✧ Tan-2's Artifact Guide for Destiny: Rising ✧

[severe lintel]

Hello everyone, and welcome to Tan-2’s Guide for Artifacts in Destiny: Rising!
I know the system is very confusing for most players, and trying to find the best setups for your characters can be a bit frustrating when things are, well…all over the place. But, with this guide, you’ll be able to manage & farm your artifacts, know which stats are the best for your characters, and learn their synergies as well. So without further ado, let’s get into it!

First off, what are Artifacts? Artifacts are socketables that you are able to place onto your characters, granting buffs and set bonuses that contribute to your character’s relic abilities, alter your kit to benefit you or your fireteam’s playstyle, and increase your power the further you upgrade them. You may obtain artifacts through the Realm of the IX Rogue like activities called Singularity. There’s three types of Singularity game modes listed here:

• Singularity: Order is a 10 floor gamemode granting you your first set of artifacts, which may only be claimed once per floor completion.

• Singularity: Chaos is an infinite gamemode granting you artifacts and other rewards. (Note, you have a higher artifact gain when you use Pinnacle Energy on the reward boxes, but they are not required to get artifacts, as they are available to be farmed without energy.)

• The Expanse: An Endgame gamemode requiring you to push through 20 floors of increasing difficulty in order to gain artifacts and other rewards. Clearing floor 20 will guarantee you an Exotic Artifact of your choice. This resets weekly as rewards may only be claimed once per week. You may only do the 1-10 floors and 11-20 floors with a specific challenge modifier, in which will have its own elemental enemies, shinkas, and recommended characters that should be used to deal with the shinkas of their corresponding type.

Once you obtain an artifact, it will come in one of 4 rarities: Rare, Legendary, Mythic, or Exotic. All Rare, Legendary, and Mythic artifacts are wearable on any character no matter their element, but Exotic artifacts may only be placed on the specific elemental character type since those artifacts either drop in Arc, Solar, or Void.
All Artifacts are different in terms of their Set Bonuses, as well as come randomly rolled with Perks and Attribute Stats that all provide different benefits to your characters, in which:

• Rare artifacts can only have 1 Perk
• Legendary artifacts can only have 2 Perks
• Mythic artifacts can only have 3 Perks
• Exotic artifacts can only have 4 Perks
• All artifacts come with 3 Attributes: Health, Shield, and Defense

There are many Perks for Artifacts that are randomly chosen for each one as they drop. There’s 19 of them in total, in which if you’d like to see the full breakdown of all of the perks, their stat levels, and what they provide, you can open your character page, go to the artifacts section, and click the 3 bar icon underneath the perks given by your equipped artifacts. An image here shows the icon.

There are also many set bonuses for Artifacts that are specific to the exact artifact you get. Each artifact has its own name to differentiate the set bonuses that they have. In this image here, you can see 4 different artifacts. All 4 of them have different unique effects that are provided to the character when you have them equipped. You can get to this section by clicking the brief slider to switch it to detailed.

Your priority with artifact grinding is to find the specific artifact with the set bonus you desire, and build around that artifact with it synergizing to your character’s kit. With perks being randomly rolled, you also want to look out for which perks you specifically want to have on those artifacts. The more of a specific perk you have on your artifacts, the higher the perk will be in stat levels, granting you more of an advantage to your character.

Artifacts are also broken down into specific categories depending on what their set bonuses are:

• Any artifact that contributes to your healing and defense will be under the Healing Category
• Any artifact that contributes to your overshield will be under the Overshield Category
• Any artifact that contributes to your damage/defensive/healing abilities will be under the Ability Category
• Any artifact that contributes to your movement abilities will be under the Movement Category
• Any artifact that contributes to your affection by debuffs will be under the Status Category
• Any artifact that contributes to any source of damage will be under the Survival Category
  And lastly
• Any artifact that contributes to your Shinkas will be under the respective Shinka Category: Spread, Impact, Rapid-Fire, or Piercing

All of the artifacts are also broken down into 4 slots. These slots will be where you can equip these artifacts and find which specific set bonus is available for that slot. An image here shows the Artifact Perk Archive, which showcases the slots, the artifacts, and their set bonuses. (These also show which characters the set bonuses will contribute to most.) This may also be found in-game in the artifact section, and clicking the book icon next to Dismantle after clicking on an equipped artifact.

When it comes to Upgrading Artifacts, they all take specific materials depending on the level of the artifact. The materials you would need to level artifacts are:

• Artifactual Dust (Rare)

• A Heap of Artifactual Dust (Legendary)

• Pile of Artifactual Dust (Mythic)

• Artifactual Essence (Mythic)

• These materials are obtained through Singularity: Chaos, or dismantling Artifacts
  These materials will be used in 3 different sections of your upgrade section:

• Artifact refractor: This section is to polish your artifact to gain a higher stat boost for perks. Perk values are random and may only be upgraded through this system. When using the artifact refractor, you will have luck that builds up whilst rolling for higher stats. The higher your stats get, the more luck you’d need to guarantee a stat % boost. If you get a stat % boost that grants you more power from your artifact, your luck will reset to 0 and you will either need to luck out, or reach the luck cap to guarantee the upgrade.

• Enhance: This is the basic enhancing process to upgrade your artifact’s level, giving you more of a perk boost without changing their stat % boost placement.

• Attribute Transfer: This section is to transfer the Top and Last perks you wish to replace on your main artifact with an artifact of the exact same type and set bonus. You cannot use a different artifact to grab perks from. An image of all sections is included below as reference.

Artifacts may also be upgraded further through a system called Gilding, which is unlocked after you finish the campaign and unlock the acclaim system. Gilding is basically a skill tree to further enhance all of your artifact’s power and 3 main attribute stats. These use Elemental Fruits (obtained as a reward along with artifacts in Singularity: Chaos and The Expanse), and Artifactual Clusters (obtained as a reward along with artifacts and elemental fruits in The Expanse Seasonal). The Green Side of the tree requires Void Fruits, Yellow side Solar Fruits, and blue side Arc Fruits. When you see a skill point with 2 colors, then that node will require both elemental fruits to activate it, with the very middle requiring all 3. This tree is separate to all characters, so make sure to invest fully into the character you wish to main first to prevent a major loss in materials for upgrading. You can get to the Gilding tree buy clicking the XI circle icon next to your artifact power, shown here via this image, including the tree itself.

And with that, this concludes the Artifact Guide. I hope this guide fully broke down everything in detail, as well as gave you the confidence to build your characters the way you wish to do so with the correct artifact synergy to their kits. If you have any questions, feedback, etc, feel free to leave any comments you have here in this thread! Until next time Guardians!

[covert cobalt]

Yo

What are the best for tan-2? I see plenty of artifacts that benefit on him for damage resistance and only few are dmg boosting and they tend to be pretty specific for him

[severe lintel]

Imo this setup is the one I’m running that I find the best for Tan-2.

[covert cobalt]

I don't get the upright vengeance. There is no duration, so I guess it considers the amount of hp max-hp current for the dmg boost, so I don't understand why using on Tan-2 that basically heals himself a lot

[severe lintel]

It’s more of a benefit in endgame content than in easier content. With Phosphorus always healing you if you have the relic ability to level 4/5 and insane uptime as long as you get precision hits, you will be able to constantly heal whilst taking a ton of damage. Most of the time the dot barely keeps you alive, so you fluctuate between under 80%-50% health at all times, granting between 32%-20% of a damage boost when you’re playing through content. You also only want to use your healing nade once to grant phosphorus, then just get precision hits, only recasting the heal nade when your timer hits 0, which only happens when there’s no enemies to proc it off of. In easier content, yes, you may replace it with any other artifact that grants more damage, but this artifact is all dependent on how you play with it as a utility, and there’s no duration + cooldown with it.

