As well as sandy shocks
#Pokemon
warm sky
Hmm, maybe I could use the weasel
https://twitter.com/CamilleCailloux/status/1630594441659531264?t=CFjPuFWvs4Y7KfslYn5oRw&s=19 speaking of wezl, @normal cave
normal cave
sounds like me yeah ||'cept I'd be hyped about the ribbons||
normal cave
Hmm, maybe I could use the weasel
ice shard go brr
but then you have like 3/4 choice item users on your team
gonna be tricky with the switches
speaking of walking wake
my current team has been bonking sun teams
warm sky
Yeaaah
It's hard to think what I could run
normal cave
turns out walking wake and azu are both awesome counters to walking wake
just swap scizor to swords dance honestly
then you have a slow u-turner that can function as a setup sweeper
LO scizor still hits like a truck, and swords dance lets it function as a late game "cleek boolit poonch" sweeper
it can threaten to sweep an entire team with just one bad swap from your opponent
it takes minimal effort to set up
and it can serve as a slow, bulky pivot to get out fast and fragile threats like gengar and wezl
all without being choice locked
committing to specs and two bands is just going to make your team a clunkfest, but turning one of those bands into a life orb solves it
weavile kinda needs the extra damage because it is frail as fuck ig, but it works nice as a revenge killer, and works great with slow u-turns off scizor
also, completely unrelated but someone decided to leave in a weakened torkoal vs peliper
they didn't know about the surf
normal cave
that works too, I just love bulky pivot scizor with sd
and weavile doesn't have the bulk to really set up a swords dance if something stays in
warm sky
It's more about
normal cave
scizor can just eat a move and swords dance, and it can provide a slow u-turn into a threat like banded weavile or gengar
warm sky
Predicting a switch
normal cave
scizor does that too
warm sky
Scarf variants 2hko's you
warm sky
or gastro its ass, no?
Could, but tbh dragon dance is spooky and terra grass for shocks if not predicted is 
Might do quag instead if needed tho
Unaware good
warm sky
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9uu-1812455000-kgco3k7pwca19y2sixu0pbv7ifz...
At the least the theory of my team is correct lmao
normal cave
I'm kinda just losestreaking to learn the tier
normal cave
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9uu-1812482653 behold, the meme which is assault vest trailblaze scizor
I wanted a grass move on the team and this thing just went brrr
warm sky
Yeah trailblaze might be better huh
normal cave
this thing just cheeses wins if they lead with a water/ground
warm sky
I'll just for now test as is, then after a few losses see what I need to do lmao
warm sky
Okay yeah no traiblaze is needed
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9uu-1812520271-u9f54ftgmuspvsudmc8ma49dmk0a6xlpw @normal cave lost my first one because I underestimated my opponent wanting to keep salamence in vs weavile and expected a switch lmao.
But won the second one somehow
warm sky
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9uu-1812558485-zpzokrn6j3zw01dz764l3xvezn0rn0apw
Who the fuck was I facing, Penny?
normal cave
that is her exact team, yes
warm sky
Oh my god I did the dirtiest thing
switch Gengar in on Fortress
It explodes for nothing
Opp switches in Lokix (last mon)
Predict sucker punch so trick scarf
Sacrifice Gengar next turn
Curse Body triggers
Imagine being forced to struggle vs Terra Steel Scizor and Tinkaton
Also considering if I should replace twave on tink with a better move
And if I should replace sludge bomb on gastrodon with ice beam
Also yeah trailblaze is probably a good idea, but better on AV sets like you ran when you playtested it for me Foolish 
Also maybe I should change the evs on scizor because idk what 60 speed evs are actually for
Like 16 speed EV Bisharp maybe???
Like is there any mon with base 72 speed you NEED to outside as Scizor?
mighty storm
pseudo goblet
flat sedge
bleak pine
Bagon and Axew
mighty storm
mighty storm
https://twitter.com/touyarokii/status/1631128130726543360?s=46&t=q-1AmjVFLGCcEVW...
Bagon and Dratini stay
bleak pine
Dynamax would have been too perfect
pseudo goblet
https://twitter.com/touyarokii/status/1631128130726543360?s=46&t=q-1AmjVFLGCcEVW...
Okay first, Evil 
Second, think my answer is Goomy and Gible, one is for cuteness, one for battle
bleak pine
Most my like for Bagon really stems from it's lore behind it
It wants more than anything else to fly, but it cannot. So it jumps off cliffs regularly to try and practice.
mighty storm
I relate to Bagon, and Dratini is ocean friend
bleak pine
It becomes something that's in an even worse situation since it can't move around so well when it evolved into Shelgon.
But thanks to it's wishes, it finally evolves and has what it wanted all along: Wings
pseudo goblet
I relate to Bagon, and Dratini is ocean friend
Fun fact, Dragonite Japanese name is Kairyu, which is just ‘sea dragon’
bleak pine
For such a ruthless dragon, it's just a heartwarming story
mighty storm
facts
bleak pine
Most other dragons tend to be crush rage roar or something
...And I mean, Salamence isn't too different there, but
Comparatively Axew and it's ilk are very gentle.
pseudo goblet
Fun fact, Dragonite Japanese name is Kairyu, which is just ‘sea dragon’
And then Chinese butchered the named the dragon ‘快龙’(fast-dragon) only because the word sound like Kairyu when said…
bleak pine
Fraxure is the only outlier since it tends to pick fights with other Fraxure for territory, but Haxorus is just a cinnamon roll.
Truth be told though I really am not fond of a whole lot of dragon types. Seems the developers, whoever they are got it into their head that most all dragon-types have to be 600 BST beatsticks.
