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idle grove
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been so long since I played I forgor

old galleon
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You build depending on the fight you're doing, some resources are in my pin for gbf

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(Gw is covered in them)

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the biggest new thing if you're playing lumi is the m3 gun

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but if you already have a bunch of swords and did your harakhtes and also have either harmonias or harsiesis built, you should be okay

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nm90 is actually relevant now bc it's the easiest mode that drops celestial weapons

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so you'll see some comps for that too, whereas people didn't really care that much about it in comparison before

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【極マグナ】編成解説です
今回は光古戦場の2400万、90Hell、95Hell、150Hell、200Hellについて紹介します

-前回の極マグナ-
■【極マグナ】消えたコロッサス!? 現状の火マグナの理想形を火古戦場想定で紹介します【グラブル】 / [GBF]Fire GW KIWAMI Fire Magna party introduction
https://youtu.be/V1jeEEGXNtQ

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0:00 はじめに
1:15 極マグナを名乗る条件
3:13 極光マグナ 肉集め編成
6:00 極光マグナ 90Hell想定
8:38 極光マグナ 95Hell手動想定
11:29 極光マグナ 95Hellフルオート想定
14:32 極光マグナ 150Hell...

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quwatoro just posted this and it's subtitled, so you can refer to that as well

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as always, make substitutes for what you don't have with what you do

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it's fine if you need to press more buttons or whatever to compensate

slow raft
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the morgan banner is cruel, now that i am so close to 300 pulls saved up

copper steppe
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didn’t do that many pulls but i can relate

old galleon
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actual madlad run

summer hornet
astral drift
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gachafriends, i need recommendations on games with character designs similar to nier reincarnation

honest pawn
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GRANBLUE

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I don't think there is, unfortunately

old galleon
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what does that even look like?

digital marlin
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i feel like Arknights has some characters that would fit the bill for nier reincarnation

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tbh looking at neir reincarnation character designs it feels to simpalstic compared to what any gacha would go for

old galleon
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maybe octopath traveler: champions of the continent?

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you can compare character arts in the various tabs there

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as for granblue, i'm not sure stylistically it's all that similar

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but you can get some nier skins for mc with one of the dlc codes from versus rising, i think

digital marlin
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i feel like when granblue was chosen they did it based on artstyle instead

old galleon
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yeah and i'm saying granblue's art style isn't that similar to what i'm seeing from nier reincarnation

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maybe the older stuff, but not necessarily their more recent art

long tree
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Argor your upgrade omega summons have been a god send thank you

summer hornet
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also shamelessly plugging that I've upgraded my Tiamat to 210

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...Luminiera is still 150, though

old galleon
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ex+ is free now, at least

old galleon
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the auras themselves don't upgrade much before a certain point

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210 upgrades the call's effects and damage, 220 makes the base cooldown 6 turns instead of 9

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only at 230+ do you see upgrades to the aura

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210 does give them a sub aura, but that's irrelevant for the support summon since it uses the main aura

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the real issue is that if you're low on sand, the 230+ uncaps all need 1 sand each for 3 total

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which tbf is lower than we expected, we were totally expecting it to take 5 sands per summon

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but that'll still be 18 sands total for just the omega summons

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then you consider other stuff that needs sands (esp evoker uncaps)

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so i guess what i'm saying is, take advantage of content that gives guaranteed sands

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this is what i've settled on for ex+

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don't think i can do any of the normal attacking comps without pressing buttons so this is the best i've got

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oh that estimated damage should be a bit lower since i accidentally had 5* lumi in there instead of huanglong

summer hornet
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we're both doing a luci raid right now lmao

old galleon
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thanks for the free mats

summer hornet
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I mean kinda yeah lol

old galleon
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lucilius doesn't need blue chest and he was almost dead anyway so bubs was all that was required

summer hornet
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so it turns out I'm still missing a good 10 gale rocks for seofon's uncap

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all roads lead back to ewiyar

old galleon
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sounds like a job for ewiyar

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and she's on bonus drops, so

summer hornet
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True!

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with a little grinding I can finish tonight, or with a little luck I can finish tomorrow

old galleon
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probably prefer finishing tonight so raids don't die to gw

summer hornet
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oh ugh, gw starts tonight?

old galleon
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yessir

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about 10 and a half hours from now

summer hornet
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sighhhhhh

long tree
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How does one get light quartz

old galleon
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reduce all those lumi dupes you get from your daily hosts, reduce sr light summons (make sure to save some mlb carbuncles just in case), buy them from pendant shop (limited per month), run your daily non-raid lu woh hosts

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i don't recommend buying htem with cerulean stones or with dread barrage currency

long tree
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Ty

summer hornet
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Aeri, are you still in the same crew as before?

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also why are the rates for gale rocks so LOW

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you literally have one (1) shot at getting them unless you host

long tree
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Welp I got all the edgy boi materials but I don't think I'm gonna get 500 light quartz in 10 hours

idle grove
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currently grinding master levels rn

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yeah I am still in it

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holy shit I hate finding fate episodes why is there no way to search for characters

slow raft
old galleon
idle grove
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yeah doesn't help when you still have like 25 pages of them

old galleon
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how do you have 25 pages of ssr fate episodes?

idle grove
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:)

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because I only do them for characters I use

old galleon
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anyway, it goes roughly in order of character release date iirc, ignoring special ones like eternals and evokers

idle grove
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mm

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might give this gw a miss

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my light can't even do 70% of the hp right now

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not sure that's salvageable in such a short time

old galleon
idle grove
old galleon
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if you have the star, find room to put it somewhere in your summons

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also since you're running a charge attack comp, see if you can get any copies of harakhte to drop from horus

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each one is 400k ca supp

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it caps at 1m so you only really need 2 at most

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i'm assuming you don't have beelzebub

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what characters do you have access to?

idle grove
old galleon
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slot y narm somewhere

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if you need her end of turn shit, in the front; otherwise, in the back

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uncap s seruel and use him too

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if you find you can do enough ca damage without relic buster limit burst to enhance specs while setting up charge bars, you can also run ferry front and use a support huanglong; combined with crew battery you'd start at 100% and could still run whatever main summon instead of needing your own huanglong

