Ning Fei artifact discussion 🧵

[upper crane]

the other thread seems lacklustre so i’m starting a new one

[round storm]

Interested in the best artifacts myself

[upper crane]

slot 1

slot 2

slot 3

slot 4

ignore the tier list it’s not character based

and then for attributes i’d say
Health/Defense/Melee resist / (Healing if you have an exotic)

Arc/Super/Weapon enhancement/ (ability if exotic)

[smoky moth]

Healing veil is overrated

[upper crane]

what would you run in its place?

[smoky moth]

I never see anyone use Healing Nutation, and it blows my mind how no one else has noticed its BiS

[upper crane]

what does it do?

[boreal warren]

you heal for whatever base damage you do after 5 consecutive shots on the same target. it would basically only work on shinkas, yellow bars and bosses because you kill everything too quickly

[upper crane]

id like to see numbers

[boreal warren]

well.. your damage numbers are high and your health and shield isnt very much.

pretty easy to see its good

i dont use it though so 🫃🫃🫃🫃

💅

healing veil can definitely be swapped out for something else though

[upper crane]

slot 3 and 4 are definitely locked to those 2 from what ive seen its 1 and 2 that are up for discussion

[boreal warren]

if i was min max king id probably go resolute conjunction in slot 1

for 35% dr when taking damage within 15m

resolute nutation is up basically constantly

[upper crane]

im farming for resolute conjunction rn...

[smoky moth]

you need to have an impact weapon equipped for that to work, i thought the same thing at first

[upper crane]

:c

[smoky moth]

I know.... :c

[boreal warren]

🥀

[smoky moth]

I also dont use Bellicose since it only affects weapon damage. I think its worth losing a bit of weapon damage to buff up a 60 sec super personally

[upper crane]

what do u say for 4th slot?

[smoky moth]

Valient veil iirc? its total damage after a movement ability

[upper crane]

could be the move, i’m not super pressed about min maxxing ning im still perfecting gwynn im just planning ahead

[smoky moth]

I skipped Gywnn and Estella and im sitting on almost 200 LE pulls and a mythic choice chest for whenever Ning gets powercrept wayyy down the line

So I had a lot of time to spare pushing Ning as far as RNG will let me

[sleek sky]

Nimble and healing veil for 1/2 put in work given how squishy Ning can be pushing content

[pulsar basalt]

Resolute mutation, healing veil are on lock

I don't care about the recommended 3/4
Inverted fury rampaging procession are also good, like either one

[upper crane]

honestly yea at this point i’d go nimble veil or nourishing pact and just take the one with the better roll

[rugged breach]

I disagree, especially in PvP - the ability to quickly recover 16% health 3x when under attack in Shifting Gates is super valuable, far more than another damage boost

[smoky moth]

Defensive artifacts and offensive artifacts don't overlap, there is no choice between them since they don't even occupy the same slots

[cyan thicket]

Your 1/2 can be anything, it doesn’t matter LMAO. Just don’t be bad at the game

What matters is your 3/4 and attributes

Valiant Veil is better at T6 as well. Your super is improved by its talents to the point where Valient Veil buffing it outweighs the 5% extra damage and the 5 seconds of Maha shots.

Me and Zombie did testing between the two artifacts and found Valiant Veil doing more damage

I’m pretty sure you’re the same guy I talked too in the other Ning Fei thread

[upper crane]

LMFAOOOOOO

[upper crane]

probably

[cyan thicket]

You are, I checked

[upper crane]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-boing-squeaky-boots-squarepants-russogoob-gif-9486823933013199070

[sleek sky]

Couldn’t agree more

[upper crane]

I NEED PVP ARTIFACTS?

KILL ME

[floral isle]

so main focus is arc boost, weapon enhancement, ability strength, and super boost?

is there any prio for those 4 stats or do they all need to be t10

[upper crane]

@floral isle slot 1/2 you want
Defense/Health/Melee resist / healing if exotic
slot 3/4 you want arc boost/ability /weapon enhancement and super if exotic

@floral isle i’m regurgitating stuff @uneven halo uploaded to his channel he’s the goat just please listen to his video

he’s the current best ning on the NA server

[floral isle]

ok bet ty

[upper crane]

his word is basically gospel

no problem twin good luck

[uneven halo]

[upper crane]

i’m sorry for glazing i’m just passionate about artifacts and i see a lot of discussion and misguidance

[floral isle]

local rankings are stacked man i’m never cracking top 10

[upper crane]

the “meta” will always be what current top teams run in calamity ops seeing as it’s currently the most difficult content in the game. there are some off meta situations like the raid but for the most part

[cyan thicket]

If you have to pick you prioritize

1. Weapon
2. Ability
3. Arc
4. Super
5. Sig

At least double up on Weapon and Ability at the minimum

[astral rover]

Yo everyone here id reccomend you get two exotic defense based artifacts and then 2 mythic offense based artis. Max the mythics and then spend the rest of your time maxxing the exotics and then passively get the other two offensive exotic artifacts while destroying everything with your maxxed mythics.

