#Pokemon
normal cave
snow oasis
and Goodra is more of a defensive mon anyways
normal cave
Yeah I never use hydreigon
snow oasis
This is like 60% of the Unova dex tbh
obsidian juniper
But it is very cool
snow oasis
Although tbf that’s most pseudos
normal cave
This is like 60% of the Unova dex tbh
looks at Mienshao
Spending all of my X/Y runs with an unevolved mienfoo all game is... not fun
obsidian juniper
Dragonite and garchomp line are obtainable relatively early, right?
normal cave
obsidian juniper
Thsts true, but i always overleveled as a kid
sharp kernel
obsidian juniper
I still have a hard time connection the english names with the pokemon
normal cave
It's a... 1/1000 chance, I think
snow oasis
Garchomp can actually be used before the E4 in DPP tbf
since it evolves at 48 instead of 50+ like the others
sharp kernel
I will make the executive decision of making my final mon arboliva
snow oasis
Metagross is another one that evolves before 50 but Beldum is locked behind postgame anyways
obsidian juniper
We coulda fit abomasnow in somewhere there, right?
sand forge
Dragonite & Garchomp belong to a memorable champion
normal cave
There is a 1% chance for a bagon to summon a salamence, and a 1% chance to find a bagon in the first place
outer eagle
well tbf
normal cave
Garchomp...
outer eagle
at least with SOS battles as long as you get a Bagon
you can just stall until you get the Salamence
obsidian juniper
Dragonite & Garchomp belong to a memorable champion
Dragonite is only memorable because he got three of them things
sand forge
Unova's Champion uses Druddigon ffs
outer eagle
Dragonite is memorable because he is Barnie 
snow oasis
I feel like Goodra shoulda been Diantha’s ace instead of Gardevoir
outer eagle
do you not have like...Adrenaline Orb or something?
normal cave
I use them
snow oasis
I get that it’s a mega but the champion should’ve used a native mon
normal cave
But they stop summoning and die after like 2/3 summons
obsidian juniper
I get that it’s a mega but the champion should’ve used a native mon
True!
outer eagle
and btw different mons have differenct chances to summon something
outer eagle
there are many times where i have to wait until like turn 10 for a mon to cry for help
snow oasis
Leon should’ve used 6 Charizards
sand forge
Metagross is also a very memorable pseudo
normal cave
Leon should have used 6 charizards while super mega stealth rock is up
snow oasis
Metagross is one of the only 2 non-Dragon pseudos, and it was also the ace of a memorable Champion
outer eagle
Any pseudo that is used by a champion is immediately memorable
in Hydreigon's case it's Ghetsis
snow oasis
Any pseudo that is used by a champion is immediately memorable
Diantha’s Goodra
normal cave
What pseudo was gen 7?
outer eagle
fair point
sharp kernel
snow oasis
Kommo-o
obsidian juniper
Leon shouldve used one normal charizard, one mega y, one mega x, one gigantimax , one charmander and one charmeleon
normal cave
The scale thing
sharp kernel
let's see how this goes
snow oasis
nickname the Hydreigon something starting with A
outer eagle
Diantha is such a forgettable champion that even her pseudo is forgettable
normal cave
Name it AAAAAAA
snow oasis
Amposter 
sand forge
Also Tyranitar is essentially a dragon pseudo
normal cave
Goodra is memorable to me because it is fucking adorable
snow oasis
people call Diantha or Alder the worst or most forgettable champions but it’s gotta be ||Wallace||
outer eagle
honestly monotype just inherently makes everything forgettable
snow oasis
Is it not Blue?
outer eagle
nah it's Tracer
normal cave
people call Diantha or Alder the worst or most forgettable champions but it’s go...
||tfw need to beat the water gym leader again and travel to meteor falls just to fight the champion||
outer eagle
whoever that is
snow oasis
nah it's Tracer
cheers luv
sand forge
people call Diantha or Alder the worst or most forgettable champions but it’s go...
I will say though, going from ||Emerald to Sapphire having Wallace achieve Champion was hype as fuck||
snow oasis
honestly it should’ve been someone else with Wall- in their name
outer eagle
Steven was just 1000x more hype and mysterious than Wallace
And because of that Wallace feels dim in comparison
snow oasis
Wally going from sickly shrinking violet to champion of Hoenn would’ve been badass
also he would’ve had a balanced team as opposed to another round of Waters after already beating Archie and Juan
obsidian juniper
Tbf, rival to champion might feel a bit overplayed
snow oasis
Wally wasn’t your rival at the beginning of the game tho tbf
outer eagle
it only got repeated once in SM tbh
like, aside from Blue, which rival b4 gen 7 became champion?
snow oasis
It would be an interesting dichotomy with Brendan/May losing their faith in their battling skills as Wally gains his own
normal cave
Wally getting smacked down and vanishing at the entrance to victory road was just... cruel
snow oasis
He’s at the end of VR in RS/ORAS at least
outer eagle
tbf he does move to the end of Victory Road if you rematch him
sand forge
A team rocket -style entity takes over the Pokémon championship & fills the league with weak yes men
normal cave
A team rocket -style entity takes over the Pokémon championship & fills the leag...
