Pokemon

[fading stratus]

but like

I dont like the 75% accuracy of sleep powder

[maiden flax]

how good is booster energy in doubles?

[fading stratus]

flutter runs booster in supportive set

scream tail always runs booster

roaring moon runs booster

for speed

tailwind

or for atk

[pseudo goblet]

was hoping Bolt do a kyogre, I even set it up lol

[maiden flax]

booster is ran in quite a few sets in singles

[fading stratus]

gouging fire always runs booster

speed

so it can fast howl

[pseudo goblet]

No way they showed UBs in the trailer right

[fading stratus]

they didnt

[pseudo goblet]

No Buzzwole

[fading stratus]

like a Kyogre team for you?

or for me

I;ll play Kyogre no doubt

in primal format I'm playing Kyogre Rayquaza because I have that shiny ray

[warm sky]

If mega toise has shell smash I'm def messing with that

[pseudo goblet]

Yes

[fading stratus]

yeah sure zane

[warm sky]

Blastoise + Amoongus is gonna go crazy

[pseudo goblet]

If sun is bad

[fading stratus]

if kyogre is allowed

Sun isnt bad

[pseudo goblet]

Ahh

Then groudon lmao

[fading stratus]

its just that non paradox sun abusers are weird

[warm sky]

shell smash and live
Pollen puff to full
KILL

[pseudo goblet]

Now, Groudon + Meganium or Emboar

[maiden flax]

actually bolt, if terrain pulse is in champions, and blastoise gets it like it did in gen 8, do you think terrain pulse mega blastoise could be a thing?

[golden lance]

Bro

[pseudo goblet]

Meganium maybe? Oh but Venusaur tho…

[golden lance]

Imagine if one of the gimmicks they bring back

Is the fucking wonder launcher

[pseudo goblet]

I was thinking passing Emboar for Zard Y

[fading stratus]

nah IDT terrain pulse is good

but you know what's good

secret power

I hope its in champions

[pseudo goblet]

Tf is that

[maiden flax]

the big part is that it's essential;ly a 130 bp move that gets boosted by mega launcher with the right teammate

[warm sky]

For context btw

[golden lance]

Ok so back in gen 5 there was this side mode of ladder

Where during battles you could get points to buy items

Like potions and x items

[warm sky]

Modest water spout OHKOs non invested Urshifu-RS

[pseudo goblet]

So items mid battle

[golden lance]

Yea

[warm sky]

No wait, forgot spread damage

[fading stratus]

at +2?

[golden lance]

Would be funny as shit in "pick 1 gimmick to use" battles

[pseudo goblet]

I can maybe see why they didnt bring it back lol

[fading stratus]

idt it'll be pick 1 gimmick

[golden lance]

Bc you could either show up with a mega or dmax mon

[warm sky]

At +2 with spread it's 76.1-89.4%

[golden lance]

Or just throw a fucking full restore into your calyrex

[warm sky]

And that's a resist

[fading stratus]

max modest or timid?

[golden lance]

[warm sky]

I said modest

[fading stratus]

urshifu has like piss spd tho

[pseudo goblet]

Be like the legend

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pokemon-journeys-pokemon-theme-pokemon-team-dracovish-gif-27347008

[maiden flax]

they said modest univested

[pseudo goblet]

I really should get into the DLC… I f-ing neeed Shiny Sirfetch

[warm sky]

As in Urshifu-RS is

[golden lance]

Btw does synth in sun heal 66 or 75 percent?

[warm sky]

135 special attack and all loo

[warm sky]

66.67

[pseudo goblet]

Yall saw nothin lol

[golden lance]

Eh

[pseudo goblet]

I didnt goof

[maiden flax]

ah

[pseudo goblet]

What would mega meganium moveset be now again?

[fading stratus]

I'll show you something

252 SpA Life Orb Dragon's Maw Regidrago Dragon Energy (150 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Urshifu-Rapid Strike: 234-277 (113 - 133.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO

the goated mon

[pseudo goblet]

Considering if I want toxic stall Venusaur or meganium

[fading stratus]

its from a team I was using this format

[pseudo goblet]

Or Rillaboom

[fading stratus]

nothing

toxic stall isnt good in vg

[pseudo goblet]

But, Thick Fat Venusaur

[golden lance]

Oh i added a zero in my head

Its 2500 vp to perma recruit not 25000

Could you imagine bro

[fading stratus]

https://play.limitlesstcg.com/tournament/69c30ae236f5b5c303dbce1c/details

if you guys are free that weekend you should join this

first champions tournament free to enter

I'll make y'all teams if you participate

[pseudo goblet]

Showdown?

[fading stratus]

champions

april 25th

so in a month

zane for you

[pseudo goblet]

Best dressed* so they fine with the pokemon collab shirt I got or

[golden lance]

Have they announced the date of za home compatibility yet?

[fading stratus]

nope

[pseudo goblet]

Wait wait so, measuring contest for shiny

[fading stratus]

kinda

yeah

shinies and ribbons

right up your alley

[pseudo goblet]

And this with Champions, werent it just battle sim

[fading stratus]

its a youtuber tournament

its a fun event

[pseudo goblet]

Sooo opponent would have maybe ADrive BlueVacktor and Catherine and CandyEvie

[fading stratus]

the opponent could even be wolfey if he participates

oh the shiny tournament yeah

probs shiny hunter ytubers

[pseudo goblet]

Well shit, I lose lol

[fading stratus]

dw

you'll do fine

[pseudo goblet]

Damn I have shift that day…

Unless timezone work in my favor

[fading stratus]

Yeah it's at night

So you can probs participate

It's 7:45 my time

[pseudo goblet]

Guess most things from SV and ZA isnt good enough since the games are

https://tenor.com/view/laser-printing-paper-gif-13755269

[golden lance]

Aight if i'm gonna shiny hunt shit for champs i gotta make it count

Who do i get first, metagross?