[covert cobalt]

Oh I get your point

[severe lintel]

You’re also able to stack this with the damage well so you can have a heal dot on top of massive dmg boosting, instead of needing to switch to your healing well

So in the raid for example I tend to drop my heal nade, switch to my other ability, cast well for more damage, and just dps the crit spot to keep phosphorus up

[covert cobalt]

Tbf, you can swap mode while shooting anyway

[covert cobalt]

Btw, do you think that borealis is a good choice for tan-2 or kinda wasted since we have izanagi droppable already?

[hidden goblet]

I used borealis for my first clear. I made sure I broke a vandals shield with it before the boss dps bit to get 5 extra damage shots felt like it made a difference when I was lower power

[covert cobalt]

Yeah, but that's like a pretty niche situation and might be a pain in the ass for

[hidden goblet]

Not really. I have it set to void take out the shield of vandals that drop cannons then I don’t need to use it again until dps phase. It retains the bonus damage until 5 sniper shots are used so you can easily have it set up

Don’t get me wrong I wouldn’t use it like that everywhere but for 3rd encounter raid it’s fine

[covert cobalt]

Simply because that specific encounter in dmg phase it has enemies with shields with the boss.

[hidden goblet]

Yh but you can do that in any boss encounter there is usually some adds with shields pop the shield it auto reloads and then whale on boss and repeat

[covert cobalt]

Well, but would you even use Borealis if you get Izanagi?

[tardy stream]

I thought upright was 4% per 10% missing hp. is it 4% every time you lose 10% permanently?

[hidden goblet]

No lol

[covert cobalt]

Then no point to get Borealis if already replaceable

[hidden goblet]

Hmm

I might actually if I’m in content that has lots of adds with different shields

[severe lintel]

Former is true, but you generally are always the low health range even with phosphorus on you in endgame content so you have about a 15-30% fluctuating DMG buff at all times

[brisk spruce]

Do we know if “Health” is including shields or just the health bar? The game seems to be pretty consistent with saying Health vs Shields and I worry that Upright Vengeance only applies to health, not Health+Shield

[severe lintel]

It’s tied to your health bar, in which it’s hard to say how it affects any sources granting more health quantities to you. I’d need to test this out later this week.

[brisk spruce]

In Destiny 2 at least, health was your red bar and shield was your blue bar. Rn on Destiny Rising, my Jolder has 589 health and 1186 shield. If the artifact only applies to the health portion of the bar, it would be kinda useless. Excited to hear about your tests!

[mental garden]

id say if it is that uncertain if its only for health or the whole bar then wouldnt Inverted Fury be better overall anyway? its an up to 30% dmg bonus just for beeing shielded. it just doesnt buff our abilities but i feel that the sniper dmg is the majority

[severe lintel]

True, I'll find out later

[mental garden]

i also just tested out Talisman of Inspiration and it seems to work with the passive heal of Phosphorous so its a 100% uptime 18% buff at tier 5 which seems insane

[remote galleon]

Im testing out Inverted Fury in the Range

I have an overshield but the damge buff doesnt seem to work?

I have ring of conversion too

[mental garden]

inverted fury doesnt need overshield its just your regular shield

[remote galleon]

Does Ring Of Conversion not count?

Ohhhh

[remote galleon]

I see, well theres no way to hurt yourslef in the range sadly. Im trying to test Inverted Fury vs Calming Token

and I tested with dogcrap quality and subs as well and Calming Token has always outdamaged inverted

[mental garden]

yeah it definitely should with the higher dmg increase its just that maybe we cant always stand still but its definitely a good bonus

[remote galleon]

For sure, for damage phases on boss and stuff is where I'm thinking

To do as much DPS as possible in that Window

Thank Lyzzar

[mental garden]

ty too gotta check out some calming token farming!

[remote galleon]

Why icant i send images wtf...

But Im running :
BulWark Token
Ring Of Conversion
Calming Token
Ring Of Vengene(subject to change idk whats better)

I guess if I'm running a Ring Of Conversion build it would be Ring of reflection

[mental garden]

Im more on the side of Unrelenting Token for the second since im not hipfireing and its a nice damage reduction

[remote galleon]

That's a valid option for sure in my mind as you're ADS alot. I'm testing with Overshield stuff so Ring Of Conversion is a must for me right now as I'm testing but Unrelenting Token is nice and safe for sure

[queen harbor]

I dont see the benefit in stuff relating to health since your gonna always wanna have shield up. Most of the time as soon as your shield goes ur dead anyways unless u got phosphorus/ healing orb up

[rancid siren]

NEEDED THIS!!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH

[rancid siren]

im quite late but Borealis is the best sheild cracker in the game, in one shot, sheilds of any type will break allowing others to kill it instantly, its one of the best support weapons and once you hit final boss, you can spam semi-auto to deal one of the highest dps in the game. its really goood

[covert cobalt]

I would rather lose time killing those with shields than dealing less dmg to bosses

[rancid siren]

? But Borealis has extreme good dps with bosses, just start spamming, highest damage in the game plus decent fire rate makes it crazy!

[covert cobalt]

So Izanagi is useless?

[hidden goblet]

Izanagi is stronger usually but the ability to change damage type is useful

I don’t see borealis being higher dps

[rancid siren]

Uhh, ill check

[rancid siren]

Just checked and im still right, base izanagi has 334 dps, Borealis has 401, so the 70 extra dps grows when you upgrade it

[covert cobalt]

We need a dps check video on practice range. It makes no sense for izanagi to be worse than borealis for dmg

[rancid siren]

How come?

I just checked statistics

That's what it say 😪, though, i actually get your point

The balancing is off, it wouldn't make sense for the gimmicked gun to also have better dps

That just defeats the purpose of having two exotics, though. Unless they fix it

Borealis is just the better one, also its litteraly free, just sign in 7 days

[onyx grail]

What weapons do you use with borealis?

[covert cobalt]

Because one is free and have the niche to be good for breaking the shields, the other is specialised for damage on single targets like obviously bosses.
If the borealis is actually tested and proves to be dealing more damage than izanagi, then izanagi is straight up useless

[rancid siren]

Didn't I just say that?

Like, nearly word for word...

[rancid siren]

Umm, I think its called lock down, its s mythic

[covert cobalt]

So you are saying that izanagi is useless?

[rancid siren]

Yes... yes it is

[hidden goblet]

Got both and used them on same content?

[rancid siren]

Ahh, no, just statistically inferior

I dont have Izanagi

[hidden goblet]

You can’t really compare then

[onyx grail]

Why are u using total lockdown instead of DEL3 ?

[hidden goblet]

Total lockdown has a lot better perks

Plus full auto

[onyx grail]

Ok thanks. I spend to much ressources on DEL3 😭

[hidden goblet]

You can dismantle and get a lot back

[covert cobalt]

Have you played destiny 2 before?

[rancid siren]

Unfortunately, no

[covert cobalt]

That explains your point. Stats tend to be pretty much fake

[rancid siren]

I dont have the storage nor specs to run it

[rancid siren]

Ahhhh, I see, ONLY IF WE HAD A FANDOM!!!

[covert cobalt]

A hand cannon that has 100 impact (a.k.a. dphit for destiny 2) is usually not that different from 90 and so on

[covert cobalt]

?

[rancid siren]

Uhhh, I just got blocked for saying something

Found the issue, can't use links i think

As of the standard Fandom website, Destiny rising doesn't have a page/blog

We dont have a wiki

[covert cobalt]

Okay? So your point was that you wanted a fandom wiki?

[rancid siren]

Yes, its easier to store info and other stuff, then we can compare in-game stat's against the statistical ones we're shown

[covert cobalt]

Also, if you were checking mostly the base dps between borealis and izanagi, then you should consider that izanagi is much slower to shoot, so it makes sense that the dps doesn't take that in consideration

[rancid siren]

Ahhh, so I does more damage is what your saying? So its more sniper than Borealis, but to be fair, ig its playstyle then, I find Borealis is way better as a shield cracker, it pops sheilds and due to some hidden mechanic does crazy damage because it 1-shot sheilds. But for bosses I would give to Izanagi only on the info

Ive been given

Do you have Izanagi? Can you give me some insight on what it actually does, being it is a feature weapon

@covert cobalt

[covert cobalt]

I don't have izanagi and I don't have borealis, I am keeping the login exotic engram because of it

[rough wharf]

I was with one on a raid that have izzy and he did 41% of Issakis

[hidden goblet]

Doesn’t 1 shot shields everywhere I’m doing challenge runs and it doesn’t pop everything with a headshot

[hidden goblet]

I do like borealis though. Like I said being able to change damage type is nice and the extra damage from popping a shield is a nice extra

[rancid siren]

What rank are you playing?

