🗣marathon-general-chat

[azure urchin]

you have to read all the codex entries for the lore really

[grave smelt]

You can play any game without knowing the lore. Whats your point?

You can complete RDR2 with sound off and skipping all of the dialogues

[lean latch]

...or destiny 2 lol

But yeah most of the storytelling is in quests or lore codex.

[nova moss]

oatchi

[azure urchin]

you could also play the original marathon games as they are connected lore wise (albeit different with the whole multiversal situation)

[odd nova]

Yeah bungie loves their one-use cinematics

[agile hollow]

(or just watch the MandaloreGaming videos)

[lean latch]

Man, I'm sorry gang :( I keep wanting to run Compiler but I'm having the Raiding Paradox where I want to learn what to do but no one wants to teach me, but they also want me to know it already

[lost bough]

i had to recruit friends by buying the game for them. Now they are hooked and i have people to play with 90% of the time

[lean latch]

I tried that, all of my friends bounced off of the game pretty much :(

Also the original Marathon games are free on steam with excellent FOSS ports

[timber notch]

Im just not really sure what this game is about and now I own it and still confused.

[lost bough]

persistence is key. took my mates a good few hours to start enjoying

[lean latch]

To be fair I was getting frustrated trying to do the worst quest I've ever seen in Sek Gen's quests and I guess that scared them off?

[agile hollow]

thats okay man, im sure there will be general lore videos made

i think Byf has already started on some right?

[lost bough]

play for fun and pvp worry quest later

[grave smelt]

Well, next time do a little research or at least get an understanding if you are buying a pack of sugar or powder bleach before grabbing random stuff from a shelf

[sterile tinsel]

I’m having issues loading into squad fill or solos. I want to play but I feel like the only way I even can play is through maintaining friends who have similar time slots.
The raiding paradox is complete ass too.

Also maybe you and I could squad up? It’d make playing this game easier for me at least with a friend. (You have pronouns in bio so it helps me assume you’ll respect my identity and helps me trust you)

Also on the topic of getting angry, i plan on muting myself and also taking 5 minute breaks after losses to disengage from tilt.

[timber notch]

Well I thought the deluxe edition over the regular was choice

[odd nova]

unfortunately it's too late now but you really gotta listen to what the voices are telling you and not just wait for things to happen to you, they do kinda explain that you're a runner on tau ceti looking for loot under the nose of the space cops right in the first minute or two

[merry flame]

Imma go cry now

[grave smelt]

The choice was to not buy a game that you dont even know the genre of

[azure urchin]

earth uses the moon to build a space ship to go to tau ceti 4 to colonize it, they get there and shit starts happening to the colony itself and the marathon gets attacked by giga advanced aliens and all the companies invested in it want to know what happened but the uesc is super secretive and has whole planet on lockdown. queue you the player exploring the zones

[timber notch]

Yeah but I died and skipped

[bronze idol]

man, rook runs are so chill. ive been running Outpost and ive just been meeting the friendliest people

[ancient snow]

need 1 for cryo

[lean latch]

It's a little too late now, they also have owned the game since Day 2 and while I have almost 200 hours...the second highest playing friend in NA has 20 lol

Also ye I could squad up I suppose! I don't know how many runs I could do right now but still

[grave smelt]

Now imagine arc raiders

[odd nova]

within the first minute or two?? I mean no hate but it sounds like you just kinda do things without much forward thinking or reflection

[timber notch]

Also is like 150fps normal?

[agile hollow]

fellas lets pull back on the little shrugging mild rudeness towards the guy

[sterile tinsel]

I mean no disrespect but you should just look into the game and sort of understand it before dying and logging off. Marathon is weird and complicated and you honestly don’t need people to tell you what it’s about really. Just finish the tutorial and start working on priority and liasion contracts in solo or squad fill

[lean latch]

this has been the exact opposite to my experience, it's been on sight from everyone in outpost against me

[lost bough]

at 1440p?

[grave smelt]

Thats a troll 100%

[bronze idol]

lmao. i got into a gunfight with a squad, SOMEHOW managed to down all three of them, and then rezzed one of em after they promised to be nice, and we went to guarded exfil

[odd nova]

Sorry man I'm trying to be nicer than all these 'just don't play it if you don't get it' guys but I'm baffled

[timber notch]

1080p

[bronze idol]

im on toykyo servers lmao. ive gotten in one gunfight, won, and rezzed em after they said theyd be nice

[sterile tinsel]

I don’t mean now but in the future. I want to play this game as much as I can and I want to get goooooped up. Maybe even start recording gameplay with a vtuber model i’m working on. Get myself out there and make a scene yknow. If i can find people who wanna play as much as me then that’s gold

[azure urchin]

there is a lot of documented and organized marathon lore on youtube, its pretty interesting and cool if you really want to deep dive into the lore start there @timber notch

[grave smelt]

Imagine that he is a troll and reread his messages

[lean latch]

I guess NA is just intherently more hostile (expected, derogatory)

[bronze idol]

true, lmao. cant wait till im back stateside. gonna make lfg so much easier

[agile hollow]

i getcha but I still wanna offer help on the off chance they arent

[digital pelican]

they usually are what can ya do

[timber notch]

What is your guys fps and resolution in game?

[sterile tinsel]

Something I’ve learned is that sometimes it’s a matter of poor reading comprehension because american learning systems are botched to hell and back

[winged pendant]

Mm watch YouTube it is not complicated

[agile hollow]

iunno, i dont think as good as yours

[lean latch]

Do you have the faintest idea how little information I retain without doing it hands on

[odd nova]

shame on me for forgetting trolls exist, on a gaming discord no less

[warped kite]

Man. I’ve started compiler attempts but my heart is not really in it because I haven’t done a six key yet. Anyone have advice for finding a six key or does anyone who has a six key want to run it with someone who has been in the game with them?

It’s just a weird situation. I don’t like how they’ve done this six key.

[sterile tinsel]

I honestly don’t know. I keep my fps uncapped and have all my graphics set as high as i can and i run at a consistent 60+ fps

[azure urchin]

i dont track fps on this game

[timber notch]

I get like 150fps on 1080p with high everything, what AA setting do you use? The game looks kinda blurry and foggy

[naive pine]

Yeah I’m sitting here wondering if I’m experiencing the result of TikTok and our current education systems. Not looking forward to what the trainees at work might be like in the next few decades

[digital pelican]

you are all very smart and not stupid at all just a heads up

[lean latch]

I don't even remember what I ate two days ago

[violet harness]

Still arguing in chat lmao

[grave smelt]

I think thats their weird way of making compiler loot scarcer. Instead of just making compiler harder or his loot droprate worse

[vagrant gulch]

Absolutely friday fucked would be an understatment

[sterile tinsel]

I believe I turn off antialiasing actually. If you haven’t i would also turn off motion blur.

[digital pelican]

i said you are smart not arguing whatsoever

[azure urchin]

i use 4x aa and its very clear for me , maybe motion blur is on for you though its on by default

[lean latch]

It's a Bungie game discord, arguments over nothing are about as normal as breathing

[digital pelican]

im a changed man. nobody here is an idiot. everyone is smart and beautiful and is doing a great job.

[timber notch]

Yeah i turned the AA pff cause I didnt like any of the options and it looked better ill need to find the motion blur setting when I get back on.

[grave smelt]

Bro got warned. Weak

[winged pendant]

If you can't handle running to any two locations in the map and hitting 4 buttons in order then no one can help you dude stop this woe is me I'm helpless bs

[odd nova]

I'm the weirdo who always turns motion blur off

[agile root]

there’s one in maintenance yes

[digital pelican]

okay well u are mean but not stupid. you are smart and capable.

[lean latch]

Got it not gonna get anything talking from ya, thanks tho!

[sterile tinsel]

Well I wish you luck! I don’t have easy access to settings but I’m sure you’ll figure it all out

[merry flame]

We were at maitenence the whole time

[winged pendant]

Correct no one will help you when you just sit here and say oh I'm helpless

[agile hollow]

nah i understand what you mean, thats how i felt a lot of about destiny raiding and LFGing to get practice in

[grave smelt]

Thank you

[agile root]

i’m pretty sure every poi can have them. very possible to rip it out the gate at quarantine, loot it, & push maintenance in sub 5 min

[timber notch]

Thanks I only get like 2 maybe 3 hours a day to play at like 2am-4am

[odd nova]

I feel like it's easy to understand why an otherwise trivial task becomes difficult with other players around actively trying to stop you from doing it

[lean latch]

Ye, people like the guy I just decided to not engage with anymore are part of why it took me so long to find people to do dungeons and raids with so I could actually learn it

[digital pelican]

much love to all such smart runners. go finish some priority contracts and enjoy last hours of cryo.

[lean latch]

My priorities are all MIDA

[agile hollow]

you might just have to queue up into randoms though and be the one trying to teach them

[winged pendant]

Like literally the first stage of trying to help you is hey maybe read the mechanics and you say "no" alright then guess you don't want help

[bronze idol]

rook on rook crime. its a sad world we live in

[agile hollow]

or ill just hit you up when i try to learn lmao, but im still a good bit off from that

[lean latch]

Maybe? I'll admit I've had awful luck with trying to find people with microphones so teaching micless would be uh...not possible lol

[dense stone]

rook is the best character

[digital pelican]

that is challenging. truth lies 6/6 was so frustrating but you are smart and you can do it.

[sterile tinsel]

He wants to go into the map and learn for himself with people either learning with him or teaching him

[grave smelt]

You are contradicting yourself. You said that you dont retain information unless you learn hands on yet you came here to ask questions and argue with people that suggest meticulously crafted video guides. You learn hands on, why are you asking for information if you are going to forget it anyway?

[odd nova]

a video guide is not hands on

[lean latch]

Brother are you trying to erm actually me in a discord about a video game, get blocked

[grave smelt]

Well yes. Nothing is except going to #lfc-cryo-archive which is not what he does

[digital pelican]

all of you are geniuses and can do whatever your heart desires

[naive pine]

Realizing that this game may be struggling partially because people passively engage with all their media these days

[dense stone]

i agree with this

[grave smelt]

Its just so performative

[odd nova]

"Do you want to watch a video" "No, I'd rather--" "THEN THERE IS NO PLEASING YOU"

[lean latch]

I appreciate you a lot considering the brick walls i'm talking to

[agile root]

that & expect things to be catered to their individual tastes. & heaven forbid you have to read or learn through a bit of friction!

[grave smelt]

Rather what?

[lean latch]

HOW FUCKING DARE I WANT TO PLAY THE GAME TO LEARN TO PLAY THE GAME WHAT FUCKING HEATHENOUS SWINE I AM

[odd nova]

rather play it themselves, I assume, but i'm not op

[timber notch]

Maybe the marathon is finding out why we run4loot

[digital pelican]

that is amazing i dont think any of you are stupid, runners unite we can all get these contracts done and get our gold loot!

[sterile tinsel]

Same thing with like google shit. “Yo how do i do this” “google it” “no i want to ask people” “there is no pleasing you”

Like it’s just easier to give information than to just tell people to go away because they have options

[winged pendant]

I just completely fail to understand why someone telling you what to do in the game lobby is so different from someone telling you from YouTube. It's literally the same thing. No one is going to start a game without trying to explain the mechanics first, which leads us right back to what I'm saying just watch a literal 3 minutes video and stop complaining about being so helpless and people night actually help you insane concept

[dense stone]

its not about the loot... its about the enemys we make along the way

[grave smelt]

Then whats the point of asking questions here which is what they did and how this conversation started

[odd nova]

my guy youtube is not in game, please understand that

[tight spade]

Sheesh people are stupid

[winged pendant]

You didn't read

[long oasis]

i can’t read

[naive pine]

Yeah it’s true and makes me really sad to think about

[dense stone]

im kinda a philosopher

[vagrant gulch]

I hate learning how to do things...

