im only gonna add more spectrals if anything anyway
#Entropy - A Very Chaotic Balatro Mod
bronze patio
torn wave
Disgorge (Twisted Oblivion)
- Add Miasma Edition to 4 random held cards
bronze patio
idk what to do for the platinum seal
primal pulsar
2k messages
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primal pulsar
reverse gold seal is kill
bronze patio
i needed to setup the draw function to use the right shader
primal pulsar
ah
bronze patio
primal pulsar
actually how does silver/bismuth sea look like
tawny lotus
Silver
bronze patio
its pinned
proper pond
So yes I am stupid, thanks for your help though!
Should've checked that first XD
Does Entropy not work with Jens Almanac?
bronze patio
currently incompatible due to using differeing cryptid versions
slender anvil
also due to almanac being bad
bronze patio
i mean same thing but w/e
plush apex
Got myself a crash on startup using this mod and I believe Ascensio, just to let y'all know
is there a particular thing I should've done instead or is this an unresolved bug
ah I actually read up, sorry for the trouble y'all
primal pulsar
i like the idea but it needs some risk
bronze patio
its almost the same as +1 joker slot if you use it right
bronze patio
its almost the same as +1 joker slot if you use it right
but you have to use it on a joker that youll always keep for this to be true
primal pulsar
i mean
there are a LOT of good picks for a run
unless you're going like, astronomically high antes then this is just a "free" joker slot if used correctly
bronze patio
maybe +1 ante since thats usually the downside for things like this
primal pulsar
i was thinking of maybe -1 discard but i think this works, although a little repetitive sometimes
burglar
bronze patio
-1 discard might be more interesting it can be mitigated more easily than +1 ante but also it might be better still
reverse spectrals will be really rare
primal pulsar
it's worth experimenting around if -1 discard is better or if you should stick with the good old +1 ante
bronze patio
🔥
primal pulsar
glitched ❤️
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Hammerspace -> Fusion
apply a random card of the selected cards type as an enhancement to up to 3 selected playing cards
so if you select a joker 3 random cards in hand become joker playing cards
blazing tinsel
Am I running a wrong version of something? I redownloaded everything and took away all my other mods to see if they conflicted but I can't seem to get it to open
blazing tinsel
oh shit sorry I didn't see that thank you
bronze patio
this is gonna be a lot of work
wet tusk
this is gonna be a lot of work
how about jamais vu for deja vu? since its basically the inverse anyways, rendezvous just rhymes
bronze patio
rendezvous was how i originally got the idea
it reroutes the triggers to be after
but i might change it
update btw
erase is based on a bug i saw in bug reports btw
bronze patio
does anyone have ideas for what to do for wraith and summoning
plush apex
I probably am pushing my luck trying to do a bunch more mods but this appears to be my error this time
bronze patio
the loader file was missing somehow prob just a bad install
plush apex
Well now that I've gotten it working, idk if this is a bug or feature but when I choose a pack from a multipack, it goes into my consumable inventory and when I use the pack, it drains my money into the negatives
I'm not sure if the mod does that or if cryptid does that I'm just wondering
bronze patio
pack draining money is unintentional but packs going to consumables is semi-intended
packs in packs are meant to go to consumables to prevent weird bugs with #define but it applying to multipacks is just a side effect of not thinking of crossmod enough
plush apex
fair enough
probably is worth taking a look at pretty much only for the draining money thing
bronze patio
its probably just the :open function subtracting money when you do it
and i never noticed
oh yeah it does do that
wow reverse perkeo is absolutely garbage with it working like that
plush apex
and with multi pack if you get any exotic packs you're screwed because all your money will be gone
bronze patio
try updating entropy now and see if that fixes it
plush apex
Yea I'll check it after tomorrow probably
blissful saddle
big
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if this wording is unclear which it might be cleansing a 7 removed 6 chips from how much it would score so you gain 3 dollars for that card
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ranks and suits are banned
slender anvil
hate
hate
let me tell you how much ive come to hate you
that is so fucking cruel
what have these cards done to you 😭
bronze patio
this is payback for all the very fair deck ascendant stake runs
my 2 jokers for almost the entire run were stencil and caramel
bronze patio
so true
tawny lotus
add functionality to the dog tag: clicking it takes a screenshot
And secretly sends it to @bronze patio
Without you ever knowing
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send it into a secret entropy server
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idk about this one
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might add a search bar to the collection at some point
for decrement and the 1 exotic this mod currently adds
slender anvil
waw
bronze patio
i find myself just spamming the collection arrows to use decrement more than id like
slender anvil
maybe add a notched slider as an alt to the arrows?
bronze patio
that can work
i wanna add a search bar where when you search for something it brings you to the collection page of that thing
slender anvil
makes sense
bronze patio
or a keybind to open the collection for selected cards
slender anvil
O
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wet tusk
might add a search bar to the collection at some point
omg please
im constantly spamming the arrow keys to use ctrl+3 for testing
bronze patio
what if reverse immolate was none synnergy
slender anvil
None synergy?
primal pulsar
Polterplasm
reverse Ectoplasm
Select a Joker, multiply its values by 2.5x, but apply Rental and Flickering stickers
Charm
reverse Hex
Select a Joker, make it Astral and Eternal, banish a random joker
-1 hand
Rejuvenation
reverse Immolate
Select a card, apply a random Seal, Enchantment and Edition (Astral excluded), then convert 4 random cards into that card
-$15
slender anvil
Ectoplasm -> Ichor
Banish a random negative joker
(only if a joker got banished)
a random Negative joker gains +2 Joker Slots and loses its edition
plush apex
Ward (Wraith Reverse)
Destroy all Jokers, and gain 4X the sell price for all sold Jokers.
