was doing a tele + triple slash attack that took years off my life
by the end i got the timing on dodges/assists down but that shit had easily the smallest most unforgiving counter window of any attack i've dealt with yet
you're playing zhu yuan/anby/nicole?
ya
do you know nicole's secret attack?
depends on what that describes
the 360 degree spin off her special
where you extend the rotation of it which can let her misfire it and shoot it at a distance
or hold while she sits on her suitcase to charge
with energy, that shit has full i-frames
its insanely good vs thanatos
i know the hold i-frames and have used it several times
idk what you mean by the spin/misfire stuff t ho
ah
okay
so nicole has a secret attack ig
you may need to map your special to shift or something else
you click her special and hold -> immediately after, do wdsaw on keyboard
if controller, you move the joystick full 360 degrees
and she'll spin around and sit on her suitcase
that has full i-frames while charging
if you mess up and let go too early she'll slip off and fire early (still i-frame) and shoot it farther
so there's merit to both
but either way, its a super good move vs thanatos
i dont think the game explains it
they tell you about anby's special being able to do be used between her 3rd and 4th normal string which has a unique follow up
what's the merit of doing that over just holding her special normally, i thought normal hold special had i-frames too
and a few others
it extends the i-frames a lot more
and it looks like the secret special takes longer to fire
ah
well i guess that tracks
longer to fire = more i-frames
which is useful for thanatos when he starts doing his teleport fakeouts
if he fakes out, you let go and swap
if he doesnt, you hold and then fire once he attacks
that's big brain
anby vs thanatos is also very fun because of anby's short timings
as long as you arent using her specific combos without energy
use dullahan's attacks and position him to attack you from behind to get dodge counters on anby to hit thanatos
would never think of this shit on my own lol
i mostly just button mash and time dodge/assists to the best of my ability and that's enough
i occasionally have sparks of inspiration like figuring out i can queue up zhu yuan's 3 suppression shot combo and switch to nicole to use her special while that's going off, which triggers a quick assist on zhu right after to switch back
but that's about it
figuring that one out is prolly gonna be my peak in this game
ah so you havent been buffering dodge counters into dodge swaps?
yea that thing u do with zhu yuan can be done with a lot of characters if you load a long animation to get it + dodge counter
i do know that but i feel like most of the animations i interact with in a typical zhu/anby/nicole team aren't that long so it doesn't really occur to me to do that
you'd be surprised on how much u can get away with
it's almost disorienting to switch that much, esp if i for instance counter with anby and want to stay as anby for stun lol
vs dead end butcher you can set up attacks into parry in its 2nd phase to hit him between his 6 punch string
while parrying all 6
4 more days and I should have all the units lvl 60 with weapon lvl 60 
im just grinding discs at this point lol
why was this a real notification I got
Discs comes afterwards
My s11 is like 61/141
So 89/151 with buffs up
I got my pulls for rat ready
And my anomalies characters are somewhat build I guess
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The Azur Lane 6th Anniversary Live Stream kicks off on August 10th at 12:00 (UTC-7)! Tune in to catch exciting news about upcoming in-game content, new merch...
starts on saturday at 3pm edt
i wouldn't expect too much in the way of surprises here, and ofc no ur since that'll be next month
Arc players finding out they can max level and get the cooldown append with np1
moriarty buff is an np upgrade and the np damage up is now 3 turns
charlotte gets the rng on her skill removed and a star bomb
what's the new servant coins news?
speaking of next UR, do you know when musashi is supposed to rerun
like NJ, she's another ship i saw and immediately knew i wanted
You can get 420 coins by getting to bond 15 now
from bond 1?
so getting from 10-15 gives you 120 coins
do they just give you an additional 240 on top of that
Yeah
I no longer need to roll additional Emiya copies, thank goodness
so the total coins you got from maxing out their bond went from 180 to 420
that's pretty sick
it seems in some way theyre also reimbursing folks who actually did buy into the system as presented during anni
if you rolled np8 eresh (or over rolled for any servant over the course of the week) the coins will be exchangeable for a different servants coins(?)
