MIRV timing randomness is deeply unfun and illogical

[nimble python]

MIRVs affect all of your opponent's territory, so it makes zero sense that the time it takes for a MIRV to hit is affected whatsoever by the position of the silo or where you click. It seems like players controlling territory at the north of the map are typically advantaged by this, since the projectile travels to the north of the map to launch.

It absolutely needs to be a flat timer of 5 seconds (10 seconds is frankly too long for the opponent to react) that is the same regardless of map location

[brave mulch]

MIRVs do not have global effect. The premise of this post is wrong, so the post doesn't make sense.

[plush sluice]

MIRV timing does need to be more predictable. You can have it based on silo location still, but please show me how long it's going to take for the MIRV to land

[reef rover]

I'm pretty sure they mean "Affect a player globally" as in "affects all the territory of a player regardless of where they are"

[brave mulch]

That's exactly the wrong assumption. A MIRV does not affect all the territory of a player

[reef rover]

Yeah, but you can see what they mean in the context of their post. Don't need to be pedantic when it doesn't actually affect the notion they're trying to communicate.

[nimble python]

Thank you for saying this. I feel like what I intended to communicate is very clear lol

[random harness]

sounds like a huge skill issue

[nimble python]

It's by definition unfair depending on map placement which is even more of an issue in random games

No clue how that's somehow a skill issue

[wide ferry]

random MIRVs make the game more thrilling

also placing silos to the north is a thing

but it means unfairness based on position

[random harness]

its not unfair, its called knowing how to play the game

[royal zinc]

It’s unbalanced. Having a northern position gives a huge advantage in the end game. Why should players be penalized for spawning in the south?

[uneven bramble]

Sorry hard

[nimble python]

Exactly, this is a huge issue in general and particularly on random spawn games. It has nothing to do with skill and it shouldn't affect win outcomes this much

[nimble python]

It's not random though.. it's consistently faster when launching from the north

[brave mulch]

It depends on where you aim it

[nimble python]

This seems like a very arbitrary and poorly thought-out aspect of the mechanic, then

Why should it matter where you aim when it affects the entire territory

[brave mulch]

Because it does not

[nimble python]

I'm not sure what you mean. I don't think we're saying the same thing

[brave mulch]

A MIRV does not affect all of the target player's territory, it has a (very large) radius. The point where you aim matters a lot because:

• determines the silo that launches it
• determines the trajectory it takes
• determines the center of the radius of effect, therefore how much of the enemy land it'll affect

[nimble python]

On smaller maps, in my experience, it does seem to affect all of a player's territory, unless it's scaled by map size or opponent size

But more importantly, I really don't think players are taking this into account when they launch MIRVs, especially considering that this radius is not visible to the player launching it

[nimble python]

Besides, even if MIRVs affect only 80% of a player's territory, the actually important consequence of a MIRV is that it drops your troop count to near-0. Where/which buildings it hits is really secondary

So the fact that the time for MIRVs to hit is highly unpredictable and dependent on silo location is absolutely still an issue given that the benefit of launching them is to overcome a superior troop count rather than to specifically target cities (which, again, is not visible/predictable to the player before launching anyways)