#Ascēnsiō v.0.1.1

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livid dove
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Misc Joker: Particle Accelerator

Applies a different Hyperoperation depending on how how many times Jokers have been (re)triggered.

20 = ^2 Mult
50 = ^^1.1 Mult
100+ = ^^^1.01 Mult

velvet widget
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if you've got a better idea than what the doc has go for it

river sluice
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Oh I just realized it would be hella cool for that to be the sound when golden joker is ascended

ebon minnow
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I personally love tetration as a whole

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Pentation and up is too much and the sound is awesome

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The pin would be a nightmare is you have this mod lmao

nimble sundial
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the humble chicot:

ebon minnow
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o

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Make a exotic chicot

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Where it roots blind size

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Imagine exotic blinds lmfao

velvet widget
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as well as making every blind the small blind

ebon minnow
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Wait what

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Huh

velvet widget
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in the documenrt

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check el pins

fervent sierra
ebon minnow
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Wow

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Exotic blinds

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I might make art for that who knows

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It cool

fervent sierra
ebon minnow
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Let it stay ante

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Or eh add something

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X2

coarse blade
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ascendant stake

ebon minnow
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Hyperblinds

fervent sierra
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Tintinnabulum Quod Tolls (The Bell that Tolls)
Forces random cards to always be selected.
-X0.1 Ascension power for each card selected, and all cards count torwards ascension power.

coarse blade
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that's fucked up

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adding to the doc

fervent sierra
coarse blade
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true

ebon minnow
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Wait I have ideas

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Permanent -1 joke slot for each discard used

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I do not know what blind this could be

coarse blade
ebon minnow
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virens folium
All cards have inverted effects unless 2 jokers remaining (so you truly can't play)

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Wair

velvet widget
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ascensio is also doing blinds?

ebon minnow
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All I did was translate verdant leaf

ebon minnow
coarse blade
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or not

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we'll see when mariofan joins

ebon minnow
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I'm evil

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Flint just multiplies chips and mult by -1

coarse blade
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fuck offfff

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that's evil

ebon minnow
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Ok then always draw 1 card from hand or dicsard

coarse blade
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scratch that

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yours is better

ebon minnow
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Crimson heart just debuffs all but 1 joker

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Easy

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Even with negatives you ain't going past that

coarse blade
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adding to doc

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how would you like to be credited

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exotic the joke sends you to ante 39

ebon minnow
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I might make art if I feel like it

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I just need to know how they would look like

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I have suggestions like

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(blind used as a placeholder)

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All I did was take this img, make it smaller to fit the blind, and put color dodge (or whatever closest blending mode to that) and baraboom

ebon minnow
fervent sierra
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Deficiens Folium
Hand will not score until 1/3 of jokers are sold
All cards are debuffed until 1/2 of jokers are sold

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superb_thing already did exotic leaf but i just wanted to get my two cents in

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also i feel this is underpowered

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yeah you should take superb_thing's idea

ebon minnow
fervent sierra
opal plank
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-# i just call him mr. dingus 2

ebon minnow
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Omg this wifi bro

safe sapphire
velvet widget
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YES

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The blinds that disable suits have their showdown versions instead disable everything but those suits

safe sapphire
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I like that, but thats just the ortalab version of those blinds

velvet widget
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i sont keep track of other mod contents 😔

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Or

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Cards of that suit aren't disabled, but they aren't scored and they give x0.5 Mult and x0.5 Chips

fiery obsidian
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Is there a download for this?

safe sapphire
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First post

mental veldt
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Wouldn't Mortal Tenebris just be Negative Joker? Or maybe a Negative Joker/Golden Joker fusion?

safe sapphire
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We may very well do that, but if possible, I would prefer avoiding shared exotics/normal forms if people can think of them. I think you are on the money with the second suggestion, as I previously stated, a mortal form for tenebris could give +2 slots and +$2

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Others like double scale and scalie are gonna be very difficult to make an exotic and mortal form form respectively that arent just each other.

mental veldt
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Libra Spásei (Broken Scale): Scaling Jokers double their own values after scaling.
Steel & Feathers: Copies other Jokers' scaling (only copies Chip, Mult, and $-related scales)

Eh, IDK, that second one sounds more like a new Joker than anything.

fiery obsidian
spring grove
opal plank
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NO

livid dove
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Exotic Lucky Cat: Totemo Ukkī (Very Lucky)

When a Lucky card is triggered, double current chips and mult.
Gain $3 extra payout per lucky card triggered this run.

velvet widget
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How would the hyperblinds work?

velvet widget
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If the hyperblinds are getting in, i suggest naming them after kings? Or at least the showdown blinds

safe sapphire
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Its definitely not gonna be a main focus. If anything, it might be an option for where this mod should go next after we finish all the exotics.

river sluice
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I elect to add my totally cool new consumable idea

coarse blade
# safe sapphire Its definitely not gonna be a main focus. If anything, it might be an option for...
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already done lol

safe sapphire
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I thought so.

coarse blade
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oops

safe sapphire
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No worries, not like it even went anywhere yet

river sluice
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It's out of our scope for now but, in case we wanna add more content I thought of an interesting little consumable set

Website Consumables

Facecard (Facebook): Next shop sells only face cards, and Jokers that affect face cards
JOKER'S COOL WEBSITE!!!!! (90s custom websites): Next shop sells Type Mult, Type Chips and default Jokers.
Googol (Google): Next shop sells only Planets, Tarots and Googol Play Cards
Gethub (Github obvs): Next shop sells only Code cards and Code Jokers.
Yellowp (Yelp): Next shop sells only Food Jokers.
Linkedout (Linkedin): Next shop sells only money granting Jokers.
mmmmmm.co: Next shop sells only M Jokers.
Chips.net: Next shop sells only Chips Jokers.
Mult.net: Next shop sells only Mult Jokers.

opal plank
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this wouldn't fit with this mod

river sluice
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just deciding to put this here just for future reference for myself and also to see if there's other suggestions to make it better

opal plank
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i'll read anyway

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would facecard only work if you have magic trick?

coarse blade
river sluice
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sure

river sluice
opal plank
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i like these otherwise

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(other than googol, holy shit it's broken)

river sluice
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well I'll probably expand on that more when I make a thread for concepting or whatever

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I'm sleepy anyways

safe sapphire
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I think for the moment, I might work on another Joker other than Swashbuckler. I think I need to reimagine the piece from the ground up for that mysterious element. For now, I think I will do Bull. Surprised it wasnt Taurus that was suggested for the name on the doc.

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BTW if people want to take a shot at coding or drawing exotics feel free!

safe sapphire
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I still need to get permission for the background design, but here is what I have for the Taurus Bull at the moment. I think it would be neat if all constellation exotics had the shared motif of a red ribbon.

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Still need to add proper shading

livid dove
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That looks fantastic already!

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Exotic Ancient Joker: Princeps Tribus (Cheif of the Tribe)
Each card of [Suit] gives X2 Mult. Playing the specified suit consecutive times increases the value by X2 per card.
So if you play a Flush, it'll go up by X10 for example.
But each correct suit is an individual upgrade.
I hope that makes sense.

