#Gwynn artifact discussion 🧵

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jagged hazel
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i have 4 mythics (pictured above) that i’m happy with but i’d love to hear what other people think about alternate artifacts AND or attributes

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i plan on hunting for both recovery and void boost as i hunt for exotics

round linden
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Am I gonna have to post mine when I'm back in game?

livid topaz
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I’m not super convinced on super boost tbh I normally cancel super after the initial swing to do damage with weapons

jagged hazel
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i heard someone talking about jolted transit having portions of the perk which stack up to 60+ but i haven’t received confirmation so idc

jagged hazel
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i think slot 3 / 4 can be reasonably discussed but i don’t think i’m changing slots 1 / 2

jagged hazel
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Gwynn artifact discussion 🧵

livid topaz
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Yeah what I’m going for on 3/4 on both of my final two for that

jagged hazel
livid topaz
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Only actual artifact changes I have compared to you resolute in 1 and courageous in 3 but I don’t think it matters much in the grand scheme of things

jagged hazel
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i’ll dm i guess

livid topaz
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Just felt the take -35% damage in close range was better for me then the improved healing and overshield

jagged hazel
livid topaz
jagged hazel
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which just seems miserable

livid topaz
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Here is my artifacts atm not the best as grinding remains a slog

round linden
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Here's what I'm running. Not the best I know. But works for me. (I don't have discord on the phone I play on so it's a photo)

round linden
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Crowther....

loud moon
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I hope this channel grows

vast bear
woven rose
vast bear
woven rose
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And courageous is better unless you are t0 in 3rd slot

vast bear
loud moon
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Try ring of courage if your T6 basically 100% uptime on the 20% damage bonus. I’m using it untill I get a G Roll bellicose

vast bear
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this is my build since we build sharing

vast bear
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heals a lower amount than stated, it’s a big reason why i’m in the other thread discussing gwynns artifacts

vast bear
jagged hazel
loud moon
vast bear
# jagged hazel

if you’re T6 i believe you could swap out your third slot for belicose veil

vast bear
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higher damage buff and easier to focus it into your void dance

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T2 Offers a second TP charge and belicose veil gives 77% damage buff to your next ability after casting a movement ability

jagged hazel
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i heard super attribute was cope cuz ppl are animation cancelling

vast bear
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no cooldown from what i seen and it does work on the void orbs too

vast bear
# jagged hazel i heard super attribute was cope cuz ppl are animation cancelling

super attribute isnt the most important stat, people ARE ult canceling for Higher burst DPS in the current raid because of Gwynn’s T1 ability. However in a longer damage phase (for example day one raids where you’re under power) you may not want to cancel super as all of her damage is split evenly between her abilities, super and weapon damage

loud moon
jagged hazel
vast bear
vast bear
vast bear
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in harder content i cant imagine super damage being that vital to a clear that you would need rolls with super boost

vast bear
loud moon
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Is anyone here in calamity overseer btw? For her shotty roll I’m really struggling to kill the impact boss shinka on my own. I 85d auto loading and karmic roll because I love auto loading in expanse. But I just got the exotic mod for firing line and have the FR KR g roll too but not 85. Just wondering what everyone else’s experience is so far.

vast bear
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if i remember correctly in calamity ops aren’t more gwynn’s than usual using the exotic shotty?

loud moon
vast bear
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just double checked and they are not using the exotic shotty

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i have no advice as i’m currently trying to get my gwynn above 70k power so i can get out of expert 1 </3

jagged hazel
jagged hazel
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2 shotties?

vast bear
loud moon
# vast bear NA

I have a few spare attempts left was gunna offer a carry 🫠

vast bear
vast bear
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but if you struggle to kill ads to proc cadenza i could also see an argument for something like duo loader too

loud moon
vast bear
loud moon
vast bear
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i keep forgetting about the exotic mods because my unlucky ass hasnt gotten a matching mod </3

loud moon
vast bear
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is that slight zoom i see?

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you should trash it, give it to me i’ll dispose of it

loud moon
vast bear
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i’ve gotten spread mods the last three times i ran it…

round linden
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"No I did not stop for death. He kindly stopped for me. The carriage held but ourselves. And immortality"

round linden
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"Come, my blade thirsts for blood"

jagged hazel
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the super stat seems like cope so i switched to void boost but i dont have a maxed out stat yet so idk how it’ll feel and im missing the artifact i want in slot 1 so i wont be running expanse again until i have an artifact setup im happy with

jagged hazel
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i don’t see how courageous planetesimal even comes close to vigilant planetesimal or bellicose veil

runic bobcat
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Are you teleporting + swapping from concerto -> shotgun and dumping + spin at 6 orbs

woven rose
runic bobcat
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My build btw at T1

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Binging is trash. It heals off the base damage which is nothing lol.