A few specialize in different fields, yeah, but most of them can just be summed up as "big stat stick"
I miss when we had some other "big stat sticks" that were not just Dragon-type, like Tyranitar and Metagross.
pseudo goblet
It would be interesting to see GF give us a fairy type pseudo, guessing it might bully most of those pseudos before it 
bleak pine
Make it based on Titania or something and we got a deal
Yeah, a fairy type except it really, really is kinda a dick to dragons of all kinds
I know Sylveon exists, who will drop everything and try to maim a dragon if it sees one.
pseudo goblet
If they stick with Dragon, give us one base on Gomora, since some of the pseudos have Tokusatsu elements already
Okay actually, seeing Zetton here is giving me some Psychic type Pokémon idea
pseudo goblet
Yeah, a fairy type except it really, really is kinda a dick to dragons of all ki...
Funny how they successfully made the fairy type how they wanted it to be lmao
bleak pine
Yeah, it's just perfect how fairy types are actually based on how Fairies mostly were like in the stories
Tricky things that may or may not be your friend. Mostly the latter.
You can def see this with some of them like Granbull (Although it is a cinnamon roll), Hatterene, Grimmsnarl and a few others
pseudo goblet
Hmm… Granbull, since the games we been getting have a lot of Gen 2 revisit, guessing Granbull getting a new evo with more fairy-ness is needed
sand forge
https://twitter.com/touyarokii/status/1631128130726543360?s=46&t=q-1AmjVFLGCcEVW...
Why's Noivern getting this heat
pseudo goblet
@mighty storm @daring pine https://youtu.be/cGoaqiT3OS0
I just love how, those who knows momotaro can immediately tell what these are all about, like, there’s almost no disagreement that I’ve seen so far
bleak pine
Yeah, it's super nice how they seem to be based on that story
daring pine
donbros sweep
bleak pine
It's a nice folk tale
daring pine
wait so who is the momotaros
mighty storm
my guess, us
bleak pine
Little guy with a lot of strength
mighty storm
the 3 companions are heroes in the pokemon world, we probably get help from them to take on ogerpon
so we figuratively are momotaros
daring pine
<:nyaruhodo:873056991973634078> my guess, us
we were born from a peach, don momotaros? (kanto ichi)
pseudo goblet
donbros sweep
I’m so used to SaruBrother I’m not used to average skinny monkey lmao
daring pine
ye
pseudo goblet
daring pine
im used to blue yellow black pink
blue monke, black doggo, pink eyebrows of pheasant
the only outlier is oni being green
imagine if oni was yellow
my brain will explode
pseudo goblet
imagine if oni was yellow
Look forward to the shiny reveal I guess 
daring pine
fingers cross
bleak pine
Alright, just gonna get one tiny spoiler headed my way, as a question:
||I know that this "leak" might be false, but is there anything in there about Blaziken returning? Just wondering, since I'm not taking a look at the rest of it, in case it very well may be legitimate||
pseudo goblet
Think I remember ||seeing the chicken in the list||
bleak pine
||Ah, sweet. Thanks. Only one I'm gonna ask on!||
||The kickboxing chicken is like, my brand. Really.||
daring pine
i cannot confirm or deny
warm sky
Killed the bird with Raichu in my scarlet locke
placid junco
https://twitter.com/touyarokii/status/1631128130726543360?s=46&t=q-1AmjVFLGCcEVW...
Jangmo-o and goomy
Easy
placid junco
Fear
warm sky
https://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/9/91/Spr_7s_774.png
I still hate that the first random shiny I ever found was a shiny minior in gen 7
placid junco
It’s even worse because in Gen 7 they know self destruct around when you catch them
warm sky
YEAH SO ABOUT THAT
placid junco
Pain
warm sky
Damn..
Crit from Giacomo killed my Phanpy (Ganipati) I switched in to take a hit so I could heal Marianne (my Kricketune)
latent sleet
wdym of course thats a cat
golden lance
wait, trubbish is a cat?
Funnily enough, yes
obsidian juniper
Seen to much
warm sky
Though Espurr's expression never changes, behind that blank stare is an intense struggle to contain its devastating psychic power.
It has enough psychic energy to blast everything within 300 feet of itself, but it has no control over its power.
So that
vagrant steppe
Oh so he's literally seen too much
vagrant steppe
True, they've seen the heat death of the universe
latent sleet
or xatu
normal cave
Also considering if I should replace twave on tink with a better move
seriously, encore has been massive in the tinkaton mirror for me
I keep feeling like something is missing from the team tho
normal cave
twave is strong tho
pseudo goblet
normal cave
she looks so confused
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9ou-1812993567-b1nqpr36fswdvuy94efupi4yp08es5mpw tough game, azu clutched it
was over if I lost peli or they lost gastro
maiden flax
pseudo goblet
💀
pseudo goblet
normal cave
everything is better with tatsugiri
I would have liked this mon's design if it were not for the mane
pseudo goblet
Skinny raptor
tacit sphinx
https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-espeon-eevee-evolutions-sprigatito-gif-25587985
Hey guys, did you know in terms of Eeveelution and Sprigatito patting, Espeon is the most —
tacit sphinx
Sprigatito is exhibiting orange cat behaviour
pseudo goblet
Hey guys, did you know in terms of Eeveelution and Sprigatito patting, Espeon is...
Speaking of that https://youtube.com/shorts/Uv58jBFwZrs?feature=share
normal cave
darkrai>pidge>sylv>emp imo
the first three are really good, don't like the emp one
the darkrai one looks so clean tho
pseudo goblet
Darkrai/Sylveon>Pidgeot>Empoleon for me
pseudo goblet
Meh, I’m trained at this specific subject https://youtu.be/-lvk-6h762c
Actually I’m surprised she hasn’t done one for Paldea yet
Probably not wanting to make mistake and actually wait for the whole Paldea dex to complete
pseudo goblet
random stream
Out of that list deino and blissey
warm sky
God I am DREADING Iono for my nuzlocke.