Art should be the Aztec Sun Stone but with Jimbo in the middle.

livid dove
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Cheers!
Still thinking about The Idol though

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Exotic Idol: Maga Medicus (Witch Doctor)

Each [Rank of Suit] held in hand gives ^1.01 Mult.
Played [Rank of Suit] increase the value by ^0.01.

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A part of me kinda wants the art to be resemblant of Aku Aku

safe sapphire
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I can vibe with a crash bandicoot refrence.

livid dove
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Only partially like it though. Maybe some rainbow feathers, but otherwise, have the mask be on a person I reckon.

safe sapphire
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If I do make more constellations, I will probably have to change Virgo's name somehow.

tribal moth
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before i throw hands, i wanna ask, how are Aces being interpreted in this suggestion /j

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On a serious note tho, I wanna object to this effect, but I'm not exactly sure of a better effect - I think overly high retrigger numbers arent good, unperformant and annoying to deal with (at least with animations enabled)

safe sapphire
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Yes, I agree that's ridiculous.

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We do need to think of some more original effects for these retrigger jokers to avoid lag like you stated.

safe sapphire
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Thinking star signs, that might also be a possible avenue for double scale. Maybe the effect has to do with balance. Scalie on the other hand could just self destruction after so many triggers.

livid dove
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Virgo is Epic though?
Also double scale and scalae don't really need attending to since they're already practically a natural evolution.

safe sapphire
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Also, fine. I will concede on the scales and just add the functionality to the ascension card tomorrow for them.

livid dove
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I'm not sure I understand the plan with Virgo. Are you making an Exotic version or...?

safe sapphire
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Vigro (cryptid) gets exotic: Vigro (Ascensio). To avoid confusion, Virgo (cryptid) gets renamed "Astrology M"

livid dove
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Oooooooh

livid dove
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Maybe add a comment to Cryptid's Virgo's description. Something along the lines of. "The Astrology M" or "Not to be confused with the Ascensio Joker"

I reccomend that because in sdm_0's stuff, he added a comment to Blurred Joker that simply reads "I hate this Joker"

spark abyss
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PRIME FLAME WAR

livid dove
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Abstract Cards just Dropped!

And I already have an idea for them:

Sockswald
Legendary

Abstract Cards cannot be destroyed.

safe sapphire
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Should we make exotic abstract joker do something with abstract cards?

livid dove
livid dove
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So yeah. It's a bit too early. But there is that idea if you wanna get right to it.
Once again, I'm so glad to be contributing

safe sapphire
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Idea: Exotic Kitty Printer:
"^1.5 Mult. All skip tags become Cat Tags. Apply a held cat tag's edition to the current selected item by clicking on it."

opal plank
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that’s sick

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and probably not impossible to code because of the last pin in #spectralpack-dev

safe sapphire
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Thanks to some help, Crustulum's mortal form, Birthday Cake, was added to the GitHub! This also means the implementation of my first lovely patch, so hopefully this means I can start working on some of the more complex Joker ideas.

livid dove
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Exotic Splash = Magna Undo (Great Wave)

Cards Held in hand Also count towards score. Adds any potential hands held in hand to mult and chips. (Excludes Clusterfuck)

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I'm aware that an Almanac card does the exact same thing, but this is our own mod. Almanac is still leagues away from being completely stable.

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I have no intentions of trash talking Alamanac. It's a fantastic mod. It just needs some time to catch up in terms of functionality.

safe sapphire
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That's fair. Maybe if we mix this with the other mentioned splash effect, we can get something unique!

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The other one was that cards held in hand also count as scoring

livid dove
safe sapphire
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All good. Thank you for all the suggestions you have given!

livid dove
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I feel like Exotic Stuntman is going to be a bit tricky since we already have the craziest possible Hand Size Related effect: Effarcire.

I know for sure what the art is going to be. It HAS to be based on Evel Knievel. You know, Jumping over Buses?

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Like, The Buses and Ramp is the background, and the Joker itself is the "pop out" layer With a Motorbke and rider coming towards the viewer

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The only Idea I have so far is ^1.1 Chips per hand size beyond 8

safe sapphire
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I think we need to do something with losing handsize. Every time hand size decreases by 1: effect

livid dove
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Oh!

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^^1.2 Chips. Hand Size is reduced to 5.

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Just another excuse to use a Tetration. But this time It's justified.

safe sapphire
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Would be willing to try it.

livid dove
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If 1.2 is too much. Try 1.1

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Exotic Drunkard: Demolitio (Demolition)
^1.01 Mult per hand played.

Exotic Juggler: Atlas (Greek figure who holds the world)
^1.001 Chips per Discard.

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I think you know why I went for "Demolition"
Wink Wink

safe sapphire
livid dove
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"What makes me a good Drunkard?"

safe sapphire
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To be honest, I think it should be combined with offical fem's ideas.
Gives hand size equal to blinds defeated
Gives discards equal to blinds defeated

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Also, for Drunkards effect, it might be better on blurred joker

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I think you also mixed up juggler and drunkard's effects. Drunkard is discard

livid dove
safe sapphire
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That's fair. Still will try to incoperate some demo man elements into drunkards art though

livid dove
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A throwaway Idea:
Edition effects occur per trigger. (Excludes Blurred)

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Mainly effects jokers though

safe sapphire
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Don't they already? Or do you mean all editions activate with any trigger?

livid dove
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Well, playing cards trigger their edition when played, and again if retriggered. I was referring more to Jokers. As in A joker that takes effect from Hanging chad, or god forbid, Canvas

safe sapphire
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I see

velvet widget
opal plank
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this is the biggest this i've ever reacted with

velvet widget
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i thought i'd get railed for having that opinion 😭 i was under the impression that people thought otherwise

opal plank
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uh, no

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a lot of people dislike almanac

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not necessarily jen himself, but his mod

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and jen's... ideas, i guess

velvet widget
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Ahhh i see, it is what it is 😔

livid dove
opal plank
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And besides, who's idea was it to make a humble card game so edgy?
holy shit literally

gaunt crypt
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lurking here for a while and I gotta say that their joker is literally a character slapped on the legendary card
it's just so unoriginal

steep flame
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i have very mixed feelings on almanac

steep flame
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i dont like a lot of stuff they did with it but i do like some of the ideas there

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i wish there were more alternatives to it

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because almanac is sorta the only mod that really goes completely crazy with things for now

gaunt crypt
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I liked their tokens and uno card but damn I wished they were a separate mod instead of being bundled with almanac cry_sob

opal plank
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also jen kinda hates if you talk about being straight

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like

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at all

steep flame
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i never talk in the almanac server because jen sorta seems like they have kind of a short temper

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im constantly seeing them get mad at people

opal plank
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because they do

velvet widget
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crazy

opal plank
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that's... one way to put it

velvet widget
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i love the big numbers stuff, the themes, the images and whatnot are meh, and imo jen is the problem, though i have a weird brain so idk

steep flame
velvet widget
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yes if is

steep flame
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the design language in almanac is hard to digest

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but i do love the big numbers stuff as well

velvet widget
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it's easy to underwtand, they're ocs, indie game inserts and self-inserts

livid dove
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It's unfortunate too, because his QoL mods like Cartomancer and Incantation are very useful.
While I understand the detest towards Jen, let's not flood this thread with too much angry messages.