1. Weapon
2. Ability
3. Arc

Your exotics are mainly for Calamity Ops when you need power but honestly 72K is plenty that's what current #1 score uses

[pulsar basalt]

why does an artifact need to be based on one? cant u have an artifact with any combo of weapon arc def close?

[floral isle]

ok bet ty

[uneven mirage]

fei rampaging pact or inverted fury for slot 3

[upper crane]

uhhhh rampaging pact

[uneven mirage]

got a quick question

assuming u have hellhest and u use her as ning’s light linked companion, will it proc the new artifact that gives 140% weap dmg if u meet the conditions?

so based on artifacts alone, as long as u hit 3 consecutive precision hits and trigger the ally enhanced dmg, u get 180% weap dmg (140% from new artifact, 10% from stats, 30% from bellicose)

someone tell me if i’m wrong

i don’t have hellhest yet 😭

[upper crane]

there’s new artifacts?

KILL ME

[smoky moth]

The new artifact has an incorrect description. It increases ally damage boost by +140%, not weapon damage. Helhest's light link does the same, so neither bonus would do anything unless you were in a Tan Well, or buffed by a Helhest drone for example. At least as far as I understand it. Those bonuses would scale the damage increase buff

[uneven mirage]

ah i see

what a shame honestly

[upper crane]

my 2 best pick ups so far

[cyan thicket]

Got a Godroll + Pseudo godroll

If my Valiant was Arc instead of Sig I’d have the god build

Let me see if these send

[upper crane]

rampaging pact 🤤

[cyan thicket]

Yessir, my valiant is so close

[upper crane]

im t3 so i go for bellicose

[pastel orbit]

Yh unless U have t6 bellicose is better

[upper crane]

thanQ

im working on acclaim 50 for exotic artifact upgrade

[cyan thicket]

@upper crane

[upper crane]

this will fuel my hate for weeks

i envy

well done lightbearer

[cyan thicket]

Weapon Arc Super Ability basically all T9

[upper crane]

i-

like

you have to be top 100 in the world for singularity chaos

time played

[cyan thicket]

its no

My rampaging pact did take a while yes

but this valiant was from Exotic choice chest from Expanse lol

I always used it for Valiant for godroll and I finally got it

[upper crane]

holy moly

[lean kiln]

Isnt bellicose better?

[upper crane]

not for T6

[smoky moth]

Easy Overseer runs 🔥

[cyan thicket]

Not for T6

It’s actually somewhat close in the damage. T5/T6 upgrade your super to the point where Valiant is better

Really it’s whatever has the best attributes

[cyan thicket]

I’m farmed a Nutation because of you. It drops my power but not by much I’m gonna see how it feels

[smoky moth]

Power doesn't mean anything unless you're under light for an activity anyway. Although milage for Nutation varies from Healing bonus tier, DR, etc. Hope you like it

[cyan thicket]

Correct,power over 3K the required is meaningless. I’ll see if I get over 3K the required for Calamity with Nutation.

[languid sky]

how much worse does bellicose feel at t6? i'm t4 and got a bellicose with the right attributes while farming for helhest. but don't wanna invest TOO much into it if i'm just gonna want to replace soonish

[cyan thicket]

Not much, when Zombie tested perfect Mythics of Bellicose vs Valiant at T6 it was a 1.5% DPS drop (100K less out of 7.4M damage)

I don’t have perfect mythics but I had 2 of them that had both Weapon + Arc + Vulnerability

And the damage loss was 2.5% with my rotation

The damage loss is dependent on rotation and how much you utilize slam/super. also whatever attributes and stuff you have

[languid sky]

Tytyty 🙇

[cyan thicket]

Zombie (and by extension me) do recommend Valiant as an investment. Ning is a standard unit and will never go away so if you play long enough you can T6 him.

But Blue Ships have dried up

[cyan thicket]

And that’s the nice thing about Ning + Helhest. If you get a god roll (Weapon Arc Ability Super) Bellicose, you should invest and keep it

[languid sky]

yeah was planning on handing it off to helhest when i got a valiant

[cyan thicket]

For Helhest You want Damage Bonus Boost on Bellicose if you run Axiom on 3 since it’s multiplicative bonus. But that’s getting into min-max god roll

[languid sky]

dmg bonus boost instead of super, right?

