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mighty storm
kind vortex
sneasler swept koga
basically did some glimmora/grimmsnarl pivoting until he brought out "mega" toxtricity, i set up screen/parting shot to -2, then sneasler did the rest
pseudo goblet
I was afraid you’ll say that lmao
kind vortex
I was afraid you’ll say that lmao
yeah sadly there isn't really a good way to get herba right now
just gotta keep grinding raids
on the upside, you're incentivized for running raids right now, there's an event going on and blisseys should still be available in them
so you do those to get a bunch of shards/candies at the same time
mighty storm
oh yeah need to check if they have marks
neither do
absolutely
falinks has a good raid build apparently 👀 PERHAPS I train Legion up for raids
bleak pine
Defiant and No Retreat is super cool
mighty storm
Also thats the last of my herba mystica 😅 need to refresh my supply
kind vortex
i'm not sure what falinks gets uniquely that would make it a good raid pick but you can probably make most things work, at least with partners
solo, not entirely sure
no retreat is cool but idk if it does enough
not a big fan of just forcing in jojo memes, but at least he got his ass kicked
(gyarados is +6 atk/spd bc he just kept spamming scarfed scorching sands on simisear instead of switching out)
because it's a team of jojo references that wasn't that hard to plan for?
my actual strat of grimmsnarl into sneasler never got use bc everything else just worked
vocal torrent
OwO
fading stratus
(gyarados is +6 atk/spd bc he just kept spamming scarfed scorching sands on simi...
sometimes the ai is weird
slate marlin
This mon looks cool. Like a bunch of soldiers lined up with shields out.
I bet it was intentional.
slate marlin
The individual units are still called 'Falinks'?
kind vortex
the whole group of them is one pokemon
pseudo goblet
The individual units are still called 'Falinks'?
Exeggcute, Dugtrio, Combee, Slowbro
kind vortex
i imagine if you were referring to one of them individually you'd also call it falinks
kind vortex
but the group is the whole mon
pseudo goblet
https://tenor.com/view/falinks-pokemon-catch-caught-pokeball-gif-22365149
One ball, caught all 6
kind vortex
with the name 'falinks' being a clear play on the term 'phalanx'
slate marlin
Exeggcute, Dugtrio, Combee, Slowbro
Ok. Noted.
fading stratus
The flareon completely disappeared behind the pole
warm sky
wtf why did you not ping me for breloom
snow oasis
wtf why did you not ping me for breloom
you did not earn the breloom
warm sky
you did not earn the breloom
pseudo goblet
Ah
fading stratus
is this like red's fifth?
pseudo goblet
Charizard, Pikachu, Snorlax… who else 
fading stratus
does he not have mewtwo yet?
maiden flax
https://vxtwitter.com/absolutelypm/status/1694585755094671641?s=46&t=q-1AmjVFLGC...
have you seen the leaks?
pseudo goblet
does he not have mewtwo yet?
Nope, under Giovanni
fading stratus
Red is the one who canonically actched mewtwo so he'll probabaly have it
also Zapmolcuno when
pseudo goblet
have you seen the leaks?
Nah,
maiden flax
im still waiting for more content of one character before coming back
fading stratus
cradily 
pseudo goblet
Let me see, Metagross, A-Sandslash, Shiny Rayquaza, Deoxys- cradily really??
maiden flax
What Steven get this time <:KEKW:622347587516628993>
he didnt get anything this time just wanted to ask if you saw the leaks lol
pseudo goblet
Oh 😂
fading stratus
Cradily was me trolling
maiden flax
steven still has 6 versions
fading stratus
I don't really play masters
pseudo goblet
maiden flax
Let me see, Metagross, A-Sandslash, Shiny Rayquaza, Deoxys- cradily really??
also the one you forgot was shiny stoutland
pseudo goblet
also the one you forgot was shiny stoutland
Oh right the Halloween one 
Detective Steven
pseudo goblet
it's his lounge alt
maiden flax
did you forget about the lounge alts XD
pseudo goblet
I haven’t collect them yet
So idk what’s his 😂
All I remember was Cynthia and Gastrodon
And maybe Marnie with Toxicroak??
maiden flax
yup
pseudo goblet
Speaking of lodge and things I haven’t claim, These are beautiful https://twitter.com/absolutelypm/status/1694688125656957319?s=20
pseudo goblet
You and me buddy 
fading stratus
who dis
tacit sphinx
bruh nobody gave a single fuck about these clowns until one of them was gone
"oh yeah my favourite frontier bosses, those two weirdos with muppet grins"
pseudo goblet
Now now, don’t you go and dissing my butler and favorite bug attack unit 
Partner is Escavalier btw
outer eagle
"wow people cares about characters after they get fleshed out" 
pseudo goblet
I don’t have Ingo in any form…
pseudo goblet
have you seen the leaks?
maiden flax
yup
pseudo goblet
maiden flax
bruh nobody gave a single fuck about these clowns until one of them was gone
youre mistaken
the japanese loved them
pseudo goblet
Why it had to be Blue who caught Zapdos
pseudo goblet
Why it had to be Blue who caught Zapdos <:KEKW:622347587516628993> <:KEKW:622347...