Mismagius is terrifying
I need to RNG Cyclizar
normal cave
new changes I did to team did NOT help at all
Azu is good at dealing with walking wake, but overall, scizor worked better
the problem is that I have no answer to wake with the old team
normal cave
also, cutting chomp for wake was a mistake, but again, chomp does not beat wake
pseudo goblet
Dark birbs
@warm sky have you seen Ceruledge animated yet? https://youtu.be/-JYRKGNk-qQ
warm sky
Yes
pseudo goblet
Ah okay
warm sky
tropius
Hate that bastard in random battles so much
spice rivet
I managed to bring back a VGC game 1 v 4 thanks to how stupid bulky and strong Iron Hands is lmao. Managed to set up a Swords Dance and had screens too. Also the dude over predicted and didn't think I'd go for Drain Punch on his Ttar 🤣
Also also in another game Tera Fire Gastrodon just dumpstered a man lol. Then he tried Hydro Pumping it too forgetting about Storm Drain
normal cave
that reminds me
@warm sky I'm running assault vest on the scizor
it's so funny. I got it to +2 speed, tanked a flamethrower off salamence, and then got the ko (they tera steeled so I could close combat it)
normal cave
salamence enjoyer
warm sky
Bagon cute
normal cave
it just wants to fly
warm sky
Ye
normal cave
also to be clear idt AV is better than swords dance on scizor
it's just really funny to tank fire moves with scizor
lucid moth
warm sky
I genuinely don't know why from the sets I stole Scizor has 60-64 speed EV's
I don't remember any specific speed tier
Maybe it's for trailblaze?
Like without trailblaze you outspeed base 72 uninvested mons. But I don't know what speed tier you need to beat for that?
lucid moth
maybe its the grainy screenshot but that doesnt look cool
the fire looks way too cartoony
bleak pine
If a Graveler can be expected to pull off a shutout victory against a Starmie, I got confidence Sprigatito can body Ceruledge. 
mighty storm
Outspeed bite crit for win
mighty storm
facts
warm sky
mighty storm
https://twitter.com/zakochirashi/status/1630589288848179202?t=0ZpaOUDbBk7SCiqouU...
That Paldean Wooper looking at the bath like "Mmm, HP"
normal cave
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9uu-1813606493 actual most wholesome showdown interaction
also tinkaton mvp
warm sky
God I had to PP Stall Mismagius to beat Iono with no deaths
normal cave
0 deaths lesgo
mighty storm
https://twitter.com/tikamatsuno/status/1631577819234054144?s=46&t=q-1AmjVFLGCcEV...
Zane why you leaking Purelly support?
pseudo goblet
Ah, my bad
mighty storm
all is good, yeah was just joking about how the fidough art reminded me of purrely from yugioh
harsh path
Fidough looking at baked goods must be horrifying
normal cave
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9uu-1813687450 was this a bot
just ignored stealth rock and encore
long stone
https://twitter.com/zakochirashi/status/1630589288848179202?t=0ZpaOUDbBk7SCiqouU...
yo boiled Wooper...
warm sky
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9uu-1813877617-3a8t3j6zepfiz8lt1pr8c3qher91bs3pw
@normal cave I might he a low tier scrub, but at the least I can still win
normal cave
warm sky
Yeah considering quag too, but unsure
Also got swept by a tauros watee because I didn't expect it to terra into dark and also havw trailblaze so fuck lmao
normal cave
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9uu-1813888410 The ol' bullet punch into close combat trick works every time 
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9uu-1813891550 @warm sky encore is so good
tinkaton in general is so good
warm sky
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9uu-1813891550 <@131023596607897600> encor...
Yeah I would've won a few times had I just encored the Salamence lmaooo
normal cave
it's so good
also amazing vs the tink mirror
locking them into knock off or gigaton hammer means they have to switch
...or anything, really
long stone
pseudo goblet
Primal mimikyu with mammal skin
normal cave
it's mimikyu with a different costume
yeah, honestly, I'd lean heavier into the primal materials and use an actual skull and bones
this just looks like the same character deciding to dress different on halloween
the ol' dinosaur costume
long stone
aren't most paradox just that
normal cave
the tail also looks realistic, unlike the rest
hmm, not exactly
they change the actual character
here, because the character is wearing a costume, you're just changing the costume and leaving it the same
pseudo goblet
Somehow there’s no Great Tusk gif I can use 💀
normal cave
all the elements of what the character is remain the same.
long stone
eitherway it's not like paradox mons are real, they can be whatever and uh. it' not like they look like what's in the sketch either
lyric pollen
~~eitherway it's not like paradox mons are real, they can be whatever and uh. it...
