#Ascēnsiō v.0.1.1
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i think the game just... doesn't know what xchip is?
@safe sapphire 🙂
Nice work!
thanks
ill do some testing then get a pr up
should take 15 mins
Nice. If you could, can you make the atlas point to the space under where bootstraps is? I will get an atlas ready with the art submitted today.
it's already poinint to that bro
@safe sapphire oh yeah but the xmult still doesn't trigger
have to investigate
For the xmult, it should probably do what exoplanet does with the context if context.individual and context.cardarea == G.play then
im pretty much copying baron in vanilla remade
xd
What kind of weather is sunny and raining at the same time
Because I'm experiencing it rn
God my brain is so fried
Slept for 5 hours so I'm a bit groggy
Still have a bit of muscle pain from yesterday j*b
You don't need to push yourself to finish it right now. Feel free to take a break and come back to this later.
Dw I should get it done with the effect in a bit
Coolio. Will probably be asleep by the time you do so please parden the delay in accepting the pr.
I can tell you are really sleepy because *pardon
Also do sublime Text have a terminal emulator
Maybe. Will check.
Do you use windows PowerShell or something
Apologies, will get back to you in the morning.
No, it's xchips and xmult
Doing _mod and a message means that the mult or chips will come at a different time then the message.
GitHub Desktop is underpowered as hell man
Very cool!
Fixed the text error with X sock and busk and added back in the mult functionality
Also to clarify the _mod issue, for this scenario we needed a seperate message so we needed _mod. Tried removing it to test and for some reason it wouldn't score
Thanks for fixing my code
Alright time to work on my next jonkler
Gros Michel & Cavendish Ascended - Musa Acuminata
X15 mult. At the end of turn, has a 1 in 8 chance to duplicate itself. If the above effect fails to activate, it gains X2.5 mult.
Yes the infamous bananas should ascend into the same joker
I think that should be fine.
Hmmm I suppose...
Man if only there were a Russian roulette jokers
What do you mean by this?
Nevermind that, what if we could ascend playing card editions...
Sounds like a good dlc
Astronomer Ascended - ???
All planet cards and packs in the shop are free. Whenever you level up a hand, also increase that hand's chips and mult gains when levelling up by the same amount.
No idea for a name yet
This idea is fun imma do something about it
Gralloc
No, you would use _message
Gotcha
Updated a copy of Jokers to give them limits, like cryptid has to avoid major lag. I also came up with a rework for hanging chad. I know some people said they were working on a rework. Let me know when that gets done so we can possibly replace this effect with it.
hmmm
is this a bit too strong
I think it will be fine if we have the requirement to have room for it
hm thanks
sample
Whats the purpose behind that event?
Coolio
I'll draft the pr after I'm done with the dishes
(this+ ectoplasm is basically unstoppable)
Yeah I use a different account on PC
Banana Perishable
https://github.com/MarioFan597/Ascensio/pull/20
@safe sapphire pls review
Will do in the morning
bout to hit the sack aren't 'cha
Ah, so it's the banana! No wonder I couldn't findit on the sheet, it isn't updated yet.
too bad there is no art for it yet xd
had to wait for somebody
i am going insane pls send mony so i can go to the aslume
Yeah well I'm "DEFINITELY NOT" doing anything. Noooooo. Perish the thought!
Is that Skibidi toilet
Oh yeah Musa Acuminata is the scientific name of both Cavendish and Gros Michel
They are actually pretty similar so I think they should ascend into the same thing
BANA
cool but its ability involve solf duplication so can i ask if you make the banana two
kinda funny how do i add sound effect to balala
Moar bana
wat the guy muspelheim doing there /j
shit and giggles
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa negative banana is crazy
im thinking of reducing the chance for successful duplication down to 1 in 64
antimatter joker coming soon
have to cap the amount of duplication too before i get like 400 of these banans
(i had 100)
I have a wee break between my digital painting session, so I figured to make smth for the mod, heard you guys need campfire x art (I know hasu in progress making art for this, but I just make it in case they have smth else to do), anyways, yes the starting idea is forest fire, but why stop on just forest fire, so I made it into fire tornado, looks sick imo, so here we go 
AGIDYNE
lgtm
Wis'adel
@safe sapphire included in the banana pr
aaaaaaand its peak
also wee you say???
It is indeed wee because the break is small like the atlas wee used
/j
wee like amiyer
😊
shattered dream of a broken soul
is that a stray feline boy i see
protocol
fym protocol???
Ulpianus
That's a very asian background
That is a subtle nod to the fact I'm asian
@safe sapphire hi :3
Divergent Sun
hello people of the silly exotic mod
i hereby ask for permission for hit mod that only 20 people know about,analog (being developed by jane alaog aka lunaris.analog) to have ascensio crossmod because something something permission is required
i shall cease to exist within this thread once plead is answered
also have a cool n
ask and thou shalt receive
youre good, art block fucking sucks, entirely forgot and kinda lost motivation. im gonna strangle artblock
MOOD
also looks like someone else did it. good fucken job tattered. (get bumped dingus)\
Absolutely, the more cross-mod the better. Let me know if you need help with it.
Just accepted it
thank you for your service
as promised,i shall cease to exist once more
Thought almost the same thing, because spriting usually don't take much time to do, and that exact thing would be bane of everything in creative side
yeah. was also having trouble with what to do for the background after nmaking the main focus.
and then forgot the dayt after
I want to be good at drawing but I kept getting bored at everything I do
Is that normal
Yeah, I actually struggle on what to depict in forest fire, until I sourced very good reference image and the idea of fire tornado suddenly popped in my mind
anyways, good job on the art it looks fucken epic (exotic even)
also, just got reminded, is the dionysus art done? @safe sapphire
if oblivion comes out then you know what im doin 💪
Obibon
exotic John Oblivion creates 2 corrupted exotics when sold
Dionysus isn't
Apologies, it has been on the back burner, but I haven't forgotten about it. Can send you the current file if you want to work on it. Can try to finish it today.
i remember one of the single tweaks was just color changes and adding some leaves to the hair. one personal thing i noticed is the fuckass hairline. here is the thingy.
mostly because the outline is too far from balatro black
also seeing the sheet reminded me of the peak i made
Can I just say outright that the art looks goofy as hell
I made Dio look closer to Perkeo. Also, did some layer rearranging. Still needs work.
Anyway what do you think about my idea for astronomer Ascended
I'm a bit confused with the "Whenever you level up a hand, also increase that hand's chips and mult gains when levelling up by the same amount." Are you saying that each level adds the current chips to the new chips?
You see
Whenever you level up a hand in balatro
It actually increased by a variable
What I propose is a way to increase that variable allowing planet cards to scale quadratically
Instead of linearly
I may not be seeing the bigger picture here, but to me that's a worse version of Universum
Hmmm
You are right, perhaps I should think about it some more
://COMMIT gaming
also i gonna sound very nitpicky but the chance isn't colored properly and it kinda pmo
Can you fix it I'm in the bed chatting on phone rn
I wish I were some kind of Skibidi W Rizzler so I can pull bad b*tches
i dont have a git acc (not planning on it
Wdym git acc
Git itself doesn't need an account to use
Just clone it then make changes then send commit as patches
I'll apply those myself
This is just tattered
My parents say my clothes look tattered and I lurk in many discord server
So I guess I am a tattered lurker
is that a motherfucking jojo reference
I can fix the odds issues. I can also add rigged compat
Thinking about the exotic banana, I think there might be a way to have our cake and eat it too, in a way. What if, instead of an exact duplicate of itself, it created an "assistant" Joker? A special rariety like Buffonary's "Special" that just serves as an assistant to exotics. In this way, we can have a representative for both Gros Michel and Cavendish while they both remain the same Joker. As well, it can be used to allow more copies while preventing commit from going ham.