Neat seeing them having Pokémon type outside of their main team, but like 😅
Also FINALLY Leaf get to wear a pretty dress
spice rivet
bruh nobody gave a single fuck about these clowns until one of them was gone
Tbf, I cared mainly because they would body me so bad when I was playing my Whites Super Single train. It gave me a respect for them of sorts
pseudo goblet
Also FINALLY Leaf get to wear a pretty dress
She’s almost the last one to gets the dress treatment out of the main heroines
Gloria got her gym uniform lol
mighty storm
The individual units are still called 'Falinks'?
according to the dex the individual ones have titles, but pretty much yeah
pseudo goblet
Pokemon fit/sitting cuties, take these dang notes 
If they ever get to Gen 8 that is, still at Gen 5 last time I check
pseudo goblet
Is that Genshin?
pseudo goblet
You mean like this?
mighty storm
||looks like it, but people are thinking eevee cuz leaf. And the genshin character apparently uses ghosts or something||
Still an eevee btw ^
pseudo goblet
Still an eevee btw ^
You could be the first few to get || the possibly new eeveelution in shiny form 
||
mighty storm
||If Khu is legit saying ghost eeveelution, Judgemental eevee gonna evolve!||
crimson moat
bruh nobody gave a single fuck about these clowns until one of them was gone
Still don’t
PWT for life
Orre Colosseum, Sunset Colosseum, and Stargazer Colosseum still need to be re-added instead of Battle Tower water-downs
Or just man up and add a frontier again
Nobody cared about the Muppets til one of them was in Hisui
Nobody cares about the quad from gen 6
… Some people took note of the tower in gen 7 for nostalgia blindness only
Gen 8 balanced tower opponents but simultaneously made tower way too easy
And gen 9 is adding a possible tower as freakin dlc
warm sky
bruh nobody gave a single fuck about these clowns until one of them was gone
I actually did the subway a lot as a teen, so I do like them.
latent sleet
bruh nobody gave a single fuck about these clowns until one of them was gone
i forgot they were characters before arceus 
placid junco
fading stratus
idk if that's a stretch or not
placid junco
It’s a little stretch
twin shard
Raikou’s neck is stretched yep
long stone
||If Khu is legit saying ghost eeveelution, Judgemental eevee gonna evolve!||
||could be just a special ghost tera form tho or a mask||
||meowth gmax is a Jiangshi, maybe special tera eevee is a Jiangshi too||
mighty storm
ooh maybe
kind vortex
went ahead and grabbed all the currently available paradox mons in safari zone
might build more of them up eventually but for now the only one i'm actively running is iron moth
basically, most of my roster leaned fast physical attackers or special attackers who were slow or middling in speed
so i grabbed moth boi for a faster one
like nidoking, it has a lot of great coverage; unlike nidoking, it has a real speed stat
no booster energy yet, unfortunately, but i can live w/o it
kind vortex
made an immediate impact by sweeping pryce
attempted a serperior sweep but arctozolt said fuck that
bleak pine
I really dunno how to feel about radical red
Has some good ideas but it has plenty of stuff one probably shouldn’t do when making a Fangame
kind vortex
with the qol it's pretty fun
bleak pine
Admittedly it’s got some charm into them
Just, it’s laced with very questionable stuff, stupid jokes that were only funny like 10 years ago, and other such stuff
kind vortex
most of the dialogue is the same or similar to the base game, and most of the side trainers like the johto leaders aren't bad either
kind vortex
the only stuff that's a bit grating to me is the stuff like adding a jojo memer as a side boss
bleak pine
I remember a stupid kid who still thinks Mudkip jokes were funny
kind vortex
yes i kicked their ass too
bleak pine
Good
kind vortex
went into it blind even
i usually prepare for battles but i was too hasty going into that one lol
and still won bc broken mons are broken
bleak pine
They forbid stuff like Flash and Double Team for whatever reason, but they’re alright throwing you crap like Blaziken, Espartha and Glimmora
bleak pine
Ahh
kind vortex
a bunch of decisions you probably don't agree with are inspired by what you'd see in smogon's competitive ladders
bleak pine
Ehhh, yeah. I really don’t like Smogon all that much
kind vortex
so a reduced emphasis on evasion/accuracy trolling, and i can't find baton pass accessible anywhere either (it's banned in smogon ou, for example)
(but cyclizar and orthworm do retain shed tail fwiw)
bleak pine
It’s a fine resource, but insofar as their mandated way of play goes, I’m not very keen on it
kind vortex
you don't have to play smogon to play competitive
bleak pine
Yeah, it’s fair if that’s what people want to play!
kind vortex
the issue is that the official competitive environment prioritizes doubles at the expense of singles
bleak pine
…eh, yeah, that is something I am a little confused at
Single and Double battles were a thing since RSE, and you’d think both would be supported in an official capacity
kind vortex
bss exists but since vgc is doubles only, yeah
bleak pine
I really would love a return of Triple and Rotation battles though, those were unironically fun
kind vortex
my ideal would be both a competitive singles and doubles format; singles can function like bss now (bring 6, pick 3) or change up a bit
realistically, the time adjustments events would need to make would make it hard, if not impossible, to go full 6v6 in either format
my hot take is that if the official competitive environment is gonna be doubles, in-game should feature far more doubles content than it currently does
i recognize that they're separate teams and people working on either side of that, but on some level, there should be consistency between what people see in game and what people see in competitions
but that's just me
bleak pine
True enough!
tacit sphinx
Lunatone and Solrock are both a 10% chance in Glittering Cave
How have I seen four Lunatones and zero Solrocks
bleak pine
Just gotta find the Sun
pseudo goblet
kind vortex
nidosweep
samurott set up spikes, killed forretress lead, died, nidoking did the rest
golden lance
Remembered i never actually finished emerald kaizo so i'm starting from scratch
kind vortex
took a while to beat blaine, but i was also limiting myself in a way by not using scarlet paradoxes/talonflame/venusaur
bleak pine
Did you have the burn heal at least?
