torterra is the only pokemon to learn solarbeam that is also based on a water animal
#Pokemon
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Dang, Ludiculo secretly an agent if the sun
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Thick Fat Venusaur soon
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It's a fat ass frog
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They probs will get ability
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Theres Champions battle sim anyway 
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Since the main appeal of ZA is megas and megas are kinda pointless without abilities
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Imma just call it Battle sim just to avoid confusion
Pokemon Champion isnt~ really a good name
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Zane will be new champion champion
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Since the main appeal of ZA is megas and megas are kinda pointless without abili...
And Sinnoh was the region that introduces Abilities, and yet here are after PLA
So many fucking typos…
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Abilities were introduced from gen 3
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Oh right yeah
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Run 21-40 when
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Run 21-40 when
Probably do some fossil hunting, and sell the extra items for cash, again, DA is not good for broke account
Oh right, kinda late but god Dondozo is bigger than Kyogre https://vxtwitter.com/centroleaks/status/1928457551672234015?s=46&t=q-1AmjVFLGCcEVWLfARPPw
Boi needs his Primal back
I can confirm Primal is still relevant in the franchise, between the arcades and Masters EX
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Primal groudon would probably be the best restricted
Especially now with the protosynthesis mons
Imagine your opponent leading primal groudon and flutter mane
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Go away
I'd probably never play groudon and Kyogre
Don't get me wrong
Kyogre is my fav legendary
But uhh yeah 85% origin pulse
At least you can click water sprout
But groudon just doesn't have that
Well earthquake but it's earthquake lmao
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New ground type nuke for Groudon 🙏
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If only Helping Hands boosts accuracy
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Gravity does
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Gravity also removes flying and levitate immunity to ground
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Are there ever like, Shedinja+follow me-er team play?
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Shedinja is actually a pretty good mon
It's always used in restricted formats whenever it's legal
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Which is why Im thinking a fixing around EQ
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Shedinja doesn't get follow me
But it gets a fun move
Ally switch
They nerfed it this gen tho
Might have been because of shedinja
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Shedinja doesn't get follow me
Groudon+Shedinja+Follow me-er
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Basically the idea behind shedinja is mons like xerneas Kyogre zacian just can't touch it
And ally switch isn't follow me but it's follow me equivalent
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Switch spot with team
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Cresselia made me memorize it a bit lol
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In terms of accuracy
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Oh they made it you cant spam it??
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Suddenly wonder if thats why I won against the Cresselia team(iirc…)
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Ready to run
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Thick Fat 
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Well will be better I should say
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Thick Fat <:clearly:1247706297491656795>
Smh forgetting Jenjar
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Gengar??
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Say, how long it might take to master Perish Trap
outer eagle
Old games have a weird tendency to separate a route into multiple sections that force you to go through a different area before accessing the other subspaces
Hoenn route 111 being a big example 
Just name the desert a different area smh
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Say, how long it might take to master Perish Trap
One that might be TOO rely on the tactic
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In scarlet violet perish was legal after 1 month of tournament play
So could be same
Oh master as in learn
A long time
I think half the difficulty of perish is the team building
I thought you meant champions
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A long time
Alright then, fuck joining the dark side 
outer eagle
half the difficulty of perish is becoming wolfey
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Already has shitton of shit to do
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Wolfey's team still had multiple tops and I think a regionals second place as well
After wolfey made the team
So it's not that only wolfey can play it
I think that team also topped Zane's tournament funnily enough
outer eagle
One day someone will win a big event with Baton Pass trust 
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Aint the team a Lunala one
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Top ≠ win
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Yeah
Still feels somewhat unease that the winner mightve been a guy I talked to the most at the event, and saw him using Lunala, and apparently the winner was a Lunala team
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Who knows
Unfortunate I didnt catch his other team member at the time, only Lunala
In my defense, bat is shiny purple and huge as heck
outer eagle
Do players also submit nicknames to be referred to as?
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Wanna play bat in your next tour?
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Do players also submit nicknames to be referred to as?
Only real names
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Yeah in-game name
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Wouldve been bad if it were a sus name lol
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More like a filter
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That was supposed to be nasser
Someone's name
But some game censored ass
I saw it somewhere
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Yeah no I know people here CAN be mindless racist assholes
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outer eagle
here?