Im at 58 ish and its still doing g me great

[hidden goblet]

Rank? I’m 57k power and 12 aclaim if that’s what you mean

[covert cobalt]

Similar too.
@hidden goblet are you using similar artifacts as shown above by Tan-2?

[hidden goblet]

I was using piercing set but I just changed i now run bulwalk, talisman of luxuriance, ring of reflection and ring of morale. Only the talisman is exotic currently the rest mythic

Essentially at 5 set I get 45% dmg buff whenever I get an over shield. Talisman and phosphorous means I consistently get an over shield plus if not from that then from precision hits

I’m thinking I don’t need both bulwalk and talisman though. They do the same thing

[covert cobalt]

I can't get good rolls on them. And also just got yet another tan-2. I got 4 5* and all of them were Tan-2 lol

[rough wharf]

Does
RING OF CONVERSION: 28% of overflow healing from the wielder's own abilities is converted into an overshield that lasts 6s.

BULWARK: Precision final blows grant a 238 overshield for 8s.

RING OF COURAGE: Take -3.5% damage and deal +7% damage while protected by an overshield.

HAWKEYE: When hitting targets more than 20m away, weapons deal higher damage based on how far away they are, up to +16.8%.
work?

[covert cobalt]

Idk what each one do

[rough wharf]

Is it good?

[hidden goblet]

I only have 3 copies so far

[covert cobalt]

Considering the concept of Tan-2 (discord user) said, the first one might be bad long term

Hawkeye might not be that good if you play with other players, for example for a raid. Usually you put the dmg buffing or even the healing well close to boss for those that are close ranged dps

[hidden goblet]

I feel ring of morale better than courage

[zinc tapir]

Nah fam, we running 4pc Movement, we making our boy a speeddemon

[hidden goblet]

That gets one shot and has no damage or healing

[tender notch]

What are the best atributes for each artifact?

[hidden goblet]

I’m thinking of dropping bulwalk for ring of abundance. When I get healed I already get an over shield so don’t think hitting precision for an over shield is needed

[onyx grail]

I m so lost with artifacts possibilities

[hidden goblet]

Just did my new setup and tested on the first encounter

Basically sat in room over bridge and didn’t need to move

[dim fable]

Yah I might swap out Hawkeye for something else. Cause it provides pretty much nothing unless a boss is far away

Actually could just have both. Hawkeye for when I’m solo or when the boss is far. And then something else for when I’m doing the raid

[hidden goblet]

Can’t post pictures or id send mine in

[severe lintel]

these are all good suggestions. this is what this thread is for, and im happy all of you are contributing to wanting to make a solid setup

[rancid siren]

Beans

[rancid siren]

Okay, uhhh, in my honest opinion, this doesn't work one bit

The only thing I see going for you is Hawkeye but its debatable

ring of conversion sounds really good because 30% extra healthy is pretty good

[hidden goblet]

Yh bulwalk I don’t like now. Has to be final blow and it’s a low amount of over shield

Thinking of going full ring set now

Although I do have a question about talisman of luxuriance does it proc on healing self?

[covert cobalt]

I think so?

[hidden goblet]

It says it procs on target being healed though so not sure if phosphorous counts as targeting

Does it also only proc if you have lost 20% hp?

[onyx grail]

I just tested and it works on yourself

[hidden goblet]

Nice

[compact lynx]

Why do you use health lost in a healing build to avoid health lost?

I use guard on that one for shield if you're low health

[severe lintel]

Its Bugged rn and overshield loss is counting towards it, granting the max amount every time

[compact lynx]

Oh wow

[compact lynx]

Does that work for both lux and veng?

[severe lintel]

Yes as of rn, of course the one you suggested is better once the bug is fixed

[compact lynx]

would u use veng > fury for 3rd?
it's perma wep damage
i have t2 of each, so 13.5% dmg when shielded vs 2.25% per 10% health lost, so i'd need to be -60% all the time to match

inverted*

[hidden goblet]

Or would you just need to lose 10% overshield 6 times?

Would the buff be removed if over shield is restored above the lost amount?

[hidden goblet]

Would talisman proc if you have lost less than 20% health or do you have to have lost 20%?

[opaque swan]

Do the type of artifact matter like can I mix/match survival and piercing or do I have to go full 4/4 piercing?

[hidden goblet]

You can do what you like but both sets are bad to run you should mix them up

So I just tested talisman vs ring of conversion. For self heals talisman won’t proc overshield if your full health as there is no healing to be done so you don’t get an overshield. Tasliman only is good if your actively healing things and wastes the healing that you get from phosphorus essentially

[opaque swan]

what 4 artifacts would you rec on Tan

I have him at T5

[hidden goblet]

On ring of convergence the healing from phosphorus does give over shield even at full health

[hidden goblet]

I’ve been doing back and forth a lot. I currently like the ring set

Ring of abundance, conversion, morale and reflection

But I’m testing some combos out

[opaque swan]

when doing singularity is it worth doing the higher difficulty or is it just purely there for tougher enemies and not rewards?

[hidden goblet]

Not 100% sure I just do master ones

[opaque swan]

It gives 3 chests

but not sure if its faster to send it on heroic and get 2

[hidden goblet]

Master is just as quick

Just tested talisman of inspiration. It get damage buff from the heal that phosphorus gives in that attack. So aslong as you have phosphorous active you get the extra damage

[chilly snow]

how have people acknowledge polaris lance is making more dps than the standard izanagi combo?

[lost plover]

I can’t wait to get Polaris

[chilly snow]

now that the izi cancel reload is fixed , polaris shine here

[covert cobalt]

I think polaris lance overall is good for everything that is not boss dmg phase

Izanagi I feel like you would still want it for more dmg overall.
I think it mostly depends on how tanky is the boss. If too tanky and you don't get consistently enough ammos for each dmg phase, polaris lance might help a lot

[rancid siren]

Sup

[rancid siren]

Uhh, polaris lance is such a hassle to get

Im not bothered until I can actually grind goo campaigns

[opaque swan]

What does Tans T6 mean?

"When the corresponding mode's Flare energy is full, Sunset or Sunrise will also be immediately and fully recharged"

so when they're both on CD when one finishes the other does too?

[late zenith]

More like when you have enough flare energy, and the signature skill is on cooldown, it automatically refreshes and becomes available.

There are two parts to his kit - skills have standard cooldowns, the flare energy just allows you to enhance them.

[opaque swan]

Ah so

If I use my heal and it's flare energy fills then the ability comes back?

[late zenith]

Sounds like it, can't test it 🙂

[covert cobalt]

Basically you can spam abilities that way by simply shooting weak points with sniper and scout rifle

[opaque swan]

Just tested it

[hidden goblet]

So I finally got izanagi and I already had borealis and I’ve been testing.

Izanagi I can hit 225k however it uses 4 rounds for that. Borealis I can hit 43k but that’s without the bonus damage from popping a shield.

Comparatively my mythic sniper my first hit is 21k and increases roughly 3k per shot and then the 5th shot hits 93k

So for 5 rounds mythic does 194k dmg
Borealis does 215k per 5 rounds
Izanagi does 225k per 5 rounds (1 for the shot 4 for the perk)

Each of these takes a similar time due to Izanagi needing to reload. Personally, given that Polaris is so much better than mythic scout and the mythic sniper isn’t that far off the 2 exotics I would use Polaris over the 2 exotic snipers

[lofty wind]

Are you taking into account if it's fully max upgraded? There are dmg increase %

[covert cobalt]

That was my plan yeah. But also the mythic scout I heard that there is a good combo that makes it close to exotic level

[covert cobalt]

We can't test fully upgraded exotic weapons cause that would be pretty hard and expensive.