kind vortex
didn't need a burn heal, but i needed some weed killer with all his chlorophyll mons
bleak pine
Oh right, they did throw a wammy with how Blaine's team works
That's one neat thing in this hack; Gym Leaders are way less predictable, I'll give it that
about the only one you can guess a mile away is Brock and I guess Misty
kind vortex
blaine's gym has permanent sun (i think desolate land? didn't test water moves), some chlorophyll abusers, a typhlosion with a gale wings-like ability for fire moves
ironically his zard y was the least threatening part of his team
bleak pine
...Ok yuck.
kind vortex
oh and his typhlosion holds heavy duty boots for good measure
bleak pine
Gimmicks that any trainers will always abuse with you having minimal-to-no real way to make use of it are a big red flag for me concerning fangames.
kind vortex
also this is normal mode
bleak pine
Admittedly this one doesn't sound so bad, but there is worse out there
kind vortex
this one took me quite a bit to clear actually, but again, i was sorta limiting myself
on normal mode, you have a lot more options to deal with things
if i were on restricted or hardcore, there'd be even more going against me
bleak pine
Yurgh.
kind vortex
lemme just pull up that documentation
so in restricted/hardcore, blaine's team looks like this
for comparison, his normal mode team is armarouge/slither wing/exeggutor/scovillain/typhlosion/zard y
in higher difficulty, it's
sandy shocks/great tusk/walking wake/venusaur/ho-oh/zard x
bleak pine
Well shit, that sounds miserable
kind vortex
that's before i mention all the limits those modes put on the player
bleak pine
Oh yeah, the limits
kind vortex
there's way too many to list here but the tldr is that a whole bunch of items are either delayed, or not given at all; you don't get access to a bunch of moves or abilities, including set up moves
bleak pine
kind vortex
enemy weather is permanent and you can't change it since you also don't get access to those moves or abilities
same for terrain
bleak pine
Yuuuuuck
kind vortex
moves that would normally remove terrain don't
bleak pine
I get you have to choose to put up with this but wow, that's mean
kind vortex
this is all on higher difficulty; i'm on normal so i don't have to deal with that
but yeah it's a lot
i'm still debating whether hc rad red or rejuv moto mod is harder
probably still leaning moto mod
but not by much
bleak pine
I imagine it's less hard and more BS on some spots
There is a different in difficulty and just being unfair
kind vortex
to its credit, despite everything, the game still is very beatable under the restraints placed on you
but yes, it can certainly feel unfair
bleak pine
That's alright, at least
random stream
RR is a great difficulty hack in all honesty because even if you crank it up, it still gives you enough tools to win and it's pretty customizable
random stream
to its credit, despite everything, the game still is very beatable under the res...
I still like it over something disgusting as run and bun
hate run and bun with a burning passion
inclement emerald is also a very solid difficulty hack that gives you plenty of options to power through it
@outer eagle @fading stratus reverted to an earlier save state because I got too overleveled, my plan is to use mega toise as a huge exp sink all the way up until wattson's gym trainers then permabox it because it's too broken 
then my current team is only slightly above wattson, should be fine (have exp share turned off)
fading stratus
how far are you now
random stream
at battson's gym
fading stratus
battson's cap is 23 right?
random stream
uh yeah but I did boost levels a bit
maybe not enough now that I think ab out it, might crank the levels even more
fading stratus
oh its 21 in oras
random stream
Yeah now it's 23 in my hack. I might bump that up since it feels low
I forgot how messed up oras' difficulty and level is compared to the goat emerald
why were the gym leaders not given their emerald teams 
random stream
I might also change exp to slow
fading stratus
or just dont fite wild trainers
kind vortex
I still like it over something disgusting as run and bun
run and bun just looks like suffering
idk how it'd go without nuzlocking it but i've seen nuzlockers have a really hard time with it lol
random stream
Hate that game
kind vortex
like i have some issues with rad red but normal mode at least feels mostly fair
kind vortex
just happened to catch me right in the middle of the final giovanni fight
random stream
EK looks and plays like a saint compared to RNB
random stream
Yeah because while opps might have broken stuff, you have access to them too
my last playthrough was pre gen 9 mons so I didnt get to experience those
kind vortex
i'm not actually gonna say that fight was free, idk how it went my way, but it did
brought primarina, rillaboom, kingambit
rillaboom basically existed to get rid of psychic terrain to mitigate expanding force somewhat
primarina and kingambit did the bulk of the work otherwise
also lance actually contributed
random stream
||I cheesed the elite four with a lot of status + protect spam. My spiritomb had sucker punch toxic protect will-o-wisp. stealth rock leech seed protect ferro and calm mind MG clefable also did their job, yellow magic and leech seed to make mgyara's life easier|| I dont have my save file with me anymore since it was on my old dead phone, but im pretty sure my team was cheese tomb, 3 fat mons in OU, mega gyarados and scarf houndoom
kind vortex
yeah i'll worry about the elite four when i get there
random stream
Yeah it's not too bad aside from a few deadly mons
you'll be fine, you have most of the gen 9 brokens 
fading stratus
you can probably toxic stall or shadow tag perish stall
the e4
sash hamurott probably decent too
sets up spike and can d tail setup mons
kind vortex
random stream
kind vortex
this is every mon i've meaningfully used/invested in post-misty or so
fading stratus
where palafin
random stream
you even have bax
kind vortex
haven't used palafin yet lol
pseudo goblet
this is every mon i've meaningfully used/invested in post-misty or so
Indeedee really?