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Malaysia
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more like everywhere tbh
outer eagle
It always do be funny how people are so egoistical to each other about their arbitary lines on their arbitary pieces of land using arbitary standards only applicable in arbitary timelines 
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Not sure if this sentence suggests something bad, hope not
WE RE NOT EVEN IN US, THEY HAVE NO REASON TO SAY IT
Im okay, just feel like ranting about some idiots I witness in the past
Im just keep myself quiet while Internally wish they get what they deserve
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is this referring to VGC since most on smogon still do 252/252 though irony that tornadus runs a super specific set in OU
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also DA became a weird way to me use a Gmax Duraludon
inland gyro
Not sure if this sentence suggests something bad, hope not
WE RE NOT EVEN IN US...
didn't that happen to some football team that went to china and the welcoming crowd was constantly saying the n word for shits and giggles?
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... if that did happened, I am not amused
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also DA became a weird way to me use a Gmax Duraludon
Woahhh Swoobat Sick shiny color you have
I just hope NPC doesnt switch their mon to you
They did... ughhh
they had a Nidoqueen btw
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Woahhh Swoobat Sick shiny color you have
@fading stratus Watch me get Swoobat before Lunala
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Why its always the start of the run where the team seems perfect!
These idiots will switch with random mon later
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against Lunala
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when you ohko lunala through shadow shield 
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1 life left before Lunala
outer eagle
you simply won't get moongeist beamed
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wait what??? I still have 3 lifes??
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Moongeist beam killed your 3 lives
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one hit on Maro would do it yeah
somehow working well so far into Lunala
Salazzle Venom Drench and Moonblast into Roselia
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Shadow ball into Quag
holy shit this team makes the 21st
Lunala has ZERO desire to hit Marowak
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Second
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they re the same guy
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Shark looks ugly
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Shark looks ugly
Its actually an upside down sleeping bat lol
Evil and Live are the name
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gastrodon with Waterfall and Rocktomb*
W, t, f
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Rock Tomb is a good move
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Best version at least
Also Skitter smack
frick I shouldve pick Mimikyu myself, Diguise is so good here
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Magmar switch for random Gourgeist, Huge
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It's so funny to see you struggle to power through non lunala mons
It's probably hard but it's funny for some reason
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BECAUSE IM DEALING WITH NPC
Enemy Miltank Max Strike on Mimikyu, Diguise falls, tf is this interaction 
STOP THUNDER WAVE MY TEAM DAMN IT
Good now they TW on Lunala
Lets go~~~~ Deathless with NPC lol
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Lol
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Nothing
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23rd for sure
swift jasper
Best version at least
Also Skitter smack
i see the goat
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i see the goat
He did well, even with all physical moves lmao
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The goat druddigon
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Enemy Chansey has Heal Pulse
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Well call it druddigoat
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I expected it would have Heal, Chansey went and proves me right lol
OH NOW NONE OF THE NPC WANTS TO SWITCH, SURE!
RPG behavior, nobody wants the healer
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I rather not found out if the Heal Pulse targets team or Lunala anyway
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maybe, but these mons comes with preset movesets
now they skipped on Greedent???
which was difficult to defeat btw
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Greedent is goated
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Greedent is goated
Losing to your fav mon btw
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There goes one life
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Use max strike
Throat Chop, Snarl, Taunt, Substitute lol
I just spam Max Snarl before I die
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DEDENNE FINALLY USE THUNDER
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Dedenne is one of the worst mons man
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fuck the npc, Im taking Bisharp for myself
2 lifes left 
Oh wow it did have Metal Sound, Throat Chop was wise
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Chop the throat of lunala
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It's 23 now
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now 23- bruh
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Now 24th run is the charm fr
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mannnnn, the one mon I didnt throw cooler balls at?
While I have Yozzoy, whats the math that I got 3 shinies within like, 30? 40 runs?
actually no, 4, the double shiny on the cofagrigus/Golduck
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While I have Yozzoy, whats the math that I got 3 shinies within like, 30? 40 run...
1/100 x 4 (with shiny charm), so roughly 1 in 25 overal
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didnt people had troubles and shiny only after like 100 runs? lol
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The vile one
Memories from Unite? lol
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Oh yeah btw yozz
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Oh yeah btw yozz
why does AV mirai do negative damage
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Memories from Unite? lol
Nah, greedent is usually free in Unite
I just don't like it
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Its never gauranteed, even the 1/25 is a misleading since its 1/100 roll for each Pokemon
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why does AV mirai do negative damage
TRUU
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TRUU
Also I've been thinking
What if we played weezing Leech seed ice rider
It's around 3.94% to get a shiny
In each run
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Speaking of berry, how cute, it has one in the box art
also wdym it has a sword
now Im imagine Greedent doing those Swallowing swords tricks
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also wdym it has a sword
Average Galarian Pokemon
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Greedent has decent enough stats that it could be playable in a weak enough format
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Trick room mon
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Like say gen 7 format
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Ursaluna at home
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That was my first VG format
And it was peak
Matches devolved into p2 mirrors
Or celesteela mirrors
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Bruh
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thinks thats it for today
back to the irl grind tomorrow, having some serious business with HR...
