Palmers log review | Ravenholdt | Page 1

reef iron Nov 3, 2021, 5:13 PM

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So first of all your opener is a bit scuffed.

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Not sure why you decided to open like this

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You should be using Flag before the first rupture, not before the first Envenom

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Also consider taking MfD instead of Vigor, it's quite a bit better by default and even more so with adds.

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@boreal thicket can take it from here.

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pepe_smoke

tranquil lava Nov 3, 2021, 5:15 PM

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reef iron You should be using Flag before the first rupture, not before the first Envenom

Come to think of it, I've always done flag AFTER rupture... sigh

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I'm dumb

boreal thicket Nov 3, 2021, 5:15 PM

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There are a few basic things you can do to improve.

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First.you missed two casts.
You missed a fusion amp cast, and an extra pot.
You also might have been able to squeeze another flag cast in there, especially with multiple PIs monkascheme

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Secondly, you overcapped on muts, you fool!
Three casts went off and were in excess

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And like Cev said opener has been the same for venthyr for a while:
Mut > SnD > Mut > garrote > flag > rupture

tranquil lava Nov 3, 2021, 5:18 PM

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I think my over-casts are the lag delay

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I need to adjust it, it's still at default

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Sometimes I'll crit but Mut is already queued up

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And I can't stop it

boreal thicket Nov 3, 2021, 5:18 PM

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There are ways to fix that because I do it as well, kekl

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The big thing I see are the missed casts though

tranquil lava Nov 3, 2021, 5:19 PM

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I thought I prepotted on that pull

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I normally pot at 2s on the timer

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I must have missed it

boreal thicket Nov 3, 2021, 5:19 PM

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You may have, hold

tranquil lava Nov 3, 2021, 5:19 PM

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I don't think I did. I don't see the buff active at the beginning of the fight

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And yeah, I normally save SFA for the eye itself and I don't use CDs during the add phases

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They normally come up when the adds are at like 15% so it seems like a waste

boreal thicket Nov 3, 2021, 5:20 PM

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You did

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7 seconds before monkaGIGA

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Because you potted at 4:53 into fight

tranquil lava Nov 3, 2021, 5:20 PM

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calculated

boreal thicket Nov 3, 2021, 5:21 PM

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Make sure you maximize trinket usage. Also slightly overcapping on energy

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A bit more than preferred

tranquil lava Nov 3, 2021, 5:21 PM

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Part of that is holding DPS

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Our DPS is half mains and half alts

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So we had to hold on our side both intermissions

boreal thicket Nov 3, 2021, 5:22 PM

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cringe

tranquil lava Nov 3, 2021, 5:22 PM

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Okay, so maximize trinket usage, don't prioritize saving it for the boss?

reef iron Nov 3, 2021, 5:23 PM

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Your way of thinking is twisted

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If you want a better parse, you want to maximize your overall damage

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Not boss damage

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That means getting the most out of your kit

tranquil lava Nov 3, 2021, 5:23 PM

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That's fair

boreal thicket Nov 3, 2021, 5:23 PM

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Correct

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You pushing adds quicker to next phase will mean you’re doing more damage overall anyway

tranquil lava Nov 3, 2021, 5:24 PM

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okay, that makes sense

boreal thicket Nov 3, 2021, 5:24 PM

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But yeah.
Fix opener, maximize CDs and trinkets

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Also no need to prepot

grand agate Nov 3, 2021, 5:25 PM

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I was gonna ask, why prepot

boreal thicket Nov 3, 2021, 5:25 PM

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Potting in the first bit of set up seems wasteful

grand agate Nov 3, 2021, 5:25 PM

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If I may

tranquil lava Nov 3, 2021, 5:26 PM

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Yeah, I'll take all of the advice I can get

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This is my best pull by ~900 DPS, and I want to get more out of my character

boreal thicket Nov 3, 2021, 5:26 PM

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Because you’re setting up snd, bleeds, you can pot after rupturing which is starting a thicc envenom window with shiv as well

tranquil lava Nov 3, 2021, 5:28 PM

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Okay, so if that's the case..

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I should probably funnel damage into the adds to kill them ASAP, since I'm getting an execute bonus from my Shard of Bek too then

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I was setting up bleeds and then leaving them to be cleaved down by everyone else

boreal thicket Nov 3, 2021, 5:29 PM

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https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/C7LPGQXYR2FTDAwv#fight=1&type=casts&source=15&view=events

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Look at this opener from one of the cutest rogues

reef iron Nov 3, 2021, 5:31 PM

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The reason I sometimes vanish after the first Envenom instead of after Shiv is because Shiv crits which puts me at 2 combo points and I would be getting only 3 combo points from the Mutilate instead of 4, so I can get more value out of the MA Mutilates if I delay Vanish by 2 gcd's.

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But you always have to be careful when holding cds so you don't lose casts.

tranquil lava Nov 3, 2021, 5:32 PM

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Yeah

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I think I was holding a bit too long

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The intermission add was at 25% when Vanish/Trinket/Vendetta came off of CD

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So I should have used it all on the adds and continued my rotation from there

boreal thicket Nov 3, 2021, 5:36 PM

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If you were in the add for like 15 more seconds, yeah. If not, probably hold. There’s no certain number, there it’s just depending on the rest of your damage

reef iron Nov 3, 2021, 5:36 PM

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Well, you want to maximize value as well

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Yep

tranquil lava Nov 3, 2021, 5:36 PM

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Yeah, but I think I may have held a bit too long. I'll have to review that.

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This is all great stuff though - I appreciate you guys taking the time.

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One of these days I'll be all orange parses

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Between my two rogues I have 4 orange

reef iron Nov 3, 2021, 5:37 PM

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Once you can consistently get 95's without any externals, you'll be at the top level.

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But you have to keep your gear in mind as well whenever parsing and whatnot

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Because your gear is not exactly ideal yet.

tranquil lava Nov 3, 2021, 5:38 PM

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Yeah, and it never will be honestly

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I picked friends over CE

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I'm just trying to make the most of what I got

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And you see their logs - We're not getting super deep into Mythic with this roster

boreal thicket Nov 3, 2021, 5:39 PM

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Yes man

tranquil lava Nov 3, 2021, 5:40 PM

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I need to maximize a few things, and hopefully with a few lucky Tuesdays I'll be a bit closer to my cap

boreal thicket Nov 3, 2021, 5:40 PM

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Still, you can do fairly well even with some tankers. It’s a good time. All I do is try to do better than my best previous. Excited for what’s next can’t wait to see the future logs papi yejoice

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