[pseudo goblet]

Oh Nihilego maybe, girl came to me below double digit iirc

[golden lance]

Then again the kalos starter stones are locked behind transfering to za

[pseudo goblet]

First step, get shit ton of balls lol

[fading stratus]

Metagross
Salamence
Charizard
Gengar
Kanghaskhan

Were the big 5 megas

[golden lance]

Yea

Thoughts on gyarados too?

[pseudo goblet]

Ohhhh wait right, Champions… UBs prob aint in yet…

[golden lance]

Things kind of a beast in regional dex formats

[fading stratus]

gyara is good

the problem is

we've seen incin

[pseudo goblet]

Am I predictable lol

[fading stratus]

yes but its fine being predictable

[pseudo goblet]

They never said I have to win right lol

I kinda wanna keep it as is without evolving

Man I wish theres a ribbon filter, like come on pokemon

Maybe Rattle count, used her for ladder

It was quite memorable finding her with her twin sibling at once

[fading stratus]

the team

[pseudo goblet]

Tora and korean amogus were brought to last years event lol

Hmmm

[fading stratus]

https://youtu.be/ezv1TyAodrs?si=oUfeWmu4iiaPlu2p

[pseudo goblet]

Can you shiny hunt with Champion

[golden lance]

Shit really wont move huh

[warm sky]

IT'S NOT SNOW CLOAK

[golden lance]

SINGLES CONFIRMED

[warm sky]

Guessing the leak was a mistranslation

[golden lance]

WE RUNNING THAT 120 MIN PROTECT SUB TOXIC ORB GLISCOR CLOCK

[golden lance]

It keeps multiscale fuuuuuuuuuuck

[fading stratus]

I'm disappointed by dnite

[warm sky]

I mean I called it

Like literally today

But @normal cave

[fading stratus]

INCIN LOST KNOCK OFF

HOLY SHIT

AND GENGAR LOST ENCORE

we playing fucking darkest lariat

[pseudo goblet]

I was bout to say

[warm sky]

What the fuck

Noooo

[pseudo goblet]

Dnite multiscale

[spice rivet]

https://youtu.be/ezv1TyAodrs?si=J59_gQkGJDRe6mEJ

[pseudo goblet]

Oh Im late nvm

[golden lance]

Oh shit protect got nerfed

[warm sky]

Damn, it hasn't been 5 turns yet? @spice rivet

[golden lance]

Its 8 pp now

[fading stratus]

yeah

instead of 16

oh stat drop mechanic change

0.7 instead of 2/3

for 1 drop

potentially

[warm sky]

Wait wdym

[fading stratus]

-1 is *2/3

its now *0.7

[warm sky]

Ah

[fading stratus]

wolfey said it might be rounding error in game

but idk

oh moves also state the chance of secondary effs

like showdown

[golden lance]

Oh shit they got the chinese mmo type animations

[fading stratus]

it also says priorities

so good qol

holy shit

there;s also a run button at top

you can ragequit faster

[pseudo goblet]

Flip the table is better

https://tenor.com/view/poker-night-at-the-inventory-heavy-tf2-heavy-table-flip-max-gif-17228020697544440552

[sonic inlet]

I can't believe mega nite doesn't have soul heart after all

[fading stratus]

home doesnt have cooldown

like go transfer

to home

its like pretty decent stat

since snow boosts defense

its not even bad defensively

[warm sky]

Earthquake PP is 12
Shadow Ball PP is 16

[outer eagle]

Using a Mega slot to set up Snow bruv

[pseudo goblet]

Or we can get a snow setter legendary in gen 10

[fading stratus]

doubt

the game is called
Wind and Waves

[pseudo goblet]

Snowy Wind and Sandy Waves

[warm sky]

Die

[pseudo goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-frog-shrek-frog-dying-sick-gif-5481428753379762586

[sonic inlet]

We'll get a legendary that sets up tailwind on entry instead

[warm sky]

Dibs on all Zane's shinies btw if he croaks

[pseudo goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/heal-ban-seven-deadly-sins-revive-gif-20278606

[spice rivet]

AND WE FINALLY GET KEYWORDS

No more having to memorize Bulbapedia articles thank god

[fading stratus]

oh shit

[sharp kernel]

So how huge is Incin losing knock off bolt

[fading stratus]

I'd say its not extremely huge

its significant

but not very much

Incin still has very good moves it can run

snarl

[sharp kernel]

I’m digging the UI changes in champions a lot btw

[fading stratus]

darkest lariat

[fading stratus]

I dont like the team preview

darkest lariat ignores defense boosts

btw

so it hits stuff like dozo

for full damage

there's taunt

wisp

helping hand

incin even gets mfing close combat

[sharp kernel]

I already know what I’m running day 1

I forgot I had my comp pelipper in Home until I just booted it up yesterday

[fading stratus]

which rain abuser

[sharp kernel]

The goat, mega meganium

[golden lance]

Hey no one said anything when zard y was doing that

[pseudo goblet]

We should get certain someone to play champion

[fading stratus]

its more like snow setter (a tales) is way better than sun setter(k tales, torkoal)

[sharp kernel]

I wonder what this first regulation will look like

And if Tera will be legal from the go

[fading stratus]

definitely not

[sharp kernel]

Yeah that’s what I thought as well

But that’s how they’ve been promoting champions since way back

So I figured there was a small chance

Okay, so some megas should get a little more consideration if tera isn’t legal in reg m-a

[fading stratus]

I'm very much looking at mega metagross

[golden lance]

I think everyone should start with HO just for the sake for farming vp

[fading stratus]

i'm not playing champions until after worlds

when they release for mobile

[golden lance]

What are like

The good poison types in reg h?