Or if it needs to be stronger then destroy all Jokers and grant Joker slots equal to the amount of Jokers destroyed
bronze patio
i think 4x money is fine
a little niche but really powerful when you can make use of it
especially with cards like ctrl+x, lock and weld
primal pulsar
I wanted to do a card that could unbanish a joker at a hefty price, but I dont think I can find a fitting card to make it opposite as
it's name would be Sheol or smth
bronze patio
it can always be the inversion of a new spectral card when i add new consumables
plush apex
Could be its own unique consumable thats torn ancient scroll themed
like it looks like a torn page from some magic book and it could be classified as like a Spell
bronze patio
basically all consumables i add from this point on will need associated inversions too
twice as much work but it'll be worth it
i can outsource some of the work when enough people become interested in the mod anyway
plush apex
like it looks like a torn page from some magic book and it could be classified a...
Also could be something called "Ritual" or "Rites" and it could be extremely rare (like soul levels of rare maybe if it can unbanish things)
bronze patio
unbanishing things would probably have to be a rare consumable but idk if ill add a new consumable type for that anytime soon
i wanted to add a rare consumable type thing for standard packs though
plush apex
infused cards that grant a permanent hand or discard if destroyed
tardy river
Also could be something called "Ritual" or "Rites" and it could be extremely rar...
spectral card called ritual? what if it, like, added negative mosaic or astral to one selected card
plush apex
I'm talking about sum other shit
Rites could be a good name for a unique consumable if it's torn page themed
bronze patio
inverse of ritual is nearly actually coded btw i just need the shader to be done not really in a rush for that though
its like a funky version of the astral edition but its fun still
this is roughly equivalent to x1.25^(1.4^n) mult where n is the number of solar card triggers but not really
its a bit different from that
plush apex
Actually if anyone's not done smth
Homunculus (Replica)
Destroy all but one Joker, -1 Ante
At least if Replica is the card I'm thinking of
bronze patio
replica already has an effect
"for each card in discard pile: convert to a random card held in hand"
plush apex
Oh yeah right I forgot
bronze patio
although this might be useless if you get it in a pack
plush apex
Disavow (Sigil Reverse)
Remove all seals from cards held in hand, and gain $2 per Gold Seal, give a random card Chips based on its rank per Red Seal, gain a Planet for every Blue Seal and gain a Tarot for every Purple Seal (must have room for Planets and Tarots)
probably could come up with more once I remember what the other seals do
bronze patio
what about the reversed seals
cerulean is meant to say that it creates 3 negative copies actually
plush apex
maybe could be just lumped in with the other effects for each inverse
I forgot about green and azure seals fuck 💀
bronze patio
i like the idea though
primal pulsar
Siphon
reverse Aura
Remove an Edition from a Joker. Depending on what Edition was removed, apply the following effect:
Foil = +1 discard for 2 Antes
Holographic = +1 hand size for 2 Antes
Polychrome = +1 hand for 2 Antes
Negative = +1 discard permamently (can be tweaked to smth else)
Glitched = Add 2, 1 or remove 1 hand/discard permamently, and add 7,4 or remove 3 dollars
Mosaic = +1 hand permamently
Oversaturated = Creates a negative Payload and a negative Multiply
Fragile = Turn 5 cards in your deck to Glass
Golden = Turn 5 cards in your deck to Gold Cards
Blurred = Turn 3 cards in your deck to Echo
Noisy = Create a Interference and a negative Misprint
Astral = downgrade to Mosaic, +1 Joker slot
Jolly = 
Editions from other mods that get siphoned give either the effects of a siphoned Foil, Holographic, Polychrome or Negative effects
Feel free to tweak a bunch of these because I feel like I might have gotten overboard with a few of them
bronze patio
i feel like it should probably be 1 unified effect that gets stronger based on the edition rather than a bunch of unique effects cause this will be a lot of wiki reading or a long ass description
which i want to avoid because some other mods do that and its annoying
primal pulsar
actually you have a point there 😭
bronze patio
siphon could probably just destroy an editioned joker and give cards held in hand the same or a lower edition
primal pulsar
yeah that seems more reasonable and simpler to understand/code in
bronze patio
similar to conduit but its different because conduit can give jokers editions and doesnt require fuel
plus analog and ankh are basically the same exact card
slender anvil
bronze patio
looks pretty good I think
slender anvil
but its not what i wantedddd
minor hearth
where can I download this mod?
slender anvil
where can I download this mod?
it's pinned in this thread :)
slender anvil
homosexual shader?
tardy river
wokentropy
primal pulsar
homosexual shader?
honestly this is way better than my idea of a rainbow gay seal
fresh magnet
Really excited for the development of this mod. Can't wait until it's supports latest releases. For now though, I can't seem to get it to boot. But I'm not too bothered since it's pretty early in developent.
Keep up the great work!
primal pulsar
Really excited for the development of this mod. Can't wait until it's supports l...
are you sure you're using the cryptid version with bignum support and experimental talisman? i had to switch my cryptid versions from recent to bignum for it to work
sinful cloak
fresh magnet
That's better. I see so much potential in this!
The Surreal Joker definitely got my attention. I don't think i've ever seen =Mult before. Wonder how that works
tepid lodge
homosexual shader?
lol
sinful cloak
gatropy
bronze patio
they made entropy woke
tawny lotus
That's better. I see so much potential in this!
The Surreal Joker definitely got...
It sets the mult to 4
Maybe it's my idea
Since I started this =mult thing
= tomorrow
I made it look like glop until she actually implemented it
fresh magnet
It sets the mult to 4
Seems like a Crutch.
tawny lotus
Seems like a Crutch.