I don't wanna try and filter conversations, I'm just wanted to make sure we don't go on too much of a tangent or forget what this thread was in the first place.

steep flame
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also grinding for the "true ending" is repetetive and NOT fun

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yeah that's fair

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been lurking in this thread for a week or two now and this project looks like its gonna be amazing

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also, what does "pending" mean in the brainstorm sheet?

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does it mean there isn't an idea for it yet

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or that there is but it hasn't been agreed upon yet

opal plank
steep flame
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alr

opal plank
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as in, not agreed on; somebody just added it and nobody has said if it's good

steep flame
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i might try thinking of stuff

velvet widget
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all of the vanilla ones are filled in, but you're more than welcome to change or replace the ones i suggested, or at least the pending ones

steep flame
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ooo i might take a stab at chocolate die that seems fun

velvet widget
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i was thinking about naming it something akin to chocolate D1

steep flame
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yeah im gonna try chocolate die

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what if i made it a D20

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evil...

velvet widget
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what about caramel?

steep flame
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damn

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i am having trouble reading the chocolate die

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"hover for info" yeah right

gaunt crypt
steep flame
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perfect thank you

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i was reading the localization lua 😭

steep flame
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ok wtf is a potion

livid dove
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You have to use at least one. Each one gives a crippling effect

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Known as Maluses

steep flame
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ah

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i see

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i've been working on the exotic choco die effect for the past hour and ive only come up with 3/20 events

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what do yall think of this so far

tribal moth
steep flame
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i've finished my exotic chocolate die ideas, may tweak or rework some though, this is just sorta a rough draft

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(this took many hours)

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i was unsure wether i should make the lower sides' effects be more detrimental or less detrimental

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also some of these might be unfeasible to code

old drum
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working on an idea for this

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Potassio

All chances are 0
Round counters won't progress
(Doesn't affect rigged cards)

wintry owl
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why would a banana set chances to zero

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look
i like the idea
but it doesn't fit/match well

old drum
ebon minnow
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Or else it's just another oops all 6s

wintry owl
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oops! all 0s

old drum
wintry owl
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please add this

ebon minnow
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This shall be added

indigo helm
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Exotic Sock n Buskin: Laeta Tragoedia (Joyous Tragedy)

Retrigger all face cards, Wilds of 10/Stone (either of those) are considered Face Cards, and give ^2.01 Mult each time it retrigger

coarse blade
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misc legendary joker idea
RTGame
The tarot card Death can now be used on Jokers.
ie; can be used to make negative blueprint

indigo helm
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Inverse Legendary

nimble sundial
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idk if this is overplanning, but i think it'd be cool if exotic vouchers existed? like maybe for stuff like observatory

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but i dont know how much you could do with that other than "Gain 100 hands"

safe sapphire
coarse blade
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they're adding more now???????

safe sapphire
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At the very least I saw art for it. Don't know of it's actually happening or any time soon.

safe sapphire
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Still havent gotten word if its ok to use gemini as a base, so will wait to push taurus when I do.

river sluice
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God forbid rerolls happen

river sluice
nimble sundial
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like making death work on jokers?

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that seems fun

river sluice
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Joker Enhancements even

nimble sundial
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isnt that arleady a

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code card

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or is that from almanac i forgot

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wait no its a spectral

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yeah conduit does that

indigo helm
velvet widget
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gap

indigo helm
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both of those were made by the guy who made Seals on Jokers

worn kindle
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hey so uhhh i want to make ideas for this whar do i start to help

nimble sundial
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that you can edit

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just dont vandalize !!

worn kindle
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yippie

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okey

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if i press hide column will it do it for only me?

nimble sundial
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yeah i think so

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im not very

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familiar with google docs

worn kindle
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wait isnt exotic double scale just scalae?

nimble sundial
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yeah

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basically

worn kindle
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yay its already done for us

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whoopeee\

nimble sundial
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i mean maybe you could make it diff though like instead of going 1st degree then 2nd degree

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making it start at a 8th degree and not scaling yknow what i mean

worn kindle
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what if it made ALL jokers scale quadratically

nimble sundial
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like giving them all gemini ?

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but twice

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that'd be kinda cool

worn kindle
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like joker would be +4 mult each round quadratic

nimble sundial
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yeah

worn kindle
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that'd be fun

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name could be sumn like "ieiunium ortu" (fast rising)

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yah wait now that i thinklt thunkle

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that plus scalae is chaos

nimble sundial
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yeah maybe exclude scalea from it

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we'd be getting to jens levels of unbalanced

worn kindle
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yeah

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anyways wat should cursor be. gain X0.8 chips when item is bought, sold, or used?

nimble sundial
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sure

coarse blade
worn kindle
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okey

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can i put in my double scale suggestion?

safe sapphire
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sure

worn kindle
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okie

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what if for already scaling jokers its a degree 3 poly or sumn?

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for ieiunium ortu

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i need help with the double scale effect rn my brain is frying

safe sapphire
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I am also confused on what you are trying to convey

worn kindle
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the idea for exotic double scale is that every joker where possible scales (slightly confuised if it should be at end of round or at trigger.), and scaling is also faster (confused if i should keep it quadratic or make it faster) im also confused as to if jokers that scaled before (ex. green joker, canio, etc) should scaole faster than previously nonscaling jokers

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tldr: im confused when to scale, how fast, and if previously scaling ones should go faster.

safe sapphire
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I see

worn kindle
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like it would make sense for already scaling ones to go faster.

safe sapphire
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I don't think that beats Saclie. I am pretty set in stone at this point, double scale should just turn into Scalie

worn kindle
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fair point

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yeah that makes more sense

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i have a name for nice. "iocus ridiculam" (funny joke)

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also i just realize how macabre joker is gonna be weirs

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not to mention wtf we gonna do for labyrinth and panopticon

safe sapphire
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There was the idea to combine them, but I would like to avoid that if possible.

worn kindle
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hm.

worn kindle
coarse blade
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@velvet widget i feel like exotic todd is way too fucking busted

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permission to change?

worn kindle
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they offline

coarse blade
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when they come back

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that's why i pinged them lol

worn kindle
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okeyy

coarse blade
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kinda thought about it

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actually not that bad

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^^1.01 scales a lot slower than i thought

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hm

worn kindle
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could lnly be busted in not immutable opr with a fuckton of canvases

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/canvas retriggers

coarse blade
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true

worn kindle
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like its only gonna be busted with speculo/many invisibles and a canvas or a tenebris and canvas

coarse blade
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wait

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just used a calculator

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uhhhh

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it's wierd

worn kindle
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how so

coarse blade
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?????

worn kindle
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desmos be a fucky

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is tetration Ae10eB?