im working with a machine translation tho so grain of salt
it also looks like USOs are being refunded too which is insane
“I’m sorry I did predatory practices on you, please don’t tell mom, look I’ll even let you exchange your Vbucks for different coloured Vbucks.”
how has this happened to me like 5 times in the last two days after a month+ of never seeing this 
Ok got some better pieces for Yunli
Missing just the headgear now basically
Then I can start upgrading the weakest pieces
oruta's new animations are so cool...
they issued the biggest apology in the history of the game and backed it up more than they really had to
im gonna take it positively
leave the twitter tier rage for when they don't make it right
I was kidding christ, I’m decently happy about the update cause it lets my upgrade arc easier
.
im just saying its not the first time ive seen somebody saying that stuff and other people have meant it
I get what they’re coming from, servant coins were implemented as a way to get people to pull for more than one copy who otherwise wouldn’t, and further increasing the power of that system without increasing methods of obtaining the coins is a negative for the majority players as a whole. An alterations to the systems as a whole in response to the backlash is nice, but the fact they tried to pass it by should also be noted.
idk how i feel about about "them trying to pass it by"
how much theyve rolled it back makes me believe it might have honestly been a pants on head moment
rather than them just trying to stick it to the players
Mildly annoying that the ascension resources are time-gated
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So true number 3
no idea, but she'd be the next one in line since vanguard rerun just happened
they yearn for alcides
yeah musashi still holds up well to this day, obvious floof aside
you can also use her to help mitigate backrow damage in chapters 14 and 15, so it's not just her damage
THE REGEND OF FRANCE WILL ONE DAY RETURN
jeanne when 9 years later some upstart samurai from japan is still france's savior instead of her
jalter was originally a ruler in orleans but became an avenger because she absorbed jeanne's internalized rage at kojirou stealing her glory
and that's how edgy little sisters are born
What about the littlest edgy sister
edge? thats christmas spirit
that's what happens when you let her try out suspicious substances
she'll call you tonakai-san while giving everyone presents
only to realize just about every other santa does her job better
Man…
(Also if second is the worst and third is the one with the ‘hairy chest’ (read: sheep)…)
on the upside, it taught me a valuable life lesson
(why his name is tony tony chopper : ^)) or something about christmas spirit or whatever
i'm mostly memeing, jalter lily is passable
Fair lol
off the top of my head, she can 2x oberon loop, although she needs 100% gauge for it
Aka, mlb kscope
she's in evocation so regular works with mana loading
Oh, nice
but if you have any of the better aoe lancers, just use them instead
easier to build around
Speaking of, evocation should be reaching us soon right
if by "soon" you mean "8 or so months", yes
So literally post lb7
ye
and the first one was before they came up with the obvious idea of giving them strengthenings, so both shuten and quetz got screwed

while i think the 4* caster strengthening will be nursery rhyme, i wouldn't complain if shuten got it
tbh
bc her card buffs really need to be 3 turns instead
they should just catch us up to JP right now
that ain't happening
Nnnnope
all the banners too
That’s a sure fire way to incite another round of world ending rage
this game is already a jenga tower of fucked up code
you think dropping all of 2 years worth of content wouldn't destroy the game?
How long does it take to get a 5* in ZZZ?
same as the other hoyo games
Idr how long it took in HSR
its soft pity at 65 iirc and hard pity of 90
zzz actually
tells u exactly how many more pulls before hard pity
Any advice for relics on Huohuo?
regi making me 1 million credits a month on my supports
first the videotape thing and now this? i thought she already had a girlfriend?
She has a partner who is a robot but other than that I don’t remember who she associates with
various women she thirsts after/thirsts after her but shes still single (from what we know)
also i found fischl in zzz again
Lelouch Lamperouge, One Hundredth Emperor of Neo Britannia and Lord of the Geass Order
yooo, is that the red comet?
you know what else is red?
that's right, it's ||JOHNNY RIDDEN, THE CRIMSON LIGHTNING||
This stupid blonde man won't leave me alone
OC2 feels like playing smt
i love MSMM but the premise doesnt seem very good for a gacha game
magia record already exists, so it's not like they ain't done it before
yipee
this has to be the goofiest IS run i've done so far
who the fuck needs ground units when you have gg + chivalric commandments with 45 ingots + reagent + casters gain 40% aspd
side note i like saga's mechanics it's neat
phantom just fucking disintegrated this is too much power
based natto gohan enjoyer
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Complete the relevant even...