Gen 5
outer eagle
like that matters, the E4 barely ever do anything
sand forge
Nah because then you restore it to its former glory
outer eagle
why would they need to insert yes men when the actual E4 never does anything
normal cave
The E4 do one thing
snow oasis
Lorelei does stuff in the postgame im stuff
normal cave
Give bopping music
obsidian juniper
I swear i remember some of the elite 4 doing something in some of the games
outer eagle
true that
sand forge
Team Aqua has defeated Team Magma through the power of political scheming
outer eagle
gen 5 E4's theme still hype asf
obsidian juniper
Like the "fire" one in platinum
outer eagle
after she controlled her powers she just never does anything again 
which i guess fits her thematically
snow oasis
she just like me fr
sharp kernel
first game as "YGO's best VGC team" - https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2023series1-1764674590
snow oasis
Dugtrio rolls “Worst Earthquake ever”
Asked to leave VGC
outer eagle
i can't believe that up until gen 6 Dugtrio only had 80 base ATK
sand forge
Where's Ampharos
normal cave
You need to pick 4/6 mons
mighty storm
poor regigigas in PLA, couldnt even escape it's own ability
obsidian juniper
kind vortex
a wolfe glick special
sand forge
A real shame, given Regigigas possesses the coolest cry in the anime
Like, to think otherwise is folly
latent sleet
my favorite lobster
warm sky
obsidian juniper
warm sky
pokémon nicknames that go hard
obsidian juniper
Need my pokemon to be named like cianxia attaks frfr
Chat, im thinking of boxing my litleo cause shes not really doing anything, what should i replace her with? (Leaning towards golett cause im at the fighting gym rn)
obsidian juniper
Chat, im thinking of boxing my litleo cause shes not really doing anything, what...
Did i not post tve image? Lol
obsidian juniper
what is the joke
its in the tweet
second picture
sleek sky
ah
mobile hiding image two
mighty storm
question, what percentage boost is tera electric regileki with transitor?
sharp kernel
wdym
sharp kernel
you get the same number no matter how you slice it. you're hitting as if you've had 225 spA neutrally (pre magnet calc)
add 20% to that and you're hitting as if you had 270 spA
snow oasis
270 spA, can’t damage a naruto bug
sharp kernel
either pokemon calc is glitching
or this is actually a shit build
yeah something is wrong with the calcs
snow oasis
or this is actually a shit build
Is the Toxapex Lv100?
Cause it specified a Lv50 Eleki
clever saddle
Can multiple Pokémon get the “reliable partner” mark? I thought it was only for the first Pokémon to reach max friendship
lucid moth
why would anyone tera electric regieleki
when tera ice is there and actually kinda broken on it
warm sky
I still have no idea what team to build so I've just been doing randbats
too smol brain to get good team
normal cave
Netdecking is your friend
Learn the format, learn why the team is built the way it is, and THEN start building teams
Start with someone else's team
warm sky
there aren't many sample teams yet
mighty storm
why this team
golden lance
Someone likes gen 4
mighty storm
but the snorlax and not a luxray even?
golden lance
Hgss are gen 4 games
mighty storm
and
golden lance
And?
mighty storm
doesnt explain the snorlax
lucid moth
p sure lax is more popular than luxray
normal cave
Staraptor my beloved
golden lance
There's only so many mons you can fit in a 6 mon team
sharp kernel
Staraptor, the worst bird ever
golden lance
I wonder how many people first realized how good intimidate was via staraptor
normal cave
Staraptor, the worst bird ever
golden lance
Staraptor, the worst bird ever
Pretty impressive, honestly
It takes effort being on this level of wrong
normal cave
Just bait
sharp kernel
It’s the worst bird. Lmk what niche staraptor has in 2023 compared to other birds
lucid moth
intimidate + solid bst
golden lance
^
lucid moth
staraptor is 1 of the best uu mons atm
warm sky
it's finally not stuck in BL lmao
lucid moth
I still have no idea what team to build so I've just been doing randbats <:cheem...
i have a fair bit of ou teams and cores if u wanna see
golden lance
it's finally not stuck in BL lmao
It only took the most undisguised wave of powercreep ever, but we got there
normal cave
Raptor+featherdance+roost on my mono normal team was just so fun
Still hit stupid strong with 0 investment brave bird
And it actually walled shit
warm sky
i have a fair bit of ou teams and cores if u wanna see
sure.
normal cave
Misty's teams are good
harsh path
i have a fair bit of ou teams and cores if u wanna see
Could I get in on this as well, please? Any weather especially would be great but beggars can’t be choosers
normal cave
She gave me a full wezl team last gen
lucid moth
Could I get in on this as well, please? Any weather especially would be great bu...
rain is back to being broken but sun is still good
normal cave
And it worked p nice
lucid moth
snow and sand are mid rn
normal cave
Specs typhlosion sweeping nerds was funny
harsh path
Rain was ironically what I was used to playing back when I last seriously played OU
Gen 7
Peeko Rain Goat 100 years
normal cave
lucid moth
She gave me a full wezl team last gen
full wezls got a huge boost this gen
bleak pine
normal cave
Yeah, the legendary
normal cave
Actual wezl legendary
golden lance
Ngl, i wonder what's theoretically the best gen for rain in a vaccum
bleak pine
Most certainly Black/White
golden lance
Gen 5 is good sure but it doesn't have the broken water mons
bleak pine
Yeah, but unless the rain is interrupted, it'll keep going
sand forge
The worst bird is probably Toucannon
harsh path
I just remember Gen 5 as the weather wars gen
bleak pine
Honestly worst bird is Pidgeot
harsh path
Also the peak of Fighting Types
normal cave
Mega pidge good
bleak pine
You can tell cause it was chosen to get a Mega Evolution
normal cave
No guard hurricane is fun
golden lance
You can tell cause it was chosen to get a Mega Evolution
Noctowl needed one too tbh
bleak pine
Best Bird honestly isn't Staraptor, but in my opinion, it's just Corviknight
sand forge
Pidgeot has aesthetic
bleak pine
And likely also objectively, but one step at a time here
Yeah Pidgeot just looks simple and I can agree with that
normal cave
P sure corvi performs better than raptor
sand forge
Actually, Fearow is the worst bird
harsh path
Fearow just seems super boring
bleak pine
Just, not exactly a very flattering bird of prey compared to others
I also just wish they'd stop turning our birbs into raptors once they fully evolve
harsh path
Fave Gen 1 birb is for me Dodrio
bleak pine
Give us birds that eat their seeds and nuts instead of snatching up small animals instead
bleak pine
I love Doduo just cause of how dumb it is
harsh path
And they’re angy because the third head is irritating
lucid moth
sorry gotta do these from scratch
cus im on my phone rn
sun is a bit tougher to nail down
bleak pine
For a bird with three heads, they surprisingly get along with each other
lucid moth
cus its extremely customizable but that is the sun core rn
golden lance
<@131023596607897600> <@358144650994778115> heres a base rain and sun core
Why hat btw?
