Pokemon

[pseudo goblet]

Ah…

[pseudo goblet]

@normal cave https://vxtwitter.com/newo22cube/status/1922748576477696159?s=46&t=q-1AmjVFLGCcEVWLfARPPw

ネヲ (@Newo22cube)

https://t.co/07SyktLehs

vxTwitter / fixvx · May 14, 2025, 8:19 PM

[normal cave]

[normal cave]

BEST CARD IN THE GAME OBTAINED

[warm sky]

Wgat tge vuck

[normal cave]

Unlimited power

The power of KNOWLEDGE

Yeah Rotomdex is actually worse than regular Pokedex, which was the worst card in the game before this set

And Pokedex came out in the first set

[warm sky]

Genuinely why does this exist

[normal cave]

Pack filler

[swift jasper]

counters spyral

[frosty ledge]

how so, being able to shuffle means you can just change your next draw no?

[fading stratus]

I wonder who'll win
Full Power Spyral or Full Power Giratina EX Darkrai EX

[frosty ledge]

ready for this deck to be the new striker? /s

[normal cave]

So does pokeball and oak, but pokedex lets you at least plan a few turns ahead

Both are awful

[frosty ledge]

eh I guess

yeah

[normal cave]

I used to run pokedex in mono cuno to plan my turns

But only because I needed 18 trainer cards

[frosty ledge]

was that after cyrus

[normal cave]

No

Set 1

On release

[frosty ledge]

ah

[mighty storm]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GrCa2QyWEAAmjtl?format=jpg&name=medium

Oh?

free upgrade

[pseudo goblet]

Oh no I forgot switch 2 is june

[placid junco]

Session 1 of Mariomon nuzelocke done

Team so far is
Pluto the Bob-omb
Ceres the Antrouper
Orcus the Koopa Troopa
Makemake the Broulder
Eris the Thwimp
And a spiny who’s name escapes me rn

We’ve had some close calls including a 1 HP survive already
But we’re deathless atm

[spice rivet]

https://youtu.be/Uz0S9BgAbO0?si=b6-56mhJYoMqT2jY

[ashen barn]

Nice going

As a fellow Mariomon nuzlocker with a completed run - Antrouper, bob-omb, broulder are insane. Casino encounter has to be sparky. Electrify + volt switch + immunity is too strong

You also get a bullet bill guaranteed

[placid junco]

My only beef with the game so far is that the castle gardens are considered the same “route” as peaches castle by the games nuzelocke settings

[mighty storm]

third sun kitty

oof the heliosk, rigged

[normal cave]

Wonder Scam

[warm sky]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-tcg-oricorio-yellow-pokemon-bird-mustard-bird-gif-16821747928125171016

[normal cave]

https://tenor.com/view/oricorio-pokémon-tcg-pocket-alola-sun-and-moon-gif-7959837822816665003

[swift jasper]

is that oricorio default dancing?

[mighty storm]

I saw someone spell mewtwo as mew-tew today

💀

[outer eagle]

Mew Tuah

[swift jasper]

i'm banning ryuji

[viral ingot]

Honestly, pretty good shiny.

[pseudo goblet]

https://vxtwitter.com/satopoken/status/1923410852247454138?s=46&t=q-1AmjVFLGCcEVWLfARPPw

gabr (@satopoken)

rowlet deciding that meltan is it's baby is so cute!

THEY ARE BEST FRIENDS! 💛 https://t.co/6qGtgrjMXn

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vxTwitter / fixvx · May 16, 2025, 4:10 PM

[void herald]

they're just little guys...

[polar osprey]

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Ftop-68-qualifiers-of-380-entrant-tournament-3rd-largest-of-v0-m8q19d92b81f1.png%3Fwidth%3D640%26crop%3Dsmart%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3Da3fa6298ed118a7bf5f34c0cc94f8c3dfaf44849

I knew tapu lele was broken

now people just need to find out about the other oricorio to shove in the deck

[frosty ledge]

about time

in a meta where the best Pokemon have 4 energy attached this shit nukes

also speaking of oricorio can I get a dance react for my shiny party birb

[mighty storm]

Damn they really out here making Switch 2 more optimal for shiny hunting

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GrEAellXcAARxiX?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

[pseudo goblet]

Nah that pic is totally fake

SV only shows 15 pokemon in your radius

[placid junco]

Debating save scumming in mariomon so I can take advantage of the ||guaranteed shiny bullet bills||

[pseudo goblet]

https://x.com/tatumi079sub/status/1923317510956544411?s=46&t=q-1AmjVFLGCcEVWLfARPPw

辰巳@イラスト用 (@tatumi079sub) on X

ﾌﾟｶｰ
#ポケモン #ポケモンイラスト

X · May 16, 2025, 10:00 AM

[fading stratus]

Tf is that a pokemaniac

Lmao

[placid junco]

I just lost 3 party members to a single NORMAL NPC BATTLE

What the actual fuck mariomon

[placid junco]

I don’t think I’d have committed to the nuzelocke settings if I knew how fuckass volatile this game is

[ashen barn]

What world?

Because yes the game can be volatile at times

Some encounters are insanely good tho

Bob-omb is decent early and late game
Porcupuff, being a guaranteed encounter on basically every fishing route (+ black sludge recovery and baneful bunker) is insanely strong
Bullet bill imo is an extraordinary encounter because of pivoting

Just saying, this was the E4 team

5 out of 6 were guaranteed encounters

[normal cave]

Mecha maid obtained

[placid junco]

2-2

[ashen barn]

Oh, yeah, it's tough therw

Keep a grass type

[placid junco]

I would if I had any

[ashen barn]

Or a foo (ice fairy)

Admittedly foo peaks there

And that's it

[placid junco]

I would if I had one
I got spiny in 2-1 and fighterfly in 2-2

[ashen barn]

Fighterfly is INSANE

Spiny too

Fighterfly is a SS tier encounter

[placid junco]

Spiny was one of the victims of the koopa grunt with the bully

Because apparently rollout isn’t allowed to miss against me

[ashen barn]

Ok, overall not anything too deadly

Rn you need a plan against Daisy

And the bullet bills are perfect

[placid junco]

Yeah
All I have for her atm are bullet bill and fighterfly

[ashen barn]

Which are great

What's your starter?