Meganium is prob gonna be everywhere

[normal cave]

Gengar

[golden lance]

Would you run base form jenjar tho

[normal cave]

Nah

[warm sky]

I would

[warm sky]

Also foolish you saw mdnite ability ye

[fading stratus]

I think 4 out of 5 of the old big 5 megas can OHKO meganium

[normal cave]

Yes

[fading stratus]

Jenjar with sludge bomb

[normal cave]

I am not happy

[fading stratus]

Zard with fire moves

Metagross with heavy slam/iron head

[normal cave]

But mega dnite is still my fave mon

[fading stratus]

Mence with double edge

[golden lance]

What if we ran uhhhh

[normal cave]

Amogus?

[fading stratus]

amogus also beats meganium

so does incin

[golden lance]

Toxicroak

[swift jasper]

fire spin

[normal cave]

G weezing farms meganium

[normal cave]

Sneasler

[fading stratus]

sneasler is confirmed btw

[golden lance]

Yea wezl works

[fading stratus]

they showed in trailer

[golden lance]

I'm locking that guy in

[fading stratus]

venusaur also exists

[normal cave]

Gamba Touch is broken

Alolan Muk for the memes?

[fading stratus]

alolan mjuk was a top tier meta threat once

[normal cave]

Yes

When it had psych up mons with it

[hasty anchor]

Oh yeah, Mega-Dragonite doesn't have Inner Focus

It actually just retains its hidden ability, Multiscale

[normal cave]

Mega Dnite is upsetting

[hasty anchor]

...I kinda was hoping it'd have Dragonize

Mostly cause

Hyper Beam

[normal cave]

Multiscale on a big stat stick is strong, but like, not a damage multiplier

[hasty anchor]

I mean really it's the same deal as Blaziken; what it already had was good, so I guess it was hard to improve upon it

[fading stratus]

on yeah btw chocc

hear me out

salazzle

[golden lance]

Ehhhhh

Encore support ig

[hasty anchor]

Also Mega Frostlass has Snow Warning, which is very nice.

[normal cave]

Yeah

[hasty anchor]

Especially given Ice-types now get a bonus to defense in snowfall

--Not that it'd take much advantage of it, but that means Blizzard's never really gonna miss, and it hits everything--

[golden lance]

Do yall think someone will get banned day one for showing up with mega glailie nicknamed that

[hasty anchor]

...Bit afraid to ask what that is.

[golden lance]

||Uterus jackhammer, pretty much every time you see glaile on showdown its nicknamed that||

[fading stratus]

surely game has a filter

also chocc

in tournaments nickname doenst show up

you have to use no nickname setting or sth

that doesnt show nickname

[golden lance]

Huh

Does it still show up the mons in foreign languagues?

[fading stratus]

yeah

[fading stratus]

foreign names are in foreign language

[golden lance]

So yea i'm showing up with like

M metagross incin sneasler rilla

Uhhhhhhhh

Ghold?

[fading stratus]

wanna hear a really funny strat people are using on ladder rn

in reg F

that's unironically scary

[golden lance]

Is it evasion spam

[fading stratus]

swagger torn plus lum berry sneasler

[golden lance]

Madness

[fading stratus]

yeah

ghold rilla metagross have same fire weakness

ghold metagross incin sneasler have ground weakness

so not really

metagross ghold also share dark/ghost weakness

youre just doubling a lot of weaknesses

sneasler rilla also share flying weakness

but thats not a extremely huge deal

[normal cave]

Incin rilla dozo?

[fading stratus]

dozo is like the hyperoofense mon

[magic thunder]

reddit comments from chinese speakers on the smogon post someone made yesterday were it was never snow cloack it was just auto translated poorly

and it was snow warning

cuz remember it wasn't snow cloack

it was like

snowcape

[fading stratus]

this probably works

or sth

[magic thunder]

and most thought "oh it's cape kinda like cloak"

[warm sky]

Assumed so

[normal cave]

Dozogiri psyspam

What talonflame do aside from set tailwind

[fading stratus]

its set tailwind

also hits steel types

that the whole team struggles against

[normal cave]

Flare blitz brave bird tailwind protect?

[magic thunder]

ok chay

chat

[fading stratus]

you dont need protect even

[magic thunder]

so rumor is

RN

that what scovillain's ability does

is ||make burned targets also leech seeded||

which would be fucking insane

[normal cave]

[fading stratus]

that suxks

[normal cave]

Yes that's what the hoenn special needs

[magic thunder]

truth nova

I hope it's that for the gag

[warm sky]

Cool in flavor

[fading stratus]

this is like a fine team

[warm sky]

Bad on that mon

[fading stratus]

the team only contains mons confirmed for champions

[normal cave]

It'd be good on a tanky mon with ||consistent burn tools||

[maiden flax]

@fading stratus multiscale on dragonite, snow warning on froslass
megas

wait i see you guys already found out

[fading stratus]

yeah

[golden lance]

Since WHEN

[fading stratus]

huh wdym when

[golden lance]

Ig tatsu changes things nvm

[fading stratus]

dozo teams are like do as much of damage as possible

then clean with dozo

or do as much of damage as possible with dozo then clean with rest

[golden lance]

Yea its funny bc dozo is like

THE stall mon in singles

More than garg

[normal cave]

Different format

[fading stratus]

a dozo team example in reg f

[golden lance]

Oh damn shiny mega dnite is so pretty

[fading stratus]

yeah its cool

but its a shame its not amazing

[golden lance]

Can we retroactively make that its base form shiny too

[fading stratus]

you'll get ojama lime dnite

[golden lance]

Its not even lime

Its trashbag green

[normal cave]

It is VERY pretty

[golden lance]

Thinking about it

Doesnt dnite prefer inner focus in vgc anyway?