lucid moth
hatt + tusk are goated partners
lucid moth
you can tailor either to take care of a different problem
av spdef tusk is a real set
harsh path
Ah yeah Sun works with a bunch of the past Paradoxes, doesn’t it
lucid moth
full offensive tusk
lucid moth
Ah yeah Sun works with a bunch of the past Paradoxes, doesn’t it
yes
usual sun partners would be roaring moon
chi-yu loves the sun as well
last sun mon can be another proto or your choice of pivot or sun sweeper
golden lance
Ngl i wonder how good a rain + elec terrain hybrid would be once we get koko back
lucid moth
rain is even more customizable rn
as the only 2 core rain mons u need are pelipper and floatzel
floatzel is unfortunately predictable with the set but u can get spicy with the tera type on it
u can run scizor, kilowattrel, roaring moon, pult, pex, amoongus, breloom
bleak pine
lucid moth
tusk
bleak pine
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
lucid moth
chien-pao
harsh path
Poor Ho-Oh needs some throat lollies
snow oasis
lucid moth
@harsh path @warm sky these 2 defense cores are very very strong
last move on ting is up to u. can be stealth rocks or ruination
tusks is again very customizable
pex can go full defense or coverage move or baneful bunker
snow oasis
isn’t knock pretty much mandatory on any tusk set
warm sky
I mean ig sun would be fun
I used sun a lot in gen 6
the real question for me is tho
what fucking tusk set
lucid moth
isn’t knock pretty much mandatory on any tusk set
yesnt
lucid moth
what fucking tusk set
for sun i like full offense
252 atk 252 speed 4 spdef jolly
eq, knock, spinner, rapid spin
snow oasis
protosynthesis go brrr
harsh path
Might go Sun, give me more opportunity to try newer stuff considering Protosynthesis
lucid moth
psyshock, nuzzle, calm mind, coverage tera blast or dazzling gleam
hatt goes the opposite of what tusk goes
you can also do
sand forge
Actually Pidove might be the worst bird
lucid moth
252 176 def and the rest in spdef
sand forge
Pidove is ok, but Unfezant is bleh
lucid moth
and calm mind spam for a slow bulk sweeper
harsh path
Also could try Chi-Yu before it probably gets banned
lucid moth
with draining kiss
warm sky
CB on tusk?
harsh path
“More like Magic Bounce on these roccs” -Hatterene
Then once Chi-Yu goes I can give Scovillian a go
sand forge
ugly ass Pokemon
lucid moth
mfer gets fat as fuck in the spdef department
lucid moth
it is
warm sky
the fattest fire moves
warm sky
timid or modest with scarf?\
warm sky
makes sense
okay guess I got 2 more slots
roaring moon is probably another one to run?
harsh path
More Protosynth friends!
warm sky
and then lemme think what goes on the 6th slot
warm sky
I was just gonna keep it simple with a CB set + crunch/eq/ironhead/uturn
but yeah, now I just need to think of a sixth mon
lucid moth
cinderace is nice
meowscarada too
scovillain
is an option
sandy shocks
scream tail
the issue with sun rn is that torkoal kinda sucks
it cant do all it ever wants to do
like it can lead and rocks
or lead and yawn
but without reliable recovery and an exploitable base type it gets worn down quick
the rest of your sun team should be keeping that in mind and looking to kill them asap
with tusk and hatt being there to hold the line if things are dicey
warm sky
what does scream tail do?
because I've only ever seen it un randbats where it's a screens setter
lucid moth
can do screens if u want
but generally
wish passing
and it gets encore and status
lucid moth
up to you
it gets flash cannon
there u go
ur team doesnt care much about spikes or hazards outside of torkoal
hatt and tusk hold off hazards on ur field
harsh path
Man the Paradox mons all look so sick
past and future
Looking at when the Moon is Roaring
warm sky
https://pokepast.es/6be3e54cf262be83 ig imma try this team
lucid moth
i would do a more spdef focused hatterene here
just cus u are running an offensive tusk
tera... normal hatt maybe?
idk its a tough tera call
u probs muscle past chi-yu with moon and a rapid spin boosted tusk
warm sky
how much spdef then?
obsidian juniper
corrina fight
spend 3 turns iron defensing with my eviolite golette
her pokemon does not have a move to hit me
shadow punch into hyper potion twice
machoke used leer twice and then died
hawlucha uses hone claws 3 times while i kill it
easiest gym of my life
😎
golden lance
Man
Pretty funny how in her first battle, her 2 lucarios (aka her whole team) have metal sound but no special moves
warm sky
mfw my opp sends in pult to draco meteor roaring moon but I predict this so terra steel to live and then crunch
obsidian juniper
found leftovers
obsidian juniper
What would be an appropriate level to evolve floette? Im assuming its after it learns moonblast, or is there another move i should wait for?
golden lance
You get dazzling gleam as a tm later anyway so it kinda doesn't matter
obsidian juniper
golden lance
Tho i guess you would lose 15 bp
golden lance
Only moves floette learns after moonblast is petal dance and solar beam
obsidian juniper
Well, i dont know when i get access to the move relearner
golden lance
Well, i dont know when i get access to the move relearner
You can see it in the map, no?
vagrant steppe
golden lance
He/him to all of them except the mons obviously feminine designs
It as a pronoun doesn't exist in portuguese so we just it he as the default one
sharp kernel
Ash’s Pikachu has always been a she in my book
vagrant steppe
It's canonically male tho
snow oasis
Gardevoir, Lopunny, Tsareena, Hatterene (he/him)
harsh path
Any dog Pokemon (he/him/good boy!)
pseudo goblet
young magnet
placid junco
Excellent
placid junco
pseudo goblet
pseudo goblet
https://twitter.com/akirararagi/status/1611310044850835459?s=20&t=3ZaaYJFeoYtjT0...