[placid junco]

Bob-omb

I did buy the podoboo but it went down will-o-wisping the bully

[spice rivet]

https://bsky.app/profile/somerdrop.bsky.social/post/3lpehizbfzc2m

somerdrop (@somerdrop.bsky.social)

Ko-fi request

Reposts

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[fading stratus]

[spice rivet]

https://bsky.app/profile/sintrybest.bsky.social/post/3lpepe65ol22i

Sin (@sintrybest.bsky.social)

Easy Cosplay 🤣

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Bluesky · May 17, 2025, 2:01 PM

[viral ingot]

X marks the spot.

🏴‍☠️

[fading stratus]

❌

[fading stratus]

https://youtu.be/Jbs8Yk851_8

Oh hey the Toronto vid dropped

[normal cave]

THE GOAT

WOLFEY CON PERISH

[warm sky]

https://tenor.com/view/wofley-con-perish-marcofiero-marco-sylva-perish-song-wolfey-con-perish-no-gif-1449861153719602901

[magic thunder]

y'all ever think about how Sirfetch'd learns his signature attack at level 70 for some reason?

[spice rivet]

https://youtu.be/hs-sOPExp_k?si=3EhqpQ-pGh3oJooA

[mighty storm]

all for physical fighting type hyper beam

[sacred hatch]

Wearing a shirt w/ mimikyu on it and someone called it pikachu

I guess the disguise works

[fading stratus]

Everything is a pikachu

You don't know the Pikachu theorem smh

Holy fuck giratina topped Melbourne regionals

[tacit sphinx]

There’s an exhibition in a Japanese natural history museum comparing fossil Pokemon to their real-life counterparts.

@placid junco I seem to recall you liking this one

I really dig the Pokemon-style artwork of real animals

Here y’all go, virtual tour

https://my.matterport.com/show/?m=P9WCbyCBGBM

[fading stratus]

Pretty cool stuff

[young river]

I just want Decidueye

[fading stratus]

You know what you need? More lunala

[polar osprey]

biggest tournament this season at over 2.8k players

as expected consistency was king

with zard and solgaleo that need their stage 2s asap doig super poorly

the gengar deck is worth looking into

2 that joined topped and one made to top 4

but might just be lele and oricorio being the best cards in the format

[outer eagle]

Focus Blast's 70% accuracy starts looking like 7% when you miss 5 in a row

[normal cave]

Focus Miss moment

[fading stratus]

Calyrex Shadow Rider Koraidon wins Melbourne Regionals beating Calyrex Shadow Rider Terapagos in the finals

7/8 teams in top 8 had Incineroar and 5/8 teams had Shadow Rider

[normal cave]

Koraidon CC vs Terapagos rearing its head

[frosty ledge]

well best new cards

gira still clears by the looks of it

doing gallade's job at one energy is crazy tho

[long stone]

https://vxtwitter.com/beastochahin/status/1923825695387484626?s=19

Mohamed Chahin (@beastochahin)

Doing the bare minimum to animate this 😂😅
#pokemon #blender #b3d https://t.co/UAFG0PBYYX

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vxTwitter / fixvx · May 17, 2025, 7:39 PM

Can we get a full pokemon game like this

Ahghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Don't u dare say BDSP

[sonic inlet]

Yeah normal gengar looks interesting

[fading stratus]

Utrecht regionals

[spice rivet]

Swordfish "beating" the fraud allegations

[fading stratus]

also shadow rider ig

[spice rivet]

Koraidon found dead in a ditch

[fading stratus]

koraidon did win melbourne regs

[spice rivet]

Ya, def just joking. But this tournament feels like everyone just pivoted towards Caly S and Miraidon

[normal cave]

One single zacian

[fading stratus]

but there were only 9 koraidon in day 2 of the tournament and neither topped

[spice rivet]

Just kind of a metagame development as opposed to a true fall off

[fading stratus]

there were 6 zacian in day 2

[fading stratus]

yeah

I think the format will evolve more to be hostile to miraidon again

like last format

where miraidon was nonexistent towards the end

[spice rivet]

And SOLGALEO WILL RISE TO THE TOP

[outer eagle]

smh suffering from success

[warm sky]

who

[fading stratus]

Swordfish is basically Kyogre Zacian

Since you know Sword and Fish

[fading stratus]

I've been actually thinking about solgaleo

Maybe Miraidon Solgaleo is good

Solgaleo is a ice resist Vs ice rider

[spice rivet]

Also, just on my side questing rn, but I got a route for a 0 Speed Shiny Alpha Teddiursa in PLA pog. Need to do that tn

[fading stratus]

What do you wanna build

Koala?

[spice rivet]

Just to also have a 0 IV Ursa incase I need it as a TR attacker

[fading stratus]

Do get a 0 speed torkoal too

[fading stratus]

It's still a insanely good TR attacker regardless of being good or not rn

[swift jasper]

i love edits like this

[normal cave]

Peak

[normal cave]

She

[warm sky]

NOW PUT HER IN THE BAG

[normal cave]

https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/5m3bry/if_lillie_can_carry_a_cosmoem_by_gamesteraxela/

https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/2555348

[frosty ledge]

get in the bag nebby!

[frosty ledge]

oops that image didn't load lol

btw what's the point of carnivine arceus builds? surely there are way better ways to get 50 damage basic attacks

[viral ingot]

She's just jealous you got so much experience.

[mighty storm]

2nd copy of Lillie and a fancy Sandyghast @pseudo goblet

Also Nebby in the same pack (I have a playset already) as my 2nd Lillie is a funny coincidence

[pseudo goblet]

Ooooh I didnt know that Sandygast card exist

[spice rivet]

@pseudo goblet @fading stratus

[pseudo goblet]

Giant gummy bear!!