As long as that joker could be sold for 25$ I'm in
Deal
as jane analog myself i have no iddea how ascensio crossmod is gonna work but im hyped nonetheless
Actually what if it randomly creates Cavendishes and Gros Micheles
if we go with this somebody can make the asset a banana tree i think that would be funny
I think that would be fine as a result of it failing its chance. At the end of every round, it creates a negative Gros Micheles or Cavendish, but there is a 1 in 64 chance it creates a Golden banana that's worth like ^3 mult.
Additionally, even though its a very minor detail, I would like to have as many Jokers in Ascensio as there are in vanilla and cryptid so that the collection looks identical. This would be a good way to keep that up.
what if exotic banana lowers chances of banana imploding
I'll need to see how I can affect the probability of a specific Joker, but I think as a bonus effect it can be added.
^1.2 should be more than enough actually
Also there's a Musa Ingles
A species of banana
We call it giant banana
Cool!
Omega
Ok I have idea for the ascrnsion
Here's a simple one before I start my work today, I want to express pareidolia x in like this "poster"-esque style (idk what style this called tbh) to depict "feelscrafting" idea as extension of pareidolia (which is also expressed in the name of it as "Apophenia")
okay thats so fucking dope actually
What eating 5 melatonin gummies does to your vision:
Oh before I forgot, sorry for the reply ping @safe sapphire , I've seen the art of Dagger X used the old one instead the revised version I did for it from some screenshots, is that one the choice for it or because the revised one drowned so it got missed, kinda curious 
I think it's because I just searched dagger to find the art, so I didn't use the new one because your new message didn't seem to contain it.
hmm thats probably it then yeah, do you need me to send the new one or you fine searching it by yourself?
Is it this one: #1359006396959555686 message ?
Yep, thats exactly the one
sounds about right
Exotic Bootstrap + Exotic Bull
can you see the holo effect?
yes
ive been putting this off for a while but im gonna do the chip jokers tomorrow, im gonna be playin a LOT of terraria today so
Celebron
_ref
nAILED IT (Soothsayer!)
Ill claim the exotic for bloodstone
black hole joker
exotic fortuneteller?
I dont know what you were trying to do sry
exotic queen's gambit
so
i had this idea of a queen piece
hovering above a chessboard
Ok so these have 3 layers, Layer one could be the chess board, Layer two can be Two pawns, one black one white to reference the gambit itself, then layer three can be A queen
just a really low res blender render actually
I saw
ty for your ideas
Weclome
@safe sapphire you broke sock and buskin
Whats the issue?
the immutable table is actually in the extra table
so uh, that should fix the issue
Ok. Thanks
sheesh
If you also say that your art is bad (like many artists) then no art is good
hologram ascended - velum holographicum
this joker gains ^0.1 mult for each cards in the playing deck. at the end of turn, duplicate every cards held in hand.
hi john cartomancer
"The master, that which has realized the thread and loop of the tarot, and utilized it to reach enlightenment."
...or so the story goes.
Dude, this is amazing. Definitely gonna find some way to incorporate this one way or another.
Sorry for the late comment. I think this is also fantastic. Such a unique take on an exotic! Amazing.
Ato's Key Visual is so cool
Ato
Vamp
I did see something for it a bit ago.
Castlevania vibe
Hell yeah
My favorite vampire is Entelechia
-# [looks up]
jesUS CHRIST THAT SCYTHE. THAT THING DOUBLES AS AN AXE.
Rough shape for the main gem on bloodstone exotic
i dare you to make spinel's gem
Is this good?
the thing in the gif?
uhh nvm do it how you wanna
if i was doing this i'd do it like that personally but that's mainl because the reference is too good not to take
ok
-# I think it means good
Thanks for looking up peak
What should I add to the blood stone exotic
I just had the idea of a heart shaped gem
I going to add heart shaped sparkes and shine to the gem
peak alert
I want to apologize, Omega. At this point, my tweaks pretty much turned it into a completely separate Joker. The worst part is, I don't think this is even balanced at the moment, given how quickly you can rack up x3 mult from the Cavendishs. I might just bank my changes for now. Perhaps later down the road, I could think of some way to incorporate this concept.
sixth sense
Amazing art! Always love seeing these abstract versions of the concept for the exotic art!
You really on fire doing this godly artwork back to back, keep it up 
As it turns out, my artistic tendencies are fueled by coffee and an improper sleeping schedule. Not the first time this kind of thing has happened.
(AUGH THANKJS!!!!!!)
I wish I can drink coffee for that, for some reason coffee make me sleepy instead 
Yeah, coffee is pretty comforting in that aspect, making you at ease. But still, removing the ability to sleep somehow.
I might try doing one exotic art in a bit while waiting for my grad certif queue (it so f'in long) 
Oh god, you gotta wait for the certificate. (Though, free time is free time...)
Indeed, must muster all the free time I can get
/hj
Faceless and nameless
Fixed spelling. Duplicated wrong letter.
Looks like I have to fix it again
😔
I mean like, it is tarocci, but i'm terrible with twin letters so i did it for the r instead of the c.
do you like anime games
Nah.
😭
Killed too many sad and angry gods and shit like that to go there now.
sounds like feranmut problems
@safe sapphire https://github.com/MarioFan597/Ascensio/pull/23
pls merge when u wake up
A particularly different smiling dog.
-# (All this circus and carnival iconography in Balatro and Balatro fanart and NOT ONCE do i see a balloon dog?? What has the world come to?)
what the dogs doin' /j 
'Aving lodser fun apparently! 
honestly I never thought going that route for smiley face, gotta admit that was really clever take
Yeah smiley faces are kinda plastic-alligned for me. The vibe of some kind of rubbery squeaky toy. And balloon dogs are all roumbd and squmshy and SOMEHOW NOBODY HERE HAS DRAWN THEM so once I thought of it I had to.
"Wdym Martyr Regina is not today? Martyr Regina is today" , sorry @coarse blade for taking your work through some rough trips, I kinda want to test my auto pixel conversion workflow, and looking at your screenshot for Martyr Regina (Queens Gambit X), it seems like nice subject to test that, I still cant really get nice result just by simple automation, but it is close enough that I only need simple cleanups and overpaint for the result. Broken down pawn and the frame is the only thing I add because well, it doesnt exist before and auto converting it doesnt suddenly make it appear (duh), but anyway, this have been a fun test piece so far 
vampire ascension - filius draconis (son of dragon (dracula means son of dragon iirc)) Theres Vampyrus
this joker gains ^^0.01 mult for each scoring Enhanced/editioned/sealed card played, removes card Enhancement/Edition/Seal. When card enhancement/edition/seal is removed, all card held in hands gains that enhancement/edition/seal.
...i should think of a better name
Oh both the name and the effect is better than the stuff on the sheet. Though I guess that the effect might be kinda chaotic. I guess put the modifications you want last. Held in hand effects have gotta work after being given to the cards held in hand.