[cyan thicket]

Are you committing to Ning Fei? If you have a god roll Bellicose I’d honestly not farm for Valiant and work on other things

I’m inclined to think that at T6 :

God roll bellicose barely less than or equal too a 3/4 or pseudo godroll Valiant

[languid sky]

pretty committed. he's my highest char atm

although i don't spend energy on chaos

so it's really just a time investment

[cyan thicket]

I commitsd to Ning so I used every exotic choice chest on Valiant Veil (which honestly isn’t too smart resource management wise) but I got my god roll eventually lol I could of used all that farming time and resources to actually fix my Gwynn and Estella who are using 2/4 and 3/4s lmao

[cyan thicket]

Yep

The refractors are a energy gated though

[languid sky]

yeah it makes me sad :(

but at least they gave quite a few for the events recently

[cyan thicket]

Someone I know accidentally hit ‘use new attributes’ his artifact went from 2930 to 2650

Cause he wasn’t paying attention

[languid sky]

used them all to get my ning's weapon/arc/ability/super to t9

[languid sky]

HOLY

oh no...

[cyan thicket]

These numbers are slightly off since I did this recording with Band 2 Maha (I needed to wait for reset)

T2 to T6 is about 27% overall DPS increase

[languid sky]

i made that mistake once, but it was not NEARLY as bad. and now i pay really close attention 😅

[cyan thicket]

You’re at at T4, when you get to T5/T6 you’ll notice your super doing way more damage. It’s very noticeable

[languid sky]

yeah when i watch t6 ning calamity ops videos i'm like 🥲

but it'll prob be awhile since like you said, blue ships are nonexistent now 😭

but it's all good. i'm not aiming for overseer or anything

thanks for all the numbers and info. i feel like it's so hard to find stuff for this game sometimes 😅

[cyan thicket]

Yeh I had to use some leaves to T6 him

I just settle with T0 for the limited chars

[cyan thicket]

Yeah you gotta dig into discord and pockets of the community

[uneven halo]

I know it doesn't matter as much but I've been trying to find what defensive artifacts I like the best for Ning, the double healing setup is my current go to

[cyan thicket]

Nourishing and Heal right?

I've seen you try other defense ones like Unrelenting

[uneven halo]

Yeah, I've tested out a few but the double healing is so nice

[cyan thicket]

Yeah, having that heal on demand with a clone / slam is very nice

[upper crane]

if i have a good rolled nimble veil should i jump ship to nourishing?

mythic that is

idc about exotic until acclaim 50

[upper crane]

does anyone know if a meta shift happened?

Ning Fei artifact discussion 🧵

[cyan thicket]

Like what

[upper crane]

his best artifacts being different?

[cyan thicket]

No

Shouldn’t be

Until they release a new artifact set, Nings artis are established

You can run Axiom if you have a good Helhest but that’s conditional

[upper crane]

to the best of my knowledge it’s encouraged i keep chasing
Nourishing/healing/rampaging/bellicose? (valiant assuming t6)

[forest narwhal]

Why nourishing over nimble tho?

[upper crane]

goat

[verbal rock]

Hey guys, what do you think are the best substats for slots 1/2? wondering if I should use def/shield/health/healing or def/shield/elem/healing. I have the former matching, but only one of the latter.

I’ve also been playing around with ring of abundance and don’t think it’s much worse than nourishing pact, especially in a team setting and as a more general artifact it can be effectively shared with helhest and later arc units.

[upper crane]

i look for
defense/health/melee resistance (he’s a melee character so he’s gonna end up getting kicked in the head)

and i’d say healing if you get an exotic

@verbal rock that second paragraph is valid because slot 1/2 artifacts are less noticeable in day to day gameplay sessions than 3/4 (the real game changers)

[peak adder]

For T6 Ning what would you match with this 4/4 rampaging??? a 4/4 bellicose or a 3/4 valiant???

The valiant is just missing arc but boosts weapon enhancement to T10

[upper crane]

VALIANT

next question 😎

[peak adder]

Glad you said that, someone suggested the bellicose but I really don’t want to drop below 74k again

[upper crane]

t6 ning = valiant

[peak adder]

Although I got a faster clear in expanse with the bellicose could just be rng

[upper crane]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-cymbal-ocd-gif-5895336

yea as someone that’s ran expanse i’ve lost runs to an ad straight up hiding

[peak adder]

I’ll just keep farming for an arc valiant roll, chaos keeps throwing solar at me

[upper crane]

are you acclaim 50?

[peak adder]

I gave up on acclaim

[upper crane]

i got burnt outta 50 so i switched to growing acclaim b4 i reattempt

[peak adder]

I’m like 40 something

[upper crane]

i can’t say i blame you it’s expensive

[peak adder]

Yeah it’s taxing on brain cells

I have pretty much everyone at T6

Chaos is to much of a burn

[upper crane]

t6 everyone is crazy i wish

[vocal agate]

im at t0 what artifacts do i run?