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also i spy a yuni, which also means you have harmonia

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for the skill nukes both y narm and s seruel have, harmonia will be of great assistance for its unconditional 50k supp

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you can easily slot out one of the lower sl lumi swords for it

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i also see s yurius but i need to check his kit first

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okay i'm not sure you can make use of s yurius end of turn without pressing some buttons for debuffs

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if you don't mind pressing buttons or if you have a way to inflict 5+ debuffs, then it'd be fine

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vira has a big skill nuke with her upgraded ca, although it's only one hit, so it won't benefit as much from supp, but it should still be valuable

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so for your rb mc i'm thinking something like rb/s seruel/vira/y narmaya front (seruel in the 2 since his ca has a light atk buff on it for your other two characters to use)

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silva in the back

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and since i don't see grand sandy, your 6th can probably just be whoever

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and make sure to slot harmonia somewhere over your worst copy of the lumi sword

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s seruel is non-negotiable, and y narm somewhere in the comp, even in the back, is also non-negotiable

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otherwise, if you don't want to use vira, you can still run nicholas/sara/lyria, although i do think vira will probably still be the best of those four

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i'm not sure your grid is strong enough to run a ferry/single huanglong comp, but if you were to, then probably something like mc in your best class for the job/s seruel/ferry/y narm/silva/filler, lumi x huanglong summons

it's possible that would take it down to 0 buttons, although again, i'm not sure your grid as yet is strong enough for that

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but 2 button rb setup is also fine

summer hornet
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Did you not get the ultima weapon from this year's anniversary event, Aeri?

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You can replace your seraphic weapon with that

idle grove
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I have barely been playing at all, nevermind any events

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gacha games have been on the backburner a lot recently

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and yeah my grid most likely can't sustain a 0b comp sadly

old galleon
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which is fine, rb 2 buttons is totally acceptable

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try the stuff i recommended and see if that works

slow raft
idle grove
idle grove
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as an upside though

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I can solo horus

old galleon
old galleon
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lemme go check it again

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so let's see... i assume you replaced your worst lumi sword with harmonia already

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if you managed to get a harakhte from your horus runs, you can replace your now-worst lumi sword with it

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it won't help as much with raw damage for your skill nukes, but an extra 400k per ca is significant at this stage

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if you had bubs, this would be a lto easier; you'd just put him as your main summon and add his call as a third button, then it'd be trivial

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but that's not in your control

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hmm

old galleon
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do you happen to have a copy of mittron's bow?

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it'd be better if it were 4*, but if not, that's also fine

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you can probably get more damage out of it by slotting a copy over your now-worst lumi sword since it'd add a new modifier to the grid

idle grove
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uhh let me check

idle grove
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yeah I have some

late canopy
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Blue Archive anime episode 1 has just aired

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Waiting for the episode to come up onto Ani-one in about half an hour

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Mucho exciting

copper steppe
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oh damn

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thats nice

old galleon
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first random revenant drop of gw

old galleon
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mfw jp hardcore players getting more honors in 6 hours than i'll get this entire gw

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i only have about 1700 meat in almost 2 hours

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and htat's factoring in -125 from 25 runs of nm90

slow raft
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well it seems that by raising the equilibrium level i may have fucked myself over becuase story bosses just walk over my entire team

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how do i go down a stage again?

old galleon
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i don't believe you do in hsr

slow raft
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i was told i could by this chat

old galleon
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i know fights that use trailblaze power can be fought at lower levels, but i don't think there's such an option for main story contnet

slow raft
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ig i shouldnt trust people on the internet 😔

old galleon
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at least, if there is a way to do it, i'm not aware of it

runic ether
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i swear u can lowet equilibrium

slow raft
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well if you cant, ill just have to farm for a few weeks before i can do quests

runic ether
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holy shit apparently this is a genshin-only feature that they never implemented into hsr im sorry

slow raft
runic ether
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they took the exact same system and then never gave options to change it for hsr unlike genshin

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which story boss is giving u a hard time rn?

slow raft
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Starcrusher Swarm King: Skaracabaz and ||Sam|| are the two where im at 5+ tries with items and different team setups (switching out tingqun for tank because all my other units get oneshot/ switchung out blade for a dps that the enemy is weak against)
but basically all other quests im also stuck on for similar reasons

runic ether
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ah yeah those 2 in particular are tough without set up

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swarm king is particularly rude

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hmm have u tried 2x sustains?

glossy latch
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||Sam|| is a bitch tbh

slow raft
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ive tried 1 tank and 1 sustain, but i guess i could try replace bronya with bailu

runic ether
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against ||sam|| its more sus but vs swarm king it can pull u up

slow raft
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problem is more so that phase two just inta kills my fu xuan and if i try to replace her with trailblazer, it kills the other 3 in my team

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but i guess one revive might be able to pull me trough

old galleon
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this is after around 2 hours

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if i actually try, i can probably get us into tier c

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but we'll see

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what's 17.5b over 30?

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over 10 is around 1.75b, so that over 3 should be around 300.something m?

runic ether
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if not, fire trailblazer + fu xuan may be just enough to survive swarm king

old galleon
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which means the current top ranked crew's members are averaging 300something m honors per member right now

copper steppe
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fgobros, you get taisui by clearing the event right

old galleon
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i haven't actually started sea monster to know for sure but taisui should be acquired through some part of event progression

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i'll be running that later lol

slow raft
copper steppe
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on another note on my quest to morgan i have gotten a lot of event ces

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queen of winter please bless my summons

old galleon
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that's more like 580m

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this is what you get for doing bad mental math

slow raft
summer hornet
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Way to go, Guy

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Sorry about the difficulty thing, I've definitely experienced that before

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This FGO event is so cool

runic ether
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little guys

old galleon
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yeah i'll make sure to go do that later

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don't want to miss taisui and the ce is decent gauntlet filler

slow raft
copper steppe
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we are arming the goobers to war

old galleon
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do they have guns

copper steppe
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regretably not

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you can make them roman

summer hornet
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You had the option for pile drivers, no?

copper steppe
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yes, and as amakusa described, “They are very cool”

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which i belive is a valid point

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also make them genji

digital marlin
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We need con plushies

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They're so dam adorable

copper steppe
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melt being a mom was something unexpected yet enjoyable

slow raft
copper steppe
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also moriarty asking for gil to pretty please see vimana was very funny

summer hornet
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Okay, so ascension 2 mats are just a little more strenuous

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I can't even access Inazuma to get this seaweed stuff Kazuha wants

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I also understand the function of the minibosses now

runic ether
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yeah u need to get through liyue's story before you can get to inazuma

long tree
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The boss mats are like in honkai they're never a big deal to get, the open world ones can be a pain to pick up with how spread out/limited in number they can be but there's usually enough to get them up to level 70/80

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The rest you can just hop on coop for, so long as it's not like the most recent character most people are fine if you yoink a few flowers

summer hornet
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oh right, Genshin has co-op

slow raft
runic ether
summer hornet
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will do!