[odd nova]

I feel like he never once said 'im helpless please explain it to me' but I didn't follow that closely lmao

[timber notch]

Im just here to show d2 players my deluxe marathon skin

[dense stone]

and emblem

[sterile tinsel]

I think mainly it’s just the fact that people are not helpful at all. Like I get there are stakes but it’s hard to find a team who would be willing to help regardless of experience. Mainly because this game inherently benefits a selfish and toxic community moreso than one of generosity

[lean latch]

No they're right, obviously if I dared to ask to hop in with someone who already knows how to do vaults I just want them to do all of it for me, I'm a giant man baby and need a milk bottle handed to me

[timber notch]

Yes. I want them to know I paid 80$ cad for this and not destiny

[tight spade]

Thats rough man

[grave smelt]

U are a giant manbaby though

[lean latch]

After 12+ hours of reading for college every week I don't WANT to read lol

[odd nova]

no I"M the giant manbaby

[naive pine]

This game is for post-college, where you feel like reading again haha

[bronze idol]

im a bit of a lore nerd, so ive been doing codex stuff, and the only one i hve left is Unknown Origins. what is a compiler, and where do i find it?

[sterile tinsel]

I mean I actually throw tantrums

[timber notch]

I read the entire eula

[tight spade]

Destiny players fighting for who is the biggest child. Typical

[lean latch]

I hope it's around in 2 years then lol

[odd nova]

jeez who pissed in your cheerios

[merry flame]

Bruh, is the canadian dollar worth less than a peanut?

[sterile tinsel]

This chat just confuses me like god people hate people for no reason

[grave smelt]

Goop

[timber notch]

We like 0.7 now

[gritty lichen]

Just had a wild solo dire game, killed a guy, instantly third partied and only lived because bubbles+panacea+destroyer dash is quite broken, other guy gets fourth partied but kills the guy, someone comes up to fifth party him and I kill both of them, idk what was going on, everyone was full purp/blue too.

[radiant zealot]

this game pretty good

[lean latch]

I don't understand why these dudes came in swinging when I literally didn't even do anything to them? They really want someone to argue with I guess lol

[naive pine]

But honestly though, I had a nice guy in crew fill teach me the basic mechanics of Cryo in 1 run; I didn’t really ask for a whole run through either, just pointed questions when I came across new things. Learning that way is also best for me, though sometimes I try videos too

[timber notch]

I just block silently and dont engage

[sterile tinsel]

Yeah i mean it’s mainly just them looking down on people constantly. If you ask questions here people will just pick you apart and criticize you then act like they’re cool for it

[subtle kindle]

Why is there no LFG Channel?

[radiant zealot]

got so many golds from outpost to ight its like theyre giving em away

[odd nova]

People get defensive when they think they're being attacked and discord chat is touchy as hell

[lean latch]

There is! It's just below lol

[digital pelican]

i hope all of you incredibly smart runners have a wonderful night looting and shooting.

[bronze idol]

#lfc-any-zone

[sterile tinsel]

I’m gonna eat a melatonin capsule

[subtle kindle]

It wasn’t showing

[lean latch]

EEPY creature

[digital pelican]

that is awsome sleep is soo good.

[odd nova]

Also I think they hide themselves by default

[radiant zealot]

bro bought the collectors edition

[bronze idol]

anyone know where i can find the compiler? trying to get all the Threat Codex entries

[sterile tinsel]

The loathsome melatonin capsule eater

[radiant zealot]

this collector edition my first statue lol makes me want more now

[lean latch]

GOD I FUCKING LOVE SLEEP

[gritty lichen]

Gotta do vaults 1-6 then use a dna card everytime you go for vault 7, which has compiler

[timber notch]

I eat zoplicone

[mellow pivot]

Which game ?

[sterile tinsel]

I bought the collector’s edition and honestly i only regret it because im literally broke rn and shouldn’t buy anything

The dubious new steam controller calling my name:

[bronze idol]

i understood none of that, thank you though. so its a hidden enemy then, not one i can find wandering around, like the Wardens?

[naive pine]

You are very interesting

[timber notch]

Marathon, I ran out of time tonight

[grave smelt]

Bruh, this is such an idiot crybaby filled server I can't. I am out of here

[radiant zealot]

im broke too bruh

[lean latch]

Yeah people out here really fighting wars over the smallest things. I am glad I took the approach of "just don't engage with people who annoy me" like I've seen on other social media platforms, mental health has been MUCH better since then

[sterile tinsel]

ITS WORTH IT THO LMAO i just need to erm buy the steam controller then yaknow after THAT im done (please god no more)

[mellow pivot]

Is it any good ? I dont have much space in my room. But I just ordered 130$ gaming mice , so hypothetical I can buy a marathon collectors edition instead

[odd nova]

cya tomorra 🫡

[lean latch]

I'm buying the steam controller the moment orders go live, I can sell my current one and get most of the money back thankfully, I have a RAVENOUS need for those touchpads

[radiant zealot]

lol i hope they release a vandal one or destroyer action figure or somethin

[gritty lichen]

It's nothing at all like a normal enemy, it's currently the final boss in the game. Have you ever seen a cryo key? There are 6 cryo keys, each one just called cryo key 01-06. There are 6 vaults in cryo archive, each one has a little one slot item called a subroutine, when you extract with it you get a codex unlock for that subroutine. Once you unlock all subroutines you can fight the compiler. Each cryo vault has a chance to drop a dna access card. Once you have all subroutines there are a few steps you can do to use the dna access card to open vault 7, which has the compiler

[naive pine]

I figured I’d hop in and see what the current vibe was in here before I went to get coffee. The vibe is typical, nature is stable

[mellow pivot]

Well steam control is not a Marathon control so yeah

[grave robin]

Reading this chat is crazy sometimes.

[timber notch]

Im surprised people engage with me at all because I wont in return.

[lean latch]

The overpaid college student who just bought the entire final fantasy series on steam to add to their massive backlog of games they'll definitely get to, I promise, I SWEAR:

[timber notch]

I only play solo no mic

[sterile tinsel]

I literally haven’t touched it so if you want to buy it understand that like… it is the statue you’re buying. Like look at all of what’s in it and just sorta figure it out for yourself. For me I bought an old Halo Reach CE for myself so it’s really up to you. The statues are 100% worth it

[bronze idol]

oh, fuck. alright, time to get to grinding. ive never seen a cryo key, or been on Cryo period lol. im still rockin blue and green loot from just working on codex stuff on perimeter and dire marsh

[sterile tinsel]

If it’s on amazon on release i might be able to immediately buy one thanks to extra funds but if not i might have to wait for my paycheck

[lean latch]

I'll make it Marathon controls

[mellow pivot]

I think they will be available for a long time , so there is no point in buying it now right ? Maybe I will have more space in future in my room

[lean latch]

Steam only sells their stuff through the steam client I'm pretty sure.

[sterile tinsel]

I wouldn’t expect them past season 3 tbh

[timber notch]

Until the frame drops im not really interested in buying anything else

[lean latch]

Hey maybe it'll be like the Halo Reach collectors edition and it will just rot in walmarts into the PS6 generation

[sterile tinsel]

Then farewell 100$ from whatever i can scrape up 🫡

Mama needs her sexy ass controller for Marathon

[mellow pivot]

Season 3 is a long time from now tho but yeah . Honestly I would love it if it was a vandal statue

[gritty lichen]

Yeah don't worry about that at all right now then lol. There's a couple ways to get cryo keys, in outpost there's a room at the middle of pinwheel that takes three red cards to open, that has a guaranteed 1-2 key and a chance for a 3-6, killing wardens, doing lockdowns, and doing convoy all have chances to drop any cryo key as well. It's extremely difficult to get this all done, mostly because the 6 key is stupidly rare and very hard to do.

[lean latch]

What are you using right now? I've been using the 8bitdo Ultimate 2 and have had a great time with it, though I wish it wasn't as much of a pain to get the gyro going on PC

[gritty lichen]

Guys gold volt thrower is good right I just got a second one

[mellow pivot]

But but there is a playstation dual sense marathon edition , how can you buy a steam controller instead 😔 ?

[sterile tinsel]

Kbm! It works but honestly I feel excited having a steam ctrl to play with

[mellow pivot]

Gold v75 is also good

[gritty lichen]

Don't have one of those, I've heard it's good though

[naive pine]

The PS controller is pretty, but I need back paddles and TMR sticks more

[mellow pivot]

I have an 8bitdo keyboard it is pretty hood

[lean latch]

It's funny, I switch between inputs depending on the game but if the Steam Controller is good enough I might try and switch to it full time

[sterile tinsel]

Ima be real. The steam controller has vastly more customization options that immediately outclasses even the xbox elite 2 controller. The playstation controller looks sexy but im a huge nerd and I love having a controller that comes with hell of a lot of versatility.

Like in console games, being able to jump without moving your thumbs is a serious advantage

[proven anchor]

kill all drrvish cheaters i hate chuds so much

[bronze idol]

faaaaaaaah, alright then. time to get some better gear and go grind wardens. actually, ill probably just focus on getting my rook upgraded for now, and do my factions. havent unlocked two of them

[mellow pivot]

Wait why is the steam controller so expensive ?????? 🤔

[sterile tinsel]

Imagine though. The built in trackpad for inventory management mid match 👀 👀

[naive pine]

Yes, back paddles for jumping, crouching, and reloading changed my life

[sterile tinsel]

ESPECIALLY WHEN I PLAYED TITANFALL 2

SLIDE HOPPING GOT ME SOME SICK PLAYS WITH THE XBOX ELITE

[lean latch]

Using the gripsense to switch to a KBM layer when engaging in a firefight so you can use the gyro to aim

[leaden kelp]

So i got to level 100 a bit ago, finished all contracts. Do religious outpost armory runs, never seen a misriah, only golds ive gotten are from spare pvp kills or the contract completes. I generally get a couple solid kills most matches, but lately it just feels like way higher skill sweats? Like all of a sudden im getting BODIED by misriahs, spawn rushing and exfil camping. Tried cryo for the first time a bit ago, full gold teams with infinite grenades that me and my duo could not keep up with. Tried to use my gold items today, ran into my first full gold teams and they thrashed us. My vault is virtually wasted after today and yesterday but even my blue runs are just infested with purple stacks. Wtf happened to the matchmaking? All my enjoyment feels absolutely sucked away cuz I just cant progress anywhere. I know im decent at the game, but wholly on a different playing field than wherever the matchmaking seems to think I should be. Is it just a season level thing?

[mellow pivot]

100$ for steam controller is insane honestly

[gritty lichen]

If you are just casually playing this game and aren't very hardcore, just don't even think about it right now. Cryo is a whole different beast than any other map, it's going to be so much more challenging to do. Just play the other maps for now and have fun, whenever you feel ready jump into cryo and do some matches there but don't stress too hard about getting the vaults done. Make sure to use your gear, it all goes away in June anyway so might as well have fun using it and losing it instead of it getting deleted from your stash!

[naive pine]

Woah! It’s book time

[sterile tinsel]

I’m PRETTY sure gyro needs to be supported in order for that to work :(

[lean latch]

It's most certainly a pricey controller but considering the Dualsense Edge and Xbox Elite 2 seem to be its competition I think 100 bucks is pretty fair.

[mellow pivot]

First time ?

[gritty lichen]

Well, that's just cryo sometimes. Two weekends in a row I lost half my vault and 150k, this weekend I've lived like 6/8 runs and I'm up like 150k and a few misriahs, you never know what'll happen

[sterile tinsel]

It’s definitely the best price you could ever have for a controller like this. The xbox elite 2 does not at all stand up to something like it. And I even OWN the xbox elite 2

[lean latch]

Nope! Gyro binds to a basic mouse input and thus can be forced in any game

[hoary crow]

Oh it’s so worth it. Love my steam controller v1 so much but it’s on its last legs and you can tell it’s an over 10yo controller at this point 😭

[mellow pivot]

Well you can get it for cheaper since you can buy it with a steam balance . Just buy some stolen steam gift cards or buy CS skins from csfloat and then resell them on steam market for 5-10% profit after the commission

[sterile tinsel]

Hell yeah fuck you battleye you can exfil to hell

[mellow pivot]

Yeah I guess I have just ordered 85$ and 140$ mices so I am not the one to judge

[lean latch]

Titanfall 2 with gyro is an unbelievable experience since that game is very friendly to mixed inputs. I highly recommend checking out some of Nerrel's old videos on the topic to see what it can really do, it even has application in older games like the Metroid Prime titles on PrimeHack

[sterile tinsel]

I don’t judge either! I just absolutely love having customizability to my gear. Modern corporations are taking away versatility in favor of selling crapshoot designs

[lean latch]

The only dissapointment for me is that I wwish the triggers had trigger stops but it's really not that big of a deal in the grand scheme of things? The only thing I can think of where it becomes a problem is if you decide to emulate Splatoon and use it there, the melee weapons are so fucking ASS when you have to use an analogue trigger

[hoary crow]

I really wish they would have waited a month tho. It’s either controller or forza for me and I need controller to play new forza 😭😭😭

[lean latch]

RIGHT that is out in a month fuck, may get it for a friend as their early birthday gift

[hoary crow]

Bungie add cars to marton so I don’t have to pickup forza

[leaden kelp]

yeah, i have been finding outpost extremely fun for weeks, been my favorite pvp map of any game. I didnt have a stack i could run with the first couple weeks it was out and didnt wanna risk random fill, then the biotoxin release sounded brutal mixed with the fact I really didnt have anything good for close range fighting ie misriah or bubbles (I hadnt really focused those till this week, just enjoying the game otherwise), and then I delayed some more bc of what I was reading about the grenade spam, which now I understand that hellscape. Seems impossible to do anything now that I’ve progressed as far as I have despite not min maxing lmao. Losing my best loadouts to strategies I havent even witnessed before lvl 100

[mellow pivot]

True steam is goated .