[upper crane]

nourishing pact
healing veil
rampaging pact
bellicose planetesimal

[hidden cloak]

great info in this thread 👍🏽

[vivid gyro]

This is what I'm currently using on Nings artifact build anything I should to it beside getting better attributes for them

[upper crane]

i hear good things about both nimble veil and nourishing pact

(slot 1)

[vivid gyro]

I have him at t1 gonna try get to t2 do u think I should change some artifacts or keep with what I have currently?

[upper crane]

those look great focus on the attributes now

[vivid gyro]

Yh I also decided to change some artifacts Nimble to Nourshing pact and Belicose to Valiant veil

[uneven mirage]

i heard nimble veil was bugged

but

what do yall think of nimble veil + unrelenting evo for the first and second slot

or should i just stay with my nourishing and healing?

[vivid gyro]

Stay with Nourshing and Healing make sure u get defence and health boost attributes it is a MUST for Ning

[uneven mirage]

i was thinking

here are my current artifacts

i wanted healing instead of melee/range

that’s why i was wondering if these two are better since they got the perfect stats

[vivid gyro]

Melee is really good for Ning since he is a brawling Guardian overall really decent

[uneven mirage]

using him this expanse requires more range than melee unfortunately

[vivid gyro]

Nah its always about the perfect stats it about upgrading Nings strengths

[uneven mirage]

yep and healing sounds better than melee/range, thas why i was wondering if i should sub to these two artifacts below as they are also recommended for him yfm

[vivid gyro]

Trust just keep melee on him plus if u want the perfect stats just do this 1 and 2 focus on getting Health boost, Defence boost, Melee resistance last it can be whatever

3 and 4 Sig Ability, Arc boost, Weapon enhancement and Bonus damage/Ability damage increase

[uneven mirage]

sig boost isn’t really good on him compared to its competitors

arc boost, weap enhancement, ability, and super

all to boost mahamayuri

[vivid gyro]

Super boost is not worth it since it's a one time use every 3 rounds while Sigs can be used continuously

[vivid gyro]

Super doesn't directly boost Yuri but Sig does I think

[uneven mirage]

it doesn’t

but casting sig gives u a 12% dmg boost for 6s

[vivid gyro]

1 and 2 focus on getting Health boost, Defence boost, Melee resistance last it can be whatever. 3 and 4 Sig Ability, Arc boost, Weapon enhancement and Bonus damage/Ability damage increase just focus solely on these stats

[uneven mirage]

i dont really see how health is that good for ning

increasing max health is a bonus yet taking less dmg without a shield doesn't seem so appealing considering you will spam ur summons every 5-6 seconds for healing

compared to 50% healing effectiveness and a safety net for when ur health falls below 30%

[grand beacon]

Chat, important questions: Is Rampaging Precession better on Ning Fei than Bellicose Planetismal and if yes/no, why?

I don't see the downside of Rampaging Precession quite frankly, it sounds to me like constant 40% weapon dmg, am I missing something?

[vivid gyro]

Does it have a cooldown or reset also is it stackable?

Tbh that might actually be powerful

[grand beacon]

One of my mates suggested that this buff possibly refreshes if you swap weapons, which sounds logical

but so far untested

[grand beacon]

as you can see, no cooldown mentioned in description

idk what you mean by stackable 🙂

[vivid gyro]

Let's say u did 10 precision shot on 1 mag and then u do it on the other which give it another 40% weapon damage increase

Which continues until it hits a limit of how much % of weapon damage u can get to

[grand beacon]

I have no clue honestly

Does Bellicose stack? (that might be the key difference, one stacking, the other one not)

[vivid gyro]

Nah idk

[grand beacon]

so back to square one 😂

[vivid gyro]

Dam if only there was a way we could know?

[pulsar basalt]

rampaging precession test (t4)
perk promises +32% dmg after landing 10 hits
base 1053, 1448 head. base 1713, 3082 head
shoot light reload shoot success ✅ 1325 1821 (+25.8% +25.8%)
shoot heavy reload shoot success ✅ 2154 3878 (+25.8% +25.8%)
shoot 8 wait shoot 4 reload success ✅
shoot reload wepswap fail ❌
shoot reload wepswap wepswap back fail ❌
shoot reload ability shoot success ✅
hit with abilities reload shoot fail ❌

[pulsar basalt]

tl;dr rampaging procession gives less than promised, does work for infinite duration but does remove if u wep swap

[vivid gyro]

Thx for info and ur dedication to helping the Ning community

[grand beacon]

absolute chad, thank you for your contribution

[ruby anvil]

chat dr or healing for ning fei

[vivid gyro]

Dr?

Do u mean Nimble Veil?

[ruby anvil]

yes

[vivid gyro]

Wdym by that?

[ruby anvil]

no i mean is it better to go for damage resistence instead of healing

bc i think his summons do healing

[vivid gyro]

Oh then yh Damage resistance it is