Maru BiS

[languid hull]

Has any tested what’s her best artifacts and weapons yet? Have a full month of resources and debating putting them into her.

[topaz geyser]

I don't have any numbers or actual testing, but I've been using the new artifact set and it feels pretty good.

[languid hull]

Maybe I’m just bad but her damage feels really underwhelming

[astral tartan]

I was thinking the same thing. The exotic gl is nice tho . But ability’s somehow underwhelming

[languid hull]

I’m realizing she’s not going to be like hellhest where 1 dupe and you’re good to go. I feel like she’ll do a lot of damage with multiple dupes. Trying to decide if maybe a t6 ikora is better suited for spread season than a t0 maru

[topaz geyser]

I've gotten her to T2 and she feels strong. I top dps fairly often, but I've read that falls off in higher ranked end game stuff. What artifacts are you guys running? Im doing the blazar set. I'm sure the substats on your artifacts make a difference too

Also are you leaning into using your shield in between shots? One of her relic abilities lets you put up the shield without interrupting your reload. Helps get a bit of cooldown on your cannon while you're reloading.

[tall ginkgo]

@topaz geyser I’m running all blazer, works great, though I want to test ring in slot 4.

[topaz geyser]

I'd disagree, I feel like T1 is great, T2 nice to have, the others sound a little underwhelming

[hollow hound]

Rampaging pact is awesome on her as just tapping the shield activates the buff

[tall ginkgo]

So glad I didn’t go another week without getting this…

[tall ginkgo]

I just need a better roll on the first exotic mod, I got close dmg and ads

[sharp plover]

So far this is the build I'm going with:

• Primary: Dvergar Drill
• Heavy: Tsurinobuse (Auto-Loading Holster + Polyploidy)
• Artifact 1: Undaunted Blazar
• Artifact 2: Siphoning Blazar
• Artifact 3: Rampaging Pact*
• Artifact 4: Bellicose Blazar
• Artifact 1 & 2 Attributes: Defense Boost + Elemental Resistance + Overshield Boost + Shield Boost
• Artifact 3 & 4 Attributes: Ability Strength + Signature Boost + Weapon Enhancement + Void Boost

Some notes:

• Rampaging Pact works for Maru because her shield ability actually counts as a summon for some reason. Idk if this is a bug but it works right now.
• You can definitely argue that Safeguarding Blazar is a better Artifact 3 slot than Rampaging Pact, but I prefer to also buff weapon damage even if Maru is a primarily ability damage character. Personal preference.
• For her Artifact 1 & 2 attributes, Defense Boost and Elemental Resistance seem like the obvious BIS choices, but the other 2 are debatable. I've seen people recommend Ranged Damage Resistance and Health Boost.
• You can argue that Super Boost is superior to Weapon Enhancement or Void Boost for her Artifact 3 & 4 attributes. Again, I am opting for a more well-rounded build that also boosts her weapon damage instead of completely leaning into her signature/super damage, even if that's technically the meta thing to do for her.

[tall ginkgo]

Yeah I’m leaning into abilities over weapon damage atm.

[tough flower]

Shouldn’t summoning pact in slot 1 be considered? I feel like a 20% heal on demand is insane survivability right ?

[tall ginkgo]

Shouldn’t need a heal

Overshield should last long enough that you can quickly use the ability to get it back

[chrome sapphire]

yes it somehow works

[sharp plover]

I'm with mausium, I'd rather buff her overshields since she gains them so easily

[tall ginkgo]

It’s like people using unrelenting set for damage reduction on Rossi-11, it’s pointless because his damage reduction is baked in

[astral tartan]

What would you rather run on Rossi then if not one armored artefact ? Healing over shield rings ?

[tall ginkgo]

Yep, rings.

Huge over shields for days

Having said that, I think the new overshield artifacts that dropped with Maru will be Rossi meta

[astral tartan]

So my maru is atm at 69k almost maxed out new exotic light gl . Just need the second copy of it to be able to max. Im getting shredded by the expanse boss lvl30 . Best consistent time is 8:30 . Wanted to get that last key under 8min but im struggling . 1&2 are the new mods , 3 courageous (lacking void rampaging ) and 4 slot is expl shell .