The apparent use of it is that sometimes or some bosses send you to decimals or negatives, so this just sets it to 4 no matter wha6
bronze patio
i mean the main use of it is that its dumb on purpose but it is actually applicable sometimes
tawny lotus
Lesbian
primal pulsar
close enough
bronze patio
i mean the sprites arent final so i could add orange in there
tawny lotus
if you mean the color scheme its missing the orange
The shine makes red look orange
bronze patio
im gonna love doing reverse grim btw you dont even know
crimson seal is still super janky
playing a hand with non crimson seal cards doesnt trigger the crimson seal
sinful cloak
seals are janky in general in recent times
bronze patio
i mean crimson seal is extra janky because its messing with trigger order
but i think this is because of a change i made to make sure crimson seals only trigger if its in the scoring hand
if i get lazy ill just make crimson seal make it always trigger which is way more op but whatever i hope that doesnt come to that
nope it just doesnt work if theres other cards wtf
multiple crimson seals works though
sinful cloak
nope it just doesnt work if theres other cards wtf
^
primal pulsar
this is based off of the collection order, right?
sinful cloak
i think it's the last one destroyed
bronze patio
collection order
so foil turns to no edition and holo turns to foil
well more precisely its based off of G.P_CENTER_POOLS but i think its the same thing
plush apex
alright so I tested the pack consumables and they do in fact not drain money now however as a side effect they seem to have a problem of having a few cards hang around the consumables area before warping down to where they're supposed to be
maybe it has something to do with the speed I'm running at (using Nopeus) but otherwise maybe thats another thing
gleaming coral
been trying to install this and cant get it past the loading, getting this error. i have talisman experimental and the latest cryptid version, any idea what im doign wrong?
Oops! The game crashed:
main.lua:1344: bad argument #1 to 'load' (function expected, got nil)
Additional Context:
Balatro Version: 1.0.1o-FULL
Modded Version: 1.0.0~ALPHA-1304a-STEAMODDED
LÖVE Version: 11.5.0
Lovely Version: 0.7.1
Stack Traceback
(3) global C function 'load'
(4) main chunk of file 'main.lua' at line 1344
(5) global C function 'require'
(6) LÖVE function at file 'boot.lua:323' (best guess)
Local variables:
c = table: 0x26a295a0 {identity:false, version:11.5, accelerometerjoystick:true, modules:table: 0x26a295f0 (more...)}
openedconsole = boolean: false
confok = boolean: true
conferr = nil
(7) global C function 'xpcall'
(8) LÖVE function at file 'boot.lua:362' (best guess)
Local variables:
result = boolean: true
(9) global C function 'xpcall'
(10) LÖVE function at file 'boot.lua:377' (best guess)
Local variables:
func = Lua function '(LÖVE Function)' (defined at line 355 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])
inerror = boolean: true
deferErrhand = Lua function '(LÖVE Function)' (defined at line 348 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])
earlyinit = Lua function '(LÖVE Function)' (defined at line 355 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])
primal pulsar
been trying to install this and cant get it past the loading, getting this error...
It doesn't work with the latest version. You have to downgrade to Cryptid bignum support which is listed on the github page
You should also update Talisman to the experimental branch
bronze patio
not exactly a downgrade since it should be mostly up to date especially compared to main but yeah
probably wrong cryptid version although ive never really seen it crash like this because of that
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slender anvil
oh wow i was gonna suggest sth like that for flipped Replica yesterday but thought it would be to annoying to implement
ruby has anyone told you before that youre fucking awesome
bronze patio
this is for ouija i did something else for replica
replica is like, you select 1 card can be any type and 1 random card in held becomes that card (with the same suit and rank as it had before if the selected card isnt a playing card) + glitched edition
so if you select earth 1 random card in hand becomes a glitched earth card
but i might tweak that one still
slender anvil
so a randomized Death?
bronze patio
oh wow i was gonna suggest sth like that for flipped Replica yesterday but thoug...
it was really annoying to implement but tbh it wasnt difficult either just tedious
slender anvil
or am i still too delirious to read
bronze patio
its like death but you can convert playing cards into any card type
slender anvil
oh right
bronze patio
might make it more than 1 but make it so they are only the same set instead of the exact same consumable but ill have to test that to see which is better
although that is basically the idea i had for hammerspace already
so maybe its fine as it is
random chest pain google tells me the world is gonna end i need to put entropy in my will
btw linking cards to already linked cards creates a longer chain
linking together two different links of cards also makes them all part of the same link
viewing the deck has some stuttering if you have linked cards idk if i can do anything about that
slender anvil
reminds me of when i was doing choice pedestals in isaac
and you know what that is cuz you have spindown
Book of Solomon, its such a fun item, one of the few things i can be somewhat proud of
bronze patio
i havent messed with anything isaac related in a while outside of references
slender anvil
splits item id randomly in 2 parts
(400 -> anything fron 200 200 to 1 399) and spawns a choice pedestal of the 2 items
and if it hits a choice pedestal i had to forward the choice peedestal id
it also fid a bunch of funky stuff like turning hearts into 2 half hearts, blended heart into half heart and half soul heart, rotten heart into a heart and a maggot (the tiny ones from Corpse), also worked on cards (runes are cards) and trinkets i think?
slender anvil
and as a drawback it randomly halves ur tears, dmg, range or speed. but the halving gradually fades away over the course of like 8 room clears
tho the book has 6 charges and the effect stacks
bronze patio
this might acutually be a jankier mechanic than crimson seals
slender anvil
kinda miss coding isaac
bronze patio
why do i do these things to myself
primal pulsar
they should add trinkets to balatro
i had that idea for a while but couldnt think of how it would work besides "its essentially a joker for the consumable slot"
bronze patio
well just steal the exact same functionality as isaac where you can only have 1 at a time outside of shenanigans
primal pulsar
joker that allows you to have 2 trinkets 
slender anvil
well just steal the exact same functionality as isaac where you can only have 1 ...
holdup this reminded me of the Glop tag from Potassium
it kinda works like a trinket?