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... Oh fuck I forgot to check on 3ds training...
outer eagle
Men would literally build their own labyrinth instead of going to therapy
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Omg its still running
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Men would literally build their own labyrinth instead of going to therapy
Mood
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usually how much in advance does gamefreak reveal new gen details?
feels like should've been hearing about gen 10 already
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A year after ZA prob
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you mean release date?
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i'm aware around release date i was more meaning about once info starts coming out
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But we should know more about maybe late this year or early next year
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months earlier then
inland gyro
aww rip
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I rather them take 2 more years from now lol
inland gyro
can't wait for no tera in OU proceeds to release a more obnoxious mechanic
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if it meant better everything
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I rather them take 2 more years from now lol
again i don't mean release date i mean details coming out
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Idt it'll be in 2 years unless next worlds will be in champions
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did I stutter
watch Champions become the next Pokemon Sleep
months and months of no news of it lmao
ig that was ZA till recently huh
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ok just checked and the SM announcent was only 3/4 a year in advance so yeah will be a while
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but yeah hopefully next generational mechanic is less obnoxious than tera
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Idt 2027 worlds will be in SV atleast
Either champions or gen 10
So late 2026 at earliest ig
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also dragonite being up for suspect test is hilarious
gen 1 ahh pokemon being broken
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Holy that's so funny
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well its not going for suspect test yet but people are talking about how broken it is
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Omg its still running
Bolt mind help me with what ev to give the more special mon here, Group one 1 gained max sp atk, Group 2 max atk, Group 3 max defense
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pretty much its same issues as roaring moon
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Greedent should be max atk
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no the 3ds mons in the image lmao
outer eagle
How to train your Eevee
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The answer is none of the good ones
Do whatever you want with the bad ones
Rule of thumb is generally you'd want 252 on attacking stat
And 252 on speed of Hp depending on the mon
For basic ev training
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293
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Not even close
Regieleki is way, way better, and fills a different niche
It's the fastest damage dealer with access to Electroweb
Xurkitree is a nuke button
If anything, Xurk is closer to Miraidon
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It's the fastest damage dealer with access to Electroweb
Good New Bolt, Regieleki can be shiny 
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Eleki also got nerfed
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Rotom I literally just saved, stop telling me to save again...
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Why
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But they removed it from it's learnset
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Xurkitree nearly won worlds back in 2017 fun fact
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Let me guess, with Koko
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Wanna hear a fun fact
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Have we ever deny
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It was in fact not koko
Their tapu of choice was Lele
Idk how dude even lost tbh
After that insane read
That was like one of the most shocking reads in the finals
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Their tapu of choice was Lele
My fav Tapu maybe, girl is op in Masters
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https://pokepast.es/7bb54324cf52d9bd
We really need iv slider in mainline
AT LEAST allow us in Champion, please
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My fav tapu is the shellfish
Same
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Stop using Aqua Ring
Remind me to bring Disable or Taunt if I ever try to hunt Fini
But~ I think shes in DA soooooo, GL future me
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Fini is a goated mon
Water fairy is a great typing
And misty terrain is a funny terrain
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So good in fact they made two same gen
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Primarina is OU in singles because Fini isn't in the game
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Neither would a reasonable person let an ai write their essays
I tried once and it gave me non existent references like wtf
kind vortex
Neither would a reasonable person let an ai write their essays
i think their point is a whole lot of people do
i def wouldn't recommend it for obvious reasons
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they sound like an AI defender
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@pseudo goblet
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<@430667447692034059>
spice rivet
Looks like the game will finally be able to run at a solid 60 (If you watch the trailer in the Nintendo Today app due to Bluesky compression)
inland gyro
Looks like the game will finally be able to run at a solid 60 (If you watch the ...
take it likely no graphical improvement?
spice rivet
Seems like a bit of a bump, but nothing crazy tbh
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rip
my main issue was the same copy pasted textures on every similar surface that looked nasty and also that it umm... would "slip" at times when you moved
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Even relicanth is someone's fav Pokémon huh
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Yeah, each mon is someone's fave. Even Simisear.
