#jake log review

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spiral fog
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you can start out with strike-symbols-er-rupture
or even er-rupture (i did sim that for somone just recently, and it did end up equal)

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can do even strike-symbols-er-dance-rupture

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would also directly mean you can dance a 2nd time

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this did cost you quite a bit (ouch)

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rupture here should be before dance

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you basically always want to rupture outside of dance

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this is very min/max.
you did delay symbols rly minimal first 2 uses, if you wouldn't you could have used symbols-er-dance here

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BUT, your first er use was at 3 secs, what means you did delay er quite a bit here, could have used it above on ~47

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the double rupture in dance here is not great

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those 2 seem fine as i assume it was on the adds, still unsure if its worth rupturing them as they usually die very quick

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you lost a global here

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it probably would have been better to er-finish-vanish here

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Not going to post repeating issues to much.
Some things you can work on are:

  • use er on cd, you often forgot about it or delayed it by quite a bit
  • no rupture in dance
  • make sure to not dance when you need to get off the boss (even tho only happened one time that you dropped a lot of shadow dance time)
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also, when we look at er, you did miss to use certain anima charged points, might look into getting all of them done.
The higher ones should be doable in dance.
esp. 2 cp one is likely out of dance, if you are close to a sht proc with 1 cp, probably worth to wait for the proc then finish

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shb uptime was about what you expect from 2p

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shadow dance uptime was a bit lower than expected but thats a consequence of missing out casts in dance and missing anima charged cp

austere summit
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@spiral fog thank you my guy. You were looking at vojax across all the fights btw right?

spiral fog
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oh

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wrong one?

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fuck

austere summit
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Again with this

spiral fog
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who of them are you

austere summit
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Vojax

spiral fog
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then its fine

austere summit
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Ok perfect

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You’re the man thank you for the help

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Could those misplays make up that crazy dps loss or is that also gear/daggers

spiral fog
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better gear is always relevant, so i would say it is a combination of both

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he has 4p ?

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4p double eon kekw

austere summit
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Not till the end of that raid

spiral fog
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he had it on the fight

austere summit
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Most of the fights he did not

spiral fog
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oh, i did only look at sylvanas

austere summit
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Sylv?

spiral fog
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*anduin

austere summit
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Normal Or H?

spiral fog
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the one you linked

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so normal

austere summit
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Oh true

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Yeah I guess it doesn’t matter? My rotation wouldn’t have changed that much

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Like I did perfectly fine on halondrus heroic

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I think?

spiral fog
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you also did this on halondrus

austere summit
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Lol idk was probably doing mechanics

spiral fog
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should have delayed dance here

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only minor mistake tho

austere summit
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I know it’s a lot of fights but if you get the chance can you browse more to look for continued glaring issues? Also am I back stabbing too much?

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Should I be pooling at all? I feel like I’m missing ss casts

spiral fog
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you have a habbid to use dance before symbols comes up

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also sometimes rly get unlucky, but lose 1 or more casts during dance

austere summit
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Yeah I kept hitting 5

spiral fog
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you at least forgot to backstab here between dances

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ye, you fucked yourself hard here

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basically send symbols into nothing

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also er charges, seem to not be used

austere summit
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I have a habit of trying to hit them in dance and missing a lot

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Gotta stop

spiral fog
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it just needs a bit to get used to

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so, will get better with time

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shadow dance uptime is a bit lower than expected with 2p

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expected is around 55%+

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but could be that you had bad procs

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as your shb uptime was also only 45%

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while average is 50%

austere summit
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Which fight

austere summit
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Ok the fight I thought I did okay on perfect

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Thank you again fuu I’m gonna be hitting dummies all day

austere summit
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@spiral fog should I be pooling energy a little before a dance? Is 6 SS in a dance the most important thing for sub? (aside from syncing a dance with symbols)

spiral fog
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you don't rly need to pool when using sf

austere summit
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Ok I’ve been hitting a dummy for a minute and I’m having the hardest time getting 6 strikes, I keep getting 5 so I’m missing something

spiral fog
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if you get 5 that is perfectly fine

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but strike-strike-evi-strike-strike-evi-strike-strike

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should be no problem to hit

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if you try to force that

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on the dummy

austere summit
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I gotta count my globals

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Is it possible to have too much crit leading to more evis?

spiral fog
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not sure how crit impacts your rotation

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assassination is crit dependent, for subtlety it only means more damage

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you can use mystlers gcd aura

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it shows you the casts

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or details also has something like this (or trufigcd)

austere summit
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Idk maybe I have lag? I can’t get in 8 global every time

spiral fog
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maybe ye

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is your spell queue window set to a very low value?

austere summit
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How do I check that

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I only have 30ms

spiral fog
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/dump GetCVar("SpellQueueWindow")

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its best to have it around 200+

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you can set it with
/console SpellQueueWindow 250

austere summit
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set to 400

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idk what this means. should i swap it to 250?

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then go back to hitting dummy

spiral fog
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400 is fine

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you sure you don't hit all 8?

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if you use a dance+ strike macro its likely that you forget to count that as 1 cast

austere summit
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I have a WA counting PV stacks

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I can get 6 on like the opener only?

spiral fog
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you should usually get 5-6 in dance

austere summit
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Ok what about the scenario where I’m
-dance coming off CD in 10ish
-symbols coming off CD in 4
-1 dance charge ready

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Do I let dance overcap, and sit on 2 for a little bit and sync dance and symbols?

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Or just roll dances back to back and pop symbols on CD? (Still get a backstab in?)

spiral fog
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you use dance if its about to cap

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you can dance-symbols during it- bs - dance

austere summit
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I’ve usually been waiting till about 15s left on second charge to build, but now I have 2P so what do you mean use more aggressively

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Like I can now pop 1st at 20-25 seconds left? I should always keep a dance in the chamber for symbols right?

spiral fog
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more agressively rly means, you can fire dance when ready more or less

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you still want to do it on low cp

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and ofc maybe not when symbols is up very soon

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and wait to line it up

austere summit
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So using a 2nd dance with symbols and sitting waiting for everything to build back isn’t a big deal?

spiral fog
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not sure i understand the question

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you basically can use dance fairly free

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only thing to consider is symbols

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and you have rly high uptime on dance esp. with 2p or 4p

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so you can use it more agressive

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what means not waiting for your charges to be close to full, but just using it. But also maybe not fire your last charge 8 secs before symbols

austere summit
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ok thank you fuu <3 i appreciate it

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gonna keep hitting dummys

golden portal
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noob

austere summit
austere summit
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ok i think i figured it out

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would ~8apm slower make up for such a dps loss?