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Yes, the community manifest, one moment
keep an eye on mrroflwaffles, still a chance he could hop on the arg and try
Im back online in... 20 hours. Afternoon shift keeps me from helping ;_;
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it is early early early morning in us right now
@stone coral
I am talking about the western squad we worked with all day today and all of sunday night
thx all
I have been in this discord the last 14 hours
keeping updates trackign data
even when I was at work
I swear after a whole day if Milo just gets on the arg after we all get off im gonna lose it lmfao
100 percent. No bad blood man, same w you @mystic parrot and same w you @dawn sun i didn't mean to kill our momentum, I am in agreement that tomorrow with a full squad and improved player count we can make it happen.
Take a break, soldier. We'll pick up tomorrow
all good we'll get it tomorrow
No 100% I was a bit rude to u for no reason cause people wanted to test bot kills - I agree we need more specifics on what we are testing but we did figure out a couple things
im curious if killing bots made a difference in the rising %
Its hard to tell unless we can get the same ammount of runs
Nah no worries man, I’m also sleep deprived, so I apologize for being blunt. No hard feelings, we’ll get this tomorrow
If it does I think it’s extremely hard to tell, too many variables imo. Is it during the run between terminal 1 and 2? Is it after 2? Can we disconnect after killing five? Or do we suddenly have to exfil?
Should argers make a discord to coordinate properly
we just tried that and saw no difference
I'm hoppin off. Just think how good it's gonna feel when we make it happen. GGs boys.
There is one
Redacted
Link pls
Yes but please don’t spam them
My b
It’s in the doc, not on my pc anymore so I can’t paste it here
HERES Our stats from the last 2hours of testing NOT INCUDING DECAY GL GUYS
1sT Cycle
27 Runs ON CAM 9 (AI-WEST GATE) 16% Increase from 2% CAM 9|
15 min break
2nd Cycle
30 Runs ON CAM STERAGE (COMPLEX-CANAL) Increase of 14% From 10
15 Min break
13 runs 5 Kills on uesc Min for cam9 (aI-WEST GATE) 7% Increase from 4%
Referring to classic marathon, those that want to do this have come here from there, not vise versa
Ok ill check thx
Heard, they are a peaceful tribe, away from the hustle and bustle
Very much so. Like three comments in the last four hours type vibe lol
So bot kill count went up from 141,330,169 to 141,510,260 last update. An increase in 180,091. It is almost certainly global, and likely is a safety net. I dont think kills during runs contribute to that runs progress. Im pretty sure its just a global modifier to help the event progress along faster/easier the longer the event goes on.
Genuninly think we might as well give up on this ARG for the time being because its seemingly SOOO reliant on streamers and they just don't give 2 damns about it ATM and us doing it via this discord only is leading to resets
It’s literally
“Dire marsh?”
“Yep.”
lol
we lost progress?
we haven't gained nor lost progress
Interesting, uesc kills acting as a % modifier for terminal links
Technically no but we haven’t gained any substantially
i personally feel like its for a later step
ah i think bc i changed resolution it looks less
I just did a cam9 5 kill run
no one has been running really
Yeah, it's definitely a safety net. Wasn't there something in D2 that was taking way longer than they hoped for people to figure out?
Prolly lesson learned from that.
It is almost 3am EST on a Tuesday I doubt there's many people running rn
bro wtf happened i leave for 2 hours and the progress resets
There was an issue with one of the Black Armories, but from my understanding it was bugged
3 am in america
oooo gotcha
people have lives
ah
makes sense
Still, maybe it taught them to have fallback methods of completion lol
Fortunately I just woke up so I'll make up for the difference
^
the SEA work crew is probably about to get on but it's probably not gonna help that much
it's nearly 6pm here
Hey all, which terminal pairs are for which cameras?
What happens if we just dont do the terminals 😭
slow ass UESC kills tallying
Progress decays every 15 minutes, its to make sure a group of 5 dudes dont clear the entire ARG in a single sitting. Make sure as many people are getting involved and coordinating as possible. Its just its quiet at the moment
Sadness
We definitely all agree it is global. If anything it is a fun way to visualize player count lol. Whether it actually makes things easier over time depending on kills or if it is just there to throw off people who check the api remains to be seen.
HEAT DEATH OF THE UNIVERSE
ah ok i didnt know that
map will probably unlock anyways as they want it out by Q3-4 of this month
yeah reviewers are currently waiting for cryo to drop their reviews
I just got back but these numbers are confusing at a first glance. 27 runs got 16% increase but 30 runs only got 14% increase. It seems that the number of runs isnt 1:1 to the progress made unless the starting amount matter. First run started at 2% and the second started at 10. Do we know if getting any UESC bot kills between the terminal touching adds anything?
So, real quick, do we actually know the discrepancy in stats between how many players were online during the perimeter terminal run and today?
The Europe crew will be strongest in about 11 hours or so. Around 7pm here then.
Yeah, Ive been guessing this whole this was to unlock early, and if we miss it, it just releases on a certain date.
well steam charts were def a bit lower, and there has also been no streamer helping
Someone just killed MrRoflWaffles in Marathon and I think he said “Please solve the ARG bro”
LOL
Global player count has been fairly stable. It was lower this night than previously, but not by a lot.
Also no way to account for console players
On lore ball
Yeah so looks like progress scales down the closer to 100% we are. So we need more people completing runs to get the progress bar to move the higher we get.
Streamer support is the big variable
this is true but it is a weekday so i would assume also lower
I'm trying to sleep ngl But my last thing before I mute this channel is we did not test uesc kills on our first 2 cycles we can assume it just gets harder to progress the higher the % gl other region we tried explaining but people didn't wanna co operate so I'ma jus wait for the squad I did testing with all day Monday and Sunday night
yup
even if the number of players was lower the number of people who knew of the ARG and started contributing to it might have increased
it surprised me that 65k people hopped on monday of all days
alot of people are prolly asleep rn for work too
For sure
There are also ppl running them that arent here on discord right. So how do you know its only this amount of runs. Its "registered" runs that we can controll. But not the exact amount.
