#Entropy - A Very Chaotic Balatro Mod

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slender anvil
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yea that makes more sense

bronze patio
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i dont mind doing higher operations but i want it to not get out of hand that quickly unles you have multiple >=exotic jokers

twin breach
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i have no idea were i can dawload this addon

bronze patio
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its not out yet

slender anvil
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not yet

twin breach
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oh

slender anvil
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if you subtract these messages from each other you get the secret code: "its out"

twin breach
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the mod looks really cool btw

bronze patio
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it should actually be done relatively soon theres only a few things left

slender anvil
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entropy tomorrow

bronze patio
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true

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8 reverse code cards and 2 reverse legendaries is all thats 100% needed

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i wanna do an entropic rarity based deck but i dont have ideas so thats optional for now and i wanna get music for entropic jokers from someone but thats basically it

slender anvil
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which legendary did you do besides Kciroy and Oekrep

bronze patio
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chicot

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although idk how much i like it rn

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it creats blinds skip tags when they are played and bonus tags for boss blinds and heavily reduces the requirement of non boss blinds

slender anvil
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^?

bronze patio
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i like the idea ill probably add it soon its 1am though

slender anvil
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its 2:40am here

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so yeah i get it

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at 19oak its x1.3ee6

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number goes brrrr

bronze patio
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omw to farm entropic and exotic jokers with biblically accurate angels, casino owners hate this one simple trick

slender anvil
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( πŸ‘οΈ )

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-# (respectully)

bronze patio
inland pasture
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how does one get this mod for themselves?

sinful cloak
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not available yet

inland pasture
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ok thank you

bronze patio
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i got it working other than the number of retriggers is wrong but thats easy to change

bronze patio
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alt tab -> idk
create a copy of and redeem the previous antes voucher (idk if this is feasible to check)

bronze patio
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i wanna finish the last of the code cards in the next few days

slender anvil
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so we still need Oinac?

bronze patio
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ive been working on some ideas

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scored face cards are destroyed and replaced with a standard version
gain 0.05 ^mult when this occurs

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standard here meaning no edition and enhancement but the same rank and suit

slender anvil
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i thought today maybe it should be nonfaces

bronze patio
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perhaps

tawny lotus
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Why are they called "legendary?"

bronze patio
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you get them from using the inversed version of the soul only

tawny lotus
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M

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Mythical

slender anvil
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Oinac (Legendary?)
When a card is played destroy it and add a +1_Rank copy to your hand
Face cards additionally gain ^0.05 Chips when destroyed

bronze patio
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i like it

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only reason i put it as mult before is because its gonna be lower if you get it early compared to later on

slender anvil
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imo flipped legendaries should do chips instead of mult

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for an extra flip aspect

bronze patio
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should i change trib then

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since that idea was xmult based

slender anvil
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i think so

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internalized MultNormativity πŸ’€

bronze patio
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more stuff with chips will be nice for when caeruleum exists too

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incredible

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πŸ’€ what is my luck

slender anvil
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fun fact: Oinac synergizes with Canio πŸ‘ πŸ”₯ 🀯 glop_indicator_g πŸͺž

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why did it post the other fucking glop emoji wtf

bronze patio
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one day in a future update i will add evil red glop to this mod i think ill call it mult and it will multiply your chips by mult

slender anvil
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what the fuck

bronze patio
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all the reverse legendaries are working now

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time to come up with code card ideas

slender anvil
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wahoo

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reminder which ones we still need?

slender anvil
bronze patio
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lemme check

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caerulized ieros would be pentation

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reboot, revert, seed, class, delete, patch, instantiate, alt tab

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all others arent in the game yet

slender anvil
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^

bronze patio
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should be easy

slender anvil
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^

bronze patio
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i need to fix a bug where using new() in a booster pack softlocks you too but that should be easy

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inherit will be easy too

slender anvil
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hotfix

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^

bronze patio
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does hotfix undebuff straight away or just no future debuffing

slender anvil
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straight away

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it's a "undebuffable" sticker that fades away

bronze patio
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alright those all seem relatively easy although ill need to do inversed code sticker art

slender anvil
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^

bronze patio
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for my global and hook ideas too id need stickers

slender anvil
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like sprites

bronze patio
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global -> local, add a local sticker that takes up the same slot as the global sticker

local sticker
destroyed at the end of the round

slender anvil
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i meant

bronze patio
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i forgot what hook was though

slender anvil
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does instantiate look good?

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-> multithread

bronze patio
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yes

slender anvil
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that leaves Revert, Seed, Delete and Alt Tab

bronze patio
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actually i forgot reverse hook wasnt my idea it was novas

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i dont want seed to just be making a probability never happen even though thats an idea i had

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seems a little boring and also way more niche

slender anvil
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Seed -> Pseudorandom
Cards and Jokers with probability effects that trigger during the next hand will always trigger until the end of the Ante

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so you have a chance to SEED a lot of things at once, but only temporarily

bronze patio
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interesting I wonder how id check for that though

slender anvil
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hm

bronze patio
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outside of hardcoding it

slender anvil
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maybe just SEED all cards and jokers on screen til end of ante

bronze patio
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probably

slender anvil
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oh yeah i did that also

bronze patio
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does the pin sticker work already for the shop or will I have to do it custom

slender anvil
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so you can maybe keep rerolling for other things if order matters, or if youre poor keep it there til next shop

bronze patio
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alr

slender anvil
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and i dont think i meant the pin sticker actually

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just like the concept

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but like dementia so idk

bronze patio
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ik i was just wondering i pin alreayd did something like that or not

slender anvil
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Revert and AltTab left

bronze patio
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ill start with multithread cause its the easiest

slender anvil
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AltTab -> Autostart
Gain 3 random skip tags you had this run

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Revert -> Quickload
(in shop) Retrigger the most recent Cashout screen

bronze patio
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interesting but im gonna have to mess with ui (nightmare)

slender anvil
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if you want me to come up with sth else lmk