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You are better off being a little more micro manage on picking up orbs than relying on Binging Heals

jagged hazel
runic bobcat
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You have no idea how glad am I to finally finish the exotic mods. The first 2 Exotic mods were drops. I had to spend 2 Exotic Choice mod for Karmic though 😦

jagged hazel
# runic bobcat

are there dps comparisons for line formation and conjugation i’ve heard arguments for both

loud moon
# runic bobcat

Gratz!!! I just need GM keys to 85 that roll, I improved my Strat my shinka was a breeze we are like 31 in our overseer server.

jagged hazel
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new wishlist

runic bobcat
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Not that I know of. You have to compare Conjuction vs Line Formation with its exotic perk

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I would imagine the rapid fire bonus + 2 extra shells in the mag would let you do more DPS than a 20% damage bonus of the base

jagged hazel
runic bobcat
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The extra 2 shells are buffed by Karmic Reward as well. Mythic perks are damage boost to the base damage of the gun. It’s not multiplicative like we intuitively think

jagged hazel
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i just gotta wait for the line formation roll to drop ig

runic bobcat
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If I have enough time + get the right rolls I can test Conjuction vs Exotic Line Formation within 1 reload

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But I’m currently testing things for Ning

jagged hazel
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ning is busted i don’t blame you

runic bobcat
# jagged hazel ning is busted i don’t blame you

Yeah I have him built, I’m just data gathering with random stuff like how much of an increase Band 2-> Band 3 on Maha is.

Are his talent boost upgrades accurate (cause you can’t trust anything in this game with broken, bugged or poorly worded effect)

How much DPS increase does each talent give

His damage pie to help decision make on Artifact and attribute choices etc

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All tested in a 20 second window to mirror Issaki

jagged hazel
round linden
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I'm trying to break into top 100 of uk.... need more power

jagged hazel
runic bobcat
jagged hazel
runic bobcat
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I have both Ning and Gywn to try

jagged hazel
jagged hazel
livid topaz
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Managed to hit top 5 uk lets go

jagged hazel
livid topaz
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Top 2 Scotland top 5 uk top 50 server

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Oh if it’s expanse we were talking about I’m still only like top 10 Scotland unranked uk only ran it once for all the chests might do it again too

jagged hazel
livid topaz
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It does have a nice title too

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And I did die twice in my first run and still got sub 7 mins so I guess it’s worth checking how fast I can actually do it

jagged hazel
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i find the challenge enjoyable on top of the cosmetics

livid topaz
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What’s annoying for the power leaderboards now I’m at the point that my only power increases is via refactor

round linden
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I'm changing to Wales in 18 days šŸ˜†

vast bear
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isnt that how you got T6?

round linden
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I did the founders bundles to T6 Gwynn. Plus leaves and fortuna crystals get LE ships

vast bear
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niceee, i was trying to make a joke but it didnt end well lol

round linden
vast bear
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makes sense, hard to understand tone through text

round linden
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Tbf my humour can get a little.... dark

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So close to 72k now. Just need expanse to reset probably twice.. and 2 more concerto drops for C3 on my catalyst.

jagged hazel
round linden
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I've logged out the game now. Only so much fishing and non pinnacle stuff I can do

round linden
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Plus didn't go to bed until 2am last night. This reaper is tired and it's showing with response time

round linden
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My concerto

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I have the photons now. But not the 2 other dupes or the cores

jagged hazel
round linden
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Artifact guilding.... one more but need a few resources

distant viper
loud moon
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This absolute beauty dropped

hybrid ravine
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No weapon enhance rip

distant viper
loud moon
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Super is prob the best second in slot but these are g tier attributes, Im just happy I finally got a good bellicose to try out

hybrid ravine
hybrid ravine
loud moon
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Your right

hybrid ravine
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The game dont want to give me 3 or 4 slot artefacts haha

round linden
hybrid ravine
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Yeah or some random bs what nobody wants

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The good thing is we can still lvl up the right one and give good attributes later when a good one drops

round linden
hybrid ravine
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I can only get higher throught artefacts im 73.760

round linden
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71280 something. Still need to C3 concerto as well