The Hammer army
vocal torrent
Hammy
bleak pine
https://twitter.com/akirararagi/status/1611310044850835459?s=20&t=3ZaaYJFeoYtjT0...
Monster Hunter
obsidian juniper
ok, ive run out of funny nicknames, anyone here wanna be an inkay?
twin shard
Inky, blinky, and stinky
vagrant steppe
ʎɐʞuI
obsidian juniper
no wait i found a name
crimson moat
So council has spoken and it is gonna be 3 quick bans tomorrow
One of which is almost guaranteed to be Chi Yu
crimson moat
That... sounds about right yeah
Those wouldn't surprise me
Some people are memeing that Espartha might be on the list lol
crimson moat
The saving grace for Shed Tail is that Orthworm exists
Cyclizar has a full package deal that Shed Tail profits off
Orthworm is currently UU
That slow of speed on Orthworm makes it much harder to profit off Shed Tail
"But what if Orthworm tries to fill the void Cyclizar leaves?"
I don't think it will
sharp kernel
Orthworm is a very solid Pokémon. Will be interesting if he fits cyclizar’s role in singles. In doubles orthworm is leagues better than cyclizar atm
mighty storm
ok, ive run out of funny nicknames, anyone here wanna be an inkay?
Gim Mic
warm sky
One of which is almost guaranteed to be Chi Yu
guess I'm making a new team, because without chi yu I'm fucked.
maiden flax
"But what if Orthworm tries to fill the void Cyclizar leaves?"
I don't think it ...
Yeah there is absolutely no way lol
Cyclizar on its own is already a really good utility mon
And part of why shed tail is so good with it is due to regenerator meaning you can get a sub out like 5 times a game
Orthworm would be lucky to get it out more than once
warm sky
I'm so bad at this game so sometimes I just need
chi yu
also man, this sun team just
doesn't click for me
and if I would keep any mon from it, it's probably roaring moon
the rest doesn't feel good enough ig
plus torkoal is so mid
so it feels like dead weight
that only exists to boost the power of my actually good mons
maiden flax
and thus the nature of weather teams
warm sky
idk rain has pelliper
which is good
and sand has ttar
which is good
tbh though yeah, idk I like the mons sometimes
but again except roaring moon none I really love
normal cave
Ttar is 
warm sky
my current set for tusk just feels like
it either doesn't do enough damage
or isn't bulky enough
warm sky
yeah I think I wanna do a different team
but then I need to find a new core or strategy ig
I think I want something less unga bunga
and with a bit more
longevity
while keeping moon as this cleanup sweeper / wallbreaker
normal cave
There is always the tried and tested solution of asking Misty
Isn't Renren also really good?
warm sky
I mean I already did, but idk if I wanna keep asking everyone here
the team has more wins than losses
normal cave
I remember him getting, uh, top 50 singles?
maiden flax
Im also here
warm sky
but it's just idk, nothing fully clicks
maiden flax
D:
warm sky
https://pokepast.es/e580cf5ba89f6e86 here's what I'm currently running, made only one small tweak
normal cave
I mostly stay away from this channel tbf
warm sky
that is going terra ice + terrablast on sandy shocks
also fwiw you'd love current rain teams foolish
because floatzel is good now
normal cave
So I don't interact with regulars here
Floatzel my beloved
Good ol shoot water gun out of ass wezl
Why did they have to make it do that
maiden flax
I got like top 100 very early in sv meta
Havent been climbing lately so im only in top 500 as of currently
warm sky
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9randombattle-1765819353 why did they let me do this
obsidian juniper
Ive noticed that my "i think its cool" style of teambuilding might be suboptimal after my entire team almost crumbled to a golbat with acrobatics, any reccomendations beyond "put one of the mons in your team that resists flying instead of one of the ones that is weak to it"
golden lance
they can't spam acrobatics if reuniclus one shots it first
random stream
Your krook is intim right
Bulky reuni should pull through in most of the tough fights
random stream
👁️
kind vortex
👁️
game is pokemon crown, looks like a medieval setting with a real time battle system
vagrant steppe
Oh is it out?
random stream
Neat
kind vortex
Oh is it out?
it's downloadable in the game's discord server
vagrant steppe
Yo I wanted to check that out but I didn't see it having an install
Smh I was trying to play it on my phone. Guess I'll have to check it
kind vortex
can't link it here but it's not hard to find
mighty storm
Vish
placid junco
I mean that makes sense yeah
mighty storm
Vish for DLC plz
placid junco
Mr Vish will save rain
bleak pine
I feel so conflicted on content leaks for these games
On one hand I just feel pretty off knowing how persistent many others are in probing around for any breaks in security just to know if a game has a Smeargle or now
On the other hand… said games are usually very easy to figure things out from, so it stands to reason there will be these kinds of stuff
Also Volbeat hype
Admittedly I find it incredibly unlikely that such a preview would show 6 mons not yet introduced
You’d think there would be a few that are already in the game
golden lance
Admittedly I find it incredibly unlikely that such a preview would show 6 mons n...
