shades log analysis

[elfin snow]

What is that vanish in the opener btw

cause if its deathly u wanna cast snd before the strike or your losing cp

and also so u can swap gear

I suspect it was a sort of ninja pull?

this dance here doesnt seem great

either can be delay or maybe even sent earlier

commenting on the er in dance and the open gcd

seems like a sorta movement heavy phase

@austere shuttle fuu made a thread btw

[austere shuttle]

oh, ty!

where is the ideal spot to drop my on use trinket in my opener? with my shadowblades? or my echo?

[vast igloo]

with symbols

unless its a very specific trinket like aquired cache

[elfin snow]

that same dance has u refreshing rupture too

u cast very few good spells in it

also are u holding blades for dance symbols at like 103 or just a happy coincidence?

u also seem to be running double celestial instead of celestial + sinful

But ye the main thing in the log seems to be the missed strikes due to hotbar swaping as well as some ineffective dances

[austere shuttle]

I'm running celestial + lightless force, just what I had on from M+

[elfin snow]

aaah

[austere shuttle]

how many eviserates/SS should I aim to get in dance window?

[elfin snow]

8s so 8 gcds

rogue has a fixed 1s gcd

[austere shuttle]

oh thats neat, is that unique to sub? and haste doesn't adjust it?

[elfin snow]

thats unique to energy classes

[austere shuttle]

so haste doesn't adjust the gcd of energy classes, just the energy regen? TiL lol

[elfin snow]

ye

energy reegen and atk spd

But ye remmeber that having 2 charges of dance means u have a lot of wiggle room

sometimes holding slightly longerr or sending slightly early will allow for better sync ups with other cds/boss mechanics

as kyrian we can play pretty agresive on our dances

esp if u remember that a properly executed dance gives a lot of cd back on dance

so dont be scared to send a dance even if its like symbols in 12s and 30s recarge on next dance

but in the same way dont send a dance if u have maintenance to do

[austere shuttle]

ok, ty for all the info!
I have some questions I've accumulated from just playing sub rogue in general (mainly M+) could I drop them here?

[elfin snow]

here or the other chat, other chat might be better as more ppl will see

[austere shuttle]

ok 👍
and just to recap, the best way to get the most out of dances would be to get 8gcds, which would be around 3 eviserates? and only have the cp spenders be eviserates
would I want to open each dance with a full eviserate?

[elfin snow]

nope

dance actually gives more value when u replace a bakcstab with an ss than a non dance evis with a dance evis

so starting with a strike makes more sense

thats why if u have a case where u have symbols and dance up at max cp u actually symbols-finish-dance-strike

assume u arent at 2 charges

[austere shuttle]

Ik I'm suppose to use symbols when I'm around 40-60~ energy, should I delay it until a shadowstrike or two after dance? or should I try to make sure I'm lower on energy when I go into dance as to not waste the energy it gives?

also what should my echoing reprimand look like during my shadowblades rotation?

[elfin snow]

Sorry was away for a bit, erm the symbols thing doesnt comer up as often as u think... u never wanna delay just proactivly be at low energy when ur next symbosl is coming

just er on cd out of dance

dont hold er for dance try and be smart about ur dances so u have the cd come up when ur out of dance. As for hitting the anima charged cp dont worry about it too much u have 45s

just send if u land on them out of dance