Theres Vampyrus for the name. Theres Culex for the bloodsucker theme.
it would works post scoring actually
so the effect doesn't actually trigger
Aww.
you can gain up to ^1.5 mult if you played a fully editioned, sealed and enhanced hand of 5 cards so
maybe too op
this also fits that you can make new vampire by letting one bit a normal human
kinda like that
also i am cooked as hell i cant think of a normal joker effect anymore
sixth sense ascension - praemonitio
if the first hand of round is a single 6, destroy it, and gain 6 negative spectral cards.
probability for rare spectral cards (pointer, gateway, black hole, soul, etc) to spawn is significantly increased.
remove gateway negative effect.
maybe too broken?
ngl that sounds a bit broken
i nerfed the ^^mult
ok but its still tetration and its secondary ability just makes it so you can scale it quite easily
you see that is why its exotic!!!!!!!!
I suppose these are for both odd todd and even steven?
Yep! (I was kinda looking at some sort of fusion of the two but decided against it)
We could probably do some fusions in the future just for funsies, like photochad, bluestorm, etc, etc, I think that'll be interesting, but well, we are currently just aiming to make most of the joker available to be ascended 
Yeah if a fusion-y thing happens for these two, I gotta do some sort of anaglyph design, I adore the anaglyph Iconography.
I also kinda think if it would happen in the future, the condition for fusion is unique to each other and tied to specific criteria when playing rather than confined to a single consumables, because imo it is more engaging than waiting for stuff in shop to appear, but that just a thought that I have with my tired brain (after long queue just to get my certificate
)
-# DUUUDE
10
Mid layer btw
For the fact that i used lusty joker for a pfp its funny the first thing i make for this mod is the bloodstone joker
btw if you have an idea you can do this joker and ill use this for something else,
atomize
what?
Bite my shiny metal ass
No
{10, 10, 10, 10}
what?
beaf
ok
solo
My wallet has more business cards than businesses have cars
If you need an astronaut I know someone on mars
Riff raff riff raff
Rabble rabble
Many
There have been like 9 joker arts from me since yesterday. Holy crap, that's many
I have done a fraction of one, how are you so good and how are you so quick
2nd one explains a lot
I stopped asking that kind of thing after Tattered lmao
Yeah there is a certain trait that makes you incredibly devoted to art and stuff. We are the cryptid.
Way cant I be good :(
You can be good. You's already pretty good. It takes time and wisdom.
i dont have smarts :P
i mean for my age I must be because everyone eats crayons in my school
Yeah, I didn't like being around kids in school, even when there were legitimately friendly ones.
Good things and other improvents still come with time. Just be mindful of yourself. Your actions, what you intake...
Hey am, not that crazy anymore right, well sorta, because it shift into different media
/j
friendly? Lucky
They were few, and didn't define my experience. But hey! At least I'm out and have tread on college grounds. It's infinitely better. Doesn't feel like a prison.
yeah im going to colledge, not spending another 2 years in school
Be me erasing 8 years of my life in uni 
Hmmm are you some kinda tattered lurker

Vagabond Ascended - mendicus laceratus (Tattered Beggar)
Whenever a hand is played when you have less than 1024$, halves that threshold and creates a negative rare consumables. Has 1 in log2(threshold) chance to retrigger an additional time.
Kinda weak, have to redesign later
But enjoy my brainfart
i feel like it should have a minimum of 4 just to keep it in line with regular vagabond
but pretty cool idea
Fixed the current banana Joker. Still want to go back and make some tweaks, but I am moving on for the moment. Would appreciate it if someone would be willing to make banana tree art and either art of a Golden Banana from DKC or a Musa Ingens.
Love your art for the two. Do you mind if I flip the art so they are facing each other in the collection?
Go ahead!
Does this seem balanced to people?
bloods vs crips
Added the Even Steven and Odd Todd Ascensions: Sinistra and Dextra to the GitHub! Please let me know how they play. I fear, for example, that the XChips might outclass the XMult. Let me know your thoughts on it.
I think maybe sinistra should give X2 instead of x4 to be a bit more balanced between the 2
^^1.1 mult
Reflective
You seem to have changed the Ceremonial Dagger art to what it was before.
Fixed allignment on riff raff
add a mini riff raff
Hmmm. That frame layer foes look kinda empty..
I don't know how I feel, adding a direct visage of the predecessor in the upgrade.
I mean you could have it just all be jimbos except for the one in the middle
maybe have it spilling out too
kinda looks like that already
and also consider having a bunch of jimbos with different basic expressions and having chaos happen
even if that would be, probably harder
hold on that files small lemme just
Ik this would be annoying but what if all of the jokers in the middle layer were different jokers
Or just different common jokers?
Yeah uh
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wimmelbilderbuch
I dunno if I wanna do that
A Wimmelbilderbuch (German, literally "teeming picture book"), wimmelbook, or hidden picture book is a type of large-format, wordless picture book. It is characterized by full-spread drawings (sometimes across gatefold pages) depicting scenes richly detailed with humans, animals, and objects. Typically made for children, the drawings are filled ...
Nice
Look up Executor the Ex Foedere
Wow
it gets better
We're twinning
, (Cloud 9 X Rendition)
OOOAGH!!! Oh, that moon looks like the one in the unseen card!
Oh yeah it does lol, tbh I want only simple crescent moon, but it felt too empty I'm just feeling to add smth extra 
It works well! (It's sorta nice to see that in another place? Makes the mods feel interconnected.)
Shouldn't there be a number 9 somewhere
Actually what if the edges also form an IX
Well, it doesnt have to imo, the term cloud 9 itself just an idiom by itself, similar to catch-22 
I like typography tho 😞
well, not everything need a typography
, tbh I can just do some references like IX the Nihility or some bs in the background, but I myself prolly won't do it because it is gonna be too crowded 
Oh God I haven't played HSR for half a year
half?, be me, 2 full year
oh well i pretty much only play one gacha now
i mean i cant login to hsr
i realized i dont even really play it
i just press auto and do other stuffs
then why bother
i pretty much quit all except one gacha
I barely play any since I put a lot of time for myself on drawing rn and back then, my master thesis also come crashing down on me, so I just basically almost dont any play game since 2 years ago 
o7
wanna watch something then? no string attached
cant really rn since I am outside, maybe later 
just 4 and a half mins
ah ic
well goodluck on ur life bro (or sis)
time to devise more devious exotics
vastitas aeterna
poker hand when played has a 1 in 4 chance to X2 its level. if that fails, then +1 level to played hand.
Hm!
Y'know what I should probably throw my hat into the ring regarding the effects of the exotics I've drawn.
!<>
Illus Magister (Cartomancer) - Creates tarot cards in the order of the collection when hand is played. Tarot and Spectral cards can select any number of cards.
Fio Unus (Sixth Sense) - Creates a rare consumable when a six is scored (must have room)
Solutus (Space joker) - Levels up hand by amount of times it has been played this run.
Vampyrus (Vampire) - Strips enhancements, editions and seals from played cards and adds their values to this joker. On round end, removes a random stored modification and gives it to all cards held in hand.
Haruspex (Fortune teller) - Modifications given by tarot (And spectral?) cards are tripled in value.
Statio Finalis (Raised fist) - The values on cards played and held in hand (Chips, added mult, enhancements, editions, etc) are multiplied by the lowest ranked card held in hand for the duration of played hand.
SHEET NAME CHANGES
Acclamatio (Smiley face) - Retrigger Face Cards n additional times, where n is equal to the amount of times a Face Card has been scored this Hand. Face Cards give X10 Mult when scored.
