Tan-2 Quick Build Guide

[dull basalt]

His DPS builds are pretty straight forward. This is the one I've had the most success with, but want to hear your thoughts!

Would love to see other people's builds and start a discussion around him! I'll update the graphic accordingly.

[past flint]

The explosion from PL and Sunset is more than enough to handle shields.

Why are you casting enhanced sunrise only to cast enhanced sunset seconds later? You’ll likely waste a phosphorus and put your heal on cooldown unnecessarily.

[worthy veldt]

I'm guessing it is so u dont switch to heal mode during dmg since it will change the well super as well. Casting it before gives a bit of healing during boss dps at the same time providing dmg boost from well
Also phosphorus is infinite if u hit ur shots tbh

[past flint]

Phosphorus will provide all the healing you need, and it’s not like current content requires a healer

[worthy veldt]

For u yes but what about your teammates. Also if healing isnt an issue then it shouldn't matter if it goes into cd right? Since by the time u're done dumping ur ammo during super ur abilities will be back of cd anyway

[past flint]

Just seems completely unnecessary

Most builds contain ways to heal or survive atm

[worthy veldt]

It builds habit of a consistent rotation which will work in both easy and hard content

[past flint]

If you have any combat downtime, bye bye phosphorus

Can’t keep others alive if you’re dead or can’t heal

[worthy veldt]

You are seriously overestimating his cd time. If you are hitting your shots ur ability should have a healthy rotation

[past flint]

It still takes time

And in a group environment, if you’re not needing to snipe, building flare can take long enough that everything is dead

I think making sure phosphorus is always available is more important that a preheal

Especially if you’re dropping the well

[worthy veldt]

Not that much time. If its on cd look for cover or stay in cover no one asking u to stand in the middle of the battlefield tanking all dmg thats just common sense and cd management

Phosphorous once u hit 2-3 shots goes up to 12ish sec which is a lot. And u only need to hit few shots to maintain it.
If the boss is immune take cover and prepare for your next ability cast instead of taking agro

[past flint]

I can’t remember the last time I actually had to heal someone

[worthy veldt]

Did u do eclipse raid or gms with low power player? Idk tan is a support char so not playing him that way is just... idk. Its your game bruv play as u like

[past flint]

Eclipse was probably the last time I had to heal anyone

He’s not pure support, that’s the point, he can do either independently or together, with the later being the design

[elder delta]

Good tan is best dps real sigma

[worthy veldt]

That is exactly my point bruv. But u are saying healing is pointless, which i disagree on. A support char is suppose to well support. Playing selfish and only looking at healing part of his skill as a phosphorus generator is doing disservice to him imo as all...

[past flint]

You can disagree all you want, but until there is content that requires actually healing, better to hold on to flare to maintain phosphorus if it falls off IMO

[past flint]

Also, once the super has been cast, it only changes types when you click the super again.

You can have blessing of dusk active, and when you hit twilight the super stays on dusk and sunrise is available.

[elder delta]

Ladies, calm it down

[past flint]

I will raise my skirt when and if I choose sir 😂

Triple tap on magochi barely procs at all it seems

Seems very inconsistent.

[dull basalt]

I’m this weeks GM, I’m healing people non stop.

It might be as simple as the healing doesn’t really apply to you, which is totally fine. Everyone’s at different places and you might be at a point where your teammates are all decked out.

For the rest of us, the healing is the difference between completing the GM and wiping… as someone who’s had teammates go through 8+ revives, it can be rough lol.

About the wasting of phosphorus, the “main combo” I’m talking about is mainly for boss dps dumps. If you/your team can survive without enhanced sunrise, you’re right: there’s no reason to waste it. But for a lot of teams, they’ll need it. And that’s ok too 🙂

[slow pollen]

40k isn’t on here the whole thing is null and void best offer take it or leave it

[dull basalt]

Could you expound on that a little more?

