#Ryker Log Review

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glossy hull
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Someone will get it

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Someone will get it

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Maybe

rotund dune
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Thank

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Np

glossy hull
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Might be me later tonight we’ll see PepeLaugh

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EU is sleeping

rotund dune
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Yeah, I just figured it's best to get yelled at about skolex

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before I do any aoe fights

sterile geode
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eu is sleep but na is Wokege

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ok so kyrian opener

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doesn't generally include crimson vial but

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strike - slice and dice - sod + symbols + echoing reprimand - rupture - dance + go

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you can use dance on the rupture global as well that part kidna doesn't matter

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having ur first er in the fight 23 seconds in isn't good

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i assume you just forgot to press it or something?

rotund dune
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I forgot to press it yes

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And yeah, i'm not sure why I Vialed, fat finger maybe

sterile geode
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ya it happens

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so here u dont want to be entering dance with a finisher

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im assuming you were going to cap here because of the mistake with er maybe?

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also not sure why you had to get off boss here

rotund dune
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I think blood was in a shit spot

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and had to backup

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So I always want to finisher before I dance

sterile geode
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you always want to dance on low combo points

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if you are doing to dance cap its better to use but that generally means you made a mistake earlier

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ok and on the second half of that screenshot you global lock urself at almost the same time u press symbol dance

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so you essentially waste a global in ur cds

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rupture should not be refreshing inside of symbols/dance and you would prefer to reapply slice outside as well, if its going to fall during you probably made a mistake before as well

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also u want to get vanish on cd earlier i assume u forgot to use that probably

rotund dune
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So it's worth delaying my sod/SD to refresh rupture or try to get them up at the end of SD

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also when do you genuinely use vanish, after SD runs out/

sterile geode
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so you dont want to delay but you dont want to refresh either

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so you want to have like slice and rupture rolling while in symbols

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so just refresh them earlier basically

rotund dune
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So it's fine to refresh in SD but not SOD?

sterile geode
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you want to refresh both rupture and dance outside of shadow dance or symbols

rotund dune
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Gotcha

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So normally one or the other at the tail-end of SD would be the most optimal, if I have CP leftover after

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Otherwise try to vanish for SS and refresh

sterile geode
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IF you made a mistake and both run out only during a dance you can reapply slice and dice

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but you do not refresh rupture inside sod or dance

rotund dune
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Alright.

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I'll try to hit a target dummy in a bit here and send it

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after a bit of time on it

sterile geode
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you want a backstab inbetween ur dances for perforated veins

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so ur not overcapping stacks

rotund dune
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Gotcha

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so dont SD into SD

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SD, backstab, SD

sterile geode
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yes

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but you still dont want to dance on high cps

rotund dune
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is high 4+

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or 3+

sterile geode
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so sd -> stab -> (finish if at 5+ cp) -> dance

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or you can stab again if ur at 4

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so again just dont finish ur first dance global

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but u also dont want to use echoing reprimand during dance

rotund dune
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so a good time to use ER is when im getting the backstab for veins

sterile geode
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so er is fine to use in SOD but not dance

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and anytime outside of dance if u wont overcap cp

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so ur priorities during dance are

  1. finish on 5+ cp
  2. strike to build cp
  3. refresh slice and dice if it is not rolling (you would prefer to not do this)
rotund dune
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Alright, I'll read over all of this again, then go smack a dummy for a few minutes, then take a log

sterile geode
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ok u can post it here again if u want me to look

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just ping me or smtn

rotund dune
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Will do.

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Appreciated

rotund dune
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@sterile geode

the sd into sd at the end can be ignored.

was stopping my logs.

Other than that, I think this should loook better?

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A bit of CP waste, but I'm still getting used to the randomly generated.

sterile geode
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so overall it looks a lot better still a couple things to mention

rotund dune
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oh that

sterile geode
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you're still forgetting to stab between dances especially in the opener

rotund dune
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Yeah

sterile geode
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also gcd locking urself and then pressing sod/dance

rotund dune
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So try to wait for the animation to finish before I go into

sterile geode
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well wait for ur gcd to come up

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know what i mean or no?

rotund dune
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yes

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the uh
Thing that goes around abilities right?

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'greys' them out

sterile geode
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yes

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rogue has a fixed 1second gcd so you can only cast an ability ever second

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except things like symbols/dance/blades that are off the global cooldown

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sub wants to fit as many gcds into your dmg amps as possible

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so locking urself out like that basically guarantees you lose a global in ur dmg amp

rotund dune
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I gotcha

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So just step off the adhd a bit

sterile geode
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a little ya

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also i would not recommend macroing things together

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but if ur still learning its not the worst

rotund dune
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I have the opener macro that has
Blades,
Dance, and symbols

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then one for symbols/dance

sterile geode
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yea it just cuts down on ur flexibility but i did it when i was learning the spec too and just slowly started making separate binds

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so just something to think about once you start to really min max

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if u want to

rotund dune
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well
You dont want to cast sod by itself ever right

sterile geode
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so sod is 10 seconds and dance is 8

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so if u are on high cp when sod comes up you can sod + evisc -> dance

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or if u are chaining dances and sod comes up when u have a perforated veins backstab you want to sod -> stab -> dance

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or you want to press echoing reprimand during sod

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so a couple situations

rotund dune
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I gotcha.

For now I'll avoid it until I get used to the rotation

sterile geode
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yea np

rotund dune
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Once I get to where I was with outlaw, no brain just do

sterile geode
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not a massive thing but like i said just something to think about

rotund dune
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I'll set out more binds

sterile geode
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i'd be lost if u put me on outlaw so fair enough lol

rotund dune
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I miss outlaw

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but what can u do

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when raid lead wants sub

sterile geode
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u can tell ur raid leader he is an idiot and that it does not matter at all what spec u play

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a good outlaw rogue will be better than a medoicre sub rogue

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in every situation except mass aoe

rotund dune
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just fix outlaw tier set

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smh

sterile geode
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¯_(ツ)_/¯