Probably not what happened, but if all six of the team mon images were to be selected randomly, the chance of all of them being mons not currently in SV is of roughly 0,48%
random stream
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9ou-1766155318-pfhqq92pi6cuhwnpdkvst3sx7prwdoapw agent azumarill strikes again
whoops wrong ping sorry
@snow oasis
dire ravine
random stream
snow oasis
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9ou-1766155318-pfhqq92pi6cuhwnpdkvst3sx7pr...
ur opp didn’t seem very good
lotta decision making
snow oasis
Rapid Spin instead of EQ/Rush on the Tusk at the end when nothing else was coming in on the sneaky stones really cemented
random stream
He was trying to outspeed scarf dengo
bc make it rain kills him so it was a last ditch effort praying for play rough miss
snow oasis
Inside of you there are two kangaroos
One of them is a physical attacker as strong as garchomp (base 130) with technician bullet seed and mach punch
The other is a poison heal utility mon with access to spore, leech seed, substitute, drain punch, and toxic
You are breloom
lucid moth
lotta <:WaitWhat:645058989490569229> decision making
it seems the opp vs ren here was handed a team of killers and was told "you cant lose with this team" and they took it as a challenge
maiden flax
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9ou-1764612471-vcisocbwxgplkuveoppzk499ted...
i love the defensive ape
pseudo goblet
Guess I was smart not going to the lighthouse yet, I also saw Wattrel, which I want
The mon i caught so far
pseudo goblet
Finally, a wattrel flew down enough, immediately fainted Veggie tho, also Lv 14 
This thing is gonna kill my whole team 
Orange and Fletchling are my best chance to catch this thing
I got destroyed
pseudo goblet
I am not going to the lighthouse until I got my little bird 
Finally got my second try, lv 14 again
Should be good enough, time to hope it stays
YES!!
Hello Lemon 
random stream
I like the thicc piggy on the pool floatie
pseudo goblet
Poor Koraidon 
normal cave
Zappy bird
harsh path
Ah he’s a smol little lightning birb
normal cave
Volt absorb on a flying type
pseudo goblet
The first Wattrel I tried to catch didn’t catch Pawmi’s move
Wind power 
Looks good if got Tailwind
Lemon got Quiet nature, up sp atk
pseudo goblet
Yeesh, guess I overleveled, Arven lv 5 skwovet vs my team, not ideal for him
He managed to survive leafage and ‘bite’ back tho
normal cave
pseudo goblet
Omg they brought back the ‘do not use bike here’ thing 😂
Found a Ralts, this one is gonna be a gallate tho
harsh path
Had a look
Wattrel has That Wind Power thing that I have no idea of
and Competitive
normal cave
Found a Ralts, this one is gonna be a gallate tho
I mean, Gardevoir's japanese name is Sirknight
You could defs make it a garde if you want
normal cave
Are we clodsire gamers?
harsh path
Can’t wait to see what’s getting QB’d
normal cave
Fish
pseudo goblet
I SAW WOOPER!!!!
AFTER MONTHS OF WAITING 
harsh path
Oh I mean Chi-Yu is absolutely the safest bet for it given discussion during the Tera Suspect Test
pseudo goblet
Shoot, 2 ball left
harsh path
But there’s plenty of possible names
pseudo goblet
We finally met, hello Eclair
normal cave
Sire acquired
harsh path
Annhilape is such a cool addition to the Primeape lore
Given that Primeape entry of Primeapes getting so angry that it kills them
pseudo goblet
I’m trying to use most of the new gen mon I got
I did have to replace Lechonk for Wooper tho
pseudo goblet
Also naming them with cakes lol
normal cave
veggie
normal cave
What the fuck is a veggie cake
pseudo goblet
Better than what I originally had for Sprigatito ‘Aroma’
Wtf is a Aroma cake 😂
Oh right I still need Nacli and Nymble
normal cave
Matcha cake?
Matcha cake is a thing
Pistachio also works
Because pistachio cakes are hella green
harsh path
Gonna have to wait ig if you don’t wanna acquire another one
Quest for the Name Rater
pseudo goblet
That’s it for now, gramps turn on the tv
harsh path
Gotta respect Meowscarada’s design
as much as it is yet another furry
In my defence I’d be much less annoyed if we didn’t just have several furry-bait starter mons for several generations now
obsidian juniper
Bulky reuni should pull through in most of the tough fights
I assume i just invedt full evs in def and hp and put calm mind on it then?
random stream
Yeah that works
obsidian juniper
silver vigil
pseudo goblet
And here we see two majestic avian competing on who is more beautiful, the winner prize will be a brand Nintendo Switch, and the loser will pay a visit to a local KFC kitchen
silver vigil
normal cave
crimson moat
7 votes needed for ban, ordered by number of votes:
Chi Yu: 9 (Unanimous)
Monke: 8
Cyclizar: 7
Espartha: 4
Garganacl: 2
Chien Pao, Dragonite, Gholdengo: 0
What's funny is that the people who wanted to keep Annihilape and Cyclizar around both wanted Espartha banned
latent sleet
shed tail
obsidian juniper
when the ape is annihilated!