Not including ps5 and xbox atleast have over 200k players in peak time online
n the game is dead apparently
for sure 💀
Honestly if someone with the viewership of Aztecross did the ARG for a couple hours, it would be done instantly
This is a rough estimate but we do play a contributing factor as well let it decay as well for 15 min after u can see the time
It's so dead that I'm in a purgatory of playing it on loop
true
D2 is dead look at that 🤣🤣🤣
🚬
Do we know what triggered the dire marsh terminals to unlock
im also playing it on a loop of DYING OVER AND OVER AGAIN
🫡 D2
24 hr peak 8k
Look at the spike then the drop we jus did it for testing it u guys wanna try 30 min 1 route and 30 min a next route while tallying runs could help
🤔 I still log on weekly
i extracted just one time tonight bro 😭
it is pretty obvious we make a difference though. every time we focus a certain run, that one goes up and the others go down
This is good
hehehe, imagine, actually extracting... 😭
WHERE DID POWER GO
I didn’t know this was the case that the other cams are going down when we focus one
im down
mhm
DM me ur results when done if possible gonna be hard to scroll up when I wake up !!
people keep talking about the fast ttk but i dump half a mag into somebody and they tank that shit like 50 cent bro
Pov me at terminals
This chat hates power (ARG channel so keep it that way)
bet everyone still playing knows each other at this point lmao
THIS WHOLE GAME IS ESSENTIALLY ME DOING THIS MEME
Wouldnt be surprised
Good night guys goodluck sorry if I was rude to any of u!
idk if im gonna be able to coordinate more than myself lmao
Ik lmaoo
Well that depends on the gun, the Overrun AR mag size is terrible lol
Her stink will infect the clean quality of our runner shells unfortunately
Good night! Well fought! 😄
I'm in
Completely fair no worries then!
Dont be, king. We're all in this together.
drops in with free kit
dies quickly
TTKISTOOFAST
The game is so good tho real talk
Is your pfp the MCR album cover btw?
YUP
Everyone I know that still plays it just used it as a hangout space like VR chat. There’s a clan I know that still does weekly raids, not even for any loot or anything, but as a social event
That dog sniffa emote
yep and the basic lmg is pretty weak damage wise
IF YOU ARENT TESTING LEVEL UP MIDA GET THAT AGILITY UP SO U CAN RUN ANOTHER DAY
Yes it is its the three cheers for sweet revenge cover
it's all guns but mostly volt guns which is crazy cause people swear they're crazy good but idk, maybe i just had a series of unfortunate fights where they were 1 shot away
That's pretty chill ngl
this might be a noob af question but what is the point of the UESC bot kill count? IS there a number we are working towards?
Man, I listened to that so much in middle school lmao
HOW MANY COMPLEX TO CANAL ROUTES DID YOU COMPLETE DO NOT ANSWER IF U DID OTHER ROUTES
12
21
1
1
Schizophrenia
love MCR
possible for sure
Yeah the Pistol is pretty whack from what Ive seen, but the SMG has DPS issues, especially if you miss and the RoF winds down a ton
Still good even after graduation 😂
genuinely might be a skill issue, we run it back tmmr 🫡
funnily enough thats how i feel about the LMG instead of volt guns (well more so the volt thrower)
Thats understandable. I was with the runners from start on marsh.
We did runs, mostly with rooks just racking numbers. Go in do bio run exit repeat. Not killing bots just amount of runs.
Alright im out. Night y'all. Keep it rook 🤌
We need double the amount of players we had running terminals for tomorrow
I feel like LMG's lack like... 5-10 more bullets, they do feel so good to fire though
throw a mag mod on and boom you have like 50 more bullets
im so used to games like val and siege where battles are much shorter and decisive so when im on BULLET NUMBER 13 and jiteroni is still standing it throws me off hard
Idk how we can pull this off but we need to spread the word more
Boom
I hit all 6 terminals in a single run, what happens next? do I just keep hitting them over and over? 😆
Oh for sure, thats what im waiting on throwing on mine when we're done with this whole arg
💣
there's no real point in doing them rn, it needs to be a mass wave of people
Yeah numbers will probably be around the same as today unless bungle changes requirements or there’s something we don’t understand
aight
Im so glad this game doesnt have val ttk, one click boom and im dead
I’m like trying to tell every squad I play w about it and also point people here tbh
Someone make a flier, and have time frames for the runs "12-3 Gate -> AI; 4-7pm Alg Pond -> Bio.. etc" post it ERRYWHERE
that's true till you come across a demon with a sniper rifle + thermal and the fight is over before it even began
We need to schedule, and distribute the plan to reddit
Durandal’s cardio program
Real shit.... ❤️
Why was there such a big spike in UESC kills at 10:31 am PST?
Not sure if streamers will get interested again cause this content isn’t interesting (running terminals over and over) not being pessimistic, but we need a fresh approach or when the EU wakes up we need a consistent push from the until when the US wakes back up
idea: should we get a skeleton crew up and running to test potential variables in increasing the values? not saying that we need more people (probably the answer were looking for) but just to rule out any inconsistencies?
This is great lol
Best idea probably
I hope they do consider reworking the thermal to interact with runner heat, its one of the best ideas ive seen so far
i like this
Dude yes
We were seeing if it mattered
Wait AM? Idk
true cause thermals easily counter basically everything in the game right now, there's zero counterplay to them
Tomorrow at reset i really wanna go full force on this
Ill drop reddit posts at work tomorrow. If we decide on times can someone sticky the post?
This outlier
ill whip up somethin
now kiss
SICK
DM it to me so I can help distribute
mb i just sorta went demon mode here 💀
Im going to bed in a minute here
lol
Odd
Only thing I can think of is maybe a bunch of people hopped on for the dire marsh terminals? That was just a little bit after they got unlocked
That and I don’t understand Bungie’s approach to this ARG. You market your game relentlessly as the PVP slaughterhouse and then go “Alright for this puzzle, we need entire lobbies to harmonize and hold hands!”
Yeah that’s the only think I can think of
Even then that's a huge jump for just a single stats update...