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Wait, do you have to unlock areas in your world first?

runic ether
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p sure you will need to so you can warp to said areas

late canopy
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I think Regi will not be able to join since world levels are too far apart

old galleon
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with the inconsistency my huanglong friends are showing up i'm debating just going back to lumi credo and trying to get some more guns

summer hornet
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urgggg

old galleon
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raids aren't as dead as i expected them to be lol

runic ether
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i forgot im almost ar60

late canopy
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Im combing through my brain trying to think if there's any way to get Kazuha's stuff before reaching Inazuma

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I briefly thought of the teapot and buying the seeds but you need to finish Liyue anyways to get the teapot so might as well go to Inazuma at that point

runic ether
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yea lol

late canopy
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Wait Im going to be sure @summer hornet

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Is your Kazzy lvl 20 right now or lvl 40

summer hornet
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level 40

late canopy
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Ok

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Then there's no getting around needing to go to Inazuma

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Cuz I just realized that even if there was some way to get the seaweed there's still maguu kenki

summer hornet
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RIP

late canopy
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Who is in Inazuma

summer hornet
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gyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhh

late canopy
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The boss who drops Kazzy's things to lvl past 40

runic ether
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maguu kenki is such a cool design

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just wish they stop throwing 3 of them into abyss rotations every once in a while in formatations that wont let them group

late canopy
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Angery bois

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There was one abyss cycle where I don't remember what happened but the three little kenkis felt substatially easier than a previous bigger one

summer hornet
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Guess it's just extra incentive to continue the main story, lol

late canopy
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Oh also right! Regi are you on NA?

summer hornet
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I am!

late canopy
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If you are I can add you on my alt

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I don't play it much anymore so if you ever need anything extra you can come suck it dry of literally anything

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Or I can help with things

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633558390

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Here thing!

summer hornet
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grazie! Lemme just finish this shooting game and I'll add you

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alright, I'll add you now. Up to the intro of Liyue; just met Childe- his lines don't feel great, but it's definitely interesting to put him right after we met Signora in the worst way possible

late canopy
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Added!

summer hornet
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man the only person I've seen who doesn't have Raiden Mei is a person who explicitly only put guys on their support

late canopy
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I made this alt originally for two reasons

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  1. To pull for things I was kind of interested in but didn't want to spend primos on on my main
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  1. To try speedrunning to Inazuma in a week after I start the game lol
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I suceeded

summer hornet
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👀

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okay that's impressive

late canopy
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It was very close

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I think I did it halfway through the 6th day

summer hornet
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the overworld exploration seems like the hardest part tbh

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the actual combat hasn't been too tough so far, aside from getting element reactions at the right time

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It's honestly fun

late canopy
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Having a good auto attacker not reliant on cooldowns and especially not bursts I've found helps a ton with smooth exploration

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Which is why Yanfei was my alt MVP

summer hornet
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oh you mean an elemental basic attack, like Lisa?

late canopy
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Sort of

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Meaning the main source of their damage can be called upon at anytime

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Like for example Xiangling mainly gets her dmg from her burst with the spinning fire tornado

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Imagine how annoying it would be if you ran into one guy with her and need to use her burst to kill him

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And then you run into another guy two minutes later and it's not charged anymore

summer hornet
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I have already experienced that with Kaeya lol

late canopy
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Yeah so I like having one guy at least who can jump from group to group without needing a burst

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Makes cleaning out generic mobs much comfier

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Doubly so if they're small enough to not need your heavyiest hitters who rely on their bursts anyways

runic ether
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she lost an m

summer hornet
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I can't tell if you're joking or not

runic ether
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im not

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its raiden ei

slow raft
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need to redo the entire argenti quest cause my team cant do it with the team i chose

summer hornet
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The one where you fight Argenti?

slow raft
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yea

summer hornet
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I know that sounds redundant but I wanted to be sure

old galleon
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honor update: currently on 67m with over 7k meat

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crew as a whole is at 72.5m

summer hornet
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Assuming this is still your roster

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Maybe a mono-ice setup could work? Gepard, March, Pela, Yanqing

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Could swap March out for Hanya or Gallagher, mayhaps

slow raft
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then what do i do about the statues that arent ice weak?

summer hornet
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Schist, yeah

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What team were you using originally?

slow raft
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my standard fu xuan, lynx, bronya team and then sushang as a dps

summer hornet
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(For the record, you don't need to complete this quest for anything other than completion's sake btw- nothing's locked behind it)

slow raft
summer hornet
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Ahhh... Understandable

slow raft
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and searching for quest on a difficulty that i can actually complete

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i switched to trailblazer fire, lynx, pela and sushang

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no clue how well theyll handle the true stings that i also have to beat but oh well

summer hornet
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Pretty sure I was able to swap units between fights but I'm not sure

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One thing at a time tho

slow raft
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well im not

summer hornet
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Sumanai

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Tbf, as long as you kill Argenti you should clear the fights

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Not a great plus, but it is a plus

slow raft
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i am curretnly getting dogged by 5 true stings, who can kill any one of my units excet for trailblazer with 3 consequtive attacks

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just have to prayge for rng

summer hornet
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Oh so the problem isn't Argenti, it's the true stings?

slow raft
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no the problem is both of them

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the true stings werent a problem with the other team but the other team jobbed to argenti

summer hornet
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Okay I'm kinda grasping at straws

