🗣marathon-general-chat

[gleaming sundial]

yeah i mean i upgraded from edge of darkness to unheard

pve was a bonus. i wanted the extra stash space and scav box for free start of wipe

[odd sapphire]

honestly not sure why bungie even decided to go into extraction shooter area.....

should have just made D3

[ashen lava]

yup

[deep patio]

They all had a lil too much fun in tarkov. Thats what happened

[gleaming sundial]

ive got 2500 hours in eft and paid $250 total to get all the fancy shit + any dlc in the future. that's a pretty good ROI.

[odd sapphire]

or gotten back into halo. Bungie how about you stop being money hungry and get back to ur roots and let the cash naturaly flow in

[cyan crag]

Or just made a story-driven first/third person shooter with PvE instead of targeting an incredibly niche genre of shooter

[buoyant temple]

That's another story then. People somewhat forget to specify this detail just to grow drama

[ashen lava]

bungie should revive concord

[odd sapphire]

it would have been good practice for them to go back to what they are good at but not in the long run. peoples brains just crave that dopamine high

[pearl mica]

You lot are pregnant again I see

[gleaming sundial]

This is the 5th time it's happened and they have used the same excuse. Once? Okay fine. 5 times? It's a systemic issue.

[thorn vortex]

But that’s not profitable 😤😤😤

[cyan crag]

So then why go to extraction shooters? Literally the opposite of dopamine highs

[cobalt rover]

Deffinetly is between him and his goons. I think this is where the true problem lies in bungie. Not only was he removed as ceo previously then reinstated as ceo. He has been dealing in the monetary market for bungie as has taken a lot the freedom from them. I dont think we should hate on the people taking their time and effort developing this game. Their simply trying to build something from a 30 year old IP that is engaging to the player. Give the corporate sude of the company (leadership) a boot or force them to change their ways.

[buoyant temple]

Just learn from Marvel, f inclusivity, focus on the 90% of grooners not on the 10% furries

[odd sapphire]

i agree with "why extration shooter" i dont know why either lol

[gleaming sundial]

all of my friends who play Destiny 2 are saying the same thing

[odd sapphire]

someone really liked playing Tarkov

[gleaming sundial]

none of them have any interest in the extraction shooter genre

[pearl mica]

Extraction Shooters are lame there’s no reward in them. Only to gain nothing tbh

[gleaming sundial]

and i don't blame them. i love tarkov but i'm a minority

[buoyant temple]

PvE is so boring man, unless you're bad asf and you find it challenging I gues

[gleaming sundial]

it takes a lot of patience to get good at tarkov

[cobalt rover]

It more then likely was pushed to be one. So they are doing their best to build a captivating world from that.

[quartz abyss]

15

[gleaming sundial]

that's just your opinion and not everyone shares that. by the numbers single player games are doing extremely well

[glacial iron]

Yeah they’re not the smartest bunch

[cyan crag]

I get that, this entire game screams of something that was pitched by the people at the top despite protests from the people making the thing

[gleaming sundial]

i love pvp games but doom: the dark ages was fun as fuck

[cyan crag]

Again Pete Parsons can suck shit

[gleaming sundial]

BG3 was incredible

[quartz abyss]

ew

[gleaming sundial]

There's room to enjoy both. Not every game has to be a PVP sweatfest

[deep patio]

Aside from tarkov. Can extraction shooters be used as money milking machines? Especially with how niche they are

[pearl mica]

Gnop

[cobalt rover]

PVE can also be a much more methodical game with stacking of items, abiilites, and power ups to defeat enemies. Where PVP is the pure skill between player fights

[buoyant temple]

Ye such games you play it once, and a good one comes out like once every 2-3 years?

[gleaming sundial]

Tarkov isn't really milking players. You can buy like 10 outfits that's it.

[peak herald]

I wouldn’t call them niche considering “extraction shooter” is the new “battle royale.”

[gleaming sundial]

lol

[deep patio]

Oh. Ig that makes sense

[cobalt rover]

I dont feel that it cant be monatized as heavily as a BR but it deffinetly will have elemtns

[odd sapphire]

they should have made "The Battle of the Twilight Gap Royale" lmaoooo

[buoyant temple]

Real

[peak herald]

Tarkov is more about shanking than milking.

[odd sapphire]

i would have played the shit out of that

[cyan crag]

Destiny Royale with cheese

[deep patio]

Im fatigued by BRs. Im not having a good feeling about extraction shooters being the new BR now

[gleaming sundial]

skill issue

[odd sapphire]

FACTS. 😭 i knew they threw when my boi BYF left

[buoyant temple]

If you don't buy the giga mega Editions, you have to grind 9h x day for 3 months to catch up

[deep patio]

Elements beyond skins or similar?

[deep patio]

Byf is out??? Nooooo

[cobalt rover]

I dont think they can go much further beyond cosmetics. It would break the game

[gleaming sundial]

no you don't. you get a bigger stash and bigger secure container which doesn't move the needle all that much

[high hazel]

bro this game is gonna go crazy on launch trust

[cobalt rover]

But that also depends on how heavy its forced to be monitized by the higer ups

[buoyant temple]

How much does it take to upgrade stash and get that container?

[odd sapphire]

and then 2 months later dead

[gleaming sundial]

just doing tasks like normal

[deep patio]

A whole ass 2nd job

[buoyant temple]

You're coping hard

[gleaming sundial]

ive gotten kappa twice this wipe chief

[high hazel]

nah man, marathon is going to last for years to come

[deep patio]

Id love to see that

[buoyant temple]

Near end season

[peak herald]

They are EXTREMELY immersive, and they basically function like an MMO. From a corporate viewpoint they are extremely attractive. The problem is that big corpa doesn’t “get” what makes them good, which is how you end up with Marathon: A schizo game that can’t figure out what playerbase it’s trying to capture or market to.

[gleaming sundial]

do you even play tarkov?

[wild tapir]

I want more Mielgo x Marathon stuff 🥺 pls, and more ost 🥺

[buoyant temple]

Did

[gleaming sundial]

at soonest wipe is mid august

were firmly mid wipe territory not end wipe

[odd sapphire]

every company with a name gets a spike. unless your concord. but after that people move on from the hype.... and game stays dead. "The Finals, Delta Force, all good examples

[buoyant temple]

How many hours per day?

[cobalt rover]

Can anyone tell me their favorite aspect of this game? For me this game has a lot of elements and gameplay systems from other games that I love. But curious to see what other people think.

[gleaming sundial]

ive got like 900 raids this wipe, average raid is like 22 minutes

[high hazel]

delta force is in like the top 5 for player count on steam, how is that game dead lol

[buoyant temple]

Want to see you having to run with a Gpu In the backpack instead of safe box because you have keys there

[cobalt rover]

Yeah but I think the pacing of fights is good and I love the med system.

[gleaming sundial]

GPUs are only worth 200k

[odd sapphire]

bruh, have you seen the bots in game. go watch a video. hackers and botted players

[gleaming sundial]

money is not hard to make in tarkov

[high hazel]

there's hackers and bots in tarkov too and it has less players still, delta force might be the best extraction shooter out rn no cap

[odd sapphire]

yeah

[peak herald]

I’m close to Kappa but trying to finish Test Drive 3 when I have guys walling on voip telling me exactly where I am before swinging and insta head-eyes is getting exhausting.

[gleaming sundial]

lmao delta force is infested with hackers

[odd sapphire]

ur lost on that free to play grind.

[deep patio]

I didn't get timed out..... can yall still see me?

[buoyant temple]

Did you complain about Cheaters and bots, then proceeded to say delta is good?

[gleaming sundial]

worst task in the game

[odd sapphire]

he did lmaooo

[gleaming sundial]

just camp lexos next to aspect

[high hazel]

at what point did I complain about anything? are you clueless?

[peak herald]

It’s definitely up there with the guide and psycho sniper. Once you learn that you can cheat test drive 3 with a canted sight it’s not so bad.

[wild tapir]

Tarkov got that perfect casino like rewarding feeling, and its crucial for gambling addicts like me - and i hate it

[gleaming sundial]

the guide is easy af now

[high hazel]

critical thinking level 1

[gleaming sundial]

you can do it in like an hour start to finish thanks to the map transits

[buoyant temple]

"There are hackers and bots too" as a response to a complain, isn't a complain itself? Sorry my bad

[gleaming sundial]

wait seriously? i didnt think you could put canted sights on a sr2

[high hazel]

yeah it is your bad looooooool

[meager leaf]

Arc Raider countdown: https://www.tickcounter.com/countdown/7336437/my-countdown

[peak herald]

That’s test drive 2.

[meager leaf]

June 6th and we’ll all forget MARATHONG ever existed

[deep patio]

Corporate needs to learn how to shut up and let the devs work

[peak herald]

3 is AK12 on Lighthouse with PSO.

[gleaming sundial]

oh, right

1 is the m1a. lighthouse is a trash map but the ak12 with a valday isn't the worst

[high hazel]

finals is also criminally underrated

[gleaming sundial]

test drive 2 is my least favorite task in the game. streets with a sr2 is awful.

[peak herald]

The main issue with 3 is that you have to play lighthouse and use a 5.45x39 round.

[gleaming sundial]

yeah. lighthouse is my least favorite map

[peak herald]

It’s really bad

[deep patio]

Whens the current season ending? I haven't played in a minute

[gleaming sundial]

i got a ton of ppbs from labrynth so the second go around wasn't awful

but the first go around using BS/BP sucked

bounced so many headshots at range

[high hazel]

3 weeks I believe?

[peak herald]

I’ve just been resetting until I get good spawns and then ratting with the canted sight.

[high hazel]

all things considered it's pretty balanced atm as well

[gleaming sundial]

i'd either sit between upper/lower chalet or camp blue fence at water treatment

[deep patio]

Thnx

[peak herald]

Lighthouse is such an ass map. If you get a spawn on the south end you might as well ditch your loot into a bush and pull the pin on a nade

[deep patio]

Damn

[gleaming sundial]

it's terrible

it needs a rework so bad.

[high hazel]

dire marsh is the best map 🗣️

[deep patio]

I wish i coulda played on it....