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Poop monke
vagrant steppe
https://bsky.app/profile/serebii.bsky.social/post/3lqn2qvtcqk25
Oh hey it looks like a PS3 game now. Crazy
Looks a lot smoother, but it's still so empty and bland lol
normal cave
Who spilled ink on him 
vocal torrent
viral ingot
Sivally and Rampardos seems pretty cool, though I often brick for some reason. Gonna need to add another Iono for better hands. 😔
frosty ledge
tbh kinda surprised I don't see iono more often, the fixing is so nice
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True that. I guess people are just mroe confident or skilled in using their hands than I am. xd
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Relicanth at 26th popular
@normal cave @fading stratus it fucking went up
If I werent working I would wheeze pretty crazy
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first matchup
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If I werent working I would wheeze pretty crazy <:KEKW:622347587516628993>
What's so funny about Relicanth?
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What's so funny about Relicanth?
By how weird the trading scenes has to be for it be this high
Most logical being somebody masuda hunt the fossil feesh
Relicanth aside, bro cherubi???
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first matchup
Incin goes crazy here
You can even probably play blaze
Or mirror herb intimidate
Mirror herb is fine as well
You can probably even run lead horoark to fake blaze
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Incin goes crazy here
Yeah I'm bringing incin here, it's really good for the gambit, I think I'll go heavy duty boots due to the uxie being hard to knock out before it gets hazards up and I need the incin to be healthy
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Can't change forms so it's stuck with the crystal
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You can probably go like twave dialga
Twave rocks roar idk
Roar also works Vs setup gambit
I think they might want to bring defiant here over supreme overlord because you have incin
maiden flax
There's a lot of sets I could go with for dialga
maiden flax
I think they might want to bring defiant here over supreme overlord because you ...
Yeah I had thought of that too
One big worry I have is the iron valiant
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Which one's your tera captain
maiden flax
Lots of sets they could bring for that one
maiden flax
Which one's your tera captain
The ones marked in purple so the two apes
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Oh what teras or free tera
maiden flax
It's up for consideration but probably not against the team with a gambit on it
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Would you ever want to go trick room
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Btw @spice rivet did you see this sick ass team from HK nats
https://pokepast.es/9df386948901fa67
It top 16'd but sadly they didn't make worlds
daring pine
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He did misty dirty
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Fuck misty
sonic inlet
swift jasper
spice rivet
Fuck misty
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slim birch
Fuck misty
mighty storm
they fixed the windmill
sleek sky
if that's a video, try fixvx.com so it embeds properly
swift jasper
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Now how will this benefit shiny hunting I wonder
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Game went from 10fps to 20fps in switch 2
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young river
Game still has some popin issues, but keeps a consistent 60 FPS, even in Terra Raid. There were a few areas that occasinally dropped to 55 FPS, but its alot better.
Spawn radius has also improved, at one point they counted 30 pokemon at once.
Load times were also improved, flying went from 8 seconds to 2 seconds
And yes, they fixed the windmill.
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Game still has some popin issues, but keeps a consistent 60 FPS, even in Terra R...
Great~ more targets to view the minor color change difference
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Game still has some popin issues, but keeps a consistent 60 FPS, even in Terra R...
I assume they fixed the picnic loading speed as well
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Swimming googles were real but the people who were supposed to put it in the game went to sleep because they weren't water types
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https://vxtwitter.com/psaber97/status/1929674456806330618?s=46&t=q-1AmjVFLGCcEVW...
Corv and stinkaton is a ironic duo
warm sky
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Tontaro!
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Tontaro!
Heres one more https://vxtwitter.com/tontarotaro/status/1926091961389265303
Curse twitter for not showing me Tontaro lately
A bunch of stuff to catch up
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Heres one more https://vxtwitter.com/tontarotaro/status/1926091961389265303
Sushi!
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Both technically dragons
Funny how Ampharos, whose jp name LITERALLY means Electric Dragon (and electrical current) is a bit less Dragon-y than freaking Raging Brachiosaurus lmao
Honestly now I want Paradox Ampharos if we get to pick which mon to replace Sandy Shocks 
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Tontaro is Zane's favourite Twitterer
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Tontaro is Zane's favourite Twitterer
I mean three tons of them are behind my filter but wholesome twitterer, yeah sure, Tontaro lol
normal cave
https://tenor.com/view/power-rangers-dino-thunder-power-rangers-dino-thunder-zor...