[soft plank]

I have the worst luck with keys 😭😭😭😭

[sterile tinsel]

Steam is goated same reason with linux. I absolutely love steam

[lean latch]

I buy a lot of physical goods with the expectation they'll last forever and at worst I just sell them if I find an upgrade. I don't think anything short of the steam controller 3 is going to be replacing the new steam controller for me

[hoary crow]

I’ll take the $100 I was gonna give to Microsoft and use it to buy marton skins. I promise. (Probably wont spend it all before I have 100% shop completion tho)

[lean latch]

Done, they all control like the Halo 1 warthog and if it flips over you instantly die

[gritty lichen]

Here's the question, are you getting steamrolled every fight or is it closer to 50/50 and you just can't steamroll the lobby every time?

[sterile tinsel]

Yeah steam has kinda automatically topped what a controller can do. Unless microsoft or sony release a controller that’s the steam controller but with a built in girlfriend they can’t really hold up anymore

[mellow pivot]

Well right now in my experience you should go to control as soon as you get clearance 1 , then try to get some clearance in around control and once you hit lvl 2 you can hide in vents or corners , from this point you either do your vaults or rat other teams. If you see gold shields you run for your life in one of the sections and hide like a little rat you are. Works like a charm (for me ,but my teammates usually die)

[nimble canyon]

Thank you all for the birthday well wishes. I really appreciate it.

[hoary crow]

Happi birf

[sterile tinsel]

Here’s a vehicle but you can break your neck using it would be a really funny play from bungie. Like if they gave us a mongoose that we can deploy and redeploy at the caveat that if we hit our head we die. Would be awesome

[strong isle]

just did compiler with a random team that was asking for help killing it in cryo, 3 teams killing compiler by the end LOL shit was hilarious, shoutout Empathy and his crew

[lean latch]

I was gonna try and say that the other controllers do have value but with them STILL using petentiometers I just don't see it lol

[gritty lichen]

One thing I've noticed is that solos just in general is CONSIDERABLY harder than it used to be. There's way fewer terrible players and almost everyone is kitted. This doesn't mean the game is unplayable, it just means that I can't w key around the map and beam anyone I see with almost no chance of them fighting back like I used to, I have to actually use my brain and fight smart. If I try to play like I used to then I just get slammed, I have to play a bit slower and I can't expect to just outplay everyone I see.

[hoary crow]

I mean… it’s not hard if you’re handy with a soldering iron to fix that.

[sterile tinsel]

My xbox elite 2 can sleep safely knowing that i still just won’t use it because my xbox is outclassed by my pc oxo

[gritty lichen]

I'm loving that it's harder, fights are way more fun and matches are more tense, however if you are just getting steamrolled all the time then yeah that sucks

[dense stone]

we gotta extract the loot surplus value

[hoary crow]

I have TMRs in my ps5 and Xbox elite controllers 😅

[leaden kelp]

Steamrolled every fight. Like genuinely. Ive killed a single team in cryo over the 9 runs I did. 5 of those we got bum rushed instantly out of the first rooms and pushed deep into our spawns with double recons. 4 were lost to crazy gold teams. Before lvl100 my outpost runs usually consisted of 2-3 team wipes, maybe a couple exfils then a loss. Each of these cryo runs and even outpost now feels like ive run into an absolute brick wall of skill level and loadouts that me and my stack simply cant compete with. Kinda killing me inside atm lmao

[lean latch]

Eh, I do agree that repair isn't as hard as it looks but there's a ton of amazing options that come with TMR pre-installed. Totally fucking based if you're modding them in though, those modded controllers probably feel amazing

[gritty lichen]

What guns are you bringing? How are you playing the fights? What shells are you all on and what util do you have?

[sterile tinsel]

Level based matchmaking genuinely killed this game NGL

[soft plank]

What’s that?

[sterile tinsel]

We all have the right to repair after all 😏

[lean latch]

Magnets, how do they work??????????

[naive pine]

Control sticks that use magnets, very low chance of drift

[soft plank]

Gotcha thanks

[hoary crow]

Uses magnets to do weird quantum physics things to track thumb sticks instead of the ones that they normally use which rubs on itself internally and wears out.

[lean latch]

Fun fact: the Dreamcast had Hall Effect sticks when they released and it is basically impossible to find a pad that has stick drift. Like, you're more likely to find a pad with the plastic completely destroyed than stick drift.

[sand rampart]

Sega truly does what nintendont

[hoary crow]

TMR uses quantum physics. Hall effect detects variations in a magnetic field. Both use magnets

[naive pine]

We could all do without rubbing on ourselves internally and wearing ourselves out

[lean latch]

Sega may have shot themselves in the head with the Saturn in NA but the Dreamcast was so fucking cool in retrospect

[sand rampart]

Fucking joycons

[leaden kelp]

My loadouts are religiously bully or punch/m77 or ares, two bubbles, bunch of grenades. Recon/destroyer/triage. We arent trying to rush anyone, just want to even get a single exfil, but jesus the skill level just feels WILDLY different all of a sudden. Doesnt help none of us have found a misriah across hundreds of armory outpost runs, as that seems to be 70% of our deaths in cryo if we dont die to grenades before that

[lean latch]

There's so many weird titles on that console I really should check out at some point

[hoary crow]

Dreamcast holds a special place in my heart. It was where I started programming and wrote tons of home brew and was even interviewed in the Dreamcast mag for it

[naive pine]

Joycons were nintendos full acceptance of cheapness over solid design IMO. Wiimotes felt so solid, so bespoke

[lean latch]

RIGHT the homebrew scene for that console is super neat, that sounds rad ❤️

[sand rampart]

Wiimotes were amazing

[frail plume]

i don't know what matchmaking "sauce" they have, but i'll tell you 100% something for certain:
out of my 400 hours, 300 of them have been fill, the other 100 hours has been duos/duo-fill with Kay
and EVERY SINGLE TIME i get matched in Cryo with PC Players that are High Ranked and running Gold, the ENTIRE LOBBY is sweating bubbles across the floor
EVERY TIME without fail

[gritty lichen]

you NEED a shotgun, if you don't have one you can never play bubble fights and can't let anyone get remotely close to you. Make sure the recon has like 6 amps so they can take one after each ult to get it back up quick. If you just want to exfil, honestly just play ratty. Try not to be the first to engage, try to get third parties. How long are you usually in your spawn before going to control?

[sterile tinsel]

Everybody gives Euclid 10 rodeo mags

[frail plume]

in contrast, if i get a bunch of randoms in Blue (( which i then opt to sherpa through the entire thing )) the entire match is full of crybabies that run away from each other
this is excellent for sherpa'ing, i'm not complaining, but it's been a constancy that i've noticed

[leaden kelp]

I felt really really consistent from lvl50-100, maybe lose a loadout every few matches but it felt deserved/fair. Now i feel like im playing with the top percentile of players and I simply cannot compete. We’re lucky to exfil lately. Its really mind numbing

[sterile tinsel]

I still find time to set up my old family wii 💚

[hoary crow]

Scene is still active too. The Linux kernel just accepted two different commits related to the VMU and GD-ROM drive

[jaunty bobcat]

Correct, with TMR your joystick is both drifting and not drifting at the same time

[bronze idol]

whats the meta? i normally run thief/vandal/triage and an M77/WSTR, works alright most of the time

[naive pine]

And the fact that it runs GameCube games too?!? Hell yes

[lusty aurora]

Hmm, wallet value went from 120k to 520k over the weekend but vault dropped from 400k to 280k. Lost 3/5 misriah, gained 2 gold backpacks and 3 gold weapons. Successful cryo weekend?

[rich bone]

Wii U underrated, yall will never be as niche and quirky as me

[sand rampart]

I gotta see if we have any games left lmao my younger brother completely destroyed some of my shit back in the day

[sterile tinsel]

Yeah pretty much this. Like at a certain point people are gonna hit their fatigue limit

[gritty lichen]

m77/wstr is good, wstr is bad without stack overflow but with it's alright

[sterile tinsel]

I’ve gotten all my shit ever since i even first got it. Thankfully my family wasn’t destructive. We took heavy care of all of our hardware. I still have the wii sports disc carefully placed in a plastic bag

[bronze idol]

ah, yeah, i throw one on whenever i find it. im still only level 26, dont even have consistent blue/green gear yet lol

[gritty lichen]

Well if you needed money then that was great, I don't worry about vault value, I just see if I have the guns I like and attachments for them, currently I have tons of outlands bullies and misriahs, which is pretty much all I run so I'm happy

[sand rampart]

Wii sports and resort gave me so many hours of dicking around

[leaden kelp]

is wstr even worth after the nerf? Ive never found the mods that give it more than 2 shots, and ive been hearing that just does nothing to purple shields now without it. Cuz honestly idk how else to get a misriah without hoping cryo has it, but we cant even exfil lmao. We’ve been spending at most 10-12 minutes in our spawn just kinda taking our time (after a few failed rushing to control attempts) but its turning out the same, but in the sense that we are instead just getting rushed in our spawn by teams armed to the teeth with recon ults searching us down when ratting

[sterile tinsel]

I played so much bowling.

[sand rampart]

I miss those days 😔 time flies

[lusty aurora]

I just like having pretty weapons (got an omnipositor so that was dope) and having enough cash to not care about whatever I need to pick up in the moment.

[sterile tinsel]

Wstr can’t two tap purpled so you def want stack overflow. But it’s a solid shotgun if you don’t have any

And you want a blue stack overflow too

[sand rampart]

recon death squads holy

[lusty aurora]

WSTR is a great finisher or opener for knifing

[gritty lichen]

Wstr can still three tap so it's good enough if you have overflow, still considerably worse than it was though. You should try to spend 5 minutes MAX in your spawn area, I would rush to control then use recon ult to see where people are, if you can be the team rushing another team that's good. Once you kill one team you can just rat the rest of the game or exfil right away, you gotta know when to run and where to run if needed

[sterile tinsel]

For me i would use it with high handling to make it a great opener or finisher option. Especially with a bully

[gritty lichen]

Yeah I'm at like 480k right now and I'm happy with that, It's not millions but I can buy whatever I want without having any worries about it so I really don't care what my wallets at as long as I can do that

[pseudo fern]

the experience is getting worst and worst, i love the game but getting connect on US servers every single time i play makes the experience worst than ever. the game is dead in Europe ?

[lusty aurora]

I was never on the bully train tbh. My most successful kit is M77/WSTR, but trading the WSTR for someone's misriah at some point.

[pseudo fern]

at least i would like to be asked if i want to go on US servers

[vestal birch]

Yeah bc playing against a drugged up russian with csgo ego is better than playing against the american 13 year old whose life runs on 67 and roblox.

[gritty lichen]

I used to run that all the time, I just hate the m77 ironsights and the scope is really bad for closeish range so I use the bully instead

[sterile tinsel]

I was bully all the way when i started using it lmao. I love the bully now but I’m a freak and also love the repeater and magnum. I kinda wanna use the impact more too

[pseudo fern]

uh ?

[gritty lichen]

How do you like the magnum 😭

[sterile tinsel]

It’s satisfying as fuck to peakshoot with. Plus it one shots recruits and deals massive damage to uesc. So it’s a free recruit kill if you have circuit tracers. Basically a high chunk shot pistol

[leaden kelp]

is there a more consistent way to find stack overflow for wstr, or have i just been egregiously unlucky? With all the mods ive ever picked up I genuinely have not found it yet (even tried my best hunting it when it was still in its hayday)

[gritty lichen]

Yeah it is great against uesc, one of my favorite runs was my team trolling on outpost, I just had an ares and my two teammates had magnums, actually was a crazy successful run.