obsidian juniper
more like
chi yu in court
crimson moat
Shed Tail let him avoid taxes
So yeah if anything happens next, probably an espartha suspect
Cyclizar leaving makes it less polarizing, but the same issues people had before, they will have after these quick bans
lusty tiger
Espathra feels to me like any other set-up abuser
The bigger issue now was tera and Cyclizar
plus its own substitute
crimson moat
The main issue people have with Espartha is that it is a setup abuser with Speed Boost, although I agree it is much more managable without Cyclizar
crimson moat
It's also why I was laughing so much over some of the forumers legit believing that Espartha would get quick banned
I do honestly think there will be enough flack from people that the mods will put up Espartha for suspect
lusty tiger
Yeah getting it in with a free sub and then getting to turn into a Fairy or Fight and dodge SP seems the bigger issue but now without Cyclizar we will see
crimson moat
Yeah that one is weird
purifying salt probably nullified the votes, pokemon company forgot to list that as part of the stuff it blocks as well
golden lance
Hmm
crimson moat
But it still can't block curse
lusty tiger
Gholdengo's speed tier is a point against it being too good
golden lance
Ngl i wonder how gholdengo would do in ss ou, aka the format where the 3 best unaware users ever made don't exist
crimson moat
Purifying Salt
blocks ever status under the sun except the one you would expect it to thematically block
lusty tiger
Also while it spin blocks well, it is checked decently by Great Tusk and Cinderace
Similarly, Garganacl is good no doubt. But it exploitable with it being kind of forced into a specific move set to be super effective
crimson moat
Gholdengo I agree shouldn't have made quickban tier, but I am amazed it got less votes than Gargan
lusty tiger
Well to be fair
Garganacl invokes more salt
no pun intended
Due to being a fat mon
crimson moat
Gargan getting votes was weird
lusty tiger
Think about Toxapex
crimson moat
String Cheese man
bleak pine
I thought he looked like...
That Rasta Cinnamon fella from those Apple Jacks commercials
normal cave
Mascot-looking ass
warm sky
well, time for a new team ig lmao
sand forge
when are they going to let us join Team Rocket
warm sky
How unhinged was the team rocket romhack story wise, again?
very, in a fanfic way
(derogatory)
golden lance
Care to elaborate?
obsidian juniper
I think that speaks for itself, honestly
golden lance
Can't find the details anywhere online, and those that do elaborate call it a masterpiece
So 
snow oasis
snow oasis
Can't find the details anywhere online, and those that do elaborate call it a ma...
I think this sums it up accurately
jagged linden
I kinda wanna get into comp pokemon cause of bf, is there like a beginners guide or anything like that?
snow oasis
What type of comp, first off?
jagged linden
Garganacl invokes more salt
Garganacl is literally the mvp of my single player team
throw him in, setup Salt Cure/Spikes, and then just sit there and spam random moves until either Salt Cure kills or I have to switch out
been stuck at the Fighting Type Team Star Base though because despite being a bulky defense wall its still not enough 
jagged linden
What type of comp, first off?
what is the most popular
snow oasis
Are you trying to play online or on cartridge?
placid junco
Eri is a brutal fight
Like as much as people say Pokémon is too easy
A lot of SV is actually not that easy
golden lance
Vgc is the best (read as only) format in game, while 6v6 singles is more popular on showdown
snow oasis
OU is the most popular of those Showdown formats, probably followed by Ubers
golden lance
Btw, does anyone have any romhack recommendations?
outer eagle
For someone starting with competitive Pokemon, 6v6 singles is probably more familiar and easier to fit in
normal cave
Btw, does anyone have any romhack recommendations?
Radical Red
normal cave
Punishingly hard, to the point where it stops being a normal pokemon game and it feels like a puzzle game
Oh
BlazeBlack2/VoltWhite2 Redux
golden lance
Already played that as well
normal cave
Well, you have good taste at least
golden lance
snow oasis
Btw, does anyone have any romhack recommendations?
you done any of the Kaizos yet?
golden lance
Emerald
sand forge
how does a pokemon kaizo work
snow oasis
RenPlat?
snow oasis
Dunno, I'm just listing ones I've heard positive recs for
I've never played a romhack
golden lance
Fair
placid junco
I remember trying glazed way back in the day
obsidian juniper
I remember trying glazed way back in the day
Me recalling my past donut experiences
placid junco
Pokémon glazed thst is
normal cave
I saw the crown trailer
It does no justice at all to its battle system
It looked horrendous
Didn't try it, but damn did the trailer make it look awful
mighty storm
leaked moves
by the VGC team builder
you can probably guess which one belongs to which
normal cave
Hydro steam belongs to the motorbike one, and psyblade belongs to the diamond head
mighty storm
Hydro steam belongs to the motorbike one, and psyblade belongs to the diamond he...
What, it's obviously the other way around
normal cave
Wtf no
One is a motorbike
Those shits heat up and spew hot gas
The other one looks all psychic and mysterious
mighty storm
Foolish, you are saying the paradox mon made of 3 SWORD USERS is not using the blade move?!
normal cave
Also, look at its fangs
It actually has swords
Meanwhile the motorbike one has no sharp edges except for the handlebars or whatever they are called
mighty storm
do these look like blade wielders to you?
mighty storm
Ok that is a good point, but note the typing of the other 2
water and fire, what is steam?
normal cave
The thingy that machines spew
So the motorbike uses steam
Motorgoat
Love that design
normal cave
Really cool future paradox idea, to turn a goat into a machine
Yeah, those are the goats
But they are in the future now
mighty storm
foolish say what their quartet is called
mighty storm
they are the swords of justice
mighty storm
Im not disputing they are a motorcycle, but swords of justice would use a sword right?
normal cave
Not if they are in the future
mighty storm
also leaks say the roaring beast (temp name) is water type
mighty storm
well water/??? we dont know the second part
mighty storm
that isnt Japanese foolish, its Gibberish.
mighty storm
Foolish you are capping right?
mighty storm
😮💨 good, you had me worried
normal cave
Interesting they fused the trios
mighty storm
but yeah Roaring Beast and Iron Swords moves got leaked by VGC, ironic cuz the in game data was scrubbed out
warm sky
so probably water/fire and psychic/fighting then
mighty storm
with placeholder pikachus where they would show up
normal cave
Probably
mighty storm
big floofy tiger > Motorbike sword
normal cave
I love the fierce face on the past mon
Looks like the kind of thing that kept people back then awake at night
DLC?
normal cave
Oh damn over 1k pokemon
mighty storm
ya know who is mon 999?
normal cave
No
mighty storm
jagged linden
ferret
normal cave
Nodl
jagged linden
so, what's everyone's thoughts on Scarlet/Violet overall?