[gleaming sundial]

reserve and lighthouse both need reworks imo.

instead were getting an interchange update? like interchange is just fine

[peak herald]

There’s so much vegetation and hidden bushes everywhere that you can’t even approach any location without making an enormous amount of noise, and if you spawn on the north end you just sit still and wait on the people in the south who only have one way to go.

[grave ibex]

Embeds got disabled?

[nova moss]

why interchange i love that map but thats like the least popular one isnt it?

[deep patio]

I was wondering where it disappeared to

[high hazel]

yeah moderators of public discords don't know how to be cool unfortunately

[deep patio]

It was pretty funny tho

Wait am i gonna get banned for sayin this??

[gleaming sundial]

Interchange is really popular. I mean they could add some more stuff outside the mall, but Reserve and Lighthouse need work before Interchange.

[grave ibex]

Embeds were live after the disaster livestream for a bit I know

[lime spire]

well the traxus server just got deleted out of existence for no reason, it just disappeared lmao

[gleaming sundial]

I love pvp in the mall. Some of the most dynamic fights in the game.

[grave ibex]

Logo is stolen from Antireal that’s why probably

[high hazel]

You might, I got banned from the once human discord for calling a mod out for abusing their permissions

[nova moss]

at least in interchange i dont spawn like 2 pubic centimeters away from other operators and scavs

[gleaming sundial]

lol yeah, interchange is great.

[deep patio]

The shit was happening in there for that to happen?? Explain Chief.

[high hazel]

I'm also banned from the flat earther discord

[fresh jacinth]

Games DOA

[lime spire]

no one knows, it literally just dissappeared

[lime spire]

traxus logo aint stolen lol i agree and stand with antireal but c'mon

[grave ibex]

Gif embeds definitely worked. I used a few gif tab items and they worked fine

[polar flame]

customs was great and they destroy it, so big fps drops after updates..

[lime spire]

i was the one running the server in and out of character, but i didnt quite hit the create button on it, some old member from early traxus chat days did. i joined like third

[cobalt panther]

mæow :3

[deep patio]

Ig ill watch what i say more. There was a pretty harsh message i typed out for management and i had to delete... i thought i got timeout but i find myself talking here still so im not sure what changed...... maybe mods agree with me but wouldn't let me have it said here anyway

[high hazel]

nah speak your truth king, if you get banned for it it's because they want to oppress you

[nova moss]

Saying marathon stole the entire aesthetic from antireal is insane at this point it literally does them no good.

[gleaming sundial]

i think they are working on fixing the perf issues soon

[deep patio]

Either way, hope it goes back online so yall can build more infrastructure or something

[gleaming sundial]

it runs fine for me but ive got high end pc

[deep patio]

Then ill let my displeasure for corporate culture on a global scale more known when i can

[lime spire]

i was kinda tired of running it anyway, a break is nice and it was too complex to just remake, everyone got worn out the first time already, it was complex as hell, i just wanna get closure for people because there was some seriously cool stuff there (even a website) and i want to provide the like 250+ people that were there with a better answer than "i dont know either lol it just dissappeared"

[cobalt rover]

Wish we could get one thing from Devs today just as a followup :\

[high hazel]

bungie leadership can't do any good apparently

[tough crypt]

Are the art devs stealing art?

[grave ibex]

Don’t have time to thumb through his entire catalogue, but look at the “C”’s in this piece https://antireal.info/image/186317337067

[scenic meteor]

What if they don’t wanna

[peak herald]

Interchange sucks because you either die 5 seconds after spawning or you get ratted in the mall.

[deep patio]

Assets are antireals but the rest ill give to Cross and the other artists that consented to contribute

[nova moss]

Me the rat stealing peoples stuff in the mall.
"I love this map!"

[lime spire]

..no fucking shot

[misty warren]

Rekt in 4k brother

[lime spire]

us??? blame bungie lol

[peak herald]

It’s my favorite scav map for sure

[misty warren]

I was referring to how adamant you were that it wasn't stolen

[deep patio]

Sorry all that work just got offswitched. Sounds like you guys really got into shit

[lime spire]

well yeah i wasnt expecting a COPYRIGHTED LOGO to be stolen

[misty warren]

You have too much faith

[grave ibex]

I just use male for most people on tbe internet, like how ships are usually female.

[lime spire]

yeah....

[cobalt rover]

Well Ill just keep sulking in the corner for now lol

[high hazel]

uh oh the pronoun police are here

[nova moss]

For sure! A few of them are! Thats the thing people should be angry about.

[scenic meteor]

What’s wrong with pronouns shawty

[misty warren]

Has anyone seen if Sekgen logo also stolen?

[deep patio]

Make the frogs gay

[peak herald]

Don’t take the bait, please.

[warm pebble]

Why do people keep saying Bungie should hire antireal like it's a gift antireal definitely don't wanna work for Bungie 😭

[lime spire]

i wouldnt be surprised but its also more complex so id doubt it more but i still wouldnt be surprised

[high hazel]

nothing's wrong with them, why do people feel the need to get offended for other people

[high hazel]

they should just give her the bag and apologize

[deep patio]

Yea she dont deserve that kinda hell.... just the money

[warm pebble]

Absolutely

[vast geyser]

because tbf, bungie should hire them
That doesnt mean they should work with bungie

[scenic meteor]

Let me bait in peace

[grave ibex]

Yeah, compensation is needed for her and the clearcut theft

[warm pebble]

She definitely doesn't have an issue with finding work I feel like it's kind of patronizing to assume that her getting a job at Bungie is a gift 😭

[empty hill]

they mean pay antireal

[cobalt rover]

I agree the damage is done already. Unless she got a deal with sony

[nova moss]

REAL!! being a pmc and spawning on the other side of the parking lot is ass sometimes but you always have a minute to react and be able to fight back.

[high hazel]

bro working for bungie sounds like a nightmare at this point

[warm pebble]

Dawg hiring and paying are different I see people literally saying "they shouldn't just pay her once they should hire her going forward" I know the difference

[vast geyser]

unless ur upper management, then ur getting bank for running a company into the ground

[lime spire]

no she literally said she struggles to make a living

[nova moss]

yeah especially when literally everybody online hates you if you work in the art department. Im sure morale there isnt great.

[peak herald]

Didn’t she originally say there was no way she could pay a lawyer to fight the art theft because she was poor?

[high hazel]

yeah until they collapse or you get laid off, just go work for a company that isn't actively brain damaged

[cobalt rover]

Its a high stress environment its hard for it not to be in some sense

[lime spire]

^^^^^

[warm pebble]

Y'all are confusing work and money, I'm not saying she's a rich artist I'm saying she's too good for Bungie they also don't pay a ton

[lime spire]

no she also very specifically said she's unemployed

[deep patio]

Yea i remember that tweet. But didn't she get like donations from people to fund a lawsuit? Granted she wants to go through legal hell

[nova moss]

honestly just go indy at that point idk why these huge companies keep spending billions of dollars on games no wants when games made by like one guy can make millions

[cobalt rover]

She also doesnt live in the US, but this would be a civil case which isnt expensive and a lawyer would take this pro bono.

[sand ridge]

So what are we better bungie upper management all leave once they get their last payment from sony as part of the acquisition deal?

[misty warren]

She could easily find "free" counsel with how cut and dry the case is, bungie admitted to stealing it. They'd make a bag off a settlement and the lawyer would take a fee

[high hazel]

I think sony should just walk in there and slap all of them upside the head then fire them all

[peak herald]

Yeah, I guess you could say she got a lot of “exposure” from Bungie using her art.

[cursive perch]

wait so is marathon officially cancelled ?

[empty hill]

they already used her art bro 😭 whats the difference if shes already working for them

[misty warren]

Sony is way worse than bungie lmfao

[cobalt rover]

No if Pete lays off people before the exit it would be bad. They have already lost most of their core staff.

[ionic violet]

you have no idea about $ with lawsuits i can tell... my family is in a civil suit thats cost us over 60k and its frivilous at best and there is little to no way for us to recover the money unless we counter sue and spend more money

[grave ibex]

Can’t you die from exposure?

[empty hill]

yep

[peak herald]

Yeah

[deep patio]

I want their bonuses to get paid to staff so they can do better with the game. The execs have enough money fuck em

[thorny zinc]

Anyone else want marathon 1 campaign remaster?

[still oasis]

antireal probably doesn't want bungie on her resume

[cursive perch]

RIP Bozos

[deep patio]

Right i forgot about the pro bono work

[ionic violet]

her best best would be probono like you said, but then you are dealing with slimeball lawyers tryin to sue for big bucks

[cobalt rover]

I was sued at 16, I am aware that lawyer costs are expensive but in this case a lawyer would take this pro bono to try and take money from a settlment.

[still oasis]

the problem is all the current low paid staff are the best they can get with low salaries. need to clean house and hire up people who command better salaries

[cursive perch]

A lawyer can do this for free for a percentage of the settlement

[deep patio]

And dont take shit from top brass

[still oasis]

i mean when you work for someone you do what they say

[peak herald]

A lot of people don’t realize that there is plagiarism, and then there is straight up literally copy/paste. The latter almost NEVER happens, so this is actually so much worse than any other scenario.

[ionic violet]

its a industry problem, its not an individual problem. games in the past 40 years cost fractions as much as they do now for AAA and its not sustainable. the same issues are happening with the movie industry and other software sectors as well

[peak herald]

There’s almost nothing Bungie could do to defend themselves if it goes to court.

[cursive perch]

why are Bungie devs even online right now ? 🤪

[cobalt rover]

The US is a beautiful place sometimes but to have to come in from a foreign country to fight this would be a nightmare in of itself.

[deep patio]

True. But do you wanna work for a braindead boss?

[ionic violet]

everything will go the blender route eventually

[still oasis]

ya of course not, the hiring managers need to go too

[ionic violet]

especially with generative ai

[deep patio]

HR needs to go to

[high lark]

Gamers need to go

[misty warren]

They should release the name of who stole it so we know what games to not buy if they're names attached to it

[nova moss]

its actually baffling that they could use that money to make oil rigs or kill people but instead make these movies and games NO ONE wants

[peak herald]

lol come on man, you really buying the “rogue employee” story?