i need these old fucks to be playable
Ty recruit tab
11/10 trailer lmao
And I don't even play ZZZ
I've realized that I definitely prefer my gachas to be turn-based or low-effort in terms of the combat complexity
Not an ironclad rule, I'm willing to break it, but in general
Because I'm either playing on a tiny phone or a tablet, neither of which allows a ton of real time complexity
some games really want to be something other than a gacha but its still limited by it
are you me
It's taking so much effort not to just post an Emiya jpg right now
can you keep up with me
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peak?
@rapid bough al global anni stream starts in about an hour and a half if you're interested in that
honestly? based
i grew up on turn based combat, with all its strengths and flaws
Gotta agree, the more involved a gacha is the more likely I am to drop it
nothing better to do so i'll prolly tune in
also pog nikke x evangelion collab
Your OC can run games? Jealous
get in the robot
nikke SKK is already an expert at getting in robots ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Mid comes to mid
(I’m kidding, nikke isn’t that bad)
nikke has by far my favorite story of the gachas i've played... which isn't saying much since i've only played 5, but still
gameplay is not the highlight lol
wouldn't be able to talk about nikke's story
how does the story justify the gameplay actually
my favorite out of gachas that i can recall is fgo's, even if it goes off the rails sometimes
i want to like azur lane's but good god it's annoying to parse
I havent really read much of arknights story but i just have so much story backlog
another eden has its moments, but its story strength is definitely more in its side content
arknights' story is actually really solid too
not sure what you mean
Fgo and arknights are the big offenders
i think he means "how does the story justify ass.game"
nah I meant "how good is the story to make gameplay like that worth it"
I think khaios doesnt mind the gameplay tbh
zzz is my favorite atm followed by genshin then hsr but outside of these 3 the only gacha i played was fire emblem heroes
Iirc the assault robots are designed to look like women for commander morale
and ofc i also love star rail's story
unfortunately my device hates playing it properly
I will say
star rail story was pretty good. genshin's story takes a bit to get going but once it does its amazing. and zzz has potential. imma let them cooj.
the answer to this is obviously forced because ofc they want all the characters to be sexy women
*cook
It unironically goes into a lot of detail on how the nikke play in society and how the over status of the world is
but there are deep in-universe justifications for why nikkes are all 10/10 supermodels
like nikke does put a lot of effort into its worldbuilding
it's not just lazily lampshaded as "well they're sexy women because that's what players want"
Out of all the gacha stories ive read its like
Limbus >> arknights > fgo(ignore the first 4 singularities and agartha)>>> hsr > everything else
i'm sure there are
Limbus is the one gacha I think I've gone out of my way to not skip any story bits, and if I do for lunacy purposes I go back and read them afterwards
it's got nothing to do with commander morale, because 99% of commanders (the MC is basically the only exception) treat nikkes like shit
Like how since they’re underground, they have rain and artificial sky systems to make sure people don’t panic, apparently at one point there were riots that caused a lot of damage because the sky simulation system failed and the majority of people don’t know they live underground

this is straight up ripped from azur lane
They do treat them like shit
everything else >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feh*
And some assault them in both ways
the reason all nikkes are women is just because, in-universe, men can't become nikkes
And that’s considered “okay”
I know you haven't played feh but I need to say it
feh story was shit and the gameplay ran dry super fast
I didnt even read the story in feh, imma be honest with you
feh story is pretty basic yeah
Bro we were literally friends in feh 
when they were first starting the "nikke project" they tried it for both men and women, but the failure rate for making men into nikkes was like 100%
i remember liking the villains initially and then they did fuck and all with veronica and her brother
so i lost all interest when the fire nation attacked basically
OH MY GOD
HOW LONG AGO WAS THAT
This remidns of a tweet, wait a second
It’s basically a never ending cycle of “and then the new nation appeared and attacked each other”
yes, and the reason the story was written this way is because hot women sell : ^)
really? i thought azur lane SKK was basically the only commander
duh lol
the sex scenes in fate werent unnecessary. they had to do it or theyd run out of mana and die. it says it right there.