Also man PLA players really wouldn’t be seen as to have played it if they dont have a Shiny Teddiursa

[fading stratus]

Zane when are you going to hunt 0 IV ursaluna

[pseudo goblet]

Which one lol

[fading stratus]

Regular is fine

[spice rivet]

https://docs.google.com/document/u/2/d/e/2PACX-1vQSpV5XYwVYu5nflyx0fVZdvF1iX4HUz32A_d8Wm79ctEOCrkJRTHEHJjwaou04Spb4CMvCuFMnnrua/pub

Heres the guide for it

Also Ill invite you to the Rotom Labs discord where they have the bot for it

[pseudo goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-spongebob-reading-meme-spongebob-eyeball-reading-two-pages-gif-8397699332299369323

[spice rivet]

Def check their discord, they can help a lot too

[placid junco]

Grinding up a cheep-cheep in Mariomon just so I have SOMETHING super effective for gym 2

[viral ingot]

[normal cave]

Beautiful!

https://tenor.com/view/lunala-pokemon-deep-light-moon-gif-10511033

[sonic inlet]

Ok wow deci meowscarada is very popular rn

[spice rivet]

https://pokepast.es/d8434df77b503575

Spit balling that Miraidon + Solgaleo team idea. I think something like this is good starting point

[fading stratus]

You probably go like
Solgaleo
Miraidon
Farigiraf
Whimsicott
Iron Hands
Ursaluna

Maybe

Not sure about farigiraf

Could be Urshifu probs

Or if you play incin you probs play uturn av
Breaking focus sash is very good with uturn

Might even be worth over parting shot

[spice rivet]

AV is already on the Miraidon too

https://pokepast.es/05c09dd4a01986d2

[frosty ledge]

yeah it's really good into gira and one shots darkrai

also decidueye is just really nice for finishing off anything that tries to retreat/is the better attacker vs non-ex pokemon besides oricorio

and 1 retreat cost on both stage 2s means oricorio can't punish you nearly as well

and weed cat is just really good for consistency with rare candy

[sonic inlet]

An actually good basic mon actually helps too

[frosty ledge]

yeah, and the fact that their attacks are both low energy, and meow doesn't give 2 points on death

it all just lines up perfectly

[fading stratus]

I was thinking more of trick room Solgaleo and discharge miraidon

So you can discharge Infront of Ursaluna

And why goggles on incin

When you have electric terrain

[spice rivet]

Truu

[fading stratus]

A tera type I keep thinking is tera fairy on incin

The idea is basically you aren't weak to koraidon/lunala even after you tera

And can't ghost because CSR is like the best restricted rn

The fact that CSR is so good even when the metagame is very hostile to it says a lot about it tbh

[pseudo goblet]

@warm sky https://x.com/rdokkn/status/1924436255825441125?s=46&t=q-1AmjVFLGCcEVWLfARPPw

sn (@rdokkn) on X

ホ°ケットモンス夕ー　アルティメット陽キャ赤／俺らあれと対とかマジかよ青

X · May 19, 2025, 12:05 PM

Sonamy energy

Also Im getting the feeling poor Latios has allergy, mood

Im not sure, consider it my own headcanon lol

[mighty storm]

I completely forgot when I got this second lunala

[fading stratus]

Apparently eviolite scraggy got second in Thailand master ball

[normal cave]

[fading stratus]

The idea is it underspeeds ice rider so it's faster in TR to use coaching or faster than opposing Ice rider to use foul play

[normal cave]

Ah, a meta call

[fading stratus]

Well it doesn't have to be

It a decent Mon in a ice rider team regardless because it gets intimidate, fake out and slow coaching

[normal cave]

I see

Passive-ass mon

[fading stratus]

Not necessarily

It gets helping hand

So you can "attack through your partner"

Or well y'know coaching

[normal cave]

Fp/fake/helping/coaching

On a dark type so no prankster encore

Aight

[fading stratus]

You play foul play over coaching or hh

Oh you said fp

You probs play protect as a move

Probs idk tera fire or sth

[placid junco]

Just had my 4th death in my mariomon run
My koopa Troopa beaten by Ashley’s mad piano

[placid junco]

I definitely evolved my Gushen way too early lmao

[fading stratus]

A weak (evolved Mon) is still better than a dead (unevolved Mon)

[swift jasper]

Level 69

[pseudo goblet]

Nice

[normal cave]

Endeavor owo

This person cooked

[warm sky]

@normal cave @fading stratus

[swift jasper]

[normal cave]

[fading stratus]

LMAO

[warm sky]

ElectricWindGirlfriend is too GOATed

[spice rivet]

Also after looking at the damage calcs, I think we need to give Solgaleo a Coaching partner lmao

[spice rivet]

Maybe Calyrex S isn't the correct reference point, but still.

[normal cave]

Caly-S is a fine ref point since it is so frail, but you still miss the one-shot

[fading stratus]

calyrex s isnt really frail at all

it has incineroar levels of bulk

[fading stratus]

also we already have ursh so

that should be fine

scarf ursh with coaching

[normal cave]

Insane offense, absurd speed, good bulk, what the fuck

[fading stratus]

Calyrex S is very good
its just that your perception of it is skewed by low ladder people

I've seen Caly S survive Miraidon's Electro Drift

albeit not in terrain

[spice rivet]

Ya, for some reason in my brain I think of Caly S the same as Flutter Mane/Iron Bundle when in fact its stupid dumb bulky.

I hate this horse

I want them turned into glue

[fading stratus]

also why tf do they have unnerve

like you cant even run sitrus in stuff

or resist berries

like ghost resist berry in lunala

[normal cave]

Free yveltal to turn honse into glue

[fading stratus]

csr was still vroken in the last gen where we had yveltal

and no tera

[normal cave]

Hmm

Idk then

How to kill honse

[fading stratus]

if chi yu and pao live next gen

then it'll be fine

since csr cant tera out of weakness

[normal cave]

Champions will have tera tho

And CSR will probably be one of the best abusers of the gimmick next gen too

[fading stratus]

it'll probably be battle mechanics based on formats or sth

they might not even do major tournaments in champions

[normal cave]

Unless gimmick is just megas in which case CSR will just be good

[fading stratus]

fun fact

ice rider was nerfed going into this gen

[normal cave]

Ye

Glacial lance lost 10 bp

https://youtu.be/NV-p_-OvUnA?si=tAK3DBPgQBkjxi2K

[fading stratus]