[hoary crow]

Bro. It’s a Bungie game. There’s no iPad kids here. We’re all unc in this server 😭

[sterile tinsel]

I would rook around perimeter and see if you can find one through folios tool carts and uesc

[mortal sequoia]

What's up marathon what's the player count

[radiant zealot]

guys the CE gold silencer is reslly fun but i wish they would add a seperate pistol ads sense

[gritty lichen]

You can buy it from traxus if you get it high enough, also every single m77 from traxus should have it, whether you're buying a green+ m77 or bartering for one, they should all have stack overflow

[hoary crow]

🚨Breaking News!
Half Life has only 782 players! Thats 97% down from their peak!

The game is dead and the developers have been completely silent about it.

Unless these devs ship a major update or at least explain why players left then recovery seems unlikely!!

[sterile tinsel]

Lesson: don’t sleep on the magnum 😛

[gritty lichen]

Unfortunately the magnums did very little and the ares did most of the work 😭

[vestal birch]

Maaaaan, let me pretend im young. These hairs are falling out and marathon aint helping 🥲

[hoary crow]

Whoops. Wrong copypasta

Here you go

went on a date today. she was not the one. didn’t understand when I pulled out the marathon steam charts. called me a “weirdo” for doing the important work of critical analysis on player counts every 30 minutes, sacrificing my time for the greater good. I bet she doesn’t even know I mod the /r/gaming subreddit at the same time. multitasking is nothing for me. but fine, leave.

[gritty lichen]

Now the issue is I can't aim, maybe if I could then It'd be a little better

[sterile tinsel]

Lesson: don’t sleep on magnum (carried by ares) 😭

[gritty lichen]

Ares+magnum sounds like a fun loadout

[lean latch]

That's fucking hilarious, also reminds me of the OG official linux version for the PS2 and PS3. I wonder if places are still using them for low-power compute tasks?

[sterile tinsel]

Yeah that’s mainly why I said it’s a good peakshooting gun. Mainly popping in and out of cover to reset the recoil. But like if you’re able to get the jump on someone with a magnum you can consistently 4 tap to the head a purple shield!

[dense stone]

my vault isnt big enough for all this loot. just like destiny

[hoary crow]

Probably not when a cell phone cpu is more powerful and efficient

Navy did have that supercomputer built out of ps3s for a while tho

[gritty lichen]

Maybe you can, it'll probably take me the whole mag to hit 4 body shots

[mortal sequoia]

So far it's probably minimally supporting windows, it's going to take a while for them to port to linux

[sterile tinsel]

I definitely can lol if i played more of course

[dense stone]

we all agree we need more vault space

[lusty aurora]

What's the game with the smallest player count you've continued to play online? Mines probably Guns of Icarus. Weekends were down to 30 people at one point

[bronze idol]

bruh, i walk into a room, completely quiet, next thing i know, grenadier cmdr, assualt cmdr, and like 3 ghosts are in the room with me

[mortal sequoia]

I would have said diablo 4 but it pumped with the new expansion to 50k

[sterile tinsel]

I disagree tbh. You need to get to a point where you’re able to sell and buy enhanced gear. So that way you can sell of the enhanced gear you can just buy back anyways

[dense stone]

marathon mobile when?

[gritty lichen]

More would be cool, the problem is no matter what it is we will still complain

[sterile tinsel]

Orange box tf2

[sullen lagoon]

Tomorrow

[dense stone]

complaining is a gamers job its feedback for devs

[gritty lichen]

No I'm saying no matter how large stash is, it'll eventually get full and we will complaing that it's too small

[lean latch]

Dang, I am all for using until it's dead but if a cellphone uses less electricity for the same task it makes sense. Would be a fun curios for a game store though to have their accounting systems run on literal game systems lmao

[sullen lagoon]

Technically yes however I'm not here to work I'm here to relax

[gritty lichen]

The only way people wouldn't complain is if it was way too big

[hoary crow]

It’s so weird to see people look at marathon sales and player counts as a failure. Have literally worked on games for AAA publishers where we celebrated hitting those kinda numbers months after launch. 😭

-# was a sonic game tho. Sega and Sony are not the same and that ip is so dead omg

[sterile tinsel]

Most of the feedback here isn’t even feedback

[bronze idol]

sonic and the black knight my beloved

[mortal sequoia]

Feedback is feedback

[sullen lagoon]

People will always complain and everyone should complain, worst thing is the complaining is stupid and discarded, best it point to a legitimate issue

[lean latch]

Also the cel processor is the single funniest piece of hardeware ever put in a console. Powerful enough that it could rival the early PS4 when you knew it well, but too weird for anyone to actually use it well

[sterile tinsel]

I think more people should be constructing their feedback in genuinely helpful ways rather than just making it as simple as possible

That way devs don’t have to read it then spend the next hour deciphering it

[sullen lagoon]

If you make a fucking youtube video about your complaining however I am going to rip out your bones out of your flesh one at a time for polluting further my feed

[dense stone]

customers always right otherwise you get concord

[mortal sequoia]

I tought they just run sentiment analysis over mountains of content and then just ask AI

[sullen lagoon]

Customers wanted Concord and then realized they were stupid

[hoary crow]

Only reason cell cpu could beat ps4 tho is because Sony put a mobile cpu from the weakest cpu vendor at the time into the console (ms did the same)

[leaden kelp]

If this goes on for a couple more days, prolly just gonna have to wait fo season reset, which pains me bc I genuinely just love hopping on and running these maps, the world is amazing and im addicted to the lore (had so much fun finishing all the contracts). This skill jump is brutal, I really hope they implement more heavy sbmm that isnt as influenced by level. I was totally cool with running into stacked purple teams before this skill jump, but now it just feels impossible for me and my team to have a successful exfil. Hell, the first gold team I ran into was on outpost yesterday when I brought my gold volley rifle for the first time, they were just sitting on the exfil fully camping it and demolished us lol. Felt so demoralizing

[dense stone]

nobody asked for concord

[sterile tinsel]

“Customers always right” is a stupid sentiment

[gritty lichen]

It's just wrong

[mortal sequoia]

What is the chat thinking today Siri?

[bronze idol]

holy hell, how do more people not play recon. her abilities are awesome

[noble needle]

game is in a death spiral

[wintry isle]

No one wanted concord

[sterile tinsel]

DE said it best. Sometimes players don’t even know what they want

[sullen lagoon]

Concord is the amalgamation of everything that was trending, everything that the customers were buying

[lusty aurora]

Marathon has this conundrum where the game loop isn't appealing and is too hard for most gamers, but the few still here love/hate/feel passionately about what we do have and will be spurned by any big changes or additions that dilutes what the game is in their head.

[dense stone]

if customers are not right then companys dont get to complain about not selling a product

[mortal sequoia]

Tough you can't force people to play your game I think

[gritty lichen]

Why is the customer always right?

[dense stone]

pretty sure the failure is a testament to the antithesis of your statement

[hoary crow]

🚨Breaking News!
Half Life has only 782 players! Thats 97% down from their peak!

The game is dead and the developers have been completely silent about it.

Unless these devs ship a major update or at least explain why players left then recovery seems unlikely!!

[wintry isle]

Game companies are chasing trends they do it every time

[sullen lagoon]

And then customers woke up and realized they were liking dogshit slop and mildly improved their tastes

[lusty aurora]

... in matters of taste." is the quote. The customer is mostly wrong.

[mortal sequoia]

Or are you suggesting players just need some coercement?

[dense stone]

customer sees product they like, customer buys, therefore customer is right

[hoary crow]

No it’s not. That’s a Mandela effect.

[noble needle]

half life is not a live service game. nice rage bait.

[wintry isle]

This is rage bait half life isnt a live service

[mortal sequoia]

Yeah next time you go buy something just be wrong and buy whatever the clerk is telling you to buy

[sterile tinsel]

No

[gritty lichen]

People will say they want something, but it's not what they really want. Look at dune awakening, that game was completely ruined and died because the devs did exactly what the players said they wanted.

[dense stone]

ah you forget my friend customers reserve the right to return products they decide they dont like

[sterile tinsel]

Same reason Destiny 2 is dead rn. There’s no reason to do anything because of everything being contradictory

[mortal sequoia]

What do people really want from marathon?

[hoary crow]

went on a date today. she was not the one. didn’t understand when I pulled out the marathon steam charts. called me a “weirdo” for doing the important work of critical analysis on player counts every 30 minutes, sacrificing my time for the greater good. I bet she doesn’t even know I mod the /r/gaming subreddit at the same time. multitasking is nothing for me. but fine, leave.

[sullen lagoon]

Nobody fucking know because everyone only speak for what they want

[jaunty crystal]

big team battle vehicules capture the flag

[dense stone]

all this saying marathon is a fun game

[sterile tinsel]

For the game to succeed ultimately

[wintry isle]

This is what seperates good devs from bad

[gritty lichen]

I'm not forgetting anything, the people said they wanted something, the game was changed to give them exactly what they said, then they realized hey, I didn't actually want this, and the game was ruined. You shouldn't always listen to the customer because they don't always want what they say.

[sullen lagoon]

Nvm I'm wrong this is what we actually want

[south cedar]

get into pinwheel wing as rook, team follows, dodge them on return to get WaSTeRed by a rook waiting, soul crushing rook behaviour

[grave veldt]

the love they didnt get during childhood

[lean latch]

I'm really not sure, I just want more people to play with but I don't know what other people need to make that happen I guess better quests and just...more stuff?

[dense stone]

again there was no mass collection of citizens calling for a company to create concord and its failure is a testament to this

[mortal sequoia]

It's going to need a lot more players for success to happen, that means people need to have fun, that means better loot, less spawns, more events and content, etc

[noble needle]

for the americans in the lfg who can't read OCE and still try to get in my groups to stop being brain damaged.

[hoary crow]

There’s no mass collection of anyone calling for ANY original IP to be made 🤦‍♂️

[gritty lichen]

People can be right about some things and wrong about others, and that's a completely different scenario. If nobody is asking for a product and you make it, of course it'll fail. If people are asking you to change a product, that doesn't mean you should always change it to what they say they want

[cloud wind]

I am looking for some people to play with i am new to ask but I said there no harm in trying

[sterile tinsel]

Imo, f2p and a pve mode are a bad play. Bungie is fine where we’re at rn and needs to focus on fixing squad fill. Adjusting the armory. Adjusting early game weaponry. Changing off of level based matchmaking to something else.

All of these changes would ideally help players in the early game compete against players in mid to late game and overall improve their access to the game

[calm solar]

she couldnt possibly understand the value of my daily anti marathon ai art posts on the steam charts megathread

[cloud wind]

I also stream

[dense stone]

nobody asked for halo to be made and it was a massive global success. an example to prove my point

[gritty lichen]

There's gotta be some way to make the game significantly less punishing for newer players without really changing the game much, lots of people quit because it's just way too hard at the start for casuals

[hoary crow]

So devs should give up making original games all together based on this logic. Hope you love COD 67 because that’s what you’re over here arguing for.

[grave veldt]

tbh games are almost all manufactured demand. people didnt think they needed gta 3 until it came out

[dense stone]

no i think halo is a great example of creative works becoming successful

[noble needle]

lets be honest they have hundreds of people at that company who get paid to make this game, none of your suggestions matter. if the fix was as easy as something you or i could come up with it would not work or they would have done it already.

[sterile tinsel]

Rn the carri event is perfect. If anything standard contracts should reward a lot more salvage. And we could have trading up for salvage as well with steep prices. Rewarding time investment will help retain players

[hoary crow]

Bro. That is an ip older than half the people in this chat

[gritty lichen]

You just said nobody asked for concord so it's failure is a testament to you being right, and nobody asking for halo and it being succesful also proves your point???? hello????

[sullen lagoon]

Halo is just marathon with the serial numbers filed off btw, completely unrelated to this conversation just wanted to say that

[dense stone]

still applies even if the industry has been taken over by corpos

[hoary crow]

Other way around. Halo was always the cheap marton knock off with worse lore.

[mortal sequoia]

Halo is temu marathon?