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How good is your Blade?

slow raft
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but i was able to struggle my way through thanks to items

summer hornet
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Oh

slow raft
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thank god theres a limit to the amount of enemies

slow raft
runic ether
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real

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i have an hp orb pela with heavy investment into hp stats and shes still frail as fuck

slow raft
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all of that for a drop of jades

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i am now at 70 rolls since my last 5 star

old galleon
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meat count is at 8k now, which i think is the hardest i've ever gone in prelims

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honors aren't as high bc no strike time yet

slow raft
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double sustain was also the way to beat ||sam|| btw

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well that and the consumable that just increases your damage by 40 percent, that one was also very helpful

versed pawn
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Like optimally u have like a hp/der orb and a hp/def chest piece 57 Ehr isn't too hard to come by via substats

old galleon
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gw update: meat count is over 9,000

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grrr

long tree
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Finally have the monstat statue of the seven done

old galleon
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alrighty i think i'm calling it for now

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crew's at 97.8m honors, which should be more than enough to get into finals

old galleon
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apparently i'm only 18k tokens off of 44 boxes already

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by my estimate i have enough for 35 boxes

honest pawn
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eh, I've got some left over Enkephalin, might as well do some Canto 4 on my phone

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Wow! Thanks!

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I didn't wanna sleep tonight anyways!

glossy latch
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Ok Sumerus story is kinda intriguing

slow raft
slow raft
runic ether
simple wind
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A truly timeless experience I fondly remember from dragalia

long tree
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Mf people will just pile up and get you killed

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Or the one meant to tank the focused attack stands on top of you so you get hit as well

glossy latch
long tree
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Wrong chat lmao (I sent wrong post)

slow raft
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shes just like me frfr

runic ether
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the fyxestroll garden story quest is solid

slow raft
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weird non-sequitor

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Ig ill do that one next then

summer hornet
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it's kinda long, relatively speaking

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or maybe I've just left it sitting too long and now it's haunting me

runic ether
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is there a 2nd image? i dont have a twitter acc

late canopy
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I checked and there is not

honest pawn
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what the hell is that.

slow raft
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Zenith media

runic ether
copper steppe
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there we go welfare getto

honest pawn
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don't care, back to Canto 4

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oh.

copper steppe
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i need to grind how many cons to get him to np5 AWAAAAAA

slow raft
summer hornet
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Run

old galleon
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there is no salvation

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all that is left is to accept our fate

astral drift
slow raft
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complete tangent but i really hate that fucking fox in limbus company

long tree
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Damn ghallagher has super heals

summer hornet
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Maybe I'm just too used to Bailu

slow raft
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3 pulls and i can do the last 10 for acheron PauseChamp

long tree
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Ayy nice one guy

honest pawn
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I can't stop hyperventilating

slow raft
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its so ideal

honest pawn
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guy

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I kid you not

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I rolled on the banner afterwards

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I got gregor

slow raft
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grats

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ok, ive gotten all the traces for my team, and the levelable ones are at the point where they now need the tier three mats
do i farm decent relics first or do are there any traces i should level further?

honest pawn
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updated tier list

honest pawn
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THE GIF

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I UNDERSTAND THIS NOW

honest pawn
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why is this game so good man

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I can't do this anymore, it's too ideal

runic ether
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i cooked the meme so hard it didnt get to take any of my characters

slow raft
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i dont even know if i have a good lightcone for her lmao

old galleon
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adapt. improvise. overcome.

runic ether
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you do

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you have good night sleep well

slow raft
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That i do

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now i need to farm that fucking bug
pensivecowboybread

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Whats the penalties for reducing the difficulties again?

runic ether
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we found out this game takes a step backwards from genshin and doesnt let u go back

slow raft
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No, echo of war i mean

runic ether
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ah i believe its 1 less boss mat

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and lower chance at a light cone reward

slow raft
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Ah well

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75 is probably much more manageable

slow raft
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Oh right, im 3 rolls away from 300 standard banners rolls

runic ether
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you already have bronya and gepard

slow raft
#

And bailu and yanquing

runic ether
#

yeah the options then become himeko and welt

#

himeko is great for pure fiction

slow raft
#

And clara

runic ether
#

welt is an option to play with acheron

slow raft
runic ether
#

oh right i forgor

slow raft
#

Its a shame that you cant do hard content with support units cause i have a max potential himeko somewhere on my friendslist

runic ether
#

real

#

but thats on purpose ultimately

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or else id be using a friend's e6 jing yuan for every last thing

#

would never need to pull a dps

slow raft
#

Yea yea, gotta get the money somehow, i get it

long tree
#

My reaction logging into battle cats

honest pawn
#

media has never made me feel so happy before

#

Yi Sang is so me

honest pawn
#

YIPPEE

#

now you can build a Sinking team with Boutis

long tree
#

I don't have boutis

honest pawn
#

get to grinding the battle pass then

long tree
#

Whomst do I use on a team

honest pawn
#

my man has REINDEER ISHMAEL

slow raft
#

Depends on the content

#

For general use, you want self suficient units with high/consistent rolls, mostly , probably different damage types/affinities and as many dodges as you can gather

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Idt edgar gregor rolls that well outside of sinking, since his conditionals, however strong they might be, need there to be actually sinking applied

#

Basically all the charge ids are nice for general content since most of them also carry a mini nuke around with them

#

I think just ideal, faust, hong lu, ish and rodion is a winning combination, and id prolly take greg over sinclair still

#

Bl sinclair is just

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Well he needs a bit of mentoring is all

#

Of the top of my head this team should also nicely fuel ishs passive

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As well as fluid sack

#

I dont know the waw ego requirements by heart, but i think youre missing wrath for blind obsession

#

Unless greg supplies it

honest pawn
#

Gregor has 1 Wrath ye

slow raft
#

Had a feeling he migvt

torn harbor
honest pawn
#

Canto 4 has irreversibly changed me

honest pawn
#

Gregor is 1 Lust

#

but Faust has Wrath

old galleon
#

i remembered that this clear exists and nearly 2 years later it's still funny as fuck

#

the game froze on him for like a minute as the whale pondered its life decisions

#

also i'm confident this shit is why most bosses nowadays say fuck you to thunder in particular