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a and b are variables

coarse blade
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not sure

worn kindle
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yeah idk

coarse blade
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hope this helps

worn kindle
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kk

coarse blade
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looks like 2's the base and 4's the power

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still don't know why it goes to 0 despite n above 1

worn kindle
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all the ones i see round it to 1 and make it just equal the base

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i searched 40^^1.01 and got laws wtf

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like state laws

river sluice
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Make Exotic Todd give +1 hand for every odd card that is played /j

safe sapphire
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I have been working on the art for Thanatos, Canio's exotic, and here is what I have so far. This Thanatos is based on the Kid Icarus version of the god. The background is a flat version of the gateway card, as the normal legendary background has a similar pattern to the soul stone. Thoughts on the art?

nimble sundial
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yeah thats pretty cool, i dont get what the things around him are, roots ??

safe sapphire
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I think? Honestly, I don't know why he has them. I assume it's related to a story about the god.

nimble sundial
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also i dont get what the order's exotic means

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" Converts all cards held in hand in order of ranks played."

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converts to what

coarse blade
coarse blade
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maybe just do ^1.1 chips instead of ^^1.1 chips?

coarse blade
# nimble sundial converts to what

play a straight (ie; 10-7-8-9-6)
1st card held in hand has its rank change into a 10
2nd card held in hand has its rank change into a 7
3rd card turns to an 8, rinse and repeat until last card is converted

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hope this helps

velvet widget
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Though the background feels like it's missing something tbh

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What if it had purple and black stripes?

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Similar to the hand jokers

safe sapphire
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I had the background white intially to match Canio's background

coarse blade
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now it just needs better gold detailing

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maybe add skulls?

safe sapphire
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Gotcha

safe sapphire
livid dove
coarse blade
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the overdesigning works really well with thanatos being an upgrade of a legendary imo

opal plank
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literally exactly what i thought of lmao

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this art is peak though

tribal moth
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i've been trying to design something for contra homo; here's what I have so far, something is definitely off about it but I can't put my finger on it/don't know how to fix it

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(also for those unaware; minotaur from 7-1, ultrakill)

safe sapphire
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Very interesting!

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One thing you can do is lighten outlining on the inside of the main body

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The main outline should be reserved for capturing the general shape of the figure, not define in detail.

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What you have now however is very nice! Keep at it and I will be happy to include it.

river sluice
tribal moth
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oops forgot something

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here's with a couple more adjustments

safe sapphire
#

That is looking better!

opal plank
#

question: i don't think i wrote the idea for diamond in the rough, yet my name is here

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an anonymous user edited it so i have no idea who added it

safe sapphire
#

Gotcha

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It sounds similar to an idea I mentioned for the stones

opal plank
#

btw i coded Avarus, Libido, Iram, and Gula

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it was very easy and definitely didn't take an absurd amount of time because i was trying to solve a bug that is literally unsolvable due to talisman

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all we need now is art

coarse blade
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progress is being made so fast

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good to see

opal plank
#

again, it was extremely simple

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this is the code like

SMODS.Joker {
    key = "greedy",
    config = { extra = { e_mult = 1.2 } },
    rarity = "cry_exotic",
    atlas = 'gbl_jokers',
    blueprint_compat = true,
    pos = { x = 3, y = 2 },
    soul_pos = { x = 4, y = 2, extra = { x = 5, y = 2 } },
    cost = 50,
    loc_vars = function(self, info_queue, card)
        return { vars = { card.ability.extra.e_mult } }
    end,
    calculate = function(self, card, context)
        if context.individual then
            if context.cardarea == G.play and context.other_card:is_suit('Diamonds') then
                return {
                    e_mult = card.ability.extra.e_mult,
                    card = card
                }
            end
        end
    end
}
#

tiny

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(btw don't copy this into the mod, there's some placeholder stuff)

river sluice
#

I'm sure we might have already decided on the look of the deadly sins jokers but I elect to have the art be recolors of the fullmetal alchemist deadly sins but with jimbo colors

tribal moth
# tribal moth here's with a couple more adjustments

Testing layering in-game, what I had in mind seems pretty good apart from the fact that it's only now where I learn that the third layer (!= soul layer) does not move independently, which is a bit of a bummer since the movement looks kinda awkward (only the front is moving) - but I digress

tribal moth
#

and here's my submission for Contra Homo; 1x and 2x respectively, Back -> Mid -> Fore

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and a scaled composite for viewing purposes

safe sapphire
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Amazing! Will try to get it in game soon!

tribal moth
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Thank you!

coarse blade
tribal moth
safe sapphire
#

Added Canio's exotic, Thanatos, to the github

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Will try to put in Contra Homo tommorow.

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Ignore the current value, it starts at 1

livid dove
gaunt crypt
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this person forgot the )

ebon minnow
#

There should be tetration in here

livid dove
#

Hyperjimbo in Morefluff was my first exposure to Tetrations. It’s only ^^1.04, yet that is still an insane amount

nimble sundial
livid dove
nimble sundial
#

yeah

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hes the sheet with all the jokers

livid dove
#

Otherwise, it could just be a simple case of misinterpretation. An easy fix!

nimble sundial
#

yeah maybe they meant ^3

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lemme edit it rq

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arl i made it more balanced

livid dove
#

Im glad im not in charge of typing out the notes. My keyboard is pretty old and is starting to do double strokes. Gonna get a new one soon. Maybe even this week if im lucky

ebon minnow
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I like that idea

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Makes tetration slightly balanced for the first time

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"^^1.03 mult, 1 in 1e307 chance of going extinct"

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Imagine

safe sapphire
#

Looking at Contra Homo, I think the effect is a little much. Currently its, " X7 dollars if played hand contains an ace or a 7". Compared to golden jokers exotic, which is X2 at the end of round with a chance to increase the multiplier, Contra would generate way more money,

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Should we maintain the ace and 7 from the original, or is there a better value to set the multiplier?

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I havent played Ultrakill so I dont know what would be thematic here

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Would x1.7 work?

old drum
#

Personally I think exotic cavendish should prevent cards from perishing in general

thin heron
nimble sundial
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^^1.36

thin heron
#

ok that sounds more reasonable

river sluice
#

also could be like an end of ante thing where it resets their perishable status too

worn kindle
#

do we have any ideas for like antennas to heaven yet? maybe the art for it couldbe similar to the cover art for the music for it

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nvm looked at nthe spreadsheet

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still like the idea of the art tho

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i had idea for celestial globe. "this joker gains ^0.1 chips if played hand contains [hand]"

river sluice
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kinda basic, maybe it could be like, an exponent chips multiplier for every unique hand played

opal plank
safe sapphire
#

Added Garden of Forking Paths's Exotic: Contra Homo to the Github!

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With this, we have now reached 15 jokers! Greatly appreciate all the help and support I have received to make this project a reality!