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That looks like a giant telescopic [REDACTED]
Could not resolve English data for searches: redacted
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That looks like a giant telescopic [REDACTED]
Hows this then
if you saw a second ping, dwai, I remembered how to post gif with spoiler lol
normal cave
Won't load for me, but I think I know that gif
swift jasper
it's not a gif
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I wonder if we get a legends unova game would the professor be Bianca
That would be cool
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Yeah
swift jasper
she works so hard even if she's a bit of a doofus
ngl now that i think of it she's one of my favorite gen 5 characters
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Won't load for me, but I think I know that gif
Oh wth, one sec
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she works so hard even if she's a bit of a doofus
We watched her grow from a rival to prof's assistant id love to finally see her as the professor
It'd be a nice conclusion to her character
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Dick blast
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We watched her grow from a rival to prof's assistant id love to finally see her ...
Then a Champion in an AU
Cute outfit btw
I honestly forgot their partner pokemon in this form
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Who got landorus
void herald
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHREcG8VERU
finally, the ligmazord
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Cute outfit btw
X
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https://twitter.com/miiyokoe/status/1929150809180127431?t=JagNXgmrJWj-iQBN_p01gw...
shit I shouldve paid attention to the story lately 
inland gyro
for the 2nd smogon tiers trend great tusk has once again dropped the ball falling from #1 to #1
inland gyro
Why wasn't drops applied in June
because may was the tier change month
or april can't remember which one
they show trends every month but the actual tier updates are every 3 months
inland gyro
its why the top part says "pokemon that would've"
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Mence not even being UU is so funny
inland gyro
also i think the cutoff usage rate is for the sustained 3 months but yeah these trends are 1 specific month so i think we had a mon during a update month say it was OU usage but didn't rise since it wasn't average across all 3 months
but yeah we've had it twice now where great tusk has been in the dropped the ball section and remained #1
has been shitposted a bunch for that
also gonna say with zero context: RIP MEW
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finally, the ligmazord
That shit is 10 years ago
inland gyro
just realised conkeldurr has a absolutely nuts line up of ability options
obv clear best one but that all 3 were a choice is wild
normal cave
There's a reason Conk was so popular
viral ingot
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Dude looks like a professional bodybuilder
normal cave
That would imply he does that to make money
But making money is wasting time on taxes and purchases. Time that should be spent making GAINS.
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<:Pog:877366209706852384>
Yo!
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Dude looks like a professional bodybuilder
Still doesnt feel right naming my Shiny Buzzwole Escanor, still open for suggestions finding one I like
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https://tenor.com/view/confused-what-huh-gif-15321953
Hating on iron fist smh
inland gyro
Dude looks like a professional bodybuilder
pretty sure it is meant to be one given some of the poses in the anime
inland gyro
Hating on iron fist smh
well when you have guts and sheer force there's clear better options
inland gyro
pretty sure it is meant to be one given some of the poses in the anime
yep literally immediately hitting them poses XD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoM6KD27hjo
pseudo goblet
Reminder that only Female mosquitoes drinks blood, the males usually drinks juice
And~
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Males drink snorlax
inland gyro
Iron fist is the better ability in doubles yeah
why in doubles?
inland gyro
its mostly an issue that doubles just ends too quickly to use well?
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Yeah also well like I say if it's guts it's very telegraphed that it'll use protect on the first turn
Also with iron fist you can hold other items
Like AV
Or even LO
It's by no means bad it's just worse of the 2
inland gyro
ahh ok fair
take it very often its not played as a sweeper?
oh actually singles doesn't play it as a sweeper either
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It's too slow to be a sweeper anyway
It's generally just used as a TR attacker
Guts has won worlds tho
But with lefties
pseudo goblet
its mostly an issue that doubles just ends too quickly to use well?
Easy then, enemy use Dondozo, automatic long fight 
inland gyro
also i saw jimothy's latest vid and i find it amusing that oricorio has been the most problematic mon for lower tiers in smogon
inland gyro
apparently between all forms its been banned 24 times
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Ogrepon will probably be the same in some format
inland gyro
Also probably because it's got gazillion formes
nah revelation dance in gen 9 and getting quiver dance is why
revelation dance is essentially better tera blast
since you have an actual STAB type without going into tera rather than shitty normal non STAB
and yeah that buff on top of getting quiver dance made it a nasty af sweeper
they also kept unbanning them with the new content releases and proceed to have to ban again lmao
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Ig quiver dance does that to a mf
inland gyro
quiver dance with better tera blast
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I wish doubles did a low tier format once it'd be funny to use random shit
Well they kinda did
But it was still not low tier
inland gyro
UUbers is such a funny format name
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Does it actually have a ladder
inland gyro
i think its ran unofficially
inland gyro
what do you mean OU prime?