We would say get to the mines but there’s no mines anymore 
So I agree with this and I think our approach to this, run in terminal terminal, disconnect, do it again, is not how they wanted us to do it, imo. So I think they changed something. This is highly speculative but 🤷🏼♂️
Should be that friendlies can help progress arg or the number of runner kills you have counts towards progress when doing the arg steps. So its help us dead or alive
that or making them prestige only
When did they ever "relentlessly" market the game as "the PVP slaughterhouse"
it was working, we just didnt have enough people
This is still what I believe 100% I’m just saying since we hit a wall we’ve entered speculation territory
Someone tested runner kills between touching both terminals that does nothing rite
they dont really ask us to harmonize, we just have to do what durandal gets us to do, and whether we choose to work together or not is up to us. Lorewise there's no reason not to, and an arg where you just kill each other is lame
100%
I have a theory that each map has a specific variable across all 3 terminal routes that need to be executed. Bungie told us the answer directly on Perimeter.
On the last line of dialogue, Durendal says “So many marathons yet to run…” which implies you needed 15 min speedruns.
On dire marsh, he says “Take the next step then.” and I have no idea what that means
if anything we'll just have to wait till the weekend and get both Dire Marsh and Outpost done in like two days
A little recap for asleepless man getting sleep what happend last few hours?
Maybe we're only allowed to crouch walk between terminals 💀
I think this will be the case.
are we waiting for the weekend to do it? if so is it just gonna be testing stuff until then?
I agree, do we have what the dialogue is from all the terminals on marsh?
Agreed - regardless of how Bungie "intended" us to do it, we have proven we can brute force it. Just a matter of when the wave of people swells large enough.
I think the speculation territory is a little dubious because there's the factor of streamers pretty much ignoring the arg for a large part of today. If they do a big push and we still cant progress, then yeah its prob diff
probs just an easter egg but still sick
Yeah at the very least finish dire Friday, unlock outpost Saturday finish it then
Ty
That is incredibly sick
PEAK
didn’t people run w the haunted idea and start posting ghosts earlier was that legit
i'd like it if we can keep the bars from hitting 0% just to make the process that tiny bit faster on the day of, but either way it'll be hundred by the weekend since thats most likely when peak playerbase is
Yeah I agree wait until we have the numbers and it still fails until we start grasping at straws
Then do tests. Get a bunch of ppl to run. All wait till reset x (time) then start running terminals like mad for a cycle.
Add all runs that did start and end terminal within the 15 min timer. See increase/decrease.
Issue is we need enough to be patient enough to wait and coordinate.
I really do think its just number of runs. We racked the percentage up pretty high by doing that. When mot doing that anymore kt dropped. The kill counter is probably just a global thing something later after the terminals.
Like, we need to hit an amount after terminals to proof the community is ready. They did something like this in an old halo arg. There the killcount counter was doing something later in the process.
daaaaamn the bars went down ):
Don’t know if it’s relevant but I spotted some black UESC scout drones on Dire Marsh I’ve never seen before in the game. And I only saw them after the terminals went live.
I have a question, as someone who missed the Perimeter segment of this: on the cryoarchive systems site, we can screen capture the "glitches" on stable camera feeds (and with it, get a "captured" marker on the camera. What purpose does this serve? It didn't seem well-explained in the community google doc.
I agree 100%
Gahhh, im gonna head in for the night, prob gonna work in blender for a lil before i knock out. Hope to see yall tomorrow in full force for the ARG, it's been fun talking with yall!
its def possible to get it to 100% with just us. its just every reset we do it we'll only get like 2% with how little people know about the terminals and how many of us are doing it. so its prob just best to wait weekend
goodluck in the blender mines soldier, i just got out of there
lmao fair fair
as of now we dunno what the captures we unfortunately... :(
Do you remember where?
well i dunno atleast
i just like making renders with my guardians + friends
So I was wondering this and the voice lines say the ship is haunted. People were pointing out whispy ghost looking stuff on the camera. We supposed to play Luigi’s mansion?
Well, that would explain why there isn't much of an explanation in the doc lol. Thanks!
They were patrolling the Anomaly border and were immune. No clue if it was a quest thing or puzzle related
Is there any chance the Compilers make cameras bug out or something?
lol
We’ve done plenty of test. What we’re doing is working I’m not suggesting by theorizing that it isn’t. (Not trying to come off harsh or whatever but I’m also not trying to argue with anyone either)
Okay I made a graphic to kinda push on socials to try and get more bodies. Any feedback from you all?
Yo let’s go Durandal’s cardio
helll yeah haha
Hahah np we are all working towards the same goal. Ill be on in about 9.hours from now and gonna try to coordinate some runs then.
There are also huge disconnects when time zones log off and on en masse
that looks great
Yeah looks good
🤜🏻🤛🏻
lol thanks
ill share it around to try and spread the word
👍
hey guys, just noticed this channel. Am new to Marathon. What is this all about? It seems like in-game activity?
Holy shit that is great
theres a google doc explaining it
looks sick
How can I help?
Cool cool cool! Everyone please spread it to wherever on socials. It's fit for twitter, x, whatever the hell it's called
Seems to be working already
Great place to start > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mtUtDPvbh6ahiynYFVS7Z4O79Nw6y5PEOjweCpzWV_A/edit?tab=t.0
This entire document is navigable via the collapsible menu on the left, many pieces of information may be not relevant yet, a red herring or already completed. https://discord.gg/MVnbVxHQz - this server has vc’s, LFG and more focused discussion around the arg, for now this is not necessary but...
This entire document is navigable via the collapsible menu on the left, many pieces of information may be not relevant yet, a red herring or already completed. https://discord.gg/MVnbVxHQz - this server has vc’s, LFG and more focused discussion around the arg, for now this is not necessary but...
IVE BEEN SAYING THIS SINCE THE CINEMATIC ‼️‼️‼️
that was fast lol
First? :p
Yes.
Folks just joining! Welcome! Please refer to reference material provided. We are currently in a lull and not actively working towards any goal, please stay posted! Your help will be needed soon!
Being able to pin the google doc would be nice.
this ^
We’ve begged bungie for days for privileges and it has not worked
Can’t even react
Some think this is intentional
Ironic considering we have no slowdown and image/gif perms
And polls can’t forget the polls!