So weird for the mega ability to be mscale

[fading stratus]

mega wouldnt like inner focus because its special

also multiscale vs inner focus is for band vs loaded die sets

band wants inner focus because it prevents flinching

loaded die wants multiscale because it reduces def

[warm sky]

[golden lance]

Trailer literally had "free to start" what are they planning

[warm sky]

@fading stratus so apparently in champions mega evolution happens BEFORE switching

Which buffs intimidate because you just switch when you predict mega lmaooo

[golden lance]

Tera also happened before switching right?

[warm sky]

Probably idr

[fading stratus]

No

Mechanics happened after switching in SV or any past game

Switch was basically the first thing to happen in a turn

Mega before switching is wild tho

Makes exactly Metagross worse

[normal cave]

Kang too

You lose scrappy

And Dnite

And Mawile

Makes Lopunny better

[fading stratus]

Dnite doesn't care

Because mega dnite is a special attacker

[normal cave]

Unless you run espeed on it uninvested

Because its patk is still big

[warm sky]

ye so kangaskhan got nerfed lol

[golden lance]

You cant save replays in champs

For some reason

[mighty storm]

Pokemon image to send to yugioh players that cant read

[normal cave]

Me at 5 steamrolling kanto with my level 50 Pikachu without knowing what the fuck is going on

[golden lance]

How do we feel about champ's animations btw?

It gives off chinese bootleg vibes and honestly i kinda like it

[pseudo goblet]

My boy would never

[mighty storm]

47 minutes till new pocket cards

[pseudo goblet]

Just this once allow me to post something COMPLETELY unrelated but mentioned in this chat once https://x.com/anon54980/status/2036706342145241562?s=46&t=q-1AmjVFLGCcEVWLfARPPw

anon54 (@anon54980)

.....we are genuinely getting a zetton dating sim on 28th March

Falling in Love with Space Dinosaur -Zetton-
"One Trillion Degree of Love"

What the fuck

This is not even april fools, Tsupro is just outjonkling us for the love of the game

X · Mar 25, 2026, 7:26 AM

[mighty storm]

https://tenor.com/view/gengar-shiny-gengar-shiny-mega-gengar-ghost-gif-9132113530462784302

[pseudo goblet]

Okay I got it out of my system now, back to pokemon lol

[golden lance]

I

KEEP

FALLING FOR IT

[pseudo goblet]

HOME trolls??

[golden lance]

"oh i need to make sure what i catch in za has the correct ability"
"Right"
"But at least i can nature confirm with synchronize"
"Right"

[mighty storm]

https://s3.pokeos.com/pokeos-uploads/tcg/pocket/571/30.webp?v=2026-03-19T18:54:41.000Z

Soon, new ducky

[pseudo goblet]

Werent trace the ability one lol

[golden lance]

Trace is ability frisk is item synchronize is nature

[hasty anchor]

More on voice actors earlier

[mighty storm]

And Twin Mega Char

[golden lance]

But yea i keep forgetting the game just doesnt have abilities at all

[hasty anchor]

Apparently, Eric Stuart (You might remember him as the VA for Brock, as well as Seto Kaiba), he really hated only being remembered as the voice of Brock.

[mighty storm]

worst Oak also

[pseudo goblet]

Even then I think SV removed Synchronize’s uses

[mighty storm]

https://s3.pokeos.com/pokeos-uploads/tcg/pocket/571/80.webp?v=2026-03-19T18:54:42.000Z

[hasty anchor]

And this gets me thinking about voice actors and the roles they did being tied to them.

[mighty storm]

Look how bad it is

[pseudo goblet]

Same with Cute charm I believe

[mighty storm]

For the "low" price of 2 megas you get the same effect as Oak for 0 megas on board

[hasty anchor]

I'm guessing it must be a relief if someone recognized him as the voice of Kaiba. Or, I guess Meta Knight.

...Yeah, he also voiced Meta Knight, in Kirby: Right Back at Ya

But then again, I guess it was because of his bad experience with 4Kids

[mighty storm]

Oh wait, its even worst

They gonna give calem a full art 100%

[golden lance]

It doesnt look that bad

Bc it doesnt cost anything

If your mega pokemon is a basic and you find 2 you get more copies of oak, if your opponent is also on a mega then its better

[mighty storm]

https://s3.pokeos.com/pokeos-uploads/tcg/pocket/571/70.webp?v=2026-03-19T18:54:42.000Z

Also look how bad they massacred gengar

[golden lance]

Can you call it a massacre if it was never good?

[mighty storm]

well time to open packs, wish me luck

XD first pack

Iconic diglet art

@waxen moat it be you

ooh full art m-manetric and interesting Iris supporter

[polar osprey]

OH GOD THEY ARE RELEASING MORE HAND CONTROL STUFF

IM GONNA KMS

[mighty storm]

well, thats a playset of M-Gengar XD

[mighty storm]

did you see the foretress ?

[polar osprey]

mega gengar is the worst mega so far

they didn't give energy accel to haunter

[polar osprey]

no the new item

opponent DISCARDS until they have 4 in hand

[mighty storm]

new foretress self destructs for 50 to all bench

[polar osprey]

and 100 to active

scizor looks nice

[mighty storm]

it has 100 HP yeah?

[polar osprey]

bcs scyther looks nice

scyther has uturn which is better teleport

then scizor does 150 for 3 energy

[mighty storm]

yep checked, it has 100 HP

[polar osprey]

haxorus is ass but

iris is fucking broken

and if there's something the TCG has taught me

is that extra points is the best effect ever

it might work just bcs of how absurd the point trading is with it

[mighty storm]

is this the first haxorus we have? Or can we use one from another set

[polar osprey]

did you see we have a shiny immersive now?

[mighty storm]

havent yet

oh got the playset of haxorus and axew now

[polar osprey]

all the megas this set but scizor sucks

[mighty storm]

150 on switch in for 3 energy, nice

there is 2 mew immersives?!