[chrome sapphire]

use rampaging pact

[astral tartan]

I know the artefacts are not optimal.. but still .. should I use the heavy gl more than the exotic ? I think the new light gl does hefty amount of damage , I’ve got the new heavy void one with ALH and poly but not maxed

[chrome sapphire]

yes use the power weapon

[astral tartan]

It’s like / feels like Heavy GLs are lacking in damage

[chrome sapphire]

its working fine for me

how leveled are ur exotic mods tho

[astral tartan]

I got ALH at +10 because it’s the matching mod , poly didn’t dropped this week and scope is mythic because I got nothing else

[chrome sapphire]

i think even if the exotic doesn't match, u can still temprarily equip it and upgrade it

since when u dismantle it, you'll get the exotic artifact bac

maybe it feels like its lacking dmg because u havent leveled up the corresponding exotic mods

and regarding expanse boss lvl 30

what helped me was hiding behind walls and shoot at the boss and let the dot slowly deal with it

[astral tartan]

If I look up DPS value the exotic gl does more than the heavy or shouldn’t i trust this score ?

[chrome sapphire]

honestly idk much about the dps value and how it performs ingame

but what u should do is upgrade those mods

and like i said earlier, hide behind the wall and use maru's shield accordingly

can also use rampaging pact to proc the dmg bonus when using shield (which counts as summons)

and make sure u select the dot effects

[wind lantern]

currently at t1 with her, should I push for t2?

[tall ginkgo]

I’m chasing at least T2

[drifting mica]

at what point does Drill get better than an Exotic Mod Present Fleet?

[tall ginkgo]

Instantly, present fleet sucks

[drifting mica]

even if it's only Cat Band 01?

[tall ginkgo]

The base catalyst is already so good

Band 01 is QoL, never having to judge the curve or jump to remove it

[tall ginkgo]

Aww man, they fixed auto loading holster letting us to have two rounds in the LGL

Boooo

[tall ginkgo]

I’m ready to drill people 😂

[lunar grail]

Crazy wording 😭 💀

Chat here's what im gonnna use for my Maru Build. •Artifact 1 is Undaunted Blazar for the crazy damage resistance buff 💪 🛡️ •Artifact 2 I'm doing Siphoning Blazar for some more damage resistance. •Artifact 3 I'm doing Safeguarding Blazar bc it's OP. •Artifact 4 I'm currently using Explosive Shell with full Godroll on it for Maru

Gimme some thoughts on this build I'm cooking up for Maru

[chrome sapphire]

chat does rampaging pact still work for maru

[lunar grail]

Apparently yh it does but shouldn't it's better to be safe and use Safeguarding Blazar since it's way better

[chrome sapphire]

how so

it boosts ability dmg by 40%

whereas rampaging gives 33% dmg boost

which affects weap and super as well

i think if u have t1 maru (gives 2 nukes) then safeguarding would be good yeah

but assuming t0, then wouldnt rampaging be better

[lunar grail]

In my Opinion Safeguarding is far superior than Rampaging pact in the long run

[lament leaf]

I'm using Rampaging personally. It's nice that it works without having an overshield (so opening fight starter abilities in most cases) and that it buffs weapon damage. Safeguarding is still really good though. Probably better overall considering the Max Overshield buff.

[tall ginkgo]

Because the majority of Maru’s damage is ability’s based.

So you’re lowering her main dmg source just to buff her lowest, weapon damage.

You’d have to run the numbers and see exactly how ends up TBH

T1 would make a huge difference

[chrome sapphire]

yes i’m js curious on why it’s better. i’m sorry if what i said makes it seem like i think your opinion is invalid.

[chrome sapphire]

but doesn’t dmg boost also boost ability

so 7% less dmg on ability but 33% more on weap

[tall ginkgo]

That’s the math and numbers that need to be tested

I’ve been farming for a mythic rampaging with the right substats since it was confirmed that it works on Maru

I finally got her to T1 yesterday, so I really need that artifact so I can test it

[lament leaf]

I think all the blazars are good except slot 2 since it only works in PvE

It's amazingly strong in PvE of course, but if you like to PvP with Maru it sucks to have a useless slot 2

Similarly in regards to PvP slot 3 blazar could be considered weak since it's harder to maintain overshields in PvP

[slender escarp]

i dont trust the "needs multihit" blazar

[tall ginkgo]

Why?