#

also our favorite french synth human got announced for a stellar awakening soon and i have her at like 10 shadow, so getting her to 80 is gonna suck

#

same for our favorite biker who's been waiting 3,000 years for his second 4* skill, let alone a 5*

slow raft
slow raft
#

also i was wrong, apparrently.
need another 10 rolls for the 300

long tree
#

All I need to finish my Gallagher is an ER rope

glossy latch
#

Good lord

#

I am gonna farm World 6 so much sicne I cant get a damn decent rope for Clara

#

... wait shit no, I just realised the rope I have is decent, 15% crit rate

#

Im not sure what I can upgrade, the fists?

summer hornet
#

Aventurine prefarming continues

#

Got enough resources for 6/9/9/9, now I just have to get the 42 tier 3 materials required for the final step

#

I'll gladly pause for some SU shenanigans though

slow raft
glossy latch
#

Remind me, which of the standard 5* units in Genshin are decent?

dull bridge
#

uhh

#

what are they

runic ether
#

the best of them are tighnari, keqing, and jean

glossy latch
#

Gotcha

runic ether
#

right behind them are diluc (with xianyun), mona, and dehya

glossy latch
#

Just curious what I should hope for on my next standard 5* pull

#

Ive got Jean and Mona so not those

dull bridge
#

what do you need

runic ether
#

while a character would be fun, getting aquilla favonius would be best lol

#

bennett bis weapon

#

great on jean

glossy latch
#

Is it significantly better than the 5* I already gave to Bennett?

runic ether
#

its like

#

6~ish% better?

#

maybe more in some teams

#

and then skyward pride can be used by xq

#

or jean

glossy latch
#

I think I have Skyward Pride

#

Or something of the heavens

#

Idr

runic ether
#

its the only other 5 star sword iirc

#

out of weapons u also cant go wrong with lost prayers

#

would be super nice for wrio

#

primordial wing jade spear would be great for arle

glossy latch
#

Planning on her signature anyway soo

runic ether
#

fair lol

slow raft
#

we cause a miniscule amount of depression

#

actual 600 damage sinking deluge proc lmao

honest pawn
#

I've heard good things about the new units

#

like I've seen a gloom sinking team that doesn't even run molar ishy

#

oh but that doesn't matter because we're getting

#

MAID RYOSHU

slow raft
#

normal amounts of damage

#

tfw the tank outamages nclair :icant:

summer hornet
#

SEOFON IS FINALLY LEVEL 110

old galleon
#

man how do you tolerate farming ewiyar right now

#

it absolutely fucking sucks to farm pubs right now bc they capped pendings to 1 before they force you to check them

#

which i assume is a measure they take during gw

#

but it still sucks ass

summer hornet
#

I mean I've only been doing my single daily raid of ewiyar lol

#

And for the last few I caved and did the solo quest

old galleon
#

oh right that reminds me i need to go kill more lu woh solo for quartz

slow raft
#

boss i struggled for multiple hours in story?
took me 10 minutes to kill him twice as an echo of war because i was able to use a support lmao

summer hornet
#

That's how it goes!!

#

Phantyllia was the boss that made me regret raising my trailblazer level, but once I had access to friend supports she was pure fodder

old galleon
#

phantyllia didn't feel that bad to me

#

but eh

slow raft
#

thankfully i was still on equillibrium level 5 back when i did phantyllia

#

so it was a breeze

summer hornet
old galleon
#

i don't have dhil

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or kafka

slow raft
#

i thoughed it out thanks to fu xuan, what a based character

old galleon
#

i don't recall the fight being a total breeze but i don't remember having a struggle of epic proportions with her either

slow raft
#

low health? no i think i will regain 90 percent of missing health

summer hornet
#

Fu Xuan really does just make 95% of the game easy mode

#

The amount of streamers I've seen who just skip over boss mechanics because of her is insane

#

(2.0) ||Sam can't burn through her||, (2.1) ||Aventurine can't squash her||

#

I think only enemies that revolve around stealing units, like Svarog's hand and Memory Zone Meme, have any effect

slow raft
#

oh yeah, til that memory zone meme just ends the battle if it steals all 4 of your chars

#

during my sim uni run no less

#

(:

runic ether
#

something unto death can be super bs if u dont have a specific team comp

#

there are some reliable ai manips u can do

#

but its still obnoxious

#

and the dps check would still be brutal

slow raft
#

it was at like 40% hp last phase but i literally could not keep up with the health of the statues anymore

runic ether
#

yeah you need a dual carry comp or a comp with blast/aoe attacks

summer hornet
#

Or nihility

#

Really is just a boss made for Black Swan (and Kafka by proxy)

slow raft
#

speaking of nihility

#

i have been converted

runic ether
honest pawn
#

maybe on the 11th I can actually get to unlocking them

#

but I got spicebush yi sang and slopsuit ishy to work towards

slow raft
#

sinking feels honestly as braindead for md hard as charge

#

which is a tall fucking ask

#

like, i didnt even use baba yaga in this run and yet

honest pawn
#

Sinking's got the benefit of E.G.O. gifts that do things instead of giving you more charge as well

slow raft
#

they build up sinking, just like the charge gifts build up charge nyaruhodo

#

(he didnt get red order, melted spring, skeletal crumbs or artistic sense)

honest pawn
#

this is not ideal

dull bridge
#

@glossy latch u play dot in hsr right

#

is there a good 4* team

#

if I dont have kafka

#

or should I just not bother

runic ether
#

sampo + gui can do a lot of damage if built around but kafka absolutely har carries

#

*hard

#

without kafka, dot will just lack the fat dps

old galleon
#

okay so rather annoyingly, we ended up being like 9m honors off of finals

#

i was convinced i had farmed enough, but i clearly didn't

#

so anyway i have a 27s clear of nm95 on full auto

#

just that lucha strat, except i need mugen's 3 as well

dull bridge
old galleon
#

man these chest drop rates aren't that great

#

only have 10 chests of good fortune so far, out of the 60 cap

#

shouldn't be too hard to get the other 50 tho

dull bridge
#

I have Jingliu, Clara, Acheron. Yanqing

#

i wanna try to build someone else

#

or mabye supports

#

which supports do I build for more dps

runic ether
#

do you have ruan mei?