[polar osprey]

ye

one shiny

[mighty storm]

Same price to, dont gotta pay extra for the blue cat

[hasty anchor]

...This just reminds me that Haxorus still have no cards to their name with a rule box.

Like, seriously, come on now.

[mighty storm]

the crown rares

[fading stratus]

I was looking at meganium

and realised it doesnt even get moonblast

[golden lance]

Yea we were all saying dazzling for a reason

[fading stratus]

thinking about it for a while

IDT meganium will be that amazing honestly

like its decent

but like

it has so many common weaknesses

also like grass isnt really THE offensive typing

with solarbeam

the speed tier is awkward as well

[kind vortex]

amazing? probably not

fun? probably

[fading stratus]

I'm not saying it wouldn't be fun or sth

just that it probs won't be like regionals winning mega or sth

[golden lance]

Yea i dont think its making the cut

People are hyping it up so much as this giga wall that heals 67% every time but like

One darkrai sludge bomb / sneasler dire claw and it just combusts

[outer eagle]

The amount of people that thinks it heals for 75% instead of 2/3 is significantly higher than i expected

[fading stratus]

yeah

[maiden flax]

Cause it technically used to

[outer eagle]

When was that

[maiden flax]

Nvm though it did that before gen 3

But gen 3 was 1/4 into 1/2

Case of people simply misremembering then

[maiden flax]

So
Later today is pax east

Do you think we will get new mega abilities today?

Or will it be the same demo the youtubers got?

[fading stratus]

Probably more abilities

They've been doing this stuff of showing a few mega abilities per day

Like the day before yesterday was 3 starters

Yesterday was dnite and frosslass

Today I'd expect 2-3 mega abilities

[warm sky]

no zane you're not allowed to do this

do it again and I'll have to log this 😤

[pseudo goblet]

[pseudo goblet]

I blame my- whats the word for like, I dont feel right if I don’t do it , I blame that

Btw @fading stratus @golden lance Which one gonna dance with me today

[fading stratus]

I have I think 5 mons I wanna trade

So it's fine if choccy does it

[magic thunder]

Oh yeah did we talk about this already?

in the new graphic

the solo battle ranked mode

is shown as 3v3

[warm sky]

TRIPLE BATTLES ARE BACK?

[magic thunder]

no

as in

choose 3 mons

[warm sky]

Oh

[magic thunder]

[warm sky]

The singles one

[magic thunder]

ye

[warm sky]

I wanted triple battles

[magic thunder]

roration battles too...

where are they...

[warm sky]

Well gen 7 dropped them because of the lag

8/9 just went

"Nobody cares about them"

[fading stratus]

Well yeah battle stadium singles were always 3v3

[maiden flax]

Yeah that sounds about right
It's BSS

[golden lance]

@fading stratus what nature do ppl run on incin?

Careful? Relaxed? Impish? Jolly?

[fading stratus]

You can run like a defense boosting nature a special defense boosting nature or adamant

[outer eagle]

Run Modest

[fading stratus]

For Zane's nats team I think I had a impish incin

Because I wanted it to survive a zama body press

[pseudo goblet]

I came in as you spoke lmao

[fading stratus]

Ye

[outer eagle]

I’m sure some Incineroar ran Brave or Sassy for Trick Room at some point

[fading stratus]

You generally would want a bit of speed investment incin

Even in Soft TR teams

In hard TR team I've seen incin run max atk close combat

That was one of the wildest team

[pseudo goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-smash-bros-incineroar-kazuya-sephiroth-gif-27344727

[fading stratus]

I like around 92 speed incin

If you're investing a bit of speed

[pseudo goblet]

Other two are Kazuya and Sephiroth btw

[fading stratus]

No idea who those are

[pseudo goblet]

Daddy issue and- idk for sure if Sephiroth has mommy issue

https://tenor.com/view/kazuya-isabelle-smash-kick-tekken-gif-22144908

https://tenor.com/view/final-fantasy-vii-sephiroth-kirby-bounce-gif-22861980

Not gonna sit here and learn FF7 lore lmao

[golden lance]

Fuuuuuck

Do i really gotta get like 3 incins if i ever want to switch between multiple teams

[warm sky]

Ah yes my favourite Dutch webcomic artist

Wooden Plank Studios

[pseudo goblet]

Still weird they like, perma-death Sakurai after Sephiroth killed whole cast

In the arc whole shtick with ‘reviving everyone’

[golden lance]

Wait sakurai? The game dev?

[pseudo goblet]

https://youtu.be/zh8JuoTC0xU?si=38NC1G0AYuiP1JJv

[golden lance]

That's crazy

[pseudo goblet]

Like I get that, chance for them to removing the man in case theres a problem for using him too much

[fading stratus]

I've recently watched a team report of the battle room

And he said he's been running the same incin for a year

You don't need super optimal EVs

For every scenario

[golden lance]

Well what nature to start with then?

I was thinking of impish

[fading stratus]

Impish is fine yeah

You can run like 176 impish

Then rest on SPD

A bit of speed

Like around speed stat of 92

And HP

[golden lance]

Bolt what would i need from gen 8 specifically, non legend wise?

Rn my list is just boom hatter grimm

And technically duraludon

[fading stratus]

Hatterene indeedee

[golden lance]

Indee right

[fading stratus]

Corviknighy

[golden lance]

You think they let the fossils in day 1?

[fading stratus]

G wheezing

[fading stratus]

Definitely not

[golden lance]

Coalossal maybe?

Pult?

[fading stratus]

Without gigantamax coalossal is shit

Pult yeah

And garmanitan

[golden lance]

Was darm even in SV?