it gives you +0.5 after observatory context while you hold the tag
but it's also a double tag so picking up another tag switches it up
you could make Trinkets as like Tags that replace each other whenever you pick up another trinket-type tag
bronze patio
i think the way isaac does trinkets is sort of a bad example to get it working as an ideal system but its definitely something you could get working with enough effort
a lot of isaac trinkets are consequential enough where you just find 1 and stick with it the whole time which basically just makes them items with extra steps
primal pulsar
i dont think trinkets would work here anyways
slender anvil
i'd keep them outside of Entropy's scope for now
bronze patio
its 100% outside of this mod yeah
but its definitely something a random mod could get working if they really wanted to
primal pulsar
gleaming coral
It doesn't work with the latest version. You have to downgrade to Cryptid bignum...
i downloaded everything directly from entropy, so i have bignum support and exp talisman
primal pulsar
ok thats just
strange
slender anvil
rename Tali dir to Talisman?
gleaming coral
alr
slender anvil
i remember one of the mods was really picky about the dir name
i dont remember exactly but it was like tali or smods
bronze patio
talisman is picky
gleaming coral
yeah it gave me probs before with that for talis
bronze patio
also linked sticker deck + hanged man = none synnergy
worst case scenario try to reinstall all the mods fully
slender anvil
none hand none exotic none synergy with none hand?
bronze patio
linked deck is so fucking laggy when you change enhancements but idk how to change that
bronze patio
this is not intended
sinful cloak
uhh
sinful cloak
no smods
bronze patio
i should probably fix invariant deck huh
slender anvil
oh right lmfao
sinful cloak
at all
gleaming coral
ahhh it was in my original balatro directory at first and worked fine
so i figured that wasnt an issue
bronze patio
none hand none exotic none synergy with none hand?
temporary sticker deck is also none syngery
since all playing cards get destroyed at the end of the round
jokers and consumables too
sinful cloak
none hand tomorrow
slender anvil
holy fuck was i fucking posessed by the holy spirit 3 months ago?
i invented fucking everything in the first week of january
gleaming coral
well hopefully whatever is wrong with my install gets done too mod seems cool
plush apex
Okay so I don't have a log for this but hovering over a title screen locked item with some omega sticker on it seemed to crash my game
oh actually I think jen mentioned this on the discord maybe its connected to that
bronze patio
idk what causes this but ive never seen it occur before like not even a single time so i assume its a mod compact
plush apex
Probably
bronze patio
i love linked sticker deck!!!
primal pulsar
linking it
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bronze patio
is anyone here good at doing cardart and/or enhancements cause i have a few things that ill probably need help with (im really bad at doing spectral card art)
bronze patio
slender anvil
red
bronze patio
the cards demand a sacrifice what should i do about this
slender anvil
sacrifices
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slender anvil
flesh five
torn wave
flesh house
slender anvil
royal flesh
restive dove
straight flesh
strange dome
jupiter (upgrades flesh)
slender anvil
i like the name antithesis, and wanted to use it for something, but i feel like Flipsiding a Flipside should destroy both cards and do the effect instantly
like normally when you use Flipside you take your card against a mirror and flip it
but if you flipside a flipside, it's like you're flipping the mirror itself
could be accompanied by some fancy effects idk
but i dont think you should just get a flipped mirror, it should just flip everything and use both Flipsides
it is your mod and you have the final word but i think this is a better idea despite me liking the name you picked
primal pulsar
flipside paradox
bronze patio
i might make it a special effect i just wanted to make the consumable amounts be exactly equal
bronze patio
i love royal flushes!!!!!
i have seance btw
2e11 flush five
lol
this is why xchips is superior
rapid narwhal
May I ask if you have a modpack/ a list of mods that you recommend or personally play with Entropy?
bronze patio
i just play with cryptid, talisman, entropy, nopeus and incantation
but im sure theres others that go well
full kraken
my game crashes on launch
rapid narwhal
i just play with cryptid, talisman, entropy, nopeus and incantation
Thank you so much!
full kraken
pls somoene help how to fix this
full kraken
what?
sinful cloak
read the pins
full kraken
the latest release isnt that where i find the early acces version
sinful cloak
the release has the correct talisman version, but not the correct cryptid version
full kraken
what cryptid version i need then?
sinful cloak
pin
full kraken
sorry i thought that that was just normal cryptid im fucking stupid so sorry
bronze patio
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disavow is proving to be annoying
full tiger
So how do you get back in after using break
bronze patio
you should be able to just reselect the same blind
full tiger
it's not working
full tiger
got it
bronze patio
i remember break being really buggy before and i thought i fixed it but i dont know if i merged it to main or not
either way it should be fixed when reverse spectrals drop
full tiger
okay
tepid lodge
I think it would be better to add red tones to the edges of the sprite, as if it was corrupted/rusty.
bronze patio
i could attempt to make it a rusted metal at some point but im trying to come up with ideas for the card art for reverse spectrals
its really annoying and difficult
wip
primal pulsar
What's this for?
bronze patio
disavow
gives cards boosts based on their current enhancement then makes them disavowed
primal pulsar
interesting
bronze patio
you basically get more of a boost if you already have a set strategy for the run ie if youre already relying on a lot of steel cards then youll benefit from using disavow on them since it will be stronger than regular steels
gold cards also for example are a tradeoff where they give more money in the short term but will fall off over time since they only payout once
editions that dont have a specific boost become glitched too
wild cards do that also
the original idea was seals but it was kinda hard to utilize
using disavow on disavowed cards will make them glitched also
bronze patio
you can test it rn on the reverse spectrals branch but the cardart is still sigil but pink cause i got lazy
primal pulsar
i'll play with it soon and i'll give my thoughts about it when i'm free
bronze patio
im really bad at spectral card art if it isnt obvious from flipside so im just gonna put it off as long as i can
if i find someone to help that will be ideal but ill eventually complete it myself if not
bronze patio
slender anvil
wow thats a cool blind
plush apex
Interesting blind effect
wicked arch
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sinful cloak
because you haven't updated
wicked arch
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sinful cloak
new run?
wicked arch
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rapid narwhal
game crashed when buying kciroy
tawny lotus
if i find someone to help that will be ideal but ill eventually complete it myse...
