its not nearly as cool as foul legacy childe
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runic ether
mortal iron
Tbh i kinda wish her phase 2 had like...a mask or smth
Her head just doesnt feel like it matches with the rest of the fit
runic ether
story ||we know she isnt going all out. so we can hope we get a phase 3 eventually when she actually does go all out with an updated design with a mask cus yeah the fatui all being named after comedia del arte i fully expect us to get masks for each of them like signora and childe and scara (technically)||
only concern is how they would ever top her phase 2 boss theme
its actually so good
idle grove
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glossy latch
Yeah Foul Legacy Childe is actually sick as hell
To the point where I want it to be a character of its own
Phase 2 ||Arle|| is just ... the same but less cool?
||Its Arle if she was designed like the average female Genshin character||
runic ether
lmao
again
story bit
||she isnt going all out yet. so i imagine this is just her using a portion of her power more intensely and we will hopefully get a more dignified form.|| the cleaveage isnt even a big deal it just doesnt feel a significant enough upgrade overall to her base form.
glossy latch
I mean its not a big deal but it feels less interesting personally
Because unlike Signoras it doesnt really fit ||Arle||as a character?
(From what I can tell)
||Also hold on isnt the Traveler supposed to be broken?||
||She isnt even one of the 3 that are meant to be on par with Archons||
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||Also hold on isnt the Traveler supposed to be broken?||
traveler needs a training arc
we lost all our powers
runic ether
story ||a lot of ppl are comparing her to this one bleach character who was 4th place in his org but actually significantly stronger than the 1st to 3rd||
||i can believe that capitano and columbina is stronger but she probably beats dottore||
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most big fights we had assistance
runic ether
||the realistic #2 or 3 but doesnt try and go farther||
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the only world boss we beat by ourself was signers
glossy latch
Assuming Im right in my guess that the Genshin devs are also fans of Falcom
||I am pretty certain capitano is the peak||
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every other world boss otjer people had to clean up
runic ether
||of course. hes getting glazed every other patch lmao||
no need to spoiler that actually
capitano been getting glazed since like
1.2
glossy latch
Falcom games also have a tendency to have the strongest characters have few to no powers
runic ether
the grandmaster of the knights went out on an expedition to take out threats to mondstat but avoided fighting capitano
out of mutual respect but his strength
glossy latch
And instead just be extremely good fighters with superhuman physical capabilities
runic ether
couple of fatui operatives in mondstat say they wished they got put with his squad
he got glazed by childe
saying hes so powerful he wont notice childe's power yet
we got more info after that by rosaria iirc? more context of varka and capitano meeting
more glazing about how worthy he is of respect and such
took a bit of a break of the glazing for the 2.x patches until the fatui vid
then more glazing when mika released
since varka sent him back to mondstat to report on the expedition progress to jean and kaeya
and mika glazed capitano again
and now 4.2 through 4.6 has been capitano glazing in the story
not all the time ofc
but hes absolutely getting hyped up
ah right scara glazes him too even tho he hates everyone
glossy latch
Yeah he's gonna be the equivalent of like
The S-rank bracers, masters of entire schools of swordsmanship or the Steel Maiden
... probably the last given that he is still masked
long tree
Idk I could probably take captiano tbh
glossy latch
Assuming he doesn't wield a unique weapon Claymore is likely
runic ether
but itd be a pleasant surprise if he is a catalyst and fights like wrio
glossy latch
If he does, I'd suspect spear actually
dull bridge
but itd be a pleasant surprise if he is a catalyst and fights like wrio
that's what im@expecting ngl
dull bridge
like hand to hand combat
runic ether
i think he might use a unique weapon
runic ether
claymore but its a hammer
glossy latch
The really massive things
runic ether
ah an ultra greatsword like dark souls
runic ether
ah
hmmmm
maybe
i do think fists makes sense
supposedly we are supposed to meet columbina and capitano in natlan
columbina is the most catalyst looking user of all time
so that one makes sense
hmmmm
though maybe sword
childe = bow
scara = catalyst
arle = polearm
columbina = sword
capitano = claymore
though genshin isnt one for patterns unless the pyro archon really is a claymore user
super old leaks said dottore is a claymore user
which... idk that doesnt really fit
glossy latch
Im not sure the top 3 will be playable tbh
runic ether
more and more people seem to distrust or dislike him
runic ether
Im not sure the top 3 will be playable tbh
we know dottore will be
since his model is a player character model
same way arle's was
this is also how ppl figured out signora wasnt gonna be playable
since she never had a player character model
dull bridge
yeah
and how we know skirk will be playable
since she has a character model
not a NPC model
long tree
Skirk not being playable would be a crime
runic ether
but her model is a player character model
long tree
I think my next saving goal will be the pyro archon
3 patches should be enough for guaranteed
runic ether
ill wait for leaks
dull bridge
3 patches should be enough for guaranteed
especially with natlan
runic ether
while u can usually count on archons being great
pyro archon is walking straight into hell for a genshin character
pyro support? unlikely to be better than bennett
long tree
The pyro archon is just a Bennett xiangling potara fusion
runic ether
pyro off-fielder? guoba get them
dull bridge
pyro dps
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long tree
Ye
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ic
long tree
Phat plunge and infusion
runic ether
yup and high base atk
runic ether
yep
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hot cloud retianer
runic ether
xianyun
dull bridge
yeah that
runic ether
gaming's and freminet's multipliers on plunges are higher iirc
but they have much lower base atk
either wya
*way
dull bridge
yeah
old galleon
took a salter dupe with the selector, as is tradition
runic ether
pyro archon has to powercreep or at least be like
the yelan to xingqiu
but to bennett or xiangling
dull bridge
god I love genshin so much I wish I could play it more
runic ether
or they are cooked
idle grove
granblue is truly a game
https://twitter.com/Danchou81468699/status/1784655700049666496?t=wLj2wUiViVqAjm4EUmTluQ&s=19
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old galleon
yeah that's chloe in a nutshell
my new pet peeve is people who have mlb cranking and put it on everyone but their castoria
dude legit has it on koyan/skadi/merlin and put regular cranking on castoria
like wtf
i could have sort of understood if it were oberon, but merlin?
