#Colonel

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manic portal
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Discuss your builds and favorite ways to play Colonel!

smoky brook
south needle
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The music skill damage build iv been using. You can pretty much beat everything running music and just being tanky so you won't die in 2 hits. Im almost at level 30 Corrective action with no module upgrades. Just lock in

hushed bramble
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@south needle awesome. Thank you. What stats are on your modules? Full wep power? And do u use skills offten or just shoot?

south needle
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The damage on all of them is hilariously overtuned

hushed bramble
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Err so i don't shoot with the gun? I just dodge?

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And dodge makes that wave as dps?

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@south needle

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And again. On ur mods whats the main stat? Wp (wep power) or sp? (Skill power)

south needle
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Skill power

south needle
hushed bramble
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Ty vm

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Is the dodge dps build working only for colonel?

south needle
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No, you can do it on anyone

hushed bramble
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Ty

earnest harbor
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wait, just take music C and that's it ?

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@south needle

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why they're buffed on this specific person ? or it's for everyone

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think the E build with thunder it's better

blazing pecan
ember sentinel
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@earnest harbor
Well over most of the betas from what I remember music was basically ass compared to other options. So they buffed the numbers a lot and tweaked how they work. Minor one for example only exploded once like the dodge and did much less damage. Now it pulses multiple times and is alot more useful. Another reason why he picked music instead of thunder is the hilariously huge hit box for the music dodge. Depending on the room it'll hit everything without effort and the mobs just die in comical fashion.

blazing pecan
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wait nvm sorry

lethal glen
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Looks like a crit build some similar to what Heynckes can run

somber dune
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@south needle Could you check your discord dms 🙂

ember sentinel
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Well backpack would increase his firerate alot and Colonel can become a bullet hose while in aim mode

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Oh actually I think he has that key that bans your Right click

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Don't remember waht it does but think it gave alot of final dmg bonus

drifting wagon
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idk how, but I got 2 Billion damage, I thought I was doing bad, heres the perk loadout

still sapphire
normal bough
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His crit build is the reason (two active perks with 10 points) .. also combat Terminull is so important, I played music build because of Music-Evasion is the fastest way to clear any area but after building my combat teminull I only play with a crit build.

sturdy ingot
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um, so how does a colonel with no shoot perk and good gear, able to to do 2x heynck damage and have more kill with weapon atk O.o?

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does colonel have something that can auto aim?

normal bough
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Not the best one, but I'm doing good with it

rich torrent
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Even “light” aim assist can track Reaper’s spinning attack about perfectly

polar tundra
rich torrent
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Try to have your modules matching with the setup you choose

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I think Weapon Damage is a safe bet nonetheless

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Since Colonel’s Primary ability then makes you do tons of damage + have Fragile’s boost no matter what

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I personally have been using Music or (Lucky) Crit, but Fortune seems to get many people to the top Leaderboard spots

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I guess what matters is which set you want to choose first

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Those seem to be really good, maybe also Thunder Perks?

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Music is my personal favorite from all the Charm, combine it with Colonel’s Primary ability and you’ll have massive waves of Charm

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Lucky/Crit builds also work super well, Crits with your Primary Ability’s Fragile effect boosting your normal shots, will be juicy

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Try to make your Combat Terminull cohesive first with similar stat boosts and Passives

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Then plan ahead in-game for what your stats fit the most

slate elbow
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Tried the music build in CA 11 or 12 and it really is crazy

wise wigeon
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I went nuts into CA 10-14 with the crit one and 6 pieces of drones, focusing only on weapon damage

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And music for floor clearing

signal owl
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ANyone wann jumpm in a dc to help me understand this guy

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pleasee

brittle quiver
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Lol me too I'm so confused

signal owl
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back that do no damage and prof 9 ass well

south needle
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This is the best support build in the game

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No modules or grinding required, just make the guy your duo with deal more damage

shut ruin
south needle
shut ruin
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Ive seen the music reloud be reccomended alot in other char/builds i just never understood why its so trong

south needle
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probably in the skill scaling

quasi sundial
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It's similar build I use and it does crush difficulty 10 solo. Great on bosses, terrible on non-boss stages.

