#legalopin - Log Review

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vivid elmBOT
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Please post the link from WCL in this channels for others to see.

simple fossil
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I have picked up that new HO/Trickster build recently and i'm having trouble with my energy. I feel like im always starving. I was playing KIR/Fatebound last season and was doing great (99.3 avg parse for my ilvl) and never had any energy starving problem.

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Here is an exemple of HO/Trickster. I see outlaws doing so much more but because of the lack of energy i just can't keep up

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I'm thinking about just going back to KIR/Fatebound even tho it sims lower

glossy stirrup
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while i cant comment on your rotation, I am still noob at it too. I can tell you what others have told me.

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We have to get used to adding Ks and coup and timing them, if we miss a ks then consider that being "behind" in your rotation and its already messed up.

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While we still focus bte in subterfuge windows, outside we have to prioritize ks and coup. No matter how aweful the situation is.

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Meanwhile with all this extra work, we can die from ks, get stunned by ks and even if all is perfect it will still be behind a normal class. Outlaw is still suffering from lack of dmg.

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however, you can always get ahead with ilvl and perfect rotations like any class. But our perfect rng is just a normal thing for other classes with little effort.

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Eventually you get used to ks and coup like we had to get used to BTE spam.

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But even then, for me learning ks and coup doesnt feel rewarding. Its more a forced by the devs and stupid to add to our rotation.

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There is quite a difference in AOE as trickster because it has AOE talents. But single target is okay to still play kir fatebound.

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All in all, outlaw is still a for fun spec, under-tuned as always.

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goodluck outlaw!

tacit quail
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low energy feeling could perhaps be from pressing pistol shot in stealth a lot

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ps is used to proc ambush when ambush is not available, so when you press it in stealth you are munching potential ambush casts

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ambush casts should be like over 2.5x that of sinister strike

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and yes trickster has an important rule of delaying vanish based on ks cooldown, if you are not at risk of losing adrenaline rush

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if ks cooldown is under 20s or so then you dont vanish if you can afford it

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scrolling through cauldron timeline there are a lot of lost KS casts i think

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for one thing, KS is an energy net positive button (esp. when supercharged) so losing casts is perhaps influential on feeling starved

but also just KS proccing 2 unseen blades on a 17s cooldown is the core reason to not lose casts

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i believe im seeing like

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at the end of some stealth windows you fire a raw BtE cause stealth just ended

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but KS is ready so KS should have had priority

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maybe thinking stealth was still active and you could fit a final bte

wise bobcat
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So with Coup or KS up and BtE off CD priority is Coup > KS > BtE ?

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I guess faq is clear and i've just been overthinking things, as always

simple fossil
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Thank you guys so much for the tips, I will keep working on it. I think my main mistake is not pressing KS enough and pressing pistol shot over ambush when it's avaible (since this is what im used to press when playing KIR/Fatebound). Also yea i'm always pressing BTE when avaible even when not in stealth so i'll have to train my brain to press KS instead