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Thank you to everyone who has contributed thus far!

worn kindle
#

congrats to all the work and checks mod forum very nearly 1500 messages!

opal plank
#

erm

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oh, btw i added the localization for the suit jokers in my pr

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it's completely done now, so all we need is art

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also 1500th message

worn kindle
#

YIPPIEE time to eat cookie Orb_cookienom

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i kinda wanna make concept/first draft art of joekrs to let ideas be solidified honestly

safe sapphire
#

At the same time, we could do what I was thinking for the greek gods in that each god comes from a different version of them in media

worn kindle
worn kindle
#

is there any ideas for some decks such as starting with the thing that ascends a joker?

safe sapphire
worn kindle
#

yeah. maybe another deck that lets you start with a random mortal card. maybe called ripple deck bc its not a spacetime wormhole just yet'

safe sapphire
#

It could also have an increased chance for ascension cards to appear

worn kindle
#

that

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is ASJKHDGSHJDFYGBSU good

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(that was me stimming btw)

worn kindle
#

what is the size of joker cards?

safe sapphire
#

A default Joker card is 69 x 93 pixels, though its true size is 71 x 95.

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The extra pixels are mostly a blank border to help with insertion into the atlas, but in certain instances, can be used to extend the art of the card.

tribal moth
#

That can be problematic tho, since it might introduce "bleeding pixels" between sprites (which is the reason for the 1px padding)

safe sapphire
#

Struggling for ideas for the design of the sinful jokers. Any ideas?

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Like, if I went with the media route, I could probably pull wrath from Isaac, but I don't know the others. I know Full Metal Alchemist is an option, but like I said earlier, I don't know if I could do it justice with my lack of knowledge.

livid dove
safe sapphire
livid dove
#

For example youll end up with $30.4

safe sapphire
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Yes. You are right. I could have made it a flat 2, but I thought the 7 was important. Havent played ultrakill though, so idk

livid dove
gaunt crypt
#

why did exotic brainstorm go from copying ability into giving XMult bonk

livid dove
indigo helm
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since it's Sinful = Sin City

safe sapphire
#

I dont know how I feel about adding a canablistic serial killer to this mod

indigo helm
#

fair 😭

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i forgot what he did

ebon minnow
thin heron
#

i have an idea what if exotic brainstorm just keeps its copy the leftmost joker ability but it gains retriggers whenever said leftmost joker triggers

opal plank
#

that’s kinda cool actually

livid dove
#

I have an idea for Exotic Boredom/Canvas.
+2 Mult
Increases operation every 50 Retriggers then raises required triggers X2

I hope @worn loom doesn't mind if I use one of their amazing Jokers as a base. If not, I'll get back to the drawing board.

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+2 > X2 > ^2 > ^^2 > ^^^2 > ^^^^2 > {5}2

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Perhaps every 100 Retriggers

opal plank
#

this is really cool but honestly doesn’t fit as an exotic for boredom/canvas

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i get that this effect heavily relates to retriggers, but realistically, canvas/boredom will be better than this most of the time

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maybe big cube? no idea

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all i know is that exotic versions of jokers should probably have similar effects to their counterparts, and not just similar keywords

livid dove
#

Perfectly fair

ebon minnow
thin heron
#

yeah thats gonna make it suck

opal plank
#

which is what it is now i believe

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actually

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have it start at x2 mult; it will take a long time for it to become even slightly useful otherwise

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or have it +2 mult, 25 retrigs, x2 retrigs

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pick your poison

thin heron
#

i think making it start at 2x mult would make it more useful

gaunt crypt
outer inlet
#

okay what jokers

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dont have

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any

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swapped rarities yet

velvet widget
#

the default jokers are all filled in, idk about the cryptid ones

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though you're more than welcome to change anything i wrote in the document

outer inlet
#

grr the joker exotic should give ^4 mult grrr

safe sapphire
#

I thought about that, but it would be unquestionably better than Facile.

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I thought it would be better to make it an attempt at a +mult exotic.

opal plank
#

yea

outer inlet
#

uh

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what about

#

m gains X13 mult whenever jolly joker is triggered

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the exotic m

opal plank
#

@velvet widget
for your bloodstone idea, i was thinking about changing it from
"Scored cards with the Heart suit give ^3 Mult
1 in 2 chance for played cards to be turned into Heart cards"
to
"Played cards with the Heart suit give ^1.5 Mult when scored
1 in 2 chance for played cards to be turned into Heart cards"

additionally, i was thinking of changing onyx agate's exotic from
"Scored cards with Club suit give x2 Mult
1 in 2 chance for played cards to be turned into Club cards"
to
"Played cards with Club suit give X8 Mult when scored
1 in 2 chance for played cards to be turned into Club cards"

outer inlet
#

happy house exotic should be ^^4 mult after scoring 114 cards

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not 114 unique cards

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just 114 cards in general

opal plank
#

pfp change mid-conversation 🔥

outer inlet
#

🗣️

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im doing it for the bit

opal plank
#

like, disastrously big

outer inlet
#

womp womp ^^5

opal plank
#

if it was your idea, it would easily be the best exotic in the game for scoring

outer inlet
#

should it just be

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^4 then

opal plank
#

i think the current effect is good

outer inlet
#

what even

#

is

#

the current effect

opal plank
#

^^4 Mult & Chips, only after playing (current number of hands played * 2) hands. Flavortext: Every thousand years, a bird flies to the largest mountain on Earth and sharpens its beak on the mountain’s stone. When the mountain is worn down to nothing but a pebble, a second of eternity has passed.

outer inlet
#

wait

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isnt that just

#

infinite that

#

then

opal plank
#

yes

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i'm joking

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the actual thing i want is what you listed earlier

opal plank
#

so like, when a card is scored, it can no longer be counted, i guess

outer inlet
#

^4 mult after scoring 114 unique cards?

opal plank
#

^^4

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since that's pretty hard; you need at least 114 cards

outer inlet
#

mr bones

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prevents all death ever

opal plank
#

current effect kinda-ish
"prevents death if score is atleast 25%, this joker gains ^1.5 mult when that happens."

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it was informal, but i like this

outer inlet
opal plank
#

"All Flushes and Straights can be played with 2 cards"

outer inlet
#

flush pair 🗣️

opal plank
#

peak

outer inlet
#

flush three

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flush four

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flush two pair

opal plank
#

given that flush two pair/four of a kind doesn't exist when using four fingers in vanilla, these aren't accurate

outer inlet
#

d'oh

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this mod

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should contain

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exotics 2

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which are exotics

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but

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even more exotic

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(joke)

opal plank
#

so, on the spreadsheet, sum duo is listed as the following, but in-game, only the italicized part is actually done

^2 Mult if played hand contains a Pair
Converts all cards to held in hand to same rank as played hand

should it be remove from being "Done"?

outer inlet
#

idk

opal plank
#

@safe sapphire?

outer inlet
#

actually a mod that makes a buffed version of every joker with the rarity buffed by one

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would be kinda fun

opal plank
#

ascensio is close enough lmao

outer inlet
#

True...