ember sentinel
shut ruin
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You just spam shoot n reload? Nonstop?

ember sentinel
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Probably weave a missile as well for the debuff

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Can't remember the extra details but looking forward to the lighting guy he had shown in one of the betas

signal owl
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anyone know hpow to get dps withj this guy

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elit for the l;ife of me do no damage

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lit

quasi sundial
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I've also been using a thunder E build and it actually does enough damage to function properly on difficulty 10.

green vault
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i personally use thunder from ca 1-10, then was using music from 10-20, from what i see, thunder perk give rather stable dps regardles what perk i got,
Music in other hand give stable dps but need certain perk that can boost the damage really huge.

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i only try skill build, anyone try weapon damage build with colonel?

worldly kernel
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Man this build is so busted lmao

worldly kernel
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😂

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just a small billion hit

worthy frigate
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Building your 6 set of relics and lvl 10 trigger skill helps a lot on damage

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If you can snag energy for your shielding it helps the group a lot. He can basically function as a healer.

stuck jewel
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cinder isle
quasi sundial
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on bosses it cubes the damage.

green vault
quasi sundial
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Normally when you deal damage its like...

  • Damage, Critical Damage, Weak Point Damage, other Perk and Relic multipliers = End Result

When the music perk is active its like...

  • Damage, Critical Damage, other perk and relic multipliers
  • THEN that end result is also applying your damage, critical damage, other perks and relics again for the repulse.
  • THEN that end result is also applying your damage, critical damage, other perks and relics etc for the impact.
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It's why people can have really awful music builds but magically deal way more damage than any other build.

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So its not 2x and 3x... I think its ^2 and possibly ^3 on bosses

green vault
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no wonders

green vault
quasi sundial
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ca34 was an absolute stomp since you get a big weapon power buff, I did ca35 will play 36-40 tonight after work hopefully.

green vault
chilly ore
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what the better weapon to use

quasi sundial
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This is definitely the best weapon damage perk ever. Good god.

ancient thunder
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Meh i prefer weapon amp. 2x weapon damage op and when my base is already 1540 thats already far more than the conversion off of 900 shield.

quasi sundial
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Its funny that you say this but I never realized how much it increased until I looked at the damage before and after.

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The base damage went from 14000 ---> 45000....more than triple.

reef linden
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so whats the early game build for this guy?

rich torrent
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@bold flax This is how my Colonel setup looks, I still have the Purple Modules to reroll for better substats

This combined with a weapon focus gets insane damage, but if I'm solo- I need to get something with AOE for my Primary, or it's sometimes overwhelming.

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I had a Module with "first Perk thunder" but it got crept out, now I'm rerolling a similar Module to have something like it

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I also hate the amount of times I get a Minor Skill related substat (Colonel's Minor skill doesn't benefit from Damage stuff until you get the right Perks for it, I think?)

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His Minor Skill is his Temp Shields, but some Perks are inconsistent with listing it as Minor or Primary (though you can tell by input on the description)

rich torrent
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The one from the Arbiter of Thunder usually

pine vigil
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which build beginning?

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aions peak

rich torrent
# pine vigil which build beginning?

Sorry for the late reply, but I go for:

Wealth if in a group
Fortune if alone

Thunder is also a possible option (also goes with the Primary Perk from the same Arbiter)

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I’m not the best Colonel by any means, but I am happy to try and help with the theorycrafting

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Weapon Damage Colonel’s main issue is having little means to crowd control if he’s not super OP Module-wise, or using his Primary with AOE effects

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That’ll leave you vulnerable to Snipers and hordes incoming, if you’re not killing fast enough

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It’s incredible for sustained single-target damage from the beginning, getting better with the right Potential and matching sets

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In a group, I usually have the highest damage by a wide margin if fortune (pun intended) favors me zerotwochibi

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Be careful of the Breakdown in CA that can lock out a Skill too

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If your Rockets get locked, especially while solo- prepare for a long haul

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I typically hope that either Temp Shields or my Ultimate is locked at the beginning

quasi sundial
livid spade
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which potential is best when going fortune?

rich torrent
# livid spade which potential is best when going fortune?