The place is pretty dead so I don't think you'll find any person to help yuo
slender anvil
it's so cool to see all the ideas ive made actually in the game
bronze patio
its really satisfying to see something you imagine come to life the reverse spectrals imo are pretty cool so far especially the ones with artwork
slender anvil
crashed when i hovered over this guy
im not on bignum branch if thats an issue? just 0.5.5b release
bronze patio
seems like it might not be my fault but idk so ill look into it if i remember
bronze patio
its really satisfying to see something you imagine come to life the reverse spec...
also
the bignum branch thing was mostly to fix a lot of crashes i was having that i knew probably werent my fault without doing a lot of shenanigans to fix it tbh so that might be one of them
north blaze
omg eclipse is that a cryptid reference
sinful cloak
eclipse might need a rename bc eclipse tarot
slender anvil
this is infinite right?
sinful cloak
on madness
bronze patio
eclipse might need a rename bc eclipse tarot
oops
ill just name it veil since i dont wanna resprite it
slender anvil
bro
bronze patio
i love oinac!!!
slender anvil
We have Erratic Deck at home
slender anvil
i love oinac!!!
definitely one of the better ones, love it
bronze patio
i really enjoy oekrep but i also just love doing stupid shit that shouldnt be allowed so yknow
speaking of
i love mimic!!!
i should test this with fusiona aka reverse hammerspace actually
awesome
this is the type of stuff i imagined when i first heard about balatro mostly because the first thing i saw was from the unstable mod so im really happy to finally be able to do stuff like this ingame
tepid lodge
it's so cool to see all the ideas ive made actually in the game
Looks like virus card
bronze patio
that was the main inspiration tbh
making them more evil even if they arent all actually virus related
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22 reverse spectral sprites left
primal pulsar
bro
how did u get a reverse legendary already wtf
I've gotten the fucking Exodia^∞ run but I've yet to seen a reverse legendary
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outside of doe you need fervour which you get from inverting the soul
m entropic is accidentally anti-scalae synnergy but thats fine because now theres multiple pathways to the most op run in entropy instead of just epitachyno scalae and exponentia
it has the potential to be the most op out of all the entropics so im trying to make sure the balancing is just right
i dont mind how op it is but i want all the entropics to be roughly equally desirable for different reasons
torn wave
wat
sour void
guh????
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reverse spectrals moment
primal pulsar
nice
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i think ill try come up with entropic scalae soon i dont want it to just be scalae but with a stronger operation though
so ill have to think a lot about it
therell probably be 2 new entropics in the reverse spectrals update if i can come up with a good idea
like with ieros being crustulum++ i want to just take the general idea of scaling jokers = good and roll with it rather than making another scaling jokers scale even faster than before joker
also if i get inspiration i might make some void themed friends of jimbo esque sprites for the nil suit
if i just do one itll be based on ror2 if i do more than one idk
sinful cloak
test with glitched as well
might want to trigger add-to-deck effects when it activates
scenic sluice
yep, that's (probably) it
fresh magnet
Will certain features of Entropy have Toggles?
What if I wanted Just the Jokers?
lethal kestrel
Does it works with multiplayer mod ?
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is this even possible
alsoo seems like sticker deck isnt applying stickers properly because shop jokers dont get debuffed
they get debuffed when going to a blind tho
primal pulsar
is this even possible
doubt
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honestly reminds me of very fair deck ascendant stake
primal pulsar
but its funny so keep it
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i think if you get some super op jokers ante 1 its maybe possible but you have to actually survive ante 1
lethal kestrel
Is there a way do download this mod or is it in développement?
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check pins
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fresh magnet
I feel this needs a ELI5
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?
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like on this axes
regular numbers would just be on the x axis
but with complex numbers you can rotate them
fresh magnet
OH
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i is exactly 90 degrees away from 1
also since the rotations are exactly opposite it cancels out aka a do nothing joker
fresh magnet
Hah!
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i was gonna make it just mult but i was too lazy to mess with scoring to make it so you always lose with the joker so it just does nothing now
slender anvil
i love it doe
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the rotation is actually purely visual cause i got lazy
slender anvil
fair nuff
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i could probably word it in a way where this is more clear but like
thats a lot of effort
i have 1/3 of the reverse spectrals dont art wise also
digital prism
refactor applying negitave doesn't add another (joker) slot?
mkv files wont embed in discord, you need to convert to mp4 for that, but here you go
tawny lotus
Who cares it looks cool
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I mean that's the entire purpose of the joker it looks funny but does nothing
tawny lotus
real i will be in corruption mod though
Where
slender anvil
i think it should just count as long as Re(score) > requirement
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corrupt green deck will have complex money
tawny lotus
I want complex chips
slender anvil
it would usually be detrimental but lmao
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I've thought about actually implementing complex mult before but like that's way too much effort
and would break like every mod ever
slender anvil
tru
tawny lotus
The i
Score must be imaginary
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I wanna add some more serious common jokers but tesseract was just a really funny idea I had
slender anvil
i call her Tess
torn wave
digital prism
are we just going to ignore the fact canvas is on the left most slot?
slender anvil
and what are you gonna do about it
remote socket
I'm gonna try to get this mod again later when I'm home to get this working because when I tried downloading it on the modloader it always crashed my game on startup. It looks really cool but I'm wondering what the conflicts are if there are any at all, or I'm just a stoopid dumb Lil dude who knows nothing about computers.
