#xorei. - Log Review

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hoary garnetBOT
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Please post the link from WCL in this channels for others to see.

flint epoch
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Im new to rogue, I feel like Im pressing the buttons right but my damage is just sad. If anyone can see what Im doing wrong thanks for the help!

queen epoch
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Opener looks mostly fine. Your big problem is that you are over sending dances between your flag windows, which massively ints them. You danced at 1:15, 15 seconds before flag was ready, causing you to have no dance charges ready for flag. You need to hold dance/symbols charges to ensure you have enough (1.5 dances, around 1.7/1.8 symbols minimum) when you cast flag. The usual rule of thumb for this is to stop dancing/etc 30 seconds out from flag, but can vary a bit depending on if you held dance charges earlier. If you don’t have these charges available you should be holding flag instead and waiting for them to be ready (and acknowledging you make a mistake over sending earlier).

Also missing a bunch of the smaller minmax things like the premed backstab, cold blood second sectec of blades, pooling conditions etc but none of that is really important compared to executing your cd windows correctly

flint epoch
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Ok, so I should stop doing dance/secret/symbols if I have 30 seconds or less on flag then send them like I do my opener? Am I safe to be sending evis instead in that window?

queen epoch
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Yes, hold those spells 30 seconds out and just repeat opener

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You can eviscerate and such while waiting for flag (as a more advanced condition, you can stop casting coup 20 seconds out, and all non rupture finishers 10 seconds out in order to pool damage for flag)

flint epoch
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Alright, so focus more on having my spenders flying while flag is going. Does logs track flag damage as the skill it was used with?

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Ex: when flag is going if I coup the extra damage counts as coup?

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(trying to understand why sometimes I have same casts as others but theirs is doing double the damage)

queen epoch
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No all the flag damage will just be under flag. The main thing flag gives you is a ton of mastery

flint epoch
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Ohhhh

queen epoch
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It will do damage based on combo points spent so maybe they are spending more within their flag windows

flint epoch
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so because they are sending them with more mastery it does more damage hints why they have more...

queen epoch
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yeah, and dance is around a 30-50% damage boost in cooldowns which is big when overlapped with blades and said flag mastery

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so not having it up is quite bad

flint epoch
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Ah, so thats another thing. I don't just want to have dance going when I go to do secret I want it up as much as I can while in flag

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Well, thank you for pointing that stuff out for me! Looks like I'm going to need to hit dummies for a while to get that all sorted.

queen epoch
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The first minute or so of the fight is great other than the small minmax stuff, just repeat that for the rest and you’re good

rain jetty
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for your CDs make sure that you send flag & rupture before entering a dance. You sent 2 ruptures inside your dances on plexus. Plus all that ryldd mentioned - you should always be able to send 2 dances in a row per flag/sblades. You only did that on pull

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flint epoch
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I will just set the rule of no SD if Flag is 30 seconds of CD and that should start to fix it till Im use to the CD's a bit more right?

rain jetty
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yes you can start with that for now and be more flexible once it's more familiar. You generally send 1 or 2 dances outside of flag between your 90s CDs

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1 is always safe, 2 can depend a bit. But never risk sending a second dance in between if you are not sure you will have enough for your flag window

flint epoch
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Yea, I think one problem is I've got a habit of SD > Symbol > sectec. meaning if I don't have sectec I don't SD. So breaking that and making sure I'm using SD for all of Flag will prob be the first fix

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Like 1. don't SD if Flag is 30 sec, 2. Try to keep SD up the entire window of flag

rain jetty
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flag lasts 24s total so you cannot cover all of that, but you can cover sblades with 2 dances

flint epoch
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And here I thought I was doing something during the 1.5min cd windows that was just destroying my damage. Just turns out I'm not doing windows correctly after opener...