Try to match it with what your Fortune build affects

If it affects your shots mainly, go for Potentials that affect weak point damage, ammo regeneration, anything that lets you shoot more or boost your weapon/weakpoint damage

If it affects your Rockets mainly, then go for Potentials that make them have more AOE, boosts them at the cost of your normal shots effectiveness, etc

pine vigil
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Ok and which set ist good

ancient thunder
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Ight so here's my Colonel build. I think weapon damage on him is a mistake especially if you're pushing for high corrective action numbers so build him skill damage without a doubt (majority of Arbitor's scale off skill damage anyway). I am currently second (Potentially top Colonel if you look at first places build and time). I've reached Corrective Action 47 on my Colonel. Precision effect for your traits is only if you get lucky with immortal, for starting though I recommend damage stacking. It gives both Skill/weapon damage making it great for quick burst. And imo an arbitor blessing is essential to have even if the module is bad. once you get a good one you can replace of course but until then get what you can. I love lighning personally and music (Yes music is strong but don't kid yourself 45-50 is still a slog)

livid spade
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i played him skill damage at first and it was just a worse version of blade or max since his mobility is poor

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but i can dominate bosses with weapon damage where i cant with the skill guys, unless i build blade all E

ancient thunder
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Actually both, his rockets actually do damage however the skill perks are the main appeal and if you want more rocket damage you’ll want an E perk preferably from the music, thunder or even security tree (if you get a security perk you have a chance at a duo perk that increases all music damage by 200% which is nasty if you have echoes)

brazen owl
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hello guys has anyone worked on mage build for colonel ?

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i found out about this stupid build while playing , its a music build , where u get the reload perk and rapid reload potential and turn into a orb casting wizard

ancient thunder
brazen owl
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also im talking about a fun build not good build

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tbh there a lot of good build out there but i like to play with weird niche builds so i was wondering if anyone is doing the reload build

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and tbh in rouge like no build is bad build its just luck and how u make it work

ancient thunder
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No not a fan of reload. It pales in comparison to Minor skill music perk, shooting one and dodge one. And imo isn't as fun. Even the E for Colonel is more fun with music

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If you wanted to do a build with reload you ideally need to get the rapid reload perk and just spam reload

cold willow
rocky elk
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why does he suck

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icant play as him he sucks

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help

chilly ore
rocky elk
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this character

chilly ore
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i think you just not building him right

ancient thunder
# rocky elk this character

look at builds already posted, read, prosper; and git gud. And considering I just cleared Corrective action 1-50 all the way through with colonel, i beg to differ lol

green vault
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game is so boring when all build eventually lead to 1, music build, while others are just bad compared to it.

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use all other rogue, use music it will work out to NekoCatBored

brittle quiver
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ive just been spamming the music dash but idk if thats optimal

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its been working so far and its quite boring

ancient thunder
final dagger
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Popcorn Kernel Skin plz

grizzled stump
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Does anyone have a good build for Colonel that can shred corrective
I got a build for regular, but it does nothing in corrective
Please tag me if you choose to respond

green vault
grizzled stump
ancient thunder
serene dawn
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i think what hes saying is.... you keep saying "i know better builds" but dont really post anything saying what they could be.

rich torrent
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this

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And Weapon Colonel can still work very well, it’s the game’s heavy focus on RNG that makes it hard

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It takes more optimization to get Weapon Damage Colonel going with your Modules

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While Skill Damage is so abundant even in Perks

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Colonel is probably the best character for Weapon Damage too, when Fragile + Weak Point Damage + Colonel’s insanely high fire rate stacks so well

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It’s not a mistake at all, if anything the game’s RNG involved even down to our fundamental Module builds is more of one

worldly kernel
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Small 4 bil hits