huge believer in this
long stone
paradox suicune cannot be real
anyway even the name paradox implies they shouldn't exist
pseudo goblet
Y’all know what I realize, they missed the biggest chance they have to remake/revisit that Oni-Pikachu evo that was scrapped
normal cave
but that's the issue
it's mimikyu
it's just standard mimikyu with a different taste in clothing
normal cave
it's also mimikyu from this modern age because it uses modern materials
long stone
but it isn't. the thing is a dragon (the dragon parts are real) not a custom
lyric pollen
the mimikyu underneath could look totally different wym
you just cant see it to tell
normal cave
then make it obvious
long stone
you are too picky tbh
pseudo goblet
you just cant see it to tell <:nyaruhodo:873056991973634078>
One way and another
pseudo goblet
Pat Moon*
normal cave
you are too picky tbh
"you're nitpicky and biased, I win"
warm sky
You know, I am surprised we didn't get a paradox Pikachu that's just Gorochu
pseudo goblet
You know, I am surprised we didn't get a paradox Pikachu that's just Gorochu
IKR
Like, god, was it Gen 7 or Gen 8 that rumored Gorochu will be revisit, 8 I believe, but nope, now GF missed again with Paradox
sand forge
Or Mega Raichu
cunning osprey
I kinda wish pokemon gives us a 6v6 battle format
sand forge
1 Oricorio, 2 quiver dancers, 1 wide guard, 1 quick guard, 1 follow me
Oricorio dances it's ass off and sweeps
mighty storm
dlc spoilers, but yeah Khu confirms we are getting ||special tera forms for certain pokemon, who do you want to get one?||
warm sky
||Starters will get one for their secondary type||
placid junco
Update your ||charizard squidward memes|| everybody
daring pine
Looks cool
normal cave
was gonna say "where's the lokix theming" but then I saw the "heracross form"
good stuff
sand forge
||Starters will get one for their secondary type||
But ||Blastoise doesn't have a secondary typing|| 
warm sky
But ||Blastoise doesn't have a secondary typing|| <:peepojuice:52775821709541376...
Meant ||sv starters lmao||
sand forge
I know lol
sand forge
Twas only a joke, no biggie
normal cave
ask
tacit sphinx
i hit random and got this
normal cave
some of the fusions look really good. some are memes.
tacit sphinx
some are like custom sprites i think?
normal cave
yeah
normal cave
the ones which aren't are pretty obvious
because you can see that the sprites have been stretched
sleek eagle
My switch online runs out in a couple of hours
Time to do some raids before it runs out
normal cave
every time someone rediscovers Infinite Fusion people gush over the sprites
...can't say I blame them
the fusion sprites are the best thing about the game
pseudo goblet
latent sleet
sick
normal cave
it's goddamn beautiful
sleek eagle
Suicune is a dog
spice rivet
young river
placid junco
Dang that’s pretty chunky for a basic Pokémon that evolves right
vagrant steppe
Damn we're at 90 HP first stages?
normal cave
pokemon hp powercreep do be wild
crimson moat
I mean 90 HP isn't terribly a lot for first stages nowadays
90 HP first stage's most relevant thing is level ball
ie. the newest Growlithe is also 90 HP
Dondozo's 160 HP for a basic is more impressive given it has a competent attacking move
Sadly very little from base SV onward is/looks relevant or even interesting
spice rivet
I remember when the non-GX Metagross from the era having 170HP was considered great lol. Pokemon has such awful powercreep.
crimson moat
I remember when the non-GX Metagross from the era having 170HP was considered g...
I mean the HP creep is pretty bad but I would more say the worst parts of it were gen 5's EX mechanic and Gen 7's Tag Team mechanic
spice rivet
Amazing how a game with rotation has so much power creep
crimson moat
Tag Team significantly fucked up power creep
spice rivet
TTGX were one of the biggest mistakes in the game
crimson moat
Because that power creep carried over into VMax
spice rivet
i Despise them
crimson moat
And just like what happened with VMax, it took til nearly Tag Team's rotation for them to have a solid foothold in the metagame
You had Dragapult, Eternatus, and Centiskorch which were outpaced by ADPZ, LMZ, Reshizard, Pikarom.
Pikarom was basically the best deck in the game for almost its entire existence in standard
Dragapult also only existed in the meta for like 1 pack, because Eternatus and Centiskorch kicked it out.
The first VMax deck to have real, raw meta relevancy wouldn't be until Rapid Strike Urshifu
Now, the process is repeating with SV and ex's getting outdone by the old meta
placid junco
I feel like I’m missing something with Centiskorch
crimson moat
I feel like I’m missing something with Centiskorch
Welder made it relevant
placid junco
Ah
spice rivet
Ya, also apparently things are going to absolutely awful in terms of pull rates for the Alt Art and no one is happy about it. SVstarting with a thud
crimson moat
Centi basically died as soon as Welder rotated
Eternatus fell flat on its ass at Chilling Reign too
Path to the Peak destroyed that deck's aggro play
Galarian Weezing/Eternatus has had 1 lucky break after that
crimson moat
Right now, Japan's metagame, which isn't the worst or best indicator of western metagame, is:
Lost Box and Mew VMax on top
Then Lugia/Single Strike
Then Gardevoir ex
Then Arceus variants
God, fuck what Mew VMax did to people's mentality on the game
Single biggest fucking mistake of a theme from Sword/Shield
placid junco
Ngl I really like Centiskorch as a Pokémon even if it’s super mediocre and will probably never get its badass Gmax ever again
warm sky
snow oasis
sleek eagle
Right now, Japan's metagame, which isn't the *worst* or best indicator of wester...
Gardevoir with what? Shadow rider? Whimsicott?
Also mew vmax should just be limited at this point
Pokémon needs a limited list
crimson moat
Gardevoir ex with Zacian V and other tech psychic attackers
sleek eagle
crimson moat
Once you get up 1 Gardevoir ex, you no longer have to worry about energy since Gardevoir just attaches it all from the discard
sleek eagle
It works pretty well with a shadow rider vmax tho
Can deal out huge damage
But ye
I need gardevoir ex
crimson moat
The main thing being that Zacian V is the easiest energy attacker to set up since it is a basic
crimson moat
Yup
sleek eagle
The one i actually have
crimson moat
Tech attackers so far are mainly Galarian Articuno (Snipe 120) and Cresselia (The one that can move 20 damage from each of your pokemon to any of your opponent's pokemon)
sleek eagle
Tech attackers so far are mainly Galarian Articuno (Snipe 120) and Cresselia (Th...