Is it good?
kind vortex
psychic terrain has been occasionally useful, yes
pseudo goblet
Ah, okay
random stream
Yeah and the priority shielding lets you exploit some tough fights zane
zane im boxing quiver dance mega blastoise, it's too good for this world
kind vortex
society if iron moth got quiver dance
pseudo goblet
psychic terrain has been occasionally useful, yes
Didn’t know they learn that honestly
kind vortex
^
pseudo goblet
zane im boxing quiver dance mega blastoise, it's too good for this world
Wreck havoc anyway
fading stratus
society if iron moth got quiver dance
volc is the best of the 3 for a reason
pseudo goblet
Yeah and the priority shielding lets you exploit some tough fights zane
Tbf i don’t play competitive lmao
random stream
no worries
pseudo goblet
I don’t even know what half of the 4 terrains do lmao
Grassy heals
Electric i think prevent sleeps
Psychic and fairy i didn’t really know
While boosting the each Pokémon types?
kind vortex
grassy terrain boosts grass attacks, halves eq damage, heals for a bit every turn
psychic terrain boosts psychic attacks, stops priority moves
electric terrain boosts electric attacks, prevents sleep
misty terrain doesn't boost any attack, but weakens dragon attacks and prevents visible status as well as confusion
all effects only apply on or to grounded mons
kind vortex
eq is the most relevant one, but yes
also applies to bulldoze and magnitude specifically
fading stratus
my fav use of terrain was byfar prankster nature power
pseudo goblet
Huh, didn’t know Grassy was so defensive
fading stratus
its just stuff you get used to when you play dwai
twin shard
Chimkin
pseudo goblet
I’m not even kidding
pseudo goblet
<@456226577798135808> https://x.com/suchi_paint/status/1694640124859130126?s=46&...
God this chick is so plump and too cute
bleak pine
<@456226577798135808> https://x.com/suchi_paint/status/1694640124859130126?s=46&...
Love the little bean
pseudo goblet
God this chick is so plump and too cute
Oh damn I really do have a thing for round birds
Tho Hoothoot is an exception
As in the official artstyle of hoothoot
bleak pine
Hoothoot is weird
Clock themed owl
Always stands on one foot at all times
It just knows what time it is at all times
Proof positive that Johto brought us all the weird stuff
Like Natu, Girafarig, Wobbuffet, etc
pseudo goblet
Rushed job maybe lol
bleak pine
Naw, they’re just perfect
Design wise they were going for cuter mons too
Compare something like Chikorita to Bulbasaur, or Sentret to Ratatta for instance
Wanna know something stupid that bothers me, speaking of?
Chikorita has many kinds of vines hidden around it’s neck that you see in the anime and in the games
It cannot learn Vine Whip, except as an egg move
random stream
pseudo goblet
Like Natu, Girafarig, Wobbuffet, etc
Oooh Mareep too
tacit sphinx
I like Stonjourner
tacit sphinx
It *cannot learn Vine Whip, except as an egg move*
She is perfect
tacit sphinx
Rowlet ugly
mighty storm
rowlet is not ugly
tacit sphinx
Stupid birb
void herald
pseudo goblet
Rowlet ugly
Rowlet wins the cute starters contest 
Oooh… Rowlet or Eevee… 
Include Let’s Go Eevee cause I like Eevee over Pikachu lol
Also reminder for this
Yo this is hype
tacit sphinx
@pseudo goblet sun stone on the first solrock
I remembered that XY gives you Thief early
I got the 5% first try
So Nappa is a Bellossom now
pseudo goblet
Nice
tacit sphinx
This does occupy the bipedial without tail group, so I do have to rotate off Ox King the Snorlax
But I think having the possibility for a Poison or Normal mon later is worth it
pseudo goblet
maiden flax
@tacit sphinx hows the challenge run?
kind vortex
did 4chan do this hack
outer eagle
kind vortex
and that makes all 8 gym leaders beaten
mvp of this one, surprisingly enough, was skeledirge
i knew i was gonna use it on at least dragonite but it soloed like 3 of her mons
gyarados and kingambit never got used
also i'm 2 mons off a dark monotype at this point lol
weirdly enough i don't remember how the whole thing went despite just doing it
skeledirge took out roaring moon and dragonite at the very least
burned both and the rest is history
led samurott against aero, i think it also got a crit sucker punch against naga
well whatever
rival battle will have to wait
fading stratus
is tera in the game
kind vortex
no
kind vortex
you cannot
not that i'm aware of anyway
feel like i should be trying some more of the paradox mons i actually have
iron hands could be decent, at least
ah well
i'm pretty much content with what i have, though i'll probably add at least flutter mane and iron valiant to the rotation a bit later
i'll worry about the elite four when i get there
fading stratus
iron hands with AV probably walls some fights
kind vortex
next rival fight has like half my main rotation in his party lmao
(kingambit, iron moth, sneasler)
ye i was considering that
rn my av is on primarina, haven't used it since the giovanni battle
hm
rival has no way to remove hazards so i can trivialize his sneasler at least
kind vortex
i switch items depending on context, actually haven't used it choiced yet tho
between those two i'm more likely to run sash
fading stratus
d tail or nah?
kind vortex
moves rn are edge/razor shell/sucker/sacred sword
i also use knock off occasionally
but as you'd expect i end up just clicking ceaseless edge 90% of the time
kind vortex
i haven't gotten to use it as much yet, weirdly enough
i was considering bringing it for clair to get rocks up for dragonite
ended up not doing so, but it was def in consideration
i probably bring it to next rival tho
he leads staraptor so even at -1 stone axe should 2hko or at least get the rocks up if not
tacit sphinx
<@107723084735201280> hows the challenge run?