it's annoying bc the comp i'm using for 90+ needs support castoria
sanzang/helena/castoria/oberon/2 filler
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honest pawn
hey guy am I using Maid Ryoshu wrong or do you just wanna use her S2 as often as possible for the haste and crits
honest pawn
oh no she's cracked
genuinely the strat might be to run Ryoshu with Kimsault, 3 other BL ID's, and double-slot Ryoshu
maybe run R Heathcliff if I want gluttony for Faust
or Cinqlair
old galleon
i went back a while in chat trying to find something else and came upon what might be my worst all time take
i'm roasting myself for this one
honest pawn
it was almost a year ago, you need to forgive yourself
old galleon
yeah but y vania is one of the best overall characters in wind
and my take was to put her on the level of one of the worst illustrious weapons lol
i'm not beating myself up over it, i just found it hilariously bad
old galleon
finally getting started on doing these
went for a 2x dps setup with aldo as a secondary to minalca
pretty straightforward, except this challenge fight (along with a lot of the others) was introduced before stellar awakening
so that's an option to extend damage a bit
old galleon
this worked way better than i was expecting
since proto eden still has its stupid barriers on challenge mode, the strat was to bring melissa both to make the turn 1 af easier and to give galliard an extra stack for earlier barrier pierce
the bonuses here were earh and synth human, so this was actually doable
digital marlin
https://vxtwitter.com/DeltyThe73rd/status/1784903832520347780
@thin flax
old galleon
<@384840166323388427>
think you pinged the wrong guy
digital marlin
https://vxtwitter.com/DeltyThe73rd/status/1784903832520347780
@summer hornet
dull bridge
@runic ether this look better?
mortal iron
ah yes finally ascended her
slow raft
hey guy am I using Maid Ryoshu wrong or do you just wanna use her S2 as often as...
Im sorry to say, i have never in my life used maid ryoshu so i have no clue
also HOLY SHIT THOSE WALPURGISNACHT REVEALS
bleed may actually be saved, anguin desires effect of not lowering bleed was kept from lor, which solves one of the biggest issues of bleed
rodion doesnt have a good bleed id yet, noone wants to use her base so the only options are n corp and kurokumo
ig kurokumo is funny, tho an ncorp team might be more cohesive
n corp team also has enough lust to probably supply this ego? i imagine it hes some combination of wrath lust, envy and maybe pride
its also a WAW for some reason, red shoes is barely a HE
its fine tho, rodion isnt lacking good ego in the other psoitions
the sanity loss in subsequent turns hints at a low initila sp cost, which also synergizes with grip faust (this too, is yuri)
now this ego is just
absurd
potentially infinite coins (probably limited at some point, but still), healing and buffing/debuffing
heavy aoe or singletarget at will, ridiculous damage potential
this ego has it all and its not even limited to an archetype
(technically gluttony resonance, but thats not a real time outside maybe rupture gaming)
still its insane, even if theres no ishmael id that properly fuels it solo rn
as for phillip sinclair
hes aight ig
summer hornet
<@226397396895006720>
Thank you for pinging me, I now have a new moneysink
honest pawn
DUDE THESE EGOS
slow raft
my lunacy is ready and waiting
Here i come, Project Moon
Do you have enough egos in stock?
also, i completely forgot to mention, wingbeat is a HE for some reason, even tho fairy festival is ZAYIN
i welcome this change obviously
honest pawn
I could've sworn we were supposed to get a 00 ID as well, but aside from that
it's so peak
torn harbor
I should work on xueyi
idle grove
Twitter
runic ether
<@480437470870110209> this look better?
yeah your crit on jingliu is a tad low but she looks better already
bunch of buffs to clorinde + c1 nerf
weapon buffed now too
dull bridge
yeah your crit on jingliu is a tad low but she looks better already
yeah my luck has been honestly horrible wirj the quantum domain
really aggravating
all of the 3x rewards
i've gotten 1 good peice
but are the speeds good!
or should I make bronya and jingliu closer
@runic ether weird question for aventurine, cd chest and defense orb or imaginary orb and def chest
for most damsge
runic ether
def
dull bridge
double def?