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wheres descensio

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where every joker becomes common

opal plank
#

sob

safe sapphire
#

Sorry, whats up?

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I saw the extra part of duo was added

opal plank
#

it was?

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oh you mean in the sheet

safe sapphire
#

Right. I think it might be good to help differentiate it. If it activates when playing the specifc hand it could work.

opal plank
#

yeah

outer inlet
#

can i still give ideas for exotics that already are claimed

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like throwback

opal plank
#

i'm just tryna get all the easier jokers to code, coded, but i just kinda forgot about that part on the sheet

opal plank
outer inlet
#

well no i just kinda wanna give the idea

opal plank
#

right

opal plank
outer inlet
#

Throwbexotic (throwback exotic)
If you skip the Small Blind and Big Blind of this Ante, the Ante will not go up when you beat the Boss Blind

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probably should be limited time use

opal plank
outer inlet
#

as to where it isnt related very much?

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uh

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cryptposting we go i guess

opal plank
#

i like the idea of it, i just feel like the original can literally be better in many scenarios

velvet widget
#

Something something destroy joker to the right and retrigger the joker to the left for each joker destroyed this way

opal plank
#

i'll see if i can shape it into something

velvet widget
#

Yeee

opal plank
#

Pigmentum Joker
When Blind selected, destroy Joker to the right and add its rarity value to n
Retrigger all Jokers n times
-# (Common/Uncommon = 0, Uncommon = 1, Rare = 2, etc)
(Currently 0 Retriggers)
Exotic Ascended Canvas

#

hm

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tbh i feel like the normal canvas might often be more powerful than this

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but i don't want to buff it by making the retriggers n and not n/2

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that would make it way way way too broken

safe sapphire
#

Right. Maybe we just exclude commons and uncommons then and make it n?

opal plank
#

sure

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(ignore it being legendary)

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tbh if this is agreed upon i could probably code it right now

ebon minnow
ebon minnow
opal plank
opal plank
safe sapphire
#

I think its fine if you think so.

opal plank
#

well good because i already started coding it lmao

outer inlet
#

i think the tenebris nerf should be like

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+2 Joker Slots, earn $5 at the end of round?

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this isnt very related at all but i feel like the scalae nerf should be "Scaling Jokers have a 1 in 4 chance to scale another Joker when scaled"

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iterum could be something like "Scored cards either retrigger or give X2 Mult when scored"

safe sapphire
#

Maybe

#

Right now, this is what I have for Lusty Joker. This would also act as a template for the other sinful jokers. Thoughts?

river sluice
#

actually this would be way better than my idea

worn kindle
#

im making concept art for identity crisis rn

#

featuring jolly

ebon minnow
worn kindle
ebon minnow
#

.

worn kindle
#

concept art for identity crisis

#

oh

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ermmm

#

o7, ante 1 run\

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also what mod adds the cube tag you have?

opal plank
ebon minnow
#

Oh I forgot that it's called attention

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I used important

opal plank
#

yea

opal plank
#

that would be uh

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one sec

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{X:mult,C:white}

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xchips is {X:chips,C:white}, and ^mult/chips is {X:dark_edition,C:white}

ebon minnow
#

Ooo

#

Cool

#

Thanks a lot

#

Money is just c:money right?

opal plank
#

i believe so

wintry owl
ebon minnow
#

Ok ok
Maybe we should lean this back to jokers

opal plank
#

it may be {C:dollars}

ebon minnow
opal plank
ebon minnow
#

Oh

worn kindle
#

haow do i make the text stop being xmult

opal plank
#

wdym

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in what example?

worn kindle
opal plank
worn kindle
#

oe

#

tyyy

opal plank
#

is anything wrong or something?

ebon minnow
#

The text should be white right?

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In the ^mult

opal plank
#

the text? oh true

#

hm

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i believe that's a bug

ebon minnow
#

ok then I have to live

#

With it

opal plank
#

well, it's normal in-game so

ebon minnow
worn kindle
#

how the hell do i make code for the joekers

opal plank
#

it's peak

worn kindle
#

the identity cruisis

opal plank
worn kindle
#

yeah, current function for it is "x1 mult, doubles for each enhanced card in deck."

opal plank
#

yeah

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i literally made the effect

#

lmao

worn kindle
#

oh i didnt see lmfao

#

how di i do smaltext in thje thinky

opal plank
#

one moment

worn kindle
#

oekay

opal plank
#

{s:0.8} will make text 0.8 its normal size

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you can combine this with something like inactive by doing {C:inactive,s:0.8}

ebon minnow
#

Add this /hhj

opal plank
#

peak

ebon minnow
opal plank
#

purple? i don't think so

#

oh you mean like

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{C:tarot}?

ebon minnow
#

Ye

#

Ok then

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Could do the same for the others right

opal plank
#

yea

#

i just realized that identitatis discrimine isn't even agreed upon

#

and i'm doing code for it

#

whatever

#

lmao

worn kindle
#

is for funnies

ebon minnow
#

Ok exotic uhh

#

Tredecim and Gemini's alternatives could be m and oil lamp respectively

#

Idk

#

Ran out of ideas

worn kindle
#

i feel like M is better mortal verion than m

#

but to be fair the version we got rn is good enough

outer inlet
opal plank
#

i have a question for you guys
which joker is better in your opinion; not gameplay-wise (obviously), but design-wise

Identitatis Discrimine Joker
X1 Mult
Doubles for each Enhanced card in full deck
Exotic Ascended Driver's License

or

Identitatis Discrimine Joker
X1 Mult
Doubles for each Modification in full deck
Exotic Ascended Driver's License
so, for example, if i had a foil steel ace of spades with a red seal, it would count as 3 modifications and would therefore make this joker give x8 mult

ebon minnow
#

Second is wow

worn kindle
#

the second one feels more broken and feels good. also makes it so you cant just max it out by starting with an enhancement deck

worn kindle
#

mwehehe

opal plank
worn kindle
#

taps fingies like a villain

opal plank
#

actually, lemme test the current code (v1) on mult deck

ebon minnow
#

Imagine it being exponential and +0.05(?) for each modification

opal plank
#

oh hell naw

worn kindle
#

oh hell naw

outer inlet
#

wait is there gonna be

#

more blinds

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in this mod

opal plank
#

probably not but maybe?

ebon minnow
#

Possibly

worn kindle
#

are the hyperblinds their own mod?

outer inlet
#

confused cause you guys were talking about blinds i think idfk

opal plank
worn kindle
#

oh okay

opal plank
opal plank
outer inlet
#

smh

worn kindle
#

yeah, only gets you to about ante 14 ish, rookie numpers /j

ebon minnow
#

+X4 mult

outer inlet
#

it should be ^ smh

worn kindle
#

should be ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^joel immutable

ebon minnow
#

+{25000}0 mult for each card in your collection and all decks.

worn loom
#

it should be {infinity}N

worn loom
#

rounded down to -inf

outer inlet
#

rounded up to -14

worn loom
#

?????