[misty warren]

Where in that statement did I say it was a rogue employee? Personally I think it goes deep and multiple people knew about it

[peak herald]

The art director for the game started following AntiReal right after the game got into development, so you could start at the top and work down.

[cursive perch]

it was fucking Joe Cross' direction

[lime spire]

since the traxus logo was stolen too it seems like a lot more than just one past person stealing

[cursive perch]

I bet he knew

[grave ibex]

The fact that the art is so endemic to the point Bungie has to rip up all their art for plagiarism tells me that was common practice and not just one employee formerly at bungie

[misty warren]

You're a moron and missing what I'm saying and trying to say some other dumb shit that I don't don't disagree with lmao go to bed lil bro

[misty warren]

I agree

[misty warren]

100%

[high lark]

If your a real fan you’ll buy the deluxe edition

[peak herald]

Do you have Tourette’s?

[cursive perch]

the art director was fully aware. stuff like that doesn't happen accidentally

[misty warren]

Are you a Neanderthal?

[nova moss]

are you talking about the rc car company traxxas?

[cobalt rover]

Im not sure thats the case. Joe follows lots of artists and takes inspiration from across the industy.

[peak herald]

Ctrl + c, ctrl + v

[misty warren]

🤨

[peak herald]

No, this is Patrick

[lime spire]

https://antireal.info/image/186317337067 @nova moss @livid venture

[idle rapids]

SPLITGATE 2 time

[nova moss]

last year the rc car model company traxxas hit bungie with a trademark because the game has a company called traxus

[lime spire]

look at the Cs/Ks

[misty warren]

Very observant, good job billy

[peak herald]

Finally, some intelligent conversation

[cursive perch]

bro, he goverened the artists to a certain direction/look he wanted for the game. Antireal was a huge part of their reference board. He was aware of the similarities to the point he might have known about actual copy/pasted assets

[peak herald]

🧐

[deep patio]

If I get the money. Im payin her for commissions. Her work is incredible to me......... fuck what wasn't taken as ''inspiration''?

[cursive perch]

nah but seriously is what you get for not inviting me to play the alpha

[cobalt rover]

I dont think that a complete art style can be stolen. If this was early development and they took inspiration from her work and other work alike their is an obvious reason why it would look similar.

[misty warren]

My genuine take is that they use anti reals art as reference and forgot to take the copy/pasted assets before release likely due to dev shuffling or pressure from Sony for release

[gleaming sundial]

dude she has a jacket design on her website that I would legit pay $300 for if patagonia or cotopaxi was allowed to make a quality rain jacket from the source imeage

[ionic violet]

its not just a decal sheet, its the complete art direction... its not like accidently putting the batman logo or a sneaker logo in the game, its the game direction was (blue and green neon, pixelated decal trim sheets on every object), and so the entire basis of the concept was based on the stolen decal sheet. you can't re-create a pixelated X or a pixelated asteroids logo, or pixelated whatever because the entire idea was stolen

[pearl mica]

It wasn’t her work, that art had been around for a longtime

[serene ibex]

I don't think he could memorize all references. Obviously the decails look similar to stuff from the refboard

[cursive perch]

they are 1:1 copy/pasted stuff

[gleaming sundial]

excuse? they took a poster she made that has her name as the watermark on it in the game.

[peak herald]

If that was the case they wouldn’t have bothered to rotate her personal logo 180 degrees on the images or try to scrub the text off of her images.

[grave ibex]

There had to be some massive organizational failure to not label placeholders or “borrowed” assets properly for art staff to follow

[cursive perch]

not even made in-house to be similar. just straight copies

[lime spire]

"inspired"

copy letter
duplicate
flip
much inspiration

[cobalt rover]

I feel this is to rash of an opinon, this is graphic realism with futuristic 8 bit style you cant just steal a whole style.

[misty warren]

I think they did manipulate it for aesthetic purposes and are just morons

[ionic violet]

its like stylizing the entire game black and white, with shadows, then finding out that the LIMBO textures and trims were 100% lifted... its not just the black and white, its the game looking 100% like limbo

[pearl mica]

She slapped her name on it like YouTubers slap there name on videos.

Some YouTubers have alt ready said she didn’t make the art

[still oasis]

blurring out text is kind of a tell

[misty warren]

Well clearly that's what we're dealing with lol

[nova moss]

What am i looking for? If you think they stole the T glyph from anti real it says right there that the typeface was made by adrian wrobel, wich isnt exclusive to antireal. You can buy the font here! https://adrianwrobel.gumroad.com/l/kontaktone. Id be interested to see if bungie actually purchased the license or not.

[gleaming sundial]

lmao right ok

[grave ibex]

It’s not the style that is stolen, it’s literal asset copy-paste

[lime spire]

no im talking about the traxus logo

[cursive perch]

you need to stop

[manic seal]

somewhere in the heavens... A project manager is being put to death

[pearl mica]

Keep believing in what you believe

[still oasis]

ahhh

[misty warren]

Brother the right side of the traxus logo is a 1 for 1 copy of the C in that link please go fuck off if you're gonna be that obtuse

[gleaming sundial]

so she stole art, put her name on it, and then bungie stole that art?

[nova moss]

never

[ionic violet]

yah but Vanilla ICE was sued for stealing the riff

[peak herald]

It’s like one small image in the very bottom corner of a lot of lettering, and the only one that was changed was the “T” symbol she uses, and it was flipped. That’s a HELL of a coincidence if they looked at the image and the only change made for artistic reasons was that small personally identifiable logo.

[lime spire]

i mean no i know antireal didnt make it but like, bungie didnt either, thats kinda my problem

[misty warren]

Again dude your brain has the capacity of a dead goldfish where you are not actually comprehending what is being said go away the adults are talking

[cursive perch]

you cant defend this in court

[cobalt rover]

I could see this being similar to submitting a brush set for photoshop. It was bad acting but not the entire studios fault.

[ionic violet]

yah but asset flips are at least assets that were sold...

[nova moss]

then what do you mean it was stolen, if anything they stole it from adrian then

[peak herald]

Are you projecting or just trolling? I seriously can’t tell.

[nova moss]

in wich case if they did then that IS bad

[cursive perch]

trolling obviously

[cobalt rover]

FRFR

[manic seal]

if an artist buys the license and makes stuff with it, the copyright goes to the artist. Contractual obligation to the font copyright holder is over

[cursive perch]

L ragebait

[misty warren]

The left side is the exact same but flipped, you can't be this stupid

[honest vortex]

Artists using and modifying fonts they have isn't stealing; those licenses are broadly paid for. Large corporations with hundreds of workers and multi-hundred-million-dollar budgets stealing an independent artist's work - even if that artist did almost nothing other than arrangement and recoloring etc. - is still not only offensive but makes them legally responsible, even in case of an independent contractor hire. They have to make it right.

[lime spire]

yeah i never said they stole it from antireal specifically (tho i did send the picture made by her but that was more to show the font itself, made by her or not), its just that they stole it, in general. no matter from who

[cobalt rover]

I think its just bad taste and isnt going to help improve the situation for this game.

[cursive perch]

Bungie is completely deep fried

[cobalt rover]

Managment yes, devs no.

[vivid frost]

Quite the opposite actually

[cursive perch]

the studio

[grave ibex]

I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if bungie didn’t pay for the font tbh

[misty warren]

Management didn't put stolen art in the game

[ember mountain]

lol we are still talking about this

[manic seal]

Thats not how font licensing works anyway

[cobalt rover]

If managment gets their way then yes but hopefully sony swallows bugnie and boots managment.

[vivid frost]

Devs will get laid off, not management

[honest vortex]

That is not really how it works.

[cobalt rover]

It was a bad actor not all the devs

[honest vortex]

Yep, the little guy is always ablative armor for the big guy.

[cursive perch]

"Joseph Cross? wasn't he the Art Director for the Bungie marathon game that stole art and flopped?"

[ember mountain]

I want to smell you

[honest vortex]

Yes, and the bad actor made Bungie legally and ethically culpable.

[cursive perch]

Yikes

[misty warren]

If you work on a game you see the art. Many of them followed antireal. Stop being a moron

[gleaming sundial]

I love how people are still arguing that Bungie didn't steal art when Bungie themselves admitted to sealing art.

[vivid frost]

Yup, exactly

[misty warren]

If you wanna get real technical; you're an idiot

[ember mountain]

lol

[ionic violet]

you can actually copywright a font

[cobalt rover]

I have followed this game since its launch through all the ups and downs Im not saying bungie is innocent but you shouldnt hate on the people who are just working their 9-5 trying to make something good for us.

[misty warren]

Fr make it make sense

[honest vortex]

You should. I smell like toasted cumin seed, garlic, and fresh turmeric and ginger root. I'm making healing-potion soup for my sick partner.

[gleaming sundial]

Open and shut case to me.

[honest vortex]

It's just chicken soup but with lots of other good stuff in it. :9

[cursive perch]

Nah, but my prayers go to the people that work at bungie.

[ember mountain]

What the fuck

[misty warren]

Lmao, if you think this was 1 singular person I have a timeshare to sell you

[ember mountain]

I want to lick you

[honest vortex]

You're the one who brought smell into this. Look at my icon: you think I'm not aware of the way I smell? my ideal head is 80% nose.

[terse yarrow]

Partner as in group partner? You working on a project?

[misty warren]

If you don't i will piss and shit my pants and probably also cry uncontrollably

[ember mountain]

Lmfao I say it to everyone

[cursive perch]

problem is they cant make it

[ember mountain]

LOLLL

[manic seal]

multis 🤨

[tranquil fiber]

ideal head 😩

[grave ibex]

I mean, you can in the same way as you would hate a server that spits in your food

[gleaming sundial]

The art director at the end of the day has a responsibility to prevent stuff like this. It's happened 4 times in the past 4 years. They have always used the excuse " it was a former employee blah blah". If they really gave a shit they would have gone into specifics about systems they have implemented to prevent this from happening.

[honest vortex]

Partner as in one of the pair of married lesbians I live with. She's asthmatic and having breathing issues from a flu or something, it's scary and it sucks.