runic ether
hit 4k defense and then worry about other stats
dull bridge
i have 4.3 rn
runic ether
4k def and 134 speed
dull bridge
damn
guess i'm grinding salsetto orbs
😅
should I be on momemnt or trends
I assume trend for a heron
acheron
moment for any other team b
?
runic ether
yes
runic ether
yes
she gets memed but mostly it comes from her being somewhat confused as a character
shes basically fu xuan but in genshin
but they also wanted her to have dps capabilities outside of her ult?
it made little sense
and then u see her cons
and she was whale bait from the start
but c0, shes purely a support giving interrupt resistance and decent pyro app
without a burst
her burst is unlocked at c4 and up
in any case she finds herself as an optimal slot in more than a few teams
namely neuvillette and burnmelt
glossy latch
The lack of burst is ... unfortunate
runic ether
burnmelt in particular is great since the 2 burnmelt carries ganyu and wriothesly really want interruption resistance and ganyu cant enable thoma shield, while wrio will actually need less cryo app
especially without nahida
even then wrio nahida bennett thoma is too much pyro
it will overtake the burning and dendro auras too fast
runic ether
The lack of burst is ... unfortunate
yeah her burst is cool. it just has standard icd so she cant vaoe every hit and if you jump you cancel it
*vape
glossy latch
I have her at C3
runic ether
also efficient to farm since the new burning set has boosted the team dps
ah and running collei also further hurts thoma as an option for burnmelt
glossy latch
And someone needs to use the 5* bows I got
runic ether
aye true
glossy latch
So its like
runic ether
hmm for that team, wrio would favor an em sands
glossy latch
Wrio, Dehya, Collei, anemo?
runic ether
bennett
glossy latch
I need like 3 Bennetts at this point
runic ether
rot goes collei e q -> dehya e -> bennett e q -> dehya 2nd e -> wrio combos
runic ether
~~I need like 3 Bennetts at this point~~
basically everyone does yep lmao
bennett is optimal in like 80% of teams in genshin
at least xingqiu has options like furina and yelan
no one does it like bennett
in pyro archon we trust
surely she will buff as much as he will
even if she isnt a raw upgrade
as long as shes even half as good as yelan
runic ether
dehya wont need pyro archon to be good but surely cant hurt
mortal iron
i wonder why theyre doing 2 5* next patch
we have like...2 patches left i think before Natlan
mortal iron
yeah i dont wanna keep summoning on the weapon banner, clorinde is waiting for me next update smh
runic ether
i have the guarantee
and as much as i dont need it, i would love to get her signature
dull bridge
also holy shit
runic ether
rapiers are cool
dull bridge
you were right
I LOVE aventure
aventurine
He makes shit so easy
and he's really fun ngl
runic ether
2 lofi, 1 freedom sworn, multiple good swords for her
but still pulling sig cus its fucking cool
dull bridge
did it!!
slow raft
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glossy latch
SHE BROUGHT HER OWN SUGAR
Sugar daddy
mortal iron
they should buff arlecchino by ||making her one winged form not take stamina so i dont drown when i'm so close to land||
long tree
Just realised I still gotta keep farming for white tassels
I love rng weapon drops that you can just whiff entirely and permanently miss it
old galleon
recommend holding today's freebies until banner reset
since it will be premium gala
reset should happen about 7 hours from now
runic ether
i keep using self-modeling resin
it keeps rolling godawful substats
its such a scam
also my aventurine hit a 237k ult on this latest pure fiction lol
i know exactly where i lost the last 20k points to hit an even 40k/40k too
slow raft
what relicset does herta use?
i assume either glacial hunter 2pc/ashblazing 2 pc or glacial hunter 4 pc but im not too sure
slow raft
i figured
runic ether
the copout is 4pc quantum or 4pc pioneer
but the debuffs just arent there in a normal herta team
slow raft
himkeo uses 4 ashlazing or do you do some weird stuff with pioneer?
runic ether
the issue for herta on ashblazing grand duke
is that the stacks clear on the next fua
slow raft
mistyped lol
slow raft
figures
runic ether
she has much better uptime on it
since you can directly control when she turns her pizza cutter sideways
u can semi-control it with herta but she can fail to get max stacks and then it can snowball in a bad way
where u cant get consistent uptime leading to less damage leading to less fua
its usually not an issue in pf
slow raft
if i use guinaifen in an archeron team, do i still use prisoner 4pc or is it a firesmith/messenger angle?
summer hornet
aaand I just lost a round against the ~~ice ~~ water mat boss in Genshin because I brought a full melee team and they started off with three water birds
That's annoying
runic ether
but i also havent farmed ashblazing so hard that i can equip topaz, aventurine, herta and himeko
runic ether
if i use guinaifen in an archeron team, do i still use prisoner 4pc or is it a f...
sure
guinaifen is basically aoe silver wolf
slow raft
but i also havent farmed ashblazing so hard that i can equip topaz, aventurine, ...
suffering from success
runic ether
aaand I just lost a round against the ~~ice ~~ water mat boss in Genshin because...