skk is the one on the front lines leading them, but there are other organizations involved
but they do actually justify it
did i miss something or was it excluded from unlimited bladeworks
A year or so i think
and their treatment of shipgirls is...well let's just say they are weapons
They got removed when the series didn’t want to be an eroge anymore
based mana transfer
So all new releases including the new visual novels don’t have them
yeah nikke's the same way, though tbh i figure it's less "ripped from AL" and more "this is the basic subplot necessary to make MC special + center of a harem"
return to 2003 roots
Iirc it’s still part of lore though that mana transfers do work like that
yeah i was joking
They should have a sex scene at the end of fgo just to see how much better nasu has gotten at writing them
it's a pretty standard plot device: you, the player, are a decent person, while the organization you work for is pretty trash
as for why nikkes are all sexy, besides obvious reasons, the in-universe justification is that when you become a nikke, your (robot) body takes on the appearance of your subconscious ideal appearance
has nasu written a sex scene since hollow ataraxia?
with all that time off he's probably gotten worse
Prolly not, which would make it all the more funny
the original Fate VN, without going into rule-breaking territory, had very forced eroge scenes (which was because that's how you sold copies back in the good ol' year of 2004) and the prose was both hilarious and terrible
and there's also a whole lot of lore about how nikke bodies (despite being 100% robotic except for a human brain) are deliberately made to be as close to a human's as possible, even forsaking the possible benefits of, for instance, having a machine gun for an arm or rockets in your shoulder or whatever
The word defenceless comes to mind
tbf i wonder how much of our percepction of nasu's writing is just based on the fan translations we got
basically because early nikkes were actual walking weapons, and the human brains inside them suffered from severe disassociation with their bodies and caused them to go insane
and that's how doujins are born
so now they go out of their way to limit inhuman modifications to nikke bodies
indeed
i know AL shipgirls are openly very thirsty for the commander but i'm not sure how much the commander canonically reciprocates
bit of a controversial take but you can't make any sex scene read good
but nikke SKK absolutely... uh, gets around, shall we say
That depends on you as the player
canon sex?
in actual story there isn't real reciprocation as far as i can tell
obviously it's all implied (there are no sex scenes lol) but there's extremely heavy implications to the point it's basically impossible to think there wasn't seggs
there are hints to things in some of the skins, though
and ofc there's the marriage system
or if you're in china, "best friends"
or, if you're a Bandai property, "up to interpretation"
off the top of my head, nj summer skin, glorious yukata skin
Iirc fgo has some canon stuff too like bunny artorias vip suite
the recent nikke summer event had the commander and another nikke very blatantly start making out at the very least
are the ones with direct (but not actually visible for obvoius reasons) implications
some people think the scene implied sex too but i don't buy it
re: AL, i haven't been around long enough to know, but i feel like recent skins have to be pushing the envelope on just how horni the shipgirls are for SKK
some of them are, sure
some of the newer skin lines quite literally are "seggs me now"
they don't have to, though
glorious skin's a few years old iirc
nj's was just last year, tho
right, what i mean is that it seems like every new skin does it now
sorta related to this but lemme dm you something
i've been around for 3 skinline releases (CN anni with alsace/mogador skins, the lusty skin a month or two ago, and the recent racer strasbourg skin)
all of them have at least one (sometimes several) lines that are actually just inviting the commander to seggs lol
lusty skin even does the motion with her hands
The NJ skin is like… Uber obvious
again my point isn't that it's new, it's just that every skin seems to be doing it now
i didn't have NJ at the time of the recent rerun of her summer skin so it didn't occur to me to get her skin
i will forever regret this decision
and by "forever" i mean "until next year, probably"
oh that's right doesn't AL have a black friday skin sale where basically every past skin (except ones released that year) reruns in the shop
all hope is not lost
Idr i havent played al in ages
i'd take a screenshot of some of the alsace skin lines that are just openly asking for SKK to seggs her up but it's impossible without at least parts of her bikini in the background which is not remotely appropriate to post in this chat lol
yes
you'll be able to get it around that time
My god, theres around a 100 skins in the shop rn in arknights i forgot how ridiculous it gets
you can switch between the two at your leisure
i'll eventually miss using her at all when i get enough URs, but she'll never leave my secretary slot
there are 5 of them, so you have plenty of space
and for the purposes of the idle secretary screen, gotta be using the summer skin
and even if you have all the ur's you can still use her in op si
and nj's still better than every gold battleship so it's not like she's at all unusable
yeah it'll be a long time until she's completely phased out
but it'll hurt to not use Best Girl
blessed
currently i'm only oathing shipgirls that have unique skins for it
fdg is next
then musashi, once she reruns
musashi's set to be the next ur rerun
I forgot that there was a shio named after fritz
however i'm pretty sure there are some standard events between vg and her
so those might come first on the rerun schedule
you'll probably be waiting a bit for her
that's fine
idr did you get alsace?