dull bridge
#

nop :(

runic ether
#

then build asta

#

yukong

#

guinaifen

old galleon
#

in the way too early runner up standings, so far the crew's ranked 53rd

#

top 1k make it to the next finals round

#

which i'm gonna try to do, but won't make any promises

#

i've also used 1.2k meat and only have 16 chests

#

not a big fan of the chest conversion rate on nm95

#

probably gonna have to go back and farm more meat once i get my 50 chests

runic ether
#

we have an in-game dpr calculator now

#

at least kei luna has one how tf

mystic python
#

It's on a private server

runic ether
#

yea im just wondering how since idt it was a thing before

mystic python
#

Ig they just have something reading what the server outputs for the damage numbers, and by the looks of it totals the damage every second and outputs that number

#

Don't know too much about this specifically but it's a reasonable guess to say damage is calculated server-side since you don't do damage when disconnected, and high ping delays damage

#

So it's unlikely people can make this for live servers without potentially running into issues messing with mihoyo's servers

runic ether
#

yeah for live servers it doesnt seem possible

#

but maybe its also not something out of the window for a future update?

#

ive read some huge cope theories that they are going to drop another end-game content grind for genshin soon

#

with the whole build rating + build guide in-game

mystic python
#

o yea mihoyo tracks all sorts of data, so it's def possible on their end

runic ether
#

a qol of a dpr calculator from hoyo would be really useful to let ppl know if they are at a point they can clear abyss or whatever they release

mystic python
#

An actual test dummy would be so nice yea

runic ether
#

im tired of beating up masanori

mystic python
#

Praying every abyss rotation's 12-1-1 isn't cringe when you want to test something

runic ether
#

you get 2 balls into 2 enemies that will ungroup at their earliest convenience and you will like it

mystic python
#

Oh boy, time to test which hits will vape
enemies apply dendro and pyro auras to themselves

runic ether
#

this abyss cycle is just annoying enough but easy enough where i dont mind

mystic python
#

Ye at this point it's less a matter of whether I can clear, but more whether I can play fun teams to do so

#

Faruzan DPS was kinda nice this rot

runic ether
#

real

#

i forgot coppelia has anemo resist but it didnt matter

late canopy
#

Abyss has definitely grown harder as time went on

#

I used to exclusively play weird teams to clear floor 12

#

Like Polearms-only across two teams

#

But the amount of effort needed to use less meta teams now is too much hassle for me

runic ether
#

blame neuvillette

late canopy
#

Even before Neuvi

runic ether
#

nah but fr the bar to clear has gotten higher overall for a while

#

i first really tried abyss back in 3.4

#

after i had finished my yelan

#

did decent iirc

#

33 stars

#

?

#

but then 3.5 and 3.6 and 3.7 was a lot harder

#

thank god i had haitham to carry me

mystic python
#

It kinda capped out at the Wenut tbh, that was the biggest recent spike I felt

runic ether
#

from 3.8 on i was just clearing easily and they decreased the difficulty in 4.0 but its been ramping up again

mystic python
#

Since then every abyss has been Wenut or easier

runic ether
#

my account investment has also increased a lot

#

i can almost 1 cycle wenut

#

i wish it was just a single rot but it takes like 2.5 rots

mystic python
#

I blame Ayaka

#

And Venti ig

#

Every chamber is either freeze-resistant enemies, 3 waves or a boss

runic ether
#

or they freeze

#

but they unfreeze asap

#

like the fatui operatives

mystic python
#

Ye freeze resistance

#

The consecrated beasts have it too

#

Halved freeze time

runic ether
#

ah i thought u meant outright immune

mystic python
#

Ye ig there's that too, altho a bit rarer

#

Hydro phantasm local legends

#

Think we had cryo slimes in 12 at one point as well

long tree
#

The worst shit for me is bringing out nevu and seeing both waves have hydro immune/heavy resist

#

Like damn my artifacts already suck don't need to kick me in the shins too

late canopy
#

I've been paying attention

#

Abyss hasn't hydro res'd on both sides in a very long time

#

There's always at least one where nevui can clean house on

long tree
#

Stage 11 wave 2 iirc

late canopy
#

I know cuz I keep doing it

runic ether
#

neuv can still solo

long tree
#

My nevu hits baby numbers because the artifact gods hate me (skill issue)

runic ether
#

this just means you havent farmed marechausse/golden troupe enough

long tree
#

I farmed him for 3 weeks

#

His artifacts are still shit

#

I have the worst artifact luck

#

So usually I just put on sub par things and then move on to whatever other unit I've gotten

#

My zhongli has my best relics

mystic python
#

Ye I can get that tbh, my Golden Troupe chars are all pretty good but I didn't have a good flower on MH until like a couple weeks ago

long tree
#

For whatever reason they designated all the good relics for zhonger

mystic python
#

And sands still sucks

runic ether
#

im stuck on goblets for all sets overall

#

but i have some pretty baller flowers

#

and feathers

long tree
#

I'm stuck getting EM main stat artifacts for kazoo

#

I have picked up some good xianyun pieces because of it though

mystic python
#

The classic

runic ether
mystic python
#

I farmed the VV domain for 8 full months, have 7 EM sands, 3 EM goblets and 3 Circlets

runic ether
#

1 goblet and 2 sands and none of them above 40 cv is crazy

mystic python
#

They were so rare I kept track of all of them

#

And my Kazuha sands has 2.7 crit rate 0 ER

#

Very cracked

runic ether
#

my kazuha and sucrose are geared to a decent enough level and im fine with that

#

i only optimize for raiden, yae, tao, and haitham

#

xq and yelan get buffed just incidentally

long tree
#

I got fuckin purples slotted in because they're the best I have

runic ether
#

i somehow doubt that

mystic python
#

I think I stopped using my last 4 star artifact about halfway through AR56

long tree
#

Hahaa my existence is pain it takes me a week or two to get relics with the main stat I want regardless of if it's 4 or 5 star

mystic python
#

But tbh I can respect still using some esp. if they're EM

runic ether
#

i still have 4 star artifacts for a full instructors and a full exiles set

mystic python
#

o yea I choose to ignore my 100 locked Inst/Exile pieces

long tree
#

If I want EM, it goes to ATK%, I want ATK% it goes to crit rate, I want crit rate it goes to HP%, I want HP% you guessed it DEF%