Just got to second gym town
maiden flax
ooo
random stream
Rip bronzor, drought flamethrower whimsicott from Wattson
Archen should sweep though
L
outer eagle
Moody is such a hit or miss ability
fading stratus
I honestly don't like stuff like this in nuzlockes
way too random for me
moody, hustle and so on
outer eagle
Now that i think about it we need a Choice item that boosts Accuracy
random stream
So I got wiped by the winstrates lv 34 seed flare gourgeist XL. Luckily we still kept the broken mon in the box. I'm not on HC rules so let's keep going
I have smoochum and karrablast in the box left
Gonna avoid the winstrates and grind these two
fading stratus
the most broken mon
elektrik without levitate
random stream
it learns oblivion wing
random stream
pseudo goblet
This thing with Blizzard would be nice
Something tells me this is gundam related lol
Correct me if it’s not
waxen moat
pseudo goblet
ofc ducky knows if its gundam related
Why ya think I pinged him, dude literally post plenty of Gundam in #1081613571408011294
fading stratus
mighty storm
random stream
outer eagle
Quick Claw on Hydreigon 
fading stratus
thought the prev one was not shiny
outer eagle
for some reason I have a lot of rock boosting items with no rock moves
oh dw my recent ORAS run i got like 10 Flame Plates
in any case given that this is still mid game Oran Berries should suffice
if nothing else works
fading stratus
oran probably not
outer eagle
it's not gonna be amazing healing or anything, but it should be like 15% of your health, which is still ok
then again that was with base levels 
not sure how much Ren boosted the percentage
cuz obviously if you're like lv35 Oran Berries are gonna be shite
pseudo goblet
oh god Ren just captured a Khezu
Khezu my love
random stream
@lucid moth phyrexia in shambles rn
Maybe emerald kaizo isn't so bad after all...
outer eagle
why did you enter the fight so underleveled in the first place
outer eagle
did you skip like...every trainer
random stream
after the wipe I've been avoiding some of the trainers yeah
outer eagle
that's kinda setting up for wiping in the future ngl
random stream
I will say that quiver dance + oblivion wing has kept me alive in the run
fading stratus
in the run
you mean half the run after you wiped
mighty storm
my game crashed while I was checking out a Forretress outbreak, oof
lucid moth
<@480437470870110209> phyrexia in shambles rn
lol
warm sky
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fading stratus
bleak pine
Oh that’s cool
kind vortex
beat up some guy in a cave and got a kubfu for it
kind vortex
haven't evolved it yet
fading stratus
do you have like scrolls or just day rapid night single
kind vortex
i think i can get a second kubfu by beating him again later, right?
he said come back tomorrow or some such
fading stratus
you can check the documentation ig
kind vortex
the one i make first is probably rapid since i have a million good dark types already but it probably doesn't matter
random stream
Go rapid strike
kind vortex
bleak pine
Y'know, Kubfu gave me an idea
kind vortex
another iron moth sweep
bleak pine
You know how in XD: Gale of Darkness, Hordel has a Shadow Togepi that he rescued from Cipher, and needs you to purify it?
I imagined such a thing would work as a very great way to introduce Kubfu to someone in a fangame involving Shadow Pokémon
Would work the same way, except showing the newly purified Kubfu to him may have him reveal a bit of a secret involving Kubfu's true potential (That is to say, how to evolve Kubfu). Your deed purifiying Kubfu is more than proof that you are ready for the challenge.
Sound alright?
bleak pine
Had that thought for awhile
kind vortex
still wish it got quiver dance
bleak pine
Iron Moth is pretty great yeah
bleak pine
It was very much the right thing to try giving Volcarona like 2 Paradoxical offshoots
Moth-man
fading stratus
just use fiery dance
bleak pine
Fiery Dance is super great
kind vortex
that's what i'm running on it
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iron moth is worse in hardcore
it doesnt even get fiery dance
bleak pine
Doesn't hit as hard as Flamethrower/Fire Blast, but that additional Sp.Atk bonus can snowball very quickly
bleak pine
You wish Charge Beam was this good
kind vortex
torch song is better, but it has lower distribution obv
(and it's also banned in hc ofc)
anyway, i did end up using kleavor for that rival fight
it didn't get much use aside from setting rocks but that's all it needed to do
bleak pine
Kleavor's nice
kind vortex
yep
if i really wanted to i could exploit the fact rad red gives it technician and run like accelerock/pounce and other such stuff
but that's fine
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you probably do technician rock blast
kind vortex
rock blast is also viable, yes
probably run loaded dice alongside it
right now i have baxcalibur doing that
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yeah loaded die pounce/accelerock/stone axe and the move that resets stats changes which i totally didnt forget are ideas ig
mighty storm
but we get rid of eviolite
kind vortex
gastrodon doesn't need an evolution, but they also gave duraludon one, so i wouldn't be surprised
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duralodon with eviolite is so bad tho in standard
it needs a boosting item to hit hard
mighty storm
and then the evo can have color variants 
like northwest, southwest, northeast, and southeast
kind vortex
gyarados sweep
the fight went something like this
samurott sets up spikes in front of deoxys before dying, skeledirge switches in, nails deoxys, burns huntail switch, gyarados comes in, sets up on huntail, and sweeps
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does rr show stat changes
i forgot
kind vortex
i think it does, but i don't remember how to show them
gyarados was at +2
needed it to outspeed scarf jirachi
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most hacks show them below hp bar but apparently not here
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mighty storm
https://x.com/avhycch3x80kcue/status/1695051308829671776?s=46&t=q-1AmjVFLGCcEVWL...
