#Enkazeel log review
untold cradle
rok is referring to a bar lag thats just a part of the game
any time you have strike and stab macro'd together
you have to go through some sort of check to see if you're in a stance
stark wedge
^
stark wedge
ty for explaining it better than i can lol
untold cradle
that's when you get this
you hit dance and the gcd came up before the bar swapped fully
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jesus fucking christ
first time dealing with a class that has stances/stealth so i figured it wouldnt do that
stark wedge
thats one reason of many why binding things together is not good
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did it for an opener - gotcha
untold cradle
probem 1 is you're using cache and you want to use it with a specific buff on cache
which you're 100% not timing with that macro :P
problem 2 is you're using symbols and blades way before you flag
in general, the combo will always be flag-finish-symbols
flag-symbols-finish is fine
as is symbols-flag-finish
but the symbols has to be on the flag
you're missing the uptime during flag
which is a no no
generally speaking though your rotation is okay for the most part
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I was using hekili that first couple days of sub to get a feel for the spec, jesus I am way off now
stark wedge
also why is ur second shadowblades not until 4:30
untold cradle
I couldn't tell you what the hell is happening here
random storm, the giga macro, dance into a finisher
and then missing a gcd in the dance as well for some reason
kinda weird
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also why is ur second shadowblades not until 4:30
literally wasnt paying attention to that one, i remembered that
untold cradle
this is one of the bigger issues though
with obedience you should be getting flag onto every other symbols
every minute
stark wedge
also you dont want to reapply slice/rupture during dance
untold cradle
^
for the most part though you were fine on that
I only saw it maybe twice
not a big deal
the other thing which is weird is it gets kinda spacey for no real reason
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The big two takeways are proper flag usage and using spenders in it to reduce cd, and stopping the shared keybind for back/shadowstrike
untold cradle
like here
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Sometimes I am low on energy
untold cradle
you use symbols, you should be capped on energy
but you're like
not casting anything
and then you get a slice off, which refunds a bunch of energy
stark wedge
u want to get 27+ flag stacks every time or else you usually made a mistake
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I am spamming my keybinds. So confused
untold cradle
it's like weird 1 second delays
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Sorry not trying to argue, I used to orange parse on my ele sham so that is why I am so confused here
stark wedge
are u in range
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Yea unless I am getting knocked from skolex
guess I can make a wa to yell at me when not in range but my mdps dmg % makes me think I am
Okay I will make a note of the flag stacks
the delayed hits are a bit confusing
stark wedge
u will energy starve sometimes but that only happens when ur either spamming bs or u enter a lone dance at low energy
but there u symbols + finish so there is almost no way u aren't energy capped
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Alrighty. Srsly tahnk you so much for the help, I have been banging my head against the wall for a week with this now
stark wedge
its going to feel bad at first but just un-macro everything and build good habits
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Literally doing it as we speak
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@stark wedge Not sure if this is relevant or not, but I had another rogue ask me about energy management which sort of gave me a blank stare moment. Used to spamming abilities the moment they are available on other classes, and he mentioned that never being capped on energy is of course is important, but so is managing it correctly and not rushing your backstabs and shadowstrikes to be at 0 energy because if you waiting to evis due to energy you may be proccing and wasting combo points as you cant evis
untold cradle
shadow focus basically handles all your energy issues
if you play tornado you can pool a bit of energy before going into dance
but out of dance you shouldn't really care for energy
out of dance you'll be starved and that's fine
stark wedge
^this guy knows way more than i do
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Well damn then - this is my N halondrus kill from last night. Tried to work on a few things you guys gave me but I still get lost at times - I know I still need to be better at managing my symbols and dance more effectively, also noticed I wasted some energy and more importantly combo points this encounter. Still working on my opener - any other major fuckups that are holding me back? Sorry to keep bother you guys, just really apprecaite the valuable feedback
untold cradle
the waste is a little high
but it's nothing crazy
sub naturally has waste
it's unavoidable
this hurts to look at a little
half the flag basically just had nothing
that's causing you to still be missing flag casts
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Yea I knew I fucked that one up when I was doing it - panicked. Whats the Ideal flag window?
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rok mentioned 29+ earlier
untold cradle
yeah It doesn't have to be that high
but you should be able to consistently get at least 26
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but should i be refreshing rupture and slice before popping flag
and mainly SS/BS+Evis during flag?
untold cradle
ideally yeah
but if you have to refresh it, its not a big deal
it's really just the first 2 flags are terribly
23 stacks on the first, 21 on the second
you're essentially missing a finisher in every flag
that first flag is just downtime
this flag you didn't have a dance
this one is the third, you actually got to 29 on this one, but you only had 1 dance for it, which is kinda unlucky
that 1 dance thing got you in trouble on the next, which made you miss a finisher. It would've been fine if you had not danced into flag, but you wasted 2 seconds on the dance, those are the cp you're missing
should never never never never dance before flag
always flag - finish then dance
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ooookay
untold cradle
the only reason you dance before flag is your opener when you're already capped on charges and you would be overcapping like 20 seconds
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that was my next question
untold cradle
it's really just the first 2 flags are terribly
this one is your second to last, which according to this is also one of your high stack ones
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Was curious if I dance before or flag, finisher, dance
untold cradle
your last one is just wasted time again
the issue with flag/dance is you want to flag into a finisher every time
but you never want to dance on high combo points
dance enables shadowstrike, that's the main gain
so you usually want to finish dance
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yea that makes complete sense
untold cradle
otherwise though it's looking okay
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I always get stuck backstabbing towards the end of a flag and i feel thats why i am missing the finishers
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worth dancing twice during flag or is the one dance plenty?
untold cradle
if you can dance twice you should
but you have to make sure to not starve yourself for the next symbols
the idea is to get 2 dance for flag, 1 for symbols, 2 for flag, 1 for symbols, 2 for flag, 1 for symbols
but eventually you run out of juice
with 2 piece might be possible to keep that going, haven't tested it
and honestly probably never will because I play venth on halondrus just to save time on reclear and it's like a 4min clear
and I don't think I'm going to starve in that time
but anyway
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Alrighty thank you again whispyr!