[slow pollen]

the “40k sidereal” is a sniper people will NOT shut up about i don’t even main a sniper character but its inescapable in the server if you talk about piercing characters for long enough

[dull basalt]

I’d be more than happy to update the graphic and discuss numbers, but I’d like it to be evidence—not vibes—based. Hope that makes sense

[elder delta]

Can you do a video showing dps with the magoichi in practice range 🙏🙏🙏

I only have 40k and get like 7m dmg in 20s, but ive seen a video of som1 getting 13m dmg (with 40k)

[dull basalt]

I can see if one of my pack members can get a vid. I don’t have a godroll magoichi yet, but based off their screenshots it was out performing 40k.

I’d be curious if it ends up just being 40k = burst and Magoichi = sustained but I’ll have to test.

For me, if I need burst, I’m always choosing Izi over 40k but I also just love Izi. Might be biased lol

[elder delta]

Nice one, thanks

[dull basalt]

What roll of 40k were you using and do you remember the other one?

[slow pollen]

i have both but my characters aren’t t6 is it worth attempting?

[elder delta]

I had fraternity + searing mark. Exotic mods however not the correct perk on the mods

[elder delta]

My tan is t2, I am f2p

I got tan 69.7k and ning 70.2k ish

Artifacts not that good and also im not running illuminated ground/ hawkeye for 4th slot

[slow pollen]

honestly annihilation might be better idk on magoichi

@elder delta

[elder delta]

Sigma gamer for real bro

Annihilation/ frat who cares as long as u have that + last trait ur chilling

[slow pollen]

okay i’ll make clips 1 sec

[elder delta]

They say annihilation better for boss

[dull basalt]

you're an absolute champ. Thanks so much for this

[slow pollen]

gf asleep on me i don’t have a mobile setup where i can mag dump im sorry it’ll have to wait the dualsense is across the room sorry lads😭😭😭

@dull basalt @elder delta

[dull basalt]

I've been wondering about this too, especially with exotic mods

[elder delta]

If you could still try with som1 who has maxed magoichi pls

[dull basalt]

all g my g. We're patient lads ❤️

[slow pollen]

[dull basalt]

Yeah for sure man, waiting to hear back rn

[elder delta]

Cos my 40k near max

Nice one

[slow pollen]

might take mods off actually

no light link no artifacts no mods could be the move

just for nicer numbers then you can do math and extrapolate after

[dull basalt]

^^ 100% I think that's the best way to test. Establish a good baseline

[slow pollen]

@dull basalt @elder delta how long am i damaging for? 20 sec?

[dull basalt]

Ideally a full mag dump of both, with the practice range dps sheet included. Then we can extrapolate the damage per second values for each

[slow pollen]

okay i’ll show 1 mag of each

[dull basalt]

Do you have triple tap/pranayama on Magoichi?

[slow pollen]

i only have statues heart are those 2 better

i forgot to strip mods 1 sec

HOW DO I STRIP MODS HELP

[dull basalt]

Here's one trick though that we need to keep in mind:

With the exotic mag mod, you can get +25% ammo in the mag. For Magoichi, that means 5 total rounds.

Pranayama says "landing two precision hits grants the next two precision hits +150% and +200% respectively. Reloading resets this effect."

With triple tap and pranayama, you could get 7 rounds in the mag; 2 rounds being basic, 2 rounds dealing +150%, and 2 rounds dealing +200%.

I'm thinking THAT'S the godroll. But I could be wrong.

[dull basalt]

Oof, looks like you can't. Maybe slap a blue mod on if you can? Otherwise I wouldn't worry about it too much. Just send pics of the mods you do have.