[hidden goblet]

My 2 exotic are including the first catalyst and are lvl 80 and enhanced to lvl 10z my mythic is enhanced to lvl 9. I have trinklieder and searing mark on my mythic with 2 mythic mods and 1 exotic

That’s realistic for this point in the game without spending a ton

[hidden goblet]

Close to exotic is nice but given that the mythic sniper is also close to exotic dmg output it’s very much a matter of personal preference. The only thing I would say is if you got a god roll mythic scout. Borealis isn’t much behind Izanagi and the ability to swap damage types is very very useful

Higher catalyst might change this though

[halcyon tusk]

so what's everyone's most recommended artifact setup so far

[twin garnet]

1.abundunt phantasimal
2.ring of conversion
3.calming token
4.talisman of inspiration

[opaque swan]

Doesn't sound like a bad combo if you spam heal and stand still

[twin garnet]

you can swap calming for Corageous Planetesimal if you want

[hidden goblet]

Il send you mine via dm

[static cairn]

1. Inverted Guard
2. Ring of Safeguarding
3. Calming Token
4. Bellicose Planetesimal

Great damage with perma 30% weapon damage uptime with 4th artifact, and never get close to dying with minimal work.

[tardy stream]

isnt inverted the one that doesnt do what people thought it did?

[hidden goblet]

I had overlooked bellicose planetesimal for my tan. But might use that instead.

I run ring of abundance, conversion and courage

[late zenith]

Exactly the comparison I was looking for and the results I was kinda expecting. Btw mind that multiple weak shots give much more flare energy than one single big one. So there are other factors in favor of polaris / borealis vs izanagi

[hidden goblet]

This is based on having full flare and having phosphorus active

[hidden goblet]

I might still go borealis over Polaris if content has lots of different shield types that option gets overlooked too easily

[late zenith]

I mean you refill energy faster with multiple shots compared to the slow single shot of izanagi. The damage per second is highest but the energy per second is lowest l.

[static cairn]

I’m going to maybe pick up the Borealis dupe as a stat stick to get 65k tomorrow, but i’ll save it just incase.. trying to get a izi dupe is killing me

[opaque swan]

Unless you have T6 Tan then yeah, I think it takes 3 shots weak spots from a sniper to retrigger your ability instantly

Originally it's 15 energy for sniper weak spot but T6 makes it 25

wait so I'm wrong it's the 3rd relic trait that does that

[static cairn]

Ohh sweet! I didn’t understand what my T6 did 😂 T5 is really nice

[opaque swan]

T6 just refreshes your ability respective to the flare energy once it maxes out

so you can really just spam orb or heal

[covert cobalt]

Fair point, but that's why I would rather use polaris lance since it feels cooler, but I need to get it first

[late zenith]

Yep, just a little more than that. 3rd trait makes it 3+2 and 15+10 (out of 100), so 20 hits with normal and 4 hits with power. T6 definitely helps utilizing it for best uptime.

[opaque swan]

T6 almost doubles your DPS

it's nuts

[static cairn]

Anything in particular we should do if T6 for optimised DPS?

[opaque swan]

Yeah press your ability on CD

[covert cobalt]

Well, let's just say that it also makes him a pretty insane healer too. Since spamming his healing ability is pretty good

[opaque swan]

Yeah with the right artifact with overshielding and healing into damage

It can be super nuts with heal spam and orb spam

[static cairn]

I don't get how though, there's still a CD on each ability no?

[opaque swan]

you need to fill the bar above your hp bar once it fills your ability will refresh

it fills with precision hits

[covert cobalt]

So in the end which artifacts on tan-2?

[hidden goblet]

I might still go borealis over Polaris if content has lots of different shield types that option gets overlooked too easily

[hidden goblet]

Il send you what im running

[static cairn]

That would explain why I randomly get a ability back straight away after using it... So when you fill the bar it gives your abilities back right away? instead of waiting for the CD?

[opaque swan]

Yeah pretty straight forward, works similar to wolfs abilities

[opaque swan]

Yeah but if GM is anything like D2 then I would take polaris over borealis

[static cairn]

Now if you get a kill, it refreshes your CD that would feel like Wolf 🥲

[opaque swan]

Wolf’s ability also insta pops when you fill his bar

[covert cobalt]

the fact you got T6 tan-2 and didn't even check what it does e.e

[opaque swan]

To be fair some of the descriptions aren’t very detailed and needs a bit of trial and error to figure out

[slow nest]

And do you have Polaris? How much dps was it in comparison?

[hidden goblet]

Haven’t got Polaris yet when I get il test again

[slow nest]

I've seen some good results, specially since iza got nerfed

[rough wharf]

Doing 600k with a single magazine with polaris

But you have to hit precision shots

[haughty lotus]

can anyone advice me wich artifact are the best for tan

[rancid siren]

This is pretty advanced

Also, Borealis is better because that 10k damage is insignificant when you still have to deal with the little guys

Also, perks can alter result, e.g having perk that just does more damage is clearly unfair

So divide your answer by the perks that aren't innate and then return the results

[rancid siren]

That's amazing because of singularity. Just get partial weakness and say (the one where precision shot explode 10 metres) and your wiping every floor

Also, found out that spread artifacts are actually subpar with survival in a few cases

Bulwark is replaced with inverted vengeance

I have to check, these one more

I think its hawkeye

[upbeat solstice]

Running a mix of Healing and precision artifacts on my tan2

Bulwark Token
Talisman of luxurience
Talisman of Unity
Hawkeye Token

[rough wharf]

Yeah and that was at its base without a catalyst and only enhanced +7

[severe lintel]

This thread popped off, I love you all

[onyx grail]

Today’s patch note :
Fixed an issue in which Ring of Conversion’s effect could be triggered by some non-abilty sources of healing

[rancid siren]

Oh, anyone with any updates on Izanagi vs Borealis?

Also, Bulwark vs Inverted vengeance?!

[hidden goblet]

Borealis is only slightly less dps but with the ability to swap dmg type. Imo borealis

[rancid siren]

Imo?

[lofty wind]

In my opinion

[lost plover]

Main chat is talking about it now

[rancid siren]

Oh, thx, that actually really convenient

[lost plover]

Apparently god rolled mythic 40k out performs Izy that hasn’t been upgraded - re: exotic catalysts

Personally, I’m running total lockdown and borealis until I can god roll 40k, and then I’ll focus on a Polaris with at least 1-2 exotic catalysts

[covert cobalt]

I really want to get polaris, but it's so hard

[lost plover]

It is, but I’m saving my first catalyst for it

It’s only a matter of time

[hidden goblet]

I’ve got 3 exotics from the pool so far and not hit Polaris

[lost plover]

Same

[haughty lotus]

Can u help me with the artifacts for this beauty

[rough wharf]

Will there be another test for izzy to not waste resources for it

[chilly snow]

so u can double grenade now?

man i wish there is tan2 banner only

def spend my money on it to t6

[covert cobalt]

Tbf, give it time and you ll get it massively. Mostly depends on the source of those pulls in future content

[covert cobalt]

@severe lintel btw how does the well buff work with estella? Does she need to have her summons inside the well to buff her minions dmg or she just need her to be inside?

[severe lintel]

her misions get the buff as long as estela is in the well

[covert cobalt]

That's pretty nice.
I guess they don't have hp so they don't need the healing well

[chilly abyss]

Well works with minions? Oooo

[severe lintel]

they do have hp which also scales with well but the dmg buff they receive from it is granted via estela's involvement with being in the well

[covert cobalt]

But can they be healed with the well? Do they need to be inside or it works like for the buffing well?

[hidden goblet]

Anyone tested ring of conversion yet to see what healing triggers it?