I think we should nerf koraidon miraidon to 1.1x instead of 1.33x
it'll be brutal for koraidon if there's no tera tho

but

and the signature moves of horses should probs be dropped to 110

and idk change their ability to just moxie and not moxie + unnerve

that'll probs be fine

or drop accuracy to 85 but noone likes dropped accuracy

electro drift could probably also go to 95 or 90

[spice rivet]

Why tf does Neutralizing gas NOT TURN OFF THEIR ABILITES

Like you went out of your way to nerf the Protosynthesis mons for this, but the Horses get special treatment smh

[normal cave]

The horse costs dlc money to obtain

[warm sky]

I agree with moxie's take of switching unnerve for pressure

Because genuinely the horses are the worst designed legendaries

Visually? Boring

Gameplay wise? Boring

[fading stratus]

I'm just pissed because I tried to theorize resist berry lunala the other day and realised unnerve exists

[fading stratus]

and miraidon

fuck miraidon

and urshifu while we're at it

[fading stratus]

yeah....

[warm sky]

Honestly, most gen 8/9 powercreep isn't even creative which is sad

[normal cave]

Yeah fuck ursh

[spice rivet]

Ya, the Urshis need a big nerf too

Tbh, Miraidon at least doesn't feel as busted as the Calys to me. At least it has much more counterplay.

[normal cave]

Mirai gets a pass because it is a good sammich lizard and I love it

Other than that tho, the mon hits way too hard, even a volt switch chunks like crazy while keeping momentum up

[placid junco]

a tale as old as time

[normal cave]

Randbats moment

[ashen barn]

A minior with double stats is fairly terrifying

One once got double omniboost from AP in a nuzlocke

And...yeah I wiped

[fading stratus]

I've lost a few mons to minior too

[pseudo goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/minior-pokemon-scarlet-violet-shiny-gif-8098869074577899210

💡 , they should make a second tier shiny similar in PokeRogue, we need a white color Minior

[mighty storm]

Rayquaza's konpeito snack

https://tenor.com/view/rayquaza-pokémon-sprite-floating-gif-16257258

[fading stratus]

man I wish base ray was good

[fading stratus]

Honestly for me mirai is the worst offender

because CSR is kinda "balanced" by incineroar existing

[fading stratus]

and Ice Rider can't hold a offensive item because of you guessed it incineroar

[spice rivet]

Doing the 0 Speed Girafarig manip now pog

[fading stratus]

do 0 atk 0 speed

holy shit raichu goated

[spice rivet]

2018535 advances

33642 seconds

[fading stratus]

surely you'd do 0 atk too no?

[spice rivet]

9.3 HOURS

lmaooo

[fading stratus]

ig with electric seed 0 atk doesnt matter that much

[spice rivet]

Thats for 0 Atk 0 Speed Shiny

[pseudo goblet]

How many phases so far

[spice rivet]

808703 is the closest that acceptable. 5 Atl, 0 Speed

[fading stratus]

how do you even determine exactly 33642 seconds

[spice rivet]

3.75 hours

[pseudo goblet]

800k phases????

[spice rivet]

Each advance is 1 frame, the game runs at 60 FPS

[fading stratus]

ah gotcha

does looking at bag count as steps

[spice rivet]

Nah, I need to learn about the paintings now rip

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDjyv9UJgAc&t=1159s

I may just go and do this in Heart Gold

[fading stratus]

is it easier there

[spice rivet]

For sure, since Emerald RNG is "Fixed" and so reseting wont change the clock, I'll still be 3 hours away from an encounter and I don't feel like learning all of the super technical ropes of the manips/arbitrary code execution

[fading stratus]

ah gotcha

[spice rivet]

To put it into perspective: Shiny Girafarig in HGSS with 2 0 IVs is as low as 224 advances

less than 3 minutes

I just have a very unlucky Trainer ID and Secret ID combo in Emerald

[fading stratus]

did you get it

[spice rivet]

I stopped for tn, Ill do it tomorrow. Trying to sleep early but insomnia is kicking my butt rip

[pseudo goblet]

Try play a video as white noise

[fading stratus]

yeah that surprisingly helps a lot

saying from experience

[pseudo goblet]

Then you wake up with yt for some reason play 3 different HOURS long videos watched lol

Its like they knew you were sleeping and consistently pull that shit

[spice rivet]

I love the white noise from a fan during the summer, but its still too cold here for that

[slim birch]

Wonder pick coming through

[ashen barn]

Meanwhile, I started a emerald rogue nuzlocke...Kanto style. I'm only allowed pokemon from Kanto, only Kanto, no cross-evolutions.

[normal cave]

Dragonite time

[ashen barn]

Shiny puke green dnite

The problem is that...dragonite vs gen 1 is awful

You know

Ice beams

And blizzards

[normal cave]

True

Tauros time

[ashen barn]

Modern mechanics

Tauros is only decent

[normal cave]

Oh

Snorlax time...?

[ashen barn]

Provided I get it since routes are type-based

[normal cave]

Oh wait I forgor

Arcanine

[ashen barn]

So I have the choice between Tauros and Snorlax

Arcanine can be fenomenal

[normal cave]

Arcanine is one of the best gen 1 mons

Arca, nidoking

[ashen barn]

1st gym Giovanni

Which is good

[normal cave]

Sandshrew gym

[ashen barn]

He doesn't have permasand

And I have...yeah dragon rage dratini

Usual Onix whiffing rock tomb

Rhyhorn as next encounter, I'll take it

OH MY GOD

Random grunt has Kanga Tauros before 2nd badge

Said Tauros has body slam eq

Holy shit if that slam had crit or parad

[fading stratus]

lmao

[ashen barn]

You can't throw a 490 minmaxed bst with basically perfect coverage before 2nd gym

Attempt 1 is done

Crit ember + burn into dragon rage

All while trying to flee because species clause

Attempt 2 saw me choosing a strong encounter

Over ghastly

FLAREON

Ig it's ok for early game

Wish toxic protect and ember, time to stall

[ashen barn]

I random traded everything away
Arcanine got and also...gyarados

These 2 will be the backbone of the team going forward

The reason why I chose to trade is because I didn't have anything, and...dragonite is the only dragon in Kanto. It's guaranteed later on, when it's not dead weight