[slender escarp]

low perk uptime, gives you no help later in fights
like "bloodthirsty shell" needs multiple kills at once with a weapon. that means red bars that are no threat

@dusty comet i had same damage on first hit :x

[dusty comet]

Have you tried comparing damage between Blazer and Shell?

[lament leaf]

ah yea forgot about that one yea that one seems no bueno as well

[tall ginkgo]

Hang on

There are no multi hit worded blazers though, unless you’re counting siphoning and it’s aoe requirement, but that should be covered by split shells and blast radius

Both of which should satisfy scattering shells multi hit…I would think

Uptime shouldn’t be low in that case

[dusty comet]

I mean it's weird to ditch Siphoning Blazer

You need that cause the only requirement for it is deal damage with Overshield on to get more Overshield

Very useful in PvP cause even if you get 1 Overshield and land a hit (pretty easy) you get a decent chunk eitherways

And that will stay without your shield as well. Last thing you want is running out of cooldown on Shield and then being a sitting duck when someone shoots you

[slender escarp]

lol
expl shell 41915 45483
blazr 39019 40062

[dusty comet]

I see >.>

[slender escarp]

explosive shell is raw 100% uptime dmg
blazar is split dmg and movement speed yeah?

[dusty comet]

iirc its all damage +something% and movement speed with high uptime as long as u shoot or use abilities

lemme check, logging in

[slender escarp]

ahh, blazar applies to abils too, lemme test

abil: 172494 vs 170236?
asdfgasdh is blazar decreasing aoe abil?

[tall ginkgo]

That aoe dmg applies to anything that explodes

Considering weapon dmg makes up a smaller portion of Maru’s dmg, and shell only applying to weapon projectile based dmg, shell is going to be worse.

[dusty comet]

and it probably applies to this as well

lowkey think this is her best build that u can get

[lunar grail]

Nah Undaunted is heavily needed

[tall ginkgo]

I’m running this…

[dusty comet]

If you seriously think Undaunted is better than healing when getting overshield, you clearly arent playing tougher content

Its immediate regeneration when you get any amount of overshield

so if u are about to be killed, you pop the shield up and u will still be full HP to spam low cooldown Shield even if u lose the overshield to get it up again

[lunar grail]

I'd rather regenerate my overshield by alot and gain damage resistance by 25% and continuously increase the duration and make it impossible to break my overshield plus u always gonna be using Maru's shield

[dusty comet]

it will run out eventually, plus overshield stays only if u are running Siphoning. Else u have to wait for something to shoot you btw, not melee hits

[tall ginkgo]

I prefer unrelenting to undaunted

[lunar grail]

Ik that that's why I always rush in and use my shield to cover my self and any teammates nearby while I gain the 25% damage resistance

[dusty comet]

it be alright if Maru had ability to heal herself, then wouldnt matter to run DR there. But she doesnt sadly. So might as well take advantage for self heals than depending on some What IF scenario :p

i run this on Attal instead. Pretty W and easy to trigger

[lunar grail]

Either way I'll stick with my opinion and u stick with urs at the end of the day we play our builds how we choose to

[dusty comet]

alright

wish eclipse was around, in theory/in application differ alot

[lunar grail]

Yh I miss Eclipse aswell the rewards and fun people u meet while playing and the funny moments u "accidentally" get ur self and others killed

[tall ginkgo]

Try out unrelenting

Stops you from requiring overshield gains for more DR

[dusty comet]

That's only active when you are using LGL

[tall ginkgo]

Anything requiring more than lgl will be dead quick.

I haven’t had any issues since switching.

[slender escarp]

i don't know how to test split shells but doing q did more dmg on explosive than blazar

[tall ginkgo]

They dmg anything within 4m of the hit

So there’s no real conditions to be set

[tall ginkgo]

As far as this, the damage difference would have been the buff to the weapon damage.