[severe lintel]

yes they can be healed in the well

[covert cobalt]

So if you have a set up team you might not even need the artifact to restore summon hp

[bold egret]

what is the godroll for 40k

and total lockdown

[compact lynx]

thinking i might swap tan2 for ninjaneko, she has same build but doesn't need to waste an ability to swap from dps to heals

[lost plover]

A lot of people say fraternity for slot one, because apparently it applies if you’re the only one alive, but when they fix it it’ll be a dud

There’s probably a clear winner out of the other two, but IMHO if you can hit precision shots you should go for bullseye

If you can’t , go with annihilation

Second slot is 100% allocation vector

[lost plover]

Same deal again with fraternity.

Firing Line seems the obvious choice, but again it relies on you being able to hit precision shots.

Personally I like Trinklieder because it’s a guaranteed 15% increase, and it does double duty in PvP because you’ll get that extra 20% when your team gets the drop on another team

Second slot is 100% searing mark

[modern wigeon]

Do you have the best weapon for tan-2 ?

[static cairn]

Do we know which sniper is the best for Tan? Going to feel bad after getting Izi's 2nd Catalyst is a mythic is better haha

[static cairn]

Does help Tan's kit, and the Artifact in slot 4 so he always has the weapon damage buff.. So it's not a big deal for me

[hidden goblet]

Having Polaris is better than using either exotic sniper

[lost plover]

I’m praying g to RNGesus that the next exotic I pull is Polaris

[dim fable]

izanagi probably just needs more investment, and izanagi is better for shinkas and more mobile bosses, i think the mythic is only better because on issakai's you can just stand in one place right next to the boss

but for shinkas, one shotting is the fastest time you can have, and izanagi does that

[lost plover]

Unless you’re a whale, it’s too early in the game to even consider Izi IMHO

[hidden goblet]

40k is closer to Izanagi than Polaris is to lockout and Polaris will still down shinkas very quickly

[static cairn]

Feel like the god roll Lockout is close to Polaris… so makes me want to use Izi with 2nd catalyst.. but honestly give it 1/2 more weeks i’ll have izi maxed

[covert cobalt]

Up to you

[tardy stream]

been seeing some people run the overshield tan-2 stuff on piece 1-2 so I went out and got this piece. Just happy it didnt roll recovery or barrier. Could have done with Ranged resist but overall really happy with it.

[hidden goblet]

That is a pretty much perfect roll

[queen harbor]

Im using this rn, does anyone have better suggestions?

I know inverted guard is bugged, it reduces health and increases shield but tbh I think its still fine

And im using polaris

[quick cargo]

What do you guys suggest for ning fei?

[white ether]

Is there any resource, YouTube channel, subreddit etc that has consolidated guidance on optimized builds per character so I can save that and just return to it?

[quick cargo]

Secondary question, I'm a little confused on how I up the set abilities. Is it something you unlock late-endgame?

[remote galleon]

None that I know

You need to look around and do your own testing for the most part

What I’ve found is that there are multiple viable options and the difference is some what negligible. What really matters is your attributes

[lost plover]

RNGesus loves me today

[tardy stream]

what offensive stats are the go too for tan-2? I feel like weapon and damage bonus boost might both be good for tan-2 but no idea about the rest

[opaque swan]

managed to do 21-30 with Tan

Holy crap it was rough

[covert cobalt]

:(

[rough wharf]

Want that 40k so much

[zenith marlin]

Im confused about attribute transfer. You made it sound like you can transfer perks (top and bottom) but as far as im aware its only the lvl of the perks that transfer to a new artifact with same name and type.

[bitter wedge]

Best perk for 40k?

[lost plover]

Searing Mark for the second slot

For the first slot, I’m going to go against the popular choice and say Tinklieder is the best option.

The requirements for Fraternity and Firing Line to increase your damage can’t always be guaranteed, though most people go with Fraternity because it’s currently bugged and applies if you’re the only one alive or playing solo.

Tinklieder gives you a base of 10% just for having a full fireteam, which is a given unless someone leaves, at which point things are probably going south anyway, and then gives you a further base damage increase of 15% just for everyone having active shields.

The second increase is not likely to have a lot of uptime, but the first one will be up at all the time.

On my 40k Tinklieder is at 20% + 25% with mythic mods.

[rancid siren]

So transfer is its boost, so if you have 2 of the same artifact but one is level stacked but the other has better boost, you can transfer the boost to the one your currently using to avoid wasting material reupgrading it

[zenith marlin]

Yes, but you cant transfer the perks. If one has super boost and solar boost, that wont transfer. Based off what he said it sounds like you can transfer the perks

[rancid siren]

You can, that's how I've been using it? You mean set perks? The ones exclusive to the artufact. Because how im using it is exactly what i said

[zenith marlin]

Yes the way you said it is correct but the initial post had it that you can move set perks basically. My comment is directed to this post at the top

[rancid siren]

Oh, im so sorry, thank you for clarifying. I'll try not ti make the same mistake

[static cairn]

All of us Tan lovers, can we upvote plzzz

#📮│suggestion-voting message

[covert cobalt]

Nty

[hollow hound]

From what I have seen from the top players, this is what they are running.

Tan-2 God Roll Artifact Attributes

Artifact 1 and 2
Health Boost
Defense Boost
Healing Boost
-If I get an Exotic then I also get - Ranged Damage Resistance
-If running shields then I go for - Shield Boost and get rid of Ranged Damage Resistance when using an Exotic, if using a Mythic I get rid of both Defense Boost and Ranged Damage Resistance when using shields

Artifact 3 and 4
Weapon Enhancement
Ability Strength
Signature Boost
-If I get an Exotic then I also get - Damage Bonus Boost

If running overshields then just use what I said about when running shields

[swift flint]

Are these still the best 4 artifacts for tan2?

[lost plover]

I think best is relevant to how you’re playing and what you’re doing, in some regards

Having said that, I think calming token is infinitely better than upright vengeance for tan-2

[rancid siren]

Yo. New name for Tan 2 main, Tan-a-fan

#1417405790330814485

[digital vigil]

TAN-2 FANBASE?!! HELL YH

How have I just discovered this

[queen harbor]

🥵

[rancid siren]

Yep, though this is getting mostly off, so you can join the Tanafan one for actual statistic, when it gappens

[lost plover]

I just rolled the same today as well

[queen harbor]

Fire

[covert cobalt]

If only I could get polaris

[lost plover]

You’ll get it, get 70% of the catalysts done and then get an Izzy

[covert cobalt]

I already got an izzy, I won't use it

[lost plover]

Then you’ll regret everything

Why’s that?

[covert cobalt]

Cause I am close to T6

[lost plover]

Ah

[covert cobalt]

No point to have a sniper like izzy that worsen the whole rotation

[lost plover]

I’m about to hit T4

[covert cobalt]

With a mythical sniper or also borealis I can just spam precision hits and spam abilities

Since basically with his T6 you straight up are broken since abilities skip cooldown if you fully charge the bar

[lost plover]

This is where I’m at, and loving it.

I’ve got the rest of the mats, I’m just trying to hit 64000

[covert cobalt]

I am sure. And also you are damn lucky to get that exotic mat, didn't drop it even once

[lost plover]

Tell me about it

[digital vigil]

Tbh personally I dismantled Polaris lance and didn't find much use for it but I rather have either Izzy or Borealis (I have Borealis)

[lost plover]

I only managed to get it today

40k over Borealis any day

[covert cobalt]

That's a dumb thing to do

[digital vigil]

But fair dubs looking fire though 🔥🔥

[covert cobalt]

You need dupes later on and weapons can also get buffed. They shadow nerfed izzy for example

[digital vigil]

I just rather have a Mythic Godroll Total lockdown

[lost plover]

I’m three exotic mods away from 64000.

I could just equip the ones I have and burn them.