So the calyrex league battle deck
- gardevoir
crimson moat
Essentially that but with a more direct wincon
Since it doesn't use a VStar attack, it plays Sky Seal Stone as well
What's sad is that it is clearly the best Stage 2 ex to come out so far
Nothing else even compares
Most other stage 2 ex families require multiple stage 2s to keep momentum going
Or are shit like Ampharos ex
I want to live on Skeledirge ex copium, but that's because it is a massive tank that doesn't suffer from needing multiple stage 2s
The problem with him is that the only good HP restore card for him is Cheryl
So it is a slow af deck concept
bleak pine
Gardevoir ex just has so much stuff it can do
You can use the tried and true Shining Arcana ones from CRE as well
And the Kirlia from SIT can keep you drawing cards
Def looking forward to it releasing soon
crimson moat
Silver Tempest
tacit sphinx
I wish Pokemon TCG had legacy sims
golden lance
I mean the HP creep is pretty bad but I would more say the worst parts of it wer...
If you think about it, the thing that snowballed gen 7's powercreep beyond control was zoroark gx
normal cave
zoro 
bleak pine
And yeah, it’s been agreed upon that when it comes right down to it, not a whole lot of people liked what Tag-Team GX did to the power ceiling
V was new and exciting but outside very few V, nobody gave a crap
And it seems that outside of a few other cards it’ll remain with VSTAR vs. ex
Although at the very least there’s been a few good ex, like Miraidon ex and Gardevoir ex
normal cave
the only thing I like about Zoro GX was that Zoro/Sylv was such a fun deck
it was quad sylv but so much faster
bleak pine
Seems the only V people really cared about in the beginning was Zacian V, and that was really due to it being a metal-type beatstick that just so happens to work very well with Arceus-Dialga-Palkia GX
normal cave
quad sylv was a drug
bleak pine
Ahh
normal cave
don't do drugs kids
don't do 1 hour games where you have to shuffle your deck every turn and plan what you want to search and use for the next 3 turns
bleak pine
You couldn’t exactly be too upset with Pikachu-Zekrom GX, which I guess was chalked up to the face of Pokemon pairing up with possibly the most popular box legendary out of the series as a whole
Same with Charizard-Reshiram GX to an extent
But man, I really can’t remember anyone who even liked Arceus-Dialga-Palkia GX
silver vigil
sleek eagle
Although at the very least there’s been a few good ex, like Miraidon ex and Gard...
Koraidon ex is a decent support for a fighting deck its just fighting never gets any good support
crimson moat
Fighting doesn't have any worthwhile attackers for a deck to run that aren't Great Tusk ex
The problem is Koraidon is only useful turn 1 for setting up and then is horrible to use any turn after
Fighting's other energy acceleration card is bad, too
pure furnace
Imo, Walking Wake is in the perfect metagame to be as oppressive as it is, no Fini, no Ferro, limited Toxic distribution (can't run Sub CM if it had to account for it), and the limited dex in general. Not saying it wouldn't be banworthy once more mons come back via DLC, but if it does get banned here, I'd like to see it get revisited down the line like some of the other early bans this gen
sacred hatch
gen 10 Pansear Torkoal and serperior with legs
is there already a grassy crocodile pokemon
im not recalling one off the top of my head
tacit sphinx
is there already a grassy crocodile pokemon
Venusaur is like
kind of a crocodile maybe
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Venusaur is like
kind of a crocodile maybe
venusaur is a frog
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https://64.media.tumblr.com/03c6b3f3f0676964f20af1db03f607d7/tumblr_inline_pcyjjp2WyF1qh5tvf_540.gif
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BKC is nice 
pseudo goblet
👮
mighty storm
they'll pay for it
pseudo goblet
in prison
mighty storm
dont arrest egghead
pseudo goblet
the egg did nothing wrong, but the Gator however 👮
So for that reason, egg will be separated from gator until he’s out of prison, legally
maiden flax
Its interesting how armorouge and ceruledge were originally thought to not be good enough for ou are now both ou viable
pseudo goblet
Oh really
sand forge
Its interesting how armorouge and ceruledge were originally thought to not be go...
Purely through the removal of the offensive ruins?
maiden flax
Purely through the removal of the offensive ruins?
Essentially yeah
That said walking wake might hurt the viability of armorouge
pseudo goblet
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maiden flax
Thars a cracked gengar lol
outer eagle
if i got a nickle every time Ren shows a Special Attacker with a Quiet Nature, i'd have 2 nickels 
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Clef hard carried vs lance @outer eagle lefties + slack off
But he had some ultra scary pokes, gengar helped too
outer eagle
that's a lot of screenshots 
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Uhh tldr a lot of slack off stalling to outheal his damage
giratina almost ended my run but nidoking knock off then pivot into gengar spooky judgment saved it
I needed clef at high health for his last 3 pokes
outer eagle
behind having a setup sweeper as a lead, having a fat mon as a pivot is the second best option
outer eagle
75% is 75%
pseudo goblet
That’s a lot of image 
Yes I know Ryuji said the same thing
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spice rivet
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FqctEjRXwAACknh?format=png&name=small
Goblin Mode
Goblin dat food
Gottem
pseudo goblet
maiden flax
https://i.redd.it/e4vecir43kka1.jpg
The current king of random battles: moody scovillain
pseudo goblet
maiden flax
Finally made my list
placid junco
Good tastes
pseudo goblet
Finally made my list
Huh, cryonogal for gen 5 ice, that’s nice actually
maiden flax
Cryogonal is cool
maiden flax
sleek eagle
Thx
cunning osprey
I wonder why Satoshi Tajiri never confirmed if he is autistic or not
warm sky
Because that's up to him to decide???
cunning osprey
you think he despell the rumor it weren't true
since its a commonly reported fact these days
maiden flax
Correction: its a wildly spread rumour that some people think is fact despite barely any evidence supporting it*
cunning osprey
well fact is something that can be proven true or false
void herald
it's really not any of our business
pseudo goblet
Why is Rika’s little interview thing as intense as the real ones 😂
bleak pine
It is very tense, yeah
No furnishings in the interview room aside from Rika's desk and the chair you sit on, the eye contact... just, Rika in general.
sand forge
Scovillain is so annoying
bleak pine
"By the powers of naughtiness, I command this particular drop of hot sauce to be really, REALLY hot!"
pseudo goblet
Reached Geeta, not nervous since I heard she’s not hard
bleak pine
It is unfortunate. I really liked Geeta, too.