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but for now i think thats is all of them

bronze patio
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nah the idea is good i just hate ui

slender anvil
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are the item ids like c_cry_ent_qload at this point?

bronze patio
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c_entr_quickload would be it

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smods hates me and my family

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i forgot edition_type

bronze patio
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multithread code is done

slender anvil
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wahoo

bronze patio
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was really easy other than getting temporary cards to work properly

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there was a weird issue where they wouldnt visually get added to the deck but they were in the deck

bronze patio
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and if it's obtained would it include empowered

slender anvil
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obtained

slender anvil
bronze patio
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I think it doesn't really matter since it's really only op if you get empowered as the only tag

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since you already get an exotic/legendary from one empowered tag

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getting a second Gamba tag could be powerful but it's not too bad either

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also what if I added evil fucked up inversed tags just to add extra work for myself

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all pack tags would be twisted packs except Gamba idk about the others

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I wanna add a few twisted related jokers to make twisted packs even more common comparitively but I won't add inversed jokers probably outside of legendaries and entropics (kinda)

slender anvil
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ehhh i dont think evil tags are worth the effort

bronze patio
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prob not

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wanna avoid making beyond easy to get too

bronze patio
slender anvil
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Invariant

bronze patio
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trying to get this to work between shops its really annoying

torn wave
bronze patio
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yea

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doesnt get rerolled and comes back in the next round

torn wave
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neato

tardy river
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like the jokers

bronze patio
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except coming back in the next round isnt working properly for boosters and vouchers

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okay it works

tardy river
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first word isnt capitalized >:(

bronze patio
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words arent real

slender anvil
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wahoo

bronze patio
slender anvil
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sob

bronze patio
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inherit will prob be done soon

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a lot of the "enter text to do x" code cards are actually pretty simple other than define since the existing functionality is already there

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btw you can use inherit to destroy all the cards in the deck if you dont have modified cards also

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none synergy

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awesome using inherit on a default deck and typing in nil or null instakills you until none is a thing

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incredible

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5 left

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made it not work on cards with no enhancement because i realised that 1. this is op and 2. thats probably not whats meant by "no enhancement is an option"

slender anvil
bronze patio
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none synergy still exists but you have to play enhancement deck or enhance all your cards now

slender anvil
bronze patio
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i thought you meant you can make enhanced cards plain

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which i added which actually doesnt exist on class

slender anvil
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epic

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i love instant death

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most played hand: None

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none hand none exotic none synergy

bronze patio
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none hand entropic joker when

slender anvil
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oh my

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yeah should prolly make one once None gets implemented

bronze patio
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since entropics are mostly gonna be based on existing exotics theres a chance that will eventually be a thing

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idk what id do for it though

slender anvil
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peep Vanitas in that case (in the doc)

bronze patio
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fun fact also biblically accurate angel joker's idea was at first based on crustulum

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i will peep in a bit

bronze patio
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okay autostart is coded really easy

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Deck of Containment
Beyond can show up in spectral packs like gateway
increase the chances the more things you do which you wouldnt be able to in real poker
chances resets when a beyond spawns
^chips less than 1 depending on how high the chances are

primal pulsar
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what counts as something you wouldnt do in poker

bronze patio
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playing enhanced cards, secret hands are the main things

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therell probably be other things that increase the chances less

primal pulsar
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i see
also while you're at it, can you rework the downside of Beyond?
I feel like it can be evaded piss eaisly by just selling all your jokers and then using it

bronze patio
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you cant sell them unless you obtain it as a consumable which is hard anyway

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but i might change it still

bronze patio
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its a pretty meh solution since it can cause conflicts with obtaining jokers in a pack that has a beyond that you dont care about but thats like the only case where it matters

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since it bypasses eternal anyway

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so you cant just lock to save stuff before you use the beyond

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it wont bypass absolute but it will banish absolute cards from showing up again though

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i might change that though so you cant turn sob into a default joker farm with shenanigans

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idk

pure shuttle
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mentropy joker

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this joker gains ^^13 mult whenever jolly joker is sold

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idfk

primal pulsar
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mentropy

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♂️

pure shuttle
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misogyny in my balatro?!?!

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insane

bronze patio
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entropic trecedim was something i wanted to add but i didnt have ideas

pure shuttle
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question

bronze patio
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TreiskaΓ­deka would be the name though

pure shuttle
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i probably wont use this since as mentioned i barely have any idea how to code

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but which like thing allows tetration to exist

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in balatro

bronze patio
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talisman handles it all, then you just return EEmult_mod or EEchip_mod in the calculate function of the joker

pure shuttle
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oh

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cooliosis

bronze patio
pure shuttle
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would you have to enter like 25000 e's for jokers that do {25000} shit

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or is there a simpler way to

bronze patio
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i think theres a simpler way but idk

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i dont plan to go above tetration but i might change my mind

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well ^^chips with caeruleum whenever that becomes a thing would be pentation but thats different

pure shuttle
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we need {4.23e281} chips

bronze patio
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main issue is lag

pure shuttle
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yeah im aware

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thats why kosmos caps out at 25k in jens almanac right

bronze patio
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yes

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you can surpass other mods without going causing lag anyway with shenanigans

pure shuttle
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peak

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anyways yet another question

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how do people like calculate tetration n shit in balatro iwth some sort of console log thing

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ive seen it be done before sometime

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i dont remember when

bronze patio
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if you have debugplus go to the console type eval to_big(n):tetrate(m) which == n^^m

pure shuttle
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is ^^1.01 mult effective

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okay yes it is

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can confirm

bronze patio
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1.01 not really actually tetration as a whole is not effective then the power is low but fractional tetration can be good since its just interpolation

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100^^1.01 atleast under talisman's implementation is only 124

slender anvil
pure shuttle
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for ^^2.5 its x^x^x^0.5 right

bronze patio
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yes

bronze patio
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its only an approximation anyway since there isnt a real answer to expanding tetration but the approximation talisman uses is pretty good