grizzled stump
ancient thunder
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As the top colonel in corrective I think I know a thing or two xD however a purist thunder build works very well with colonel, especially if you can get the perk that gives lightning a chance to strike twice (70%-100% depending on rarity) and higher damage on single targets with thunder strikes. Big damage on bosses for that and elites. A good mix with thunder from what I’ve experimented with is cubies mainly if you can get lucky and roll the duo. Run Thunder surge on your C. That’s a massive damage increase per .2 seconds for the cubie thunder duo. The strongest I’ve gotten with the duo setup is 500mil-600mil per .2 seconds from cubies proccing thunderstrike and 8-9 billion hits on C thunder surge perk. Even without the duo though with the right setup even with colonels C cd you can still have a massive nuke and good wave clear with some chained lightning. I’ve carried groups with just the purist thunderstrike build very easily in chains of disorder etc. You can of course run music as a build as well. Just get echoes and gg. However even without echoes it’s pretty effective. People scream that music is so broken however it’s actually very balanced. Strong but balanced. It only becomes broken if you use echo shock. The perk passive is bugged seemingly. I was able to clear corrective 48 in a very reasonable time with no echoes. Desire is fine too, the perk that adds an explosion of massive damage is needed though imo. But I do enjoy desire just for fun. Security is a great secondary for a lot of the options of arbiters as a side note.

ancient thunder
ancient thunder
ocean kelp
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Is building for Fragile not recommended then? thats is how I got my Coronel set up atm

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oh that doesnt show all the stats.

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I been using this with Fortune and Wealth. both have felt good but Fortune was doing really well for me. if I get the energy Reload and the Dup Perk for fortune and energy my damage goes through the roof

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but if i aint hitting weak points i aint doing much so I gotta aim for healshots to clear or get my Ulti off to just spray and pray

grizzled stump
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You can pair it with thunder to do a bunch of scaling chain lightning damage

ocean kelp
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idk which one it is but I could try replacing the Power + Health for the Skill Power + Health; the Blue ones

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that way Im invested into both. yea I was using Primary Lightning when i was going through the early game but I didnt notice it doing a lot on the bosses at the time. but mb actually scaling into the skill damage would help.

dusky walrus
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someone knows his RoF buff numbers when ADS?

sudden robin
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where is that?

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like the bottom text?

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alr

drifting wagon
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Y'all ever noticed that the shield set is goated for Colonel? If you're building Weapon Damage

pine vigil
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thios good?

manic kettle
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What do you play to get red ones?

manic kettle
ancient thunder
manic kettle
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Gotcha

livid spade
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@ancient thunder thinking about going colonel again how should i build him?

ancient thunder
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@livid spade Depends on what you wanna go, you CAN go weapon damage as his E inflicts not only Fragile (25% increase damage on a target for self and team) but it also makes it so all colonels hits on that target are weakspot hits PLUS you can still shoot weakspots and get MORE weakspot damage. But weakspot seems to work for skill damage too so thats up to you. I am liking Thunder chain lightning on colonel atm and i still build full skill damage. You can go reload thunderstrike with thunder surge on C (HUGE FREAKIN HUGE DAMAGE) but you absolutely need Thunder duo (not an actual duo just the name) and expansion. (Thunderstrike does more damage on single targets and thunderstrike has a chance to hit twice). A burn style desire build can work BUT you need to have explosive burn. And heavy investment on extra burn damage through the desire arbitor. As much damage from other arbitors as possible. I wasn't a fan of security and i tried games but i need to test games more. Games and security are just better as secondaries not primary builds imo.

livid spade
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got it thanks

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what are you looking for on the mods?

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the special abilities on the bottom

drifting wagon
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Highly recommend Weapon damage for CA and Skill dmg for anything else

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If you're soloing

grave jasper
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What's the go-to build for early game?

pine vigil
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this ok?

ancient thunder
north glacier
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@ancient thunder How's chain lightning for bossing, ie cod hard solos. Thunderstrike obviously pops off if perks are perfect but it rarely ends up that way for me. and chain lightning feels too low dmg potential but that's just my experience on the other chars talking.

worldly ingot
worldly ingot
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he never learn and keep asking the same question looking for new answer

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skill dmg colonel but use only 7/9 fission module

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with 3 and 4 block

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if you look closely most of his module are either 1/2/3/4 block and rarely use 5 block module that has higher intensity level/trait and higher base power

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with ~1800 (power + skill power)
you're not going to compare that to full intensity IV block with 2500-2800 (power + skill power)

north glacier
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all low level cores too, keep playing and get the mods/etc before worrying about how your stats endupd

serene dawn
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I honestly cant find a good colonel build without duo perks. It looks like other than music, leaderboards have cheaters.