Machaghast
pseudo goblet
Machaghast
I find it funny how… the new Green tea mon really is green tea, while the original sinistea is purple tea, the closest irl counterpart I can think of is purple hot chocolate and that ain’t tea lmao
Also this kinda means if we have 18 different types of Sinistea, the ‘liquid’ will be the same color as their new typing
bleak pine
Would explain why Polteageist isn't also a grass type in spite of tea being derived from plants
But it does still learn a fair bit of grass-type moves
Polchageist likely has more control of... whatever power that grass-types usually control than Polteageist
mighty storm
ooh ya know what mon would be a good new shiny target
I'd have to get the rain to spawn tho
or this
pseudo goblet
I'd have to get the rain to spawn tho
Or maybe SOS in SM lol
mighty storm
Or maybe SOS in SM lol
my 3DS doesnt work remember
pseudo goblet
Wait seriously? Ops
mighty storm
yeah
pseudo goblet
https://youtu.be/RQ3B8s0XYpc
Also is it just me or SV made them look purple?
mighty storm
could be the lighting
maiden flax
I find it funny how… the new Green tea mon really is green tea, while the origin...
Ghostly macha that sucks out your life
bleak pine
I might end up bringing Grimmsnarl to the Mewtwo Raid event instead of Mew
I feel like most anyone else will be using Mew, so I figured putting myself in a supportive role will work just fine.
Assuming this is gonna mostly consist of Special attacks, stuff like Light Screen, Spirit Break and some other moves would work right?
...On second thought I could gear up my own Mew with tech moves, like say, Chilling Water, Mystical Fire and others?
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how does parting shot and fake out work on tera raid
bleak pine
I think it fails, because you cannot switch out.
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it doesnt fail even if you have 1 monster
bleak pine
You can use Fake-Out just fine though, and I think you can in fact score a flinch...?
I could be wrong though
I don't use Fake-Out in raids, or I haven't yet
bleak pine
I think it might be slightly impractical because when the shields are up, status moves cannot work
Hence why I find it more practical to use attacking moves that also inflict status debuffs
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bleak pine
(Also, they build up the Terastalization)
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this is what I was asking
bleak pine
If it were not so dangerous, Sneasler would be a nice pick for raids, if only because Dire Claw has an absurd chance of inflicting a status aliment
Ahh
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u can do stuff like u turn/parting shot even if its your last mon btw if you're wondering
bleak pine
Oh, didn't know that
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sash or light clay grimm with spirit break, light screen, false surrender and sth else probably works ig
bleak pine
So, as far as moves go, stuff like Chilling Water, Mystical Fire, Lunge, Skitter Smack, Crush Claw, Pounce, Icy Wind, Mud-Slap, Lumina Crash, Spirit Break and the like are good in raids from what I noticed
Crush Claw's the best I got as far as defense lowering goes
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if you wanna meme i have a funny idea
kind vortex
i find screech better, just set up when they don't have shield
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fling poison orb
bleak pine
Oh yeah, fling
Fling works through shields, i think?
It's risky since you don't have an item afterwards, but it could work
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it should
kind vortex
applying effects through damaging moves works through shields
bleak pine
I'm expecting something stupid like Mewtwo actually reseting it's stat adjustments twice during the raid, though
So this may not work as intended
kind vortex
for mewtwo specifically, it's still too early imo
we don't have any real information on how that raid will go
bleak pine
It could go either way, since apparently Mewtwo can have all kinds of Tera types
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yeah honestly that just wait for relavent info
bleak pine
So we can also infer it might also have different movesets
One could just go all in on Psystrike, another could keep using Psycho Cut
Just be warned: Pressure is it's ability, so you kinda have to account for PP
...I miss Coaching.
bleak pine
Just putting this here in case
Just to know what we could expect
Could totally see it using it's moves at certain thresholds to use Calm Mind or Psychic Terrain
if only Marshadow were here!
Speaking of
Clear Smog. Definately a consideration as far as moves go
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hear me out sylph
if alcremie is dlc1 max sp defensive alcremie with recover light screen lefties helping hand and decorate
aroma veil prevents from taunt
bleak pine
Alcremie is DLC2, featuring in The Indigo Disk
bleak pine
It sounds good!