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will probably do revert soon

pure shuttle
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The Wiggles
This Joker gains +1 Chips whenever a Joker wiggles
(wiggle is the thing that tailsman cant prevent that thing yes)

slender anvil
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yea ^^1.01 is still very slow

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7e65^^1.01 = e300

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thats only like ^5

pure shuttle
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would it be epic or rare

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im not sure

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or legendary

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or somethingary

slender anvil
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wrong channel

pure shuttle
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no

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^^1.01 mult

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thats what im talking about

slender anvil
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@bronze patio you should add Shoot The Moon 2, it is the same as Shoot The Moon but its mutable

bronze patio
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i mean i can just take ownership of shoot the moon and make it mutable instead

bronze patio
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i already took ownership of oil lamp just to make it epic which is one of the few cases this mod will mess with cryptid balance

pure shuttle
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oil lamp just objectively should be epic

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same with chad i think

bronze patio
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quickload code done

bronze patio
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seed patch and reboot left

bronze patio
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reboot and seed are left

bronze patio
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only reboot left

bronze patio
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all code cards are done

slender anvil
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yay

weak olive
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YAYYYYY

sinful cloak
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entropy tomorrow

bronze patio
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so true

slender anvil
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add potassium compat

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flipped potassium legendaries

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Ukpolg and Rehtompolg

slender anvil
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  • x0.1 glop and ^^2 glop respectively
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or sfark

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sfark update real

slender anvil
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Entropy Tomorrow?

slender anvil
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btw is s'Kciroy hand size at X2 or X2.3

primal pulsar
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πŸ‘€

bronze patio
slender anvil
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goid πŸ‘

bronze patio
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i think this is not intended

tawny lotus
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Deck cards

bronze patio
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this might actually be impossible

sinful cloak
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20b ante 1 goes hard

bronze patio
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the scaling here comes from an optional setting thats off by default to scale the scores faster if you have higher rarity jokers but i thought this was funny enough to add too

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theres like 2 ways i can think to beat this rn

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doe -> blessing -> run -> get helios in the shop

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or redefined deck -> get helios in your deck

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basically get helios through shenanigans

primal pulsar
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ermm why is trib 10 of clubs

bronze patio
primal pulsar
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wtf

bronze patio
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just like ccd deck this is also based on a bug

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that i had when making #define

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where the redefined cards would sometimes appear in the deck

sinful cloak
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money beanstalk 2 of clubs goes hard

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also this is basically just CCD deck 2

bronze patio
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i mean yeah basically

slender anvil
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Corrupted CCD from Corruption if it was good

tawny lotus
sinful cloak
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20 billion score ante 1

tawny lotus
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Sorry I didn't know how to respond

bronze patio
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here it always applies no matter what

tawny lotus
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o

bronze patio
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its specifically score^^1.25

sinful cloak
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would it be better to apply the increase to the final value instead of base value?

bronze patio
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maybe i mean all it would do is make the boss and big blinds be even higher than the small blind but the next ante would be way higher than that anyway

bronze patio
tawny lotus
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Oh so it's the new marvellous

bronze patio
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its like atleast 200% more awesome

primal pulsar
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its super exotic

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or hyper exotic

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idk

bronze patio
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entropy today

slender anvil
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entropy today

bronze patio
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hopefully i didnt miss any gamebreaking bugs

slender anvil
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i will find 5, gimme a sec

bronze patio
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did some playtesting myself but i got some people to help too

primal pulsar
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πŸ‘€

weak olive
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:(

bronze patio
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read install instructions

primal pulsar
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can we suggest entropy jokers

bronze patio
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yes

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im gonna work on reverse planets outside of sprites it will be really easy to do

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literally already got the functionality working

gleaming thistle
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entropy tomorrow /j

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oh wait its out?

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I was making a joke like "deltarune tomorrow" I shoulda scrolled up

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omw to try it out with almanac

peak vigil
wet tusk
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i've been trying with and without almanac, cant seem to get it running either way

gleaming thistle
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its probably this

wet tusk
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installed those too

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made sure folders were the right name too

peak vigil
bronze patio
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this is a sound issue for a file not existing but idk what the cause is

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since all the sounds should exist

gleaming thistle
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nvm im getting the same thing yeah

peak vigil
bronze patio
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idk if its an issue on my end or installed wrong but its 100% a sound issue

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especially because i didnt go out of my way to fix it and its not a thing for me

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someone who has the issue send me entropy.lua and the contents of the assets/sounds folder

wet tusk
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im positive i installed it correctly

bronze patio
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also new content

bronze patio
gleaming thistle
bronze patio
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yes i see the issue

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okay reinstall entropy from the github

peak vigil
bronze patio
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yea i figured it out

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i pushed the changes to the repository

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it was fixed for me but not pushed to the repo for some reason

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so i never encountered the issue

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this specific issue is a result of trying to find a sound file that doesnt exist usually due to a name mismatch

peak vigil
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yep, the game now boots into the main menu

gleaming thistle
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ill prolly try out the mod once almanac is updated (current cryptid / cryptid bignum doesnt have the compatibility code)

peak vigil
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softlock found
after using a card thats also a booster pack (either using all the choices or skipping) the cards aren't drawn back to your hand, forcing a run reset

bronze patio
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huh that shouldnt happen

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obviously but i mean i tested that

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doesnt happen for me

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what mods do you have

peak vigil
bronze patio
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weird

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yeah idk i cant recreate it

peak vigil
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it doesnt occur on the blind it happened on when i restart, but it does on the next

bronze patio
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i can fix that

wet tusk
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is this just any blind? i havent run into this issue

bronze patio
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i mean its probably a crossmod issue but i can fix it still

peak vigil
wet tusk
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and i have a bunch of other mods installed and i havent run into any issues

primal pulsar
# bronze patio yes

kind of a shitty drawing but im not a artist so i am not bothered to improve it
it's just there to give a general idea of how its supposed to look