[fading stratus]

you got like 2 of the best kanto mons

[ashen barn]

Also this way I got a ghastly, which is simply a phenomenal mon all around

[fading stratus]

assuming its intimidate

[ashen barn]

They both are

Gyara is timid nature tho

[fading stratus]

flash fire arca wouldn't have been the worst

[ashen barn]

But solid 28 atk 31 speed iv

[fading stratus]

but arca's learnset is shit

[ashen barn]

Also I got a happiny

[fading stratus]

hope you get snorlax

[ashen barn]

I GOT BETTER

Shellder

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does it get ss

[ashen barn]

Yes

It's gen 8 mechanics but gen 1 dex

[fading stratus]

ah

[ashen barn]

I now have 2 intimidators, 2 sweepers, and a crippling electric weakness

Also timid gyara and adamant ghastly

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maybe you'll roll lightning rod rhydon

rock head is probs better here

[ashen barn]

Any ground type is perfect

[fading stratus]

it has like piss spA

gen 1 has like 2 ground types

golem line and rhyhorn line

[ashen barn]

Sandslash and marowak too

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onix doesn;t exist

[ashen barn]

And onix but onix is onix

[fading stratus]

sandslash also has piss learnset

but I did forget those 2

[ashen barn]

You get the gen 8 learnset here

So it's not AS BAD

[fading stratus]

I actaully dont know its modern learnset

havent used it in a modern game

[ashen barn]

Also physical special split means I now have a gyarados with waterfall at lv21

[fading stratus]

crunch is also good

[ashen barn]

Now I only need to evolve ghastly

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do you ever give up waterfall for aqua tail

[ashen barn]

And get a water stone and an oval stone

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it feels so bad because its 90

[ashen barn]

Never

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what level does it get d dance again

[ashen barn]

Aqua tail is only slightly more powerful but it's way too risky

[ashen barn]

Like 38

I need an electric type and a ground type

That, or a jolteon

[fading stratus]

jolteon is just vroken

[ashen barn]

Starmie is also cracked

Boltbeam with water to boot

[fading stratus]

honestly tentacruel should also be a pdecent water type

[ashen barn]

Yeah

Main issue is that there's not a single dark type in Kanto

So nothing really sponges knock off

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steel is your biggest worry I feel
Since only steel type is like magneton

[ashen barn]

Yes

But steel attacks aren't a concern

If I get to Chansey with Happiny, I will solve basically most of the issues with defense

[fading stratus]

ig thats fair

[ashen barn]

2 intimidators and Chansey are insane

Also Chansey and Gengar are good

[fading stratus]

and you have gyara ig for ground resist

[ashen barn]

Yeah

I'm definitely scared of ice types and psychics

Freeze dry and psyshock

[fading stratus]

marowak would be a decent physical tank

just not for freeze dry

but chansey should eat freeze dry anyway

[ashen barn]

I'd rather have an electric tbh

Volt switch is that strong

Also, if I can manage to get Cloyster in safely, I know I can sweep everything

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whats raichu's speed again

[ashen barn]

110

Insanely frail tho

And doesn't have much in the way of resistances or attacks

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electabuzz would be pretty good if you get eviolite

[ashen barn]

Fun fact
With Kanto dex, Electivire is treated as non-existent

They thought about the most obvious strat

Otherwise eviolite Chansey would be insane

Physical and special sponge

[fading stratus]

yeah

oh yeah forgot a obvious ground type

nidos

[normal cave]

That sprite looks like Nebby

[fading stratus]

that's just a wire.......

[normal cave]

https://tenor.com/view/nebby-cosmog-gif-20157449

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yeah no that just looks like Linking Cord

[normal cave]

Ok

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Man I'm looking at Kanto dex and it makes butterfree look broken

[ashen barn]

I mean

Even with standard games, butterfree is broken

[fading stratus]

its fine

[ashen barn]

It has been since the 3rd gen

[fading stratus]

its broken early game but falls off mid game

[ashen barn]

Yeah

But it's still fast enough to deal with several threats until late game

Fast sleep is that strong

JINX

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jinx isnt awful

[ashen barn]

Gimme gimme gimme

[ashen barn]

It's like one of the best mons in Kanto exactly

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ig fast ice type is pgood

I've actually never used jynx

[ashen barn]

Ice psychic with sleep move

[fading stratus]

now I think about it

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yeah but sweet kiss has a piss accuracy

[ashen barn]

It's a bonkers mon

[ashen barn]

75

Not the worst ever

People spam sleep powder roserade in gen 4

[fading stratus]

I really really hate inaccurate moves

[ashen barn]

And here it comes

The most busted setup mon in gen 1

It's shell smash cloyster

Having access to spikes, toxic spikes, rapid spin, insane defenses and shell smash skill link, this thing is better than dragonite

Especially since dragonite doesn't have tera

[pseudo goblet]

Bruial should play PLA, somehow lol

[ashen barn]

Gg Juan with double shell smash Cloyster

Perfectly calculated LO recoil into a beautiful kill with crunch

Permarain water gym, deathless. 4th badge down and I got a Nidoqueen

[normal cave]

No

I don't have a switch

[ashen barn]

Gengar is so good in Kanto, holy

Sabrina in psychic terrain

And unfortunately this is where Gengar also ends its usefulness

And also happiny, never got a single oval stone for it

Ok it might be throwing a lot but I gotta respect tanking a focus blast as a happiny

Yeah nevermind I wipe anyway

Scarf mime

And the thing about psychic spam in Kanto is that only priority saves you
GUESS WHO HAS PSYCHIC TERRAIN PERMANENTLY SET

Nobody survives a hit, let alone 2. It's gen 7 terrain. It's a choice specs.

I knew I was dead when Sabrina didn't show up in first 3 gym leaders. Thing is, nobody in Kanto gets terrains or a terrain move. And 0 dark types mean...yeah psychic terrain expanding force is unethical

[pseudo goblet]

I did say somehow

Just dont know the other way around

[fading stratus]

you know what's good against psyspam?
Kantonian Incineroar

[pseudo goblet]

RK9

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fun fact

pokemon's pairing website is called rk9

[pseudo goblet]

You mean like a dating app??