Reactions aside, Discord is randomly super easy to phish people, I imagine Bungie has it locked down to prevent people linking sussie stuff
breach chat best chat
Well, they do let us link docs/external websites etc tho
Agreed. It’s clearly moderated to some extent, it can’t not be, but we are allowed strange freedoms
I wonder what the thought process was
smh the UESC overlords have brainwashed us into thinking those perms are freedom
equivalent exchange, we get image and gif perms but our reaction perms get revoked...
We dont need to, Windows breaks itself often enough
or destroyers turbo sprint through them after finishing a box of crayons
Drake is that you?
Im so glad they went away from the cel shading
I don't know exactly what im doing but I am rallying my friends to hit terminals in dire marsh on all their runs tommorow
Get those steps in with Durandals Daily Cardio
Rip D2 bro
This game be hitting though
_GANTRY 
oi runnah, you peepin what the big uesc is doing down in outpost? go send em a message.
CONTRACT: DEFACE/PRESERVE
OBJECTIVE: in a single run
- break 3 windows
- loot doohickey from pinwheel that isn't marked until you are 5m away from it
- exfil
I love you gantry
Yeah I’m not going to post like an official time for people to check in or anything but I imagine people will start coordinating around reset tomorrow, 10 AM PST, and runs around 5PM PST unless folks in the EU start sooner
hey, sorry i've been away and also in game grinding a bit, just come back and i just saw this image
has anyone commented that it's either rotated or double mirrored?
I assume it should look like this instead.
just based on the UESC wording orientation
But screw it im gonna say the goal should be Algae Ponds->Bio Research, or whatever the majority decides if there’s even enough to make a majority. But run on one of set of the Dire Marsh Terminals
you can unmute the cameras, I assume this is known
original image is this
the version i posted is double mirrored (mirrored in both directions) "mirrored means 'flipped' here
to me it looks upside down and that is the floor with pipes on the side
i think this is right too, its some kind of straps and they all say uesc in that oriendtation
not enough ppl
shoot
people need to refuel i would assume
so tomorrow during the day then
Eu is gonna be on around 7 CEST / 11 am PST
it was a big grind to figure out first set
RecycledRespawn said current goal is Algae Ponds -> Bio Research, but we've got too few right now i believe
alright ill get some sleep and prepare to run tomorrow
im a failson anyways i can lock in all day
yeah I’m just defaulting to the last successful point as a default for the next surge of people that log in and look for direction, but I wouldn’t suggest people do it now
biostock went up by 4% lol, think its some stragglers
Or devs
It's all just random and the devs are laughing all the way to the bank.
Release schedule is "when it's done" and not a day sooner.
i promise u cryo has been finished for a long time
See, posts like this make me wish this channel had reacts
This arg was in the works since december atleast lol
its like nutrient paste
Just reply with🫃
It was sarcasm if it didn't come across properly
is this the messege place for disscusion about the arg?
yes
lmao
hello all, to those that are able we are going to possibly be beginning a "nightshift" of people to troubleshoot our theories
ahh ok
i mean.. do we even need to theorize right now? we know exactly what we need to do atm
is it possible the rook runs are hurting the progress
HUH Nightshift isnt this morning shift
like they nerfed it
Night is the time when the W'rkencaner-infested solar mass above our heads is facing the other side of our planet. 🙂
Try some crackers
highly doubt it
cool, cause i found something on the arg site, but im unsure if people who are spear heading the investigation know about it. like did i discoverd somthing that's already been found
mmmmm
do share
Yes, we do
We've known since saturday
The easiest approach is to just wait around 18 hours
Until the devs post a new nessage
yeah we all just dump stuff here as we find it
you'll find out quickly if it's been found or not
then why are my progress bars going backwards, i need you out there pushing buttons runners, now get me more pictures of spider bot
At which point they're fed up with our lack of coherence and start boosting the percentage
i figured out that changing the url words to the words int he camra neeted me these new angles /camras
That's been found on friday
dam
Awesome
Still cool tho
Yeah
You can also post full images instead of screenshotting red hue
I love the camera with the lost uesc robot he's so cute
it's all good and still a good find. definitely stick around, we need all the help we can get.
i've found tons of stuff that's already been found, but it's all for the love of the game
Here's your exercise in futulity
Does anyone have the uncompressed image and video files compiled somewhere for some more thorough looking-at? Seems like there's some free time right now
@drowsy sparrow I’m so sorry for the ping I need to test something hope you’re having a wonderful nights rest
like dude you're in the wrong place cro </3
yeah i found all the screen stuff and wonderd what else people found so i joined the discrod to find out
Yeah sorry if I'm sounding disappointed but I really am. In the arg tho, not you mb
na i get it, i figured people found this before i did
Appreciate it but I'm still running 🤣🤣
what screen is that on? that angle is not in my screen shot list?
indx (specifically mispelled)
Also /cryohub not control
oh ya that too
Oh snap lmao. 🤘🏻 I messaged you
Cryoarchive Systems
that's what im missing lol, cause the normal index just returned me to the main screen
Fyi, for people interested in finding stuff and seeing what others have found, there is also the ARG Megathread. https://discord.com/channels/1303855380845301861/1480075402088288506 Please try to research if what you have found is already there before posting to avoid it being spammed, but it's a very good place to post findings 😄
Yeah, but the Google Doc mostly covers the breach protocol
Uhh
In the megathread we have uncovered stuff about the other subdomains before they were taken down
Look at the channel name
Yeah there was nothing on them anyway
Yes, but the ARG megathread covers more than just the breach protocol
New tab?
Check out my Github post in the megathread
No
naur
Ahh
Oh, phantom was interesting alright mb
I just find the lone uesc fellow mildly cute with how lost he appears to be X3
"I gotta get outta here mane"
I assume we'll meet it later
are you supposed to be able to click the cams after the countdown finishes?
just went right back to a countdown for me
Definitely. I wouldn't be surprised if it is somehow related to the ghost in the cams? Considering the subdomain was named phantom. Maybe we'll be drawing it
not sure who is heading this, but i found this on github and it seems to be a very good resource dump
https://github.com/dghost/ares/tree/trunk/cryoarchive.systems
Countdown is the window where terminal activations should happen. At the end the server takes ~30-70 second to tally up then it's all over again
question, are the cam's on a hard 15min loop?