The effects is basically the X/+Chips and X/+Mult daggers combined, however the left of the joker is contributing towards Chips and the right is towards Mult
Also, it would give slightly better stats than the daggers themselves just because I think it's funny
-# and I also want to mock Onyx Gate and Gluttonous Joker

bronze patio
bronze patio
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they are all named off of stars now

tawny lotus
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stellar cards?

bronze patio
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sprites arent done yet but this will be the color scheme with stars instead of planets

tawny lotus
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do the thing you did to helio-

bronze patio
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sol wil turn into like idk something mythological

wet tusk
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found a spelling error

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retigger

bronze patio
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i am blind

primal pulsar
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if its getting one anyway

bronze patio
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it is

primal pulsar
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oh my got

tawny lotus
bronze patio
wet tusk
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ooo

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also oil lamp seems to no longer exist (unless im blind)

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is that intentional

bronze patio
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oil lamp is epic now

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its like the 1 balance change this mod adds

wet tusk
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ive been looking for it in the collection

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i dont see it

bronze patio
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right next to turnip boy and cotton candy for me

wet tusk
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nope

bronze patio
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weird its there for me

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what mods are you playing with

wet tusk
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yeah i was thinking it might be a mods thing i have a sizeable mods folder

bronze patio
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if you have almanac then it bans oil lamp

wet tusk
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i have almanac's base mod removed

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and even if the lib is interfering somehow my config disables bans

bronze patio
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thats weird

wet tusk
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its still probably some mod interference though so i wouldnt worry about it unless someone else reports it

bronze patio
wet tusk
bronze patio
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seems like everything i took ownership of is gone for some reason

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but only due to a weird crossmod interaction and not with just entropy and cryptid

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try press control+space then type scalae

gleaming thistle
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Any "official" modpack to play with this mod?

bronze patio
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i just play with just cryptid and this but most things will work with it

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hopefully

wet tusk
bronze patio
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ctrl+space is meant to bring up a debug pointer menu but if youre using release cryptid then it probably wont work

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do you have debugplus installed?

wet tusk
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oh yeah i have debugplus

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i meant using it did nothing

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the menu showed up just fine

bronze patio
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type
eval add_joker("j_cry_scalae")

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if it does nothing then some mod is messing with take_ownership

wet tusk
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yeah it does nothing

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is there any way i can find out which one?

bronze patio
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youre just gonna have to disable mods until you find it

wet tusk
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alright

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also, is ferver supposed to make entropic jokers?

bronze patio
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no

wet tusk
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well it is

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for me at least

bronze patio
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oops

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fixed

wet tusk
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ive encountered a few additional issues as well, but i think talking about them would be spoilers for the mod

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should i dm you?

bronze patio
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yes

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easiest game ever

wet tusk
bronze patio
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outside of reverse planets i have 1 more gameplay idea i wanna do for the next update

wet tusk
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exciting

bronze patio
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i talked about it here its not really a secret ill repost it

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Deck of Containment
Beyond can show up in spectral packs like gateway
increase the chances the more things you do which you wouldnt be able to in real poker
chances resets when a beyond spawns
^chips less than 1 depending on how high the chances are

wet tusk
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interesting

bronze patio
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i wont count using regular consumables or jokers but i will count using inversed consumables for things you cant do in real poker

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otherwise it would be too easy

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the idea for this is actually relatively similar to a joker idea for none content set so its like none synnergy or whatever

tawny lotus
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Can't wait to play this mod

tardy river
tawny lotus
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Not as chaotic as almanac

sinful cloak
bronze patio
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almanac players try not to compare everything to almanac challenge

tardy river
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guy who's only played almanac playing his second ever balatro mod: getting a lot of almanac vibes from this

tawny lotus
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I barely play almanac anyway

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Extended antimatter deck

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Omg this is just as good as potassium

bronze patio
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btw if anyone knows someone who could help with music for this mod lmk because entropic jokers still need a theme

tardy river
bronze patio
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what is this supposed to mean

tardy river
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hi i do music things sometimes

bronze patio
pure shuttle
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im stupid

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how the fuck do you install entropy

bronze patio
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check pins

wet tusk
bronze patio
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a lot of these stars dont really have images for good reason so im just sorta making up the relative sizes and colours

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i want the size to roughly increase as the collection order goes up since thats how i picked the stars

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for higher hands i picked a known star with a larger solar mass

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this one was the top of the list

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well actually no

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i specifically went 3 down so i had some for the cryptid hands

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if anyone has ideas for void or the entire fucking universe let me know cause i got none

wet tusk
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perhaps universe could become multiverse

bronze patio
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that was my main idea

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but idk

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Void -> Dark Matter prob

wet tusk
#

as for void, perhaps the boΓΆtes void, or the great attractor

bronze patio
#

idk what ill do for suit planets probably rank planets but idk how good of an idea that is

pure shuttle
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just im stupid and dont understand this fsr

tawny lotus
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Or gravistar

bronze patio
# pure shuttle yeah i know the link

replace talisman and cryptid with the linked verisons of cryptid and talisman, to get the linked versions follow the link then click code and download as zip

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do the same for entropy then unzip them all to the mods folder

pure shuttle
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alright thanks

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also miscellaneous note no one cares about i probably will play with debug plus cause i wanna experience the jokers

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anyways goodbye

tawny lotus
#

What's that 1 blind about
I didn't install the mod yet and I can't use my pc

bronze patio
#

red room?

tawny lotus
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The entire fucking multiverse

wet tusk
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yooo

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that's awesome

bronze patio
peak vigil
pure shuttle
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Oops! The game crashed:
main.lua:1362: Could not find proper Talisman folder.
Please make sure the folder for Talisman is named exactly "Talisman" and not "Talisman-main" or anything else.