[covert cobalt]

Okay? I have 2 godrolls of that one too, but I will still keep polaris lance, even if I won't be able to use it immediately

[lost plover]

I rolled annihilation and vector just now……so close

[covert cobalt]

I am at acclaim 38 and I need like 2 exotic mods to have my third gold, while for Gwynn I unfortunately have to grind for her exotic artifacts cause she has none

Dismantling exotic weapons is the dumbest thing to do, since you will need also dupes for that and when there will be a time when you want to max that weapon you will either have to be lucky to get enough dupes or straight up spend 100 exotic shards to get an engram

[digital vigil]

Used the dismantled shards and got Twin tails (not dupe)

[covert cobalt]

So? You could have waited the next week and get them from legendary campaign

[lost plover]

I think if they fix fraternity, annihilation will be good.

[covert cobalt]

Shards and catalysts are pretty easy to get in the long term, the specific weapon will be harder to get

[covert cobalt]

Why fix fraternity?

[lost plover]

Because it’s broken

It’s not meant to work when solo, and it’s especially not meant to work when everyone else is dead.

[digital vigil]

I'm still getting more shards for Exotic engrams gonna save em up for either Borealis, Gallows or Nings Cross bow (Exotic)

[lost plover]

Mythic is better than Gallows

[covert cobalt]

I ll just use them for cheap since I have no need to speedrun maxing out an exotic, except one which is the furies III

[covert cobalt]

Gallows is mg

[lost plover]

Yeah, the mythic mg builds corruption faster

[digital vigil]

I'm using Gallows on Kabr and pass my cat 2 Furies III to Estela

[lost plover]

I hit T6 with Kabr today

[covert cobalt]

This is a tan-2 thread

[lost plover]

It was a sad moment

[covert cobalt]

Specifically

[lost plover]

I went through 6 exotic mags today for 40k and not a single one was usable

[digital vigil]

Ok I'll make sure to only mention the Goat Tan-2

[covert cobalt]

Lmao

[lost plover]

Good morning god rolls

What a way to start the day

Now I just need a fraternity mod and it’ll be kitted out

[lost plover]

Tan to T4

One draw and 100 crystals away from T6

[lost plover]

All perk bonuses activated! She’s beautiful!

I’m 132 power from 64000

I need 10 parameters and I can do a catalyst boost for Polaris

[remote galleon]

I have a Polaris and Borealis but I still won’t use them. Waiting for my Izzi to drop (T0 Tan)

And tbh, god roll mythics + max mythic mods are pretty good already and very easy to build. Investing in a Exotic is dangerous with how little exotic materials we get

Obviously a 2-3 Catalyst + 2 branch upgraded Exotic will outperform Mythics but for the current stage of the game I’ll rock my Lockdown + 40K

[lost plover]

I’m only two Polaris’ from band 02

My 40k is straight up gangster now

[remote galleon]

I farmed strike for concerto and didn’t get a single one

If this fate happens to me when I farm Izzy I will crash out

[lost plover]

I finally broke 64000 and passed acclaim 20

Both weapons are over 10k

[covert cobalt]

DAAAMN

[static cairn]

Just waiting for Monday to get my last Izi, then I have it maxed 🤣

[lost plover]

Nice!

[rough wharf]

Agent fyrous goes for the void sniper for some reason

[lost plover]

He also suggests magochi for power weapon

[static cairn]

that is the void sniper Meh was talking about

[lost plover]

Oh right

My brain went void scout for some reason

[static cairn]

🤣

I swear there was another Mythic scout in the beta which we haven't got yet?

[lost plover]

Yeah I’ve heard him say it out does a 40k with exotic mods just by having one perk in the second slot and mythic mods

I think I’ve got mod for that perk

I might try a god roll and see how it goes

It’s only 4 bullet mags though

With an exotic mod it should get to 5, maybe

[lost plover]

40k is now 11k power

I just need to get some clusters tomorrow to finish it off

[lost plover]

and……….she’s done

[queen harbor]

40000 sidereal op 🥵🥶

Im only 61k power and this was a 1 phase on final raid

[lost plover]

Man did they nerf abundance and conversion overnight?

I can’t generate overshield like I did yesterday

[slow nest]

my sniper deals more damage with my my mythic rifle with fraternity on equipped... its like its permanently on. Known bug?

nvm it seems it was a bug my sniper came back to normal. The hell lol.

Yeah something is weird if you swap fraternity on and off. Seems momentary tho. I fix it by swapping chars.

[static cairn]

whats your rotation look like?

[queen harbor]

Ult -> sunset -> 5 shots -> Twilight to cancel reload animation -> 5 shots -> Twilight to reload cancel -> 5 shots -> sunset should be up again for dmg / reload cancel -> 5 shots etc

Im t0 btw

[static cairn]

holy cow....

[queen harbor]

What

[static cairn]

didn't know Twlight let you reload cancel

[queen harbor]

Ye if u look at ur mag size when the reload animation is just before halfway u get ur bullets back, so casting ability cancels the rest of the animation

[static cairn]

But also, makes me feel I kinda wasted resources, seeing as this will be maxed on Monday 🥲🥲

[queen harbor]

Izzi is good, just ive never used it lol cos I got polaris first and stuck with it

[static cairn]

ahh gotcha.. I only got polaris for the first time the other day, also my total lockdown is maxed 🫠 hard to max the 40k as well 🥲

[queen harbor]

Yeah ig u probably got to go with total lockdown + izzi I don't think it's worth switching especially if ur f2p

[rancid siren]

Honestly, lock and Borealis is doing great

[static cairn]

Not f2p, just have no resources now 🤣 and no challenge keys left for more exotic mods

[lost plover]

Holy crap

Annihilation is 100% slept on

Just maxed out my TL with Annihilation and Vector with exotic mods with the perks

Melting everything in expanse, even bosses

And I just used a rate of fire nine blessing

It’s so stupid lol

[lost plover]

It’s turned my TL into a machine gun

[lost plover]

I just need to tune my gear, learn the levels better and then try to go for times

[covert cobalt]

I am trying to get on the exact situation but can't get fraternity with searing mark and the polaris

[covert cobalt]

Oh welp

[covert cobalt]

Tbh... After testing it is straight up wrong to use izzy on Tan-2, especially the higher is your talent tree on him

[static cairn]

ohh well, T6 with the 3rd catalyst will be ok 🙂

[lost plover]

Screws with rotation right?

[covert cobalt]

Ye

[covert cobalt]

What does the 3rd catalyst do? Cause I don't think it basically give you the possibility to use izzy charged load with multiple ammos

[static cairn]

well.... Which mythic sniper is the best? 🧐

[digital vigil]

LESS GOO GODROLL ON LOCKDOWN

[lost plover]

That’s not the god roll

[digital vigil]

Wym it's has mythic traits plus one of the recommend traits

[lost plover]

God rolls are the two best perks

[digital vigil]

Ok

[lost plover]

Don’t get rid of it

It’s still good

Vector is huge

[lofty wind]

Yeah I save all my double mythics in case the meta changes

[lost plover]

This

And with fraternity being broken

You have a 50/50 shot at that being the new meta when they fix it

[opaque swan]

idk bro

firing line seems a little better than trinklieder

[lost plover]

Tink gives initial burst and then a sustained 20%

[opaque swan]

Firing line and Searing Mark seems OD for boss damage

[lost plover]

But

Firing line has a perk upgrade

[opaque swan]

its a 5% difference and you have to rely on allies shields being up

I'm trying to work on swapping from Bore to Sidereal

I got Polaris

[lost plover]

I still say 20% guaranteed dmg with a bonus when shields are up is better than always having to make sure two people are near you

[opaque swan]

I mean at least for this raid

I think everyone stands near each other

[lost plover]

Welcome to the hated minority, where everyone else laughs at you because you’re not using izi

We meet up every Wednesday to cry in unison

[opaque swan]

LMAO

But Polaris hits so much harder with Side

[lost plover]

People see izi’s big numbers, and every top 20 tan-2 using it in the expanse, and decide it’s the bees knees

It has its place without a doubt

I’ll still use this baby 9/10 times

[opaque swan]

triple mods tho

is it worth the non god roll tho...

[lost plover]

That is the god roll

[opaque swan]

ah really

[opaque swan]

Did someone figure out what the best artifact combo is?

[lost plover]

I’ve been running abundance, conversion, calming, and bellicose

It’s working well, but I’m looking to change the last two for inverted fury and vengeance to see how they work.