Or pairing as in??

[fading stratus]

no like tournament pairing

[pseudo goblet]

Gotcha

[fading stratus]

[swift jasper]

I thought this was ygo chat

K9 brainworms

[fading stratus]

stinky deck

that art makes me never wanna play the deck

[swift jasper]

They used the same background art for all the maindecks and rota

[fading stratus]

yeah

that's new levels of laziness

[swift jasper]

Anyways back on topic

Gastrodon is god

Grass doesn't exist

[fading stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/sunkern-pokemon-happy-jump-gif-23470055

[swift jasper]

Bro posted the worst grass type ever

[fading stratus]

that's the joke

[swift jasper]

[pseudo goblet]

Ughhhhhhhhhh don’t visit me till I shiny hunt you eventually lol

Legitimately cant even easy outbreak Sunkern itself

Only Sunflora outbreak

[pseudo goblet]

Also yeah pretty sure thats shiny, I think

[fading stratus]

just use masuda method

[pseudo goblet]

I forgot the exact numbers already but mate it took over a thousand for the last one

[pseudo goblet]

Good thing I kept them till Im using them, also yeah I totally bought a 4th counter lmao

[fading stratus]

whats the counter on the big black chicken

well red ig

after its shiny

[pseudo goblet]

Lunala??

17 apparentl- wtf

Ider what this 397th one is suppose to be

Oh Dialga, so thats done

Yeahhhh I need to run faster with Lunala…

[fading stratus]

after chicken

feesh

also 0 speed ursaluna

[ashen barn]

Uhhh

Lost Gengar early

Basically the Gengar I caught had 6 speed ivs
So the opposing Charizard hit a crit fire blast on 1 hp
And 2 out of 16 rolls killed.

What really hurts is that I have a Chansey. All I needed was swap gengar, tank the blast, swap scyther in on focus blast, kill

At least this next gym is Kanto bugs, which are...yeah

[fading stratus]

venomoth is goated smh

[ashen barn]

Next gym is water type

I lead sturdy golem

Sunny day into Lapras that has freeze dry

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that's the freeze dry theorem

if its an ice type it'll have freeze dry

[ashen barn]

I mean

Lapras has freeze dry, perish song, surf and thunderbolt

Not exactly a Gengar replacement but you know

[fading stratus]

oh you mean your lapras

I read that as them leading lapras vs you

[ashen barn]

Meanwhile there's a banded seaking spamming knock off

And last is tentacruel, thank god

[fading stratus]

do you perma lose your items after knock

[ashen barn]

No, thankfully

Rain dish tentacruel has nothing on Chansey

[fading stratus]

no toxic black sludge?

[ashen barn]

He got me with scald

And I chose to stay burned

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ah

[ashen barn]

I purposely switched Chansey into scalds during the fight

Now that it's over, ability capsule back natural cure

So. For some reason, EXCLUSIVE TO KANTO, dragon is Ice, water, dragon and rock combined

With a specs Poliwrath

Gg

The 10%

[fading stratus]

they were cooking with specs poliwrath

[ashen barn]

Scarf dragonite already decimated half the team

Dragonite and lapras dead, golem and weezing low

Dragonite actually got killed on the switch

Max roll nite outrage crit. All while confused.

That nite didn't hit itself once

Chansey is a god btw

She's soloing the team

NOT THE LAST MON DEWGONG

All dewgongs in this game are demons

Max bulk, rain dance, rest, hydration, WHIRLPOOL AND PERISH SONG

Their sole objective is to use whirlpool and perish

Avoided further losses

Last gym brock

I don't have a single solitary rock resistance nor a way to hit the rocks for more than 75 power giga drain

I also sport 2 rock weak mons

My hope is in the revived Gengar

Rocks up, sun to avoid chip damage, specs drain

Weezing and Gengar are unironically carrying

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weezing is a very good mon

as long as you dont face a ground type

then it just drops

unless it has levitate

[ashen barn]

It has levi

[fading stratus]

weezing chansey would be a pretty good pair

[ashen barn]

And now for my favorite part
Gengar sweep

Nevermind Agatha has her own Gengar

[fading stratus]

is it e4

[ashen barn]

Yes

I'm bringing a mothim to the E4

Apparently her Gengar is specs

Final team is something that wouldn't look too out of place for a team Rocket-styled run minus zubat and rattata

Golem
Weezing
Gengar
Venomoth (not Mothim, sorry)
Chansey
Scyther

[fading stratus]

guts rat would be fine

idk if you can prepoison

adamant guts hyper fang ohkos half the shit in kanto

[ashen barn]

You can but also can't

Because last routes are full of stuff that ohkos

Moth hits the powder

+3 quiver dance tinted lens buzzes

[fading stratus]

tinted lens venomoth is surprisingly very good

[ashen barn]

OHKOS the Gengar

Ok, we win

Last is a tentacruel that instadrops to buzz

I have a chance at a legendary

If it's who I think it is, the run is over

Nothing in Kanto stands up to mewtwo

[fading stratus]

chansey should survive 2 psystrike

[ashen barn]

There's no eviolite

OH GOD WILD DUGTRIO

Please tell me it's not what I think it is

Thank god

Legendary, snow in overworld, I leave

I'm not interested in Articuno with modern mechanics

Lorelei

That's the matchup I was worried about the whole time

[fading stratus]

hail or snow?

[ashen barn]

Hail

[fading stratus]

hey that's atleast better than snow

[ashen barn]

Not really

Golem got koed

Hail goes before leftovers

Not only I lost my only rock resist and stealth rock and sunny day

I'm now under permahail

It did do 1 important thing before going down, set up rocks

Great, jinx with nasty plot

Everything here has ice beam and freeze dry and blizzard

+4 crit psyshock into chansey, I lose

And a swift swim golduck using the rain set up by dewgong

Gengar dead

[fading stratus]

+4 crit psyshock could kill like 3 chanseys

[ashen barn]

I have 0 things to reset weather

That rain is still up

And it's a rain boosted hydro with life orb

Somehow won but I lost half the team midway through

Set up, defense, and sweeper

And the replacements aren't good

Unless you want regular beedrill as Gengar replacement

Btw average trainer now has zapdos

A specs thunder zapdos

[fading stratus]

dont you get legendaries as well

[ashen barn]

Nope

I get beedrill from gen 1

My god rhydon

I lost scyther

Either eq or stone edge

I wiped

[fading stratus]

do a gen 5 run

[ashen barn]

Killed rhydon but then...