i know JP anni is coming up which will be at least one new UR
aight so that's fine then
except the mu event since i didn't know shit at that point
you have alsace nj fdg for rainbow battleships
vanguard too
ye
though vanguard and fdg aren't MLB'd yet
vanguard i'll be able to MLB once i finished the cruise pass
fdg is dev 24
coining 10 BPs every day
so a while away, and even further still from fs5
yes, but at least there's a light at the end of that tunnel
i'm sorta annoyed they started dropping 2x ur's, not bc more good ships is a bad thing, but bc each one needs 4 rainbow bulins and i'm not made of specialized core
lol
at least you can get 6k/month now instead of 4
it is unfortunate in general that AL is in the late stages of the rainbow powercreep so it's hard to get super hyped for new ships
but at the end of the day most people are playing for the shipgirl designs anyway so w/e
golds can still be pretty good even in the rainbow era
i can still get hyped because resources and ships release at a slow enough cadence that i'm still months to even years away from having a full enough dock to build an "optimal" fleet
friedrich carl is a pretty solid ca, owari is a very solid battleship, etc
yeah it's not an issue with the weakness of golds
if anything golds are stronger than ever before on average
but being purple is basically a death sentence for most of them
strasbourg from a filler event is actually really solid for instance
but it's just the feeling that, once you have a full-ish roster of rainbows, they outclass even the best golds to the point that it's hard getting hyped for any non-rainbow ship
strasbourg got done dirty imo
i'm honestly surprised she wasn't rainbow
no i mean i think she got actively shafted in her kit
o
my history nerd was kicking in
idk why they made alsace rainbow when she didn't actually exist but strasbourg, the actual flagship of the french fleet, gets gold
she's extremely flimsy for what she is and i'm not a big fan of giving battleships < 3 main gun mounts
and her barrage needs vichya ships specifically to get to 100%
yeah the vichya requirement to remove RNG is hella awkward
it'd have been okay to just let it be french in general, but nope
gotta run mogador and l'audicieux or whatever, i guess
i hope one day AL implements some sort of content that makes faction fleets worth using
you can get away with playing faction fleets in most content
they're just never gonna be good by virtue of being faction fleets
yeah i know
you can incidentally stack a fleet with 6 good ships of the same faction
i'm talking about content that limits your fleetbuilding options to only ships of a certain faction, for example
ye
but i think the devs generally want to keep people's options open
nikke has content that does the equivalent (each nikke has one of four manufacturer types, and there's content where you can only build teams with nikkes of a particular manufacturer)
it's not very good content or particularly well-implemented
but it's something that promotes a little variety when you get into late stage powercreep or have a roster so full that you can make any one of 20 possible fleets that can shitstomp almost all content
i think at most they could do content where you play azur lane or crimson axis and have to use factions within those
doing purely faction based seems a bit odd when you consider the relatively small size of some of the factions
to say nothing of tempesta
even ones like dragon empery are pretty small in comparison
AL at least has the benefit of mostly defaulting to 2 "squad" content, i.e. you need at least 12 units in some arrangement to clear relevant content
that's more than i can say of nikke
you really only need one squad (of 5) to do things in nikke, unless you want to min-max PvP
so once you get the 5 "best" units you're just locked into that composition forevermore outside of once-a-month "raid" content that forces you to use more squads
is nikke pvp particularly necessary?