[gleaming sundial]

I've had to stand up and explain systems I've had to build to prevent situations from happening that cost millions of dollars an hour.

If I can do it, ole Pete can.

[terse yarrow]

What

[pulsar mortar]

🪦 here lies marathon'

[ember mountain]

What do you smell like

[honest vortex]

hello yes this is dog

[ember mountain]

Can I play with you

[cobalt rover]

Look I am not trying to argue, I agree with you that bungie is liable but the kind of negativity that your clinging too isnt productive for a game in this state. Unless you want this game to die.

[terse yarrow]

Gain

[honest vortex]

-Poly-.

[cursive perch]

with the amount of Joe's at Bungie, the studio is the definition of:

JOEOVER

[pulsar hinge]

People higher up than the art director probably want way more out of studio contract work, which is harder to keep accountability for

[misty warren]

It's going to die anyway. This game is 100% DOA and anyone still coping is delusional

[pulsar hinge]

Bungie top leadership has always been the issue

[fervent smelt]

🧍‍♂️

[gleaming sundial]

He still gets paid a ton of money to build systems to stop plagarism.

or could have come out and said "hey we know this is a systemic problem. 4 times in 4 years is unacceptable. I'm hiring a team of people to independently verify assets going into our games moving forward that will report directly to the executive team"

[cursive perch]

yes. that sucks since I had high hopes for the title prior

[grave ibex]

The buck has to stop somewhere, and the director should be where it stops

[gleaming sundial]

the response I just typed out would have gone over way better than "it was a former employee nbd"

[pulsar mortar]

atp who knows if it will even see the light of day

[ionic violet]

If its checked into a version control system and its being activly used, then its beyond a single artist, noone just 'checks in' 1 file that everyone starts using on every single asset

[misty warren]

Me too, I was super into the lore and world and now look

[grave ibex]

I don’t think any company would want to risk a potential lawsuit for something as small and preventable as stolen art assets coming to light

[ionic violet]

that decal sheet was "THE SHEET"

[pulsar hinge]

According to reports, most employees including directors have been very vocal to studio management. It ends up falling on deaf ears

[manic seal]

Its my experience that behind every incident of a corpo boning stuff up there is an overworked, underpaid, likely a woman, middle manager doing their best to keep it all together but is constantly scapegoated and undermined by leadership

[pulsar hinge]

supposedly marathon’s directors don’t really listen to staff feedback though

[deep patio]

A front seat to the execution would be great

[cursive perch]

you are a $1 billion dollar studio and have one job

[honest vortex]

I've had a lot of fun with the alpha so far; it scratched some itches I just haven't been able to scratch since TCF died, which is great. I've basically known that Bungie is DOA since they decided to get rid of their in-house composers, though. That's the kind of decision corpos make, not developers who love their games and managers who know how to get out of their way.

[gleaming sundial]

Yeah I've heard this.

[deep patio]

Never have

[ionic violet]

its hard not to be vocal when the main characters look like a junior dev modeled and textured themn

[misty warren]

You're really missing what they're saying. Executives are there to make money, management and devs need to ensure they do so legally. Management and executives will always be at odds thats how business works

[magic rose]

BF6

[pulsar hinge]

Yeah, that’s true. But executives hold the power. They’re top level. When something goes sideways, it SHOULD be on them. But it never is

[cursive perch]

if you think directors just follow orders and are not responsible for the game you are clueless

[deep patio]

Booo they took away my NFS devs

[misty warren]

Well plagiarizing art starts at the bottom. It's up to literally anyone with integrity to determine where it stops. That will never be an executive.

[honest vortex]

-luigi emoji-

[pulsar hinge]

For instance, there are games that go through dozens of qualified directors and still do awful.

[grave ibex]

Bungie exec: when I said “steal it if you have to” I meant it as a hyperbole.

[deep patio]

The sheet that landed em here

[cursive perch]

game director is almost nearly like the CEO of that game title

[deep patio]

Games like?

[proud glade]

maltigi emoji

[tame granite]

Bungie just needs to launch marathon with an eververse store

[misty warren]

You really need to use the reply function dude, its impossible to know who you're referring to

[cursive perch]

nah, marathon had to die, it was that valorant smoke grenade fx

[honest vortex]

...games that go through dozens of directors -are doing awful-, director-level churn is an indicator of severe dysfunction.

[grave ibex]

I would go as far as to say that an exec would not be able to start determining the scope of plagiarism unless it was glaringly obvious and from a popular piece of media

A department director, however, should absolutely know.

[deep patio]

Zieglers to thank for that one..... he was at Riot for too long lol

[magic rose]

irab

[tame granite]

How is this a debate of course they knew

[pulsar hinge]

Yeah, exactly. Warner Brothers is the biggest culprit of this right now, but there are definitely other examples

[tame granite]

Get the Bungie meat out of y’all’s mouth they absolutely knew

[honest vortex]

Mm. Art directors can often do -more- since they're more immersed in the aesthetic space and the various people doing excellent work within it, but even then, working with outside contractors instead of paying people to make great work exposes you to serious legal trouble for exactly this reason and no one considers it as a cost, so it's always a fucking disaster when it happens.

[pulsar hinge]

Games are out here being developed for 5+ years and being cancelled because profit expectations are abysmal

[deep patio]

Oh right..... WB games

[cursive perch]

that was a straight copy to begin with. and it looked disgusting in the marathon setting. just so bad

[misty warren]

It's not the execs job to determine that, they have their own jobs in the company and expect management to handle operations.

[cobalt rover]

Yesssss to bloated with to much depending on the title. Top 5 to be succesful is reaching

[honest vortex]

WB games stop giving fascists truckloads of money to make mediocre wizard games challenge 2025: already failed

[pulsar hinge]

Yeah, but when management fails, who is in charge of management?

[deep patio]

Top 5 to be successful may even be delusional

[cobalt rover]

Hopefully fidelity changes fix it

[cobalt rover]

At this point it may

[deep patio]

The final graphics are yet to come

[cursive perch]

there wont be fidelity changes because there wont be a game

[grave ibex]

Yeah I get that entirely.

[misty warren]

The board of directors, who fire/hire as they determine if management is doing their job correctly. It's not the execs to know the ins and outs of where assets come from, its their job to determine if they're making money

[honest vortex]

They call that 'fiduciary responsibility', and even people who are in charge of it constantly fuck it up.

[cobalt rover]

Yeah excited to see the polish

[pulsar hinge]

Which is why we see budget bloat, which leads to game failures. Execs are essentially throwing managers at the wall trying to get a good one to stick

[misty warren]

Yes, that's their job. You can have bad execs.

[deep patio]

There will be. If they do really release it this Sept. Then we'll see how far they've managed to get beyond the alpha

[grave ibex]

Just like any other job, there’s good execs and bad execs

[dapper sail]

Like Hyenas

[honest vortex]

I feel like we're a tiny bit litigating the different kinds of cells present in an extremely malignant form of cancer here

[pulsar hinge]

They’re all bad people though

[cursive perch]

there was a planned Beta/Tests in August

[grave ibex]

Daring today aren’t we?

[misty warren]

Well that's not really true. They have to answer to shareholders

[cobalt rover]

Changing to a string of playtests it sounds like

[manic seal]

Yeah I'm not sure where all the corpo dogma is coming from either, like there's hard and fast rules on how to run anything inside a company

[honest vortex]

Just following orders isn't a viable defense.

[grave ibex]

I mean, not all of them, some are private ventures like Valve

[deep patio]

If the beta doesn't come out on time expect a roadmap...

[pulsar hinge]

If Pete Parsons is still CEO, the board of directors and the shareholders they answer to, are morally broken

He’s made awful financial decisions for Bungie

[misty warren]

Shareholders invest for one thing: money. If the board is not making them money, they lose their job. You can't say every exec is a bad person, that's not the case

[cobalt rover]

Its changing to a string of playtests most liekly

[honest vortex]

Valve is the spiders georg of this industry; while their way of running things has had excellent effects, it's unlikely that another company that works like Valve will grow up and succeed.

[misty warren]

Private ventures still have investors

[grave ibex]

But there are definitely people that are good execs that can run companies like well-oiled machines

[pulsar hinge]

“one thing:money”<——This is morally bad 🤷🏽‍♂️

[cobalt rover]

People not looking at their customers like fodder

[honest vortex]

Morals are for bedtime stories. It's ethically bankrupt, which is what matters.

[deep patio]

Oh shit really? Cuz i was dreading a roadmap. I have flashbacks to Cyberpunks roadmap from when.... you know.... but now the game is great so ill continue hoping that marathon too redeems itself

[misty warren]

The CEO is the head of the board of directors...... the shareholders only goal is money. They expect that money to be made, and it isn't their responsibility to make sure that's done ethically on an employee level, they only have to abide by tax laws etc. A shareholder cannot be held liable for plagiarism if they don't know about it, and it's extremely unlikely that they would be.

[cobalt rover]

Should bring more player engament too

[misty warren]

They invest their own money, its reasonable to expect an ROI

[manic seal]

OK so you're saying they should be guaranteed a return without risk? Hmmm

[misty warren]

Are you stupid or dumb?

[pulsar hinge]

Bungie’s board has done none of these things

[manic seal]

I just dont think you know what you're talking about 😆

[pulsar hinge]

They literally put the company in the red

[grave ibex]

Considering what just happened, this is a really stupid thing to say. Bungie ran the risk of getting found out on plagiarism and lost the dice roll

[misty warren]

I didn't say anything about the board doing anything in that statement, elaborate?

[honest vortex]

The whole 'money is the only thing that matters' mindset is causing us an incredible amount of problems and falling back on it as a defense of people's actions strikes me as very funny in a way that hurts.

[misty warren]

I have an MBA 🤨

[proud glade]

you can all be bees

[honest vortex]

Sorry for your loss.

[manic seal]

LOL Thats evidence against you actually

[pulsar hinge]

sorry. I meant your comment on shareholders. Shareholders expect money, and it’s the board’s job to get them that money. Bungie is failing at this HARD

[grave ibex]

It does matter when I want to clear others’ debts, help my parents and set up a retirement plan

[misty warren]

You're a moron lmao, I said shareholders expect an ROI. Expecting an ROI is not the same as expecting zero risk. Your reply made zero sense. I ask again, are you stupid or dumb?

