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pastel wedgeBOT
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Please post the link from WCL in this channels for others to see.

surreal pagoda
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you are still running the pre 0.5 talents

vale halo
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between dances

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you likely want to use vanish-strike

lean oriole
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Yes good catch I updated my talents yesterday, didn't see it was updated

vale halo
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oh ye

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we play cloud cover now

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and the opener changes slightly

lean oriole
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Oh ok, I will need to check the new opener, thanks for the advice

vale halo
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you can do this one

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or if you want a shorter one

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talent wise

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you will just:
(optional) premediation -> utility node
(required) switch to cloud cover on your hero talents
(depends on boss) switch to rotten from finality (or potent powder)

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pure st = rotten

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cleave/aoe = potent powder

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gameplay wise

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you did send this blank dance after the initial cooldowns

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you would want to wait for secret to come up to combine cooldowns

lean oriole
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Ok you would recommand to always have secret tech available before pressing shadow dance? And use it with a macro?

vale halo
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the fight is a lot about timings

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you can in general

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use this website to see how people align cooldowns

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its a good start

lean oriole
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Maybe a silly question but at some point in the fight I feel like my energy is very low and I'm unable to cast builder without interruption. Is that normal? I have like 19% haste which seems to be enough.

vale halo
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but before doing so you rly need to:

  • have trinket on a seperate bind (and use it before casting dance, ideally with the spell before, the trinket is off gcd)
  • macro dance + secret, so you don't lose the last cast in dance
  • switch your flask to crit
  • practice your (new) opener
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one thing with cloud cover

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you will drop a cloud bomb when you use blades

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its evry visible on screen

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you can move out of it

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however

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it dissapears after 10 secs

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and you need to dip in or stand very close to the 10 sec mark

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to refresh your buff

lean oriole
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Okay so stay in it, or try to refresh it. How much time the buff is lasting outside of the cloud?

vale halo
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(the buff lasts 10 sec, but refreshes when you enter or stand in the zone)

lean oriole
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Ok ok thanks

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Concerning the 19% haste, do you think it's enough or should I try to have a bit more?

devout ember
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u wanna aim for around 700

lean oriole
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Ok thanks

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Thanks a lot for your help guys, I will try to practice this and change a few things as suggested.

vale halo
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19% is perfectly fine

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you want 700 with flasks/weapon oils

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a bit above is fine

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just not like 900

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thats too much

lean oriole
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Ok clear ๐Ÿ™‚

vale halo
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oh towards no energy

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thats normal

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you will be energy constraint outside of cooldowns

lean oriole
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Ok that's nice to hear, I was feeling I'm doing something wrong ๐Ÿ™‚

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I just checked right now and I have 642 haste, 674 with weapon oils. Probably a bit low for me knowing Shadow Dance's duration is extended by haste. This and maybe slower apm potentially deny me from casting as much spells as wanted during the dance. I will try to get a bit much.

devout ember
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@lean oriole use new gems if needed

lean oriole
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Ok I'm away from my computer but taking a bit of time to read the wowhead guide and I understand now why you recommend crit flask. They swapped the priority order... What the hell? I'm sitting on 70% of mastery.

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And I'm not even sure if I should already recraft my gears or if there is a chance this is something that will be reverted knowing the last patch's quality.

vale halo
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you don't need to recraft, just using crit flask is already rly good