Additional Context:
Balatro Version: 1.0.1o-FULL
Modded Version: 1.0.0~BETA-0330a-STEAMODDED
LΓ–VE Version: 11.5.0
Lovely Version: 0.7.1
Platform: Windows

Stack Traceback

(3) global C function 'error'
(4) main chunk of file 'main.lua' at line 1362
(5) global C function 'require'
(6) LΓ–VE function at file 'boot.lua:323' (best guess)
Local variables:
c = table: 0x198a9558 {identity:false, version:11.5, accelerometerjoystick:true, modules:table: 0x198a95a8, gammacorrect:false, title:Balatro, externalstorage:false (more...)}
openedconsole = boolean: false
confok = boolean: true
conferr = nil
(7) global C function 'xpcall'
(8) LΓ–VE function at file 'boot.lua:362' (best guess)
Local variables:
result = boolean: true
(9) global C function 'xpcall'
(10) LΓ–VE function at file 'boot.lua:377' (best guess)
Local variables:
func = Lua function '(LΓ–VE Function)' (defined at line 355 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])
inerror = boolean: true
deferErrhand = Lua function '(LΓ–VE Function)' (defined at line 348 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])
earlyinit = Lua function '(LΓ–VE Function)' (defined at line 355 of chunk [love "boot.lua"])

bronze patio
#

all reverse planets give +1 ascension power other than the rare consumables and sol

bronze patio
bronze patio
#

show mods folder

pure shuttle
bronze patio
#

show inside the talisman folder

pure shuttle
sinful cloak
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you named it tailsman

pure shuttle
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yeah i named it tailsman

bronze patio
#

oh lol

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its talisman not tailsman

pure shuttle
#

TALISMAN

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😭

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i thought it was like

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tails-man

sinful cloak
#

no

wet tusk
#

happens to the best of us, just gotta double check the names

bronze patio
tawny lotus
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Only +1 ascension power

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Would be funny if...

tardy river
#

Entropic Joker theme made by yours truly, thanks again ruby for letting me do this! (headphones recommended)

sinful cloak
#

cooking

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okay this is peak

bronze patio
#

peak cinema

bronze patio
#

ultimate pair

slender anvil
#

did you change Teluobirt?

bronze patio
#

i fixed the typo thats all i changed

slender anvil
#

what is the effect, cuz the description is a bit vague on the retriggers

bronze patio
#

1st card is triggered once (0 retriggers) 2nd 2 times (1 retrigger) etc i was gonna have it double originally like the idea but it got even more out of hand than it does rn with how many retriggers build up

slender anvil
#

okay so you did change it a bit

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alright

bronze patio
#

i thought you meant recently cause the last thing i did to it was change the localisation

slender anvil
#

i was just wondering if you misread my description but no, you just adjusted that part

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πŸ‘

bronze patio
#

yeah

bronze patio
#

all the regular hand planets from cryptid are complete

bronze patio
wet tusk
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i think refined deck doesn't work

bronze patio
#

doesnt work how?

wet tusk
#

all the playing cards are default

bronze patio
#

huh weird

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it works for me

slender anvil
#

have you tried turning it off and on again?

bronze patio
#

crossmod issues will be the death of me

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but yeah you should try that

torn wave
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bro what

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i think the value manip one is bugged

bronze patio
#

some jokers aren't properly bignum blacklisted

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which jokers did you have when this happened

wet tusk
#

playing with less mods now so i can report crashes with less risk of them actually being my fault

torn wave
gleaming thistle
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if you have multipack installed, the voucher packs go into your consumables instead of the shop

pure shuttle
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so it sounds off

bronze patio
gleaming thistle
#

Are regular code cards planned for the mod, or just Code? cards?

bronze patio
#

i dont think ill add any more code cards but i wanna add some more spectrals and stuff

gleaming thistle
#

my brainbsstrom...

bronze patio
#

no more brainstorm allowed

gleaming thistle
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oh damn it

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well, runs over

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love/hate relationship with nopeus

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idk what causes this bug actually

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jimball doesnt work in this version for some reason

bronze patio
#

that might be a cryptid issue but ill look into it anyway

bronze patio
gleaming thistle
bronze patio
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idk about the almanac issues but ive run into the issue myself with negative playing cards from that one reverse code card

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something stops them from getting dissolved when they should

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i need ideas on what to do for neutron star, sol, and the suit planets but i will otherwise sprite the rest of the regular reverse planets

sinful cloak
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neutron -> least played, suit planets -> a different flavor of suit (rank planets?), sol -> make asc power more powerful multiplicatively instead of additively?

bronze patio
#

rank planets maybe but idk what I will do for the visuals

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since reverse planets are based on stars idk what to do for the regular planets that are stars already

tardy river
#

finally hopping on this today

bronze patio
tardy river
#

Choose 2

tawny lotus
bronze patio
#

new content

tardy river
#

lmao first crash of the mod! using automaton created divide and this happened

bronze patio
#

somehow a card area exists but its list of cards is null (not empty just null)

tardy river
#

got the cut card from a blessing, clicking on it gave the same crash

bronze patio
#

ill fix it rq

tardy river
#

reloading the save did fix it though? its working now

bronze patio
#

weird

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but it should be fixed now anyway

gleaming thistle
#

I could try making a sprite for it

bronze patio
#

cause i didnt think of that

bronze patio
#

theres a few things here that i didnt have space to fit in

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like entropy resets to 0 when beyond shows up and beyond doesnt destroy other entropic jokers anymore

bronze patio
#

i love the exp and tetrational chip sounds so much

primal pulsar
#

bro is that a seeded planet card

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OH ITS A SEEDED LUA CARD

bronze patio
primal pulsar
#

Wtf

bronze patio
#

star version of planet.lua from cryptid

primal pulsar
#

ok it's a fair enough seed
but you're better off holding it onto something better

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πŸ’‘

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space joker but ascension power????

bronze patio
#

2 ascension power is pretty good because it makes all hand level ups more powerful and also using sol makes that hand stronger by default too

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i was pretty unsure about ascension power as a mechanic for reverse planets but ive done some testing and its pretty good

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i might make inversed cards even more common though

primal pulsar
#

yeah i think this is good stuff

bronze patio
#

im tempted to make twisted packs be able to show up by default and the voucher instead increases the chances