They're in this channel. Also on the clade or jta, i don't remember
they arent really cams, the timer is just a window for hitting terminals in game
just asking if it was 15 or not as it seems that the timer was roughly a minute less this time.
its always 15
weird behavior if you zoom way in or way out on the cargo page, zoom out takes you to the index view and zoom in unblurs the blur effect on the bg image (assuming the filter is just getting scaled unintentionally)
wait it's the opposite lol
ya zooming in makes the fuzz particles bigger x3
and zooming in too much makes it think you're viewing from mobile I think because then it tells you to use a desktopo X3
trying to see if rook is the issue are we?
what's the issue here
some think rook might not count for terminal runs
under what basis
rook cant complete contracts i guess
Don’t think there’s any indication it would be though, the voice line is what counts
yea i very much doubt it
we haven't solved these 3 yet because we don't have like 4 big streamers and all their fans running them
like we did last time
x3
yea less people online today + no streamers
separate issue, but i couldnt do the anomaly as rook, and it doesnt show up on the map
Send More Runners
RoflWaffl pushing Rook runs
No answers yesterday on Rook counting, everybody today immediately answers yes
We should test a no rook cycle or two
i normally run solo assassin with daily free kit for my runs anyway
Plus, very little progress despite many more new Breachers entering the channel
rofl was not pushing rook runs was he? fairly certain he was pushing squads
at least while i was there
I've heard from 3 different people he was, I don't watch streamers often
gotcha
perhaps you should research yourself before making definitive statements X3
sorry that came across as rude
while i really dont think itll make a big difference (since we still need way more people anyway), i get why you wanna rule it out
it would be kinda dumb for bungie not to allow it
especially when you get voice lines from the terminals still
Yeah we attempted uesc kills earlier to rule it out/see if it made a difference
either way a weekday
Still inconclusive btw imo just cause of the numbers but I think it’s fair to see if Rook makes a difference either way specifically
But we’ll need the numbers to test it and see either way
We gotta get cross to help us
If we can get 9-12 people rn to test it, we could see measurable change over a cycle or two, perhaps
so anyone know what up with the terminal that showing off a location in primiter near one of the destroyed walls?
Two cycles all Rook, two only shells
Totally fair I’m interested, I’m so tired I can’t keep my eyes open or I’d help so someone update the google doc or dm me the results and ill have it updated tomorrow
waiting for tomorrow
so a streamer can save us
also trying to run a test right now to see if rook counts or not
lmao imagine if rooks havent been doing anything this entire time
that's the south relay terminal, you mean.
basically if you head to south relay an see the terminal, then head up to data wall and see the one there, you get dialogue from Durandal
durandal asmr 🤤
and while we were working on perimeter, hearing the line from Durandal would contribute progress to the ARG on cryoarchive.systems
now, its the same for Dire Marsh
oooh so that explain why i got a voice line of him mad that we were here
Saw that, but I'm not entirely sure it has all the files :v gotta double check
He was pretty much just saying" You should't be here" or something along those lines
was there a reason milo wasnt doing it?
just playing with his friends pretty sure
word
i didn't really check that hard but it definitely has more than any other source i've seen
Clocking out for the night yall, see yall at 7pm est after im off work to keep going
Hopefully we get this done by the end of the week
I think it'll be smooth sailing once we're done with the terminals
I’m out too folks my watch has ended. Again if/when the next surge happens refer to the google doc, Dire Marsh terminals are the goal https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mtUtDPvbh6ahiynYFVS7Z4O79Nw6y5PEOjweCpzWV_A/mobilebasic#heading=h.58g5fcautxzz
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Whats news?
No unlocks? 
Okay last reply, nothing. Bio-algae capped at 66% nothing past that but testing theories, didn’t have the numbers
just woke up, did the dire terms get done?
no
bruh
damn.
And we triiiiied
Oh my god did we try
maybe bungie need to tweet more and push more idk
It was a Monday
Graph is starting to look more graph-y
Weekend numbers might be what we need
Or we do
maybe theyre timegating it by inflating the numbers needed to stabilise then lowering the number required when theyre ready
i honestly think thats' what the uesc kill counter does
Someone made this earlier so feel free to use it to bring others here
interesting, like an indicator for activity on the map, more people focusing on dire marsh, the more effective it is
This whole saga has been insane looking from the outside in
I haven't even gone to Outpost once cuz it scares me, Cryo Archive is just gonna be a horror game
play it on rook
I did so many runs for the terminal last night I dreamt about it xD
what happened?
how can i help
Check out this https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mtUtDPvbh6ahiynYFVS7Z4O79Nw6y5PEOjweCpzWV_A/preview?pru=AAABnPgFQQM*ppdGsIE5PnnIduJGKwrkrw&tab=t.0
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heres a link to the current guide, https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mtUtDPvbh6ahiynYFVS7Z4O79Nw6y5PEOjweCpzWV_A/mobilebasic#heading=h.58g5fcautxzz
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We didn't make it
thats actually so funny
Yeah, I seriously recommend Rook runs. You can get into the pinwheel without a keycard, too. It can be pretty lucrative.
Honestly just hang out for now/read the google doc we’ll coordinate later today
Even in my dreams we fail 😢
Yall just gave up 😾
I just woke up to nothing like how haha
Guys is the patch today?
If you’re not even running hard enough in your dreams, you’re not a true marathon-er
Where are we at rn?
How many camera feeds do we have stable?
🤣
Progress was made just nothing tangible
Still the same 3
Deadlock mentioned.
Peak Game
That reminds me I need to do a street brawl
i had a dream i met durandal and he threw me across tau ceti
Haven’t touched the game since the Server Slam and I’m even more scared now since the balance patch dropped
Damn, we will get there
I still owe Durandal money, dude.