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I'm not logged in. Having a slower day in Destiny Rising

jagged hazel
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dude INSANE pickup today

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ignore the attribute score i’m poor it’ll raise in time

round linden
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I'm at 71288. Logged in to check. But I'm pinnacle saving today

scarlet valley
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So what Are we Running in 3rd and 4th Slot
Which Attributes For T6?

jagged hazel
scarlet valley
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Okay thanks* will try it out

jagged hazel
indigo garden
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Hate the fact I have yet to get a void attribute on a god roll 3rd and 4th artifact. Would much rather have that than both with super boostšŸ˜µā€šŸ’«

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Praying I hit the right attribute tomorrow on my attribute rolls to possibly get #1 Gwynn na

round linden
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92nd Gwynn in England

livid topaz
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Didnt manage to get top 50 Emea sad

Will need to probs spend a bunch of refactoring to get it

round linden
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I only care about regional. I still got to finish guilding, and finish concerto catalyst as well

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Though I might change from England to my revive location of Wales

livid topaz
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I was kinda hoping to be no1 Scotland but that guy seems even more invested in Gwynn then me by a long shot considering the emea placements

round linden
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They will max out soon. Unless they did GM to go to 85.... I would if they let me use Gwynn. My estela just makes power but gets destroyed

livid topaz
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I’m at 85 on both guns at 73560 and ranked 55 emea he is at 27th emea so imma guess I’ll need to do like a bunch of refactors if I want that placement which is a waste since power doesn’t matter above a certain point

round linden
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85 don't matter as it be reset to 80 at seasons end its why I'm reluctant to do it.

loud moon
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G Roll or nah?

jagged hazel
amber river
jagged hazel
vast bear
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if you’re bursting shinkas: It’s amazing yes. If you’re doing boss damage or any prolonged amount of damage it sadly begins to fall off

vast bear
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i’d go courageous planetisimal for boss DPS as the 18% damage buff affects her shorgun along with her ability on top of having higher uptime, another good option would be ring of courage for a 20% damage buff for all the same upsides as the one previously stated

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in boss damage scenarios her shotgun is an important part of her DPS so you’d want to upgrade that for a higher impact as the 18/20% general buff would get more mileage than a 77% buff that is used once (twice if you have T2)

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i suppose maybe valient veil in slot 4 could make up for the weapon damage buff though

amber river
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Yea im playing courageous too , stack x10 and for sustained damage better

jagged hazel
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hardstuck 69k with fully leveled mythic artifactsšŸ’”

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˙◠˙

round linden
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It's exotic time then

round linden
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"It looks nice, like death itself"

jagged hazel
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Mine are way off still

jagged hazel
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all good

jagged hazel
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@round linden

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i see u lurkin

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cmon lad out with it

round linden
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"Uh huh" I'm definitely saving pinnacle so I can do hellhest quest....

jagged hazel
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i have like 45 L E charms saved and i’m hoping i can t6 umeko and ikora

round linden
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Finished catching all the fishes though

jagged hazel
round linden
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Got 18LE saved but I may have to spend money

jagged hazel
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and a mythic skin for gwynn and ning and i want the one for Jolder

round linden
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Not fussed about stuff for ning or jolder

jagged hazel
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ew 1 sec

round linden
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I'm always lurking in the shadows. Taking souls and digging holes.

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I've got all of Gwynns stuff. Hopefully they will add more

jagged hazel
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i’m sorry for spamming i’m a visual person it was pissing me off

round linden
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Lol

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I get that

jagged hazel
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i really like the umeko skin but that was bright dust so i don’t know if that counts

round linden
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Oh I have all the bright dust ones

jagged hazel
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i think i bought the ikora one

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my favorite color is green
then purple
then black
then yellow
no i’m not giving a top 5

round linden
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Mines Green too. Dark greens. Then black and purple. It's a goth thing šŸ˜†

jagged hazel
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dude are you messin with me

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are you mirroring me or are we just tapped in like that

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/srs im pretty autistic

round linden
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So am I.... highly. I love trains and dinosaurs

jagged hazel
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i love frogs

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and lego i think i have some destiny mega blood stuff

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i wear the expensive wolf skin but i don’t rank it top 3 it’s aight

round linden
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I've got destiny books, couple of figures and t shirts.