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crashes how? is there an error message
remote socket
Yeah there is, I can show you the message once I'm home if there still is one
Although I am happy that it is on the mod manager, makes noobies like me happy
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i think the main issue with it being on the mod manager is that i dont think you can get different cryptid and talisman branches from there so thats prob the issue
but thatll be resolved soon enough anyway when cryptid merges big num support to main
remote socket
I don't think I'm using anything else that relies on cryptid and talisman but I'll check and see once I can
Or do I need to manually install cryptid
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no i mean entropy requires a different cryptid branch to fix a bunch of issues and idk if its on the mod manager
but that other branch is being merged into the main one eventually
remote socket
Ooohhh I see
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i think it still says you need experimental talisman but idk if you do so let me check that
remote socket
The cryptid on the mod manager has been getting updates periodically updated but idk what they are for
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the mod manager one should be up to date for the main branch of cryptid which is usually what youll want so it makes sense
remote socket
So is talisman the issue then? If not then I'll try again when I can, because I tried this mod about a week ago
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cryptid specifically prob but ill wait to see the error message to confirm that
if its something to do with big_num_blacklist its that though
remote socket
the mod manager one should be up to date for the main branch of cryptid which is...
So for this mod I don't want the up to date cryptid or?
(Again sorry if I'm being dumb)
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youll want the version linked on this mods github page which is pinned here
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its unfortunate but i cant really do anything about that other than wait
i probably should have waited to put it on the manager but i didnt really think about this problem
remote socket
So we just wait until the big fixer update or whatever for cryptid for it to work on mod manager?
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yes or you can install cryptid manually for now using the instructions on the pinned link if you dont wanna wait
remote socket
Doing manual install for cyptid along with the mods I have for mod manager seems like a lot so I might just wait
I gotta go now so cya later
torn wave
multipliciative ascension power
this is something we were gonna do for TEFD's chip-joker equivalent
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it starts you off at 1 asc power if you have none btw so getting solar isnt useless if you dont have more csl or four fingers
well sort of
the first solar card proc grants +1 asc power if you have 0
and then its 1.4x every one after that
solar starts off slightly worse than astral but not by much since it applies to both chips and mult but then outpaces it quickly around 10 triggers
tawny lotus
that is so cool
x1.3 ascension power
bro at this point ascension power is just alternative glop
cannot wait to see this
very unfortunate this doesnt wok with ultraunbalanced extension
i hav sound suggestion for solar
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average entropy run
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where is this from? did you make it
tawny lotus
where is this from? did you make it
much like mosaic it's from bajeweled
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oh okay
slender anvil
average entropy run
thats so pogchamp
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i need to stream entropy at some point
slender anvil
true
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as much as i think it can be boring doe would probably be the most chaotic for that
slender anvil
i want tesseract to do shit sm
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i really wanna do something with complex numbers actually being meaningful but itll probably be reserved for an entropic joker cause that seems hellish
slender anvil
i want +chips to misalign the values and have it score fucked up
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entropic scalae maybe it would be so fucking funny
slender anvil
waow
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i dont want whatever entropic scaling joker i come up with to just be scalae but stronger or a stronger operation though so ill have to think of something
slender anvil
iirc ^i projects the real number onto the unit circle so idk what ^^i does
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it mines bitcoin on your computer
slender anvil
waow
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(its not really well defined)
slender anvil
thats so cool
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i wanna make sure all the entropics that are based on existing jokers arent just a better/stronger version they will be stronger but itll be a different but related concept
like ieros vaguely making shops more powerful in the same way that crustulum vaguely makes shops more powerful
scalae++ will reward you for having scaling jokers and scaling them but not just by making scaling jokers scale even even faster
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this might be unintentional
slender anvil
nah its perfect
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idk how id even fix this cause idk how i scale down the text size using update_hand_text
slender anvil
rotation
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im so confused
multiplying these two numbers together gives me -naneinf but as a bignum?????
what the fuck is going on it didnt do this before
tawny lotus
Naneinf hi
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if it prints with hi after thta means its a bignum
torn wave
what the hell
tawny lotus
if it prints with hi after thta means its a bignum
Hello
torn wave
???
tawny lotus
i
torn wave
i
tawny lotus
Should I make i blind tomorrow
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most useful engulf ever:
slender anvil
*apply solar Edition
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i worded it the same as the vanilla edition spectral tbh
slender anvil
ectoplasm?
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slender anvil
btw i see you keep reducing Solar's bonus, keep in mind youre balancing around playing the Solar deck right now, if it's balanced on Solar deck it will be underpowered outside of it
fresh magnet
As much as I love the epicness, try to add a few goofy things here and there if you can
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ill probably raise it back to 1.4 but i realised it wasnt increasing chips when it should have been
so i did that
and then i decreased it after that
slender anvil
i c
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1.4 is probably fine it just gets out of hand really quickly if you get like a few retrigger jokers or you get a few deaths or something which is probably fine but im unsure
tepid lodge
most useful engulf ever:
the shader looks cool
slender anvil
i doned it
mint dome
Is there a download anywhere?
sinful cloak
pin
mint dome
Sorry about that
fresh magnet
Im not sure if this idea would fit in here:
Misc Joker: Particle Accelerator
Applies a different Hyperoperation depending on how how many times Jokers have been (re)triggered.
20 = ^2 Mult
50 = ^^1.1 Mult
100+ = ^^^1.01 Mult
slender anvil
meh
fresh magnet
Am I allowed to pet Cass or would that make me just a creep
fresh magnet
Can I please pet you, glop doggo?
slender anvil
naw
fresh magnet
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slender anvil
m_stonem_stonem_stonem_stonem_stonem_stonem_stonem_stonem_stonem_stonem_stonem_stone
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m_stonem_stonem_stonem_stonem_stonem_stonem_stonem_stonem_stonem_stonem_stonem_s...