[misty warren]

It really did open my eyes to how fucked up business really is, I needed it for my actual field of choice

[deep patio]

28 50

[pulsar hinge]

my point is that Bungie is all sorts of confused from the top level, so plagiarism making its way in isn’t surprising, regardless of whose fault it is

[misty warren]

Yes of course that's evident lol. Sucks because bungie usually does make games with fantastic gameplay, its everything else

[grave ibex]

They’re one step away from getting a Sony-appointed hatchetman to gut their staff and absorb the company

[pulsar hinge]

I’m not sure at this point if I’d rather Sony completely absorb the studio. I don’t want them to lose the “Bungie” heart, but I want them to be competent for once

[proud glade]

🐝

[pulsar hinge]

not sure why I put bungie in quotations instead of heart

[manic seal]

The risk in this case would be an employee using art without a license lol

[misty warren]

I don't think Sony will do that. They have a knack for ruining IPs and being greedy themselves

[honest vortex]

I don't doubt it. I also think it's reprehensible. :)

[deep patio]

Half a step. The henchman is half way through the door..... watching..... waiting

[pulsar hinge]

Yeah… it’s only been the past few years too. For a while they snagged studios and let them realize their visions. That’s how we got God of War and Spider-Man. Games as a service has been a gut punch for them

[misty warren]

My brother in christ you think you have a point where you have none. It's not outlandish to expect everyone to do their job within the bounds of the law. Thats is an expectation before you even decide you want to invest in something. That is not a normal risk and is an abnormal factor. We have what is called reasonable assumption of risk and if someone said during an investor meeting that "oh btw someone might steal art which would open us up to a lawsuit" they would all pull out. You are an idiot.

[manic seal]

bounds of the law

Now I KNOW you dont know what you're talking about! Lol

[misty warren]

Yet they continue to push them, oh well 🤷‍♂️

[pulsar hinge]

what if I told you they did 😏

[ancient falcon]

RIP Bungie, RIP Marathon. Remember when Bungie was special? What happened? Capitalism. Business Bros took charge, engineering and creatives had to submit. Now all we hear about is - plagiarism, layoffs, missed expectations, monetization schemes.

RIP Bungie ❤️

[misty warren]

Clearly you are the one that does not lol. Operating legally is a reasonable expectation and nobody enters business expecting the law to be broken. Keep spewing nonsense though. You will never amount to anything

[magic rose]

RIP Bungie, RIP Marathon. Remember when Bungie was special? What happened? Capitalism. Business Bros took charge, engineering and creatives had to submit. Now all we hear about is - plagiarism, layoffs, missed expectations, monetization schemes.

RIP Bungie ❤️

[sand torrent]

Halo 2!!! 🤣 🤣 🤣 whoops...

[misty warren]

Wake up new copy pasta just dropped

[pulsar hinge]

RIP Bungie, RIP Marathon. Remember when Bungie was special? What happened? Capitalism. Business Bros took charge, engineering and creatives had to submit. Now all we hear about is - plagiarism, layoffs, missed expectations, monetization schemes.

RIP Bungie ❤️

[grave ibex]

If marathon is so good why don’t they make infinite marathons

[misty warren]

You're not gonna believe this

[pulsar hinge]

Marathon ♾️

[grave ibex]

No way…

😲

[manic seal]

nobody enters business expecting the law to be broken

LOL is this a standup workshop

[pulsar hinge]

If Marathon is so good why don’t you ever go outside and run

[tame briar]

get the tape

[rancid pebble]

if marathon is so good how come it bombed so hard at Boston 🤔 maeks u think really

[grave ibex]

I think “sniffing nose snow at the christmas retreat” law breaking is different than “oh shit we stole something thst could potentially end in a six-seven figure lawsuit” law breaking

[pulsar hinge]

If Mara Sov then thong

[manic seal]

Its actually barely different at all and it happens all the time. But I dunno that's just my experience

[misty warren]

He's just a troll not worth your time

[sand torrent]

The trailer had us all on hallucinating. Glowy shrooms! Yippee!!!

[ember crater]

IF(Marathon=Good, Marathon 2, DOA)

[misty warren]

A man of culture

[grave ibex]

Also, since there are so many that participate in shareholder meetings (you can literally buy shares for these companies), coca-cola and the like isn’t going to publically tell their shareholders about their columbian death squads in these meetings

[misty warren]

Well, common and preferred shares are different.

[manic seal]

Yeah FR theres the playacting every corpo does in public and theres how it actually goes down, you know?

[manic seal]

Unsurprising the MBA brain hones in on financial technicality

[sand pewter]

Are preferred shares based on number of shares owned?

[sand torrent]

Hopefully people can keep their jobs, scrap the game, and redo. Make it like the trailer 🤣 🤣

[misty warren]

It does matter because preferred share owners have no say in the company

Typical moron thinking financial literacy is irrelevant

[misty warren]

No they are entirely different and only pay out dividends but provide no ownership or voting power

[sand pewter]

ah roger roger

[steady sequoia]

RIP Bungie, RIP Marathon. Remember when Bungie was special? What happened? Capitalism. Business Bros took charge, engineering and creatives had to submit. Now all we hear about is - plagiarism, layoffs, missed expectations, monetization schemes.

RIP Bungie ❤️

[rancid pebble]

anyways preorder the alters Poland's gdp needs this they're kind of homeless right now

[magic rose]

Did something happen? Only 9,000 people left the discord😂

[misty warren]

You don't follow gaming news?

[magic rose]

It was sarcasm🤡

[misty warren]

Text has no tone

[magic rose]

Yknow what does? Emojis 😂😂

[manic seal]

😢

[magic rose]

Sounds like what you two are doing😂😂

“Games dead” sounds more like crying than “oh really?😂”

[manic seal]

: durandal boogaloo

[rancid pebble]

what emotion does this convey ? 🫃

[pallid shoal]

u r density

[magic rose]

Laughter, which is often the underlying basis of sarcasm. Making fun of something and laughing lol. Do you speak English?

[misty warren]

Putting a laughing emoji does not indicate sarcasm

[kind gust]

When they allowing Linux in battle eye. It's literally a toggle switch

[rancid pebble]

no senor me no speak English only read it

[misty warren]

Bungie has a very anti-linux approach, thinking linux automatically means security risk

[rancid pebble]

also I was talking about the mpreg emoji u dense fk

[misty warren]

Don't try and reason with morons

[honest vortex]

What a fucking chore.

Like 96% of infrastructure doesn't run on linux

[misty warren]

Indeed. Big fan of FOSS

Wish bungie was too

[kind gust]

You can do just as much shenanigans. SMH. If you cheat, simple get banned. The lack of trust is insane. Most cheaters are on windows anyways

[misty warren]

Try telling that to boomers who don't understand technology

[kind gust]

😦

[little grotto]

Most cheaters are on vm's

[misty warren]

Who is this @pallid shoal dude just clown reacting everything i say but offering nothing to the conversation. Cmon don't be shy little boy

[little grotto]

The ones that aren't script kiddies anyway

[misty warren]

Most cheaters are script kiddies lmao

Or they just pay for a program without knowing how it works

[fervent smelt]

I farted

[misty warren]

Which is mostly windows

[little grotto]

I bet if bungie made windows it'd be made of triangles

[misty warren]

And not even their own triangles, they'd just copy paste them from twitter

[manic seal]

who up playing FANTASY LIFE i

[quaint heath]

lets all kill ourselves so we can finally play this dead game

[honest vortex]

Also, hey, just to throw this out there

[calm wadi]

who thinks Bungie should have just made a Destiny 3? THis game is a SHIT SHOW

[ruby jackal]

games dead bruv

[astral trench]

destiny 3 isn't happening methinks

[quaint heath]

destiny 3 will happen when battlefront 3 happens

[ruby jackal]

both of them

[calm wadi]

MArathon? yeah i think so too

[snow ember]

you wrote half life 3 wrong

[astral trench]

"They want more money to 2K and FIFA!"

[quaint heath]

titanfall 3* sorry

[astral trench]

oh, same joke but apex then

[quaint heath]

ur missing the line of jokes entirely

[astral trench]

nahh

[ember crater]

Im a clown

[quaint heath]

[ripe zinc]

Good morning gang

[inner swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/raising-canes-canes-napkins-canes-napkin-thief-gif-25061948

[calm wadi]

im just lost in thinking how the stuff with the art plagirism and the game coming out in a few months makes it worth it

[quaint heath]

you gonna throw it or what

[astral trench]

jokes with a foundation of facts usually are the best performing ones

[echo anchor]

whoever is deleting reactions...you wild for that, i just need 80 so i can delete my guardians

[ripe zinc]

I see the mpreg mood is still holding up

[calm wadi]

like actively hostile environment now

[ripe zinc]

Good good

[snow ember]

and no, tbh im glad they try to make an extraction shooter. i liked the alpha im still interested what game marathon will become. but yes rn it looks grim, but still the sales numbers could surpise some if you keep in mind its going to be one of the very few extrac shooters on console.

[stone spoke]

you are so cooked

[pallid shoal]

chicken

[ripe zinc]

Does it count for all reactions or just one?

[fading laurel]

coward

[quaint heath]

thats more reactions than people who are gonna be playing marathon, not happening

[astral trench]

harsh but probably true

[ripe zinc]

R.I.P. the profiles

We can do this guys

[echo anchor]

still 2 reactions off 80 lmfao

[pallid shoal]

@echo anchor what you don't want to replay all the d2 campaign 3 times before july? you have better things to do?

[echo anchor]

i will delete it once it hits 80, it';s at 78 rn

who tf is un reacting

WTF

nah y'all wild af for that let me delete my destiny characters

[ripe zinc]

Yaaaaayyyyyyy

[astral trench]

that one chains meme

[pallid shoal]

no one cares delete them or don't, you won't tho

[astral trench]

yeah ngl stop being so performative and do it

[ripe zinc]

lol

[echo anchor]

you gotta have fun in the wake of marathon dying out fam

[astral trench]

true but this is just weird you don't need a unifying agreement from us lol

[echo anchor]

same as the entire server having a unifying agreement to know that marathon is dead

[pallid shoal]

get a job

[astral trench]

?? i didn't say that wasn't the case bro

[vapid comet]

I'm just here to witness the fire lmao

[echo anchor]

copium is wild, the fire is burning

[echo anchor]

and? all I did was rebuttle your claim? why tf u feel like you're getting pressed for? I was agreeing with u lmfao

[pallid shoal]

marathon being doa has nothing to do with you wasting your precious life here. you're dying and you're spending your death here?