Durandal owes me a bouquet of flowers
7 million souls to durandal
Okay I’m legit out this time yall keep up the good work o7 see yall soon.
durandal called me s'pht
benstarrdal owns everyone flowers
I believe next legit try is like 4pm PT
So I won’t even bother until then
is he voiced by ben starr?
yes
wow
ben starr is everywhere
My favourite balatro cosplayer
ben starr does things for money, and things happen because ben star appears
I NEED CRYO. INJECT IT IN MY VEINS
true
thats instant death
No he'd be cryofrozen
Just get a new shell afterwards
Lies, under UESC principles you are safely asleep
It's how I want to go out
UESC Kills so many innocent people (including me)
The UESC doesn’t kill, it removes trespassing criminals
Or so I’m told
i wonder the camras are just step 1
but i am jst a humbl rook looking for shiny tings, i am one of them 🙁
the lore is i see thing, it is now mine, no one kill me bc im rlly nice
Had a peace treaty with 2 rooks, 1 rogue rook came in and made it into a free for all bcs we can’t differentiate between each other
Soundtrack is amazing
i got beat up by a 3 group, barehanded, i was jumping to show friendly, and it was the most scary thing seeing all three approach at once
Someone should Pin the link to the doc
Sorry
🤣 ❤️
No worries bruh just let us finish this shit before reset
How close are we? My crew can run tonight
Official deadline is basically end of march
Mid*
March 17th isn’t it
Well second half of march can also mean last week
Yeah
The quicker we crack it, the more time we get to raid?
Correct
Yep
Tho cracking it will take more than 2 weeks if we actually have to do 6 more steps
@mortal quail 💋
It is, probably the only game ost besides tlou that I've been listening outside gaming. Also fun how it made a regular subway ride feel very scifi thins morning
yes, it just takes a while
i understand we need to activate terminals right?
We had biostock at like 50 before I got off and now it's back all the way down to 14??? Yikes
on marsh in order
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thx bro
biostock is up to 14?
that's good
Was at 50
Biostock was
it was at 5
At 66
after 50
70?? Dang...well, back into the murky waters I go
I will join the cause tomorrow after my medical appointment
rofl and shroud need to team up to bring people on
we need more noise
I don't like streamers, but for stuff like this, We'd need MrRoflwaffles, Shroud and maybe even Peanut to get us over the line...it's too bad people hate on the game so much that some people won't even stream it
Officially tested, Rook counts, ruled out the possibility of him not counting
yh i know its absolutely ridiculous
Dope, I'll just rook it
It would be silly if rooks didn't count
I've been doing knife only runs xD
Rooks voice lines are so nice
something about the filter and the crunch is just
Mwah
What’s the benefit of playing rook if you can’t do contracts?
I go solo with just a knife. Most people dont shoot when i greet them and tell them what im doing.
recoup losses
Wasn't even trying to do anything but terminals but made some decent finds, even extracted with the Anomaly thing from the event xD
Grind loot and money
1 you dont leave a random team thats actually tryna play 2 faster load times
Me checking the camera progress when I wake up in the middle of the night to go to the bathroom:
Sure you don't have to worry about weapons with kits, but you do need money and materials for barters and upgrades
Though you can do solo fills
Better spawn, there isn't as many people in the match since its later in the match.
With no fill *
Can you do a terminal run multiple times, or does doing it once complete it for you for the day?
Disregard #1 i forgot abt no fill
Multiple times
Dope
Go to first term then second leave game once voice line plays
I will be a speed demon
Rinse and repeat
Phoon too much for Tau Ceti IV
Per match
^
So one set per match, so I can't just rush all 3 sets
No you can do all 3 sets i believe, but we focus on 1 set at a time
Honestly I just hope they add a DM mode at some point, the gunplay is super fun
100%
Destiny 2 Crucible
But destiny 2 takes up so much spaaaaaaaace
I played D2 for a bit, it was really fun but is structured like a heart attack illustrated by a psych ward patient
Too much money
That too
Where can I watch the progress of each camera?
Or 60 for base
Im realizing in the MV that destroyer wasted his shield furing exfil
def wouldve ate the beam otherwise
Aight which set of terminals we on now
same
So like can someone explain what’s going on?
Ohhh
Doing two interconnected terminals in each of the maps, in pairs, to progress a bar to unlock the final map, Cryo Archive.
Does progress get made across all terminals on the map, or does each set have its own progress bar
The terminals are linked pairs, and each linked pair is a different bar of progress, but weve collectively chosen to focus one matching pair at a time
Dope
So like do we interact with the terminals?
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here's a totally well formatted document about everything we know
pretty much
You just gotta walk up to em, if youre at the wrong one it'll do nothin cuz youre at the end of the pair, not the start
outpost wont unlock until we finish dire marsh ones
We gotta get darsh done furst
did we manage to complete anything in Dire? cant check the website on my phone
no
waiting till the peak tmrw
might be able to do outpost too if we have enough people
Which pair is getting focused rn?
Algae Ponds to Bioresearch, at least yesterday thats what it was
Doesnt mean you personally can't run that pair tho
So like how does this progress?
All that matters is triggering a voice line from our "friend" Durandal.
I ran terminals 2 hours yesterday and it turns out we didn’t make it 😭
We just debunked the rook theory. You can play as rook or any shell you want, it doesn't matter.
We also found out you CANNOT leave the game after hitting the 2nd terminal. You have to either die or extract for it to count.
I see
Just woke up, damn I hoped we'd make it over this night
This time for sure
This we do not know
How did you learn that?
We tested in the ARG Discord with a bunch of people. Several runs
We're testing stuff right now
Haven't checked in since we completed the Perimeter terminals. Any updates? We running Dire Marsh yet?
We've been going for multiples periods already
Got it, I actually was doing exactly that and I think a bunch of other people too, probably that's why we didn't complete it
wdym complete it?
we fucked up?
The biostock
Oh yeah no way we're completing it right now. We need a LOT of people. Gotta wait for peak times
we have to coordinate
It'll be later, wait for ppl to wake up
yeah, but there needs to be a clear path to run
Everyone need to just run algae to bio research
if we run all 3, I don’t think we can make it
Yes, we are focusing bio
see, I think we should focus on the longest path first
We need some reddit posts ahead of time to get people online during peak
Do the terminals reset each day?
they lower every 15 mins
Oh, that makes sense
They lower?