(I've almost finished the game but I'm not quite there yet, still have the Elite 4, Arven final fight, and the last Team Star Base to tackle)
snow oasis
is p good
golden lance
Probably the best mainline game we had since bw2
sharp kernel
For someone starting with competitive Pokemon, 6v6 singles is probably more fami...
The issue people will run into is while 6v6 is more familiar, the game is infinitely more balanced for doubles (especially the last 2 gens)
golden lance
Playing 6v6 singles is like common charity
It's clearly an afterthought of the balancing team but it still manages
sharp kernel
It’s kinda cool to play both formats and see the differences
Like orthworm vs cyclizar priority, baxcalibur and hydreigon in doubles vs singles, snow being really good in doubles and mid in singles
It’s funny because in terms of weather, rain and sun are prob the most mid rn pre paradox pokemon
Only time I’ve ever see sun in the ladder is for torkoal instruct shenanigans
vagrant steppe
None, they're all banned
sharp kernel
With open team sheets? Uh
vagrant steppe
Probably roaring Moon tho from what I've heard
sharp kernel
That’s hard. A lot of people would have said iron valiant pre open team sheets
golden lance
None, they're all banned
I mean, they'll eventually be released
vagrant steppe
Iron Bundle
golden lance
Didn't you kept arguing that mane was mid in doubles before the game came out?
sharp kernel
I was wrong then, but I do think it’s worse now as opposed to what I would have been if it was legal in series 1
Iron hands kinda sticks out for its offensive typing tbh, as does great tusk
AV Iron hands with fake out, wild charge, drain punch and either iron head/fire punch/ice punch makes it impossible to switch into
Something like this
snow oasis
Holy shit I didn’t realize it had 154/108/68 defensive stats
This thing was MADE for AV
sharp kernel
Yeah it’s a big boy
snow oasis
Does it need Tailwind support?
maiden flax
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9monotype-1766573681-wrosf6zy1dumq8j4uxqo2gf3btcrn6gpw top 100 in monotype using exclusively mono rock achieved
sharp kernel
Idts. You’re running it prob in either a hyper offense lead. You could run it alongside a tailwind setter to guarantee them a 2nd turn, but the main tailwind setter I’m thinking would benefit the most from having iron hands by its side isn’t really ideal
Oh amoongus + iron hands sounds kinda sick too
warm sky
okay I am on a losing streak in randbats because of 2 fucking mons
Espathra and Tropius
Like if you don't have something that immediately deleted either of them in random battles
you just get subbed
warm sky
Oh Eleki rarely bothers me lmao
golden lance
What does tropius do?
maiden flax
tropius is harvest spam
warm sky
What does tropius do?
because tropius can harvest + sitrus berry on leech seed sub stall
maiden flax
with protect sub
golden lance
Ah
warm sky
basically you get stalled to death
maiden flax
moody scovillain is currently considered the best pokemon in randbats
warm sky
because harvest somehow always triggers for my opponent
and the one time I had tropius myself
IT WAS A DIFFERENT SET
THAT WAS ASS
I'm stuck in the 1300's in randbats because yeah, random mons is a mess
but it beats being unable to teambuild ig
sharp kernel
I’m surprised tropius is the harvest user of choice, considering arboliva exists. But ig adding the fighting weakness isn’t great
maiden flax
I’m surprised tropius is the harvest user of choice, considering arboliva exists...
this is randbats
maiden flax
moody scovillain is considered like an auto-win pokemon in randbats right now cause there's very little that can stop leech seed, protect and sub moody scovillain in rand bats
sharp kernel
Tera poison garganacl in top 8
maiden flax
garg is great
warm sky
Oh well, I'll just wait with the bans to find a new team to build ig for OU, or I try a different tier.
or VGC
maiden flax
also amazing with tera, garg has such a wide variety of teras it works with lol
warm sky
idk yet
maiden flax
join me in monotype suffering
warm sky
if I did monotype I'd only do monotype ghost
sharp kernel
Well they’re currently using it to combat the toxic spikes set on Meowscarada via teraing garganacl t1, switching it out and then switching it back in to remove the toxic spikes
maiden flax
if I did monotype I'd only do monotype ghost
good news! mono ghost is good right now
sharp kernel
Didn’t see the rest of his team, but I’m assuming he’s on dondozo Tatsugiri if removing toxic spikes is that much of a prio
warm sky
good news! mono ghost is good right now
... I'm listening
harsh path
Monotypes 👀
warm sky
I mean if sun ain't working for me in OU, I may as well try to find a tier I can enjoy lmao
harsh path
I’d love to see how funny mono-Water can be
golden lance
Well they’re currently using it to combat the toxic spikes set on Meowscarada vi...
Hazards are good in vgc now?
maiden flax
its doing so well that annihiape got banned and fluttermane is being suspected lol (doesnt help that both fighting and fairy are also good this gen)
brambleghast is weirdly good as a hazard setter for mono ghost and due to gholdengo and being all ghost they hazard stack really well
warm sky
damn ape is dead in monotype too?
maiden flax
yup
sharp kernel
Hazards are good in vgc now?