[slow pollen]

looks like i’m sending it

they aren’t exotic i’ll be fine

i’m doing this for science

i’ll retest

[cedar cloud]

hey! i found what you were just talking about in game a bit ago, damage testing lolz. i wanted to go on my BF's acc he's got searing mark with perk upgrade but no fraternity, and also the mods arent +10 but still was curious
as a side note, triple tap & pranayama dont have perk upgrades to buff them even more which may make it slightly lower overall dps, but again im not really sure

[dull basalt]

Oh hey peep! welcome to the testing lab lmao

[cedar cloud]

oop i just realized i cant send pics/clips here unfortunately

[dull basalt]

Matching perks gives 160 power each. Power only matters 3k above recommended power in most cases

so for pure dps, we can ignore matching perks for the most part, unless the perk itself gives a significant dps bonus

[dull basalt]

feel free to dm them to me and I can post them. You have to chat A LOT in order to post pics. It's annoying.

[cedar cloud]

in searing mark's case it's just "landing precision hits on bosses & powerfuls adds 2 stacks" which technically doesnt matter, cuz it only procs the 300% on the last round in the mag

[cedar cloud]

sure thing

[slow pollen]

stripped 1 mag clips

but i feel like this lacks context

idk i just hope it helps

i’ll dump full reserves see if it changes anything

[slow pollen]

@dull basalt @elder delta

[dull basalt]

hell yeah thank you SO much. I'll go over the footage and see what I can get from it. Now we just gotta wait for triple tap/pranayama to see if it competes

[slow pollen]

I WASNT RECORDING KILL ME

1 sec

[cedar cloud]

i just sent over my clip + screenshots of the wep mods & perks as well

im pretty sure the enemy i spawned isnt considered a powerful also so it's not making use of the 7.5% boss/powerdul damage increase

[slow pollen]

here’s my full mag dps with everything stripped

alright that’s the best i can do i’m going back to farming artifacts i hope this helps♡

[slow pollen]

both clips are uncut to help you in your discussions 🫶

[cedar cloud]

o wait idk how to take off mods lol

[slow pollen]

i had to just nuke everything

i deleted them all

for science

mine were mythic so i didn’t care

[cedar cloud]

Oh rip, I’m definitely not doing that since this is my BFs and also one’s exotic 😭

[slow pollen]

i love that for you🫶

[dull basalt]

THE MAN THE MYTH THE LEGEND

[elder delta]

Thanks for the videos

Would be nice to have compassion with maxed ones as well but its all good in the hood

Izzi better anyways

[past flint]

They should allow us to disable weapon mods

[elder delta]

My video got auto deleted

Fire

Wtf man

[past flint]

It was too much for everyone to handle

😂

[elder delta]

#videos-and-streams message
This my dmg

20s with 40k (i play on 30 fps + mobile + screenrecorder allow it)

Also i didn't proc bellicose cos I didn't switch abilities during dps

I need t3 tan fr tho 50% cd reduction

7m dmg btw if u cba watching

[dull basalt]

I still wanna see a triple tap/pranayama roll, but it seems pretty clear from these clips that Magoichi is better for sustained dps and 40k is better for burst.

Still don't know if max Izi is better than 40k, but I strongly think it will be.

[dull basalt]

🙏 thank you so much, this is great. It also brings up the question of if you have Solar Boost on your artifacts, at what point will 40k outperform Magoichi for sustained dps

[cedar cloud]

I found another spreadsheet that mentions best mythics and perks and if they’re better than exotics or not too, it does say Magoichi + good mods < maxed Izanagi

Idk if my link will send since I’m not a frequent chatter lol

It sure didn’t

[slow pollen]

izinagi is easier to say for umeko because of her reload buffs higher in her talent tree

[cedar cloud]

I sent you it privately if you’re interested 😭

[slow pollen]

it’s easier to strip artifacts than mods unfortunately

[dull basalt]

If it's the Fyrous spreadsheet, I've seen it before. I'm using it as a broad reference, but not taking anything for fact just yet. Fyrous seems like a smart guy and hopefully wouldn't mind some double checking

[slow pollen]

i thought u were gatekeeping but you’re just get shafted by permissions in the server😭😭😭

[cedar cloud]

Yeahhh, rip sorry 🥹 I can send you it as well if you’d like, you may have already seen it even

[cedar cloud]

Also yeah it is from him

[slow pollen]

i’m not bothered i’m just teasing

[dull basalt]

My biggest issue with the spreadsheet is the lack of verifiable evidence. Maybe there's YouTube videos that accompany it that I haven't seen.