[rancid siren]

Huh, hey, whats the best way to grind exotic parameters?

I manage to scrum only 1 since I started playing but got the SMG

[lost plover]

Legendary campaign, bounties and dismantling

There are some available on the exchange store

[wild sail]

Which are the best artifacts for Tan-2?

[covert cobalt]

The two best perks are not always the recommended ones

[lost plover]

I didn’t say they were

[covert cobalt]

Total lockdown just need allocation vector, the other they are kinda okay

[lost plover]

Its fraternity, everyone loves fraternity 😂

[covert cobalt]

Welp

[rancid siren]

Bro, Borealis

Its free

YOU HAVE IT

[lost plover]

40k is better

[slow nest]

Any advice where to do the purphoros extension for acclaim

[slow nest]

nvm got it

[dim fable]

Borealis is only useful when targeting shielded void/arc enemies, in all other situtations izanagi or 40k are leagues ahead of borealis.

[rancid siren]

Uh huh...? Didn't we do a test and saw that by rare damage, Borealis is only 10dps lower but its gimmick changes that quick

[dim fable]

Idk what dps test was that. But boralis’s gimmick I don’t think can really apply much as that is only 5 shots for the dps phase. I don’t think it can compare to a godroll 40k for dps

[rancid siren]

Hmm, you have a point, but exotic refineries exert more than perks and its just easier to get

[dim fable]

Debatably. It’s easier to get when you compare one on one. But that’s assuming you are putting all your exotic mats into one gun. In which you should probably do izanagi instead as that sees higher benefits from it. And assumes you don’t have any other char who wants exotic weapons to be upgraded (which starts to be more and more needed as you reach higher powers)

[rancid siren]

That's a great point, im actually moving to your side, though it would be both harder to obtain an 40k godroll and Max out enough to make an impact. Plus there are nearly no other characters to use otter than Gywen if your already maining Tan2

[dim fable]

Technically Umeko as they share weapons. And you might want to pick up Ning Fei for arc. Tbh was probably a mistake for me to pick up Estella over Gwynn cause I do need something for impact shinkas but oh well I can hopefully maybe use Jolder if I finish getting all my other main chars to 67k

[slow nest]

A pretty elegant discussion happened here I see

[quick cargo]

felt. I really only have counters against rapid fire and piercing in my mains list (tan-2, umeko, ning fei, estela). While spread is pretty easy to do with any character, i cant do anything against impact. Just wish i actually enjoyed how gwynn plays. no hate against any that like gwynn but i dont like her abilities and the dual sidearms feel a little weird

[dim fable]

Same exact list lol for me. I might grab Jolder once I finish with my main 4 just for impact

[quick cargo]

Yeah, im debating the thundercrash titan guy as my impact. not the biggest fan of jolder (again sorry jolder mains lol)

[dim fable]

At that point wait till next impact limited 🥀 Xuan Wei is wildly considered one of the worst chars. Only above maybe ikora

Could go Finnala maybe

[quick cargo]

oh yeah finnala isnt a bad idea

[dim fable]

Doesn’t share with tan-2 but you can at least put exotic artifacts on to boost power if needed

[rancid siren]

Ikora's alright not the worst but not that good

[static cairn]

Beautiful 🥹

[queen harbor]

Nice

[covert cobalt]

People go crazy on izanagi lol.
I am glad that I didn't invest on it

[quick cargo]

btw, something i learned recently, estelas MG is actually pretty dang good against impact shinkas

[covert cobalt]

I think rapid fire is good against any shinka beside piercing ones

[wicked nimbus]

After playing since the 3rd, i finally have polaris lance. Just to realize borealis, Izanagi is the way to go for tan

[queen harbor]

Polaris goated fr

[wicked nimbus]

Whats your artifact build?

[lost plover]

Borealis is only good because it’s free and will do until you roll a good 40k.

Just don’t invest into it.

[wicked nimbus]

I didn’t want to, but it was the only way to get my tan to Silver. For Acclaim 15. This acclaim system is a pain

I’m mostly FTP i only got the founders pack

[queen harbor]

Im fully f2p

[queen harbor]

Sorry if the quality is bad

I think on the practice range it's 5m dmg in 20s which tbh doesn't even sound that good

But in raid dmg is good

[queen harbor]

Idk how much jolder buffs dmg but this was duo final raid cos everyone left, we 1 phase the boss

[covert cobalt]

Wrong

Polaris and 40k is the best for tan-2

The rest is unoptimal for how his kit works

[lost plover]

I just upped my 40k to lvl85

[lost plover]

1.2 mil hit with 40k against chaos boss

[covert cobalt]

Nice

[digital vigil]

Dam I might use that build do u think it would pair better with Izzy or just 40k

I personally might tap out Borealis and grind mythic engrams for 40k

Also what's the best perks on 40k rn

[fossil plinth]

Searing Mark is the only must, trinkledier or fraternity are both good for the other

[digital vigil]

thx 👍

[modern wigeon]

do you have the best artefact wit the best attribute pls ?

[queen harbor]

I think 40k is better

?

I said (before the bot deleted msg) im pretty sure izzi is only better if ur group can kill boss in like 5 seconds

I reckon over time 40k is better

But i haven't dont any testing at all and not rly played with anyone to check it either

[digital vigil]

Guess I have to be lucky on my mythic engram pulls on the 40k

[opaque swan]

The damage gain on the sidereal + polaris with t6 tan is so much higher than izi

[lost plover]

Shhh, you’ll wake the izi nut jobs

They’ll say anything to justify their investment

[opaque swan]

idk if the honed shot gives you 4x the energy or if you need to do 4 shots

but that's a huge loss of phosphorus uptime if that is the case 😭

[slow nest]

I'm happy with my 40k on Umeko

This is mostly a three mag dump

[lost plover]

I am so close to T6 I can taste it

[lost plover]

https://tenor.com/view/rookie-numbers-gif-26135237

Gotta get that last mod to ten man

[slow nest]

almost there y_y

[lost plover]

Couple more days of farming legendary and I’ll have the mats to max out my Polaris Lance

[narrow wraith]

what artifacts you run

[static cairn]

I mean, Tan with Izi in Calamity is really nice 🤣 I was getting MVP's every game when getting promoted to Master

Izi > 40k in Calamity... Literally there isn't one set loadout for all content in the game 😂

[digital vigil]

I'm thinking of changing some of my artifacts and use Calming Token, Illuminated Ground and Ring of Obundance

What I currently have on Tan-2 1. Bulwark Token-Exotic 2. Unrelenting Token-Exotic. 3.Inverted Fury-Mythic 4.Hawkeye token-Exotic

Should I keep or Switch?

[static cairn]

Calming Token is just goated... should always have that on him.. the others no idea, as I run.. Ring of abundance, ring of conversaion, Calming token and Bellicose planetesimal

[digital vigil]

Thx I'll take note

[lost plover]

What the …. stats

[lost plover]

That’s what I run, but I want to experiment with inverted fury and vengeance

[digital vigil]

Dam 😔

[slow nest]

This is what I run too

[slow nest]

^

[reef pike]

Abh

[reef pike]

Dang

[lost plover]

That’s what I said….just in more colourful language 😂

[lost plover]

I’m so close to finishing off tans gilding

Just need the month reset to hit the exchange store up

[queen harbor]

Same i only got the last 1 left to do in the middle and then my tan will ne 70k

[lost plover]

Yeah I’ll get close to 70k

I just need new 3rd and 4th artifacts to get me over the mark.

[covert cobalt]

Finally got Tan-2 T6 and I just found out that my artefact setup is kinda sad cause not even one has weapon enhancement ahah

Basically I am lacking +30% dmg boost

Anyway, while polaris lance is super fun to play, I also am starting to think that maybe for harder content I should run double mythical. Since T6 can spam abilities, if I can use both fast rpm weapons I should be able to spam dmg skills.
I wish that last catalyst on polaris lance boosting all blast dmg works also on T2 of Tan-2

[onyx grail]

I remain convinced—having Tan T6—that Total Lockdown and Borealis are a good setup that allows you to cast skills very regularly while dealing very decent damage.