Tarocchi the Rock
/j
acclamation + thalia et melpomene gonna be crazy 🔥
what if exotic lucky cat made glass cards break more often (and prob got a boost from it) because of the "cat tipping a glass of water off a table" joke :p
i just thought of that simply bc my cat is bothering me
Is that for arrowhead X
Barely any aliasing bro
maddened
I have different take on mad joker since the early days of this mod, but I know it'll take me quite a bit of time to realize those idea, I just avoid it lol 
Do elaborate 👀
Kinda hard to describe with only words, but it gonna be a portrait with a mask (similar look to sock and buskin) handling a series of rotating card that come in out into the canvas which have some destroyed (yes I plan it to be animated) and I kinda plan to do use a red-green color scheme to add visual strain (with enough contrast so its not really harsh into the eyes, and bruh who am I, I literally red green colorblind, in no way I'm doing that lol), thats basically how I can summary my thought of it, and well, it just only one ideas of mine 
Hmmm now that I think about it
stultitia hominis (folly of man)
at the start of the turn, select a random joker and gain ^mult based on its rarity. Has a 1 in 4 chance to not destroy that joker.
To transcend life.
Vernal
Quick question to those who played the mod so far: What needs to be changed to make it more engaging in your eyes?
One of the biggest fears I have is people finding the mod to be superfluous. I imagine that many might think that the addition of Exotic Jokers is meaningless, as simply getting one could mean complete domination over freeplay. I ask, what do you think the mod should do to change this perspective? I am currently working on a power-up to give you a temp exotic, but I don't think that will solve this problem specifically.
Make the exotics unique, and give them caveats. More general, less specific ones. Maybe have the negative effects or weak points of the original cards be amplified or evolve alongside the original effects?
So have interactions like Partners?
Hm! If that's the route you have to go.
(An observation: The vanilla legendaries can be powerful, but it takes effort to draw out their full power. Yorick requires a bunch of discarded cards, Perkeo requires you to have your desired conumable in the consumable slot, something that can be a bit difficult, Triboulet uses a total of 8 cards in a regular deck, better get to deckfixing, Canio requires a good method of destroying cards and reliably getting face cards in your hand, and Chicot is seemingly the only one unaffected by this weakness, but lacks an active or scoring ability.)
Thanks for this! Definetly something to keep in mind. Of the current Jokers, which fails this the hardest in your eyes.
Hmmmm. I haven't given an earnest peruse or use much lately, but... Definitely the sinful exotics. Spice them up!
Yes, I agree. I did ask for effects and I want to try and implment them soon.
I do have an idea on how to spice up gameplay, but it's definitely one of those ideas that just screams "THIS IS FEATURE CREEP".
This is just me yapping at this point. What if we do something radical and allow Jokers to "Level Up" to get to exotic status? We aren't gonna make common versions of every Joker, but we allow commons to get to exotic through use and "training" like a jrpg or something. For example, a vanilla Jimbo would be able to upgrade 5 times, whereas a legendary like Perkeo could only do so once. In doing so, it slowly gains the attributes that turn it into its exotic counterpart. It would have the same art until it reaches its exotic form.
The leveling up without the stat increases would be interesting. It'd feel weird if all your jokers were just able to become better. I can imagine a common spectral card being able to do this, but the training, i don't buy.
I gotcha. Would agree a common spectral would be the best route if we did this.
It might be worth starting in general to develop extra content themed around ascension for the mod as well. It might be fun to brainstorm what kind of consumable type this mod could have based on the concept.
...Consumable type? Like tarot, spectral, etc.? Don't threaten me with a good time!
Yes. I think my current problem is that I have been trying to spread one idea (exotic versions of Jokers) too thin. I have been trying to serve a dessert as a main course, and instead of making something more healthy, I have been trying to stuff greens in it to try and pass it off as such. Ascension has and always will be the focus of the mod, but I think there needs to be more to do outside of that to allow the mod to leave a lasting impression.
With the amount of exotics ascensio already bring, it would be funny if there was a consumable that ascends ALL ascension candidate jokers in slot
Could be funny as the rare card of this new set.
OH SO YOU ARE SUGGESTING WHAT I THINK YOU'RE SUGGESTING
-# (Silly note: For things that cannot be ascended, either at the moment or by their nature, how about a new edition: Ascendant - Draws out the full power of specific cards. otherwise, all values on this card are tripled.)
Tarot ascension
Playing Card ascension
🤤
So many cool idea
Could name "Reincarnation" as "Punarbhava" (which mean similar thing) so the name is thematic in origin 
Hell yeah
Also thinking about the 'evil opposite' version that may or may not come with the entropy mod. Maybe they'll be able to make entropics (perhaps for a limited time) but have really hard hurdles to reap the rewards of. KATABASIS - Extremely hard 'pocket ante,' transcend a joker if you survive through it.
Oblivion Syndrome
I think it might be interesting to create a way to make "alternates" of Ascensions so a bunch of ideas can make it in beyond the ones in the sheet
And I'm gonna get totally flamed for this but, fusions
I feel like there needs to be a new fusion mod after fusion jokers kinda slowed down
Fusions would be nice. Maybe we can revive the fusion movement.
I already have a ton of ideas for fusions
I got one!
MR. MOVIE (Fusion, Uncommon or Rare) - +150 chips, +30 mult, -5 chips and -1 mult per hand played. When both chips and mult reach 0, reset those values.
We really need a fusion mod
Ough please yes
Or else, I will have to create custom rarities like "Antique Cooler" for just Joker Forge
Anyways
I would like to ask if anybody has ideas for Exotic #1400416556143612034 jokers
Labyrinth + Panopticon 🔥
Kind of self-promo since I'm the lead dev, but well you gotta ask the community for ideas
MINOTAUR (Fusion, Uncommon) - All hands and discards count as the first and last. All cards played count as the first and last card played.
Mail-in Rebate + Castle = Royal Messenger
Astronomer + Constellation = Cosmic Cartographer
Wetjmuhrco (Legendary) - Fuse with a Common Joker to create its Exotic counterpart, note: only Common Jokers
Fortune teller + Cartomancer (maybe vagabond) = SOOTHSAYER (Fusion, Rare) - Makes a tarot card every blind (or hand played) (must have room) This joker gains +4 mult for every tarot card used this run. Tarot cards give this jokers mult when hand is played.
Now that think abt it if we're gonna make fusions I think a UI feature allowing you to pick the fusion you want out of the jokers you currently have is ideal
there probably will be recipe overlap
Burgundian System: Played 2s through 5s give XMult equal to their face value and retrigger times equal to their face value, destroy all other scoring cards, -3 Joker Slots while held (Ascensio X Terminus, corresponds to The Slave)
Selecting the jokers for the recipie should be good. Though, that might be useful for if you have a vast amount of jokers.
Luckily "Punarbhava" has less characters than "Reincanation".
Actually samsara might be better for the drawing.
you miss the "h" in the drawing, ehe 
also yeah reincarnation is such a long word
OH GOD IT'S PLACEHODER ALL OVER AGAIN
placehodr real and true 🔥
Epic or legendary
I'd say epic
Yeah probably epic. Though there is the possibility of the mod going kinda standalone.
-# (And there is the possibility of MarioFan (and maybe other devs too) not knowing what the hell we're talking about and not wanting to do any of it.)
Gamma
installing another lua language server
I think this could be a great theme for the consumable! Different methods of enlightenment across cultures and religions. Wonderful work!
I think this could be good! I especially like the meditation idea! A trial by fire to get something powerful.
so we should figure out a name for this sets of conumable
I proposed "Exodic."
fuck me 😭
?????
There is another definition to it, but yeah it's kinda silly and a bit too symbolic.