[slow pollen]

we’re both just tryna help i cba im farming artifacts

[elder delta]

Tbh i don't understand how solar boost will do anything tbh. Cos it says its just a flat 50% solar dmg applied on top of weapons dmg. Unless solar dmg boost this above 50%

[dull basalt]

I was under the impression that each respective elemental boost will increase the damage dealt by matching weapons, but that could be bad information

[cedar cloud]

I was also under that impression

Does that mean solar dmg artifact lines is actually just a throw on unemployment for example

I typed Umeko and it auto corrected to that lol

[dull basalt]

LMAO I was so confused

[cedar cloud]

💀 whoops

[dull basalt]

Mayyybe? But if you're trying to go for max izi damage, it would actually help a lot. Supposedly.

Especially since Umeko's ability damage is kinda poop

[elder delta]

No u guys r correct

It buffs the weapon dmg, but then it is replaceable with void dmg if u want to run magoichi

I was talking about the phosphorus buff

[cedar cloud]

Okay thank god, i was gonna be like 🥲 rip

[elder delta]

I have +7% solar dmg, but as per this screenshot, my normal hit does 31,932 dmg (not very clear i know), and the phosphorus does 15,966

So the additional solar dmg doesn't apply to the bonus phosphorus dmg

[cedar cloud]

That almost seems like a bugged interaction lol

[slow pollen]

this might be the orange-est photo in the server i can’t lie

[cedar cloud]

So true 🍊

[elder delta]

Real

[dull basalt]

Do we know if Ability Strength or Signature Boost affects it?

[elder delta]

I was just spam shooting and clicking screenshot to get normal dmg / phosphorus in

[elder delta]

Well it just does a flat 50% of the weapon dps so if the weapon dmg is buffed then yeah it will do more dmg

[cedar cloud]

Considering the artifact doesn’t specify “solar weapon and ability damage” or something, I’d say it has to be a bugged interaction almost on that solar boost portion though

I wonder if that means void damage boost is bugged for Gwynn’s penetrating shot and arc boost for Ning Fei’s overload passive too

[elder delta]

Wdym bugged

[dull basalt]

This is fantastic yall. I gotta go take care of my dogs but I'll be keepin an eye on this thread. I'll be uploading more character guides like #1425586214362415134 and #1425286884627714171 if ya are interested as well.

[elder delta]

Sigma gamer

[cedar cloud]

Sorry, I was referring to this comment

About the elemental damage stat lines on artifacts
unless I misunderstood 😭

[cedar cloud]

Thanks for the guides and testing! This is fun to discuss

[elder delta]

Ah i mean the artifacts would increase my weapons dmg by 7% bcos it's a solar weapon

I was just testing to see if it would increase the phosphorus dmg buff as well cos I seen som1 mention it but ig it doesnt

[cedar cloud]

right, but it wasn't affecting the amount from phosphorus? whichlegit states its solar damage in the description, that's why i was calling it a bug

maybe it isn't supposed to affect it or any passives like that though, but it kind of seems like it should from the artifact's description of just general "solar damage"

[elder delta]

I think its intentionally capped at 50%

[cedar cloud]

oh hmm maybe yeah

[cedar cloud]

you're definitely right on that lol, i got curious and tried it on gwynn so i just misunderstood my bad

[elder delta]

Ye nws it's disappointing tbh I hoped it would do more than 50% if u had solar dmg buff but is what it is ig

[cedar cloud]

buff my boi tan-2 🥀

[past flint]

Triple tap is very inconsistent

[dull basalt]

Like it’s bugged and doesn’t always work?