What can be frustrating about Total Lockdown is mainly the fact that you have to reload often.

[covert cobalt]

I think at T6 you either use TL-Borealis/TL-40k/Polaris-40k

Borealis if you want really need sniper for multiple shields, TL-40k if you really want to fully focus on T6 quality (spamming abilities), Polaris only if you have it maxed and you save up ammos properly

Also I think Borealis depends also on the amount of ammos it can have in one mag and how many ammo reserves it can carry and also the amount you get from drop

Still, I would rather use polaris lance cause funnier instead of Borealis.
100% sure I won't use Izanagi on him

That's the only thing you can be sure of. Izanagi is for umeko, not for Tan-2

[covert cobalt]

But it shoots faster than polaris, so it might be good still if spamming more often the ability and the T2 explosive bullet is possible

[static cairn]

I still swear by izi for nuking high health Elite/ Ultra's on content which time matters

[covert cobalt]

Up to you

Octant riot works exactly like izanagi and yet people suggest using concerto

[slow nest]

Reload speed with Umeko is super nuts and I'm still T1.. /I know i'm not a tan main but I dont have a thread like this one I like you guys/ lol. oh nvm I found an Umeko thread good bye was nice to meet ya.

[late zenith]

This was never meant to be a Tan-2 guide but people hijacked it.

[lost plover]

Calling yourself Tan-2 and making a thread threw people off

There’s another thread, but it isn’t overly active

https://discord.com/channels/1267806213656023071/1414646782843031735

[covert cobalt]

It actually was lol

[covert cobalt]

That's true too

[late zenith]

Well, time to make up your mind @covert cobalt - you either continue hijacking OPs thread like you personally did in the very beginning by asking unrelevant questions about a specific class that you play under this very generic guide about artifacts, or you find that "that's true too" by actually understanding what the oither guy meant, what I meant and what OP meant.

Sorry, forgot "lol".

[covert cobalt]

I mean, at first it was all about Tan-2 artifacts setups

Then due to how OP is also called Tan-2, it is kinda confusing

I think initially it was just for tan-2 as the character, but then it became a general artifact thread

[late zenith]

No, at first it was about attifacts in general, written by a user named Tan-2. It was you who failed to understand this and transformed it to a guide about tan-2 artifacts.

There is a BIG difference and still failing to understand it is embarrassing 😉

[covert cobalt]

And since OP is called Tan-2 there is still this confusion, especially since OP made Estela thread with Tan-2's Estela's guide, so made it even more confusing lol

[covert cobalt]

You are taking it too seriously lmao. I was one of the first people talking here and OP made a post in general saying that he made a thread for tan-2 artifacts loadout

That's how I found it out

Then me and others started to go out of topic talking about stuff that wasn't about artifacts but still about Tan-2, then it went kinda random lol

[late zenith]

How serious I am taking things is entirely my own business and no matter how many lmaos and lols you insert instead of full stops at the end of a written sentence, I won't convert to the clown-side.

It isn't cool of you to lie about what other people have said. Because discord isn't rocket science and everyone with 2 brain cells can use the search function to confirm that the OP didn't make a thread for tan-2 artifacts loadout as you boldly claim in defense of your tread hijacking. Well, he did make such post but it wasn't about THIS thread. I know, people making more than one guide is confusing and outrageous. How dare they!

Ultimately I just wanted to enjoy a guide and thread about artifacts and all the different subsystems in place, but unfortunately you drove it to a mindless spam of weapon pull screenshots and niche sniper perks discussions for one of the many playable characters. Well, thank you not.

Anyway, this isn't adding any value to the OP's guide so I am leaving you talking about the little teenage boy and his evil warlord and ruining the experience for other users looking for information on game mechanics.

[covert cobalt]

Lmaoooo, this guy got so into it to send such a long message lmao

Bro, idgaf about this whole thing

Cry about it

And you are the one lying lmao

[covert cobalt]

Tbh, it is also made by a good player, he is one of the top players I think

So I don't mind chatting there

[glass forge]

Yea ain’t gonna lie calling yourself tan-2 while making all those community guide is hella confusing

[covert cobalt]

He should have called himself Tan-0 or NaT-2 lol

[queen harbor]

Sigma ohio skibidi toilet

[static cairn]

wait... was this not a post mean't for Tan-2 builds? 🤣

All these weeks I acted like it was lmao

[covert cobalt]

It was artifacts

The problem is that OP had same name of the character he was showing the artifacts first

And we were talking only about Tan-2 and since it was the only real Tan-2 thread at the time, we started to talk about Tan-2 in general

[static cairn]

The name can be interpreted in so many different ways 😂 Why even put your name in the Title if so? 😂

[covert cobalt]

Yep

[queen harbor]

This is the tan2 thread

[digital vigil]

I'm thinking of using these artifacts instead 1.Ring of Abundance 2. Talisman of luxuarnace 3. Calming Token or Ring of Morale 4. Ring of Reflection

Should I go with another build or use this one?

[lost plover]

One more PL and I can do band 02

[digital vigil]

Dam this chat lookin dry asf this week

[lost plover]

Yep

Everyone is freaking out that Hellhest will make tan irrelevant

[queen harbor]

Npcs fr

[digital vigil]

Tan-2 still better and goated

[covert cobalt]

Why lol

One is arc, the other is solar

Also she has linear fusion rifle which are kinda lacking rn, considering that attal main dmg comes from her mini missiles and not from her heavy weapon.
The bow option will kinda force you to use trinity ghoul and that will make helhest better for ad clear compared to a Tan-2

Overall she is just another support option, so it's not bad

[digital vigil]

Just pulled this Huge W of a Godroll perfect for Tan just needs some mods

[lost plover]

And she is complete

[covert cobalt]

I super envy you

[lost plover]

Band 02 makes such a difference, it was instantly noticeable.

I maxed out the mods on the TL also, I just need 2 more thingies to make it 85 as well

[covert cobalt]

I am more curious if that might boost the explosive bullet dmg that is from T2-T3 of tan-2

[lost plover]

Hmm, interesting

[dawn compass]

why tho

shes an attal replacement, for healing

people only care about the well

[lost plover]

I don’t know, people act like healing matters atm

[dawn compass]

sure tan can heal but its never been that useful for allies cause they dont run conversion

its just a 2x dps boost

[lost plover]

And they all think hellhest will be better because she’s more mobile

[dawn compass]

hellhest will replace ning fei and attal

[lost plover]

I hope hellhest is decent

I’ve got royal contravene ready to go

[covert cobalt]

Tbh the main issue is that overshield is kinda capped or too low, healing is kinda mid rn, tan-2 at the very least make healing pretty fast at t6 if needed.
I am curious on what they are going to do later on.
Imagine if they introduce shield gating like warframe lol

Tbf shield gating would actually be good for this game considering the amount of enemies that has the capability to punish you by oneshotting you.
It should be 2 shots and not instant death

[digital vigil]

She will not fully replace Ning bc of his utility and higher accumulation on damage Helhest is like an Estela from a Trailer but will replace Attal

[covert cobalt]

The standard 3 units won't be easily substituted by the simple fact that they can reach T6 "freely"

No time limitations on them

Anyway, I really want to get Ning fei bruh. I got all the time Tan-2 to the point I maxed his talent tree. Now I just want to get ning fei.
Ikora is super good and fun to play, but people wouldn't play with me if I play her instead of a ning fei for ad clear

[lost plover]

@covert cobalt I’m working on Ikora too

I got the god roll grenade launcher with two out of three exotic perk mods, I have her exotic launcher ready for c2

[covert cobalt]

My man

Do you have her T6?

[lost plover]

Yep

[covert cobalt]

Lucky you, I still don't. I am almost at T5

[lost plover]

Polyploidy perk is so nice

I still need to finish off her artifacts.

[covert cobalt]

Yes

I am trying to get poly and fraternity