Mewtwo last mon

[warm sky]

Got invited for a server I'm in for a fun like Gym Leader/E4 challenge thing as the first E4 member

But since I joined last I got Fire, Rock, Ground, Psychic, Grass, Bug or Water left

[ashen barn]

Water

Or ground

[fading stratus]

is it singles or doubles

singles I assume

[ashen barn]

Fire is also decent but it's not perfect

[warm sky]

Singles, level 50-55 for me

RULES FOR TEAM BUILDING

1.) No Legendary, Mythical or Uber ranked Pokemon

2.) No gimmicks (mega evolution, z-moves, gigantamax, etc.)

3.) The first Gym Leader can have 2 Pokemon, Gym Leaders 2-4 can have 3, Leaders 5-7 can have 4. Gym Leader 8, and all Elite 4 members can have 5. Only the Champion gets a full 6

4.) Gym Leader 1 has a single Pokemon at level 12, and a second one at 9. All subsequent Leaders add +5 to those levels. Elite 4 members will have team members ranging from level 50-58 depending on selected order. Champion has Team members ranging from 60-65

5.) Leaders 1-4 may not have held items. Leaders 5-8 may have a single passive held item for their ace and Berrys/herbs/etc for the rest. Elites and the Champion have no limits on Held Item selection, but may not repeat held items on their team.

6.) Remember this is more casual than anything, so try not to be too mean while building. Bonus points if you can stick to a sub-theme within your Type

[ashen barn]

Water is by far strongest monotype

[fading stratus]

yeah you probs go water

[warm sky]

It's not about being the strongest tbf

[fading stratus]

you can rain

and do the funnies

[warm sky]

Also obv some mons like Gyarados are already claimed

[ashen barn]

It's about making everyone suffer

Rain is stupid strong

[fading stratus]

lead golissopod

with first impression

[warm sky]

I do love Pelliper

[ashen barn]

Mons like Ludicolo and Kingdra are deceptively insane under rain

Also you get mons to cover your only weaknesses

Pelli checks grass with hurricanes

And swampert or quag gets the electrics

[warm sky]

Checked, Gyarados, Jellicent and Feraligatr are the only water types already claimed

So honestly free reign

Also note that while it says no legendary/mythicals, the poison gym leader has poipole

So I think UBs are on the table

[fading stratus]

so booster bundle?

[ashen barn]

Pelli, Swampert, Ludicolo, Kabutops, Barraskewda and probably bundle for a paradox / araquanid

[fading stratus]

honestly how about you lead palafin and flip turn always
it could be your "ace" yami

[ashen barn]

Also Palafin, yeah

Idea is damp rock pelli

[warm sky]

Tho tbh I'd have gone bug if it wasn't for someone already having Lokix lmao

[ashen barn]

And just overwhelm from the get-go

[fading stratus]

swift swim seismitoad

[ashen barn]

Araquanid under rain is basically impossible to check

[fading stratus]

seismitoad is goated

[ashen barn]

Rain+water bubble+STAB

I don't need to elaborate, do I?

[warm sky]

True

[ashen barn]

Alternatively, Dracovish

Just fishious rends under rain

[warm sky]

No Ubers

Or else I'd just

Yeah

Vish

[ashen barn]

Then araquanid or something similar

[fading stratus]

can you mega

or is it gen 9

[ashen barn]

Just stupid damage

[ashen barn]

No gimmicks

[warm sky]

WAIT

LAST RESPECTS ISN'T BANNED

[ashen barn]

I hear the bell toll

[warm sky]

I THINK WE KNOW WHAT TO MAKE THE ACE BOYS

[fading stratus]

go Kingdra or drednaw or seismitoad as swift swim user

[ashen barn]

Basculegion

We sweep

[fading stratus]

swift swim or adaptability

[warm sky]

Swim Swift Basculegion

[ashen barn]

Lead araquanid, set up webs

[warm sky]

Or adaptability yeah

[fading stratus]

scarf adaptabilty is also insane

[ashen barn]

And watch everything in sight drop

[warm sky]

Okay so

[fading stratus]

if it was doubles psychic woulda been so funny man

with psyspam

[warm sky]

Araquanid, Pelipper, Basculegion, A Swift Swimmer and then Iron Bundle?

[fading stratus]

but singles water is fine

[ashen barn]

I'd say:

Araquanid
Pelliper
Seismitoad / Swampert
Basculegion
Barraskewda
Tentacruel

[fading stratus]

how about we go politoed for rain
I think it'd be pretty fun

[ashen barn]

You said no ubers

[warm sky]

Oh right

Bundle is ubers

Kekw

[fading stratus]

is wake considered a legendary

[ashen barn]

My idea is having a team of rain abusers

Black sludge rain dish tentacruel is surprisingly hard to get rid of

[fading stratus]

slowbro/king would also be decent tank

[warm sky]

I'd say 3/5 slots are at the least covered for.

Since sticky webs be good shit

[ashen barn]

Idk about them, they function standalone

And no teleport so yeet

[warm sky]

Natdex

Fwiw

[ashen barn]

Behold
Gyarados in 19 levels

[fading stratus]

Pelliper araquanid basculegion semismitoad tentacruel

[warm sky]

Sooo

[ashen barn]

Oh ok then one on the team

OH COME ON

Eevee found after a caterpie

Eevee is an insane mon for nuzlockes

[fading stratus]

yeah

[ashen barn]

Especially gen 1

[warm sky]

Seems good to me

[fading stratus]

yami is balking bake legal

or not

[warm sky]

Did ask if wake is allowed

No reply yet

[ashen barn]

Now watch me die to eevee

Because entire team is dratini without an attacking move
Caterpie
And magikarp

I died to the 2nd wild mon

Ig I change starter

Luckily the safari zone, aka starter selection area, has most of the caught mons

So realistically it's goodbye dragonite and welcome Gengar

[fading stratus]

get abra

[ashen barn]

Dragonite sucks ass in gen 1

[fading stratus]

trust it doesnt get only teleport

[ashen barn]

Finally, ghastly

Hello sweetie

0 atk, 9 def, 14 spatk, 1 spdef, 23 speed

[fading stratus]

thats pdecent

unless you wanna shadow punch spam

with haunter

[ashen barn]

I just need a nature fi

HOLY SHIT

Hello Zapdos

[fading stratus]

modest?