[dense stone]

nobody bought concord = failure, people buy halo = success. i dont see where im wrong

[sullen lagoon]

And marathon is temu Gnop!

[gritty lichen]

They should remove the in one run part of every single contract if possible. So many casuals that love doing the quests quit them because they'll be stuck on one like that for so long and they get frustrated at it

[calm solar]

halo is temu marathon but marathon is roblox destiny... somehow... my name is griftingyoutuber2078 and i make content of value

[hoary crow]

Always was. Og Halo lore is 90% recycled marathon lore

They even kept Traxus in both 😭

[gritty lichen]

How does that relate to the customer always being right?

[sterile tinsel]

Honestly? I disagree and think they should remove exfil requirements for all regular non priorities. They kill my mood to play

[gritty lichen]

Or yeah just removing the exfil part of the quest, just something to make the quests a bit easier

[mortal sequoia]

Most of the videos on YouTube on marathon is how bad it sucks and why I quit and they have thousand views and some gameplay videos have like 50, while guide tutorial you've videos have 100

[winged pendant]

The game throws gear at you left and right though even level 10 I'm deleting gear from constant level up rewards and quest completions. Also Bungie needs to make people aware they NEED to be playing rook to just get money and gear and materials

[sterile tinsel]

Mhm. They’re just small quests but if players complete them that should be one of their main drives. Rn the primary focus on exfilling being the way to progress with no silent exfil ever is killing people for real

[dense stone]

if you are a company you want customers to buy your product? yes? right? therefore you have to admit the customer's preference is right when they buy your product because initially a customer deciding on buying the product in the first place determines your success

[grave veldt]

i barely ever played rook and I'm doing ok so far (lvl 58 rn)

[mortal sequoia]

Depends if you're for profit. And if the profit comes from customers, it might come from some corporate entity

[mortal seal]

Halo ain’t been successful since halo reach

[gritty lichen]

Well yes you have to create something that has appeal to people if you want to sell it, however if people ask you to change your product should you always change it to what they ask?

[sullen lagoon]

I think it's okay for priority contract to be both "in a single run" type and requiring exfil if they are AFTER the threshold that give you the priority access free stuff of the faction

[calm solar]

most the videos ive seen are egregious grifter posts with horrid ai thumbnails complaining ab the art style being "gay" and all the comments being "concord 3"

[dense stone]

customers always right is a philosphy to prioritize customer satisfaction, (concord didnt deliver), build trust, (concord didnt deliver), and encourage repeat business by treating complaints seriously, (concord didnt deliver)

[mortal seal]

Funniest part is u watch the gameplay and understand why they hate the game so much, I would too if I couldn’t aim

[gritty lichen]

It does throw lots of bad gear at the start, nothing very good. If you complete your contracts then you can get tons of good gear for free, however the contracts are just too hard for lots of people, making those easier would help people get more gear and want to play more

[grave veldt]

the concord 3 crowd 😭

[calm solar]

that fucking ninja clip dude 😭

[mortal seal]

There’s worse clips, smash will always be number 1

[dense stone]

yes i know

[sullen lagoon]

Customer is always right as a philosophy just result in everything being the same to appeal to the largest audience

[gritty lichen]

Send it I wanna see #📽️run-clips

[mortal sequoia]

Alternatively you wouldn't be a customer

[sullen lagoon]

And result in everyone not being in that majority being left with jackshit

[mortal seal]

It was on release so give me 10 minutes

[gritty lichen]

Thanks goat 🙏

[grave veldt]

i aim bad sometimes but this game has aim assist even with kb+m you're bound to hit some shots right?

[cold stump]

anyone else feel like there's been more casual players in the game? its never been this chill

[hardy lantern]

That's only half the phrase. It's "the customer is always right in matters of taste"

[dense stone]

just dont spend 250 million on development of a video game that is super niche. the fact is concord failed.

[calm solar]

i think the game is undeniably bleeding players and theres a place and need for conversation about why that is but most ppsts are just "haha look guys concord 3 i was right!!!!!" and thats really annoying and literally only done in bad faith

[sullen lagoon]

The original phrase is meaningless and devoid of importance since it's been forgotten and ignored

[hardy lantern]

Everyone sweaty just brainrotting on cryo until it closes.

[gritty lichen]

It's got bullet magnetism so not quite the same as aim assist, it's still quite generous though and makes aiming well a lot easier

[dense stone]

wrong the initial phrase is a blueprint for a successful business since the economy and free trade was established

[sullen lagoon]

Yeah okay shareholder

[bronze idol]

people are dumb. tell me, why my team decided to push another team, holed up in the second floor of a small building, from an open field.

[fervent vine]

💊

[mortal sequoia]

Somebody read the wealth of nations

[grave veldt]

i got a gold armor guy in my outpost lobby lol

[dense stone]

i consider myself a discord philosopher hear to share my immense wisdom

[grave veldt]

orthodox economy is basically all bs

[calm solar]

concord wasnt niche? it was a hero shooter those were THE game at the time of its development and have proven to be successful since, it just sucked and had no charm

[hardy lantern]

Because gear is just a crutch for bad people or something along the lines what my french sensei said before being cut down by purpies.

[bronze idol]

were on dire marsh bro, just green and the very rare blue. im level 26

[dense stone]

the definition of niche

[fervent vine]

🍭

[calm solar]

am i a monster for running purps and 500 bullets in a bully on perimiter

[hardy lantern]

For me there is always at least 2 purple teams in darsh. We live in different hoods.

[jagged igloo]

gear economy so fricked up that we no longer get blue shield demons.

[dense stone]

i dont know why you are defending concord when the fact is it failed lol

[bronze idol]

ive never encountered them thankfully

[grave veldt]

nah theres a lot of people doing stuff like this lol

[calm solar]

where did i defend it at all??????? i said it sucked and had no charm???

[dense stone]

concord is shutdown and you cant buy it. its over my friend

[sullen lagoon]

The fact concord has failed is trivially true and you used it to come to idiotic conclusions

[mortal sequoia]

I think the idea was to bring a niche gameplay mainstream and profit

[hardy lantern]

I see purple kill machines a lot, out on peri, darsh, outpost and in the mirror.

[calm solar]

this guys crazy and literally talking to himself

[dense stone]

its not trivial at all its literally unbuyable, company has disbanded and massive layoffs, you cant play it

[sullen lagoon]

No one told you concord succeeded, they told you your reasoning was utter garbage

[cyan axle]

more like illiterate and/or blind lmfao

[mortal seal]

Sent

[calm solar]

its one of the megathread schizos dont waste your energy

[grave veldt]

people cheering on games failing in general is really cynical tbh. theres things I dont like about the game industry but devs who make a game that underperforms getting all their work thrown out instead of possibly iterated upon isnt a good part of it at all

[bronze idol]

i do that sometimes, ill load in and jus clear uesc for a bit then extract lol

[cyan axle]

give a monkey a typewriter etc etc

[dense stone]

it devolves into pride

[sullen lagoon]

Say the dude incapable of admitting he's saying nonsense

[scarlet horizon]

internet moment

[mortal seal]

I mean to say the customer is always right can factually be proven wrong on this game alone by adding more teams to marsh

[hardy lantern]

I mainly do it for farming the warden on perimeter but he has like 30% to appear. People tell me warden and events spawn at a higher rate in ranked maybe I would do better playing that mode.

[dense stone]

its just counter productive, no matter how you view the world, the fact is the customer is always right is both practically and philosophically applicable to any business

[bronze idol]

yeah, same here. never done ranked tho

[mortal seal]

Yes but are they actually always right? No it’s just to placate people to maximise profits so they come back and buy the product again

[mortal sequoia]

No we want to argue with customers and prove them wrong and spit on them that will show them

[ripe blade]

asian cryo is full of queue sync

[hardy lantern]

If that was the case then we would already have pve only mode

[sterile tinsel]

Customer is always absolutely valid to yell and scream at our employees

[hoary crow]

Dudes a ‘phobe. Why am I in no way fucking surprised.

[zinc vector]

American servers full of literal cheeseburger

[hardy lantern]

Sending the liquidator squads. For the glory of nucal

[bronze idol]

im eating a double cheeseburger rn

[sterile tinsel]

You say facts like a delusional couch beer drinker

[sullen lagoon]

Cool, serve no purpose to anyone beyond the shareholders

[mortal sequoia]

What's a delusional couch beer drinker?

[sterile tinsel]

American, specifically of the delusional variety (facts over feelings bullshit)

[mortal seal]

Americans lmao

[hardy lantern]

It's a descriptive title.

[bronze idol]

i actualy dont drink. does that make me unamerican

[scarlet horizon]

its a cube

[sterile tinsel]

Makes you canadian

[sullen lagoon]

Yes, ICE is coming to break your knees unfortunately

[hardy lantern]

That makes you a liberal.

[bronze idol]

HA, im in the military, im immune to ICE. im also white

[sterile tinsel]

this makes me irrationally angry and therefore i win this argument with fscts and llogics

[solid yew]

what a horrible time to open discord. jfc

[mortal sequoia]

You people are really obsessed with labeling and divide and conquer schemes

[hardy lantern]

Is ice the irl arachne?

[bronze idol]

fuck, not a liberal

[hoary crow]

But unexpected couch beer is best beer. 😭 just found the can right between the cushions

[scarlet horizon]

i must divide and conquer what can i say

[mortal seal]

People will say that they think there’s too many extraction shooters and ask for BR 😭😭😭😭

[sterile tinsel]

You sound like a good beer drinker so you shall sit on the couch safely (no thumb tacs)

[bronze idol]

lemme get uhhh... an extracion shooter..... in the form of a battle royale

[hardy lantern]

Pokemon extraction shooter where you kidnap other players as loot.

[solid yew]

so it was... warm?

[sterile tinsel]

Wait doesn’t that mean it’s not cold..?

[iron lagoon]

guys marathon the best

[mortal seal]

Lets check in on Redsec see how that’s going

[scarlet horizon]

which marathon

[hoary crow]

Isn’t cold beer an American thing?

[mortal sequoia]

So how to get marathon to pump and people to play it more? Culture warring is a net negative, and in the end if the population crashes, one side of the culture war will win

[sterile tinsel]

I have no clue but i could never drink a warm beer personally

[solid yew]

i'm not drinking piss warm beer and i never set foot on the continent

[grave veldt]

the one where you run for a lot of miles

[hidden jay]

Hello! Not sure where to ask, but are the Brook Wingman converters OK for Marathon on PS5, or are those against the TOS?

[scarlet horizon]

i love marathon infinity bro

[mortal sequoia]

Is the culture war booze vs meds?

[hardy lantern]

Giving people a free trial version of the game with linited features so they could experience the gameplay but the majority of the content is not accessable.

[hoary crow]

Even better is when it’s piss labeled as beer like a natty ice $5 30 pack 🤣

[grave veldt]

i gotta actually play the original trilogy i played 1 a bit in 2020

[scarlet horizon]

its free!!!!

[grave veldt]

i know, it was free in 2020 already

[bronze idol]

i think it would be cool if instead of doing ALL the factions, you could pick one and ally with them, to actually help with that one factions goals

[halcyon ether]

I came back here after a month to see how Concord 3 is holding up

[hoary crow]

Or hams. That shit is even cheaper and way worse and it’s impossible to drink that shit without feeling like an alcoholic 🤣

[bronze idol]

the only drink i need is a few shots of Spirytus, and im set for the night

[hoary crow]

went on a date today. she was not the one. didn’t understand when I pulled out the marathon steam charts. called me a “weirdo” for doing the important work of critical analysis on player counts every 30 minutes, sacrificing my time for the greater good. I bet she doesn’t even know I mod the /r/gaming subreddit at the same time. multitasking is nothing for me. but fine, leave.

[sterile tinsel]

#🗣marathon-general-chat message

[hardy lantern]

Cyac your literal owner wouldn't allow that. Plus picking a side would make you an asset of said faction. Nucal and Traxus has a non aggression pact with the uesc.

[bronze idol]

ah, yeah, thats fair. wait, really? i need to do a deeper dive into the lore

[hoary crow]

They don’t own you. That’s slavery. They do own all the backups and if you think about leaving ONI will delete all the memories of your wife and kids but that’s totally different

[sterile tinsel]

I’d let Nona sit on me tbh

[scarlet horizon]

bro wtf man

[hardy lantern]

Also arachne only accepts people into the fold when they purge themselves of all their memories because that's embracing the gift of silence but the grounding exercise cyac gives you bestows fake memories on you preventing you from fully receiving the gift.