it's not necessary but if you min-max it to any degree you do actually get premium pull currency from it
so it's worthwhile if you have the time or inclination
hmm aight
i'm typically not a big fan of pvp in gachas where it's core to progression
and that comes pretty close if it's a good way of getting pulls
but if the character acquisition model is like azur lane's and whales aren't super advantaged, i could possibly let it pass
unfortunately whales are advantaged in nikke PvP because you can get dupes past MLB that give 2% stat increases up to... i think 9 dupes? so 18% stats
good lord
so super high level PvP is a whalefest
that's just feh
that said, you can get top-level rewards with good compositions and no whaling
source: me, who does that
aight
as a whole though nikke's rates and free pull currency are generous enough that i wouldn't consider PvP "core", though it's nearing that threshold since ofc who wants to miss out on large sums of pull currency
and it is pretty significant, if you get to near-top level rewards like me then it's 2000 gems every 2 weeks, and that's 6 pulls (300 gems/pull)
just had a thought: nikke x fgo, the collab units are s valkyrie and s osakabehime bc they both use smg's and whatnot
(this won't happen)
there are units in nikke that use swords, they can get creative with it if they want
honestly surprised we don't have a bow and arrow nikke yet
yeah that's disgusting
i don't hate sao but ffs please don't
agreed
if they did f kirito instead of like... asuna, sinon, and suguha or something i would be shooketh
i'm thinking sinon and some of the characters from the ggo side story
llenn, pitohui etc
i'm sure they'd purposely exclude kirito physically from any collab event, gotta only have the girls
that's what they did with the re:zero collab
emilia/rem/ram but no subaru
i'm sure this evangelion collab won't have shinji lol
arc 7 spoilers ||not even natsumi schwarz lol||
though i suppose there's no way a gacha collab with re:zero is spoliing shit that happens in vollachia
i haven't watched re:zero but i could tell the entire content of the collab was very superficial, basically no references to the plot at all
the re:zero anime currently covers through arc 4 iirc
the thing in my spoiler is way far ahead of that
I kinda hate collabs like that im ngl
if you're at all interested in watching re:zero, now's a good time
since the next season of it starts airing in october
yeah i know
Not a big fan of isekai, i think ill pass
in general i just don't watch many shows at all nowadays though
and after you get caught up, you can read translations of the web novel
surely this is just most collabs? especially ones that are more based on IP popularity and willingness to collab, and not necessarily on similarities between the two IPs
Not in arknights, baybee
yeah most collabs in my experience dont' really tie directly to the source story
like re:zero probably has absolutely no similarities with nikke, even just starting at the setting
they tend to be very side things
nikke did do a nier automata collab and apparently that tied in more to the stories of both
arknights is probably an exception in that regard
but they are two very similar IPs in terms of setting and story
I fucking love how arknights collabs with monster hunter and rainbow 6 intertwined the worlds
That shit rocks
i could see this upcoming evangelion collab having more tie-ins than usual
imagine being a hunter just making a living killing big game
maybe solely based on the fact that both nikke and evangelion are glorified depression simulators
and all of a sudden your mark succumbs to magic rock cancer
at least mc gets to have sex

monster hunter?
Yeah
ye arknights had a monster hunter collab
wait is arknights a tower defense game?