[fading stratus]

No

Alcremie also

Also frosmoth

Drednaw woulda been good if like basculegion and archaludon weren't legal day 1

[golden lance]

Do i get barraskewda

[fading stratus]

No

[golden lance]

NO FUCKING SHOT

[pseudo goblet]

🎉

That guy really wanted shiny alola eggys

[golden lance]

Wonder if its genned tho

[pseudo goblet]

Is that saying its origin was Violet or its last place of staying was Violet

The icoj above

[golden lance]

I have no idea

[pseudo goblet]

Guess the ol checking EV and caught location

[golden lance]

Its last game

I'll keep it

[fading stratus]

Realistically

They probably don't even have a genned checker in champions

[golden lance]

Maybe

Speaking of, how's your progress bolt?

[fading stratus]

I think I now need

Lati twins

Entei

And dlc legendaries

Also koraidon

And Terrakion

[swift jasper]

wait you can transfer from go to home to champions right?

so i technically don't need any of the games once champions is on phone, right

[fading stratus]

Yeah

I don't have any games

And I have like 30 legendaries

[pseudo goblet]

I mean thats what we been doing for like 3 weeks now

By we I mean mostly Bolt

[fading stratus]

And choccy

Zane's been helping us store mons

[pseudo goblet]

Ye

[pseudo goblet]

Btw I may or may not gonna ask you two identify your children if I can’t lol

[fading stratus]

uhh

we probs cant

[warm sky]

I should probably start grinding for April 8th

So bolt

Gimme mgar team mons

[fading stratus]

you'd defo need like incin

amoongus rillaboom

unironically

hydreigon and gengar cover eavh other's weakness really well

probably farigiraf

if legendaries are legal cresselia is also cool

[warm sky]

I should have a shiny cres somewhere

If it wasn't in my corrupted AS cartridge...

[fading stratus]

also do get a politoed

[warm sky]

For perish song?

[fading stratus]

ye

whimsicott

[warm sky]

Ofc ofc

Whimsicott Mgar was my goat duo

[swift jasper]

magmar?

[fading stratus]

a funny mon mega gengar used to be paired with was

||togedemaru||

[warm sky]

I don't remember that

[warm sky]

Mega Gengar

Smh

[fading stratus]

you probably also need a strong fighting type

to beat the dark types

a few togedemaru teams

anyway yeah

probably a good fighting type

idk sneasler

ursaluna bloodmoon

[warm sky]

What about Bryan Hands

[fading stratus]

idk if brian hands will be legal

[warm sky]

How tf have they not yet confirmed the format that's legal in 2 weeks

[fading stratus]

thats the neat part

[golden lance]

Fool! You expect communication from the pokemon company!

[fading stratus]

why is non legendary fighting pool so bad

holy shit

[golden lance]

We have it barely better than konami

[fading stratus]

there's like

kommo o

and sneasler

[golden lance]

You can run mega barbanacle

🙂

[pseudo goblet]

Never took Yami for the hunting type, huh

[warm sky]

Dog I got it from a friend ages ago

[pseudo goblet]

Aight everything back to normal

[fading stratus]

also annihilape but its ghost

so we wont play it

[warm sky]

Chesnaught is funny

It walls Gengar

[fading stratus]

chestnaught loses to like everything

[pseudo goblet]

Aww man

Ehh fuck it, give it grass type explosion

[pseudo goblet]

Apparently people are drawing Bulbasaur into a girl more often lately, not that I found them personally tho I learn why lol

[fading stratus]

why

pokopia?

[pseudo goblet]

https://youtu.be/vwKjnHbu68E?si=N0ZBU6uwukdIp5Da

Yup

Okay yup, People sure are doing that, Can always rely on Pixiv

Around 80 art in the past ONE week and Im still scrolling jesus

[maiden flax]

Pax east should be open now
So only a matter of time till we learn if there are more new abilities

[warm sky]

I'm not watching this cringe, but there better not be any nsfw fanart zane

[pseudo goblet]

Why would there be??

The video???

[warm sky]

Yes

I see gyaru bulbasaur in the thumbnail and I don't trust the internet

[pseudo goblet]

Nah just bunch of comedian reacting to pokopia Bulba

[warm sky]

And I sure as hell don't trust vtubers

To be sfw

[pseudo goblet]

Justified

Or fair, which ever works better

Ig the blonde is The most likely to raising some eyebrows lol

Literally next video I saw with her straight up saying something perverted

Yt stop listening on my conversation

[sharp kernel]

Dnite doesn't care because who's running mega dnite over tera normal dnite once both are legal

[golden lance]

Alright no longer have to worry if its reg h or not

[fading stratus]

release porygon

because there are no pre evos

[golden lance]

Surely they wouldnt

[fading stratus]

they literally said there are no pre evos

but we might import pre evos later maybe

[pseudo goblet]

So I cant f-ing enter the shiny competition with Treecko

[fading stratus]

nope

[golden lance]

Fuuuuuuuuck

Whats even the TR setter then, hat?

[fading stratus]

farigiraf

[maiden flax]

Pikachu might be in simply cause it's Pikachu

And we saw them in the trailers and previews

[fading stratus]

there's also bronzong

[pseudo goblet]

Soooo Eevee z move banned

4 of the Gmax as well

[fading stratus]

eevee will probs be in because its eevee

if pikachu is in

gothitelle also exists

cress is also another good TR setter

gallade

indeedee hatterene teams play gallade

[warm sky]

Do we think MGallade keeps Inner Focus

Or do we think Sharpness

[fading stratus]

inner focus would be really funny

but I;d want sharpness

[warm sky]

Same

[pseudo goblet]

Say Bolt

What If I give certain someone with Dot pfp the idea to try out Champion lol

[fading stratus]

wdym

[pseudo goblet]

And have her talk with you

[fading stratus]

oh

serena

sure

I'd do whatever I can to help her

[pseudo goblet]

||Shes less than a month till her ban-niversary||

[fading stratus]

ohh

[pseudo goblet]

Mb typo

Aight, let me see if she woke up

[fading stratus]

not rn zane tho I'll help her tomorrow

kinda busy today

[warm sky]

Oh your daughter is still doing well?