Yeah I think we had biostock above 60% earlier
the progress bar goes down
Oh
64% baby
I guess I’ll join the discord and see how I can help
They update every 15 mins, and depending on the numbers of runs done, they either go up or down
64% of the time every time
do we know what the minimum number of runs is to maintain it?
The link to the discord is in the document right?
No, it changes depending on the current amount of progress
and possibly other factors
Yeah, they are doing tests rn
Something about a.. marathon?
2am utc are peak times, so we have so few Europe players
We can’t rly make a difference
Mind you that legal hour still hasn't kicked in in most of europe
Where can one find this document?
The what?
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We still have to turn the clock back lol
Yes, ofc
But Europe doesn’t contribute to the player count that much, like no spike on charts
9pm gmt peak is the best shot at contributing on eu servers
does the progress actually go down if not enough runs are done lol
if no interactions yes
Appears so
that's crazy lol
it nosedived overnight
it's like 6pm in china rn but idk how many people here are trying to help w the arg... possible there isn't a big playerbase or arg itself isn't very known
this info doesnt look accurate
Its like that water gun carnival game
@slate oracle @dawn sun @candid crystal Just so yall know when you're up
what happened damn
regroup and research
no one on, we havent been running cause there isnt a point
sleep happened
Don't think sales in china are high from what iv seen
fair enough
there is a point
I mean we've been running in the ARG disc for testing, but theres no point in going all in cause we dont have enough people right now
i think it's just hard competition bc rn the most popular shooter in china is an extraction shooter lol
We had a collective mental breakdown at about 1:30am, a few had been at it for like 10 hours lol
obvi theres no point for the moment while everyones not on
We decided the EU gang was needed
were gonna try to standardize the api tracking data to https://winnower.garden/marathon/cryoarchive it seems to be the most accurate to the cryarchive page
Okay you must be new here lol
everyone's playing delta force so no one on marathon which makes this quite unfortunate if progress actually goes down
We do not have enough people. the progress goes down every 15 mins if we dont do enough runs
we need more people
"more runners needed" lol
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Anyone have Aztecross' phone number
no? i know whats happening, I know we need more people, we just have to wait for now, duh.
this link has a link to arg discord so we can coordinate a lot better
girl thats literally what ive been saying
man*
i meant it in a gender neutral way sry
What’s the best way to help currently?
sit back and relax. learn the routes for dire marsh
hit it later when everyones on
were estimating the time of most accurate players as the daily reset at 10 am pst (6 pm utc)
👍
Why is the ARG Discord age restricted?
While we're waiting...do they always do this?
disappear? yes
for real?
Can confirm it is this most accurate when i look at the apis on my end
Yrah yeah its 911
you should be able to join now
age verif for the arg disc should be disabled, join if you can
Just did the terminal pair on dire Marsh as rook, hope it helped
I propose running the routes longest > shortest
or even trying to run circuits, if that’s possible
Yea
We are focusing bio first
explain?
if it’s possible to register more than one terminal pair in one run, then we should run circuits of 2 or more pairs every run
they’re 25 minutes, with a 15 minute signal window
That's not as efficient as focusing every body on one pair
We discussed this and decided it wasnt worth. can get so much more done by focusing one. plus less risk
Yeah so progress decays every 15 minutes. So a large number of people need to do the same terminal pair in a single 15-minute window to make progress. Progress also scales down per player as the progress bar gets closer to 100%. So the more progress there is, the more players are needed to make further progress
Thank you 👍
Damn just finished morning work. Did the americans just go to the pub or something
We did so well
americans are asleep lol
I’m not talking about taking 2 terminals at the same time, just chaining them if possible
*when possible
The decay is so silly, i did 12 terminal runs for nothing
No, focus one, its faster, less risk.
thats too long between, especially since it seems that a player needs to die at the end of a terminal run in order for it to count
This is what worked for perimiter as well
Yeah once a terminal hits 100% it no longer decays, so easier to clear them 1 at a time
Hey guys, is there a place where can fing a short story of what happends here ?
Doing the algae ponds bio research pair
As far as I'm aware, this isnt the case, testing earlier seemed to indicate otherwise.
we literally just tested it, you have to die or extract
We need to focus on one pair, otherwise people would spread across different terminals and the progress would drop
where did you undergo testing, with who and with how many people? not being accusatory, just asking
About 5 hours ago, but yeah if thats new as of then, makes sense
the windows are 15 minutes anyway - that has to cover queuing and running from POI to POI, and if you get a bad spawn, that’s it anyway
if maintenance quotas really increase with progress, it’s probably better to at least try to get something done
can you join the arg server and call so we can expain deets further, speaking is more effectuve than text
We better finish the run and go on a second one within this window
actually nvm
when do we rush the term ?
I mean, when one is 100% it doesn't go down and there are many ways to misinterpret more complicated directions when so many people are involved. We have to do something simple and effective
I agree
from what i gather from this conversation is that the terminal runs only count during a specific time window? how do i know when it starts?
They always count
Cryoarchive Systems
but picking a “focus” pair, but allowing people to chain it with their most convenient spawn seems like a more efficient strategy
then whats that 15min you're talking about?
yeah, we rush single terms, then get them to max so they dont decay, and we move onto the next
a period between each "transmission reception" where terminal progress is logged
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the feeds refresh every 15 minutes. during that time we need to run X times or more to increase the progress bar for a specific terminal pair
if we run less than that, the progress stalls or falls
just do free loadout and when the pair is do abandon the run
you can check the time left in a window on .systems
alright, thanks for the clarification. guess its a matter of having enough ppl and coordinate then... easier said than done
specially during week days
How’s the running going, any more progress?
People here say that you have to die or exfil for it to count, not leave
all is lost sadly
do not abandon
it does not count
😭
this exactly
die "normally"
you have to die or exfil
So I'm doing this at the wrong time I guess?
rooks can do these runs as well, right?
yep
yes
not enough running rn, just wait
so it might in fact be better to run infinite rook runs
yep
as long as you can make it within those 10-15 minutes you get
Yep, and they have smaller loading times since they connect to existing match so you would be able to do more runs during the window
do we fix a time ?
Or is it possible to @ the channel?