#

I spent 20 moons getting my kazuha relics

#

I got 1 EM main stat relic

#

1

mystic python
#

For me if I want any stat it goes ER

#

Which is nice when I want ER I guess

long tree
#

Raiden farming took me 2 months

mystic python
#

Sometimes less nice

long tree
#

I'm not talking about the sub stats I'm talking main stat

mystic python
#

Yea EM mainstats are notorious

#

Since the subs on those usually don't matter, 4 stars are honestly fine

runic ether
#

i have never believed about em mainstat

mystic python
#

You lose like 50 EM

runic ether
#

i got multiple em mainstat pieces and i get a ton ive had a good amount to level and see how they level

mystic python
#

I've gotten a lot on Gilded/Deepwood but VV was not nice to me at all

#

I still don't have an Instructor 4 star EM goblet

#

I've been saving Instructor pieces since like mid 2021

runic ether
#

i accidentally deleted like 3 instructer em sands and goblets

#

so my yaoyao's instructor set is scuffed

summer hornet
#

This guy is just all the edge, isn’t he

#

I can feel it

runic ether
#

u will see

old galleon
#

i've gotten over 200m honors today and still only have 34 chests

runic ether
old galleon
#

at around 7200 meat for now, been farming nm95 on fa in the background

#

gained a bit over 250m honors iirc

glossy latch
#

You can still use DoT units, but it wouldnt be a full team

#

Sampo is just generally a solid sub-DPS

old galleon
#

lmao i got hit with the gw capcha

#

been a long time since that happened

#

atm i'm at 105k tokens, 44 chests of good fortune, 286m honors in this round, and 379m honors total

#

and zero celestial weapon drops

#

also still have 7k meat

#

annoyingly, i'm still less than halfway to my target honor count

#

need 800m for sand

old galleon
#

okay so with less than 4 hours to go i have us at almost double the honors count of current 1,000th place

#

if we don't get into finals this time i'm gonna flip

long tree
#

Argor single handedly carrying us to the finish line

summer hornet
long tree
#

Finally got a 5 star ER rope for Gallagher

#

Need one more eidolon on him though before I'm fully happy with him (am E3)

slow raft
#

Very interesting graphic on hiw rolling for units instead of buying them is actually a net negative

long tree
#

Just pull them first pull

slow raft
#

True, if you pull only 3 stars every time its worth

honest pawn
#

me pulling gacha for some reason

#

I have like seven different E.G.O.s from pulling

copper steppe
#

no morgan its joever

astral drift
slow raft
#

It was so tempting to pull, but i felt like id end up in a similar situation so i did only a tenner

honest pawn
#

I'm saving for Oberon so I can't

old galleon
old galleon
#

this is a pretty neat clear

#

i had also forgotten one of wryz's skills changes element based on the zone after she gets enough stacks from iridian

#

there are definitely better ways of doing this, just probably not with only free characters

astral drift
#

this is nice

#

who else has dresses like this

old galleon
#

i see you discovered fraux

#

i don't think anyone has an identical dress to that in gbf

#

which would make sense

slow raft
#

is her name a combination of fraud and faux?

old galleon
#

i actually don't know lol

#

there is this promo vira that's neat tho

astral drift
#

is this skin like part of a series

old galleon
#

no

#

that is one of fraux's default skins once she does her 5* uncap

#

she does have a summer skin tho

astral drift
old galleon
#

same game

#

just a different character

astral drift
#

vince.gif

old galleon
#

yeah the mc has that too

#

the male has a tux

#

female is as you see

#

also this for the masquerade class

astral drift
#

yes i need more dresses like this

old galleon
#

and this for dancer

#

pubbed a credo host if anyone wants to chip in

dull bridge
#

what are my two best moc teams?

#

also ignore my bad lynx

#

i need more err and speed

#

but whatever

#

im farming her artis rn

runic ether
#

jingliu hyper, acheron hyper

dull bridge
runic ether
#

sustain bronya support

dull bridge
runic ether
#

pick your favorite

dull bridge
#

geppy dosent work

runic ether
#

yes he does

dull bridge
#

hm

#

no but i need healing

#

because she's just gonna kill the supports

runic ether
#

she wont

#

?

#

i wonder sometimes if u actually play this game ToadallyConcerned

#

properly build your sustainer and they will allow your entire team to survive any jingliu hp drain

#

the reason shes still the #1 dps in the entire game is that she has 0 downside since the hp drain is so minimal it may as well not exist

dull bridge
#

i'll fix that

#

but should I do geppy with trends on my acheron team or lynx

#

the leftover one goes to jingliu team

dull bridge
runic ether
dull bridge
#

and irs hard for me to play games on my phone

#

or text tbf

#

without being in a lot of pain

#

idk what i did

runic ether
#

you should get that checked

dull bridge
#

eh i talked to my doctor and he didn't seem to care

digital marlin
#

get a new doctor

old galleon
#

crew people, remember to go pick up the extra valor badges from finals

#

okay we need 100 clears of nm100 to unlock 150

#

iirc it should have 288m hp

slow raft
#

what kinda team does one run with acheron?
from skillset and traces i imagine two nihility supports + one sustain that does debuffs is probably optimal damage wise?
personally i think my only nihily char i want to use alongside her is pela so id go with that + gallagher(two sources of debuffs pog) and fire trailblazer since thats also a debuff and its more reliant than gebards skill

runic ether
#

acheron runs double nihility + sustain

#

so a triple nihility team

#

gallagher + acheron + pela + nihility will be good

#

that 3rd nihility can be welt, guinaifen, sampo

#

luka

#

for my latest moc 12 run, i ran gallagher pela guinaifen acheron

slow raft
#

yeah i figured but aside from welt those character sound weird to run with this team

#

actually wait, this gunaifen character seems cracked

runic ether
#

guinaifen is actually super good

#

the debuffs she provides are just about on par as the buffs from someone like asta or yukong