[pseudo goblet]

She did mention she got sick around end of this month fasting

[pseudo goblet]

Yeah dw

There is hope

[maiden flax]

So far no news on the pax east demo
Found a video though

[warm sky]

https://twitter.com/i/status/1947667567826637301

https://twitter.com/i/status/1947983519462109458

https://twitter.com/i/status/1947673580449501410

https://twitter.com/i/status/1947662221896782241

https://twitter.com/i/status/1947788723434799581

マコトウ (@mako_makotoo)

メガカイリュー！！

X · Jul 22, 2025, 2:38 PM

あしかも（Aoimo） (@Aoimo133)

メガカイリュー

X · Jul 23, 2025, 11:33 AM

ウェル🎨 (@well1291)

メガカイリュー可愛かったね

X · Jul 22, 2025, 3:02 PM

ᑕYᗩᑎ 🍃 (@cyanroll)

cool

X · Jul 22, 2025, 2:17 PM

KierScribbles | Comms Open (@KierScribbles)

I love the Mega Baby 💗
#PokemonLegendsZA #PokemonPresents #megadragonite

X · Jul 22, 2025, 10:39 PM

@normal cave like I promised

Only a few more dragonites left

[normal cave]

SO FUCKING CUUUUUUTE

[pseudo goblet]

With many layer scale

[normal cave]

Yeee

Tanky derg

Does not evaporate to one blizzard

[pseudo goblet]

What type is Baxcalibur’s signature move again lol

[normal cave]

Dragon

Maybe multiscale lets Dnite tank one

Maybe

[fading stratus]

glaive rush

https://vxtwitter.com/bruce_b04/status/2036899137715642414?s=20

Bruce (@bruce_b04)

Incineroar the last time it couldn’t use knock off in VGC:

vxTwitter / fixvx · Mar 25, 2026, 8:12 PM

sword and shield players were madmen
wdym this was the best incin stat spread

[normal cave]

Fast

Wins the fake out wars

If 84% of the meta is on incin then yeah you want to be able to fake out first so your moves go through

[fading stratus]

item btw

[sharp kernel]

We can finally show off your talents to the world Bolt

Post Champions we’ll get you out of Nepal

https://fxtwitter.com/that_bravado/status/2037151667381260796?s=46&t=DdUsqNPs-c3IFDRYOhiq8A

BravadoVGC (@That_Bravado)

In champions, Dragon Claw is now boosted by Sharpness
︀︀
︀︀(Via Japanese Reddit thread through a creator during the demo testing)

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FxTwitter · Mar 26, 2026, 12:56 PM

[fading stratus]

peam

https://youtu.be/GHCZAtGbn_8?si=6ofFbUkIKO8uhDYA

In the vid switch happen before mega

https://vxtwitter.com/JacobSkraw/status/2037201670665322872?s=20

Skraw! VGC (@JacobSkraw)

You know, I was like eh, incin losing knock off isn’t THAT big of a deal. Until I realized suddenly someone can switch in ALOT safer…

vxTwitter / fixvx • GIF · Mar 26, 2026, 4:15 PM

[warm sky]

... Oh it might be speed tier based then?

Bc I saw the greninja clip

[fading stratus]

the trevenant that was paralysed switched first over scizor mega evo

[warm sky]

Oh huh

Guess it must've been an earlier build then

https://www.rxddit.com/r/stunfisk/s/2pgCEbdMKR

[fading stratus]

Prayge drampa gets drizzle

[normal cave]

Mausape rain

[fading stratus]

https://x.com/serebiinet/status/2037198138814169564?s=46

Serebii.net (@SerebiiNet)

Serebii Update: With the recent previews and the now running PAX East demo for Pokémon Champions, we have updated our available Pokémon with a list of the over 120 currently known Pokémon that will be available in it

It can be found @ https://t.co/uip3JSO5SJ

X · Mar 26, 2026, 4:01 PM

Basing the teams on this Pokémon list

Bro the champions tournament I posted yesterday has like almost 2400 entrants so far

[maiden flax]

I registered too

[fading stratus]

Oh what mega you building around

[maiden flax]

Waiting for the ability reveals to decide

[fading stratus]

Ah gotcha

I woulda registered too if champions was on phone as well

[maiden flax]

So far different build as the ones the youtubers played but seemingly no new negas

[maiden flax]

Million dollar question
Is it just dragon claw
Or is it all claw moves

[normal cave]

Claw...

[fading stratus]

It's Clawbbering time

[normal cave]

Claw is law

[maiden flax]

Claw is law (feral)

[spice rivet]

Side note: You know what all this Pokemon Battling infrastructure is perfect for?

What if in a later update, they add a Battle Factory mode to Champions? Imagine an official leaderboard for streaks etc. it would be so sick.

[hasty anchor]

That

Would be very cool

[spice rivet]

As long as it's not p2w or you could "save" your streak with VP it would be a great way for less competitive people to experience battling imo

[magic thunder]

Dragon Claw now counts as a slicing move

[warm sky]

Shadow Claw too

[warm sky]

shadow claw apparantly too btw

[pseudo goblet]

the shiny one?

[kind vortex]

give ceruledge sharpness challenge 2026 (impossible)

[vagrant steppe]

Why the fuck did they make it so speed affects switching and megas in champions??