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outer eagle
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my role model
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monkagiga
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did you get +2 def tho
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Only +1 in gen 6
Took care of ghostquag but yveltal is scary
Flannery has thundy t and yveltal 
Aurorus and eelektross clutched. Yveltal almost killed both with karate chop and psychic
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Only +1 in gen 6
ah
outer eagle
imagine dying to Karate Chop 
placid junco
some friends voted on it and need to get started on a ghost type only run of pokemon sun soon
got the team more or less figured out
outer eagle
Tentacruel is better than half the team members tbh
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there's like 10 ghosts in sm anyway
outer eagle
Thick Club A-Marowak probably carries most of the times anyways
placid junco
yeah
it's really mostly just "do i want drifblim or ghost oricorio" in terms of team variation
placid junco
it is but only because I'm too lazy to set up my other 3ds
and I don't actually care that much about gengar
outer eagle
are you starting with Rowlet then
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you probably do
outer eagle
Palossand, Marowak, Dhelmise would be the staple 3 for me ig
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mimikyu
placid junco
those three and mimkyu are basically locked in the moment you want to do a ghost solo run
placid junco
the remaining two slots are basically a tossup between sableye, trevenan or getting decidueye
outer eagle
so a bit of stacking
placid junco
litwick isn't in base sun outside of maybe island scan
outer eagle
Mega Stones are only post-game right
placid junco
yep
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apparently island scan on saturday
outer eagle
is Froslass available
placid junco
not until victory road
outer eagle
oh yeah
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Yeah and sword is a tm if I miss it enough
outer eagle
the Icy Path
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Psystrike is nice
placid junco
because SUMO decides to just lock out all ice types until the last fuckin route of the game
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oh wow honedge is island scan too
outer eagle
i don't really like Psychic as a coverage type all that much tbh
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I brought Blastoise back so boxed tenta for now
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kind vortex
seriously what are you playing and why are all the gym leaders racist
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Oras randomizer, the class randomizer made the gym leaders racist
kind vortex
why is racist a class to start with
harsh path
Just need a Claydol called SAP
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Norman was fairly unremarkable aside from intimidate psychic meloetta and precipice blades rhyperior. talonflame died to a random mon that had rock blast
Thanks dad
tacit sphinx
Thanks dad <:Hahaa:642861303387521034>
get plucked
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why is racist a class to start with
the people who made the randomiser wanted to mess up with it a bit probs
or ren likes racist people
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https://i.imgur.com/uPdRS4Z.png
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why bolar beam
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No other good moves 
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Doduo is dead 
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oh that is ded box
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Lmaooo the levels also Courtney has a heatran
Rip tentacruel, heatran has parental bond
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Not sure if I should use it
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what do you want to
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I'll box it for now, new backup
outer eagle
can't it learn Psyshock
kind vortex
finally went ahead and finished this one
it only gets aurora veil at level 80 in this game, so i held off for a while
but this technically continues my tradition of using a-ninetales in basically every game that allows for it
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can't it learn Psyshock
I'll check
M-Audino doesn't learn quiver but cm + quick claw is close enough
Think I replace seed flare
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Mega latios has sand veil
outer eagle
you're gonna get Soul Dew along the way dw 
tacit sphinx
kind vortex
went and caught a great tusk, which will be my next project
i say 'project' but it came at level 79 so there's not too much i have to do
sand forge
Poltchageist is such a horrible name
But when the base name is Potdeath & Chadeath
Not much to work with
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Good stuff
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just play sun now
drought torkoal was available in mt moon last time idk now
apparently they banned drought in hc in new update
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where fish
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oh they have their ruin abilities neat
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ting lu doesn't have fissure
outer eagle
Boltz is too VGC pilled
outer eagle
6v6 Singles might lead to extremely long tournaments ig, especially Internationals and above
I can see at least 3v3 or 4v4 working tho
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what do you mean you dont want to see toxapex spamming scald and knock off 
outer eagle
Pex?
Sorry bro but Ferro spamming Leech Seed is my boi
outer eagle
also yeah, that kinda forces balance as the only playstyle doesn't it
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idts, it gets rid of say annoying mono boots stall
we'd probably see life orb and type boosting items again
black sludge
outer eagle
1 lefties, 1 boot, 1-2 choice users, 1 lo, 1 sludge
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rocky helmet
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HO still has life orb sash two choiced items and probably something else
outer eagle
only HO i can see working is weather/Aurora Veil HO tbh
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Boltz is too VGC pilled <:KEKW:622347587516628993>
you can probably still fissure spam in singles no?
outer eagle
absolutely not
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society if vgc was 6v6 singles:
6v6 singles would be so bad
gf isnt smogon to ban anything that's remotely good
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6v6 singles meant we wouldnt be seeing crap like pachirisu or magmar 
outer eagle
isn't the best Ground type move in VGC for Ting-Lu Stomping Tantrum?
in Singles you always just spam EQ anyways
cuz there's no downside
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best ground type move for vgc is indeed stomping tantrum but from lan t
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Yeah ting lu runs eq in singles
pick between eq ruination spikes whirlwind stealth rock protect
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for ting lu it is either stomping or sand tomb depending on team
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annihilape in singles 
warm sky
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kingambit
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garganacl
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garganacl won very first scarlet violet regionals
warm sky
society if vgc was 6v6 singles:
to be fair.
6v6 singles is just too long at a meta level for a tournament.
outer eagle
you know what VGC needs?
Rotation Battles
warm sky
... add more double battles in the mainline games
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I'm just trying to imagine the alternate universe where
vgc was singles and smogon was doubles
warm sky
We'd still get people complaining that the other format is superior
outer eagle
i would at least want 3v3 ngl
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honestly I like vgc because a lot of niche stuff that normally wouldn't see light of the day can shine
like who woulda thought brambleghast would top
outer eagle
i mean if we want to see niche stuffs we can always implement tiering tbf
but that's too much effort for a one and done thing from GF's perspective
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tiering would just be too redundant
like imagine hosting touraments for like 5 different tiers
pair it up with age levels and you get 15
outer eagle
Yugioh hosting tournaments for 5 different alt formats 
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first gets 30
outer eagle
outer eagle
1st place in YGO Worlds gets a trophy and a prize card
ofc the prize card can still be sold for like 1k but still
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1st place in YGO Worlds gets a trophy and a prize card <:KEKW:622347587516628993...
they didnt even get 3 trophies and 3 prize cards for md one iirc
outer eagle
yeah only 1 trophy
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also if you can get to top 11 or sth gf covers your expenses for worlds
more like you get paid i think 2-3k straight up
outer eagle
sometimes i wonder if YGO's need to adhere to Takahashi's wishes costed it its future ngl
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well tbf pokemon tournaments are expensive than ygo ones
regs costs about 50-70 bucks which is ygo equivalent of ycs
kind vortex
my hot take is that if the official competitive environment is gonna be doubles,...
i still stand by this btw
crimson moat
my hot take is that if the official competitive environment is gonna be doubles,...