it just sorts the editions and concatenates them into a string
slender anvil
crazy
sinful cloak
how does it decide
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enhancements have an amount of points each it sums up the points and if its above a threshold it picks a rarity and then picks a random joker of that rarity based on the seed and that list of enhancements will always pick that joker
and order doesnt matter
and theres some fixed recipes
like 5 normal cards is regular joker
sinful cloak
what defines points
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like a number
when abstract gets merged itll probably be the only way to get higher than legendary rarities cause i dont really think any amount of glass or light cards is equal to getting an exotic or entropic joker
sinful cloak
what about other modded ones
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other mods can add support or i can manually add support otherwise they count as 0 points and modded rarities are impossible to obtain
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makes sense
slender anvil
what if increased card selection limit
tawny lotus
Is the solar edition out yet
slender anvil
fractal fingers -> now you can make 7-item recipes
tawny lotus
Also I want the fs file so I would replace it with some other edition in the mod
Because it cool
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Is the solar edition out yet
no it will be when reverse spectrals drop
this is for that update too
tawny lotus
no it will be when reverse spectrals drop
Aw man
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the main issue rn is that since its multiuse atleast where youre meant to find it selecting even 5 cards at a time thins to deck really quickly
i could make it discard blank cards and destroy enhanced cards but idk
tawny lotus
Could I suggest a (possibly bad) suggestion
tawny lotus
I can see why you use astral
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Could I suggest a (possibly bad) suggestion
sure
tawny lotus
Ok actually nvm
slender anvil
I can see why you use astral
cuz i hate astral and play with it completely toggled off by default, so if i fuck sth up its not big deal
tawny lotus
Ok actually nvm
I wanted to suggest replacing the Asc power thing from (+#) with a significantly small and similarly colored chip mult window
But I don't feel like it's good so no
tawny lotus
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what if there was a first window called chips and your score was chips
tawny lotus
What there was a zeroth window called X and your score was X
sinful cloak
what if
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what if entropy tomorrow
tawny lotus
What if there was a -1st window called base blind size
slender anvil
what if there was a first window called chips and your score was chips
-# what
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for a little bit of fun
slender anvil
are you okay in the the head?
tawny lotus
We need a zeroth window
slender anvil
thats so fucked up
tawny lotus
Called X
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what if there was a game that was sort of like a poker roguelike and the main mechanic was different jokers with different effects
tardy river
waht if there were video games
slender anvil
what
tawny lotus
What if there were computers
That compute
And makes us have fun
Or something
What if there were games
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what if entropy was tomorrow
slender anvil
what if tomorrow was tomorrow
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i actually have like 17 reverse spectral sprites left to do
and now i need to sprite the new deck but thats basically it
gleaming thistle
I suppose bignum isnt merged into main yet
tawny lotus
I love this mod So much especially the Asc power edition
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cant wait to make some more card modifiers when i make reverse tarots
im pretty sure its possible when reverse spectrals drop to beat very fair deck entropic stake
until i cap the joker rarity from fusion
but you could mega arcana -> judgement, blessing -> fusion and fusion the judgement joker or, get blessing and fool and then get fusion and a reverse spectral then fusion on the reverse spectral to get a beyond
slender anvil
balato
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balala
plush apex
have you already made a soul inverse or is that off the table
primal pulsar
i threw in some ideas too!
slender anvil
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MMMM - epic
if played hand contains a pair turn 1 scored card solar
turn 1 more solar for each jolly joker owned
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slender anvil
m🔥
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i wanna add more actual jokers to this mod so this is a good start
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i have the beginning of an idea for entropic scalae
slender anvil
destroy all cards in full deck that share the rank or suit of selected card
fresh magnet
Is Burnt M going to be considered a Meme Joker?
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its an M joker
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i dont think ive seen that but idk
fresh magnet
No worries.
This and Ascensio are two mods I'm really hyped for. Can't wait to see the development!
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im just waiting to get inspiration for the rest of the reverse spectral art now tbh
slender anvil
This and Ascensio are two mods I'm really hyped for. Can't wait to see the devel...
hyperblinds tomorrow
slender anvil
most useful engulf ever:
it looks really good on the reverse spectrals huh
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its cause unlike regular spectrals reverse spectrals for some reason stack the spectral shader with other shaders
which actually isnt intentional but looks really nice so im not fixing it
look at the difference betwen disavow and sigil with the jolly edition
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it probably should work like how reverse spectrals do but its technically unintentional
fresh magnet
SIGIL II ( 2023 )
Romero Games/id Software
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any shader that disables the base shader will look like this for regular spectrals btw
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SIGIL II ( 2023 )
Romero Games/id Software
it will have a new sprite at some point but im lazy and have no inspiration rn
fresh magnet
That's ok. I just wanted an opportunity to Reference Doom.
Just like allot of my references, It's probably way too specific/deep a cut
tawny lotus
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tiny sand
with the solar edition here we only need a solar enhancement and we'll have the full solar trilogy
torn wave
with the solar edition here we only need a solar enhancement and we'll have the ...
so fun fact
there was an idea for that in cryptid itself
buoyant solar
This needs more attention
buoyant solar
This looks so cool from what I'm seeing here
buoyant solar
I may have suggested someone to try out the mod down the line
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murphy said hed play it at some point
i wanna see if i can get reverse spectrals done before that maybe idk
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murphys schedule is a little inconsistent so im not really waiting for that itll just be a nice surprise when it happens
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i actually only have like 15 reverse spectral arts left to do
then the update is done
i think some of these are inaccurate to the ingame versions cause i never updated it other than the Y/N parts
torn wave
Oh that's who I sent it to
can you vouch for corruption 🔥
dont mention it just yet wait for it to get its demo
buoyant solar
Was gonna say, you got a playable version?
