#joshua808 - Log Review

1 messages · Page 1 of 1 (latest)

signal basaltBOT
#

Please post the link from WCL in this channels for others to see.

plucky shore
nimble tendon
#

you prolly could have used killing spree a bit more

#

71 killing spree casts and 90 dispatch casts

#

they actually should be like the same number

#

wowanalyzer is seeing a lot of moments where rtb is ready to be used but isnt

#

This build rolls a lot

#

if you dont have 4 buffs then you be rolling immediately, even in stealth

#

your total ambush casts vs sinister strike looks good

plucky shore
plucky shore
nimble tendon
#

yea i can't see ks cooldown

#

if ks is under 20s then you try not to vanish

#

unless you must vanish immediately to not lose AR

plucky shore
#

Got you, thanks

#

I know there is a lot of talks about HO being quite behind the KIR build, so I have been trying to transition to KiR. Sadly no logs but I’m actively trying to get better regardless, so I appreciate you pointing these out

#

For S3 that is

nimble tendon
#

yea next tier should be KIR unless they tune HO

#

it is unfortunately annoying to play

plucky shore
#

Yeah, I quite like the streamlined play of HO compared to all the conditions of KIR but what can you do

#

Spec is still fun

nimble tendon
#

you have to constantly see if you should be using SS or pistol shot based on combo points / broadside / opp stacks / unseen blade

#

well, at least optimally

plucky shore
#

Indeed, fingers crossed they tune HO 😂

nimble tendon
#

the meta KIR build also uses 1 point in fan the hammer, which can have some really low rng moments

plucky shore
#

It’s the same Spenders for both builds tho right, 5+ CP in stealth and 6+ CP out of stealth?

nimble tendon
#

that's the KIR rule

plucky shore
nimble tendon
#

the HO build is 6cp normally but 5cp if stealth, audacity, or opportunity is active

#

So like you dont ambush at 5cp

#

would rather just finish

plucky shore
#

Perfect, I’m pretty certain I have that down at least

nimble tendon
#

althought maybe if you were about to go into coup

#

it's fine to just ambush coup

plucky shore
#

And how is fate bound looking next tier for keys/raid?

#

Unfortunately I haven’t been able to keep up much at the moment so I’m slightly out the loop

nimble tendon
#

fatebound is really good on literal 1 target only

#

like 6% ahead of trickster

#

but 2 targets or more it immediately loses

#

so i think it will be used on like 2 raid bosses

plucky shore
#

Aaaah fair enough, appreciate the insight

#

Thanks for the support solo, appreciate the pointers. ❤️

nimble tendon
#

i think i see a moment here where you prioritized coup over killing spree

#

When ks has priority

plucky shore
nimble tendon
#

Outside of stealth, ks is the highest priority finisher

plucky shore
#

I always thought we coup over KS as KS pays into Coup proc

nimble tendon
#

yeh but ks is a cooldown so you lose cooldown reduction on it

plucky shore
#

And Coup, we spend like any other spender right?

nimble tendon
#

yeah mostly

#

for KIR, there is an optimization

#

you send Coup early if you would otherwise have to press sinister strike

plucky shore
#

I see, thank you

#

God I really hope they tune HO otherwise I have some work to do

nimble tendon
#

especially next tier when we send 2 coups in a row

#

you can like coup > blade flurry > coup, but not coup > ss > coup

plucky shore
nimble tendon
#

It's the tier set

#

lets you recast it

plucky shore
#

I see

#

Is there a timer on the recast? Have to cast within a certain time

nimble tendon
#

yea 5 seconds

plucky shore
#

Gotchu

#

So guessing like you say, spend build spend

nimble tendon
#

yeah if you dont have to press sinister strike when you will build CPs in between the coups

plucky shore
nimble tendon
#

but if you have to SS then you will just coup coup

plucky shore
#

Great thanks

#

So something like Coup>fth pros > Coup

#

Would that work?

nimble tendon
#

yeh

plucky shore
#

Perfecto

#

I’ll go ahead and work on this then. KS has always been my downfall so I really need to get the muscle memory working.

nimble tendon
#

at least next tier you wont die to it

plucky shore
#

Yeah very true, there’s always fear when pressing that button, probably why I don’t do it enough lmao

#

But thank you very much Solo, appreciate the support and guidance

#

Like I say I may have some more in the future, so I may be back, only if that’s ok with you

nimble tendon
#

ya

plucky shore
#

Awesome, take care my friend and have a good rest of your day!

nimble tendon
plucky shore
nimble tendon
#

sort of, HO will roll over 3 buffs, but KIR will keep them

plucky shore
nimble tendon
#

KIR:

Roll over 0-2 buffs
Keep 3-4 buffs unless they are all low duration like <10s
Roll once again after pressing KIR

There is an optimization if you KIR a natural 5 buff... but it's going away next tier and its kind of hard to explain

plucky shore
nimble tendon
plucky shore
nimble tendon
#

Well I guess it's not that bad actually

#

If you KIR a natural 5 buff, you dont roll immediately, you wait a bit

#

Until the buffs are <40s or so

plucky shore
nimble tendon
#

Otherwise you might just roll a 5 buff again and override your 60s buffs into 39s

plucky shore
#

Whats your thoughts on the RTB WA thats available, is it any good?

#

The one that indicates when to roll

nimble tendon
#

But next tier rolling a 5 buff twice in a row is extremely unlikely

#

I've never tested any weakaura that tells you how to roll

plucky shore
#

Alrighty, no worries

#

Thanks again, gonna start putting this into practice

nimble tendon
#

RTB stuff is changing next tier in general as we go back to the loaded dice talent

#

Wouldnt stress it much

plucky shore
#

Becoming more simple?

nimble tendon
#

(It will become easier)

plucky shore
#

Haha, ok thought it might