After that incredible and tough battle against Leon in Sword/Shield, this felt somewhat of a let-down.
pseudo goblet
Also honestly, I’ve been oneshot-ing a lot of elite four pokemons
Just one shot Espartha too
Ooh, Gogoat took a U turn well
bleak pine
Espartha's friggin' dangerous, so that one-hit KO was pretty timely.
And yeah, Gogoat is jacked.
Doesn't look like much but it's stats are about on par with many mons that can evolve twice.
pseudo goblet
Kingambit huh, Dead monkey is up
bleak pine
But, who knows, maybe in-story, Geeta really is the top of the line, even ahead of some other prominent trainers in other regions.
Not the first time this could be the case, either.
pseudo goblet
Maybe~ lv up my mon to at least Lv 65 was a bad idea 😂
Meowscarada are now lv 68 even
And~ that’s an one shot for her Glimmora
bleak pine
Winner!
pseudo goblet
Alright, last time I used a Florigato against Nemona’s Quaquaval… worse kind of victory ever, payback time
I just realize, I just beaten all three paths final boss, but I’ve yet to make any sandwiches in this game 😅
My Pokémons must’ve been starving
Fixing that rn
sleek eagle
And~ that’s an one shot for her Glimmora
Geetas team is bad lol
Using glimmora last is basically auto lose
lusty tiger
Wait is Talonflame good in OU Rain now?
lucid moth
priority specs hurricane
even off 74 spatk
hits kinda hard u know
basically a nearly perfect cleanup
lusty tiger
ohhhh
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placid junco
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1042954513495101450/1082417901413355622/FqdUxgsWcAI1tT8.png
hexed valley
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Yooo Diglett
mighty storm
Scovillain is so annoying
I have a shiny of its prevo
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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1042954513495101450/1082417901413355622...
real talk, Ledian needs a future paradox
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643 turns
"not gg"
why the fuck didn't you leave then
the nerve of some people
if you hate the format or don't enjoy the specific match, don't play. just quit. no shame in that. throwing petty complaints at your opponent over a game, shame.
warm sky
I assume it was just a joke foolish
https://twitter.com/koya83184827/status/1632505756862775296?t=Eo2BcBX0S2RZzdcmkXbAdg&s=19
Twitter
normal cave
only thing that says "joke" to me here is the elo, implying they played multiple games of the format and thus enjoy it
but people still hurl insults at higher elo so idk. it's too subtle for my smooth wezl brain.
maiden flax
So
Adding to this:
He died to a psychic type move
Keeps falling from pitfall traps
Cant handle blizzards
Ash is a dragon/poison type
pseudo goblet
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ngl none of these appeal to me
Chromizard comes the closest ig, but the other two lose too much of their original charm to look tough and edgey
pseudo goblet
pseudo goblet
@normal cave look what I found 🥪
normal cave
me smich
I am now a delicious and filling meal that can be held comfortably when consumed
normal cave
damn, you're right
mighty storm
I have a shiny typhlosion alpha in PLA
random stream
Nice
sand forge
https://youtube.com/shorts/Dx5G5EM7sBs?feature=share
This channel makes me appreciate how hard it is to name Pokémon
Icysaur is a horrible name
As is Dustoise
golden lance
https://twitter.com/koya83184827/status/1632491359817834496?t=uSmbPjAjepp1lXqxel...
The RBY OU Experience™️
sleek eagle
Icysaur is a horrible name
Yes
sleek eagle
As is Dustoise
Dust Blaster (paradox style) is better imo
sleek eagle
Yeah thats good
golden lance
i wish they made more mons like blastoise
as in "has blatant artillery attached to them"
give me the pokemon version of gundramon, cowards
sleek eagle
as in "has blatant artillery attached to them"
Gmax inteleon?
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that one just has really long fingers
sleek eagle
give me the pokemon version of gundramon, cowards
Digimon is so much less censored i love it
golden lance
doesn't really count tbh
sand forge
I forget the name of the Digimon looking Grass starter
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chesnaught
sand forge
Ye
sleek eagle
Chesnaught?
sand forge
Digimon-lookin ass
golden lance
because agumon is allowed to evolve, yes
sleek eagle
Skullgreymon my beloved
sand forge
Omnimon is hella cool it's true
sleek eagle
Yes
golden lance
ShineGreymon my beloved
normal cave
I watched the weird digimon movie as a kid
sleek eagle
Same
normal cave
was fun when I had no clue what was going on and was too young to care
normal cave
ngl that looks so sick
sleek eagle
https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/sZQVLdDXdraxH5EqmWjYmWejjqNvdtAH0BS...