Split shell wouldn’t have been buffed because they’re aoe and not projectiles

[slender escarp]

#1436434388689617007 message
numbers were variable enough that I couldn't factor in multiple targets consistently, but doing the sig ability explosive shell hit more
and with both weps explosive hit more

[tall ginkgo]

Yeah but it was only a difference of just over 2k

Which makes me think it was due to something else

[slender escarp]

hmm

[tall ginkgo]

Single target, shell vs blazer, using blast

Shell 142k

Blazer 282k

Though my shell is only 48 on sig and blazer is 55 on sig, with all other stats matching

I’d be surprised if 7 points was responsible for over 100k difference

[slender escarp]

ok
another thought. does dmg resistance work with overshield?

omg i cracked it

[tall ginkgo]

You’re taking less dmg, so your shield should take longer to deplete

[tall ginkgo]

?

[slender escarp]

god it worked the one time i didn't record

healing + conversion looped itself into constant added overshield

ok
ok
ok
got it. but mumu recorded it as a .mmor

ring of healing + ring of conversion + overshield bonus stat
t1+ overshield bonus gives a free overshield once every 25s, if you're damaged when it activates you can bait it to permaovershield forever

how do i contact devs

[dusty comet]

tis not T1

tis this

[slender escarp]

1+. any added tier will do it.

[lament leaf]

wdym it doesn't work in PvP unless you mean gates PvPvE because you get it from the mobs there

Or is the description wrong? 🤔

[dusty comet]

It does work everywhere and it's Bis

[lament leaf]

Cause it says combatants only soo.. hopefully not a bug then 😅

Sounds way too strong to be working in PvP but if it is I'll try it 😂

[tall ginkgo]

I love the overshield stat

I don’t see a lot of maru’s running it

Seems most people go health, def, shield, resist

I don’t know why when the increase to the overshield is huge

Mine never drops ever

[lament leaf]

Defense Shield Elemental Overshield is what I go for but hard to get

Always get Barrier boost. Should test if it actually makes the barrier stronger. Probably not worth it even if it does

[tall ginkgo]

So barrier does nothing, which doesn’t surprise me seeing that this barrier doesn’t absorb a set amount of damage

I took slots 1 & 2 off that the 400% value didn’t change

Some other it’s bugged and not displaying or we just can’t see how much the overshield stat changes the barrier

[drifting mica]

surely it has a barrier value considering larger amounts of damage absorbed make it deplete faster

[dusty comet]

You'd be better with Barrier HP increase ig

One of the Summon Pact artifacts

I don't remember the name tho

[tall ginkgo]

Its not visible if there is.

[drifting mica]

is there a good place to test if Barrier stat increases how much damage you can absorb?

[tall ginkgo]

There’s no mention of barrier health anywhere for it

But seeing that the barrier duration goes down the more it’s hit, it would seem there there is one

Possibly

It’s tied to the overshield

While you’re not a max overshield the barrier duration lowers at a steady pace

Soon as you hit max overshield, incoming dmg makes the duration lower faster

So no barrier health it would seem

[tall ginkgo]

At any rate, gl with it all if that’s not how it works or whatever

I’m quitting

Netease are just plain dumb for merging Australian players with European ones

90% of the content is now unplayable

[dusty comet]

[idle rivet]

what is the best stat on 3/4 ?

[lament leaf]

In no particular order void signature ability super

[idle rivet]

No wpn enhancement ?

[lament leaf]

Nah it doesn't affect her weapon mastery

But you could do that instead of super if you like

[idle rivet]

Pact or blazar
On slot 2 ? I have both perfect state then

[idle rivet]

Slot 3 sorry

[lament leaf]

I prefer pact but they're both really good

[idle rivet]

Its about consistency ?

[lament leaf]

Yeah more control just activate shield and I like easy lol

[idle rivet]

Pact look more consistent yes just need a reroll to void boost and i should be good, no chance thats gonna be patched ??

Since sues my main T6 i want to optimize her the most aha

[lament leaf]

On every artifact that says summons it says barriers are included so it must be intentional

[idle rivet]

Perfect then ! Sometimes I miss so much with that over shield

Not right timing like boss start etc

[lament leaf]

Yeah it's nice to have a guaranteed buff before starting the fight

[idle rivet]

Yup thx for more info

[clever fog]

which are the best rolls for the fire grenade launcher