That feels crazy

[pseudo goblet]

https://vxtwitter.com/spacekitaarise/status/2037223438318797062?s=46&t=q-1AmjVFLGCcEVWLfARPPw

HedgehogRNBW🌈 KRGS (@SpaceKitaaRiSE)

SHOUTOUT TO THE MEGA EVOLUTION HENSHIN STILL HAVING THAT TOKUSATSU SEASONING

QRT: Charmi
La animación de Mega evolución de Pokémon Champions es una BARBARIDAD

vxTwitter / fixvx · Mar 26, 2026, 5:41 PM

https://tenor.com/view/kamen-rider1-kamen-rider-ichigo-hongo-takeshi-showa-rider-kamen-rider-showa-gif-17748619

Do forfeit button Have to stay there all time tho lol

[normal cave]

Yes

[fading stratus]

Japanese people are already making teams for champions

https://fixupx.com/4696poke/status/2037195148812230976?s=20

シロクロ (@4696poke)

チャンピオンズのダブルで私好みのパーティ案が出来ました
︀︀
︀︀ちなみに、トリル下のメガ枠はケケンカニにしていますが、内定次第ではクチートの可能性もあるし、バクーダになる可能性もあるという

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FixupX · Mar 26, 2026, 3:49 PM

[normal cave]

Sun

[fading stratus]

I mean this looks cool ig

I'd play mega Venu

Over regular venu

And swap the crab for something else

[normal cave]

Crabonimable

Wait that's mega crab

[fading stratus]

Yeah

[normal cave]

Why does crab have a mega

[fading stratus]

It's like 30 base speed

Or sth

Slow as fuck

[normal cave]

How much base speed is mega goli

[fading stratus]

Crab is 33 apparently

Golissopod is 43

[normal cave]

Mega goli gets cracked af priority

[fading stratus]

First impression isn't as amazing in VG

Compared to singles

[normal cave]

Protect?

[fading stratus]

Because stuff like fake out protect exist

[normal cave]

Yeah makes sense

Hmmm

Damn shame, bug steel is insane typing

Btw, do you think mega dnite can work

[fading stratus]

It would be surprising if it didn't work

Because it's stats are so well distributed

It's just that it isn't amazing

[normal cave]

Hmm

[fading stratus]

The best partner for dnite is probably just kyogre

Because they have insane synergy

[normal cave]

Hurricane water spout go brrr

Yeah I was thinking dnite in the rain

[fading stratus]

Tho the question is

Is mega dnite worth over regular scale shot dnite

[normal cave]

I honestly dunno

I love both

Btw do we know mega tatsu's ability?

[fading stratus]

Nope

[normal cave]

[fading stratus]

Scale shot dnite also doesn't have it's best partner

Which is a shame

Gouging Fire

[normal cave]

I thought chien pao

[fading stratus]

Nope

Scale shot dnite plays way differently

[normal cave]

Huh

Scale shot dnite is support right?

With tailwind and maybe encore

[fading stratus]

It's support when gouging fire doesn't exist

When gouging fire exists it's scale shot iron head espeed

[normal cave]

Ohhh

Nasty

Gamba dice?

[fading stratus]

https://pokepast.es/93c8d1f63ebe78d0

Here's a example team

[normal cave]

Wow that team has spicy techs

[pseudo goblet]

What the yeti for

https://youtube.com/shorts/5-dqHnnSL8Y?si=hXm6ZOV9cT1rMbTw

@golden lance

[fading stratus]

It's a trick room attacker

[fading stratus]

It's not spicy tech

It's the most standard gouging fire HO team

[pseudo goblet]

Maybe they made Mega Crab just so all the kahunas can go mega later on

Never mind, Thought Olivia had Barbaracle

Oooh Acerola had Banette and Frolass

Kahili had a Skarmory in SM

Not in USUM tho, she swapped to Braviary

Blinded by her Hawlucha for a sec

[fading stratus]

here's my updated sun team

[pseudo goblet]

Throat chop

[pseudo goblet]

Wait no Solar Beam???

[fading stratus]

not really

[pseudo goblet]

Ig the logic is maximize the damage output as possible, over coverage

In this case, stay with the stab

Raidons were confirmed for Champioj right

Or do we know format is no restricted

[fading stratus]

here @warm sky here's a base gengar team

assuming bloodmoon is legal

since ursaluna is

the supporting move on gengar is up for debates

it can be wisp and stuff

and such

mega gengar yawn vortex is funny

[pseudo goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/gengar-appears-pokemon-will-o-wisp-pokemon-will-o-wisp-gif-26942167

Good ghost boi

[pseudo goblet]

I thought you hated dire claw lol

[fading stratus]

yeah I'm thinking for a sneasler replacement

why is there no good fighting type

thats not a legendary

[pseudo goblet]

sure there is

https://tenor.com/view/sword-shield-lets-duel-sirfetchd-gif-23704879

[fading stratus]

here

[pseudo goblet]

Rage powder*

Huh, Yawn

Previous team had Sleep powder too

Bolt you sleepy?

[fading stratus]

sleep is a very good status

[pseudo goblet]

Do insomnia have any good mon with it

[fading stratus]

forgot to put lefties in bloodmoon

[fading stratus]

insomina is good sometimes

when rillaboom can use worry seed

[maiden flax]

So did we get any new info while I was asleep?

[spice rivet]

Theres some weirdness with switching and Mega evolution priority

[fading stratus]

yeah

its probably pre builts

also there's some weird stuff on which mega evolves first

[outer eagle]

Meganium always mega evolves first trust

[pseudo goblet]

Champion allowing Mega Sceptile to have Contrary trust

Okay why they give ma guy so many physical dragon moves

Way better than JUST Dual Chop like back then but ya know

Guy doesnt even learn draco meteor

@fading stratus hear me out, Mega Sceptile Z, change focus to physical, grass steel, with tough claw 😤

[fading stratus]

If the ability changes then it'd be peak

Also contrary Draco meteor

[pseudo goblet]

Which it cant learn

Is Grass Lighting any good??

[fading stratus]

Lightingrod isn't awful

It's a fine ability

But it's just that sceptile has nothing going for it

[pseudo goblet]

Yeah so what if GF putting more effort into it

[fading stratus]

I mean zard is one of the best megas