[hollow cosmos]

Ya

[sterile tinsel]

Like it’s not weird that people want vandal feet pics

[scarlet horizon]

its not but that shit is man

[hoary crow]

I’d sit on nonas worm 😏

[sterile tinsel]

Double standards are crazy as fuck

[cyan axle]

people want pics of jordans?

[scarlet horizon]

human feet vs literal silk worm wormality

[sullen lagoon]

If you quit ONI will accidentally wipe the hard drive you're stored on while making space to store more cat pictures

[sterile tinsel]

And? Your personal distaste doesn’t overwrite my personal favor

[hollow cosmos]

In first person plz

[sterile tinsel]

Ok i think i activated a sleeper agent sorry gang (but they are correct)

[desert helm]

when i extract with a Superior Template key purple does it become puprple key?

[sterile tinsel]

Yes. It also might turn into a prestige gold key too

[desert helm]

@sterile tinsel yes but i dont see the key

[hardy lantern]

Nona would use vials of acid to burn lines into you while wearing black leather.

[sterile tinsel]

If you went down but self revived and exfilled it got destroyed

[desert helm]

i cant believe it

[fierce thunder]

flopathon 💪😭🔥

[desert helm]

yes i went down last minute by a rook and i self revived

[leaden spoke]

Welcome to Marathon, Runn---- er, Sufferer

[sterile tinsel]

Im so sorry lmao. The system sucks

[desert helm]

well it was my first template i guess i have to reead better lol

[sterile tinsel]

Better luck next time my friend!!!

[hardy lantern]

Surffah the UESC commanda riding a sick wave but he has left his lunch un attended. Go and crash his shit in a single run.

[desert helm]

if i match solo do i get into the match by 100% other solo players?

[hardy lantern]

Yes

[dusk anvil]

Got to compiler with randoms and died AMA

[leaden spoke]

Solos is a different experience, honestly.

Trios plays like Apex/Warzone where it's "shoot on sight", but Solos has a really good mix of friendly interactions + survival horror experience

[desert helm]

i go do solo key lets go

[dark jasper]

i wish the ranked grind wasnt so long

[leaden spoke]

also, since you're new here, don't let anyone tell you otherwise:

Trios is a battle royale - play it for lobby wipes. Anything else is suicide.

[hardy lantern]

Remember if smell malboro an assassin is nearby.

[desert helm]

@hardy lantern I go in as an assassin i bring bubble claymores nades and scanner you place on floor i ll place everything first and then open key lol

[hoary crow]

😏

[hoary crow]

Closest to a friendly interaction in solo I’ve had is a runner screaming wait while I was already skinning them in the finisher animation

[cosmic iris]

played my first cryo today thanks to free cryo kit, damn map is fun, but I wish my fps didnt drop to 40-50 lol

[tough crater]

real, my cpu is throttling my rig

[jaunty crystal]

gotta get that x3d

[cosmic iris]

I missed the moment to switch to AM5, so I'm fckd here lmao

[tough crater]

real actually, that was what i was planning on, have a r5 7600x atm

[jaunty crystal]

they are re-releasing 5800x3d cus no ones buying cpus due to ddr5 prices

[dark jasper]

why do some ppl drop their key templates or put them in crates is there smth im missing?

[solid yew]

if they get downed the templates don't break

[jaunty crystal]

if you're down in trio you still can get your keys if you get revived

[hoary crow]

Reminds me. I have a 5800x3d 64gb ram RTX3080 system I need to get off my ass and try to sell 😭

[cosmic iris]

yeah heard that, but it was rumors with different info floating around, so just gotta wait until it reaches stores

[dark jasper]

gotcha so then they come back and get them towards the end?

[tawdry obsidian]

really starting to feel the queue especially in solos

[desert helm]

i have a key tunnels i cant find where it is

[timid rain]

Perimeter or Outpost?

[desert helm]

perimeter

[jaunty crystal]

between station and relay underground tubes

[desert helm]

How do i go there i cant find the way i m inside tunnels

[jaunty crystal]

open your map there is now a nav point that shows your key room

[stone marlin]

is there a way to get refound on a stuff lost because of a 6man stack ? First I get to cryo on a distant serv I run on 3 ms but got 100ms in game for no reason, but ok. then get wiped by a 6 man team with no local coms

[dusky locust]

No.

[desert helm]

i go outside tunnel around i guess

[solid yew]

I'd be way too lazy to claim back lost loot, no matter what it is

[limber raft]

Good morning, everyone!

[solid yew]

top of the morning, sobek

[limber raft]

How’s Marathon treating everyone?

[solid yew]

I completed 2 vaults last night 📈

[gritty lichen]

No you definitely wouldn’t 😭

[solid yew]

weird claim lol

[mellow pivot]

I did buy 7800x3d

[gritty lichen]

Would you really not claim a full gold kit?

[bronze idol]

fuck AI, im stuck at fucking 16 gb beduace of ram prices

[rancid vector]

I hope everyone is happy they told all the playerbase to go back to Arc. They did and now the game is in a death spiral

[solid yew]

if it means reaching out to customer service or something like that? hell no

[winged pendant]

Definitely am happier without people crying about being shot in the shooter game yes

[gritty lichen]

Oh well yeah if it was a huge process then that makes sense, I was thinking of something more like arcs system

[jaunty crystal]

you will buy a smart monitor with geforce NOW and you will love it

[solid yew]

oh no i'd definitely redeem all of that haha

[uneven escarp]

Everyone will be back with new content, faster progression

[limber raft]

Marathon will have brighter days. Not that that Marathon is “right”, it’s just not “Right Now”.

[gritty lichen]

If I had to go through customer service then I’m completely with you, I’m not doing all that 😭🙏

[bronze idol]

bruh, im running a 4070TI with a relativly decent moniter, and i cant even put shaders on minecraft becuase my ram is so fucking low. joking, but still what the fuck bro.

[rancid vector]

A map condition they showed off before the game released isnt bringing players back

[solid yew]

i mean, if people don't enjoy Marathon, why shouldn't they go play other games? lol

[uneven escarp]

We will see 🙂

[desert helm]

got 2 gold mods

[rancid vector]

they did hence why the game is losing 20% of its playerbase every week

[uneven escarp]

People just love the drama. Everyone I know irl that shits on the game hasn’t even given it an hour of playtime. My anecdotal experience

[jaunty crystal]

theres like 144m players on roblox and you can play that on a potato while AAA games and consoles prices rises every 3 months, its like were the last gen of core gamers

[solid yew]

"you guys made people play games they enjoy! GOOD JOB! THANKS MARATHON DISCORD!"

[gritty lichen]

Out of a blue???

[uneven escarp]

Everyone loves to watch a hero fall

[mellow pivot]

💀

[winged pendant]

Very normal for every extraction shooter

[desert helm]

yes i got the Vital intel for stryder and circuit lmg shield

[limber raft]

In 2015 Post launch of one of the worst launches in gaming history, Rainbow 6 Siege had 500 concurrent players, lost dev support and was pronounced DEAD…. in 2026 R6S is one of the most played games in the world. Why? Because the community didn’t give up on the game.

[serene ibex]

congratulate me for the first time I died to a party of 6 on cryo

[gritty lichen]

Bro I don’t get anything gold out of purple >50% of the time, that’s wild, hopefully those serve you well!

[solid yew]

you're a grown up now

[uneven escarp]

Do you have anything better to be doing, like enjoying other discords or games you like? Exactly. You love the drama soap op ahh

[woven stump]

Idrc about loadout value for cryo I would much rather require some shield requirement thoiugh why tf does my teammate have no shield on rn 😭

[olive oracle]

Hey yall, just a reminder, please keep the discussions civil. No need to call each other names or put each other down. Thanks

[mellow pivot]

Congratulations 🎉

[solid yew]

i wish bungie would pay me enough to care about player numbers

[leaden spoke]

Marathon should have just been a Roblox mod

[desert helm]

i need to find stryder

[mellow pivot]

I would let Vandal put me down 😍

[limber raft]

Big Salute, Dante!!

[uneven escarp]

I, for one, love the game. And will see it through till the end

[hoary crow]

Good morning Dante. I swear this is like a daily ritual for you by now

[desert helm]

i have never found gold shield or implants so far i have faced people yes killed them but randos snatched it all

[mellow pivot]

Vital Intel is a useless gold mode no ?

[limber raft]

Just loot weapon cabinets on Outpost

[gritty lichen]

They are decently common in arms lockers in pinwheel

[jaunty crystal]

all games should be a roblox mod at this point

[mellow pivot]

Roblox is a Minecraft mod

[leaden spoke]

well it would definitely give the anime pfp guys in here everything they want

[winged pendant]

Wordle 1779 3/6

⬜🟩⬜⬜⬜
🟨🟩⬜⬜🟩
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

[desert helm]

they slaughter me in pinwheel

[mellow pivot]

You know that you can build a wireless network inside Minecraft ?

[jaunty crystal]

im not degen enough to know what this means

[tawny plover]

Wordle 1779 4/6*

⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛
⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛
⬛🟩⬛⬛🟩
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

[winged pendant]

Rook pinwheel

[solid yew]

find yourself a circuit breaker 📈 📈

[desert helm]

i am going another blue key tunnel perimeter lets go

[leaden spoke]

that's good, honestly

[left yew]

Solo pinwheel

[limber raft]

You like the CB? I tried it, it’s okay… but I’m not a SG type of guy anyways

[winged pendant]

Circuit breaker is best played on a corner using the charge up appropriately and, it has much greater range than the other shotguns so use that to advantage as well

[solid yew]

At least with the gold mod it catches 10/10 people by surprise, feels great in cryo

[desert helm]

i have exfiled 1 time so far in cryo thats a hard map

[limber raft]

Idk I’m loving the Twintap fr

[solid yew]

Same, it's what the hardline should've been lol

[winged pendant]

It gets better the more you play it biggest advice is rotate around the outside as much as you can, and learn to run away from fights if you don't have advantage/don't pick bad fights in condensed areas you can't move or rotate in

[winged pendant]

Hardline with blue or above mods is very good actually

[solid yew]

took me ages to exfil for the first time too, but it gets easier pretty quickly once you learn the flow of the map. If you don't get sandwiched you basically always have an easy way to retreat too

[solid yew]

definitely! picked up the unique blue one yesterday and that was fun too. but i'd trade it for the twintap anytime :D

[desert helm]

i have hard time to fine screens to get clearance 2 and by the time i do people find me at spawn

[winged pendant]

Being fast is very important

[hearty sage]

every now again I try a random fill run. how can people deal with this?

[cold stump]

infil with a gold key and have a 4 team brawl at algae ponds that lasts for 20 minutes -_-

[solid yew]

don't forget you can always go to control with clearance 1, good to learn the map too and you take the space before other teams

[desert helm]

what to do in control

[solid yew]

kill bots/loot containers for more security tags, ambush other teams who enter after you, then go for other 'wings' as soon as you hit 2

[neon jolt]

Damn i forgot to come by yesterday T_T.
DAY 1 (Again x2) OF ASKING FOR A SHOOTING RANGE.
Good Morning Everyone.
See You Tomorrow!

[winged pendant]

By keeping your chin up and going again, every now and again you'll get godlike fill teams

[olive oracle]

Hi! If you have any feedback for the game, please post it in the #1478943000792006768 or #1478943087957905550 channels.

[solid yew]

if other teams are faster than you, you can also sneak past them in control and enter their wing; there you can find more monitors an bots to up your clearance

[winged pendant]

Tags and monitors spawn around in it, listen for other teams, rotate to another wing

And I said it last night but I'll say it again claymores are really strong on cryo, can completely fuck a team that pushes too hard or stop their push completely if they hit one and they get nervous about chasing

[solid yew]

people kind of forget these exist on there :D

[winged pendant]

More than once plopped a couple down and had gold shield guys just sprint straight into them lol

[placid elbow]

Holy crap. Crashing mid run is one thing but being unable to re-connect ASAP coz Sony decided to make their splash screens unskippable is another type of bullshit

[verbal junco]

wth is this rook on rook violence on a sunday, smh

[leaden spoke]

poorly socialized players

[magic sapphire]

Starting to shutdown/scale back the backend clusters running the services - reducing core count to reduce running costs - as player counts continue to plummet - who knows

[wheat berry]

can we get our gear back when we face a 6/9 man team up on cryo or is my gear just gone into oblivion

[magic sapphire]

oblivion

[wheat berry]

so happy to be grinding all week for cheaters to take everything i have *

[mortal sequoia]

YouTube trying to get me to run a sub 3 hour marathon after watching a marathon video

[south cedar]

is teaming up cheats now

[magic sapphire]

Sub 3 hour marathon - thats super hard work to achieve

[violet ledge]

Coevolution 4/5 irl

[desert helm]

@verbal junco BRO YOU SCARED ME

[leaden spoke]

Chating isn't against the terms of service for streamers

[verbal junco]

you are SO going to hell!!!!