rhodeia is obnoxious yes
slow raft
(sure to what)
slow raft
its the same node as ashblazing which makes things easier so ig thats a plus
runic ether
this is the build im on for her
im still pursuing another 16 points of speed on her
its super doable
her body, head, and rope have no speed
that could easily get me the last 17~ points
slow raft
its becoming rather obvious which nodes i should prioritize
at some point ill also actually enter for whom i already have decent pieces
runic ether
u can technically add eagle set
slow raft
im not going for that
runic ether
since it is technically, the best support set in theory on bronya and sparkle but like
ew
slow raft
it would hurt my soul
runic ether
glacial hunter also is exactly good as a 2pc on herta
runic ether
yea
slow raft
prayge
runic ether
its never truly bad to hit
slow raft
true true
also these messenger pieces were all ass lmao
actually
def, def% and effect res on a messenger head isnt terrible
hp% as the last roll
it is acceptable
slow raft
ask and ye shall receive
def %
slow raft
wait wrong one
slow raft
now thats what i call a blade piece
this one had def percent
the other one got crit dmg
runic ether
slow raft
maybe this is just an upgrade then
slow raft
nah, longevous
runic ether
same
slow raft
speed rolls 🙏
1 roll is speed 
second is ehr
third is hp 😔
4th is hp%
still p good tho
runic ether
usable
slow raft
what speed o i want pela at again?
i imagine 160 is optimal but i got her at 138 atm
runic ether
160 but above acheron at minimum
acheron going at 134
161 is best but 172 is the most optimized high investment u can go
slow raft
acheron going at 134
110 but im working on it 
perhaps the easiest switch of my life
last stat is crit dmg
runic ether
slow raft
runic ether
110 but im working on it <:KEKW:622347587516628993>
slow acheron is fine
but she desires even more 161 speed pela and your other debuffer
like gui or wolf or sampo or welt
slow raft
gui atm
runic ether
works just fine at slow speeds if u can get to 160+ speed on pela and gui then
summer hornet
ngl I'm surprised the Traveler refused to help lift the Vision Hunt Decree at the start
runic ether
can ignore speed on acheron tho imo its more comfortable to have speed on acheron
summer hornet
I'm sure they'll end up doing it eventually, whether deliberately or by circumstance, but it's not what I expected
runic ether
since cc or slowing of your characters can hurt your rotation more
slow raft
ideally id want a fast archeron yea, but well see what my luck will be like
now to get back to farming primos
after all im only 140 away from arle
(<-delusional)
slow raft
the unluckiest gacha player in history vs the unluckiest gacha player of today
(do not look at my dnd rolls)
glossy latch
I mean my luck is 50/50
idle grove
man
glossy latch
I got 5* with a won 50/50 in 10 rolls twice now
runic ether
its just your weap banner roll here huh
slow raft
whats the trace lvel order on himeko btw?
i assume talent > skill > ult > basic
runic ether
mhm
summer hornet
aventurine's swag too different
finishing the 2.1 quest?
slow raft
got my ass beaten in spiral abyss, it turns out 40 is simply to high a level for me
this freminet character kinda fun tho
runic ether
he is
his numbers are just not amazing
but he can do quite a few teams surprisingly well
he can do freeze, melt, physical, and hyperfridge
runic ether
hes definitely the best sustainer in the game rn
he trades fu xuan's crit rate and hp up and healing for near infinite/infinite shields in the right team
and his damage is damn good
chaining pig -> chalk -> gamba is a lot of damage
idle grove
can't stop the gamba
runic ether
im still hunting for better relics for him and a cdmg body for topaz
i also would like a crit rate body for ratio
and then the team will be ready
it already clears well
but it can be even better
idle grove
my team is still on the copium gear right now unfortunately
but even still aventurine is goated with the gamba
idle grove
he is
summer hornet
runic ether
ratiorine is the most canon gay couple hoyo has released since kavehaitham
its kinda crazy
mostly cus i would have expected the chinese gov to step in at some point
idle grove
my team is still on the copium gear right now unfortunately
speaking of which they forgot to put sauce on my aventurine
runic ether
it isnt actually that hard to hit and a fully leveled lc will help
woe, osse be upon ye
idle grove
it isnt actually that hard to hit and a fully leveled lc will help
ah yeah that makes sense
idle grove
one or two def-focused relics should cover it, no?
I guess I need the 5* def relics for sure
runic ether
ah u are still missing 5 star def pieces then u should be totally fine
mortal iron
my brain gets crosswired when hsr and genshin terms overlap
summer hornet
Across the HoyoVerse
slow raft
i should probably start building towards a team at this point, til now ive just been rocking overcharge gaming + traveler fro some of the puzzles and babara for healing
glossy latch
Eh, Id save teambuilding properly until later, this early you dont have much of a team
... do level Xiangling though
Shes stupid
slow raft
ive heard that but what exactly does she do outside of pyro application?
glossy latch
Silly amounts of damage
slow raft
just stupid numbers?