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idk

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the main mechanic of the mod rn is a little uneventful unless you get lucky or play one of the custom decks

grand dock
#

Used one of the corrupted code cards that did something along the lines of int *= int (definitely misremembered) and now my game just crashes like this while loading lol.

abstract gust
#

can i download it?

bronze patio
#

is talisman installed correctly

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cause that line wouldnt really break otherwise

bronze patio
grand dock
bronze patio
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the tetrate function apparently doesn't exist which I know it does so something is wrong with talisman

grand dock
#

Reinstalling Talisman did it. Thank you! Weird crash. Possible I was using the wrong talisman version by mistake.

bronze patio
#

perhaps

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yeah the memory leak card is an inversion or crash both of which crash the game on purpose

bronze patio
#

this game is easy

torn wave
bronze patio
#

you never have more than 1 ^chips

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but i can change it

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its just a downside for having a higher chance for beyond and spectral packs to show up

torn wave
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ahhh i see

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make this a sleeve- okno

bronze patio
#

its not really a thing you can control either unless you play jokerless and consumableless

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ill make sleeves at some point

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you can make it go higher faster but you cant slow it down that much unless you buy nothing ever

primal pulsar
#

i will owe you everything i have if you add a Spore reference

bronze patio
#

maybe

weak olive
#

do you plan on making one for the black hole

bronze patio
#

yes

weak olive
#

whats your idea

bronze patio
#

all consumables from cryptid and vanilla will have inversions eventually

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White Hole -> Quasar
your most played hand gains ascension power equal to 1/3 of its level

Black Hole -> Pulsar
all hands gain 4 ascension power

weak olive
#

awesome

bronze patio
#

reverse planets update is taking even less time than i anticipated so it might be out soon no promises though

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13 sprites, and 4 effects are left

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might throw in another entropic joker if i feel like it too

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been conceptualising one based on scalae

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but that one might come last since it will be a nightmare to code

torn wave
bronze patio
#

thats a better idea than what i had which was just real stars

tawny lotus
#

How does entropy go up

primal pulsar
#

like scoring enchanted cards

wet tusk
tawny lotus
#

Oh

bronze patio
tawny lotus
#

Orrr

bronze patio
#

yes

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entropy results in less chips but a higher chance for spectral cards and a higher chance for beyond/gateway in spectral packs

tawny lotus
#

Does entropy only exist in that deck

bronze patio
#

yes

bronze patio
tawny lotus
#

I never expected a green star to slide into here

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I thought they are impossible

bronze patio
#

they are

bronze patio
#

Highest Card

restive dove
bronze patio
#

hm?

wet tusk
bronze patio
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im glad people like the card art so far because im a perfectionist and i hate all the art i make

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its reassuring

wet tusk
#

you're amazing at art yeah

bronze patio
#

i still need ideas for stars for ceres, planet x, and eris

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i might go with the original idea of them just being real stars still but i wanted to do something more referential then i had no ideas for them

tardy river
#

ideas as in functions or names?

bronze patio
#

names

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all reverse planets function the same

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+2 ascension power to a specific hand

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which acts the same as if you had ascended it with 2 extra cards but it always applies

tardy river
#

for planet x you could do the Fuzzball, since it's also hypothetical

bronze patio
#

it makes all level ups stronger including future level ups but it also means using sol levels up that hand too by proxy

tardy river
#

hypothetical string theory object, provides a quantum description of black holes

bronze patio
#

interesting

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i mean its definitely themed correctly but that name is so silly

tardy river
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i only know this because one day i was bored and looked up hypothetical stars on wikipedia. i am not joking these are the things i do for fun

bronze patio
#

lol

tardy river
#

you could also go for specific named hypothetical stars, in fact that may be more thematically accurate

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34 Tauri is probably your best bet there because Planet X was originally invented to explain anomalies in Uranus and Neptune's orbit, and 34 Tauri was later revealed to just have been Uranus lol

bronze patio
#

i wanna make them wacky impossible colours too even if its not realistic

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just like i did for ophiuchi because homestuck reference

tardy river
#

(i have reopened the wikipedia page) coatlicue is a named one that could be any number of colors

bronze patio
#

yeah but i mean like ophiuchi is green which isnt possible irl

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because in homestuck ophiuchus is related to cherubs which are green skeleton monsters

tardy river
#

i think 34 Tauri's your best bet for Planet X thematically, plus you already have cassiopeiae why not get the other John Flamsteed one in there

bronze patio
#

ngl i chose the existing stars by going to list of largest named stars and picking names that sounded good

tardy river
sinful cloak
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no fucking way

tardy river
#

is this a glop reference ⁉️

bronze patio
tardy river
#

FUCK i should have made the arrows and circles green

tardy river
#

for ceres and eris you could just choose some random white dwarfs lol

bronze patio
#

that could work

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now i just need ideas for neutron star and sol

tardy river
#

well sol's easy, Nemesis

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hypothetical counterpart to the sun

bronze patio
#

idk what sol will even do though i had an idea for it to increase the n in the ascension formula instead of the base

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reverse sol i mean

tardy river
#

thats a good idea

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more exponent hooray!

bronze patio
#

so with no uses of sol it goes from (X1.25^ASC) to (X1.25^2ASC) for example

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(the 2 is not set in stone)

slender anvil
slender anvil
tardy river
#

thinking up a counterpart to neutron star is hard because its already a star thinkstare

slender anvil
#

proton star

tardy river
#

dear god could you imagine

slender anvil
#

no

tardy river
#

neutrino star? perhaps?

bronze patio
#

aka glop star

tardy river
#

OH

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youre so true

bronze patio
#

idk how ill sprite that but i have ideas

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nemesis will be really challenging though

slender anvil
tardy river
#

do you already have a planet.lua?

bronze patio
#

yeah

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its a little boring though

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these are all the cryptid ones so far

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i dont like dark matters card art either but i got lazy

tardy river
#

i think dark matter is very funny lol

slender anvil
#

how tf u gon flip Nibiru

bronze patio
#

none planet right?