ebon minnow
#

Rounded diagonally to -i

worn kindle
#

rounded sideways to pi

worn loom
ebon minnow
worn kindle
#

mounded morwards mo m

outer inlet
#

help

ebon minnow
#

There shall be a new suit called m

worn kindle
opal plank
#

good lord

#

i'm posting this link every day at this point

worn kindle
#

get a deck size of 1024 and get naneinf xmult

opal plank
#

HOLY FUCK I'M TWEAKING
I GOT THIS SHIT TO WORK KILL ME NOW

Identitatis Discrimine Joker
X1 Mult
Doubles for each Modification in remaining deck
Exotic Ascended Driver's License

#
SMODS.Joker{
    key = "drivers_license",
    pos = {x = 0, y = 0},
    rarity = "cry_exotic",
    cost = 50,
    config = {extra = {base_mult = 1}},
    blueprint_compat = false,
    atlas = "v_atlas_1",
    loc_vars = function(self, info_queue, card)
        local mod_count = 0
        if G and G.deck and G.deck.cards then
            for _, c in ipairs(G.deck.cards) do
                -- Count any edition (foil, holo, polychrome, etc.)
                if c.edition then
                    mod_count = mod_count + 1
                end
                -- Count any seal
                if c.seal then
                    mod_count = mod_count + 1
                end
                -- Count any enhancement
                if c.ability.set == "Enhanced" then
                    mod_count = mod_count + 1
                end
            end
        end
        return {
            vars = {
                card.ability.extra.base_mult * (2^mod_count)
            }
        }
    end,
    calculate = function(self, card, context)
        if context.joker_main and not context.blueprint then
            local mod_count = 0
            if G and G.deck and G.deck.cards then
                for _, c in ipairs(G.deck.cards) do
                    -- Count any edition
                    if c.edition then
                        mod_count = mod_count + 1
                    end
                    -- Count any seal
                    if c.seal then
                        mod_count = mod_count + 1
                    end
                    -- Count any enhancement (using set instead of name)
                    if c.ability.set == "Enhanced" then
                        mod_count = mod_count + 1
                    end
                end
            end
            
            return {
                x_mult = 2^mod_count
            }
        end
        return nil
    end
}
safe sapphire
#

Wonderful!

opal plank
#

now to fix a bunch of stuff

worn kindle
#

good job!

#

also here the concept art but transparent correctly

safe sapphire
#

Question: How does this tie into the idea of an identity crisis?

worn kindle
#

he realizing that he is not the true joker and is just looking at his hand, thinking about hiexistance. then again, its just concept art and basically just a doodle.

safe sapphire
#

I see

worn kindle
#

hey so umm

#

i cant make any of the modded jokers with pointer

#

from this mod*

safe sapphire
#

You could with the mortal forms of the normal exotics. Other than that it is normal behavior for pointer.

worn kindle
#

oe

#

ty

safe sapphire
#

Idea for identity crisis art. Recently, local thunk stated Jen joker uses mass transit and is an engineer. What if the art was Jen dressed as an engineer on a bus or subway?

river sluice
#

jen joker?

safe sapphire
#

That's the joker on the driver's license

#

Which is what identity crisis is ascended from.

river sluice
#

I was thinking of it just being a hand that has clown paint with Jimbo's colors dripping off of it to reveal a blue hand (jolly joker)

#

or some other hand idk

safe sapphire
#

That is also good, and is similar to the vibe given by sordh's concept art.

river sluice
#

feel like it fits with the exotic vibe a bit more, being kind of abstract and unique

safe sapphire
#

Thats fair

river sluice
#

not to say sordh's idea is bad btw I think it could still have its appeal

#

I'm mostly just taking into consideration that exotics in cryptid are more just, objects

livid dove
opal plank
indigo helm
#

on an unrelated note, there's a new tool you guys can use to visualize a joker

livid dove
velvet widget
#

which means excessive and toxic sexual or romantic attraction

opal plank
#

libido is uh... known though

velvet widget
#

😔

#

fine then ill make it in my own mod Suprised

#

these are all awesome

safe sapphire
#

With blackjack and hookers?

velvet widget
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quar

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why do you jave a house

safe sapphire
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Some of my art is in the cryptid mod

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To be fair with your suggestion, it is an excellent name and is often used as another descriptor for a sin. I think we can stick with our current name, however, for the reason Kirekat stated. I do like the thought you put into it, and I encourage you to name some of the other cards that still need Latin names.

velvet widget
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sir yes sir

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also i was kidding abt the other message, i'm impressed with how you people name things so easily

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when i write i always get stuck on character, magic and artifact names because i want to give them the perfect weight, but usually just a random names does it perfectly yk

safe sapphire
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Whenever I get into something, whether it be work or art, I often find the hardest aspect is simply starting. The fear of making something perfect, for me at least, is a major hindrance to productivity when I let it control me. At times, you just need to start jotting down what you can on a page, then go back to fill in the gaps that might have been left. Like with writing, you often need to work backwards to get something excellent. What I'm trying to say is don't get hung up on details like those, as the primary work should naturally inform the name, not vice versa.

velvet widget
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typa shit 4 people will read ever but should be quoted in lectures bro i appreciate your words

opal plank
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yes

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this is pretty much what i strive to do

livid dove
ebon minnow
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Exotic filler would be "^^10 mult if mult is 1"

livid dove
ebon minnow
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Finally a good balanced tetration

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Jonkler

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But if you think about it
1.2 is a lot

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Maybe tetration before scoring like hyperjimbo from more fluff

indigo helm
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god damn

tribal moth
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welcome back chaos

velvet widget
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oh man i hooes i gets a good birthday!
evils birthday cake:

livid dove
ebon minnow
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Perfect

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I love tetration
Sound wise and function wise
So I hope it's getting added

indigo helm
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Sum Duo tweaking

ebon minnow
ebon minnow
tribal moth
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Thinking: Ace Aequilibrium -> Ace of Game (Epic)
Assumes the effect of a random Joker, changes every hand (Exotic Jokers excluded)

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"assumes effect of random Joker" is probably an already tried effect within the Cryptid ecosystem, so it could instead be "...of a Joker in order of the Collection"

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As for artwork, could probably be a playing card with the suit being the logo "staff"

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I think mortal Aceae should be Epic because a card that is still based on the game itself should still be of elevated status

opal plank
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though it’s definitely rare if this is the effect

tribal moth
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that's fair

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I wasn't sure whether "assume the effect of a Joker" is a Rare-ish or Epic-ish effect

brisk violet
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Baron --> Lord of the Kings
Every played card becomes a king.
All kings held in hand become steel and gets a red seal.
Each king held on hand gives X4 mult

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As for art it would be baron sitting on a throne.

opal plank
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i feel like my baron effect is better ish

brisk violet
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Whats yours

opal plank
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imo exotic versions of jokers shouldn’t just be “number upgrade with some other small value”

opal plank
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^^(nX0.1+1) Mult, where n is the number of Kings held in hand

brisk violet
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What if we combine the 2

opal plank
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ehh

river sluice
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probably would be a lot

opal plank
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i feel like it would be really broken then