yes
rip
probably none at all lol, idt the collab will be that deep
i meant in terms of interpersonal relations
the in-universe justification for these collabs is that there's a "gatekeeper" rapture (main enemy in nikke) that randomly sleeps and dreams people from alternate timelines/universes into existence in the nikke world
then they encounter MC and his motley crew and go on whatever journey is necessary to get them back to their source world
ayy based granblue fantasy
so i imagine shinji being absent will be a simple "we got teleported but not him lmao classic shinji all alone"
Ratalos noir corne looks so cool i wish yatos outfit was better
kirin yato is fine tho
I think its one of the weaker mh armors
AL global anni livestream soon
isn't global anni the lamest one generally lol
sort of a filler between CN and JP annis
in comparison to those two, yes
even so, there's still always some hype around it
just don't expect a ur, bc that ain't happening
i wasn't, and kinda happy there's not lol
like you said, too many URs too fast is lowkey annoying
the funniest ones are always when they get the actual us navy to congratulate us for the anni
because you sit around with a bunch of unleveled URs you can't use
because of the obvious disconnect between the goddamn us navy and anime shipfu game
honestly based
there was one year they had it on an actual ship
yes there is a disconnect but the ideal world is one where the two are one and the same
real shipfus when
i mean, there are times the community has stepped up irl for ships
getting new jersey into drydock for example
that's actually pretty awesome lol
gives me world of warships/warthunder/etc. vibes where people leak classified military documents just to settle arguments about in-game designs
but 10x better because AL is anime shipfus
yeah this is just hilarious too
I wonder if Vice Admiral Katz knows that his deployment ship is represented by a big boobed anime girl now lol
if he didn't know then, he prolly knows now
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reminder this exists
we're reaching based levels that shouldn't even be possible
damn USS iowa isn't even in-game is she, NJ is but not the lead ship of her class
gotta imagine that's a future UR in waiting
iowa isn't playable yet, correct
i view her as one of their "break glass for more money" buttons
just like yamato lol
along with yamato
honkai: star rail
wait wat
they just casually dropped indiana's design lmao
i was sitting here thinking "wait is indiana new???"
this makes me want EN voiceover for azur lane but no shot we ever get that
arknights got it gradually, they'd probably have to do the same with azur lane
but there are way more playables in azur lane
it's also... uh, super raunchy
they may understandably have trouble finding VAs that want to be associated with it lol
especially given not every character is a big tiddy shipfu
it's raunchy but it's not hentai and even big name va's have done hentai
dan green being an older example
i don't think the raunchiness necessarily holds it back
but the sexualization of apparent minors (i.e. loli shit) might put it on a lot of people's blacklists
fake news
i'm sure i saw most oathed
most researched pr5 and 6 make no sense to track either since they've been out a year or 2 and everyone eligible should have done all of them by now
(says i, who still haven't finished ruprecht)
stream reminding me i need to go actually get one of the tb secretary alts
cannot overstate how annoying i found project identity to play
i min-maxxed it on my first try and got the alt i liked most and will prolly never play it again lol
i did my run on release, when min-maxes weren't all fleshed out yet
and haven't touched it since
it's absolutely wild that this stream isn't censored on youtube lol
have they shown anything particularly bad yet?
some of the art they've flashed i would have expected to be censored
and that starting 3d animation of NJ/enty on the beach was pushing it
fwiw that opening pv is age restricted on youtube
maybe i'm just used to nikke though, they arguably overcensor their streams prolly to be safe
yeah there isn't much if any censorship on azur lane streams
at least not the jp/global ones
china might be different bc...well...china
people in chat coping for iowa lol
if iowa's not a ur people will riot, and this event ain't having a ur in it

i theorycrafted her skill upgrade earlier, but they'll never do it
upgrade her first skill, make the barrage trigger every 10 seconds instead of just after 10 seconds, and improve its numbers
would you keep the trigger on salvo too? if not it might be annoying to lose syncing opportunities with it
LMAO that fargo skin interaction
Of course
I'm not gonna theory a ur skill upgrade and nerf her in the process lol
Also my computer crashed so I have to reload it
Can't track stream at this second
unicorn cheerleader skin pog
yeah her base retro appearance is already great
but i always will naturally gravitate toward skins for shipgirls that you'll use a lot
oh boy, mommy fdg l2d skin
Which is why I use her nurse skin
I also have her free idol skin but it's incredibly dated
i'm cooked, 100% chance i buy this
fate sim for shimanto, flandre, and felix schultz
YOOO
login rewards for anni
that's hot
That's expected, but yes
but we don't get those rewards do we? on global, that is
i don't remember getting 700 gems during CN anni anyway lol
or a free ring
Anyway, on my way to invest in eldridge stocks
you said she was pvp gated, where/how do you get her
20k merit
ah is the 20k merit ship on a rotation
currently lil enty has le malin mu up
guess i'm saving merit for when eldridge is in rotation
not that i'm gonna be retro'ing her any time soon
but may as well get owning her out of the way lol
I already have her;I bought her year 1
But she's not built at all
prior to her retrofit eldridge is pretty meh
iirc she's mainly an evasion meme
post-retro i expect her to be very good, but obv we'll have to see what she gets specifically
was warspite the first UR retro? because it seems like UR retros since then (yuudachi + sandy) have made their ships insanely better whereas warspite is still kinda mid
damn so was warspite's bad even at the time it came out?