#

welt is also super strong

#

some ppl run no sustain teams with acheron

#

because welt can speed nerf enemies

#

and in theory with sufficient speed tuning, you can just let the enemies take 0 turns

slow raft
#

yeah i see the vision

#

personally i could never do it

runic ether
#

but even without that into account welt has good damage and good synergy with acheron

#

sampo damage is also really good

#

so u run him less as a support more as a sub dps

slow raft
#

did pure fiction for the first time today and had to actually physically restrain myself from adding a sustain

runic ether
#

i run sustains for pf but then the sustains i have for pf have some form of aoe

#

fu xuan and gallagher

#

and fireblazer

#

in any case, the 3rd nihility in the team is actually important for acheron

slow raft
runic ether
#

yeah thats acheron for ya

#

she cares more about that passive + the dot application than she does about the rest of the team damage

slow raft
#

then again ive been using a support black swan as a dps for an entire week and it has worked out just fine

runic ether
#

yeah

#

black swan dps is super good

#

independent of dot

slow raft
#

that copy also has like 4 eidolons, which i imagine helps a bit

runic ether
#

o

#

yeah thats like

#

giga powered black swan

#

i believe at e4 you can consider running solo/duo black swan

summer hornet
slow raft
#

i should prolly start farming relics at this point but something inside me is revolting at the though of it

#

i guess i should just see it as another opportunity to gamble

summer hornet
#

I've been pretty well preoccupied with a dozen different things but I'll try to get in some proper runs as we approach the weekend

runic ether
summer hornet
slow raft
#

well i did the first stage of pure fiction today nyaruhodo

runic ether
#

ah so im going to 0 cycle 0 turn the meme

summer hornet
#

As long as the main stats and set combo effects look good I wouldn't stress over it, with the exception of a) a hypercarry DPS who is intended to carry your account and/or b) you want to clear all the Memory of Chaos stages

runic ether
#

oh yeah the meme is going to explode

summer hornet
#

Which like, most people I know who play the game don't

summer hornet
slow raft
#

well, it is penacony, so

runic ether
#

it got 2 attacks in

runic ether
old galleon
#

i had like 45 chests when i started nm100, out of the 50 cap

#

not even 30 runs later i got the remaining 5

#

drop rate feels much better in 100 (and presumably 150) lol

#

no sands from my chests lol

runic ether
#

triple drop rates for planar sets but its also 3x the shit relics

summer hornet
#

I decided to try and improve DHIL’s crit damage

runic ether
#

ive done it 6 times now and this is the best piece ive gotten

#

which im p happy with tbh

summer hornet
#

Because y’know, 100% crit rate but only 97% crit damage is… fine, but not great

runic ether
#

shes p solid now since its an effective 84% crit rate

summer hornet
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And not a single piece in the past three days has met my expectations

runic ether
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i can go cdmg body with the dan heng lc

summer hornet
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This is what I’ve been experiencing

runic ether
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real

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i dont even level them much at all if its not 2x crit or 2x relevant stat

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and my topaz has been on some insane pieces tbh

summer hornet
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Love to see it

runic ether
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the boots is her worst piece

summer hornet
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Oh when you said insane pieces you meant it

runic ether
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yeah

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i meant it meant it

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topaz is my 2nd best raw cv character

summer hornet
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I might need to do what you do lmao

runic ether
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only beaten out by qq

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both of them lose out to jingliu bc lol free 50 crit rate but

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yeah

summer hornet
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Some of these passive stat gains are nuts

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FX and Aventurine casually boosting the whole team’s effect resist

runic ether
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yep lol

summer hornet
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I was so confused when I saw Licia’s Jingliu the first time too

runic ether
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my jingliu fucks too

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dont get it wrong

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82.5% crit rate + 236.5% cdmg

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with fu xuan thats 94/236

dull bridge
runic ether
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yeah cus i have other busted characters

dull bridge
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sorry idk where to ask this how do I fix this

astral drift
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drawings about gameplay are always great

dull bridge
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does this work? i don’t have giro u or shingle jingle zhongli

runic ether
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noelle isnt doing much here

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she would require a ton of energy and field time to be worth it

dull bridge
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idk

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i just thought i needed a shielded

runic ether
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yes but its not the strongest shield

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noelle isnt a shielder

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shes a dps

dull bridge
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oh

summer hornet
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How good is this smug tamamo-looking lady

dull bridge
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who do i use than

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in last slot

runic ether
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its of no fault of her own though

summer hornet
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Oof

runic ether
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shes just outclassed at all angles

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kuki has her beat at healing + electro app

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fischl has just more raw dps

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beidou is infinitely stronger at multi target

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lisa triggers just as much electro but has better field presence

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and what she does better over say fischl and beidou which is triggering dendro reactions, kuki and lisa also have her beat there

summer hornet
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RIP

runic ether
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shes better than no kuki though

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but

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well

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idk

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if ur like me and just accidentally leveled every single electro character

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her value falls off the face of the earth

summer hornet
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Definitely not at a point to be “accidentally leveling” anything rn

runic ether
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well it wasnt an accident entirely i just really like electro

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im only missing a single electro character and thats cyno but i have his polearm

summer hornet
runic ether
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who do u have for electro?

summer hornet
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Lisa and…

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Okay yep just Lisa and this new lady now lol

runic ether
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oh wow

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dori isnt out of a job just yet

summer hornet
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I’ll put her into a rotation for double electro at some point

runic ether
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not entirely worth it

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wait u have razor

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nvm shes almost jobless

summer hornet
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Oh right razor

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Man I haven’t touched him

runic ether
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hes pretty good

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for similar reasons that lisa is

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but in a different setting

dull bridge
runic ether
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oh and all 3 of your electros really want dendro reactions

summer hornet
runic ether
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get ready to go to sumeru buddy

dull bridge
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huh

runic ether
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once you touch a statue of the seven there and get dendro traveler, dont look back

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and then get collei from abyss of course

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lisa traveler collei dori can work as a team

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though dori is somewhat mid there

summer hornet
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Is there an already-activated teleport beacon for Sumeru? Or will I just have to wander over there from the slime game in Fontaine