[wheat berry]

Yes it is when people obviously team queue and not team up

[tight spade]

Its been against tos for years

[verbal junco]

and yes, the rook jumpscares are real

[solid yew]

anyone down to 12 stack rn

[south cedar]

oh if they queue at the same time for the purpose of it, I get it

[kindred salmon]

Did we have fun in the fridge this weekend?

[tight spade]

Nah i have a life and some honor

[desert helm]

@verbal junco i rememebr you name from discord nand you sneak up on me bro while looting 4 bodies?>

[wheat berry]

yes its a very reccurent problem in cryo and its been there for a month at least without bungie adressing it, i know people who wont go on cryo for this reason only

[tight spade]

Always fun when you recon ping and see 6 purple shields in one room not fighting or using prox.

[solid yew]

i traded my honor for a biolens seed, horrible barter

[wheat berry]

you just know you are fucked

[tawny plover]

i once teamed with another rook in pinwheel who went to drone wing while i stayed in the center, then mistook a new hostile rook as the friendly and died

[tight spade]

See, thats when you swap to emotional warfare. And start bullying them

[wheat berry]

haha true oi should try that

[solid yew]

what opening line would you recommend

[tight spade]

Your mother smells of elderberries and your father was a hamster

[solid yew]

jfc

[winged pendant]

Level 165 play tons of cryo never seen it once people overblowing it big time cause the hate campaign on the game must go on

[solid yew]

i once got finished by a guy larping as a truffle pig in prox chat and i still haven't recovered

[verbal junco]

i was observing you!

[hardy lantern]

Today I had tick milk and liquid cheeseburger then I did some bideo games.

[tight spade]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Marathon/comments/1t2l0w2/6_man_cheaters_in_cryo/ Just check reddit. But sure just cause its never happened to you means it doesnt exist

[rough ocean]

Damn all casuals really did left this game, but Bungie wanted a hardcore game so they knew this and this game is exactly where it want to be:)

[desert helm]

@verbal junco what am i ? a dinosaur? lol bro

[winged pendant]

And yes I understand it obviously IS happening because we see the clips but it also obviously ISNT as prevalent as people claim if someone who plays as much as me hasn't run into it once. When people are saying "well that's the meta and it happens almost every game" it's just not true at all

[hardy lantern]

I don't think it was a larp. I am afraid you met a belgian.

[grave veldt]

damnnn evangelion 3.0+1.0 rei is mad as hell

[tight spade]

Ngl more spots in cryo should be less campable. With how quick grenades and shotguns kill having to go through one door after killing a warden is a pain.

[wheat berry]

well it happened to me at least 5 times, i guess people can be unlucky or lucky... They are not overblowing it i personally love the game. This problem needs to be adressed asap cuz even if its a rare occurence it just shouldnt not happen at all. when it happens to you you have like 2% chance of winning the fight and it feels unfair and useless to even queue back to the map... It will kil l the map eventually and make people leave the game

[fallen echo]

Level 73, played my first 2 cryo runs first time today since the second week of cryo and on the second game we got hit with a 6 man spawn rush

[digital olive]

is it just me or matchmaking feels longer for dire marsh sponsored

[grave veldt]

i havent run into a 6 team but im late 50s level wise

[magic sapphire]

Bungie seems to be directed by sweat extremists ...I am not sure otherwise how they could have created this accidentally - they set out to serve this extreme edge of the player base for some reason .

[earnest birch]

Last night every lobby was a war zone for me, no matter what map I picked

[solid yew]

[ Eliminate 7 runners. ]

[urban crown]

Burgers please come back 😭

[hardy lantern]

This 6 man thing has be overblown. I played so many cryo games and never encountered it. At this point I am starting to think people cope about getting 3rd partied by calling it a 6 man.

[fallen echo]

damn, I should have been running that contract it would have fixed everything

[grave veldt]

"sweat extremists" is funny

[solid yew]

i believe in you champ

[lilac lodge]

I uninstalled marathon for my bday weekend and I’m ngl I felt at peace. 💔🥀

[grave robin]

I just went through all of Bungie Code of Conduct, Community Standards and Marathon Code of Conduct and i couldn't find anywhere that specified anything against teaming up outside of proxy chat. Closest thing I could find was this 6.Ruining the player experience and normal gameplay with hacks, cheats, or submitting false reports. I don't think it's a good thing but I couldn't find anything in the rules about it
~~Sources: https://www.bungie.net/7/en/Legal/codeofconduct, https://www.bungie.net/7/en/Legal/codeofconduct#bnetcode, https://safety.bungie.net/hc/en-us/articles/46816246704404-Bungie-Code-of-Conduct-and-Expanded-Definitions~~
I was wrong.

[karmic acorn]

yo if im a way higher level than you, I suggest something, maybe listen and not be ignorant . I can tell that whatever youre about to have us do is a death sentence.

[cold stump]

spammed cryo and key rooms didnt make any progress goty 🥹

[eager forum]

Some people are really ungrateful in this game. I kill an assassin let him revive in front of me, guess what he does immediately? He attacks me

[solid yew]

I AM THE DRIVER

[lilac lodge]

Got ratted at compiler entrance 3 times this weekend. I might never come back

[leaden spoke]

The other half of this issue is the teaming thing is something big streamer accounts are doing, and Bungie will absolutely not ban streamers for this stuff

[hardy lantern]

Purple keys are gambling. Get the gold.

[cold stump]

lol skill issue

[grave robin]

Maybe this. 5.Win trading.

[coral cloak]

Organic teaming in-raid isn’t cheating (part of the prox chat dynamic), but coordinating before playing / trying to game the match making is.

[lilac lodge]

They waited at lab elevator with 19 frag grenades after they saw the green juice animation 😭😭

[leaden spoke]

It's only cheating if regular players do it - streamers get a pass

[grave veldt]

24h mute incoming

[grave robin]

It isn't tho. According to Bungie's rules. Unless I missed it somewhere

[magic sapphire]

Streamers are a virus

[hardy lantern]

Guys I got kidnapped by a 15 man team in cryo and they made me drink cheeseburgers until I got a tummy ache.

[tight spade]

Moving forward, intentionally manipulating matchmaking to gain an unfair advantage, 
whether using smurf accounts or external third-party tools, will be a bannable offense. 
This includes attempts to bypass any of our matchmaking systems, including Outlier 
Protection, Ranked, and Fireteam-Based matchmaking.``` I mean this was added to Destiny tos 2 years ago.

[grave robin]

i did miss this. They do mention that their Code of Conducts over lap between games. Thank you

[leaden spoke]

the lesson to be learned here is:

If you want to win in Marathon, be a streamer

[grave veldt]

and they were all streamers

[fallen echo]

well it was steerage so maybe, the first team approached from cargo so we started nading them out and they rotated north along the corridor at the top of the map, but then a second team came from the direct opposite entrance south at the exact same time from the center

[hardy lantern]

Yes

[tight spade]

Yeah, Hopefully something is done about it. Sure its not everymatch but it happens enough that people complain. And there already arent that many players.

[paper jackal]

ah ?

[grave veldt]

out of my 8 cryo runs i got spawn rushed in the first 3 but i havent had antisocial behavior elsewhere, just normal pvp stuff

[eager forum]

At the meantime people learned that coop was sometime the best strategy. I think it is more something of person playing the game for a while now. It is not surprising you find people coop. When you play solo and want to do pinwheel you have to ask around if anyone want to go

[grave robin]

Damn I hope they address it. I thankfully haven't ran into any people teaming on my Cryo runs but I know it's happening.

[hardy lantern]

I got kidnapped by a 20 men team and they took my shield. I think they will force me to stabd in the rain without an umbrella. Save me runnahs! The streamers are getting out of hand.

[grave veldt]

pinwheel is doable solo without help but you probably will get into a pvp fight unless you're quick about it

[eager forum]

Depend on your gear

[fallen echo]

it's fine if it's organic and done in-run over proximity chat, but as the case was for me and for everyone else who's said 6 or 9 man teams in cryo there's never anyone talking but they all seem to coordinate their positioning effectively and hit you at the same time

[tight spade]

Pinwheel solo = Hope you killed everyone and there isnt a shotgun assasin left over.

[leaden spoke]

Runnah, MIDA wants you to unplug 20 UESC bots from their charging stations.

[grave veldt]

ive gotten away with some stupid stuff wrt getting inside pinwheel

[eager forum]

I did it organically with 3 other people. I asked one guy, we met another guy we asked him, and then another one

[hardy lantern]

The monst amount of people I seen at oupost solo was 4. The map probably only has 5 players in total.

[jade kiln]

Cryo only good loot

[winged pendant]

At a certain point very quickly it becomes team up with us or die

[tight spade]

Oh neat, Noone wanted to talk last time i did solo outpost. Then again that was maybe cause i already stabbed two to death 😇

[jade kiln]

U mean teams

[leaden spoke]

I had 6 once, we teamed organically in Processing, then moved to Flight Control, and opened pinwheel

[grave veldt]

people love to shoot me on solo even if I use prox chat. tho i've had positive interactions too

[eager forum]

Honestly I say it is 50/50 when I talk to people either they are friendly either they attack me

[tight spade]

Yeah, trust is low in bungie games.

[jade kiln]

Cryo should be weekday and ranked weekends

[tight spade]

Nah both 24/7

[grave veldt]

idk why they have to alternate at this point. cryo isnt so special anymore 2 months into it

[tight spade]

🤣 Bring back duo's too. Lets see how long queue times can get.

[jade kiln]

Duos was fire

[nova oxide]

There is cheaters now in solos

[round onyx]

lvl 23 lfg contracts and pvp

[tight spade]

Imagine cheating

[eager forum]

I wonder if this game wouldnt be more succesful if it was solo only or max duo

[jade kiln]

You’re just bad bro its ok

[hardy lantern]

Because it creates a cycle of farming cryo for end game loot and farming the other maps for cryo keys when cryo is closed. It even cause a spike in queueing for cryo because it's like a flood gate.

[nova oxide]

YEAH I AM BAD WHEN TWO PEOPLE WHO ARE IN SOLOS ARE WORKING TOGETHER

[eager forum]

Just join them

[grave veldt]

working together isnt cheating

[nova oxide]

Let alone are match making so they can duos in solos

[jade kiln]

Holy crybaby

[winged pendant]

Playing other maps when cryo is available is much better generally too for contracts and such cause most of the sweats are on cryo. Good time to hit keys

[ocean path]

Why have I played like 70hours and never seen the Misriah or V99 as loot

[grave veldt]

i guess im just not keybrained enough lol ive only done one vault so far

[muted palm]

Bro, there's like a Misriah every weapon's locker in Cryo almost, lol

[jade kiln]

“Why have i played for 70 hours and scared to play cryo”

[grave veldt]

blatantly not true

[hardy lantern]

They have small chance to appear in outpost arms lockers.

[nova oxide]

HOW ABOUT YOU TAKE A BULLET TO HEAD BITCH

[ocean path]

I've played like 8 cyro rounds, not fun without a premade y'all
Suprised I havent seen it through those rounds still

[muted palm]

Lol, then you haven't played the game at all

[jade kiln]

Enjoy mute🤑

[hardy lantern]

Being vault brained is like rediscovering the game's endgame.

[winged pendant]

I went from thinking "no way will I ever complete all the vaults" to completing a few and thinking "well I probably won't ever get to do 6" then completing 6 somehow and now I guess I'm looking to do compiler. Just keep playing it and trying to improve and it'll happen.