SAMSARA ([Name pending] Card) - This joker will rotate between its ascendant version, regular version, and being debuffed every round.
-# Ante cannot change whilst affected joker exists (blind requirement will still rise)???????
Exodus Cards
Divination, Enlightened, Amanita (In reference to fly argaric), Oh Exodus is good.
As for acquisition, they should probably be few and far between. A pack would take a legendary joker to get.
Your pick/proposition, MarioFan?
I am trying to see if I can find any alternatives as well, but of those, I think I favor Divination as it works both as meaning divine and a future insight.
For the same reason, I am considering chasten as it means both to restrict as well as to refine.
Is Canonization something to consider with this
considering it's kind of connected to the greater purpose of enlightenment in catholicism with the whole "being inducted into sainthood through performing a miracle"
It doesn't have to be catholicism in particular. Many different cultures and religions and philosophies have thrown their hat into the ring regarding enlightenment and mindfulness. There's a general theme of universal or psychological grandness and fufillment with these cards.
I think it would. Sounds like it would work as a card in this set.
Ah, I didn't bring it up cuz it was something having to do with catholicism I just did it because it's connected to enlightenment
Ah yeah. Canonization is a strange term, when put between fiction and church stuff. I thought you were talking about it in the fiction sense.
if you think about it they're quite similar
I think ideally we would have at least 1 card based on each major religion. In doing so, we can be a bit lenient on what we mean by "reaching godhood". Monotheistic religions in particular would consider the idea of becoming a god blasphemous, so we would need the closest thing to that in their doctrine.
Samsara, Mandala, Punarbhava, Karma, Ego Death, Nirvana, Valhalla, Rapture, Meditation, Syncretism..
small tweak
Hmmm do you have any plans to give older ascension jokers a bit of a facelift after 0.1 release?
Do you mean art-wise or effect-wise? Definitely effect-wise I am going to spend some time on.
Both I'd say
The earlier jokers effects are a bit underwhelming compared to others
The earlier Jokers where trying to go for a "more of the same thing" kind of vibe, were as the new ones are fully seperate ideas and art direction from their original counterpart. For the sake of consistancy, it might be better to go back and look at those pieces.
Celestia
I am creating a new section of the spreadsheet for these. I will refer to them as Divination cards for the time being.
If possible, could you also create a letter sheet as well?
Oh yeah I remember when I used to do typography
I am thinking that these should be rarer than spectral cards. Maybe we can also add an ultra rare to other sets as well?
Sure. I guess
what are we talking about?
-# (Crap, i missed that they're divination for the filename. Oh well.)
The name is not final. Looking at the wiki, there are a couple of things also named divination. Might try and fine one not used if possible.
entropy crossmod
actually lemme tweak this
actually i got no ideas ima just remove it until i have one
Different ways of going straight to hell
I realize that I suggested katabasis as the name for a specific kind of card of this type, but how about the name for the type in general?
damnation cards?
I imagine Damnation cards will focus around Calamaites(Exotic Curses).
I thought they'd do things involving Entropics. But that might be a bit derivative.
Fair. I imagine at least one could be like: "Creates two calamity Jokers. After both are defeated, creates an entropic Joker."
or it just causes an effect to build up over time then becomes utterly cataclysmic
in different ways
like adding +0.001 ^Mult or something at the end of each round
or adding a small fixed chance to do something like 0.01% chance to go to Ante 0 when moving up an ante
Also should we add some vouchers too
I was thinking that perhaps these cards showing up in shops should be locked behind a voucher
Oh definitely. Hmm.
T1 (chakra) - divination cards can quite rarely appear in shops.
T2 (lateralus?) - divination cards can appear less rarely in spectral packs.
T3 (parabola?) - divination cards will have the duration that a joker is ascended doubled, or the requirements for ascension lessened.
I think thats good! Might want to change T2 though to either be exclusively spectral or quite rarely in tarrot
A parallel to omen globe, nice!
Also, when I said appear in shops, I meant also including their booster pack in addition to the cards themselves. This might be a bit too extreme however.
I think booster packs for things that can make things exotic is a bit much. They should be pretty damn rare, and not exactly able to appear in the shop pool.
Yes, which is why they should be difficult to get. Perhaps T2 could be the unlocking of booster packs?
My thought is that while a booster pack can only be bought once per shop, you could get as many cards from rerolling as you want, provided you have enough money. This would be very rare btw, double or quadruple a spectral pack.
Rerolling can get pretty pricey without vouchers, though. Not exactly at will.
-# But yeah, having there be a pack in the shop occasionaly sounds okay.
Thats fair
Might try to code SAMSARA. At the very least, I can try to get a template for ~~ divination ~~ Exodic cards
You've landed on Exodic?
There is no entry called exodic on the wiki yet. As well, since you pretty much came up with the concept, it feels appropriate that we go with your name for them.
Alrighty. Then let's get symbolic and unreasonably cerebral!
Sync Catalyst Ascension - Fusio Nuclearis
^2 chips and X2 mult, then Balance chips and mult.
Sorry for this. I'll leave it up to you, but one more name we could go with is numina. Not only is it not on the wiki, but in latin it is plural for the following. I think it is thematically appropriate. Your thoughts?
ELDEN RING REFERENCE FUCK YEAH
Currently Omeganum has a limit of around e10##1000 right
I've found a JavaScript library with support of up to {10, 9e15, 1, 2}
much,,,,further
if you download omeganum optimization you can easily get e308##e308
What do the numbers, Mason, what do they mean? (the {10, 9e15, 1, 2}, I dont understand the notation)
It's beaf
10{{1}}9e15
thank you bot
10{1}10 = 10^10
10{2}10 = 10^^10
10{n}10 = 10(n uparrows)10
10{e10}10
OmegaNum limit
10{ee10}10
10{eeeeeeeee10}10 = 10{e1#10}10 = 10{10^^10}10 or 10{10{2}10}10
10{10{3}10}10
10{10{4}10}10
10{10{10}10}10 ~ {10, 3, 1, 2}
10{10{10{10}10}10} ~ {10, 4, 1, 2}
10{10{....}10}10 (9 {}'s) = {10, 10, 1, 2}
{10, 9e15, 1, 2}
in hyper e it's ~e1##1#9e15
Shatter
-# uuugh atlas fix-y thing
It's been a while since I played modded Balatro, since when Bullshit is a ascension canditate?
ok so because we have numina cards idk if i still want damnation cards as their name
Profane, Stygian...
ohhhh
oh okay, that kinda makes sense lmao
stygian cards i like
Honestly kinda surprised no one taking siimpler one to do exotic art for /hj, here's one of it, Gift Card X rendition 
"Thunk," we all say in unison.
thunk
Cunk
Your work constantly astounds me
somehow I'm constantly astounding. Nice!
Any steps on making the things a thing?
Or, should there be more jokers first?
Sorry, are you asking what we are currently doing or how far we are from the first release?
jokers first
I feel
Like, what're you planning to do at the moment. First release, well, that's probably a fair amount away; It's good.
Sorry, definitely got caught in the excitement of the consumable. I still want to try to get to 72 Jokers for the first release, which should be the main priority. The first release will just have Jokers, with the exception of the ascension card. As an artist, I don't think there is something needed from you specifically at the moment, as I believe we currently have enough art to get to that amount. Code is our limiting factor at the moment. If you want to continue the numina cards, I would greatly appreciate it. Alternatively, if you want to do some playtesting of the mod and give notes, that could also work.