[echo anchor]

you're dying and you rather respond to me than use the ignore/block feature?

[magic rose]

hahah you said BUTT

[clear sequoia]

Antireal just confessed to working at Bungie. She was fired for smoking meth in the breakroom tho.

[echo anchor]

i like u, XD

[vapid comet]

The fact that the game comes out in 4 months and they're still talking about "establishing a baseline" is all the proof you need of this game's precipitous death. The plagiarism just brings eyeballs to the reality of the circumstance.

[pallid shoal]

jorobutt acting like anything matters here is better than marathon alpha

[echo anchor]

is

[astral trench]

sorry most people online saying stuff like you did before just look for conflict 24/7, jumped the gun a little

[echo anchor]

all good fam, we out here just trying to salvage what's left of this game

[calm wadi]

im just waiting to be banned from this discord tbh

😄

[clear sequoia]

Nobody cares about some art. They are using it only as fuel to dump on the Marathon hate inferno.

[echo anchor]

they won't do so, devs kindly walked away and are trying their best to salvage what data they have for development when the game goes ggs

[astral trench]

true, its not like im purposefully hoping the game dies or anything, thats something else entirely

[low pulsar]

I got in the alpha for D1 but not for Marathon. D1 was a successful launch and it looks like Marathon will be a flop. Coincidence?

[clear sequoia]

Art is cheap people.

[vapid comet]

You could not be more wrong to surmise that no one cares about the theft of artwork. Especially because it's not even the third time it has happened.

[pallid shoal]

i'm important enough to ban haha

[twin pulsar]

Schadenfreude is such an interesting phenomenon.

[echo anchor]

if marathon releases or not, im fine for it. It's just the literal evidence backing up the allegations, there's no stopping the wave of hate coming to this game

[clear sequoia]

Nobody cares about subjectively generic decals.

People WANT to hate Bungie for all kinds of other reasons.

[vapid comet]

No, but they care about a billion dollar company screwing the little guy, again, and again, and again.

[clear sequoia]

They don't. Gamers just want to game.

[radiant nimbus]

"nobody" and "subjective" in the same sentence is nasty work lol

[low pulsar]

People care about artists getting their ideas and creations stolen without credit or pay

[echo anchor]

literally no one cares about wtf was stolen from this game...we care more about the fact that this ain't the first, 2nd, but 3rd time bungie stole something

[calm wadi]

not even in the slightest

[vapid comet]

How are the vibes around HQ?

[echo anchor]

not to mention the fact that they literally confirmed it too...it's so bad i'd rather 2010-2020 nexon over bungie mate

[honest vortex]

ehhhhhhhhhhhhh maybe

[clear sequoia]

The difference here is gamers want the issues resolved and the game released. You all want the game canceled and Bungie crucified.

[astral trench]

who's "you all"

[clear sequoia]

Haters

[vapid comet]

Nobody "wants" this game.

[lost spindle]

Just got here, why does everyone seem to think the game is going to die? Only watched a few trailers and it seemed good but obviously trailers arent a great judgement

[snow ember]

i do

[clear sequoia]

There are gamers who want to play this game, yes. Don't be fooled.

[wise spoke]

Good Morning Runners!! How we doing today?

[manic seal]

Everyone == daytime TV discord users

[vapid comet]

I'm sure your stock options will vest by then.

[low pulsar]

Plagiarism

[twin pulsar]

Some players only want Marathon to fail because they're ketamine(Destiny 2) addicts

[astral trench]

true lol

[echo anchor]

Lets find out

React with if you want this game in your life
react with 🤡 if you give two shits bout it

[honest vortex]

Trans care ban (and a HUGE upward wealth transfer to boot) just passed the House, heading to the Senate. If you have trans siblings or friends or loved ones, for chrissake sake call your senators and leave them nastygrams.

[astral trench]

if you don't*

[honest vortex]

there, now i have thrown it out there

[twin pulsar]

Some people here never intended to play the title or the franchise and only came here for the "lolz". Immature but signature internet

[lost spindle]

What did the plagiarize?

[snow ember]

some art

[echo anchor]

um...this ain't the marathon I remember

[astral trench]

most of the graphic realism aesthetic was plagiarised from an independent artist that most of the current art team follows publicly

[cold river]

Imagine banning people who mentioned stolen art.

[radiant nimbus]

Plagiarism isn't the main reason, it's just the newest bit of fuel that's been added to the fire

[echo anchor]

doesn't help that you call yourself a monstrous metahuman mashup machine...whatever the fuck that means...maybe we should let you save marathon with your "art style"

[clear sequoia]

💯

[snow ember]

https://thegamepost.com/marathon-art-director-joseph-cross-issues-personal-apology-for-plagiarized-art/

[astral trench]

ok that was very odd

[manic seal]

Come give me a kiss sweetheart 🏳️‍⚧️

[magic rose]

graphic realism is when I draw a bunch of lines and simple shapes on white objects and call it an art style

[low pulsar]

They stole art from 4nt1r34l on twitter and plastered it across the entire game. It seems like a lot of the vibe of the game can be accredited to 4nt1r34l. They weren’t able to show any gameplay during the last livestream due to their art being displayed all over the game lol

[astral trench]

saying this with the plagiarism name is hella funny

do you or do you not give a shit, like come on

[twin pulsar]

It's just a hot bit for people to tug off of.

That said I really hope people take the lesson to heart and do not repeat this error a sixth time

[clear sequoia]

All the problems are easily fixable. What's more delicate is the court of public opinion. Because it's often irrational, ignorant, and emotional.

[magic rose]

how much did this game cost to make anyway?

[astral trench]

not even a court, its more like a mob

[lost spindle]

So they directly stole the art or just referenced it too closely to be "original but inspired"?

[honest vortex]

The Peripheral, Season 1, Episode 6.

[vapid comet]

Directly stole, including the visual canaries inserted in the art to see if it was stolen. Loss was present in one of them, and it's in Marathon.

[low pulsar]

Directly stole https://x.com/4nt1r34l/status/1923067988871147605?s=46&t=mfE69C2B4942tfOYXiD9xg

[radiant nimbus]

directly stole. The artist's logo and even a meme she made were found in the game

[lost spindle]

Ah

[low pulsar]

It wasn’t for you anyways lil bro 😂😂

[honest vortex]

oh hey, the emojis got there in the end. :)

[low pulsar]

Bro thinks I want to grab ips off of some randos on discord 😂

Bro took the pronouns seriously too 🙏🙏

[steady iris]

In the first age

[low pulsar]

You pay for discord nitro please be fr

[manic seal]

what's with all the fatherless children all a sudden 😳

[haughty patrol]

Bye bye

[echo anchor]

Fatherless is crazy 💀

[ruby jackal]

what does xer even mean

[lost spindle]

the artists logo being in the game is kind of crazy

[echo anchor]

free trial for discord's birthday mate

[echo anchor]

DONT, mods deleted my comment bout it, they do not enjoy that

[inner swallow]

Guy on Destiny ayit 😂

[ruby jackal]

LOL

[manic seal]

Looney tunes avi transphobe btfo

[ruby jackal]

I wonder why

[river forum]

It's wise to steal art

[clear sequoia]

At this point we can say they used it without permission on an early build of an unreleased game that's still in development. Somebody incorporated it into the project that's a fact. Maybe that somebody is a POS and tried to pass that artwork off as their own. That's entirely possible. But regardless I believe it will turn out to be a blessing in disguise in the end. (cuz it was caught early)

[echo anchor]

wait who brought in an alt lmfao

[ruby jackal]

Im the alt

🗣️

[echo anchor]

nvm we figured out who it was

[magic rose]

i didnt like the art style from the start and now that we know they stole assets that makes it even funnier

[radiant nimbus]

bro why are you defending Bungie like you're on the development team, it's okay to acknowledge that they have a problem 😭

mostly a leadership problem

[clear sequoia]

I want to play the game nerd.

[echo anchor]

??? yap much? chat get a load of this bologna

[ruby jackal]

hahahahahah

[echo anchor]

Sure, we all do too.

So, what do you develop?

Or HAVE developed?

[inner swallow]

aids

[echo anchor]

you cooked, give this mans a medal

#🗣marathon-general-chat ? I think you can't read...

[manic seal]

summer in the US looks like

Children that should be in school :/

[echo anchor]

Alr Ima head out for a bit, I'll talk later chat.

You need to go back to school ngl

YO who sent that emoji, das wild

[ruby jackal]

crazy emoji wtf

[candid talon]

Woah emoji

[radiant nimbus]

I have 3k hours in D2 but you'll never catch me defending Bungie for some of the bad decisions they made. Wanting to play something doesn't automatically mean you should throw your reasoning out the window.

[candid talon]

[clear sequoia]

I don't really know enough about this to comment. But I don't doubt it. I just don't want to see this get blown out of proportion to the point the game, which is a lot more than just some decals, never sees the light of day.

[misty warren]

Brother lmao

[dark warren]

"A bit of decals" is a bit reductive tbh

[clear sequoia]

Not at all. They didn't steal polygons/meshes from her so, what else is it?

[misty warren]

Delusional does not begin to describe your thoughts

[kindred vigil]

yo neeyth

[candid talon]

🕵️ yall got any mpreg?

[wet herald]

I dont really know how far this goes. Joe Cross said they narrowed it down to one decal sheet that gets used across multiple assets. Seeing as he followed AntiReal for years, who knows if he's been "inspired" by AntiReals work. I dont know enough about it.

[kindred vigil]

Gosh we're still on the art thing? Don't worry I got an answer

it was me.....

