#thatunfluffypanda - Log Review

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copper wrenBOT
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Please post the link from WCL in this channels for others to see.

tidal hill
lethal onyx
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Using CDs when you won’t be doing any damage looks like a big problem

tidal hill
orchid spindle
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For one, you use your cds on pull instead of waiting. If you hold cds for ~15 s into the fight, your peak burst will be timed with the first pyrotechnic spawns

tidal hill
tidal hill
orchid spindle
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Another reason some hold is because some guilds move the boss on pull, which makes completing the transmitter window inconsistent

tidal hill
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i've generally been popping transmitter on pull, better after all CD's are popped? i.e put in place of HoC?

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my raid leader recommended hekili to try to get a muscle memory for some of the CD usage/preventing caps. Quick sim says I should be ~1.7, on dummie I was around 1.4/1.5

orchid spindle
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Don’t use it with blades, using it manually is fine I prefer macroing it to flag

tidal hill
orchid spindle
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Specifically transmitter yes

tidal hill
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why not use it with blades?

orchid spindle
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You need both sec techs to be inside the transmitter window

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You won’t have time to complete the task if you macro it to blades

tidal hill
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that makes sense

orchid spindle
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If you macro it to flag, you have two-three gcds to complete the task

tidal hill
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going through a lot of logs I see people barely on the adds

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feel like I need to cleave off boss more or is that a mistake?

orchid spindle
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You don’t generally target swap to adds, just stand near them and cleave them

lethal onyx
orchid spindle
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Unless an add needs to die very badly stay on boss and stand in melee range of adds

tidal hill
tidal hill
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our burst/CD window, lasts ~16 seconds total?

orchid spindle
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It’s fine to do that if they really need to die but it’s a damage loss to some degree

tidal hill
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so I want to make sure if I'm popping my CD's I have 16 seconds of pure action on my target yea?

orchid spindle
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Yeah definitely

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You can save evasion for amplification so you don’t need to leave melee range of the boss

tidal hill
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sheesh

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that seems a good amount of uptime

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would you use it on any specific orders of amps or just get it on CD and then use it when its up next?

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though I guess if saving CD's for adds use it around that time

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dumb question, saving CD's for first set of adds still equals blowing everything on the boss and relying on nimble flurry cleave to the adds right?

orchid spindle
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Yes

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Just save evasion for when you’re in cds and he casts it

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You should also save cold blood for the second secret technique

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Instead of the first in blades

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You’ll have more stacks of flagellation, flawless form, and winning streak

tidal hill
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yea, I just unmacro'd CB/Sectech

orchid spindle
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You can also backstab as the first builder in dance for more stacks of danse macabre, but it’s only a small improvement

tidal hill
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been seeing some of that

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do we play around coup at all or just let it happen and dont care?

orchid spindle
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Generally you just make sure you only coup while fazed is up

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For flawless form stacks

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Another thing is that between your first two blades, you chain dances together and then during blades, you only dance once

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This is probably the biggest mistake you make

tidal hill
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so better uptime on dance?

orchid spindle
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During blades your dances need to be back to back

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So you want to use flagellation while you have one charge of dance and <35 s on the next charge

tidal hill
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we use verse flask right?

orchid spindle
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And then 1 charge of symbols and <13 s on the next charge

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Generally alchemical chaos

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Unless you’re very low on vers or another stat

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You can sim it I forgot how though

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But not having two dances in blades is a massive damage loss

tidal hill
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thats why I ask, sim just showed chaos was used over verse where I thought the wowhead guide says to use verse

orchid spindle
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Alchemical chaos is usually better in raid

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Unless you have a lot of the other stats

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And relatively little vers

tidal hill
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my 0 buff current sim

orchid spindle
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Your mastery is low

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Mastery flask might be better, again figure out how to sim it though and do what that says

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Also drop shadow focus for improved shuriken storm

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For every fight but sprocketmonger

tidal hill
orchid spindle
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Ok cool

tidal hill
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im surprised my mastery is low with the gear I have a bit, will definitely need to sim those flasks

orchid spindle
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I’d run some droptimizer and see what is good for you

tidal hill
orchid spindle
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Sim the PvP vers/mast gear too

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I’m using 3 PvP pieces

tidal hill
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sheesh

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hard to farm?

orchid spindle
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For me lol

tidal hill
orchid spindle
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I think you can pick up crates or something in war mode

tidal hill
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was it the honor pieces or conquest?

orchid spindle
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The worst part is the honor for gems

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It’s all conquest champ track gear

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The hands and neck are great stats

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And the bracer lets you put a socket on it

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It costs 3 blood stones and 5k honor per socket

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I just bought the blood stones on the ah

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Good luck :)

tidal hill
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quick last question, when do you generally refresh rupture?

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sometimes I see refresh though its ~20 seconds

orchid spindle
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<8.6 s

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Sometimes sooner if it’s gonna fall off during dance because you both want it to always be active and not refresh it during dance

tidal hill
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you weren't kidding on the flask use, verse/chaos ~1.716, mastery ~1.726

orchid spindle
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Sim yourself buffed because you’ll be buffed in raid

tidal hill
orchid spindle
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who's friend?

orchid spindle
tidal hill
orchid spindle
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oh nice!

tidal hill
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trying to figure out where you got the CP for 19 more eviscerates lol

tidal hill
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@deep sluice

mild cosmos
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already looking at your opener and it's about a month out of date

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probably like a 2% difference though all up

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tl;dr dont need to do the vanish evis anymore

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just start full sending after rupture

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also demacro your sectech with coldblood

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yep so the reason why your damage sucked is because your 2nd flag go did sweet fuck all damage

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likely because you oversent dances beforehand

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this is not good

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tidal hill
mild cosmos
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this is also really really bad

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3rd go was better but you dont want to start off like this

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tidal hill
mild cosmos
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naked flag into sdance sectech is not the play

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but at least you got full use of it

tidal hill
mild cosmos
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no flag stacks with your sectech

tidal hill
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ahhhh

mild cosmos
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dont waste supercharge points on rupture

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tidal hill
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yea, some of the others helped point that out, like, only always sectech with supercharge and flag right

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the whole CD's need to always align

mild cosmos
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well yes and no

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you will need to send a naked symbols + sectech ONCE a fight

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but yeah for the most part it's

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flag -> finisher -> dance -> backstab -> sectech

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or dance -> backstab -> sectech

mild cosmos
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it's damage neutral to do it or not do it

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so you may as well just not do it

tidal hill
mild cosmos
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nfi - send whenever you want to

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you can still do it on the opener

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if you really want to

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i dont

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because i like full sending

tidal hill
mild cosmos
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no fucking idea

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use it for utility

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as originally intended

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in the pins

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!guide

copper wrenBOT
mild cosmos
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check the wowhead guide

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fuu has updated it

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with graphics

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and reasoning behind every single global

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for the first 14 seconds or something

tidal hill
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is there any good direction on managing adds/cds? i.e just hard cleave forever?

mild cosmos
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this is stealthis cooldowns

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check out lorrgs as well

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most of them assignish to this

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i think i edited this slightly