TL:DR Nothing pressing atm.
Alrighty! Playtesting things sounds fun, but I'd probably be awful at it. I'd have to collect a list of crash causes first to test with, and then there's more, and blah, blah, blah...
No worries. I only know hunting season hasn't been fixed yet. Would appreciate any issues you find.
Hey, random thought I had while looking at this, as a additional thing once the mod is done, there could be a deck where instead of everything being exotic there are specific tarot or spectral cards that upgrade a joker to its exotic varient ( I have no clue how practical/easy this would be to code)
I think we could probably use the term "Prana" for "Flow" which is close enough in meaning (? could use Pranayama which is even closer to the term flow, but idk if its gonna fit in the nameplate), so we can have the language root similar to others 
Yeah using more rare terns for the completely regular words sounds good.
meditation probably just "yoga" actually
You might wanna pay a visit to the brainstorm sheet and tweak things on their page.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1CzgAkELf1Jv1bqPsgVdEh_bjD4VXXSh03VPYKUxAJ0E/htmlview#gid=925635463
...
-# ...Ok that one's a nope. No trends! Does yoga count as a trend???? Is it a trend if it's back in the day and litterally a kind of exercise????
ok I'm totally wrong, samadhi is better fit for that lol
hypothetically though even though it's lofty as hell, what if there were exotic planets
Too lofty. There's also that ordinal planets thing i've seen.
Probably gonna stick to numenic black hole.
Do you have like 5 minutes to spare I would like to spread the word of my Lord and saver
Oh yeah I made them lol
Got it implemented pretty well but it's broken as fuck
You just need a Pluto ordinal and you can win the game on gold stake no joker
...I can't fucking make anything balanced... Am I cooked
Marble Joker ascended - stela marmorea
Retrigger played stone cards 3 times. Stone card gives ^1.1 chips when scored. When blind is selected, add 3 editioned red seal stone cards to deck.
Obliterate
Got Acclamatio done, but I am currently going back and making Jokers like Acclamatio that have two or more effects have multiple textboxes so they are easier to read.
Example:
trib vs omg awesome fucking balloon dog no way
Added Smiley Face's Ascension: Acclamatio to the GitHub! Also, tweaked quite a few Joker's descriptions to use multiple text boxes so they are easier to read. Let me know your thoughts on them and if we should remove or increase their usage. Here are some examples below:
Going to do constellation next, current effect is "This Joker gains ^0.1 Mult and ^0.1 Chips every time a Planet card is used". Thinking of adding a bonus for the suit planets, nebula, and holes
I did also fix Hunting Season to use perma ^chips which I assume is what you're referring to?
Thanks for that. I was talking about the issue with rankless cards.
greatly increase the chance for black holes to spawn
@nocturne ridge anyway since mariofan isnt online rn can i ask you for your opinion on my marble joker ascension
Marble Joker ascended - stela marmorea
Retrigger played stone cards 3 times. Stone card gives ^1.1 chips when scored. When blind is selected, add 3 editioned red seal stone cards to deck.
Alright I see what this is
working
also red seal should probably be {C:attention}Red Seal{} and Mosaic should be {C:dark_edition}Mosaic{} and Stone should probably be {C:attention}Stone{}
or the word seal can probably be not formatted
Yeah I did lol
Thank you ruby I love entropy
Oh yeah @agile flint made the art for it a while back
Crealtes 3 every hand? Mm, makes sense, considering how much of a slow burn it's predecessor is.
Also, i think it should say "Creates 3 Mosaic Stone cards with red seals." The ordering feels weird there.
Every time a blind is selected
But yeah
I'll reorder it tomorrow
Guys big ascensio is censoring me
can't we just take its absolute value or?
Syncretism (originally for Punarbhava)
very funny, shop rng
saw this, love it, and by needs work, what in specific
I wanted to touch up the branches a bit more. Give them more of an interconnected twist like the "crown" on Dionysus
@tribal moth Apologies for the ping. I want to try and expand Cardanim to have the option to use higher frame rates. I know it is set to vanilla standards for consistency, but there are times when a higher rate is needed. I personally want to see Square Joker's original exotic art in-game. I am letting you know in case it would be something you would want to incorporate in future versions.
gonna do type chip soon
gotta do final tweaks then im gonna do some art for the calamitous jokers
gotta sleep rn so
Speaking of Calamitous, we need to figure out a design motif for them
gn
I'll look into it later
Thanks, trying to work it out myself. Will let you know if anything comes of it.
okay. will start on it now until i gotta go bed and then work on it again in the morning.
Idea: Instead of frames, Calamitous Jokers have chains
idea: cryptid addon that adds ascended versions of all vanilla and cryptid jokers
I want to get into modding for cryptid and I am trying to understand the exotic version of square joker, where is the tetration formula at?
just exponentiation except instead of multiplying, its exponentiation
alr ive fixed the colors and made the vines be twirly (the twirly yuri vines are canon)
@safe sapphire
still needs the corners, and if theres no critiques, it should be good,
the name card still looks a bit off
Hi umm i just came in to say Thanatos is bugged
Tried destroying face cards with hanged man but gains no mult
I'll try to fix it later then
@safe sapphire 🙂
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa why cant i draw the stone cards to hand
Entropic ruby i guess
Entropious
I do need to do more of the cross-mod stuff
some of the crossmod part of the spreadsheet is a little out of date rn yea
Might just need to redo it. Also need to adjust for the entropic reworks
@silent mirage Question: What was the purpose of the red seal on the stone cards? To me, it seems a bit superfluous if you already have the marble exotic to give retriggers
seems like its just 1 more retrigger which is a little superfluous yeah
since retriggers only stack additively unless ascensio has rescoring
100 retriggers from a joker then a red seal is just 101 retriggers as an example
Me being whimsical and thought that this Jerker wasn't unbalanced enough 🥀🥀🥀
here they are (the cards for the hands are not done, any help on that would be very appreciated)
[7]
I could probably add smth if you want it, probably from tomorrow since I'm gonna be going abroad for 2 weeks far from my pc so I can chime more for a while for this mod on that time 
sure why not
youd be able to do the cards so theyre not all just pairs right
I could, prolly gonna touch @tribal moth (sorry for the ping), since they had done the "Sum" jokers and some alr have several card arrangement for hand in the sprite, so we can reuse them so we dont require much work for it, because why work so much when you can do a little? /hj 
I think I need to remove the ^Chips effect and red seal from the marble joker exotic. If anything, I think they would work as part of an effect for Bunco's Mosaic Joker
Ahhh, crossmod...
How does that stuff work? Can it still work if Firch is not around?
While it might be best to communicate with each team, I don't think there is a problem adding ascensions to Jokers. I don't believe there is anything at this point that would require a rework on their side to have them. The only thing that might require it is if an expansion of a unique mechanic they created is needed. An example would be requesting Ruby to add hyper-operators for ascension power for the entropic Sunny Joker.
Feel like doing food joker because I havent done one, and here Ice Cream X rendition 
would you be able to do the type mult cards too
i posted the atlases here already
I'll see if it doesnt take long, if this wont turn into so much work which I assume it isnt, I could also take those too 
alr
Gonna raise the card creation cap to 40 on Marble Joker to be consistent with other Jokers. Just need to figure out how to disable edition sounds when it creates cards because OMG is it obnoxious in its current state.
Think fast chucklenuts, (get spammed by edition sound) /j 
https://youtu.be/yqz-cRdqtQM
This video inspired me
Oh yeah tomorrow.