I mostly crew fill

[grave veldt]

i have, i havent seen a single misriah in cryo weapon lockers. i have one in my vault from something else

[jade kiln]

Mods eviscerate him

[tight spade]

Best way to get a misriah is to kill another player in cryo

[muted palm]

It drops so often we don't even bother picking them anymore from their size, Stryders, Misriah, all the non-standard weapons are almost all weapon's lockers loot in Cryo

[muted palm]

Just loot weapon lockers or strongboxes, its so f common

[hardy lantern]

I do lfg channel people and random fill. My best runs were with peopld from crew fill. First time I got the red valuable item I was teamed up with afrench person who barely spoke english and a guy that was at least 50 years old.

[grave veldt]

maybe im just unlucky then idk

[jade kiln]

I know u dont wash ur ass stinky

[winged pendant]

Crew fill is legit, sometimes bad but mostly good experiences on cryo

[grave veldt]

i pretty much only fill too, cryo's been largely alright tho other maps semi often have people being foolish

[ocean path]

To be fair this was before the weekly free kits so I was meeting people bringing in two stacked wstrs to hit the minimum lol

[hardy lantern]

He is baiting you. Misirah is rare even in cryo when you don't rip it from a dead person.

[hardy lantern]

Hope you insta block those types.

[muted palm]

No it fucking isn't lmao. Cryo drop tables are literally all non standard weapons, boosted

[plucky scroll]

blocking doesnt do shit

[grave veldt]

i did a successful fill run then we did vault 1 the next run. i have a 2 and a 3 key in my vault waiting for a situation like this to happen again lol

[jade kiln]

How can i be baited i enjoy the game even when losing my fucking underwear in cryo

[runic wolf]

Good morning world 👋

[half yoke]

morning

[hardy lantern]

Your skin is too attached to the rest of you.

[runic wolf]

I don't get it

[willow nymph]

morning

[spark hull]

LFG compiler runs. Vandal w/ cryo skin, have experience, lvl 229

[jade kiln]

Arachne

[hardy lantern]

I am skinning your for charter.

[magic sapphire]

True Solo mode added in S2 or else they are done - Heck if they had any sense they would be rolling out a experimental version of it now to spike interest - There are not enough players to support this current game mode .

[jade kiln]

Guys laugh at crybaby

[hardy lantern]

There is true solo mode but shells just aren't made for that.

[magic sapphire]

Solo Mode == PVE - no other players

[jade kiln]

This guy lives under a rock or just hides whenever hes in solo

[magic sapphire]

Scream all you like but without it this game is dead ...

[hardy lantern]

True solo mode no pve on map

[grave veldt]

i liked doing priority contracts solo but a decent trio is noticeably more fun than solo imo

[jaunty crystal]

outpost lobby crazy rn

[jade kiln]

Thats what having friends is like

[grave veldt]

im doing fills lol

[magic sapphire]

I played the entire Halo series without any "Friends"

[grave veldt]

i still got truth/lies 6 to do but thats literally it

[jade kiln]

Want a cookie?

Holy edgelord

[grave veldt]

most boring beef of all time

[hardy lantern]

Humans are social creatures lonely boy

[runic wolf]

I also have that friendless achievement lol

[magic sapphire]

you guys are going to have a ton of fun on discord channel shouting at the world when the live service is shutdown

[jaunty crystal]

not having friends that game with you today makes sense were all busy with life, but damn in Halo? even the hunchback of notredamme had friends for that

[jade kiln]

Im just gonna go back to apex lmao

[steady kernel]

I am the only human, everyone else is a rodent

[hardy lantern]

Imagine if we lived in a world with more than one extraction shoot.

[willow nymph]

no more swaws

[spice ether]

Oh.. Sakiguchi CO-EVOLUTION 5/5. I do not like the order of these objectives.

[hardy lantern]

No, I am the only human and you are a fish.

[lyric portal]

Instead of nerfing everything I love can we please start being able to stack keys n shields n bags 😩💔

[echo bough]

World before your comment: 🌎 World after your comment 🌎

[jaunty crystal]

unsanctioned hostilities 4/5 is fucking me up now that im matching with lvl 260s

[unreal heart]

is it just me or is it really annoying that barters are rng?? Like deadass my barters have been absolute dogass for the last few days

[grave veldt]

it's easier than 4 tbh

[jade kiln]

Those are like the most unstackable items

[grave veldt]

4 has you go around every poi in a really short time frame while the pve on 5 is very very doable on trios

[spice ether]

Really? I just find the trigger the lockdown then go get the SIMbiont is a bit shit. Why would I walk away from the lockdown and leave it open to someone to go in and muck it up for me. Why not get the SIMbiont first! I haven't tried it yet, but reading it is making me annoyed.

[grave veldt]

i dont disagree but i found 4 more stressful anyway it's easier to get killed by a rando

[jade kiln]

They just gotta make gold and purple keyrooms silent

[scarlet field]

I already messaged the devs on twitter. BAGS, cores, lootbox keys, etc (things with no random affix) need to be stackable. shit is crazy

[jade kiln]

What game have you seen those items stackable bro🫩

[echo bough]

I wish dire marsh greenhouse one was at least a little quieter lol. Things a death trap. I went in and waited like 15 min as an assassin and still had 2 people try to rob me in solos

[muted palm]

Biggest grip in the game is having told MOUSE1 for 27 minutes to buy 800 bullets every single round.

[dusk quarry]

I need to quit marathon bruh everytime i see a highground terrace area I'm searching for a TAD

[jade kiln]

I had the ai uplink one and got murked

[winged pendant]

Finally a valid complaint

[scarlet field]

😏 they already made nades stackable

[echo bough]

Everytime you see a crouched silhouette in the distance the adrenaline spikes

[undone hatch]

Conquest lmg RIPS thing is so good

[jade kiln]

Im talking bags and keys bro i can understand lockboxes but keys are definitely different

[sharp vale]

Did a dire marsh key, got a reinforced yellow, got killed by a free kit who rushed in. Im okay.

[scarlet field]

find the unique sentry gun lmg on perimeter, shit is fat magged and lazered

[tawny tusk]

Do DNA access cards only appear in Cryo vaults?

[prime breach]

They also should be sold in full stacks

[jade kiln]

Death penalty

[scarlet field]

if its the same item, it should stack, not chips with different affrix, just bags need to stack and cores, shit is so stupid

[winged pendant]

Believe it or not, jail

[jade kiln]

BAGS SHOULD NOT STACK

[muted palm]

"Who is not ready yet?"

"Sorry, I'm just buying bullets bro."

100% chance of hearing this in Trio.

[strange flare]

has escape made anyone god yet?

[scarlet field]

bags should stack, it hurts noone, net positive for community, ez bungie points

[jade kiln]

HOW TF DO U STACK A BACKPACK

[grave veldt]

i always spend a couple min juggling my vault and backpack between matches lol

[strange flare]

9,757

[muted palm]

You put a backpack inside a backpack, infinite times.

[cold stump]

right click purchase to backpack

[scarlet field]

put a backpack in a backpack

[jade kiln]

THATS A RUSSIAN DOLL BRUH

AND YK HOW THEY STACK RUSSIAN DOLLS ITS SMALLER HOW DOES THAT MAKE ANY SENSE

[leaden kelp]

what are the best misriah mods?

[scarlet field]

i bet i can fit a backpack in a backpack

[grave veldt]

8 backpack inside 16 backpack

[jade kiln]

Max ur getting is 3 bags

[scarlet field]

ill taKE IT

[jade kiln]

Just save creds bro cyac sells them pretty cheap anyways

[winged pendant]

Faster shooting mag any level and anything else

[naive pine]

An auto loadout button that pulls from your vault when you don’t want to think about it would be clutch

[grave veldt]

cyac doesnt sell the cool bags with buffs tho sadly

[jade kiln]

Peak

[grave veldt]

it'd be nice to have a set loadout you can choose that it tries to make and if it's unable it prompts you to buy the items off the armory

[winged pendant]

Getting a schema for the big med bags made me feel richer than getting gold mods out

[naive pine]

And then it gives you a price, if you approve, it auto-buys them too

[grave veldt]

i got a schema for 16x ammo i think but thats all lol

[naive pine]

I want an HMG attachment that makes every shot sound like a giggle

[winged pendant]

Part of the idea behind sponsored kits

[naive pine]

2 shots, hehe; fighting for you life shots, hehehehehehehe

[winged pendant]

Fairly often get barters for 2 enzyme reps for a blue sponsored kit which is a really good deal actually. Extract with that and spin it into a cryo load out for free basically

[twilit scarab]

No this was on outpost

[grave veldt]

i'd generally prefer shelling out more money on ammo/heals than have to do a run to exfil it but i get the risk reward aspect too

[mossy marten]

Can anyone explain why blue patch kits are not as available as blue shield charges for barter?

[naive pine]

Barters rotate daily

[mossy marten]

I know, but the shield charges always have a better deal

[soft plank]

You can click inspect and click the add to backpack or vault to make it a tad faster just an fyi

[tired halo]

any news on performance improvements?

[glad cypress]

Finna go cryo fill and theif drone mid for them 🔥

Any one that hasn’t run vault 1 or 2 want to play

[empty barn]

Oh yay another YongYea "dead game marathon bad" grift video.

And Paul Tassi is important for some reason.

That will be great for the community.

[glad cypress]

Imo if we all just continue to love our game and spread the word I think we will be fine in the long run

[empty barn]

I love Marathon even when it hates me.

[glad cypress]

I’m suprised by the amount of people I’ve talked to about it that didn’t even know it exist at all

My work has a fuck ton of people that work there in their 20s and hella people don’t know about it

[grave veldt]

i'd take the offer if i were home, despite my prior ragebaiting towards you I don't actually mind you. after seeing some other folk here I feel like I gotta say sorry

[cold stump]

this 06 key shit is serious it got me scheduling runs several days in advance

[grave veldt]

i only found out about it as it was coming out

[glad cypress]

I don’t even remember 🤙 no hard feelings

I do a fair bit of trolling myself lol

[grave veldt]

i did vault 1 yesterday but not 2, i have a 2 and a 3 key

[glad cypress]

If ur on before it closes hmu

[hardy lantern]

It has happened yet again. I have been kidnapped by a 6 men team of streamers and they are making me do the shimmy ay shimmy ah swah la la la

[glad cypress]

Did they let u live

[hardy lantern]

They did and they put 5 credits in my bra

[grave veldt]

she just had to dance to swalla by jason derulo apparently...

[glad cypress]

I just need vault 4 and 6 keys but yet to even see em lol

Opened every other vault a few times now

[grave veldt]

vault 1 was surprisingly easy but maybe 6 is evil idk

[noble gyro]

I have a 4 if you're willing to ante a 5

[glad cypress]

I currently have one 5 so yes I am

[hardy lantern]

I am in a similar situation but I only need vault 6. I will get either the TRiage or recon cryo skin by the end of wipe hopefully

[noble gyro]

hell yeah let's crew up

[glad cypress]

Sent dm

[winged pendant]

Just had a team open drone wing key and told me (rook) to go get the scraps, easy 25k rook run thanks boys

[winged pendant]

6 is evil took me 5 try

[grave veldt]

not looking forward to that lol

[rose trench]

Anyone doing cryo this morning before it ends I need 356

[leaden kelp]

im doing key runs with nothing in my loadout except the key and a backpack, same with my squad. its actually so much more palatable lmao, less aggressive enemies and less full kits

[scarlet field]

wtf is a key run

[west rivet]

Just played a couple rounds of Hunt Showdown which I really used to love, but man, Marathon is just more fun 😭 I hope it survives and motivates me longtime

[leaden kelp]

opening key rooms with the purple keys

[sly narwhal]

where do you guys usually go to farm up on vault 5/6 keys its the only sub im missing and I wana get a bunch for the next cryo rotation

[rose trench]

I have I haven't found any 5s or 6s

[scarlet field]

lmao, have u noticed the key based match making>

[late grove]

outpost and ranked

[grave veldt]

i got a hunt key off humble choice but didn't even activate it maybe I should try it after im done with getting level 100 and compiler here lol

[sly narwhal]

how do you get vault keys from ranked?

[scarlet field]

ranked outpost?

[late grove]

the warden and in game events have a much higher chance of appearing

[leaden kelp]

I was noticing it when I had full purple loadouts, always ppl with keys on them/being hyper aggressive. but running into no one right now with nothing in my loadout

[sly narwhal]

ah so its from wardens and red room primarily?