[oblique owl]

dawg inspiration is not copy pasting a logo from someone else's art

that's plagiarism

[wet herald]

I put "inspired". If you didn't notice lol

[twin pulsar]

Inspired work is fine. No need to even credit apart from an offhand credit at an interview. What isn't okay is copy paste

[dark warren]

Also after playing the alpha, I think there's more than a few reasons that make me think that the game will die off relatively quick. Most likely it will have a dedicated base but I'm guessing average of 4k players a day after the first 3 weeks. The gameplay loop (as it stands now) just doesn't have enough legs to stand on its own. Especially for a game that costs $40 and there's a premium battle pass on top of that.

[oblique owl]

I legit didn't. ty for pointing it out I'm so tired 😭

[kindred vigil]

Bro sea of thieves season 16 released what r u doing

[wet herald]

The decals are blatant, you fellas aint wrong, everything else though like the artstyle in general, is up for debate I suppose.

[misty warren]

Even the traxus logo is copy pasted bro. It's not one sheet

Traxus discord got nuked earlier you can use the search to find it

[kindred vigil]

we had a discord ¿

[oblique owl]

ts is fire man. Everyone knows that the higher dimensions an art piece has, the higher it's value. they only stole 2d art guys it doesn't even have a volume map or anything

[misty warren]

Yes, but not anymore

[dark warren]

I also don't really know who the target audience is. The only really successful extraction shooters out right now fall into the more hardcore camp. This game feels much more casual but also basically requires you to have 2 other friends playing (comms didnt work well and the ping system is mid at best). Are they trying to get the Destiny crowd? The Apex crowd? Idk.

[round cape]

Good thing: I got splitty 2 and it's fun
Bad thing: servers getting boof'd hard

Back to Tau Ceti yearning ...

[misty warren]

I love how he liked your comment not realizing you're making fun of him

[dark warren]

You "can" but you're at a massive disadvantage

[oblique owl]

what does this mean

[misty warren]

No you're just a fucking idiot and your music sucks

[oblique owl]

no

[kindred vigil]

They're trying to get a more casual audience /people new to the extraction genre than hardcore folk, I think I read somewhere they're not trying to get destiny players actually (take that with a grain of salt, can't find where that was "said" atm)

[misty warren]

What he said was sarcasm and you're a moron

[main prism]

good morning freaks what's up

[dark warren]

If one of your group goes off on their own because they have a different contract you may as well just head to extract lmao.

[main prism]

neeyth

[kindred vigil]

Kevin

[twin pulsar]

Having two running franchises is a more lucrative aim

[trim sluice]

battle royale crowd, since its a AAA studio needing to go for wider appeal

[kindred vigil]

Yeah that's the biggest issue playing. With (fills), gotta split off but if you're playing with a pre made team you can check each other contracts and do them

[oblique owl]

no guys this crime is fine! it's super easy to hide the body

[misty warren]

Casual and extraction don't really go hand in hand, I don't think any extraction shooter will ever capture the casual audience en masse, maybe a few converts but thats it

[main prism]

LMFAO nah i feel like most of us in here had experience with destiny

[main prism]

paul tassi said that too but we all know tassi a hater

[oblique owl]

are you being intentionally dense?

[trim sluice]

the issue is that like this game pretty much just looks like an adjacent BR outside the dedicated extraction playerbase especially given copying apex's class system, so its nothing special

[main prism]

tassi will make me God

[twin pulsar]

Just because it hasn't happened doesn't mean it can't.

[misty warren]

Has to be

[kindred vigil]

Well yeah most players r probably experienced with destiny, I just remembered seeing they're not trying to steal/take destiny players

[misty warren]

I 100% would in a heartbeat you're an absolute dumbass

[main prism]

as soon as marathon drops i'm uninstalling destiny but we'll see how long that lasts

[ember crater]

The fact a lot of people loved or atleast liked Cycle Frontier and it still burnt up makes me think its true

[honest vortex]

awww are y'all arranging a fun little coffee date? <3

[wicked quarry]

Hey. Yall better start being nice before I step in. Play nice now before I get pissed.

[misty warren]

🤨 you do it

[main prism]

i don't even know what that game is

[honest vortex]

You gonna do some posing? Y'gonna be -real- big and tough? ^_^

[ember crater]

Finger guns

[main prism]

wanna come?

[ancient sedge]

At least with pvpve I can see a PvE dedicated extraction shooter doing well for casual players

[honest vortex]

Ehhhh, the company that ran TCF is kind of notorious for mishandling their properties.

[main prism]

wait it looks kinda fun

[misty warren]

"Little b" you're scared to even say bitch I would dummy you in a second

[honest vortex]

Honestly, I loved Dreadnought too. I'm excited for Exoborne, and Sharkmob has some of TCF's devs et al. working on it.

[misty warren]

5'7" "come pull up" lookin ahhh

[kindred vigil]

Looked it up, re read, he basically said if you're looking for a similar destiny pve experience it's not for you, but the pvp may click with destiny players if you like destiny pvp

[dark warren]

It's such a weird spot. Because the extraction genre is inherently not casual but it plays casually. I think there's gonna be a real problem with new people trying to hop in late. Because by then metas will be found and with permanent upgrades available, new players will be at a massive disadvantage when facing people who play more. The same is an issue in Tarkov but the difference is those kitted out high level players can still be one tapped if they aren't careful. I'm legit curious on how they plan to address this. For how skeptical I am I legitimately do want the game to be good and succeed

[main prism]

you don't need to know the rules bro

[misty warren]

"Rules r dumb" buddy sit down the people with brain cells are trying to communicate

[main prism]

well i have a complicated relationship with destiny pvp so

[honest vortex]

I don't think there ARE permanent upgrades, I think those are seasonsal only; it'll be tough to hop in on week 7 of 8, but there'll be regular upgrade resets as I understand it.

[main prism]

just a bunch of brain cells trying to rub each other

[wicked quarry]

Can yall 2 take the esex to the dms

[misty warren]

Nice try little man but you're really not funny nor popular here

[main prism]

nice try diddy

[misty warren]

The public aspect is what does it for me

[dark warren]

Isn't it literally just one other map? 3 on launch? (Which is insane btw)

[ember crater]

I only e in public spaces

[main prism]

e

[honest vortex]

That genuinely made me laugh. <3

[ember crater]

Scandalous

[misty warren]

Nah I'm not go read old convos in here

Little man syndrome having ass

[peak sundial]

y'all are still holding out hope for this trainwreck?

[kindred vigil]

Yeah I agree with your point of people being kitted and upgraded, if you join in too late? I wonder if you're just majorly fucked so I'm wondering if there's like a "catch up" thing or something, you know how like how in destiny they make chests full of kitted gear near the end of the dlc cycle? Kinda like that

[peak sundial]

and i thought i was trapped in an abusive relationship

[main prism]

not if we e

no one has ever said this sentence before

[dark warren]

That's more what I mean. It's the same as tarkov wipes. But if you miss that first week or two you're just so far behind it's not even really worth hopping in.

[oblique owl]

CLASSIC be an idiot > double down > threat of violence maneuver, well played

[misty warren]

Well you're incredibly wrong and don't know jack shit about fuck clearly so your statement is just ridiculous and you look dumber by the second

[scenic elk]

i know very little about this game but has there been any playtests yet?

[misty warren]

Put the phone down and go to sleep I hear your mom calling you

[dark warren]

1 alpha test

[thorny kestrel]

Yes the closed alpha but its now over

[kindred vigil]

1 but if you told me to do it I'll do it for u bro

[scenic elk]

do we know if there will be a beta test

[main prism]

yes

[honest vortex]

I find it actively rewarding to rat around. :) Also, like... considering that this isn't a 'drop into an open map and go whenever' system like TCF is, there's -always- an arc, it's organized, so it SHOULD have some sense of matchmaking by gear value bracket.

[thorny kestrel]

Not yet

[honest vortex]

So, like, people who are absolutely geared to the teeth will have a tougher time finding games but they also won't get queued in against a pack of sub-1k rats.

[misty warren]

You're also in a discord for a video game so you're pretty fuckin nerdy pal

[main prism]

isn't the matchmaking currently based on play time

[kindred vigil]

Marathon should've just been an destiny city forces battle Royale who's with me!!! Reddit nation assemble!!!

[honest vortex]

Yeah, but I doubt that's going to survive to launch.

[misty warren]

Hell yeah I am and will guaranteed beat the brakes off you still

[peak sundial]

the more i learn the more i found out that its a fucking trainwreck. poor reception from playtests, lack of communication about the story, and the cherry on top. Stolen artwork from some girl a lotta people at bungie followed.

[gusty wharf]

discord user calling someone a nerd how romantic you gonna ask him on a date next?

[scenic elk]

heard this

[main prism]

you'd be surprised lmfaoo bungie makes horrid decisions on these things

[scenic elk]

my guess is that all the devs from the early halo days are gone

[oblique owl]

art doesn't have a factual/ objective value homie. My comment about >2D art having more value than 2D art was dry sarcasm that you clearly didn't pick up on, and that's fine. but like, there was no fact in my original comment

[misty warren]

No one here doesn't want to play the game were just saying stealing art is bad and you're trying to say it's not that bad. Like smarten up

[kindred vigil]

It's leveled based, which is STUPID

[peak sundial]

@clear sequoia are you actually using nerd as an insult while youre in the server for a videogame thats not even out yet. pathetic

[honest vortex]

They have, in fact, reinvented a very well-trodden wheel on several occasions. -My- plan is to die the same hopeful fool I am today.

[main prism]

welp

[misty warren]

This is so real

[peak sundial]

it was like 2 bucks. and i got it yesterday. is there something wrong with the devs? id like to know

[main prism]

i will not be holding my breath and i'll die a free man

[dark warren]

Hopefully it does, though doesn't that kind of stunt the ability for getting better loot if everyone is running the same class of kits? I don't mind the idea of ratting around (the full invis is actually awful though). But I think it's gonna end up incentivising some majorly unfun cheese tactics. Time will tell though

[peak sundial]

oh fuck fr?

glad i bought a steam key.

[misty warren]

So stealing assets is okay because you arbitrarily decided how long it took the original artist to create it? Man you're dumber than I thought

[peak sundial]

whats the allegations

[oblique owl]

ah yes. the value of art is in it's monetary worth.