worldly ingot
ancient thunder
ancient thunder
drifting wagon
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I change my mind on my last statement

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52B and the match before was 90B

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Sorry for the spam,
But here's the %s

worldly ingot
# drifting wagon

tbf, this build is kinda bug with duo perk. it almost instantly kill everything without need for good stat

keen vigil
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which relic set is best for colonel?

wraith panther
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Why no one uses the “increase weak part dmg 200% but decrease normal part to 80%”? Looks perfect combining with colonel E

worldly ingot
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you are not going to debuff every mob before you kill it do you.

wraith panther
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But you get 1.5dps on boss

worldly ingot
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so it just another 50% more damage when endgame you have more than thousand

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drawback is 1/5 your entire damage if you not debuff them

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5% final dmg but when you not hit weakpart it became 1/5 your dmg

wraith panther
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So if it is hitting a weak part it’s 200%+skill dmg%?

worldly ingot
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yes

wraith panther
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Ohh no wonder

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Do you know the formula of dmg? Including power skill power?

worldly ingot
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(power + skill power) x (skill dmg + primary/minor/ultimate dmg + weakpoint dmg) x (skill crit dmg)

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for weapon formula, it scale similar with skill power but it doesn't effect primary/minor/ultimate dmg at all

wraith panther
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So theoretically skill dmg, skill crit dmg, weak part dmg will be the highest dmg substats combination

drifting wagon
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All ik is blizzard, no one can stop me

alpine trail
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is there any weapon dmg colonel builds or just skill dmg. which arbiters work best for weapon dmg?

feral wave
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Anyone have any tips for best skills and that to be on the look out for?

alpine trail
uncut sun
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new protostrike is pretty strong on colonel. It is only available on some areas tho which is kinda cringe

wary igloo
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Y'all we need him the new system build ASAP

mossy flame
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I just build for Stars Primary and nuke everything with rockets

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With Shield buffs

magic narwhal
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What's a good build for colonel im on ps5 if that makes a difference đŸ€”

cinder shoal
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How do i get combat termnull unlocked

fallen idol
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Hello can someone tell me what perks are good at colonet ? please

fallen idol
halcyon harbor
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I don't have skill accumulation nor protostrike 4 so damage can still go up around 70 % with two more protostrike hit ^^ And i think the ultimate proto perk is almost obligatory unfortunately, the difference it makes is too important ^^

halcyon harbor
# mossy flame Thank you!

your welcome :). Hope you can do even better and show me hehe. I don't see a lot of people playing this.

echo swallow
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@halcyon harbor i have similiar build but dnt go too far like the others rogueteers, i try build him like this this, one question the exclusive rogueteer specific for colonel are good for him or bad? I see you dnt use them

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With blade and yuri with them specific i clear every content, i dnt try with colonel..

halcyon harbor
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  • Most of rogueeter specific for colonel are kind of useless. Only the firepower mapping potential chip is very important.

I'm going to show you how it looks like. I've just got big cooldown on lb so i can spam shield, the missil area being updgraded with the perk, it hits everyone around and i basically one shot everyone after.

echo swallow
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@halcyon harbor ok thx for the advice, yes spam shield and missole with firepower mapping is the way, i try put more protostrike like the build,i have to find the ultimate proto perk lol

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The ultimate perk is random drop like the others because is no specific rogueeter right?

halcyon harbor
# echo swallow <@1451870872104337499> ok thx for the advice, yes spam shield and missole with f...

There are two ultimate perks per perks. Ultimate amplification and an active perk. For protostrike i only have 1 and wasteland i never got a single 1. But yeah it only drops on read gears and it's kind of rare unfortunately. I've got only two or three perks where i got two and it's not the one i'm interested in x).

the two duo perks are also nuts and essential. It's very difficult to optimise protostrike because it requires many rare perks and a bit of luck too and it's difficult to upgrade it.

Can you show me your build ? ^^

echo swallow
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@halcyon harbor i check on my inventory, i can use your build but i miss the ultimate protostrike lol i have all primary effect damage and cooldown

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I have all pieces, the skill chip i have only minor compression or compression reload, not both anyway i think is a good start