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my original idea was to have it be a dead star

abstract gust
#

help i can't enter the game

tardy river
#

read the readme on the github page

torn wave
slender anvil
#

antistar

bronze patio
slender anvil
#

glop

tardy river
#

GLOP

bronze patio
#

i will add dog tags to entropy because i hate cat tags

slender anvil
#

woof

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+1 glop per tag

bronze patio
tardy river
#

what da dog doin

bronze patio
#

i might add different functionality for the merging than changing editions but idk

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changing rarities and changing the music if it was entropic or exotic was my main idea

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just suit planets left now and nemesis needs a sprite

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heres what the level up looks like too just sol but red

sinful cloak
#

rol

bronze patio
#

what if there was a fucked up red evil second window called nemesis that multiplied your score by nemesis

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reverse planets will prob be done in the next few days btw

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i have some other stuff i wanna put in the update too but it wont take that long

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next on the list of consumables will probably be spectrals i already have all the rare spectrals done now so may aswell finish the rest of them

tardy river
#

are you going to do tarots creature

bronze patio
#

yes

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tarots will be last

tardy river
#

cool so i have to speedrun my inverted tarots mod >:3

bronze patio
#

i wanted to leave them until last since i know the idea is a little generic and i wanna give myself as much time as possible to come up with ideas in the background

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but they were actually the original inspiration behind inversed consumables

tardy river
#

clever

bronze patio
#

thats also the same reason why i started with reverse code cards first cause i knew it would be easier than reverse spectrals but still really interesting

tardy river
#

its funny i came up with the concepts for my inverted tarots over christmas and then when i got back i thought "lol wouldnt it be funny if there were inverted other consumables" and then this dropped

bronze patio
#

lol

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i mean feel free to contribute ideas cause my so called coming up with ideas in the background has resulted in nil so far

tardy river
#

i have ideas for Every base game Tarot laugheline

bronze patio
#

completely unrelated but i wanna see if i can get some youtubers to play this mod at some point prob after reverse planets drop

#

entropy will be the first mod ever to make 1 entropillion dollars

tardy river
#

entrillion was right there

bronze patio
#

i already suggested murphy to play it idk if he will though

bronze patio
#

this mod will not just be inverted consumables anyway i just started doing that and then had to complete it so

#

alsoo dont count on this but i might have an M themed entropic joker in the planet update

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since they are for the most part based on exotics (therell be some fully unique ones in the future though)

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I wanna do trecedim next though

tardy river
#

tinnitus score

abstract gust
#

idk what happened but help

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no way

modest vigil
#

where download

sinful cloak
#

pinned

modest vigil
#

ty

bronze patio
#

today i will attempt to sprite nemesis (modern torture)

bronze patio
tardy river
bronze patio
#

the actual star is just a real image i modifed a shit ton to not look awful but whatever

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i think it looks good

weak olive
#

does this mod work with the almanac

abstract gust
#

now is not

sinful cloak
#

like half of it is broken

bronze patio
#

this is what peak balatro looks like

weak olive
#

πŸ˜”

bronze patio
#

almanac will prob ban this mod for changing ui stuff on deck of containment anyway

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but you can just disable bans and turn off straddle and tension/relief anyway

sinful cloak
#

just ban deck of containment

bronze patio
#

i will riot

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ill add crossmod support to the rarity stuff anyway at some point

#

but yeah almanac is just kinda broken rn

bronze patio
#

i mean its possible to get around bans anyway in a few ways

#

worst case scenario just override the error function since thats what almanac uses

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but thats like a really really bad solution

#

it also checks for mods existing in a really dumb way that makes it easy to bypass because all it checks for is keys in SMODS.Mods so you just change the key before almanac loads and then change it back after

#

that isnt just theoretical either i tested it cause i was bored

#

you could always just lovely patch into smods and do shenanigans that way there really isnt a way to stop that if youre careful without a lot of shenanigans

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i have a lot of strong thoughts about the bans system but thats probably reserved for a different place anyway

tawny lotus
bronze patio
#

just suit planets left and then M probably

tardy river
bronze patio
#

the best setup is all negative ieros anyway

#

after a certain number youre almost guaranteed to get rares or above

#

with 5 theres about a 44% chance of a joker upgrading rarity twice in a row

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and 17% for 3 times

tardy river
#

It showed up in the shop but I couldn’t afford it despair

bronze patio
#

you gotta get more econ

tardy river
#

that was right before I got that one acensio joker that gives you nutty econ

bronze patio
#

working on suit planets rn dont really have ideas for the visuals tbh

torn wave
#

rank stars

bronze patio
#

i mean ranks was my main idea but idk how to convey that or what to name them

torn wave
#

number, face, ace, stone, yes

bronze patio
#

akqj and stone yeah prob

weak olive
#

Did you already do the ones for tefd, clusterfuck, bulwark and ultimate pair?

bronze patio
#

yes

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let me boot up the game

weak olive
#

ngl i love planet cards and their arts

#

they're what i look forward to the most in mods

bronze patio
weak olive
#

AWESOMEEE

bronze patio
weak olive
#

That's hilarious

#

Did you find your stars for the planet x, ceres and the other one?

bronze patio
weak olive
#

hell yeah

bronze patio
#

where do the suit plant names come from btw

sinful cloak
#

finnish or something

bronze patio
#

obviously its translated but like which language

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supernova probably for the last one if i can be assed to sprite it

sinful cloak
bronze patio
#

kivi left only

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then reverse planets are done

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my high card is worth 100 million rn with x6 mult krusty as my only scoring joker

primal pulsar
#

balanced

#

wait

bronze patio
#

now 2 billion

primal pulsar
bronze patio
#

inverted deck

#

from this mod

primal pulsar
#

interesting

bronze patio
#

decimal ascension factor is kinda cursed but surprisingly it works very well

bronze patio
#

reverse planets out now

restive dove
#

ah wait you already got one

#

shit, sorry

wet tusk
#

pulsar and quasar in the same shop

#

i still cant get over how pretty these sprites are

slender anvil
#

preby

#

@bronze patio would you like if i fucked up a shader for something in Entropy?