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Like stuff banned from OU
inland gyro
a bunch show up but its also actual ubers mons that aren't viable in that
this is viability ranking but dunno how up to date it is, also more stuff below B rank
normal cave
this is viability ranking but dunno how up to date it is, also more stuff below ...
Fraudanacl spotted
outer eagle
Or rock
Arceus Rock would be like low C i'd wager, and Bug would be F, cuz D would be too generous for it
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I wonder how good arceus would be if it were legal in vg
Probably decent right?
Especially since you can be any of the 18 types
That sounds pretty flexible
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I wonder how good arceus would be if it were legal in vg
Pair with Silvally
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Sivally isn't good either
Sivally's biggest downside is just that arceus' plates give it buff but not the discs
outer eagle
VGC Arceus would prolly be support focused
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95 in each stat is also like
Bad
It could be an offensive mon
With pao
Since arceus is the strongest e speed user
But it's stats are lot to be desired tbh
The tradeoff of using arceus is you're not using stuff like mirai or CSR or ice rider or korai etc etc
pseudo goblet
95 in each stat is also like
… didnt Mew or other mythicals had 100 each stat…
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Most mythical do
Like manaphy jirachi mew
And victini whatever the grass bush is and celebi
pseudo goblet
The Hedge Hog
ashen barn
Shaymin
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Yeah that
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100 in each stat isn't really good
ashen barn
Don't ask what the sky form does 
inland gyro
Arceus Rock would be like low C i'd wager, and Bug would be F, cuz D would be to...
bug is D but D is treated as untiered
inland gyro
yeah because of it having flinch spam on a good statline
outer eagle
Shaymin the og haxman of Ubers
ashen barn
60% flinch + 80% spdef drop
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Seed flare vroken
inland gyro
shaymin is dogshit in ubers but still too much for OU
outer eagle
pre-gen 6 paraflinch was way more vroken anyways
ashen barn
Sub leech slash for ou is a nightmare
outer eagle
33% to fully para instead of 25, 50% to hit yourself in confusion instead of 33
ashen barn
pre-gen 6 paraflinch was way more vroken anyways <:icant:1310294700384714813>
Don't remind me how they nerfed para twice
inland gyro
but yeah bug arceus is untiered in UUbers
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Bug is goated type tbh
It's just that it sucks
Most of the times
Bug shoulda been super effective on fairy
ashen barn
Same bud
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And fairy shoulda been not very on bug
inland gyro
Most of the times
the issue is that bug mons themselves are shit
but bug type has some amazing tools
and some great abilities are often given to them
inland gyro
STAB u-turn, first impression and buffed leech life
inland gyro
amazing toolbox line up for bugs
ashen barn
Just straight up powder
inland gyro
powder was a drastically drop stat one right?
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Bug also has stuff like lunge and shit
ashen barn
powder was a drastically drop stat one right?
No
Powder was vivillon's signature move
inland gyro
Bug also has stuff like lunge and shit
araquanid was using that for a little while
oh and obv quiver dance
ashen barn
You cover the opponent in explosive dust
And if the opponent uses a fire move, you stop the attack and they get hit
inland gyro
the only non bugs that learn quiver dance are oricorio and ZU shitlord grasses
but yeah usually issue for bug is its full of shitmons
inland gyro
oh and this ig
outer eagle
Volbeat...
inland gyro
awful offensively into some of the best types on the game
outer eagle
inland gyro
ILLUMISE oh wait
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inland gyro
yeah i like how the non special oriented mon in that duo gets the insane special setup move
ashen barn
Yeah even with prankster, idt it's a good one
inland gyro
well yeah it defeats the point of why prankster is good
ashen barn
Also the frailer of the 2 gets it
Not even the "bulky" illumise
No, it's mr kartana spdef volbeat
inland gyro
i like how they buffed this dude to still be shitmon stats
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What if we give rabsca tail glow
inland gyro
good lord rabsca ZU shitter
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For fucks sake please give ariados a evo
inland gyro
its kinda insane how lokix has god awful stats but has everything else you could want
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Tail glow yanmega
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and then rabsca has nothing
ashen barn
Ariados had 1 niche
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Rabsca has revival blessing
inland gyro
webs?