jagged hazel
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dude i love the destiny books

round linden
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Oh and so, so many copies of D1 and D2

jagged hazel
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i have like 6 i will be keeping them till i die and passing them down

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REAL

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dude you’re awesome i mess with ya

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dude can we vc and i show u me and my brothers room some time?

round linden
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I've got the art books, comic and cookbook too

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Do a private one and sure.

jagged hazel
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lego room

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sorry i didn’t mean it to sound creepy

round linden
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You'll see a lot of trains, dinosaurs, games and a long haired person lol

jagged hazel
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my brothers the dino guy

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dude i’m so proud of him he’s worked at world renound museums and he’s been on digs and stuff i can get him in the call some time and you can chop it up if you like

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he loves movies tho you gotta have your like top 3 ready to go

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he’s the most autistic undiagnosed person i’ve ever met

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he’s loved them since he was like 3

round linden
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Lol. Nice. Jurassic park, Serenity, Star Wars revenge of the sith

jagged hazel
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dude don’t get him started on JP he’s re watched like hundreds of times

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there’s like one specific niche dino movie he loves

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the disney one

round linden
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So have I, should here me say whats wrong with all them

jagged hazel
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dude THIS ONE

round linden
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Got it on vhs and blu ray lol

jagged hazel
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vhs dude my family are physical media DEMONS

round linden
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So am I. I love physical media

jagged hazel
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i wanna collect records but it feels basic

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are the destiny soundtracks on vinyl?

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hollup

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the answers yes dude that would be a vibe

round linden
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Both useless now

jagged hazel
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like do they work as art books?

round linden
jagged hazel
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i miss wanting to GET ON THE GAME DAMN

round linden
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Attal, cook me things in this. Instead of Roast Chicken, honey glazed ham, pumpkin pasties and cranberry sauce....

jagged hazel
round linden
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That's Maru yes

jagged hazel
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what do we think her period is?

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sorry

round linden
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"No, I did not stop for death. He kindly stopped for me. The carriage held but ourselves. And immortality"

jagged hazel
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i meant primary

round linden
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No idea. I didn't play the alpha or beta

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Memento morti

round linden
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One concerto dupe down, one more to go for C3

distant viper
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I’m on the fence as to whether I go for c3 on concerto

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Gwynn feels so lacklustre now

jagged hazel
round linden
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It's kinda my thing. And say that to the poor fireteam I was in doing strikes earlier, even not trying I was still mvp

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She's my chosen lightbearer. One that suits me down go the ground. And the best ghost

vast bear
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if it’s any better, c3 on concerto is a nice damage buff

round linden
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I will find out in a week or so....

round linden
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My favourite too. I'll main Gwynn until EoS. Its who I'm comfortable using. A nice aggressive warlock... which is a bit like my play style in D1/D2... just wish I had a scythe in them

vast bear
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fr, once i seen she had a scythe i was locked innn

round linden
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Plus I am a goth, though I don't wear all the make up anymore lol only for Halloween parties 🤪 as its only time I can get away with it.

livid topaz
round linden
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Shiny shark.

jagged hazel
vast bear
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lmao yea, i just hit 73k today by getting it

round linden
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"I hear it, deaths footsteps"

jagged hazel
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i’m all mythic artifacts and 1 85 weapon hardstuck 69k ˙◠˙

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MAXXED exotic and i can’t hit 70

round linden
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I have exotic artifacts. Neither weapon are 85, as currently I can't use gwynn in gm. My Estela barely makes power.

jagged hazel
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i’m trying to power level ning for gms

round linden
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I really don't like using hunters and cba grinding chaos for arc artifacts. Unless I do them for Attal

jagged hazel
worthy sundial
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is this a decent setup for gwynn idk why it takes me ages to kill shinka in calamity open for suggestions

jagged hazel
worthy sundial
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im watching a clip of a gwynn he kills the shinka with 11 bullets while mine takes ages to get killed

jagged hazel
worthy sundial
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and some says veil is too situational

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its driving me nuts

jagged hazel
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when ppl say bellicose veil is situational they’re talking about swapping to courageous or abundant

worthy sundial
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would you change anything on what i have to deal with shinkas?

jagged hazel
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i run ability/signature/void and weapon enhancement if exotic

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her abilities are better than weapons

worthy sundial
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i mean artifact wise

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would you replace anythin?