Colosseum games were ahead of their time in this department
outer eagle
tbh if you are already dedicated enough to ygo to book a flight to a reg you probably didn't mind the extra bucks
now, driving is easier but that still requires qualifying through OTS and locals tbw
crimson moat
There are some areas that aren’t thrilled with the map of events this year
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they removed ocic
crimson moat
Australia is rightfully pissed off between OCIC and the fact that a bunch of aus areas don’t have tcg locals
outer eagle
GF doubling down on the whole "cheating" shit
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they really said "fuck australia"
crimson moat
Europe had its point requirement for tcg raise dramatically with not many tcg locals to begin with
Pretty much everything for LA this year revolves around Brazil
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yeah idk why they removed stuff like day 2 or increased points requirements
crimson moat
And for whatever reason Northeast US lost Hartford
So Northeast’s regionals are Pittsburgh and Toronto at best
If you are in an are like NYC, your closest regionals is a 7 hour drive
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oh they removed hartford?
crimson moat
Hartford ain’t on there yet
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isnt the list only upto end of this year
crimson moat
And with NAIC being like, 3 weeks after the last listed US regional, they didn’t leave much time to add it later
crimson moat
isnt the list only upto end of this year
No they have regionals up through end of May listed
crimson moat
Why is Australia being fucked?
OCIC was removed
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apparently 300 people is too low to run a internats
crimson moat
Also there are a ton of areas in AU without locals
So AU’ participants basically exist near listed regionals or have to dole out cashola for a chance at worlds
“They just didn’t list OCIC yet”
No they made a statement that they removed it
The big thing with the TCG’s point structure update is that they made it more dependent on local play
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So AU’ participants basically exist near listed regionals or have to dole out ca...
or like win in the midseason bo1 tours
idk if tcg has it tho
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But yeah I wish they gave bss a shot or made more doubles content if its supposed to be the competitive format
crimson moat
Special events I think are still BO3
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its just baffling since the main thing you do in the games isnt actually how its going to be in the comp scene
crimson moat
Special Event Barcelona Spain sold out in 2 minutes and only houses 400 people for the tcg
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what about mid season showdowns
crimson moat
Tcg don’t have that
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global challenges?
outer eagle
its just baffling since the main thing you do in the games isnt actually how its...
every team should have a mandatory HM slave
crimson moat
TCG’s got regionals, special events, ic’s, and all the locals
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so no global challenges either
crimson moat
No online events…. You wanna guess why no online events?
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why?
crimson moat
Because PTCGLive sucks
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ah
crimson moat
They used to do online events during COVID and slightly post-Covid with the old PTCGO.
They forced sunset on PTCGO the start of gen 9 and its replacement is basically worse at everything except card availability
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crimson moat
If they tried to hold any event near a pack release, some deck would be bugged or at a major advantage
They still haven’t fixed Toedscruel ex on live yet I think, and it’s been nearly 3 weeks
And the bug made Toedscruel much closer to viable than it really should
Last format, they released a counter card that helped certain decks against Mew VMax, Spiritomb. That card basically decides Mew as a meta call for the format.
A bug on spiritomb and several other floodgates was discovered that could crash the game and give the user a free win
Ptcglive took 2 weeks to fix the issue
So they banned half a dozen cards for 2 weeks. This included banning a potential rogue deck entirely in Ting Lu ex.
(Ting Lu ultimately sucked in tcg, but no one could test Ting Lu online for those 2 weeks)
outer eagle
tfw Master Duel is a better simulator
crimson moat
Yeah ptcgo was already a low tier simulator
Ptcglive is bottom tier
Next format will have the same issue too
Pokémon card 151 releases Alakazam ex, a card with an attack that does something no other card in the game has ever done before
attack from the bench
Everyone is placing bets on how messed up it will be online and for how long it will get banned
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tfw Master Duel is a better simulator
that is something you don't hear everayday that's for sure
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yeah md is nice compared to ptcg live
crimson moat
Ptcglive is so bad that a group of top players are crowdfunding the development of a ptcg ygopro-like sim
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maiden flax
Ptcglive is so bad that a group of top players are crowdfunding the development ...
Ptcg live so bad that i cant even access it from here
crimson moat
it's probably for your benefit
mighty storm
I need to get an ability patch, and then my falinks is ready for raids
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https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9ou-1930694587-ntck9tmp5b2khqprvyqak66fdbva75tpw getting out of 1700 took a million years
also super tough fight
mighty storm
why so many grimmsnarl raids today?
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@pseudo goblet I got 4 herba mystica now, should I go for sandygast?
pseudo goblet
What other option you have?
mighty storm
I mean there is a lot of other shinies I could go after
oh also my mew is all ready for the mewtwo raid ❤️
pseudo goblet
Sandygast i say 
mighty storm
alright sandygast it is
pseudo goblet
the edgy sand
mighty storm
straight from the hawaii beaches