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You still used to old rotation. We don’t use vanish anymore. @valid veldt
You also have a lot of downtime for a couple seconds from time to time? Don’t know what you are doing there.
You missing “dry shiv” casts aka using Shiv while you have lingering darkness (the buff you get after deathmark expires) and Darkest Night.
Your kb window has wrong order: > shiv > kb but you did kb > shiv
Second full cds you have correct order aside from using vanish again. With current build there is no empowered garrote.
Next kb window same mistake as above.
I haven’t checked CP finishers. But you should aim to finish on 5 except for darkest night buffs ofc
FOK you prolly used for clear the witness. Technically you don’t need to do that anymore but aims do it aswell, it’s not a big loss nor a big gain
oooohhhhh
I used FOK for the other minions most of the time even if there's only 2 targets including the boss
Prolly the best to not show clear the witness proc at all 
Muscle memory automatically tells you to press FOK then
I can take a closer look tomorrow for more depth if you want. I am currently in bed
Thats good with me, I appreciate you taking the time
Yea there’s a bit of work to do aswell
Ill do this later
for sure
tyvm herp
I’ll do this later aswell.
One of the things is you are playing wrong talents
I appreciate it! I just cant figure out why my Big CD Windows are so low dps compared to similar players
I’ll check once I am up and alive later. 5am here
I took a Quick Look
Same 😂
Im at night shift at the hospital
Right off the bat you’re not casting an envenom before your deathmark
And you aren’t pressing a second shiv
And that alone is probably the entire difference honestly
I mean no potion either
Also hurts
You also got the wrong gem in your circlet
We don’t play skippers
So that’s like 2k secondaries, then another 3-4k from potion, and then no shiv during your biggest part of your burst
So opener would be:
Ambush > garrote > fan of knives > *rupture > mutilate/ambush > envenom and then fire death mark and so on?
Rupt
Yes
Makes sense. I forget the first envenom. I appreciate you going through it! Thanks!
Envenom to end on 5
And vanish is just when we have pandemic window?
Alright perfect!
Well with your talents right now vanish to refresh improved garrote and get master assassin in deathmark
But yeah once you fix the talents, no more vanish
- Wrong talents; we dont play Improved Garrote and Master Assassin anymore (Check WoWhead for Talents, whispyr has a great article)
- Opener can be improved, go for: Ambush, Garrote, Mutilate, Rupture, Mutilate, Envenom (Your current Rotation has one FOK in there which is not needed and used a global)
- First DM window; Currently you cast DM, KB, Mutilate, Shiv. Dont do that! Go with: DM, Shiv, KB, then continue to mutilate/Envenom and use second Shiv once you hit 8 Seconds of KB left. **you are missing your dmg pot
** you use it 13 seconds after casting DM
resulting in a huge dps loss aswell - First KB window after DM; Again wrong order (If possible you always try to go with envenom buff into this): Currently you did: KB, Mutilate, Envenom and then Shiv, that means you wasted already 3 (almost 4) seconds of KB without Shiv buff active (very bad!). Proceed as before: Shiv > KB > Spent points for envenom finishers and use second shiv once 8 seconds of KB are left.
- Second DM window; You are missing Envenom buff to go into your second full cooldown set (this is a huge dmg loss) and again wrong order; Try to stick to DM > Shiv > KB > Finishers > Refresh Shiv once 8 seconds left (Current one here looks like the others mentioned.
- At 2:56 You attempted to dry shiv (using shiv in lingering darkness while Darkest Night (the guaranteed crit to apply mark again) is up or about to be). Good idea, sadly too late! You do not have Lingering Darkness buff anymore (The buff comes after DM expires for 30 seconds).
- Second KB Window after DM: Technically correct that you wanted to use it, sadly you are missing the second shiv at all to use one at the beginning of KB and then you get Sorting on the boss resulting in a lost Cooldown here. Unlucky
- Right after that you are using Shiv without any buff, dont do that! Keep Shiv always for either Full CD Window, KB window or dry shiv.
- Due to this you are kinda forced to delay cooldowns (wont matter in this fight as the boss dies in the next 30 seconds after you used DM) potentially losing a dry shiv here due to this.
- Third DM window: Wrong order again.
- For some reason (idk why) you arent playing correct with wrong/old talents either. You are supposed to vanish > garrote. Both vanishes resulted in not going that

In General you are also trying to always finish on 7 Combo points, even out of Darkest Night Window, thats wasted resources!
Try to finish on 5 (to consume a stack of Deathstalkers Mark) and finish on 7 for Darkest Night (the guaranteed crit to apply mark again)
KB = Kingsbane
DM = Deathmark
FOK = Fan of Knives
Man, I'm really thankful for this! Yhea I've already corrected the talents, that log is a bit outdated.
Crazy how much more damage I could be doing, Ill make sure to correct all those mistakes
I've really "freestyled" assassination. Started playing it this season and didnt really research/study the correct opener and all that
anyways, tyvm mr herp
- Talents good
- Opener good aswell
- First DM window: Correct order. Dont touch Vanish, since we do not play improved garrote/master assassin anymore. Looks like you are missing a finisher in the first DM/KB Window due to using vanish/garrote instead of another envenom.
- Missing dry shiv after DM
- First KB window after DM: wrong order. Use shiv first then KB. Losing 2 seconds of buffed KB here. Also missing a finisher here due to wrong order.
- Second DM window: Correct order. Dont touch Vanish, since we do not play improved garrote/master assassin anymore. Looks like you are missing a finisher in the first DM/KB Window due to using vanish/garrote instead of another envenom.
- Missing dry shiv after DM
- Second KB window after DM: wrong order. Use shiv first then KB. Losing 1 seconds of buffed KB here. lso missing a finisher here due to wrong order.
- Did you dmg stop after that? Wipe got called i guess?
You also try to finish on 7 sometimes even tho 5 are enough, keep an eye out for that
always better to check logs what other rogues do, specially for mythic bosses regarding cooldowns

Thank you for analyzing logs again you're the best
If I land on 5 should I still mutilate once more for the 7? What instances would I try to go for the 7? Ideally always?
only go for 7 if you have Darkest Night proc avail
Just DN proc? So not necessarily just dry shiv?
in general you always want to get max cp if DN is avail
well obviously you have to

Ooohhhh okay
Thank you very much
Y'all are awesome
I tried to clean up my CP spending, still trying to not spend at 7 when not needed
and getting my cooldown sequence correct
you played ttk
that kinda sucks for an aoe fight
your second shiv is late
you went kb -> shiv later on
this is all sorts of weird
yhea im weird
i just cant press the right shit at the right time
oh yhea i remeber fucking this burst window up HARD and hurting inside
sent a rupture before KB 
yhea, realised when i went to sprocket i had TTK and not AP
dude i just need to play more sin in raids
ill go do my 5th heroic clear
practice more
would rly appreciate any help with this if possible, looking to see what i can improve further than what wowanalyzer is giving me https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/rn8wFjHQJypfv9Z7?fight=24&type=damage-done