[ashen barn]

[fading stratus]

oh zapdos

lmao

[ashen barn]

Impish

But natures can be modified

Caught an abra

9 spatk

11 speed

And a relaxed nature

Surprisingly, the magnet line in gen 1 with modern mechanics sucks

You are stuck at magneton

And you don't check ghost or dark

And everything got a fighting or fire or ground move

[sonic inlet]

Wrap is good

[ashen barn]

It's with modern mechanics

And let's go, attempt 4 sees Jasmine first...and horsea 1st death

Given how the thing stops at seadra, and Golduck is better than it, no problem

[warm sky]

@fading stratus balking bake banned

[fading stratus]

welp

that's such a unfair thing lmao

[latent sleet]

they murdered my dog?

[warm sky]

I mean it's for fun

[latent sleet]

sadge

[fading stratus]

because naganadel is ubers too

[warm sky]

Yeh but poipole isn't

[ashen barn]

Not a huge deal tho

[latent sleet]

my sun team

[fading stratus]

do you play slowking here or slowbro

[warm sky]

Not for smogon, dumb casual thing I mentioned

[latent sleet]

yipee

my dog is alive

[ashen barn]

Thank god I found a thunder stone

[fading stratus]

hear me out

shell smash blastoise

[ashen barn]

Wasn't looking forward to using a pikachu without light ball

[warm sky]

I mean - true

But 5 slots only so

[ashen barn]

Araquanid
Pelliper
Seismitoad
Basculegion
Barraskewda

[fading stratus]

not barraskewda

tentacruel

[ashen barn]

What then? We need a strong af mon there

Tentacruel is also good

But I think barra is probably better

That much power and speed under rain isn't exactly a joke

[fading stratus]

its good I just dont like how frail it is

since we already have basculegion

even if we play barra
What if we play AV hamurott in sixth slot

I feel like its funny

[warm sky]

Again only getting 5 slots

[normal cave]

We are minmaxing a funsies event

[fading stratus]

is ash gren legal

[normal cave]

Lesgooooo

[warm sky]

I highly doubt it, but even if it was legal that feels too nasty

Lmao

[normal cave]

We can't run last respects, no ubers

[warm sky]

No I asked

Moves aren't banned

[normal cave]

Oh fuck

Okay rain boosted last respects basc

Nasty

[warm sky]

So I immediately knew what my E4 Ace is

[fading stratus]

you havent seen our swift swimmer

the goat

seismitoad

[normal cave]

[warm sky]

https://tenor.com/view/seismitoad-pretty-baddie-princess-pokemon-gif-8151827215336826640

[normal cave]

The gen 5 menace

[warm sky]

To repost.

So Araquanid would be 50, but Basculegion gets to be 55

[fading stratus]

wwhat if we go
Araquanid
Pelliper
Seismitoad
Rotom Wash
Barraskewda
Basculegion

[normal cave]

Too many mons

We need 5

[fading stratus]

oh he said 5

right

ig barraskewda is fine

just remove rotom wash yeah

[normal cave]

What about 2 rain setters to ease Peli's role, since this team needs rain up?

[fading stratus]

araquanid will have rain dance idk

[normal cave]

Tho idk what we cut for toed

[warm sky]

I mean item clause stuff, so peli's on damp rock

[normal cave]

Okay deal

[warm sky]

Does Araquanid even learn that???

[fading stratus]

yes

[warm sky]

Oh it do

Tbh at that point you're better off having it on like, the swift swimmer itself

Like with Ludicolo

[fading stratus]

okay seismitoad with rain dance

[normal cave]

Toad has the bulk to pull it off

[sonic inlet]

Oh so like the glitch field in rejuvenation

[fading stratus]

https://pokepast.es/1eb869ccb6990c5f

is this good idk

[warm sky]

It prob is, but I think I might do tentacruel tbh

[fading stratus]

tentacruel over barra?

[warm sky]

Yeah

[fading stratus]

rain dish black sludge tentacruel would be wild

[warm sky]

Also I was thinking custap berry for Araquanid

Set webs

Hit liquidation

Die

[fading stratus]

huh true

that actually works

[warm sky]

It's what singles uses for it in OU

[fading stratus]

mystic water araquanid hits like a truck

in TR

[warm sky]

I believe it

[fading stratus]

they have to fight the e4 gauntlet with same team right

do you ever go this with tentacruel

or t spikes

[warm sky]

Yeah

And remember I'm only the first lmao

[fading stratus]

what types are the other e4

[warm sky]

Lemme check in a sec, got work

[fading stratus]

aight

[pseudo goblet]

anything major I missed

[fading stratus]

not really

Yami got promoted to a e4

[warm sky]

Dragon
Ghost
Fighting

[pseudo goblet]

why Im feeling Yami is ice

[warm sky]

Ice already claimed

Am water

[fading stratus]

is the champ all types

[warm sky]

Ye

[pseudo goblet]

the joke is that the three listed is kanto E4 lmao

[fading stratus]

well lorelei is also a water trainer

[pseudo goblet]

good enough lol

[fading stratus]

the most threatening mon in lorelei's team is slowbro

[pseudo goblet]

actually comforting this time

[fading stratus]

I somehow read that as Gender Slap and was like wtf

[pseudo goblet]

this aint non-ygo chat

[fading stratus]

I hope one of yami's gym leaders start with this or sth

[mighty storm]

btw we should be about 9 days till new set

[pseudo goblet]

ah yes, the rattata's god killer strat

[warm sky]

First gym leader is lemme check

But also hear me out