Shouldn't it be mirrored to be omnimon
I need this tho
golden lance
Shouldn't it be mirrored to be omnimon
sword is on the left arm
golden lance
might be becuase the color pallete is mirrored
sleek eagle
Ye
golden lance
true!
sleek eagle
Calyrex isn't a proper fusion
golden lance
dawn wings/dusk mane are so cool
sleek eagle
Although now i want to design a centaur calyrex
sand forge
Make a horsetaur Glastrier/Spectrier fusion
sleek eagle
pseudo goblet
ShineGreymon my beloved
sleek eagle
Honestly i want to fuse xerneas and yveltal
Might be cursed as heck but It'll be funny
sand forge
A better way to do the Gen 8 fusions would've been fusing some of the pre-existing fossils imo
Deliberately though
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archeops aerodactyl
sleek eagle
You wanna fuse omastar and kabutops and break reality be my guest?
sand forge
Obviously there's too many to have them all have a fusion
sleek eagle
Because Domelix would be funny
sand forge
Too much work for Game Freak
golden lance
rampardos tyrantrum also works i think
omastar carracosta might be a bit of a stretch but
sleek eagle
Hear me out
Archeops and tyrantrum
pseudo goblet
So we coming up with Gen 8 style fossils here?
maiden flax
one is a fossil circle
sleek eagle
Ye
outer eagle
fusing Archeops and Aerodactyl would be based
pseudo goblet
sleek eagle
Actually there's only 9 fossil lines
No 11
golden lance
and fused aerodactyl and tyrantrum
sand forge
Ah mb
sleek eagle
Gen 1,3,4,5,6 + aero
pseudo goblet
and fused aerodactyl and tyrantrum
T rex with wings?
golden lance
yes
pseudo goblet
sand forge
Aurorus + Aerodactyl for Sail Wing
pseudo goblet
tyrantrum is a dragon type already
Huh, that works
sand forge
Or at the very least give the Gen 8 fossils a Sylvally-style evolution where they smooth out the horror a bit
pseudo goblet
Aerodactyl + Auroras in my head looks pretty
pseudo goblet
Winged tentacles
pseudo goblet
Nah man, mad at their idea source
pseudo goblet
pseudo goblet
Almost everything has an excuse, even abominations
normal cave
dracozolt looks like the only one that isn't living a life of hell
and even then, just barely
I do love it, tho
pseudo goblet
Funny how Dracovish are the ‘most wrong’ one yet it’s the most loved one
normal cave
thank the anime
pseudo goblet
Helped by anime I guess, and some other factor
normal cave
also, it's the strongest one
pseudo goblet
^
normal cave
dracovish had fishious rend and strong jaw, making it an absolute beast
also swift swim if you went that route
just obliterate stuff
sand forge
Give me Aurora Wing and we'll call it even, Game Freak
normal cave
dracozolt was held back by hustle being a really poor ability
pseudo goblet
sleek eagle
Infinite fusion
normal cave
and by sand not being as stupid as rain with how it strengthens the move
maiden flax
Arctovish ended up actually being pretty good lol
normal cave
arctovish did?
pseudo goblet
Arctovish ended up actually being pretty good lol
Btw who also got fooled by Arctovish’s head when first met it, until you found out where the mouth is
sand forge
I feel like if you can only fuse each Pokémon once
maiden flax
Wait i meant arctozolt
normal cave
ah,
sand forge
You'd have to fuse Omastar and Cradilly
normal cave
was it in trick room?
maiden flax
Arctovish was the weakest one
normal cave
I remember arctozolt doing something
maiden flax
near the end of the gen 8 meta hail ended up a pretty decent option due to alolan ninetails + aurora veil and arctozolt having slush rush + bolt beak just helped
pseudo goblet
You'd have to fuse Omastar and Cradilly
Here’s your anime fantasy
maiden flax
It wasnt in ou but it was ou viable
sand forge
Why is Fossilised Plesiosaur translated into Fossilised Dino
Plesiosaur aren't dinosaurs
golden lance
yea, thinking about it arctozolt was the first ever offensive ice electric mon
normal cave
Here’s your anime fantasy
my favorite is omastar/lapras
pseudo goblet
yea, thinking about it arctozolt was the first ever offensive ice electric mon
We have ice electric before it?
maiden flax
Rotom
golden lance
fridge rotom
maiden flax
Ice is a good offensive type but a terrible defensive one
Youll notice all the good ice types have been offensive ones
pseudo goblet
my favorite is omastar/lapras
JESUS!
golden lance
The forgettable mon if you don’t play competitive
even if you do
maiden flax
Froslass would be a good mon if it didnt have the offensive stats of a wet paper towel
pseudo goblet
normal cave
this is the one I used
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had better stats iirc
pseudo goblet
Custom I think
normal cave
custom
maiden flax
Abomasnow before the snow buff in the lower tiers was always used offensively which is funny
sand forge
Oh that's cool
normal cave
I used it on my stall team
nice, bulky hazard setter
iirc it got toxic spikes, so I could stack those up and send out sheddy fusions
normal cave
idk what's up with that
sand forge
Was Poseidon said to be four-arms?
Four Arms is from Ben 10
pseudo goblet
Back to Gen 8 fossil, I genuinely don’t want to farm Draco fossil in Sword, again
Are they implying sword and shield are different universe to each other, that the odds to find ONE SPECIFIC FOSSIL are harder in one of the universe… like what, this universe’s Draco didn’t get fossilised properly or something
bleak pine
Was Poseidon said to be four-arms?
The new Aquaman movie looks sick.
placid junco
mighty storm
Here’s your anime fantasy
what if this, but without the neck park 
pseudo goblet
A weird omastar
pseudo goblet
This makes me want more lava/magma base Pokémon, Magcargo in this fusion thing is such a good material
Heck, try Magcargo+Lapras or Salamance, looks so cool
mighty storm
what mons do you hope for in the dlc?
specifically new/regional variant
I want a convergent "not a shellos"
normal cave
future furret that is stated to be designed as "An artificial cuddle buddy" or "A sentient neck warmer that loves hugs"
bleak pine
Simple regional forms are alright
Though, might not be so much as a 'Paldean' forme, as it is a 'Kitakami' forme
Little unsure what would be fitting, since there's bound to be a lot of mons that are inspired from folklore already present (Ninetales, Shiftry, Chimecho)
...Although, I would love it if Chimecho finally got an evolution, in the vein of Farigiraf and Annhilape
mighty storm
future furret that is stated to be designed as "An artificial cuddle buddy" or "...
this is the best thing to ever be written
normal cave
what are convergents?
mighty storm
what are convergents?