[past flint]

This.

Izi is not optimal for tan-2 at all, except in calamity.

[past flint]

I go from procing it once every other mag to two mags in a row.

That’s with no mods, so a rate of fire mod might help it even out.

I think the precision dmg perk is probably more reliable.

[dull basalt]

Hopefully it’s been reported and will get patched eventually. That’s too bad.

[past flint]

I think currently 40k is the better of the two

[dull basalt]

I go based off principles. That way if meta changes, people understand what weapons/mods/artifacts to shift to.

Izi is objectively better burst dps than any sniper. Is that needed for most content? Not everywhere, but it’s important to understand the principle.

As for 40k vs Magoichi, it sounds like 40k is better since godroll Magoichi is currently bugged

[past flint]

At first I thought triple tap may have had an internal cooldown

It was consistently only happening once every mag

[slow pollen]

are my rolls bad

i wanted to help with my baseline testing

[dull basalt]

I may just bite the bullet and roll some engrams until I get it to do some testing. I’m hoarding engrams for the update tomorrow lol

[dull basalt]

That’s so weird dude. Spaghetti code lmao

[past flint]

Then I proved it twice in one mag and then once in back to back mags.

I think the base rate of fire makes it tricky to proc consistently

[dull basalt]

Wtffff

[past flint]

I could exotic mod magochi right now but I’m doing the same as you lol

[dull basalt]

Smart haha. It’s a marathon not a sprint. But goddamn do I wanna hustle lol

[past flint]

Let’s say you can only proc triple tap once per mag as a baseline.

If that was the case, I think the precision dmg from statue would be better than getting to fire one more round.

[dull basalt]

Only trick is idk how Pranayama exactly works. If you have the +25% ammo mod, you start with 5 rounds, which means you could have 7 in the mag and proc Pranayama on 5/7 rounds with triple tap.

But you’re right, if that’s not the case then I definitely agree precision dmg would be better.

That’s assuming the two pranayama buffed rounds will buff the next two

[past flint]

Takes two shots for pranayama to come into play, so if it hasn’t proc’d before you hit the last two bullets, it’s a wasted

You’ve got five seconds to fire after pranayama is activated.

So if you have to reload after you proc pranayama

Bye bye buff

There’s a lot to consider

I have attal to t5 and her light linked buff duration increase only makes the base phosphorus duration from 6s to 7s.

That seems awful vs using wolf to get even more solar damage once you’ve got weapon mastery to lvl 4

[past flint]

I don’t know what everyone else was doing 😂

[slow pollen]

that’s THE best character for that encounter what are you on about of course you had mvp😭😭😭😭

[past flint]

Shhh 😂

[slow pollen]

🤭hehehehehehehehehehehehe🤭

[past flint]

Not a single person stood in my well

[slow pollen]

DAWG😭😭😭

[past flint]

I dropped it right on one of the Jolder’s supers and everyone ignored it. 😂

[slow pollen]

are there numbers comparable bubble and well in rising?

[past flint]

Not sure

[slow pollen]

hmmmmmmm

[velvet socket]

bubble does literally nothing for the team there are no numbers to compare lol

[slow pollen]

😭😭😭😭😭

[slow pollen]

dude you’re kidding😐

please say sike

say sike

[velvet socket]

go read her kit

say nothing about buffing her team

cant even get the buff as jolder from another jolder bubble bruh its ass

[slow pollen]

no wonder she doesn’t touch the meta

[past flint]

Jolder is legit, people just discredit her because it takes more investment to do decently at anything

IMO

[slow pollen]

fair

[elder delta]

Jolder + bubble + huckleberry is apparently very good cos infinite ammo + huckleberry buff when ur firing for longer

[slow pollen]

you’d think that would be helpful to teamates but i guess she’s defense?

no clue how that fits into the meta