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even just my idea is already really, really good

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i might nerf it

brisk violet
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I may add it to The Exponentia Mod

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Mime --> Mime Prime
Retrigger in hand effects n times were n is the number of cards drawn this bind

tribal moth
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i fkng
cant do hands 😭

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im trying to make the exotic for to the moon based on the name currently given to it, do these little marionette puppet handle things, and the strings are like stock graphs n stuff

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here's a bit of a visualization for the idea i had for this joker

fiery obsidian
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Is this mod compatible with almanac/polterworx?

tribal moth
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this mod is designed for up-to-date cryptid, im not sure how that entails with polterworx (last i checked it's stable on an outdated cryptid version)

fiery obsidian
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Okay thanks

safe sapphire
nova pasture
# ebon minnow Finally a good balanced tetration

There’s no way an entire level of hyperop above base game will ever be balanced. Kind of like saying “half chips but ^1.2 mult” in unmodded balatro. It’s too strong and there’s no way to balance it

tribal moth
indigo helm
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daniel and cooler daniel

safe sapphire
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If I dont disable picking up one version if you have the other, there is definetly gonna be an achievment for having both an ascension and its mortal form at the same time.

velvet widget
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i hope you'll allow having both

safe sapphire
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It would be a config either way (probably off by default)

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No reason to completely ban the option

indigo helm
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ic ic

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this mod pops alot if you have this used

tribal moth
tribal moth
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thank you!

indigo helm
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something like this

livid dove
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If there’s room, one of the stocks should be M

tribal moth
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h m m m m m m

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i like this idea

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ill try it after i sleep

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or maybe if i can figure out how to telepathically work on art in my sleep then i can get something going sooner

safe sapphire
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Got Gluttony done based on what I did for lusty. I think I might go back and touch up the boarder, but for now this is fine. Two more to go

livid dove
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This and Entropy are my two most hyped mods at the moment, and you’ve just increased that hype!

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Its amazing how much detail one can cram into a small sprite

indigo helm
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i wish i could play Entropy on the latest smods, i can only run Ascēnsiō

fervent sierra
safe sapphire
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Messing with Thanatos. Apparently they dont respawn face cards if they are debuffed, so be aware I guess.

coarse blade
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cool

thin heron
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i mean, that makes sense i think

fiery obsidian
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is there any downloadable mod for this?

spring grove
safe sapphire
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Also, an idea for Necromancer (which may or may not be based on a pilot that recently dropped):
Ater Manus (Dark Hand)
Any joker that is destroyed is recreated at x1.2 base stats. Increase by x1.2 for each joker revived this way. Sold jokers appear in the next shop as negative.

This might be a bit much, so some thoughts would be apperciated.

tribal moth
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Seems alright to me, at least for an exotic

worn loom
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is this not infinite? or does destroyed mean not selling also does it work on itself

safe sapphire
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Destroyed means not selling. I'm talking about actions like the dagers or possibly gateway

tribal moth
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i think i just need to double up the width

spring grove
tribal moth
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the problem is also in the stock graph on the edges, and i dont think i have enough comfortable room here to add an outline on all that stuff

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here we go

spring grove
safe sapphire
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That looks wonderful!

thin heron
safe sapphire
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Would it be fine if gateway/ascension were excluded?

thin heron
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yeah i think they should be excluded cause you'd basically be negating the downside of both of them + it'd just be a free oil lamp on all of the jokers that were supposed to be destroyed

tribal moth
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before i submit the to the moon exotic, i wanna change the name given to it, because "Stirpe Manipulation" doesn't exactly work; "stirpes" or "stirps" refers more to plants, specifically the rootstock

fiery obsidian
indigo helm
tribal moth
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(there isnt a satisfactory latin word for economy, market, etc)

safe sapphire
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What about pecūnia dominus, "master of money"

tribal moth
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oh that might work even better, ties better with the whole thing with "to the moon" too

tribal moth
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ok doneeee :> (1x, 2x; back -> mid -> fore)

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and the scaled composite

opal plank
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peak 🔥

safe sapphire
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Putting it in immediatly! Awesome work as always!

tribal moth
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Thank you!

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I'm having a blast with making these sprites, it's a lot of fun trying to figure out how to turn the elements of the original Jokers up to eleven in the exotic forms

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I think I gotta help out with the Agreed/In-Dev stuff tho lol

mental veldt
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Zenith (Exotic Maximized)
All cards are considered Wild Aces. All rank and suit-based Joker effects are active. All rank and suit-based Blind effects are inactive.

karmic bough
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wild card found dead in a ditch

safe sapphire
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Added To The Moon's Ascension: Pecunia Dominus to the Github!

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I tried to make it a variable, but it gave me fits. Will just leave it like this if no one has a problem with that.

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The mod is also apparently making things cost 3 times less as well

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Yeah, it's kinda funky at the moment. I will see about getting a fixed for it tommorow.

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Actually nevermind its fine? After restarting I think the issue dissapeared. Let me know if anyone encounters any issues with it.

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Found the issue, uploading the fix
The issue is still there, just in a different form. When I try to remove the modifier after the exotic is removed, it makes purchases cost less, but when I don't, the effect is still there after its sold. Will need to look at choclate dice more to see how this issue is dealt with.

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Hi everyone, this is prolly my first message in this server, I'm very interested in this mod development (beside cryptid ofc) so I figured, might contribute some art here and there (this is my first venture to pixel art too so bear with me 🙂 ),
so I choose Inanis (og. Joker Stencil) for my first try since I figure out it prolly wouldn't be that bad even if I screw that bad, I choose concept of "infinity mirror" since it let me use the dark color to represent "Empty" and negative conversion
I figure it might be look a bit tech-ish so I add minor detail here and there beside of the stencil icon and the effect
now, I can't do in game visual testing since I have no knack at doing that so if someone could help, that'll be great
Here's the pic in order: composite, 1x, 2x

tribal moth
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Ooh, that looks really cool!

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I'll do in-game testing

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No pixel smoothing, with pixel smoothing

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I also noticed that this layer is off by one pixel (breaching into the 1px margin that prevents pixel bleeding)

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@agile flint

agile flint
agile flint
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Thanks for the feedback before, I simplify the design a bit so it doesn't have information as dense as before, while also shrunk the frame by around 2 pixels (it isnt even symmetrical size before), lmk if there's something I need to add (img in order, composite, 1x, 2x) (p.s. I just realize the composite doesnt have frame oops)

agile flint
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Also, here's my rendition for "Mitosis" (og. DNA) while I'm still at it, now I have to finish my other art that I neglect for some time (img order: 1x, 2x, composite), the color might be too dark now I just realize, but lmk if I need to brighten the dark part a bit

indigo helm
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i love the art so much

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but i think the border could use some more details

coarse blade
indigo helm
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since every exotics border is