Mons that look like other mons as a joke
normal cave
oh
normal cave
toedscruel is a very useful mon
I kknow
when multiple stuff evolve to simillar things independantly
mighty storm
so I would be very happy with a shellos even if it was oh idk Jellos
normal cave
but why would a fungus and a jellyfish do that
they are such vastly different organisms
mighty storm
ask the scientists who named it
golden lance
based off an actual biological phenomenon btw
Was there a reason to make a separate category just for them instead of just making them regional variants tho?
normal cave
regional variants are the opposite of convergent evolution
my issue is more with the execution
mighty storm
Was there a reason to make a separate category just for them instead of just mak...
Lore wise, they arent the same pokemon. Regional forms are explicitly said to have adapted
golden lance
My issue with it is that you could've just named Toescruel "Paldean Tentacruel" and no one would notice the difference
mighty storm
Me with crocodile and alligators
pseudo goblet
where is the jelly tho
pseudo goblet
im moreso talking about the wood-ear thing
normal cave
ah
pseudo goblet
btw i did not know its count as a fungus until i watch the video
bleak pine
Ramblin' Evil Mushroom
pseudo goblet
Coco brought out their Quick Claw
mighty storm
strawberry woop
sand forge
based off an actual biological phenomenon btw
You can keep saying this, it doesn't make it any more true
Additionally, we already have Pokémon based off convergent evolution
vagrant steppe
I like that Toedscruel actually has the worst ability possible
mycelium might is genuinely terrible
mighty storm
I like that Toedscruel actually has the worst ability possible
regigigas
vagrant steppe
Slow start is genuinely better than mycelium might
There comes a point where slow start stops actively harming you
Mycelium might literally always makes your mon worse
mighty storm
slow start is so bad, the game with no abilities kept it in
swift jasper
Because it's a balancing factor?
swift jasper
Besides, regi even had a brief stint in vgc iirc
Idt toadscruel would even with galarian weezing
vagrant steppe
Slow start is way less detrimental than mycelium might
mighty storm
I mean, its a post-game legendary in PLA where there is no competitive so they could've let it not have slow start.
swift jasper
And they decided that it's iconic and kept it
mighty storm
Regigigas doomed to be sleepy for eternity
pseudo goblet
Hopes on future Legends game poster legendary, going by gens
Mew
Celebi
Weather trio/the regis
Arceus
Kyurem
Zygarde
Necrozma
Calyrex/SwSh doggos
The Ruined treasures i suppose
placid junco
I think Kyurem is probably most likely
Followed by either alola legends zygarde or kalos legends zygarde
Preferably alola legends zygarde
pseudo goblet
wait the ruined treasures are like chinese related, doesnt feel right to a Paldea legends with these four if i think about it
placid junco
I mean
It depends on if you want to play through the process of sealing them up or not
harsh path
Eepygigas
pseudo goblet
what? am i missing something here? haven't got em in my scarlet yet
sand forge
Nah just why is the Iberian region getting Chinese & Japanese legendaries
Give us a Legends: Regigigas, with all the types given Regis
maiden flax
what? am i missing something here? haven't got em in my scarlet yet
well they have lore reasons for being there
but you have to take history class for that one
pseudo goblet
i literally didn't care about my country's history class, think i'll pass for now lol
maiden flax
i literally didn't care about my country's history class, think i'll pass for no...
i meant the history class in the game
pseudo goblet
oh right, never really hang around Mesagoza much throughout my save file
maiden flax
(the history class also gives you teleport points to the places where the treasures are too)
sand forge
Oh shit
pseudo goblet
im around the point to go explore area zero, does it take a lot of time?
maiden flax
a bit since you have to take the class and then talk to the teacher after the class she talks about the treasure
pseudo goblet
i mean like, the final boss of SV, anything i should know before going to Area Zero
maiden flax
nothing in particular
just that its very cool
pseudo goblet
good to know
Thinking if i want to give myself some handicaps after i wipe out the entire Elite 4 and the two champions
pseudo goblet
Do we have info on Terapagos's origin? other then Turtle and maybe the source of tera crystals
maiden flax
Do we have info on Terapagos's origin? other then Turtle and maybe the source of...
its shaped like a friend
Well someone noticed its the same shape as paldea
pseudo goblet
oh right, that
normal cave
I like that Toedscruel actually has the worst ability possible
being able to sleep gholdengo/garg is p hype
defeatist and slow start have no upside, while micelium might has some
it's still a huge downside
oh, and truant
skipping turns is not poggers
toedscruel's ability still sucks, but it sees more play than the likes of slacking and archeops afaik
wait, toedscruel also beats magic bounce, yes?
means you can set up hazards and even sleep hatte
idk how relevant its upside is in vgc, but ik singles are full of mons that are affected by it
harsh path
I can’t remember what besides Slaking and Slakoth has Truant
harsh path
That has got to be the Hidden Ability of all time
normal cave
you use truant durant with entrainment to cheese the battle facilities
because they don't swap, you use something like a dragonite with protect and dragon dance to set up
harsh path
The more you know
normal cave
useless vs actual players, but p useful in-game
harsh path
Reminds me of how funny ||Evice having Slaking and a Skill Swapper in Coliseum||
tacit sphinx
Reminds me of how funny ||Evice having Slaking and a Skill Swapper in Coliseum||
Evice’s team fucked
God tier video
warm sky
normal cave
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