jagged hazel
# jagged hazel

this is my wishlist and this is what i run currently and it feels alright

round linden
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I'm still running these. But goy exotic Binging and Courageous but need the material to Reroll them so they are higher

jagged hazel
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@worthy sundial slot 1 and 2 are for survivability they aren’t as important as 3 and 4

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she’s dps not support

vast bear
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power level and i suppose the recommended power level for calamity ops is what’s important

worthy sundial
vast bear
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ok definitely shouldn’t be a power issue

round linden
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Nearly 72k

worthy sundial
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im watching zombie team runs from gwynn POV and guy murderes the shinka in 11 bullets

round linden
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I need that 3rd concerto.... then c3

jagged hazel
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take a look at those 5 and see what suits your playstyle best

vast bear
worthy sundial
worthy sundial
vast bear
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ok well if you’re directly comparing to calamity ops #1 then the problem lies in the fact T5 makes each void orb deal 50% more damage so thats probably where a majority of her ā€œspeedā€ is coming from

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each orb individually doing 120k… each pellet doing 14k

jagged hazel
jagged hazel
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but he’s t6 keep in mind

worthy sundial
jagged hazel
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the pov is on youtube to avoid confusion

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he uses courageous 3 rampaging 4

round linden
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T6 unite!!

vast bear
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so here’s a fun little discovery, the reason zayam is hitting 14k per pellet on shinka’s is because stunned impact shinka’s take triple damage from at least shotguns

worthy sundial
worthy sundial
vast bear
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if your 73k power then your cadenza must have C3… The only logical answer would be your artifacts would be the best guess considering that’s the only thing that’s different between you two

worthy sundial
vast bear
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duo loader could make it easier to constantly re-proc karmic reward?

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since you have to hit the same target consecutively without reloading i believe

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but other than max concerto and weapon mastery i can’t think of any places gwynn gets weapon damage besides artifacts

worthy sundial
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i got two weapon damage on artifact but idk feels hella weak still

jagged hazel
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the artifact grind is LONG

round linden
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"When I died, I heard the buzzing of flies. The room fell silent, like the air suddenly calming down in the midst of a storm"

jagged hazel
round linden
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I'm quoting again šŸ˜† 🤣

jagged hazel
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i figured i was just excited to share

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the expanse leaderboard title is perfect for gwynnAnticipate

round linden
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I'm too slow lol

jagged hazel
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it’s alright twin

round linden
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I just can't clear the GM either without my gwynn...

jagged hazel
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i assume it’s a gacha thing but it feels bad to build a character and not be able to use them

round linden
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GM resets after maintenance to hopefully.

round linden
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"Uh huh"

jagged hazel
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@round linden top 20 in the nation😈

round linden
jagged hazel
round linden
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"All lives are equal before death"

jagged hazel
round linden
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I dm you what lol

round linden
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I did not stop for death, he kindly stopped for me. The carriage held but ourselves. And immortality

round linden
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Issakics done, finally.

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And this dropped

jagged hazel
vast bear
round linden
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Yay more chaos farming....

round linden
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Greetings Guardians, my name is Gwynn here. Plans for weekend?

jagged hazel
nimble mural
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yo guys, does anyone know if Inverted Fury works on gwynn? i'm confused about "shielded" cuz it's not the same as overshield i guess

jagged hazel
round linden
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"When I died, I heard the buzzing of flies..."

amber river
round linden
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"None may sin before me"

nimble mural
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thanks for the info guys

jagged hazel
round linden
limber portal
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@vague comet

round linden
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Concerto done... now to do the grindy reroll on artifacts. There's one more guilding to go too... but the expanse isn't for me this rotation. (Estela and Attal on 64k and 63k).

And I've not level 85 my weapons either.

round linden
round linden
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I really hate artifact rerolling so resource wasting

hybrid ravine
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Thats mine

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Ignore the arrow, was for something else

jagged hazel
# hybrid ravine

dang ur goated. i dont keep exotic artifacts cuz im picky asf im grinding acclaim for the boost rn

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next lark
jagged hazel
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jagged hazel
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jagged hazel
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real

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do hundreds of rounds (i’m not kidding)

round linden
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Till out of pinnacle and get like 1 or 2 proficiency without it lol šŸ˜†

vast bear
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help, they removed impact shinka’s from calamity ops and now i’m playing a completely different game🄲

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vast bear
jagged hazel
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real

round linden
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I really, really hate rerolling artifacts

jagged hazel
jagged hazel
round linden
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I can't finger this out. Artifact I put on has less power but I've gained overall power....