glossy latch
Pretty much
Well that and her ult "snapshots"
Meaning it doesnt keep checking your stats but just takes your stats on cast for the entire duration
glossy latch
Or on-field buffs
Benny (another fire 4* and arguably the best pure damage support) makes a field that gives a lot of extra attack
Xiangling can cast in that field and keep that bonus permanently
(Well permanently as in for the duration of the pyronado)
Oh also her pyronado has no icd
Meaning it can use elemental reactions on every single hit
Pyro has some good ones
mortal iron
I will say, level up lynette aswell, mostly coz she's budget yelan in terms of overworld gaming
Just a skill that runs quick that also doesnt drain stamina
glossy latch
From what I recall the 4* to look out for the most are Xiangling, Xingque and Benny
Couple others are good but those are actually top tier and outperform 5*
Kuki is good too but she specifically requires hyperbloom
And youre not gonna have dendro drivers for a while
runic ether
dendro mc
glossy latch
Yeah but Guy would have to go out of his way to go to Sumeru early
mortal iron
Dendro mc and collei can fill in the dendro section well
mortal iron
Yeah it's pretty close to liyue
runic ether
i would do diluc kaeya xiangling and lynette to start. could replace diluc with freminet but diluc's numbers are better overall.
then you can do a variety
mortal iron
Lynette i will always root for mostly coz traversal
mortal iron
As a unit im like eh on, but having a skill that can run far without stamina drainage can make travelling faaar better
Especially in later areas of the game where it's a slog
runic ether
lynette is perfectly usable
not the best anemo but thats hard to be when sucrose and kazuha exist
mortal iron
Yeah, shes completely fine, just like eh on the team comps
Early game so it doesnt matter that much
runic ether
not particularly eh either
shes good
just not top tier and for a lot of players who already have kazuha and/or sucrose built
shes redundant
however if u dont have either
she finds herself in a good spot for an account
mortal iron
Yeah i think coz i have both i just say eh
But without them, shes good
Also the free 4* this month is...gorou...hmm
Makes mono geo a thing with
Geo mc, ningguang, noelle
runic ether
ehhh i guess that could work
slow raft
i would do diluc kaeya xiangling and lynette to start. could replace diluc with ...
Cant level lynette rn cause im not in that area yet sadly
runic ether
ah they added a teleport waypoint to get to fontaine quickly
so that u arent locked out of her stuff
mortal iron
Mono geo im not a fan of
long tree
As an aside I would really recommend going to each region early
mortal iron
But there is that stupid dog in inazuma that would be easier with mono geo without zhongli
I dont know if you can get to inazuma early, i know fontaine, liyue and sumeru you can
long tree
Events take place in certain regions and you don’t want to have to make the trek when you could just be playing the event
runic ether
mono geo's case is that for noelle, she really wants furina
ningguang noelle geo mc + furina works
but it really really likes furina
long tree
I dont know if you can get to inazuma early, i know fontaine, liyue and sumeru y...
I mean you can but it’s a lot of effort
runic ether
noelle also doesnt need zhongli at all
mortal iron
Yeah i meant for the doggo boss, like the geo pillar things you gotta destroy, zhongli makes it waay faster in a regular team
runic ether
ah sure
ah right gorou needs the dog
i was gonna say neither ningguang or noelle need to farm the dog
and then i remembered gorou
long tree
The new centaur statue boss is so much easier with zhongers
runic ether
the new centaur boss is just easy
mortal iron
Oh right centaur thing
runic ether
its got a really cool design and it attacks a lot but it is also fodder for arle
mortal iron
Yeah it's weirdly weaker than previous bosses
I guess they knew it was just a stepping stone for dad
runic ether
oh right guy is going to pull for arle so actually his team options are way more open
team 1: arle
team 2: diluc
diluc kaeya lynette xiangling should work well
arle just by herself with some skill expression also works well
mortal iron
Also iirc noelle shields
So for arle, for some protection, i would put noelle as a shielder
It's not ideal but it's some protection coz she cant be healed besides her burst
slow raft
Yeah i was gonna put atleast a shielder in, since i have massive skill issue
mortal iron
Oh
My b, i just assumed it was a team shield, coz i dont really think guy has a shielder then
runic ether
it does work while someone else is active
but
it is a really really weak team outside of herself
mortal iron
Yeah, i just couldnt think of another defensive option with guy's roster
I guess geo mc? And use the crystalise shield, i know they dont make a shield
runic ether
there really isnt one yet
hopefully as he pulls he gets layla or diona
thoma works with father too
mortal iron
Yeah mostly trying to find a stand in for now no matter how weak
runic ether
kirara in theory but her dendro app means u would get burning and thus end up a bit screwed
mortal iron
Yeah i dont suggest dendro near arlecchino, not for a while atleast
mortal iron
Yeah i just ignore burgeon as a reaction coz burning can happen accidentally and that is painful
Plus adding a character that cant heal except their burst so it's really risky
runic ether
yeah its more of a developed account type team for her
at minimum needs xingqiu
nahida
arle
and the last slot could be fischl?