Y'all are not going to believe how many warns do I have on my neovim
Okay, I think I figured something else that works without compromising current designs (or the 1 frame = 0.1 seconds intuition)
On the anim fork, I introduced a new parameter framerate_granularity that states how many frames can fit within 0.1 seconds - then the t parameter can take values less than 2 - the minimum t value is now 1/framerate_granularity and all t should be multiples of the minimum value
For example, if framerate_granularity = 2, t can now be 0.5, 1, 1.5, 2, 2.5...
and if framerate_granularity = 3, t can now be 1/3, 2/3, 3/3, 4/3, 5/3... (usually denoted 0.333, 0.666, 1, 1.333, 1.666, etc)
Ideally though, a good framerate_granularity value should be 1 or a multiple of 2 or 5
missed opportunity to add a banana
smhh
i know this is chips but come on, banana split is cool
@safe sapphire https://github.com/MarioFan597/Ascensio/pull/26
Awesome! Thanks a thousand! I imagine this will increase the usability of the library. Nice work!
It depends on whether people who inserted the cardanim system into their mods are still watching this thread 
But yeah no problem
Spectrum Breakthrough
im straight up ascensioing it
and by it
lets just say
ascensio
[EXTREMELY LOUD INCORRECT BUZZER]
Made some significant changes to Marble Joker's ascension. No more ^chips, a bit extreme with its other effects. I also reduced the retriggers to 1. My reasoning is that it is simply a better Iterum if you commit to a bulwark build. I also solved the mosaic edition sound problem, as it now only plays if you don't have Talisman's disable animations on or are creating more than 5 cards at a time. The original effect, I imagine, could still be used as an etropic variant, so I got a copy of the original still when we get around to it.
Also, I made it create cards like the original stone Joker
Got foil on marble, and I have to say it helps highlight the intricate design of the second layer.
Kinda my intention tbh, I kinda want edition to leverage the design of it :)
I could if you want to, its not that hard of a change anyway 
Ice Cream ascended - Glacies Cremoris
^3 chips.
Increase by ^0.1 for every hand increased. Reset when blind is selected, then increase the amount by log10(value)
Sounds simple I'm going to ball with this
@safe sapphire what do you think? 🧐
Initial ^chips need to be lowered, probably to ^1 chips. What is the value being log10'd?
The value of the echip when it gets resetted
So, for example, if you enter the blind with ^3 chips, the gain will rise from 0.1 to approximately 0.57?
Hmmm that's indeed a bit broken haha
I'll lower the initial ^chip to 1.5 then
Still a tad broken, what should I log from...
I know! The next largest power of 10
I think we need a new secondary effect. Looking at the already suggested ice-cream, I'm not loving the second effect on that one either. Maybe we could focus on the cold aspect?
What if we had it so that when you play a none, it didn't use a hand. You would kind of be frozen in place. Maybe it could do something with antes, where it only raises when you beat it twice? Maybe you could freeze items at the shop in exchange for ^chips? A couple of ideas.
Let's just switch to XChip then
tbh its a bit too complex for me
Say...
I do have an idea for entropic ice cream
I'm revealing it at a later date
ok i have another idea
what if it justs +1 chips. but every hand it doubles the amount?
man
ill just ball with it for now
On that note: Entopic marble
I'm gonna tweak ice cream, but then I think I will go ahead and make marble joker's entropic its old effect, at least for the meantime
We need more cross mod stuff anyway
(Dealing with an entropic list right now.)
-# (On a copied sheet! This one is to neatly keep track of the variants!)
Burning World??? IS THAT A FUCKING ULTRAKILL REFERENCE
There's a Death Stranding, KGLW (Quarters!), Disco Elysium, Slay the Princess, 300, Shadow Academy, and a Blue Prince reference in there, too.
Some little things I love to watch
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For ice cream, thinking of changing it to:
+10,000 Chips
+500 each hand played
Doubles gain every 20 hands played
Asked some guys and they said mine is fine though
Hmmm
I'm thinking of something special still
You know astronomica? I'm thinking of making Genie Joker Ascended
It's effect is like, halves all values of the joker on the left of it and double the values of the joker on the right of it
Tattered Vagabond
The problem I have is that it will kill you if you get it randomly. Maybe something like this would be better?
+10,000 Chips
+10,000 chips each hand
Gain doubles every 4 hands played
I'm abt to comment smth but I am too tired that I forgot what I want to talk abt after so many disaster before I need to catch I flight I basically at loss of words 
Its all good!
Yeah I really hope so, me not though, but we dont talk abt that 
Go to bed or watch something I send 😊
My treat
Bro 🥀
Where do I keep the Akaichi no Eleven
I dont know any abt Arknights beside I know some of Starset's own song get inside there somehow
Arknights 2 also got a starset song 🤫
I guess its only natural
It's basically the silksong of gacha game with doomposting reigning supreme
It's like if ascensio has 1000 guy who said crap
Sorry I was a lil excited
Idk tbh, I only once saw Endfield and nothing, my friend play AK and letting me now abt Endfield and whatever state the game is rn 
I really like Arknights though, genuinely feel like it's not even a gacha sometime
It's not like you have time for Vidya 😔
https://youtu.be/iu89TyTqqSU
Idk if you like japanese rap though
#arknights #アークナイツ #明日方舟 #anime #animation #music #hoshiguma
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Help the Algorithm! Arknights!
My fav tune is kinda underground, so in a sense prolly almost no one knows the tune I like 
I see...
墟, literally "ruin(ation)".
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Lyrics (Taken from the official MSR website):
都市の灯りの下で物思いにふける
Reflecting under city lights
気楽に、恐れもなく生きてる
Without a care or fear is how we living life
雰囲気...
Alright back to
Work
Also relax bro X2 +chip is surprisingly weak
How about this? Just to raise the starting chips, we do it like:
+10000 Chips
Doubles every other hand played
At first, at least. Purus Aurum can get pretty busted economically. For an Ice Cream X that doubles the chips every hand, even for one that has 1 chip, it'll take 20 or so hands to get to the millions! Maybe have it be something like ×1.5??
How about this: We make it ^Chips and add hands played across the entire run * 0.01.
Example: If you play your first hand you will ^chips will increase from ^1 to ^1.01. If you played 50 hands instead it would get to ^1.5
I think starting small makes it funnier
Funny: Yes
Useable: No
Relax, you can get like x8 the amount per blind
what do we think of this genie joker ripoff exotic popcorn effect:
X8 Chips and Mult, Increase the Values of All Jokers by +4 per round played (includes self)
Somethingcom if you 🤔 react me agai
oh wait that's mariofan lol
-# this wan't even that funny of a realisation why did I share this
I think it's neat! The issue I had with this and your ice cream effect is that, to me, it doesn't seem like it's thematic for popcorn.
Hunting season's effect was good as it was thematic for the reward of a hunt.
fair enough, I moreso based it one the them of the ambrosia name seeing as would affect all food jokers positively but I coulsd try something more specific to popcorn and the proposed effect used elsewhere (idk where tho lol)
-# uh but anyway I have to go for dinnr see you
Apologies, Omega, I think this variation of your first idea will be the best for the card
How about we bring back that aspect for the entropics?
Alright, Here's my (kinda silly) idea: pandaisia (entropic popcorn)- ^1 Mult, Increase the Values of All Jokers by +4, X1.4 and ^1.04(?) per round played (includes self, but doesn't include the value manip values)
Making the entropic now. Amazing art btw. I noticed that it doesn't have any of the signature pinkish purple that entropics have. Would you mind if I tried to add some on the pillars? We can leave it the way it is if you want.