warspite retro was great on release
powercreep is a hell of a drug huh
she's just been outdone by the slew of gacha rainbow battleships we got
seems like she's outdone even by a lot of the new SR BBs
and the cost of a ur retrofit is an arm, a leg, your firstborn child, and your penis
all for performance that is...passable
i haven't directly compared her to more recent gold battleships but i wouldn't be surprised ifthe likes of flandre/constellation/owari outdo her too
oh new project identity stuff
in-game battle UI updates pog
yeah, guess i'll find some time to min max project identity for a cute tb skin
text chat system with shipgirls EXTREME pog
inb4 it's ai
nah seems more like prescripted "bond" event exchanges
nikke has something very similar
no escape from scam cat
i think this VA is the same as the english VA of nekomata in ZZZ lol
not coincidentally also a catgirl
i'm still dwelling on eldridge retro
to be fair, all of the current ur retros are pretty easy to access for f2p
but i'm not sure eldridge was the best pick
it gets points for being a ship prolly no one expected lol
true
typecasted smh
mildly entertaining stream, eldridge UR retro was definitely the biggest news lmao
in terms of things that impact me, that mommy fdg l2d skin is calling me
- the bunch of free stuff, gems and promise ring especially, is always welcome
wait wtf
i exited early and apparently completely missed a post-credit scene confirming anchorage oath skin

that free promise ring is going to anchorage immediately lol
fdg's l2d is long overdue lol
obligatory summary thread
alrighty, so new ship-wise, my favorite of the base designs is probably fargo
i guess i'm a sucker for the cyber aesthetic they've been doing with some of the more recent american ships
kearsarge, constellation, now fargo
although constellation seems more cyber/angel hybrid, still
indiana's fine but feels more of the same as her sisters
sodak/alabama/massachusetts
pittsburgh even more so relative to baltimore, tbh
bremerton still feels like the more unique ship of that bunch
but that's just on aesthetic, hopefully the characterizations help out
i will say indiana's rigging is neat
guam got a gundam and now indiana gets this
so i guess they're continuing that trend too
whenever they drop alaska hers is gonna be something insane, isn't it?
oh right she's i guess another break glass for money ship
since they keep teasing her but never showing
anyway i guess it actually was most researched ships for pr5 and 6
so i'm fucking blind
- NJ
- Unicorn (retro)
- Bis Zwei
- Shimakaze
- Unzen
for most used
- NJ
- Unzen
- Bis Zwei
- Musashi
- Kearsarge
for most oathed
- Shinano swimsuit
- Unzen swimsuit
- Alsace swimsuit
- Kearsarge bunny
- Hindenburg bunny
for most popular skins
(nj skin was originally released before last anni so most of the people who'd have bought hers did so at that point, presumably)
then for reseraches
PR5
- Plymouth
- Prinz Rupprecht
- Brest
PR6
- Kearsarge
- Hindenburg
- Shimanto
PR7
- Admiral Nakhimov
- Napoli
- Halford
i find it funny that some people are malding over indiana's rigging since it's not enough like her sisters
.....apparently they forgot that the most recent of those sisters was released in like 2020
i don't really have a problem with it
her non-rigging aesthetic feels samey compared to her sisters, so they have that
unrelated to any of that, still no anson for people to meme about
this is an american event and the next one will be jp so she's not coming for a while either lol
at this point i wonder if she's just permanently dead
gone the way of ryuuhou's swimsuit
Oh I think I heard about that controversy, their sisters are all like “big” types and they are like a kid right? I can understand why people are upset
no that's different
This took way too long to make
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the message you replied to is about indiana and her sisters
indiana has a mecha stand for a rigging
some people are upset about that bc it's not close enough to her sisters
the anson thing is somethign entirely different, and i've already talked about it in here
Ahhh okay