bronze patio
#

it would be pretty cool but idk what id use it for

#

maybe some custom editions when i feel like doing that/for reverse spectrals

slender anvil
#

just tell me what it should be and i will try maybe

bronze patio
#

when i get around to doing the edition spectrals is when ill probably need them although i think it will just be 2 new editions instead of 6 like in cryptid

bronze patio
#

Trecedim++: removes all hands other than pairs, all jokers are jolly joker or trecedim (totally serious idea)

bronze patio
#

since i am number 1 ascended hands superfan the edition that is gained from one of the reverse spectrals will probably be an on fire card that grants +1 asc factor when scored

#

Ritual -> Engulf
apply solar to 1 selected card

Solar
+1 asc power

tawny lotus
bronze patio
#

when scored

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or triggered for jokers

tawny lotus
#

What if it was on a joker
If it gives 1 asc power when triggered too then at this point ascension power should be its own window like glop

#

Oops

#

Well ok

#

I didn't see

bronze patio
#

i mean ascension power kinda does have its own window anyway in the form of the little + next to the hand name

tawny lotus
#

m

bronze patio
#

i might try steer away from ascension power related mechanics anyway so idk if this is final

#

reverse planets are entirely ascension based so theres probably enough of that for a while

#

having a hard time coming up with anything for spectrals this is the worst

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Lock -> Weld
make 1 selected joker negative (idk about this part) and absolute

#

Deja Vu -> Rendezvous
apply a crimson seal to 1 selected card in hand

Crimson Seal
retrigger this card 2 times
this card does not trigger until the end of scoring
(so for example 1.5x from steel would trigger after all the jokers instead of before)
(this might not be feasible to code even)

#

Purple Seal -> Pink Seal
when discarded, destroy this card and create 2 inversed cards (must have room)

slender anvil
#

whats the reverse crash again?

bronze patio
#

memory leak

#

it just crashes the game but funky

slender anvil
#

πŸ˜”

#

/ rm -rf

bronze patio
#

honestly might change it when i have to do the new code cards

slender anvil
#

wipes out everything

bronze patio
#

so true

#

none synergy???

slender anvil
#

NONE HAND NONE EXOTIC NONE SYNERGY???

bronze patio
#

none entropic synergy when

slender anvil
#

oh i cant wait for Entropic Vanitas

bronze patio
#

itll be so awesome

wet tusk
slender anvil
bronze patio
#

i like it

#

ace would prob be more common though like 1/3 or 1/4

#

since its riskier

slender anvil
#

tru

#

should delete all the things one by one instead of all at once

#

the -r part

#

see your whole net worth slowly slip through your fingers

bronze patio
#

gonna try come up with effects for the new code cards as they are made

#

Function -> Detour
create an inversed version of the last used consumable if one exists

#

Quantify -> ???
apply a random suit and rank to a selected card and place it into the deck

wet tusk
#

also is universum not working on ascended hands intended

#

that might be on cryptid's end actually

#

nvm

bronze patio
#

honestly might still go with the +1 asc power edition for reverse spectrals even if this mod overuses asc power currently

peak canyon
#

If this mod has a bit more work put in to be compatible with newer versions and bugs worked out, then it will go far .

bronze patio
#

it will be compatible with newest cryptid whenever the bignum changes get merged but the bignum branch should have most of the newer changes that are in main anyway

sinful cloak
#

does that mean like main should have the changes in bignum or bignum should have the changes in main

bronze patio
#

bignum iirc has most of the new stuff added to main like the new jokers

sinful cloak
#

there's no new jokers in bi-

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like wonka bar and high five i mean

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not exactly new

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but like in terms of releases they were in the most recent release and not the one before it

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tardy river
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lol

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they also trigger after jokers

primal pulsar
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yes

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Blue Seal -> Indigo Seal
create a reverse planet card for the played hand if this card is part of the hand
(must have room)

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Azure Seal -> Cerulean Seal
if this card is part of played hand, create 4 corresponding negative reverse planets and destroy entire played hand

sinful cloak
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peak

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all the seal spectrals will probably just have associated reverse seals since idk what else i could do

gentle bluff
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This is best Cryptid addon tbh, goes hard as hell

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but its interesting enough anyway

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its why i playtest myself a ton

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cause it lets me more easily know if its something thats actually fun to play with or not

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having playtesters is nice since im not infallible but sometimes youre going to get the most direct feedback from how you feel when playing

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what could an reverse gold seal do

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Green Seal -> Verdant Seal
Create a random Code? card if this is the only scored card in hand

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i know it could be a silver seal or smth

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platinum or bismuth was my main ideas

tardy river
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i was thinking of +1 enthopy

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something to do with creating value in a different way than just giving you money

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but that wouldnt work well would it

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that would only work on one deck anyway

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fair lol

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i actually had a similar idea for my mod, a silver seal that acted like a steel card but only if played and unscored

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scrapped it so feel free to steal (do you. do you get it)

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banished forever

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i already got one for purple seal too

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Pink Seal
destroy this card and create 2 reverse cards (must have room) when discarded

torn wave
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this is the worst

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rainbow seal... trollgay

tardy river
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sapphire seal

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that sounds good

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huge

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this is why i should be lead dev cluegrin

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i kinda wanna make corruption crossover stuff for this now

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wip but heres the seal colors rn

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Split-Color Seal (Twisted Indigo Seal)

  • Create the Twisted version of the last Spectral card used if this card is held while something Corrupts
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i will forevermore boost the idea of a rainbow seal

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whenever i actually start adding more content that isnt inversions of existing content i might add a rainbow seal

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basically every time i add a consumable now though i need to do twice as much work

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but its fine

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i see