Go ahead!
-# (I kinda find the magenta requirement a bit limiting, though someone else might be better at finding creative ways to use it.)
Thanks! Will see what I can do!
i think surreal jokers ascension is kind of weak
what if it rounds to the next/nearest power of 4 instead of multiple
well thats still a little weak
Thoughts?
Ooh, nice!
This might be too much, even for an entropic
Yeah uhh maybe you should take the seals away?? 💦 Tone down the retriggers, at least.
What is the measure of a good entropic? Exotics have the wormhole deck to test their viability. Also, what score should they aim for?
I dunno. Either consult the wiki (https://balatromods.miraheze.org/wiki/Entropy/Jokers) or ask Ruby. (I don't have the wherewithal to @ people rn)
Entropy adds 56 Jokers to the game, as well as additional cross-mod Jokers.
The same hand, but only one retrigger:
either use deck of containment or spawn one in with debugplus i guess
or debug pointer
Thinking about what people said, perhaps we can replace the third effect with the ability to buy as many stone cards as you want whenever?
Maybe it can act like Akyros where you can sell the stone cards it gives you as well?
Marmarini Stili
(why does it sounds Italian)
🥀🥀🥀🥀
Adding a button was easier than I thought! Granted, it was taken directly from Akyros. Still need to add the sell function.
Making the sell button. It works, but I can't figure out how to disable it while it is happening.
This is leading to some issues like getting extra money each card
I'm gonna upload what I currently have for Entropic Marble Joker. At the moment, it is functional, but it can and will stop working when it feels like it. This is my first time dealing with functions like this, so I am gonna just go ahead with it for now. Would appreciate it if anyone is willing to look over what I have done to try and fix some of the issues.
Crimson Seal?
which of these 3 designs works the best for a exotic/entropic (havern't decided) recursive Joker
-# this is just the back layer
clever
though i believe a bit of polishing is needed
anyway the first one is my choice
as its muted, perfect as a background
heya uhh I did a bit of polishing (also note that the 'unnfinished' looking bits at the bottom will be covered)
interesting
i always imagined it as mandelbrot related because that was the inspiration behind the jokers art
idea for a muspelheim exotic if anything else with astronomica is planned: effects of +mult and xmult are swapped
Idk that sounds a little weak
i guess
I mean all of them are fucking insane already
I think we should focus on the other jokers
fair yea
I mean there are cases where I think decreasing jokers values is good
i mean my mod currently has a joker with an effect like that but i don't want to just reuse it
it copies adjacent jokers with +1 operator to any scoring effect and the scoring value square rooted
Hmmm
I might save that for the entropic and make animated an animated mandelbrot bg (well, when I get back from the holiday I'm going on tomorrow)
here's a smol update with the borders (the idea is the center joker is disintegrating into 2 jokers
Could probably use sierpinski triangle as a base since joker sprite is kinda close to triangle shape 
I might (depending on what people think of it) add to this sprite when I get back (I wanted to add 2 smaller repeating jokers oon either side (the idea is the main one is beinng dissolved) ), but for now here's exotic Recursion joker - Circuitus [Sell any Joker to create two copies of that Joker with sell values of $-3 *. (Works once per round, per unique Joker) ]
-# downside was not part of the original effect but otherwise it's just better Speculo in most cases)
but yeah unfortunately I am going on holiday for nearly 2 weeks and won't be able to access discord (because I was a lazy scumbag and didn't set up discord on mobile & my password is at home somewhere), though I can still draw a little bit, soooo yeah I will see you all later, until then, Goodbye - Grahkon
Apologies, where is Recursive Joker from?
Entropy
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Uhh cant edit msg on mobile but it turns out I was able to find my password in time so nevermind
Anyway I can uh, implement it if you want
Being a tutor for my cousin
Go ahead 👍
Ive busied myself with other art so im sending this and someone can work on arrowhead X
Yeah I'll do it tonight
Sly Joker X rendition, a tune up from previous iteration, I can probably do the other later a bit quicker since it is only color and hand type variation 
Wily Joker X
FINALLY! WE'RE FREE!!
Clever Joker X
Looks amazing! Have you tested it in-game yet? We might have to add an extra outline depending on how it blends into the background.
I assume in my head it'll be fine since all the pixels were opaque, but no, I havent tested it in game, because well I dont know how to and I'm too lazy to learn abt it 
Also might finish the last two tomorrow because I'm so sleepy 
Replace some sprites in the atlas with your own!
Thats the easiest way to do it
The Third Sanctuary ass background
I know thats one way to do it, I just dont want to think abt it yet since it could fragment my focus, but I could try if I have free time, I probably just gonna finish all the art first just to set the vibe, then probably fix it if there's readability issue arises 
I'm ngl I have no idea what that is, I just "haha lightning sparky yeaa" /hj 
The World Awaits.
My favorite ringtone
Could be a darker color bg to still maintain the original look but make the joker layer and the wings stand out more
Looks really really good regardless
At this point it's going to be faster if I render a black hole instead
thinking of making a simple balatro mod manager with inspiration from lazy.nvim/other neovim plugin manager
I've sorta sorted it, brightening the bg actually kinda solve readability issue on previous one atleast on my working screen in oled, I probably gonna repost it all together with the one I havent done yet 
Here's rendition (and re-rendition) for Flat Chip Hand Type Joker X-es
Sly Joker X
Wily Joker X
Clever Joker X
Devious Joker X
Lastly, Crafty Joker X 
i thought we've decided that the +chips were angels?
still fire though
shit bangs as usual
They're angels-ish??? They have halos and third eyes...
Idrk tbh, I just re-tune the ongoing and alr done sprite for those, the wing sort of devilish looking so I just thought that we follow the track off, honestly, I thought what if we just mix two together to get both worlds, so the hand flat mult one have angelic wing but have devil horns 
And god, I'm not looking forward doing angel wings because those are hard to get correct look 
Do you plan to make Vagabond Ascension art because it will be tattered?
Double Scale -> Augmentum (Growth)
these arent on the sheet but:
Undefined Joker -> Haud (No)
Nebulous Joker -> Numquam (Never)
sorta meme-y idea:
Demicolon exotic rename:
Vis Felis -> Grammatica Antiqua Deorum (Ancient Grammar of the Gods)
Yes, sorry. Really need to update the sheet
Do have some progress elsewhere, though:
yooo i love the revamps of the type chip jokers
its so peak
I really don't think that "type chips" and "type mult" joker is a very good term, 'cause it can be mistaken for any joker that can give chips or mult. Maybe "Mult hand joker" or "Chip hand joker"???
That's fair, but that's the term Kidnapping uses. I was trying to be consistent with it.
Tweak to the effect to make it closer to the original suggestion
The scaling is probably too weak even for common
Green joker is +4 per round, spare trouser is +4~8 per round
Oh i misread nvm
Yeah it's fine then
I think this is the version I will go with for now. These would be the modest values, so if you think it is too weak, we could up it in the mainline or madness version.
My reasoning is that it is an unconditional gain, which already puts it ahead of Green Joker and Ride the Bus. Yes, it takes up a second slot, but you can sell it and keep the gain with no consequences. It is also a lot more lenient in play style, as any type mult or chips would work, so going with Jolly, for example, makes it an easy time to utilize that gain.
Added to the GitHub!
hey so we forgot to make cards sold per ante on silva ardens immutable.
Whoops
Fixed
yipper