So what I understand now is that we have to stabilize cameras stream from the website but we have to find out how to make progress for the last 6 cameras right ?
we know how to make progress on them
it’s the same as on Perimeter
do you have to do all three terminals in one match to make progress on the bar?
no
We know we just need enough runners
nope jsut one pair
Moar
what are the peak times for the game?
each pair of terminals correspond to one camera, so focus your efforts on the same pair everyone else is doing
$
To make the 3 runs I guess
I've been running terminals both as rook and as regular shells with my friends in the crew with only knives equipped. The former was more effective since we loaded faster but it was fun to ambush a crew after finishing the run only with our knives
no we're only running one pair right now, we need more players doing it though
we're not even doing perimeter anymore we're on dire marsh
might wanna read up on the doc
since when? the voice is the trigger
Perimeter is finished, we now need runners at Dire Marsh
Don't ask me, I haven't tested it myself
progress on this is so nebulous.. I’m just gonna wait until bungie release the map..
Good thinking to never get community events like these again lol
My friend its literally just press terminals
Right now it’s as simple as activating the terminal at algae ponds then the terminal at bio research. I have no idea whats so hard about that
I love community events like this it's fun
And a coordinated push its not that crazy
Real we need more of these
especially when non-puzzle solving people who just wanna play the game can still get involved like with this one :3
one drawback to arg type stuff is that it can often feel like very very few players get to contribute at all
it’s a shit event to be fair
hi, new to this arg thing, do we need to do the 1st terminal pair before we can interact with the second? because I loaded in, got to terminal 2 start and no prompt or anything
So this map
but this one is nice
part of this was fun, just how to progress is very vague, hidden goalposts
and do #3 specifically, not 1 or 2
running the same path over and over again who knows how many times is kind of soulcrushing
oh damn... all the progress fade away...
I’d understand if it was “X amount of people has to activate all 3 terminals in the right order”
All the info in the megathreads. Currently we don't have a lot of info, but the directions are very clear
but doing Algae to Bio 1000 times sucks the fun out of the game
as it should be! figuring things out is half the fun
Its not vague at all imo
people want answers handed to them without having to look and I love when we're not directly told what to do and need to figure it out
Well I can understand him. On the Perimeter it was kinda fun, especially when we were trying to understand how everything works. But on Dire Marsh it already feels a bit repetitive and there are also Outpost terminals to come. I just hope that future community events would be more creative. Like some real puzzles or something
the number of terminal runs required is hidden, so they can tweak the goal on the backend, depending on player count/interest. So progress is controlled.
Anyone interested in a part of a solved cypher in the bungie vids send me a DM. I would like to aggregate the info I've gotten out of it somewhere for the community to see! Can provide how I've solved this & the whole cypher in full 🙂
The end result is - THE SIGNAL IS NOT LOCAL
FIND THE ORIGIN.
It looks like it goes deeper than this & I'm working on figuring out the meaning.
We are on step 1 out of 5 (i think) there are puzzles to come
this is a good thing imo because it shouldn't be trivial and it shouldn't be impossible. I don't think it would be a good idea to pick a goalpost based on a very flimsy assumption of the number of players participating in the arg
I get that its repetitive (I also think so), still better than just a level cap or something.
cryo is huge wtf
For those of you who are new to ARGs - I would encourage patience. These things sometimes don't go quick and require focus. This is my 12th game.
Hope so. But I still think that they could've done this step better or at least shorter
yeah I doubt just the cameras getting stabilized are enough for us to know how to get into orbit from like a narrative perspective
Perimeter terminals have been pushed in like an hour or two. We just need enough runners that do the same
where did you get this
Achievement art
We Should Not Be Here.
yeah, the progress bar rises fairly quickly, we just need to be coordinated
achievement art
That. Like if I could take a guess, each update phase is velocity based. Like we need to hit a velocity threshold within a window, and then keep hitting it.
my vote is for the longest path - AI Uplink to West Gate
it has a precarious start but you literally get safer the closer you are to the end terminal
or we just stick to the pair we're doing rn so we don't split our efforts when half the players inevitably don't get the memo that we decided to do a different pair first
is anyone only seeing the progress bar for biostock on the page?
ok so thats not a client side thing
potential bug as well, who knows until we see the next cycle in 2 minutes
not enough people got the memo the last time might as well try to optimise it
just needs to be some way to do it
Reddit or mass ping
I guess I just disagree that that would be an optimization given the splitting of efforts then :p
I mean, we could set up a timeframe where people focus on terminal runs. That way it's compacted into a window.
Probably a bug. Makes sense, it's like 4 AM on the west coast.
do we think there is a world we get this done before reset and unlock oujtpost terms today?
Did Dire Marsh get finished last night?
no
Copycopy
It's complicated since there are people running terminals all over the globe
When people from EU go to sleep, people in US go to work/college/etc

I'm staying up until 4 am but I just don't have anything better to do right now
any rook just exil at biolabs, eu svr?
I woke up this morning and camera 5 is back to nothing? What gives?
doubt it, we’d have approx. 6h to do that, and pretty much nobody is on right now anywhere in the world
Indeed. And we're also reaching the point of the week where people naturally play the least. But we're also assuming we fully understand the push mechanic... and we do and don't. We def have ideas on the right path tho.
the progress bar falls every 15 minutes if not enough runs are completed
No one’s doing runs rn, we’re waiting till peak hours to rush pairs
i'm here
lemme solo it
you will solo her?
I think at least 1-2 terminals will get done today
i was doing runs
but not before the reset
I'd agree with that. I feel like we could crack one.
i did biostock runs yesterday, but since i don't know when peak hours are idk when we're supposed to do them today
I'm looking at peak right now.
plus i want to hear the other two audio logs already
what reset are we talking abt tho?
daily in-game reset
honestly if anything just play the game normally hit a terminal pair or two if u can, if anything we get all three done during the weekend, and hopefully outpost during the weekend too
armoury refresh etc.
oooh what time is that
in 6h
Maybe we have to do them in a specific order and we just got lucky last time?
they all go up
it’s a volume thing
nope there’s no order from what we’ve seen, each pair correlates to a progress bar just hit them enough and it goes up