ashen barn
No
Long before it got those
It was the only mon in DPP ubers to stop deo S and Darkrai
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Would tail glow yanmega be ubers
inland gyro
Would tail glow yanmega be ubers
tbh no because it would likely be easy af to counter still
ashen barn
Literally no other mon has its toolkit
inland gyro
Yanmega is...worse Volcarona
its because of speed boost
is why they asked
and tinted lens
ashen barn
Tbh
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Yes
ashen barn
Tinted lens glow could be decent
inland gyro
tbh actually yeah tail glow + speed boost + tinted lens might go too hard
ashen barn
Given the already insane output
inland gyro
because its either not getting tinted lens smash everything or its not a fast enough sweeper
ashen barn
Yeah
Even though its base speed is ok
It's not slow
It's just the biggest tera sink ever
inland gyro
volcarona meanwhile is smash everything because better stats and typing combo with moves and quiver dance covers getting speed and damage boost
inland gyro
It's not slow
i more mean its too slow to be a problem to go to ubers
inland gyro
quiver dance would be a better option for it than tail glow
ashen barn
And just bodies everything
inland gyro
because then it atleast gets a speed boost and then take tinted lens
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Giga drain for those who want to check primary stab, now tera blast, boots, etc
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I mean wouldn't tail glow + speed boost be better than tinted lens + quiver dance
For damage output
inland gyro
I mean wouldn't tail glow + speed boost be better than tinted lens + quiver danc...
nope
because tinted lens means you just ignore intended checks
tail glow is 2.5x damage, tinted lens + quiver vs type counters is 3x damage
ashen barn
Tinted lens is just better
inland gyro
the important thing for a sweeper is to not get walled
ashen barn
Because yanmega has...downright atrocious coverage
inland gyro
both STAB dealt with by steel
ashen barn
I remember playing with a friend way back then
He had yanmega, I had assault vest aggron
And...yeah
No amount of speed boosts saved it from dragon tail shuffle into rocks
inland gyro
oh and giga drain also walled by steel
inland gyro
so like running both your STAB + giga drain for recovery is yeah just walled out by steel
ashen barn
oh and giga drain also walled by steel
Yep
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It has shadow ball
ashen barn
Yeah, place any bulky steel and it is done
inland gyro
tail glow basically goes harder on non checks which is unnecessary
and yeah other issue is the thing is just incredibly fragile
unlike volcarona
inland gyro
yeah but tinted lens is what gives it that
ashen barn
Because specs tinted lens buzzes hit harder than it would appear
inland gyro
because of tinted lens
inland gyro
yeah but tinted lens covers for the bad coverage which is why its not some trash tier mon atleast
in higher tiers it would be forced to run boots so you can't even do sash cheesing
inland gyro
will say find it interesting that at times people think a pokemon fell off because of powercreep and they were standouts to people to show it but actually was due to nerfs
jolteon and deoxys speed are prime examples of actually being nerfs killing them not powercreep
inland gyro
jolteon losing ice coverage with no hidden power and deoxys speed was the best pure hazard leader and boots killed that role
nah it was hidden power ice was the big one
inland gyro
yeah but ice was the big one due to grounds
inland gyro
and yeah deoxys speed basically was just achieving nothing with boots around in ubers
ashen barn
Signal was the kick in the nuts after losing hp ice
inland gyro
fucking disgusting moveset to think about for modern
ashen barn
And this thing terrorizes gen 4 ubers
To the point there are deo S speed ties
Just to taunt the other Deo
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usually the main scenarios where powercreep is an actual issue of impacting is mostly in breakers and sweepers reliant on just raw stats
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garchomp will say isn't stat creep just so many mons appeared into its primary niches (speaks for itself when it and dragapult are top mons simultaneously in gen 8 yet people say dragapult powercrept it) but it held something very specific
ashen barn
Chomp is a mon that's fundamentally really good because of several niches at once
inland gyro
yeah but so many things over time entered into its niches
inland gyro
dragonite with tera is a reason why garchomp sweeper sucks ass
inland gyro
And pult for sweeps
dragapult isn't a sweeper
ashen barn
Also dragonite
inland gyro
dragonite and roaring moon killed it in that role though
ashen barn
Moon is just better in every possible way
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the main issue was tera allowing them both to STAB earthquake
inland gyro
top 5 in gen 8 OU
ashen barn
STAB EQ is to this day the best gift to a sweeper
inland gyro
yeah and both were also bulky dragons on top, literally intruded into garchomps sweeper set lel
ashen barn
Just because...sheer raw damage
pseudo goblet
anything I missed
ashen barn
Not really
inland gyro
but yeah dragapult mostly remains as a wallbreaker and tech pivot
pseudo goblet
aight
inland gyro
since most common set is darts/meteor, wisp/twave, u-turn and shadow ball
it does have dragon dance but its terrible in that position
ashen barn
Ig nuzlockes with it differ from competitive with it
I stopped at gen 6 competitive
And now I do nuzlockes
Pult so far has always the encounter that can do almost whatever it wants, set up and sweep mainly
pseudo goblet
… HOW did I miss this video for more than a month…
Oh right theres that Catherine video too
Lady first 
inland gyro
Ig nuzlockes with it differ from competitive with it
yeah in comp its just too fragile to pull off a dragon dance and becomes overkill in terms of speed whilst much bulkier mons which find it safer to pull off a setup exist
and d dance on them as well makes them fast enough to pull off already
also ghost isn't good on it for sweeping due to the move selection on the physical side
ashen barn
Usually you just slap a band on it
Or specs
Because that 1 turn in which it blanks a hit is the turn he gets a ko
You use it either as a knife or as an avalanche
pseudo goblet
Oh right theres that Catherine video too
Damn it Catherine stop it with the Quick Ball
Forced to use a Diggersby in DA, what is my life
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Diggergoat as they say
ashen barn
That thing with HP has more attack than Groudon
The bunny you get route 1.