could be yelan
could be bennett
mortal iron
I prefer xq for any burgeon team for damage reduction incase burning happens
mortal iron
Yeah, it's kinda why i ignore it, since hyperbloom exist and is way safer and is easier to build
Kinda weird they never bothered making a 5* for burgeon specifically
runic ether
saving it for natlan im sure
there are still a lot of unexplored team options
electro-charge still doesnt has a full enabler
neither does shatter
burning recently got an artifact set but no direct support for it yet
mortal iron
I find it weird coz 3.X was a major catchup version for dendro, we got a 5* for each dendro reaction besides burgeon
runic ether
ehh
we still dont really have a true dedicated hyperbloom character
5 stars do work with hbloom of course
but theres no 5 star or 4 star that actually takes full advantage of hyperbloom
mortal iron
Ok hbloom is a weird case coz...i mean most of them could hbloom
Only exception is like...nilou, (technically you could but like why would you)
runic ether
you can hbloom if you can get 1k em
and have electro or dendro
(or hydro)
but yeah
theres no actually dedicated hbloomer
or burgeoner
which means we havent seen either team hit the peak of their power
mortal iron
Also i know alhaitham is made for quicken...but i have never used him for quicken, i just use him in hbloom
runic ether
spread
but yeah
his spread dps is good
i used to use him a lot in spread cus i only had 2 hydros yelan and xq
furina saved my hydro situation
cus vaping with mona was fun for a while
mortal iron
I just used hbloom alhaitham coz, xq damage reduction, and kuki healing
runic ether
but there was a clear peak
mortal iron
Neuv saved my hydro situation coz he just is one team
Neuv is so stupidly op it's not even funny
Funnily enough i have a c1 furina that i rarely use
I dont like playing her, except if im speedrunning with neuv
runic ether
i skipped neuv cus i just find his gameplay boring
mortal iron
Completely fair, he just hoses figuratively and literally anything that dont have hydro immunity
runic ether
but it is funny that we finally got the op starter trio
neuv (blastoise), arle (charizard), haitham (venusaur)
surely some janky burgeon team between the trio can clear abyss
mortal iron
Really want a burgeon guy/gal that just makes burgeon not feel like worse hyperbloom
Like how nilou is the only good bloom team
runic ether
we just need a burgeon trigger that truly takes advantage of the aoe of burgeon
hyperbloom is super single target focused
mortal iron
Also to lessen burning, i wanna not try to die when playing
runic ether
so extrapolate on both of these with a carry for both
i actually think a burgeon trigger would be an on-field healer
a pyro on-field healer
mortal iron
I was really banking on the fact that dehya would be a burgeon unit back in 3.X
runic ether
this would make it easy to run furina nahida this pyro
mortal iron
Oh boy how wrong i was
mortal iron
Like the pattern was dendro based characters excluding wanderer
Then it's just this random defensive kit that's worse than shielders then gets shoved into standard banner
runic ether
at least she found a niche with neuv and burnmelt and now arle
at c0 through 5 at least
runic ether
there are characters like qiqi who have not found a niche yet
even with furina
qiqi is not great
mortal iron
True but i dont like qiqi as a character but i do like dehya
So it bothers me more that way
runic ether
true!
mortal iron
Yeah dehyas cons are weirdly dps based
She feels awful as a dps and i dont mean numbers
runic ether
its fixed at c6
c6 dehya is basically on-par with a c1 hu tao for dps numbers
so shes still squarely below the others at c6 but she has the additional utility of having her defensive optiosn
for whatever thats worth
mortal iron
Her burst is not just worthless, it's automated
You dont even get to control the punches, just like the speed of them i guess if you mash the attack button
Just alot of design decisions that is just baffling
mortal iron
That said...shes the only standard 5 star cons i want
Oh also speaking of neuv, he gave me a reason to build lisa
Gonna make a reaction soup
Neuv, dehya, lisa, furina
i know dehya pyro app is slow as crap
dull bridge
slow raft
... you are not on this banner
Ill take it ig, i just wanted to do the rolls til the guaranteed 5 star anyways
Also got a few skins (not pictured: dorothy, i clicked the screen away too fast)
old galleon
earth kolulu and dark chloe are the new units, rate up grand is rei
haven't checked the units' kits yet
freebies gave me nothing
long tree
Got kolulu
old galleon
she looked decent
btw if you haven't done the fgo survey yet, you have like
half an hour
doing it will yield 4 summon tickets whenever they get distributed
long tree
Done
mystic python
Yea sorry I was keeping them all for myself
runic ether
will u ever actually use them
mystic python
No I keep pulling 5 star spears lmao
runic ether
i keep pulling swords myself
runic ether
i dont mind that i ended up getting thundering fury but i really would have liked engulfing lightning
my raiden is ready for it
mystic python
Yea I got 2 TPulses I don't use just chilling
Surely they'll make another infused bow normal attacker one day
runic ether
im on the hunt for a circlet
thats literally the last piece i can really improve a lot. i have no hope for a goblet
eventually sure but the circlet is the last bit
mystic python
Ye same a circlet would be so nice, have been strongboxing Emblem for an age and farmed it for another age but it's rough
runic ether
my arle/clorinde farming is going super poor for the whimsey set
but the burning set? arleady hit a near 40 cv sands
mystic python
runic ether
and i have a few promising flowers + circlet
mystic python
Can't relate I got trash on both sets so far
Besides an ER sands which I haven't rolled because it might be unusable on the set
runic ether
off-piece surely
i know i should have kept it but my standards have been ruined