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after reverse spectrals will be reverse tarots then im finally fuckin done with inversed consumables
then i have to add actual content which is scary
torn wave
Was gonna say, you got a playable version?
it will have a demo when i'm ready for it to
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Rusted Bucket - Common
this joker gains +1 water for every water this bucket has at the end of the round
currently 1
🔥
infinite do nothing jokers
tropic gulch
I've updated both cryptid and talisman yet I'm still getting this crash'
slender anvil
Oinac Hologram
karmic vale
erm what
tawny lotus
Got another sound suggestion, it comes from the same game that mosaic uses (bej twist)
I dont think it's good but whatever I'm not the dev of the mod
gleaming thistle
is that spindown dice
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yes
tawny lotus
Can u add factorial /j
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??? - Rare
when a card is created from a specific pool create a card from any pool weighted by how many cards are in it
for example when you open a planet pack each card could randomly be any card type but will probably be a joker
0.5 deck of equilibirums basically
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yes
sorta
to not fuck you over with 0 jokers appearing ever bigger pools would appear more often
but it still respects rarity
sinful cloak
all pools are merged
slender anvil
all pools are equal weight still works tho
if theres 5 pools then it has a 20% chance to be from the Joker pool and from there weights go as usual
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rn if you exclude the reverse pools which dont get used anywhere theres
joker, tarot, planet, spectral, code, booster, voucher, twisted, meme, food, and m right
by reverse pools i mean like rcode or rspectral which you could create a card of that type but nothing ever does directly
everything that does it randomly uses a unified twisted pool
so you have about a 9% chance for any card to be a specific pool
9% chance for any card to be meme or m is probably too strong but i also dont wanna exclude them
which is why im hesitant to equally weight all the pools instead of just merging them
if they were merged you would have a lower chance to pull m jokers since the pool is lower so its rarer to pick one out of all possible cards
slender anvil
ok but then make sure to normalize weights within pools
(other mod compat)
cuz what if someone makes a new pool with weights being 100 200 500 instead of 1 2 5
just merging the pools would leave a mess
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well its not actually merged internally thats just a better way of wording it prob
it just picks a pool randomly based on how big the pool is
slender anvil
i suppose?
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which would be equivalent if all weights were normalised
sinful cloak
-# literally equilibrium
primal pulsar
??? - Rare
when a card is created from a specific pool create a card from any po...
chaos tboi
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the difference with equilibrium is that if the joker pool is picked you still are more likely to get commons and you still wouldnt ever get legendaries
and it also applies to cards created by any means ideally
so sixth sense could now create anything but so could vagabond
might actually be epic because of that tbh
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chaos tboi
inspiration
i very much enjoy mechanics outside of just econ and scoring so i like adding stuff related to that
primal pulsar
you could engrave that onto the card
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i mean tbois chaos symbol is literally a preestablisdhed symbol for chaos that they didnt invent so id probably just work from that
fresh magnet
i mean tbois chaos symbol is literally a preestablisdhed symbol for chaos that t...
Did someone say Chaos?
tiny sand
chikn nuggit jumpscare
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google synonyms of chaos and youll shit bricks
tiny sand
discord
tiny sand
fresh magnet
Without going on a tangent, I really hate how they changed the show to be story heavy. lol so random humor is funny because it shouldn’t be explained
Alright.
Thats all.
So the code card update broke quite a few things. Will you have any problems fixing up that stuff?
fresh magnet
Well. When I tried it, Some code cards straight up crash the game.
fresh magnet
google synonyms of chaos and youll shit bricks
Hah! Title drop!
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like which
it better not be memory leak
memory leak will get changed eventually to be more interesting but rn its just crash 2 where it crashes on purpose
fresh magnet
like which
Delete, sometimes Divide, Offbyone and Payload
fresh magnet
Yeah. I Probably should have specified
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might be a cryptid issue probably best to test that without entropy
fresh magnet
I swear coding is like a hydra:
you fix one thing, and two other things break
tiny sand
can confirm, this is true
tiny sand
Hah! Title drop!
roll credits
slender anvil
I swear coding is like a hydra:
you fix one thing, and two other things break
bring a flaming sword to kill the heads for good (overheat your pc)
fresh magnet
bring a flaming sword to kill the heads for good (overheat your pc)
I have RTX, yes
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slender anvil
Entropy already did it
tawny lotus
Wtf
slender anvil
NONE SLEEVE?
karmic vale
what the freak word did you do to accomplish this
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primal pulsar
slender anvil
chaos magic
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im pretty sure i got a base enhanced card to show up like the same one from the collection but i cant recreate
wtf why is it stretched
slender anvil
long clock
karmic vale
wtf why is it stretched
w h a t
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this is why entropy is the number 1 mod of all time
i really really wanna make buying sleeves and decks and content sets work but not for this joker
maybe something else
slender anvil
it has shenanigans™️
karmic vale
this is why entropy is the number 1 mod of all time
This is how a cryptid expansion should be done (better than almanac)
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i wanna add something eventually that truly randomises stuff with no restrictions but thatll be for something entropic probably
so sadly i have to fix shop content sets
tawny lotus
😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭
Nah what do we got next stakes?
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anything in G.P_CENTERS can show up rn until i fix it
well
any type from G.P_CENTERS
weights within the types are maintained
tawny lotus
this is why entropy is the number 1 mod of all time
Add factorial and it's peak /hj
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im actually gonna disable the blacklist rn and see what happens
this will let editions by themselves show up in the shop btw
not editioned cards just editions
tawny lotus
Enhancements ?
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that too
tawny lotus
Blinds?2?2?2?2
kindred sphinx
me wasting 5 dollars for an eternal sticker:
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blinds arent centers
primal pulsar
sleeve stacking?/j
karmic vale
can't wait to find a gold seal in the shop 🔥
tawny lotus
Show
karmic vale
peak 🔥
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also i guess i have to make more reverse codes soon
after reverse spectrals drop i will
karmic vale
amazing
primal pulsar
what happens when you pop a booster pack inside of a booster pack
primal pulsar
ah
karmic vale
+nil hand every round
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it works like this cause of #define
entropic joker called true entropy that entropizes the shop 🔥
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torn wave
ominous
gleaming thistle
Honestly id love to make some inverse card art
or at least my take on some
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if you wanna help reverse spectrals badly need a lot of art
gleaming thistle
if you wanna help reverse spectrals badly need a lot of art
got a color palette?
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