Is stronger.
Than a fucking legendary beast.
Process that for a moment.
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And sadly, only huge power digger
Okay fine it does have it
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https://youtu.be/mYCCQFW1X-I?si=iAfmGw06fYUGGZXx
Oooooh Shiny Corphish looks great actually
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pseudo goblet
Likely fail run
Ofc the bat hits the Mr Mime…
Lunala Moongeist on Dive-d Jellicent and Shadow Ball on Diggers
Do that more
spice rivet
Diggersby tho?
iykyk
pseudo goblet
My respect for Diggersby is rising, alot, btw
ashen barn
My respect for Diggersby is rising, alot, btw
It's surprisingly strong
A shame it sucks, but it's strong
ashen barn
A carr-
pseudo goblet
JELLICENT WHY YOU YOU TRICK ROOM ON LAST HIT, WE WON IF YOU HIT
spice rivet
Lunala Moongeist on Dive-d Jellicent and Shadow Ball on Diggers <:WaitWhat:64505...
I found the most consistent things vs Lunala was Poison types since they resist Moonblast. But it can be bad if all they have are Poison moves since itll resist those. Bonus if you can get Drapion.
Steel types can be great as well. Bisharp can just solo them lmao
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pseudo goblet
I found the most consistent things vs Lunala was Poison types since they resist ...
Assuming npc didnt steal Drapion already…
pseudo goblet
Accupressure spam
spice rivet
Also, these are the moves they'll have
Lunala not having a Psychic move is pretty nice
pseudo goblet
Oh right, no shiny
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Run 25 it is
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Hope you catch lunala soon
ashen barn
Yeah
pseudo goblet
Might switch it from Blaziken
ashen barn
Ghost fire if alolan
ashen barn
Lightning rod and flare blitz spam
pseudo goblet
Finally, 3DS ready for next ev session
ashen barn
Or rock head in TR
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I think the world champ team also ran brick break
ashen barn
Finally, 3DS ready for next ev session
Go get them
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For a ninetales
ashen barn
I think the world champ team also ran brick break
Yes. Break screen and veil
Veil offense was popular
And having a mon that straight up hard countered a Ninetails was great
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It was basically blitz shadow bone protect and a fourth move on most
ashen barn
Yeah, what a good typing and circumstances does to a mf
pseudo goblet
I regret picking this path… it was either Druddigon or Jynx.. both bad for Lunala…
ashen barn
Ghost fire is a really good offensive type
pseudo goblet
UNFEAZENT WHAT DID YOU DIED ON?!? I ONLY SAW JYNX USE AN ICE MOVE
ashen barn
So just from team preview you knew that Coco was useless
pseudo goblet
WHY DOES JYNX HAVE DRY SKIN?!? AND MANTINE STOP HEALING HER WITH SCALD!
ashen barn
Infinite turn skips
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ashen barn
WHY DOES JYNX HAVE DRY SKIN?!? AND MANTINE STOP HEALING HER WITH SCALD!
Lips.
She has parched lips.
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You didn't even see the goated doubles strat in singles mug
Normalium Z nature power whims
ashen barn
Oh, that one
pseudo goblet
LOVELY KISS ON MAROWAK(me)!?
ashen barn
Turning a move into a fairy priority
pseudo goblet
ashen barn
And thudding into the mandibuzz
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https://tenor.com/view/kamen-rider-kamen-rider-gotchard-me-when-i-fucking-get-yo...
Me to Jynx
ashen barn
Because of prankster nerf