i got a 4 liner with both crit subs on a hydro goblet on the burning set and i foddered it bc it leveled em 2x
mystic python
Ye could still be 35cv with 60 EM at that point
runic ether
i do kinda wanna just not touch the domain but it is gonna be great on clorinde and i will absolutely make the mistake of pulling
surely it also buffs my burnmelt ganyu too
mystic python
My Glad pieces suck so surely it doesn't take too long to upgrade Arle through that domain
And yea the burnmelt Ganyu teams that are totally playable
runic ether
pyro archon will save us
mystic python
Still no Dehya so I can't even try :(
runic ether
oh
i do have dehya
its fun
it just has plenty of abyss cycles that it isnt good enough bc of dehya not having perfect uptime for ganyu
id do it with wrio if i had him
mystic python
2 circles, wonky uptime, sucks in multiwave and Nahida needs like 160 ER or smth in worst case
runic ether
but against bosses? it cooks
it just wont work well this specific boss wave bc the last boss is a piece of shit for ganyu even tho bennett and dehya can shred it
i did solo it with arle so it cant actually be that bad if i turbo clear it with dehya plunge
mystic python
It's been nice only because Zhongli exists, for non-burnmelt
Ye
Bennett has a fast plunge animation as well
mystic python
So random that he even has it
For Albedo it made sense since they tried to sell the stand on flower -> plunge thing
runic ether
bennett just had it for whatever
mystic python
Damn even Keqing doesn't have it
runic ether
i know she didnt
cus i used her a ton for overworld explo
i remember plunging on her to speed up some descents in liyue
mystic python
Ye just weird they put it on one char that enables their own plunges but not another
runic ether
i really shouldnt pull clorinde
on the otherhand lol
shes just so cool
id literally have no use for her + i already struggle with electro goblets
mystic python
I got enough electro already so I def shouldn't
runic ether
im only missing cyno and razor
mystic python
Kinda wanted the psychopathic melusine but the kit doesn't seem that fun
runic ether
yeah
shes weird
alternate kokomi
sethos seems cool but same issue
i have too many electros already
im still pulling clorinde
i cant think of any other character i wanna pull anyways until pyro archon
but we know nothing of pyro archon
c2 yelan but like
eh
mystic python
Ye circle-less Bennett waiting room
runic ether
not as important atm
mystic python
Either the archon or the same-element regional subordinate hopefully
runic ether
ill pull capitano and/or columbina
but thatd be deep in natlan
anyways
if they are playable
maybe not even natlan
maybe i go for c2 nahida?
mystic python
I'm worried Capitano's gonna be either 5'9 or dead
runic ether
at this point i just wanna pick up 5 star weapons for options
runic ether
I'm worried Capitano's gonna be either 5'9 or dead
believe in the goat
hes him he will dual wield claymores
mystic python
More options > cons that just give damage imo, clearing abyss is easy enough at endgame
mystic python
Yea they might be pulling a HSR where you want coverage for everything
runic ether
yeah thats kind of what it is for it
and it makes sense
it makes no sense for them to get ppl to go up in investment on characters
when ppl who will c6 and whale will do so already
but how do they get ppl who have stocked accounts to keep pulling?
well introduce a game mode where u need to run 4 electro on-fielders
and teams for each
mystic python
Half ur characters are banned, glhf
runic ether
fischl beidou sucrose
keqing lisa lynette
raiden sara kazu
clorinde bennett chev
surely
i have enough investment in each that i dont think i will need a real 3rd character on each team
idr if it was pyro electro anemo for this 1st rot of imaginary theater or not but i will for sure
at least with this time, will easily have every character necessary
mystic python
Ez coverage on the electro front but it def seems easier using multiple elements
runic ether
yeah for sure
i think it is pyro so mono electro will def be a thing, chev overload if it is pyro, taser if its hydro, and then raiden hyper, and then u have another carry or 2 for the rest
thankfully they have given us anemo
actually idk if they can, not give us anemo for some
sadly i dont think we will see geo in imaginary theater for a while
since players only have geo mc and noelle, and gorou recently
mystic python
They could include it but with multiple trial chars or 4 total elements maybe
runic ether
tho i have a theory that natlan will actually be the nation of geo
a sin
*as in
we will see a lot more geo characters
natlan is giving me geo and dendro vibes for the majority of characters released
mystic python
They've tried to make them interesting already with Navia but yea, could always be cooking more stuff
They gotta make it better than yellow physical somehow
runic ether
they seem to want to lean on constructs with chiori
same w dendro we havent really gotten a true burgeon or hyperbloom carry
or a burning enabler
mystic python
o yea that burning set has to have been made for someone
runic ether
burnmelt cant be the only reason it exists
torn harbor
i know exactly where i lost the last 20k points to hit an even 40k/40k too
Nice
I should get xueyi built and I could probably hit the full 80k here
runic ether
i would hope the pyro archon is more of a generalist
i dont see how the pyro archon is a full dps though
thats such a hard field to compete in
and we really need more pyro support/healers
torn harbor
The monkey paw curls
The pyro archon is a generalist but the worst one to be released
mystic python
Dehya 2
torn harbor
Also I'm just realizing that since I'm getting Robin I will have every premium harmony character
torn harbor
And I have an e3 bronya
mystic python
I was gonna do that because supports are broken but I've realised I have no place for Robin on any teams
torn harbor
I have one