Only as a check to dondozo Tatsugiri
maiden flax
some types just straight up had little to no counterplay to ape and even those which did would still take quite a hit from it
harsh path
How’s water btw?
last musk
How’s water btw?
Wet
sharp kernel
Hot
last musk
Or not depends on your view
sharp kernel
Wtf you mean depending on your view
harsh path
Might return to Mono or even grow the brain power to try VGC
sharp kernel
“Hey what if water isn’t wet, but instead it’s us that are wet”
last musk
Some people don't think water is wet and it's only the application of water to another thing that makes something wet
maiden flax
water pretty good, they have some nice variety
quaquaval is like real good for mono water
golden lance
So from what i got from this discussion
sharp kernel
Do you have to tera into your mono type for this?
golden lance
Is that i should cover myself in oil
sharp kernel
Somebody might catch you if you do that Choccy, because then you’d be a shiny
last musk
Is that i should cover myself in oil
If you want to fly sure
maiden flax
monotype banned tera due to going against the theming of the tier (and mono stab was a bit much for it)
warm sky
monotype banned tera due to going against the theming of the tier (and mono stab...
makes sense. So, share me the resources of mono ghost and idk, imma mess with it
maiden flax
makes sense. So, share me the resources of mono ghost and idk, imma mess with it
https://pokepast.es/1bc20e151a89b7f4 sample team
https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/sv-monotype-viability-rankings.3714063/#post-9462279 viability ranking for the tier if you want to try and build one yourself
snow oasis
What are the worst types in monotype?
maiden flax
electric and rock are both in really bad positions
mono rock however is practically being carried by garg and glimm
snow oasis
what’s wrong with elec
maiden flax
ice isnt great but chien-pao helps
snow oasis
how’s grass doing
maiden flax
what’s wrong with elec
their best mon is iron hands, their fastest mon is sandy shocks
they have a lower speed tier than rock somehow
mighty storm
SV is really good
maiden flax
how’s grass doing
grass is doing fine, meowscarada helps them a lot and breloom is great, amoonguss is great too but the rest is on the okay side of things
warm sky
breloom
sand forge
Breloom my beloved
warm sky
maiden flax
oh right normal is also doing really bad
maiden flax
looking at it yeah no i think normal might be the worst
psychic aint great right now either
maiden flax
gonna bet bug
bug surprisingly well
cause volc and scizor and slither wing hits hard
harsh path
Water mono gaming
maiden flax
funny thing about mono bug though
i mentioned before rock is doing really bad but mono bug actually straight up folds to iron def garg if they arent careful since 1 iron def means mono bug cant kill them anymore unless they are for some reason running specs rabsca
sharp kernel
Wait how is Sandy shocks the fastest mono electric type when pawmot and kilowattrel exist
maiden flax
Wait how is Sandy shocks the fastest mono electric type when pawmot and kilowatt...
i forgot kilowattrel is a mon they have lol
also isnt sandy shocks faster than pawmot?
normal cave
Why is sandy shocks so fast
maiden flax
oh right they also have jolteon as speed
normal cave
Shit looks clunky as hell
sharp kernel
I kinda feel as if you don’t play Jolteon tbh
maiden flax
but that said, kilowattrel and jolteon are really bad in mono electric surprisingly
maiden flax
I kinda feel as if you don’t play Jolteon tbh
its about as strong as kilo 😄
sharp kernel
Iron Hands
Pawmot
Kilowattrel (fixes your speed issue)
Other 3 I would have to look into though
normal cave
Tfw electric is slow
sharp kernel
I’m kinda leaning towards the fact that you play elektross tbh
normal cave
maiden flax
S Rank
Iron Hands
Rotom-Wash
A Rank
Iron Thorns
Magnezone
Pawmot
Sandy Shocks
B Rank
Oricorio Pom
Pincurchin
Rotom-Heat
Rotom-Mow
Toxtricity
C Rank
Eelektross
Jolteon
Kilowattrel
Luxray
Rotom
Rotom-Frost
^ (viability ranking of electric)
sharp kernel
Oh right rotom wash you def play
maiden flax
mono flying is also lacking
sharp kernel
You could enable iron hands/Sandy shocks with pincurchin, but that kinda feels like a wasted slot half the time
maiden flax
mono rock is in such an awkward position lol
sharp kernel
I’m thinking:
Sash Kilowattrel with competitive
AV Iron hands
Heavy duty boots Pawmot with Iron fist
Life Orb Sandy Shocks
Rotom Wash with leftovers
maiden flax
I’m thinking:
Sash Kilowattrel with competitive
AV Iron hands
Heavy duty boots ...
do it, join me in top 100 with the a mono type that's doing pretty badly currently
sharp kernel
What elo is top 100 currently
maiden flax
like 1530~
sharp kernel
That’s actually not that bad
golden lance
funny thing about mono bug though
i mentioned before rock is doing really bad b...
Couldn't you tecnically use axe kick lokix?
maiden flax
Couldn't you tecnically use axe kick lokix?
youd do more damage with close combat slither wing
and youd do like... ~50% with a choice band
golden lance
I see
sharp kernel
do it, join me in top 100 with the a mono type that's doing pretty badly current...
5-0 so far, interesting thing of note, Kilowattrel air slash 1 shots iron valiant
maiden flax
(Most supereffective moves one shot iron valiant)
sharp kernel
Yeah but kilowattrel’s spa is kinda mid, so it still shocked me
Get it
Shocked me
I’m using mono electric
placid junco
wyrdeer seems kinda neat
vagrant steppe
Deserved ngl
sharp kernel
Loss my first match to freaking fairy
Didn’t think scream tail could wall me, otherwise I would have played that out differently
harsh path
Espathra got really close apparently
sharp kernel
Grand finals https://youtu.be/ghPWWr8kXzo
harsh path
Saw 4/9