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It's blowing my warlock brain.

Shut it Crowther

livid topaz
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i have achieved my goal

round linden
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I'm currently 50th in England...

livid topaz
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england is rough

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wales seems easy

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livid topaz
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top in england is top 10 in the server im only top 30

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so top wales is top 12 all of uk top england is top uk and im 2nd uk so yeah i think wales is a good bet for the leaderboards also is thematic

round linden
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I haven't 85 my weapons and tbh can't see the point when it goes back to 80

livid topaz
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i get that but tbh its not a hard material to get so i dont mind it

round linden
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It is if you put everything into one character lol. Estela for solar is now 66k. But stage 21... dead

amber river
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amber river
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I think something around 2900?

round linden
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OK some ain't far off at 2810 but it's what 9 rolls

ebon portal
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i think the luck goes up to 15

round linden
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I've got 9 luck atm on mine

ebon portal
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highest points is 440 idk what that is artifact power wise

amber river
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runic bobcat
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500 runs??

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Dude it cost 30 refractor to get +10 LMAOO

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2800->3000 600 refractor materials

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There NEEDs to be a way to convert those rocks man

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Make it like 100 Mythical Rocks -> 1 Refractor PELASEEEE

round linden
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Or buy them from Xur for strange coins

jagged hazel
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does anyone know if a meta shift happened?

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Gwynn artifact discussion 🧵

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Gwynn artifact discussion 🧵

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Gwynn artifact discussion 🧵

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Gwynn artifact discussion 🧵

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Gwynn artifact discussion 🧵

round linden
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I have no idea.

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I'm still rerolling what I have šŸ˜†

bleak lark
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Is there a list or suggestion I can save to farm for her artifacts? I’ve just been using whatever I can most power from so I have bad bonuses like 20% movement when shield breaks 🤢

jagged hazel
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Artifact guilding is done!!!!

jagged hazel
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Just got to reroll to 3000 each.... urgh

hybrid ravine
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I was a gwynn main Nr.7 in germany and idk rank 20 on server or so but gwynn is kinda useless at the moment

hybrid ravine
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Nice reaction then tell me where und can use her rn

jagged hazel
hybrid ravine
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I didnt start anything. I told u her kind of state atm. Take it or leave it.

livid topaz
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livid topaz
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Yeah just the refactoring is thousands of pinnacle energy

jagged hazel
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and it’s thousands in pinnacle energy for legendary campaign resources too it’s rough šŸ’”

round linden
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Bump

round linden
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@twin jewel The artifacts I currently running. Not the best

jagged hazel
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That's only 2 I liked.

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@livid topaz what's happened to your Gwynn? Other then 85 weapons gone??

livid topaz
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thats it iirc just messing about with maru atm

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still first scotland 9th england

round linden
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I'm stilling number 1 in Wales atm. 7th uk

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My artifacts still a way off 3000 though. Those attribute things messed one up power wise when I stripped arc and put void in

livid topaz
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yeah reason i probs fell behind is i stopped refactoring was just a massive amount of effort i only cared about scotland anyway

round linden
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The former number 1 in Wales hasn't logged on yet I don't think or used gwynn. So it's fleeting at 1. But I think it was like 10 power in it.

twin whale
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So has anyone tested whether the new solar shotgun (Thermopylae) is better than eternal retribution for Gwynn?

next lark
# twin whale So has anyone tested whether the new solar shotgun (Thermopylae) is better than ...

I did some basic tests using a karmic+fraternity thermo vs karmic+line, removed my mods with void damage, removed companion buffs, no Cadenza stacks and the total damage for empty mag were pretty close (even with my ER being lv85 vs lv80 Thermo). But then ER wins if you factor the void damage from artifacts, void bonus from Ikora and line formation being just superior when you need to dump your mag in a short time window.

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I think it's nice to have no, even if it's just for elemental rotations, but I'll keep using my ER most of time.

sick kernel
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line formation > double loader?

next lark
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Yes, especially if you run Concerto for refill on swap.

sick kernel
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ok i see thank u

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in what situation would dual loader be better

twin whale
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Thanks heaps.

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# sick kernel in what situation would dual loader be better

I can only see dual loader being better if for some reason you have no ads and can't build 4 cadenza to swap dump >swap-reload>dump again with line formation and need to minimize reload time on a damage phase. I've seen some Gwynn run that combo on expanse, but tbh I'm still not convinced it was worth it over line formation anyway.