It's on my fua team
runic ether
yeah i know shes fua exodia piece #4 but shes really not so much better for me over ruan mei in that team
mystic python
Think in the previous Pure Fiction I used 5 harmony chars
torn harbor
What's really cool is watching 1k damage follow ups do 30k+ each from the ult
With full ults fua can get like 13 fuas from one singular turn for each member so that's very cool
runic ether
i def messed up with the acheron teams on both of those halves
but i knew they were getting at least the 20k points
im at a similar loss with hsr on pulls
i really dont need anything anymore
im gonna pursue eidolons and some missing lc
might grab huohuo eventually
and ill grab the rumored 5 star nihility healer thats made for acheron
gonna try for topaz lc at some point
but thats kinda it
torn harbor
I just need to build xueyi for 40k/40k
runic ether
might do fu xuan and aventurine e1 eventually too
mystic python
Ignore the 36k in PF4 Clara died midway through the 2nd cycle because I forgot her LC was on Xueyi
runic ether
oh
shit
i gotta move lcs around again
lol
jingliu's cone is on clara rn
it was just a stat stick
mystic python
Yea I was wondering why Clara died so fast but she'd already done work so I just left it
runic ether
i put aventurine with her instead of fu xuan like i intended to
torn harbor
Ended up realizing that extrapolation was just better even with only 1 major fua unit
mystic python
Ye perma ults are broken
Who knew acting out of turn would be strong in a turn based game
torn harbor
Pretty sure I could get 40k on the last one if I had a built xueyi
mystic python
Been playing Xueyi a bit and she feels very hit or miss
So reliant on hitting weakness to be strong
runic ether
yeah i understand her being good in theory
but
having himeko and herta i never felt the need
mystic python
She's nice in the current MoC 12 first half
runic ether
i can see it yeah
mystic python
But yea never really an upgrade to anything else you could run
And if there's even 1 boss that's not quant weak her damage just halves or worse
runic ether
yeah i remember that experience
even with silver wolf
i tried making her work
but my qq is just so much more invested
never felt like i got anywhere with xueyi
runic ether
def feels worse than in genshin
they havent really figured out quite how to make some characters in hsr feel viable in different game modes yet
the new single target challenge mode has potential
might dust off the old sushang for it
mystic python
Xueyi's kit just isn't quite there
Feels like if she had even more eidolons eventually she'd be actually solid
Like if the follow-up would count toward her stacks
runic ether
her e1 and e4 iirc? could have been baked into her base kit
and given a new e1 and e4
yeah okay
mystic python
Pls just remove this line I'm begging
runic ether
so her e1 could have been a part of her a4 trace and her e4 could have been added to her a2 trace
mystic python
And maybe add 1 stack gained by her skill by default or something
runic ether
e2 becomes the new e1 -> new e2 removes the fua not adding karma stacks
e6 becomes the new e4, and then her new e6 would be more stats maybe some speed up for getting breaks
*action forward
mystic python
Ye the kit's so nice up until most of it feeling dead when you're against non-quant weak
runic ether
another possible fix? have her eidolons regen a lot more energy and then let her ult shred break bars harder
i know it damages non-quantum break bars but it rarely feels like it actually does that
mystic python
o yea Ruan Mei is huge for that
You kinda want Sparkle, Tingyun and Ruan Mei all at once
runic ether
yeah
but then u have no sustain
even with all that she still cant 0 cycle comfortably
so she feels super underwhelming
mystic python
Replace Sparkle or Tingyun's dmg% buffs with break efficiency and it's solved
runic ether
needing 3 premium supports for your e6 4 star to still clear worse than qingque is still kinda crazy
ah well tho at least it is possible
mystic python
runic ether
i think ive seen arlan and misha clear content
misha for sure
idr if i have seen arlan clips
nvm found one
mystic python
Xueyi's def not bad as far as 4 star DPS go, just sucks she drops off a cliff once she runs into something that's not her ideal scenario of all quant weak enemies
mystic python
Ye the ult feels so sick to use every time
torn harbor
Been playing Xueyi a bit and she feels very hit or miss
I want the xueyi for the team as it means hitting more followups for more pf procs
It's very specifically due to how the PF is right now
mystic python
o yea with a double DPS team for PF it'll be a bit more fine
torn harbor
I have a Seele for the PF if you didn't notice
mystic python
The main issue is just when she's the solo carry and her damage drops off a cliff because the enemy doesn't have quant weakness for her stacks anymore
No Clara?
torn harbor
Like I could def replace Seele with a built xueyi and hit 40k
torn harbor
No Clara?
Tried her didn't work out since she was too enemy turn reliant
Only got about as far as Seele team did
Only with 2 mobs and the boss left instead of 1 mob and the boss
mystic python
Fair enough, she put in pretty good work on my end (before she tragically passed less than half way in)
rigid pilot
idle grove
slow raft
Twitter
slow raft
Read through bennets kit and at first i thought "aight, but this doesnt really seem like anything special"
Then i got to the constellations
Im still not used to gachas locking so much power behind dupes ig
mortal iron
yeah, tbh benny's c1 is the only one that matters
slow raft
C6 also seems p decent, no?
mortal iron
it's weird coz
it turns off a team comp for eula so if you plan to play her dont use it
and it's not that important
since benny is there to just use his burst
most of the time the pyro infusion will not matter
coz the other characters infusion override it like raiden
slow raft
Isnt it like a 15% fire damage increase?