[dark warren]

Don't you dare talk shit on RS2 that game is peak

[main prism]

actually art does have objective value, like the canvas costs and rarity and stuff. although most contemporary art and collections rely on subjective values to maintain its pedigree, it's not entirely false to place objective and neutral value on art.

[dark warren]

LET ME INTO THE 83' PLAYTEST PLEASE

[peak sundial]

the game is fun but if the devs did wrong we cant just shove it under the rug like bungie expects us to do for marathon

[ember crater]

Isnt rising storm Vietnam like ancient with very few players? How are they catching allegations now of all times?

[misty warren]

Careful there you're gonna fry his little brain

[honest vortex]

I mean, 'the same class of kits' can be a prety huge spread. that's the point; you can have a 0-5k bucket and that's a HUGE differential (still winnable! i've 1v3'd functionally naked), but it still means that folks with a gold bag and guns who are trying to go up against endgame PvE alien shit up on the Marathon are going to -mainly- be doing it with other 20-30k players. Buckets doesn't mean -the same-, it means being in a bucket. :)

[main prism]

mpreg his brain

[crystal belfry]

Is Bungie going to livestream tomorrow?

[main prism]

is jesus buddhist

[peak sundial]

they updated the game like 6 months ago outta the blue. it got a surge of players for a short time here

[kindred vigil]

dude someone sold their can of shit for 58k as an art piece I think anything has value by this point if someone sees it worthy

[main prism]

so real bestie

[dark warren]

I haven't heard about any of this what happened? Are you talking about them abandoning the game and the whole 83' cancelled and uncancelled thing?

[misty warren]

Lmfao thats not at all what is happening and you just continuously show how little brain power you actually have. Stay in school kiddo

[atomic oracle]

So when is this server getting deleted @acoustic iris

[crystal belfry]

Just asking because last friday they said they would livestream this friday to show updated visuals

[wild tapir]

Hell Let Loose < Rising Storm 2: Vietnam < Red Orchestra 2

[peak sundial]

oh im talking about the fact bungie stole the entire portfolio of an artist that designers n devs followed on twitter

[main prism]

no clue i don't keep up with this unreleased pile of crap

no one is 100% all the time

[kindred vigil]

Isn't hell let loose the most toxic WW2 (milsim) game out there that's all I read on the reviews on Xbox lol

[peak sundial]

@clear sequoia shut the fuck up. nobody here likes you or cares about you. the only reason youre even acknowledged rn is because youre a pest. its pathetic

[misty warren]

L + Ratio + your music sucks + flash games don't make you a game dev + little bitch + would get beat up by a 5th grader

[dark warren]

I totally get that - but I think that's gonna become much less viable the more time there is in the game. People were still figuring things out during the alpha.

[nova moss]

oatcih

[main prism]

aren't milsim games toxic in general

[twin pulsar]

Canvas = inflated base prices for luxury goods development, Rarity = Artificial Scarcity, Stuff = Market, Board, Guild manipulation.

[nova moss]

oatchi

[kindred vigil]

inherently yes, because everyone thinks their a irl soldier

[wild tapir]

Squad is pretty chill

[dark warren]

Oh oh I gotcha. I thought you were implying the devs of RS2 did something bad as well.

[misty warren]

I care about them a whole fuck of a lot more than you so yes

[kindred vigil]

Nintendo psyop

[peak sundial]

say with your chest bitch, you sound like a child worried your moms gonna catch you typing a swear

[main prism]

until they actually become a soldier and go through the worst nightmares a human can ever possibly dream of

[deep lantern]

hello kolibri

[main prism]

what is get s on

[dark warren]

HLL has a very fun community, at least on PC. I think the absolute best Milsim community though has to go to Squad.

[honest vortex]

Still: having 'gearscore on drop' as a section of 'how we decide who to bucket together' 100% makes sense. ELO too. Level? Eh. Not so much. Lots of people play 350 hours of Hunt Showdown and still suck ass supreme at it, they just enjoy the game and its aesthetics and whatnot and y'know what? more power to 'em.

[candid talon]

Nah not really I've had the chillest times in arma lmfao maybe because its kinda janky and no one takes it seriously except like the guys who are die hard but theres specific servers for that

[misty warren]

You don't even know what you're talking about and are trying to insert yourself in a conversation which you have zero knowledge of

[peak sundial]

youre so focused on school like its the only insult a middleschooler like you could come up with

[deep lantern]

swear, ya fuckin coward

[main prism]

if you don't know either how would we know

[kindred vigil]

Who wants to play bf2042 millsim

[ember crater]

No

[wild tapir]

omg hello hiii :з

[peak sundial]

i own 2042 but never played. is it any good

[main prism]

maybe it's just the cod kids

[misty warren]

It's because I told him to stay in school and he really took that to heart 🤣

[candid talon]

Is that the future one with the robots?

[grim raven]

tbf not having an education is a lil sus

[twin pulsar]

I wish there was a non janky full on Arma military simulator

[deep lantern]

throw a few damns or shits or whathaveyou in there, brighten up your palette

[primal flicker]

Arma is one of those true, rare "10+ year platforms" that the "AAA" corpo robots try so desperately to make

[misty warren]

Dudes so fucking butthurt

[kindred vigil]

I guess it's different on Xbox cause all the reviews say "don't play this it's toxic and full of larpers"

[deep lantern]

haiiiii

[main prism]

bro's vocabulary is sprinkled with letters

[peak sundial]

youre almost there. you almost said shut the fuck up.

[kindred vigil]

It's fun now but definitely not at launch no, but idk if the servers r all too alive

[main prism]

like an ice cream cone with lucky charms

[twin pulsar]

They do not try to desperately make such things. They try to tap into more casual markets. Arma isn't one of those

[misty warren]

Awww thats so cute that you think I'm the one getting dunked on here.

Time for your bottle and bed methinks

[wicked quarry]

Loser class is lowkey a banger diss

[kindred vigil]

yes (so is 2142 which is a good battlefield game)

[wicked quarry]

Oh my gosh you got torched dude.

[primal flicker]

Prior to release 343 said they wanted Halo Infinite to be a "10 year platform"

[dark warren]

Valid. There's a lot of shitters on Tarkov as well. I'm just confused on how they want to appeal to the casual audience while also having these systems in place. It's almost contradicting itself if that makes any sense lmao

[round cape]

Ahhhhhhhhh Splitty 2 is fun but the servers are struggling

[peak sundial]

it took you that long for this week ass comeback?

[misty warren]

So you took my L? Makes sense

[deep lantern]

you can say fuck you know

[nova moss]

[primal flicker]

"10 year platform" would pretty much be the most desirable end goal for "live service" games.

[kindred vigil]

aye why do I got a mida singalis version of me

[honest vortex]

I mean, if they want to keep casuals around they should stop limiting the number of sponsorkits you can buy. That makes it so easy to hop back into the game it's -wonderful-, even for folks who like to tweak their shit.

[peak sundial]

at this point im convinced he physically cant

[deep lantern]

it’s here and there, I can’t imagine it’s much fun for you

[misty warren]

Your mom don't let you swear? Makes sense

[dark warren]

Yeah on PC it's usually a bunch of people just role-playing in the fun way. You def get some people who take it way too serious but as a whole I've found it very friendly. They also will help out new players a lot.

[peak sundial]

what a fucking loser lmao. and hes still talking like hes got any sway in this

[candid talon]

Oh 2142 was what i was thinkin lol 2042 was the shit one right?

[wise herald]

How does one sign up for the closed alpha or do I have to wait for the beta?

[grim raven]

and you do? rainbow sunshine?

[deep lantern]

you realize Marathon is like the nerd FPS, correct? your insults are bouncing off.

[peak sundial]

your insults are weak and your mindgame is shit.

[dark warren]

2042 was the worst BF imo yes

[glass harbor]

Bro really is jobless 😭

[misty warren]

You're here therefore are just as nerdy as anyone else in here

[deep lantern]

get better insult material

[primal flicker]

everyone yapping back and forth like angry middle schoolers in a COD lobby are starting to look clownish, just sayin

[misty warren]

Fucking nerd

[kindred vigil]

2042 is the shit one yes

[honest vortex]

Man. Drones are ordinarily my people (such as they can be called that at all) but this is hard to watch.

[uncut basin]

[candid talon]

Man i got work in 30 mins ;/ but i love watching arguments

[main prism]

fantano saying the new sleep token is metal music for disney adults hurt my soul a little bit

[misty warren]

Maybe because it's the only word you know how to type? 🤣

[deep lantern]

we are swarming this random ass guy and just making fun of his horrible insult palette

[clear sequoia]

Cause I'm not a little bitch.

[peak sundial]

who the fuck are you.

[kindred vigil]

#smartphOWNED dude!!!

[deep lantern]

oh, finally, he swears

[main prism]

because we ain't nerds we're fun people

[peak sundial]

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN WE GOT HIM

[misty warren]

The only insult you have being nerd = you're not a little bitch? I'd love to hear the mental gymnastics on this one

[primal flicker]

c­rin­ge­, if someone is a ja­c­ka­s­s just ignore them.

[glass harbor]

Damb

[grim raven]

someone who doesnt have rainbows and pronouns in name (aka has sanity)

[peak sundial]

like you were going to heaven to begin with lmao

[deep lantern]

im sure they would appreciate your company down there

[wicked quarry]

Okay he’s trolling.

[candid talon]

I think we're all nerds in a discord server for a video game instead of being outside talking to stacy about sports

[deep lantern]

if you’re with MIDA you’re not sane, that’s the first step of joining MIDA

[peak sundial]

you dont have pronouns? are you fucking stupid? EVERYONE HAS PRONOUNS IT CAME FREE WITH YOUR LANGUAGE. dumbass

[misty warren]

Been there, banged Stacy's mom, 5/10 won't do again

[deep lantern]

also we have mpreg

you must be new here, i presume

[candid talon]

Damn, i wanna talk to stacy's mom too :/

[kindred vigil]

hey what's up ....fuck...yo ....ah fuck.....hey ...can you pass....fuck....!....

[deep lantern]

how is __ doing today