deformed robotics

[strange shard]

I launched a set of robot arms for my space station and the stress of launching greatly deformed them. After closer examination, the robotics parts are not straight with their parent parts

As you can probably imagine, I didn’t create that rotation and misalignment in the VAB

Is there any way for me to fix them?

And there’s like 70 joints that need fixing, and no I’m not going to detach every single part with EVA construction.

And I already tried time warping and saving and loading, nothin works

Do I need to modify the craft in the save data or something? At this point it’s the most reasonable option I can think of

Either that or installing my first mod

[knotty juniper]

I told you earlier: install KSP community fixes

[strange shard]

You said that you weren’t sure if it would work on non-new crafts

And I’m not downloading my first mod on a whim

[knotty juniper]

Kspcf makes the game work like it’s supposed to

It works on non-new crafts; it might not work on non-new vessels

[strange shard]

Hmmmm

I’d like a demonstration

These are great claims, but they don’t exactly inspire confidence

[knotty juniper]

https://github.com/KSPModdingLibs/KSPCommunityFixes

A craft is a template of a ship to be built. A vessel is a ship in flight. If you’ve already launched the ship then KSPCF cannot help you. But if you’ve built the craft file and have not launched it yet then KSPCF will fix robotic drift issues

[strange shard]

Yeah it’s already launched

So once you hit “launch” and your money goes down to create the craft onto the launchpad, it turns from a “craft” in the VAB to a “vessel” in the game world?

[heavy kestrel]

No way to fix in flight short of rebuilding the whole thing on eva, weather by stock methods or kspcf. You can prevent it from happening during launch by either installing kspcf, or by locking all robotic parts in the vab so they are locked on launch, then unlocking them once in orbit.

[strange shard]

Ahhhhhhh I should have done that. I just added some struts

[heavy kestrel]

Any drift that is present when you lock a robotic part, save and reload, enter time warp, or switch scenes becomes permanent unless you have installed kspcf

[strange shard]

Ohhhhhh shit

Guess I’m reverting

[heavy kestrel]

So robotics will slowly but surely become mangled over time

[strange shard]

I guess that means I should also change the power loss behavior to be free floating?

Because that happened in a reverted time

It locked with drift

But I reverted that away

[knotty juniper]

Right. And obviously you can launch the same craft file multiple times to get many vessels. And each chunk of connected parts (e.g. decoupled stages) is also a vessel

[strange shard]

Well I “fixed” it and now the rocket flies for about ten seconds and then the game lags for another ten seconds and then I have 200 pieces of debris coating the KSC

[frail coral]

well at least your robotics arent warping anymore lol

sadly, with robotics, thats just the tip of the iceberg

I urge you to use them sparingly and not be surprised if they decide to screw you

even with KSP CF

[strange shard]

I have about 70 pieces all attached to each other…

[frail coral]

the devs are laughing at you thinking that robotics is stable. Search through these help threads and you will find the myraid of unplayable generic cases that cause robotics to fail spectacularly. My personal favorite is when you dock two vehicle (that are both landed) with a robotic arm and one of them either becomes a pogo stick or all the parts disconnect from each other. Or it just explodes.

I use them sparingly and even then I always have a backup plan.

eva construction can help a lot

[strange shard]

Welp

I managed to launch a mangled form of my robot into orbit

I guess I’m sticking with that

[frail coral]

whatever works

[heavy kestrel]

Just lock the joints in the vab and then unlock them once in orbit

[frail coral]

I have still had the issue despite this

no mods